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Results for 2013-07-08

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08:03 csharp_ so during the vandelay upload step, to which location is the file uploaded?  I am expecting it to be in the location specified in <open-ils.vandelay><importer> in opensrf.xml, but I don't see it there
08:04 csharp_ also not in /tmp on either of the brick heads on my test server
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08:36 berick csharp_: the file is deleted after all the records are queued
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08:50 csharp berick: I guess I'm trying to see where in the process things are.  I'm testing whether the ~250MB file I'm uploading is actually moving since I'm just seeing "Uploading..." on the interface.  Just looking for a way to monitor progress
08:51 berick ah, gotcha
08:52 berick in that case, yes, you should see a file slowing growing in size in the directory configured under <importer>
08:52 berick s/slowing/slowly/
15:01 kmlussier csharp: My understanding is that our consortia limit the size of their uploads, but I can't remember what limit they used.
15:01 csharp it's possible that my staff client auth session timed out while it was running too
15:01 csharp ah - makes sense
15:02 kmlussier I don't think anyone did a test to see how large the files could get. But I can check.
15:02 csharp thanks
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16:10 Dyrcona MARC::CharSet just loves them to death!
16:13 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I'll be emailing you some examples a bit later, possibly tomorrow.
16:13 gmcharlt Dyrcona++
16:13 rfrasur Hah!  Have been wanting to test some Korean records.  How many characters are in the vietnamese charset?
16:14 Dyrcona Phép lạ của sự tỉnh thức.
16:15 Dyrcona That's what seems to be causing the problem.
16:15 rfrasur oh...that's not what I was expecting.

Results for 2013-07-05

14:24 csharp so is vandelay the best method of auth record import?
14:24 csharp authority record updates
14:24 Dyrcona csharp: In my opinion, no it isn't.
14:24 csharp right now I'm just testing whether import works for us at all with the files I have in hand
14:25 csharp not testing matching, etc. yet
14:25 csharp Dyrcona: what would you recommend?  (I was just looking at your BSLW tools)
14:25 Dyrcona csharp: I was going to say, that I write my own tools for those sorts of things.
14:25 csharp the auth recs we have are from BSLW, incidentally
14:26 * Dyrcona shoots at stray commas.
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14:27 Dyrcona The BSLWimport.pl is designed for a rather specific work flow based on how Backstage puts files on their FTP server.
14:28 Dyrcona It could be adapted, but it assumes the files are zipped, etc.
14:29 Dyrcona csharp: Don't let me stop from testing if Vandelay will work for you. It is certainly worth your time to find out.
14:30 Dyrcona There oughta be a "you" in there somewhere.
14:46 csharp thanks
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Results for 2013-07-03

09:43 csharp so when I run the modular version for ubuntu-precise (see http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/​user/csharp/ubuntu-per-distro-makefile ) and cpan installation craps out on SOAP::Lite (IIRC)
09:44 csharp the deb lists between the modular version and the current Makefile.install are identical, but the modular version installs all debs first
09:45 rfrasur (that's what I thought...see you this afternoon :p)
09:45 csharp the CPAN list for the modular version (based on berick's wheezy target) includes Safe, which is not in the current Makefile.install
09:45 csharp but those are the only differences I see
09:45 csharp Ubuntu 10.04 worked fine in my test
09:51 berick csharp: odd, maybe the debs are installing a version of something some other cpan module doesn't like.
09:51 berick that when done in reverse, cpan never has a chance to complain
09:52 berick because it just installs its own dependencies, finding none already there
12:08 kmlussier Dyrcona: Not back yet. Still in Indiana.
12:09 rfrasur oooo...where?
12:09 jrshaw Putty it is. So I can get to the Ubuntu VM by talking from my Windows machine through PuTTy as long as I don't have to cross a firewall?
12:11 kmlussier Dyrcona: Thanks! I may try to resume some testing over the next couple days.
12:11 jrshaw PuTTy - a telnet client. This takes me back a couple of decades...
12:12 kmlussier rfrasur: Mishawaka. At the in-laws house.
12:13 rfrasur kmlussier:Excellent!  Well...other than the "in Indiana" (although...welcome) and the "in-laws" part

Results for 2013-07-01

07:47 dbs paxed: a major part of the value of review & sign-off is reproducing the before / after behaviour in a separate environment, as well as ensuring nothing else breaks unexpectedly as a result. so, not really :/
07:48 * dbs is enjoying Canada Day, apparently
07:51 paxed dbs: disheartening.
07:53 dbs paxed: it's a time vs. quality thing. We keep on seeing what happens when we push commits that "look good" without actually testing them.
07:53 dbs Or testing them in a very limited way. And testing in production, really, really sucks for the community.
07:54 csharp bshum: thanks!
07:57 csharp dbs: happy Canada Day!
07:58 csharp not a holiday I take it? ;-)
08:01 csharp dbs: ah - I see ;-)
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08:03 jcamins dbs: have you looked at things like gerritt?
08:06 dbs jcamins: it's more about testing & reproducing UI behaviour (selenium etc) than code review tools
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08:08 jcamins dbs: ah. We have both problems with Koha.
08:10 dbs for example, paxed has a patch that affects 8 or so different dialogues in the staff client. testing that means setting up a clean testing environment, reproducing the problem conditions (possibily requiring setup of special data to provoke the problem), setting up the test env + patch, reproducing the corrected scenarios... and all of that gives us no guarantee that other scenarios haven't been negatively affected by the patch
08:10 dbs jcamins: I'm not saying gerritt or the like wouldn't be helpful, just a different problem :)
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18:14 konr_revmob Can I test whether, say, the infinite scroll functionality works in my website using evergreen, or its not the appropriate tool?
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Results for 2013-06-28

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08:25 csharp okay - I'm back to troubleshooting my circ rule issue - the problem is that we have a rule based on a circ modifier called 'dvd' assigned to dvd items.  When I use the find_circ_matrix_matchpoint test on an item, patron, and location on our production server, the correct rule matches.  When I do the same test on our test server, it picks a different rule.
08:25 csharp The only thing I've changed is linking a circulation limit set
08:26 csharp the rule it selects on our test server is based on the item's marc type
08:27 pastebot "csharp" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "circ policy matching descrepancy" (16 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/34
08:27 csharp as you'll see in the paste, rule 159 no longer matches
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08:30 Dyrcona @quote random
08:30 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Quote #21: "< Dyrcona> Writing software is more fun than working." (added by csharp at 09:29 AM, November 29, 2011)
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08:37 csharp created CSVs of a dump of circulation policies on test and production and diffed them - no difference
08:39 csharp btw - test image is from 6/26, so no substantial differences between the datasets
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08:47 Dyrcona csharp: I've not ever seen the behavior you described in my environment. If I check something out in production and in development, I get the same matchpoint.
09:26 csharp I'm using the Default weightset, which has worked fine for us until now
09:28 * bshum checks to see what that is :)
09:33 pastebot "csharp" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "default weightset" (7 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/35
09:36 bshum csharp: Can you paste the rules 139 and 159 from your test server?
09:36 bshum Curious to see what the rows look like.
09:37 pastebot "csharp" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "more details on circ limit set setup" (43 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/36
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09:38 csharp I'll paste 139 too
09:38 pastebot "csharp" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "circ matrix matchpoint 139" (4 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/37
09:39 bshum What's the copy location of the item you're testing?
09:39 bshum Just the first thing that jumped out to me looking at rule 159
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09:39 bshum Hopefully 7404
09:39 csharp we don't use copy locations in our rules since copy locations are managed at the library level
09:40 csharp that would multiply our number of rules exponentially
09:40 bshum But 7404 is in the column for "copy_location" in the paste.
10:03 bshum Just thinking aloud, but it seems bad to allow copy location to be set for a specific library if they're also creating consortium level rules (or rules in general that affect greater than just them).
10:03 csharp Indiana's still using script-based circ too, I think
10:04 * csharp agrees
10:04 bshum Since we don't let end users create policy, I don't think we've ever tested restricting the level of rules they can create.
10:04 rfrasur csharp: yes...I think we are (because it breaks from time to time)
10:04 bshum Or if that's possibly restricted by permission.
10:12 rfrasur So, explain to me while I'm editing a million call #s - why not to use the "circ as type" attribute?
10:17 rfrasur hmm, our circ policies are based on circ modifiers
10:17 rfrasur meh
10:17 jeff_ But those incorrect bibs should still be fixed -- because the copy-level override for circulate as type will do nothing to fix the other issues caused by the incorrect MARC data -- mostly with searching and display in the catalog.
10:17 dbs paxed's fixes in bug 1195334 looks like it's probably golden, but because we lack any sort of UI test automation to reproduce the problems before the patch and show that it's fixed after the patch, I'm reluctant to wade into applying & testing it myself
10:17 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1195334 in Evergreen "Some data URIs don't define character set" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195334
10:18 dbs and without testing, I'm not going to commit anything. Which is a major part of our QA problem in a nutshell, methinks. (surprise, broken record, whatever)
10:22 mrpeters is there any way to test a LONG (14 day) grace period without checking out an item and waiting 2 weeks?  --- using in-db circ
10:24 mrpeters i suppose i could check out an item for 1 day and see if it accrues fines over the weekend...
10:26 bshum mrpeters: I haven't tried it recently, but I think you could edit the circulation entry to be in the past, like 10 days past due or whatnot.
10:26 Dyrcona mrpeters: Check it out and change the due date to the past?
10:26 bshum mrpeters: Through the DB
11:25 jeff_ k.
11:25 jeff_ i forget that reports have debug output now. :-)
11:25 mrpeters ya itsnice
11:26 * rfrasur is running a test report (obviously not the same one...but similar)
11:26 rfrasur so...in a couple hours....
11:28 mrpeters http://pastie.org/private/af01zwkuj3hikoucyobttg
11:30 rfrasur (is it just me or are Indiana reports taking longer and longer and longer to generate?)
11:33 mrpeters big database....
11:38 mrpeters they all look like normal circs.....except the "migrated" ones have no due date
11:39 mrpeters http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5477/auvn.png
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11:39 jeff_ mrpeters: er, that contains patron data.
11:39 jeff_ unless those are test users.
11:40 mrpeters yeah, guess i better obscure that
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11:41 mrpeters http://imageshack.us/a/img834/102/hj51.png
13:57 * rfrasur is def not THAT cool
13:58 bshum jeff_: I have multiple accounts to LP but only get notifications to one as well.  I don't think it sends to more than one.
13:58 bshum Since you're cool and have gapps though, you could probably setup a filter to find LP emails and forward them on and only those.
14:05 hopkinsju jeffdavis: I added CASCADE to the upgrade script and it completed successfully. It took quite a while but I'm finally done upgrading this test DB to 2.4. OPAC searching is being weird though...
14:05 hopkinsju Searching takes forever and so far I'm seeing queries that should return results not returning any results on the first try, but oddly returning them on the second attempt.
14:05 rfrasur Hah!  One of those two staff members is already GOING to GenCon (no money from lib needed)
14:06 hopkinsju I need to have a better way to test that the db upgrades *really* worked well.
14:07 bshum hopkinsju: Returning on the second attempt sounds like the query ran long and didn't finish till later.   And it being cached.
14:07 hopkinsju bshum: Makes sense
14:07 Dyrcona hopkinsju: You probably have to reingest.
14:27 dbs GIN takes more space, more time to build, but is faster
14:27 bshum faster++
14:27 * csharp peruses http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.​1/static/textsearch-indexes.html
14:27 jeffdavis metabib_title_field_entry_index_vector_idx is a GIN index on our upgraded 2.4 test db
14:27 dbs and will be required if oleg / alex gets their super-fast text search patches in
14:27 rfrasur faster++
14:27 * Dyrcona has had some recent experience with faster in a different context.
16:09 * bshum ponders how safe it is to make a copy of m_* migration schemas and then drop them from production DBs.
16:09 rfrasur you live dangerously, remember?
16:10 * rfrasur does payroll and prepares to be entertained by bshum living dangerously.
16:10 bshum rfrasur: You've got a point.  And hey that's what test databases are for right?  :D
16:11 rfrasur bshum: that's exactly right.
16:11 * rfrasur cues music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcL0mjMjw
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Results for 2013-06-27

09:02 rfrasur okay, I got it going.  thank you
09:03 rfrasur okay, thanks sir.  see ya later.
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09:27 * dbs noticed, while testing the upgrade path for the catapostrophe fix from 2.3 - 2.4, that the 2.3-2.4.0 upgrade script will bomb out for anyone who recently installed 2.3 due to having already applied upgrade 0788. I suppose we should move that into its own transaction in the upgrade script.
09:29 dbs huh, or is that because I installed from rel_2_3 and not a packaged version which might get a different value in 002.schema.config.sql?
09:29 * dbs looks
09:31 dbs Nope, that's in the packaged 2.3.8 tarball
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09:32 dbs and 2.3.7
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09:36 eeevil yeah ... I'll pull 788 into its own chunk. soon
09:36 paxed bah. character encoding problems in javascript.
13:17 hopkinsju dbs: gotta run an errand, but will do!
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13:52 csharp circ policy changes (in-db) are immediate, right?  no need for autogen/opensrf restart?
13:52 * csharp has apparently borked circ on his test server
13:53 csharp same dataset, same ruleset on prod/test, same item, same patron, same, location, different rules are chosen
13:54 csharp test is picking the default rule, prod selects the correct rule
13:54 csharp "default rule" = id 1
13:54 csharp @monologue
13:54 pinesol_green csharp: Your current monologue is at least 6 lines long.
13:56 mcooper csharp: believe they are immediate … delete all rules and circs can't happen, w/o having to restart anything (if I recall correctly) ...
13:56 csharp ok
18:41 jeffdavis backups++
18:41 jeffdavis @karma backups
18:41 pinesol_green jeffdavis: Karma for "backups" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
18:41 Dyrcona Anyway, now I have a chance to test a C version of xpath.
18:42 rfrasur backups needs more karma
18:42 Dyrcona backups++
18:42 Dyrcona backups times elebenty!

Results for 2013-06-26

11:34 eeevil dbs: any thoughts on the end of bug 1187433?
11:34 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1187433 in Evergreen "apostrophe search issues in 2.4" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187433
11:34 rfrasur paxed++
11:40 dbs eeevil: Still need to test it, just to be sure
11:40 dbs but looks good
11:41 dbs in the mean time, if any QP-knowledgeable folks would care to figure out why a search for "big : bad : groovy" results in 6 "text-search ':*' contains no lexemes" errors, that would be teh awesome :)
11:41 rfrasur I just have to say, y'all are the sanest, least anger/anxiety/frustration-producing group of people that I deal with (excepting my family).  It may be a very low bar, but thanks anyways.
11:42 eeevil dbs: that's a fair trade ... I'll look
11:45 dbs eeevil: I spent some time trying to protect empty queries from reaching QP in Search/Biblio.pm, but realized that testing with srfsh with queries like "" or ":*" weren't representative of what actually gets passed in from TPAC (" pref_ou(103)" and the like appended to the end)
11:45 dbs So I think ultimately QP is the answer :/
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11:47 eeevil yeah ... I think I see where it's coming from. I'm trying to think of a reason why we would want to allow a bare ":" as an atom
11:47 kmlussier Heads up. The web team meeting will be starting here in 13 minutes.
11:48 dbs eeevil: in phrase-searches too?
11:49 dbs (in the real world, most of the bare " : " come from copying/pasting a title into a search box)
11:49 eeevil dbs: are the :s in "value" for you? (I'm sure you have this documented on a bug ... /me goes to look)
11:50 dbs eeevil: no, there's no bug, I was researching / bashing my head yesterday
11:51 dbs eeevil: and yes, the :s are in "value"
11:53 * dbs recreates a local concerto test database - see "Critical entertainments : music old and new" as an example
11:54 dbs "La canzone italiana del Novecento" includes 2 " : " segments in its title
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12:01 bshum kmlussier: Hmm, time?  :)
12:01 * bshum doesn't know who else is even here...
12:19 Rogan_ sounds good
12:19 bshum +1
12:19 moodaepo kmlussier: I was thinking the same. +1
12:20 kmlussier #info moodaepo to continue working on test site
12:20 kmlussier Though I think bshum has been working on this one too.
12:20 kmlussier Who wants to give an update?
12:20 bshum I'm multi-tasking :)
12:20 moodaepo bshum has taken on doing a test site [ http://evergreener.net/ ] ..I've just been providing him with support right now. We did discuss plans on moving forward and will be emailing it to the list soon for feedback.
12:20 moodaepo bshum++
12:21 kmlussier It's pretty!
12:21 bshum The fun thing we learned while working on the wordpress site prototype is dealing with non-javascript-enabled browsers.
12:21 bshum There are lots of pretty themes, but not all of them function well without javascript-enabled.
12:23 moodaepo or even one hand :)
12:23 kmlussier moodaepo++
12:23 bshum I'd volunteer, but my email isn't trustworthy right now.
12:24 kmlussier #action moodaepo to e-mail link to test site to the list for feedback.
12:24 kmlussier moodaepo: That's the general list, right?
12:24 Rogan_ I would say yes.
12:24 moodaepo kmlussier: Yup
12:25 kmlussier Anything else before we move on to the next action item?
13:28 rfrasur rock on
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13:39 DPearl Event/trigger question.  I have created a clone of the hold available email event (consortium-level) for a library that wants to include a special message in the email. When testing, the first try got the library's handler; the second try got the consortium handler. I can see why this might have happened, but it seems to me to be incorrect behavior (going up a level). Or is this desirable?
13:42 bshum DPearl: So, in practice, you cannot have both a consortium level hold available and also a library specific one.
13:42 bshum Because the event will fire off both.
13:42 bshum or at least, that's been my experience.
16:58 hopkinsju bshum: Did that answer your questoin? Looks like it's in the evergreen schema.
16:58 bshum hopkinsju: Yes, that helps.  Thanks.
17:05 pastebot "hopkinsju" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "Ok, now this is weird..." (58 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/31
17:07 gmcharlt Dyrcona: did you happen to make the binary MARC record available? I'm lhappy to add test cases for MARC::Charset
17:08 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I didn't because I was able to get mostly what I needed from yaz-marcdump, plus I've been having fun with other things today.
17:08 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I think this file is a mix of records in latin 1 and marc 8.
17:08 gmcharlt I'd appreciate having it if you get a spare moment
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17:20 bshum dbs: Seems to me that tsvector_concat is something we can safely drop away if it's no longer in the code base.  Like so many other functions that get stuck lying around.
17:21 hopkinsju gmcharlt: *dum dum duuuuum* "$user",public
17:21 gmcharlt hopkinsju: k, thought so -- when your test DB finishes resyncing, I suggest running the following before trying the (unmodified) upgrade script:
17:21 gmcharlt ALTER DATABASE evergreen SET search_path TO evergreen, public, pg_catalog;
17:22 bshum gmcharlt++
17:22 hopkinsju gmcharlt: Thank you, I will try that.
17:22 hopkinsju Gonna have to let this go and check back later though. Gotta get my daughter to karate.
20:26 rfrasur so they (whoever they are) may not understand what all that means, but can get a broad idea and have a little higher comfort level in talking w/ people re: more technical stuff.
20:26 * rfrasur saw that with the feed as well.
20:26 rfrasur I was all excited that 2015 was going to be in Grand Rapids...until it was 2009 or 10
20:26 bshum Heh
20:28 bshum rfrasur, I'm going to be modifying the wordpress prototype for a moment.  Want to test out something with a different theme.
20:28 rfrasur I am legitimately excited about the direction the website is going, btw.  I think it'll be much more accessible.
20:28 rfrasur (and not in an ADA sort of way, but maybe that, too)
20:28 rfrasur okie

Results for 2013-06-25

08:54 csharp circ_policies--
08:59 Dyrcona csharp: We think we're successfully limiting with limit sets.
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09:02 csharp Dyrcona: thanks - looks like my first problem is that the circ policy I'm expecting to be chosen isn't being chose
09:02 csharp n
09:03 csharp so now I'm playing with weights, which is pretty complex
09:04 * csharp is *so* glad we have find_circ_matrix_matchpoint() to test with
09:04 tsbere csharp: Between poking at our mail server I can probably answer questions about some of that for ya
09:05 tsbere csharp: For note, easy way to limit by circ mod: Create a circ matrix line that matches the circ modifier and as little else as possible with no circulate flag or rules. Attach limits to *that* rule with fallthrough flag checked.
09:08 csharp tsbere: thanks for that tip
09:41 tsbere Then I would assume I was wrong. ;)
09:41 csharp heh
09:44 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Only attempt to map copies once per hold - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fceea3d>
09:44 paxed haha. testing some improvements for bug 1156545 - i guess a bill for $1234567.80 is a bit too much: ERROR:  numeric field overflow
09:44 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1156545 in Evergreen "Currency symbol and format should not be in po-file translatable texts" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156545
09:46 senator we have lots of fields defined as numeric(6,2), although depending on the currency that could be too limiting i suppose
09:46 paxed it's unlikely the patron bill would hit that much.
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14:16 jeffdavis so, regarding bug 1187433 ...
14:16 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1187433 in Evergreen "apostrophe search issues in 2.4" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187433
14:16 jeffdavis We're doing a 2.2->2.4 upgrade, so my understanding is I just need to integrate this commit into our db upgrade stuff: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b64d6e
14:17 jeffdavis Assuming that's correct, I can try it out in a test environment tomorrow.
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15:06 jeffdavis It looked to me like the necessary changes from the other commits are in the upgrade script, but it's a long ticket and I get a little paranoid before major version upgrades. ;)
15:08 jeffdavis s/ticket/bug/
15:09 bshum It's healthy to be mindful of potential pitfalls.
15:24 jrshaw Oh the fun. Back to the 2.4 client Install... Went to lunch. The system hibernated. Powered up. corrupted system image. discarded the hiber-image and did a clean reboot. Full functionality has been restored. I can repeatedly start the Client and it works. Now to find a working 2.4 test server that works...
15:25 jrshaw demo.ils.edoceo.com produces a "There was an error testing the hostname." error
15:26 csharp jrshaw: so are your complaints purely about getting the client up and running, or are you installing a server too?
15:28 jrshaw I'm taking this one step at a time. I've decided to work on Clint configuration since that would be a simpler and shorter process. just need to know how to interface the client to the test server.
15:28 kmlussier jrshaw: demo.ils.edoceo.com is working for me. You may need to add a SSL Exception for the server.
15:29 kmlussier Or, I should say, it would work if I had the right staff client version.
15:30 jrshaw So you bumped into that problem (wrong client version) too...

Results for 2013-06-24

11:58 rfrasur they cancelled the hold to transet the material to another library?
11:58 rfrasur s/transet/transit
11:58 phasefx with those timestamps you might be able to search actual log files and find something
11:59 paxed hm. what would be the best way to edit config.xml_transform to test something? can i invoke $EDITOR in psql and edit field content?
12:00 AaronZ-PLS rfrasur: They canceled the holds, then checked them in which probbaly targeted the items for holds elswhere. Not sure what the intent was.
12:01 AaronZ-PLS phasefx: We could, but AFAIK they dont have assigned terminals and it was almost a week ago, so its probbaly not worth it.
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Results for 2013-06-21

10:33 mmorgan1 seems like it's possible for a barcode scanner to feed in digits faster than they can register in evergreen
10:34 rfrasur hmm, I haven't seen that but I'm not with the scanners much anymore either.
10:36 mmorgan1 rfrasur: btw, regarding the upc, you may be able to program your barcode scanners not to recognize these, as long as your book barcodes aren't the same kind
10:37 csharp mmorgan1: a simple test might be to scan the same barcodes into a text editor and see if the errors persist
10:38 csharp in our experience, those kinds of mis-scans are the fault of the scanner itself FWIW
10:38 csharp (or *ahem*, staff)
10:38 rfrasur mmorgan1: you're right, we probably could.  but, I'm the IT department (it's sorely lacking) and the everything else, and decided it was easier to move the barcodes away from the UPC (they're never on the back anymore) and explicitly teach the full staff re: barcodes in general.  The obnoxious of the tutorial and the prospect of getting it again was a deterrent.
10:40 csharp and "strict barcode" doesn't stop the creation of invalid barcodes - it just checks for them when scanning
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13:00 mcooper I've been trying to convince people that new is exciting and full of potential for the better part of a year =)
13:05 b_bonner Hi all. Our staff is starting to test the OCLC number scheme change that is starting next month, and noticed something quite odd.  If an 001 OCLC number is the new style with "on" followed by 10 digits (on3987654321), it is NOT searchable in the opac (keyword or identifier).  However, it IS searchable if it is
13:05 b_bonner on" followed by 11 or 12 digits (on39876543211). Can someone help reproduce this and see if it's not just us?
13:05 b_bonner I've been able to change the oclc number on the same record back and forth between and can confirm this scenario on our system
13:07 b_bonner TCNs 1283817 (10 digit) and 1283816 (11 digit) on catalog.kcls.org if you want our examples
13:15 dbs b_bonner: looks like it should be indexed and retrievable via identifier|scn ...
13:18 dbs b_bonner: but right now catalog.kcls.org only seems to be returning 500 server errors :/
13:19 dbs in theory, if it was running, http://catalog.kcls.org/eg/o​pac/results?query=identifier|scn:3987654321 would give you what you're looking for
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13:30 b_bonner it is strange that identifier search on 001 works on other length entries, just not on+10
13:30 dbs b_bonner: it seems likely that you have something set up locally to do special things that don't match the Evergreen out-of-the-box experience. Hard to help with that :/
13:32 b_bonner dbs: hmm, thanks. will keep digging.  Can you do me a favor and try changing an 001 on your test system to "on54987654321" and see if it can find it via keyword or identifier search?
13:35 b_bonner dbs: and if not, does 11 digit?  (on39876543211)
13:40 csharp b_bonner: you might also poke around in the metabib tables to see if entries for each of those records are present
13:40 dbs http://laurentian-test.concat.ca/​eg/opac/results?query=identifier|scn:on54987654321 works
13:41 dbs ... but it's not getting (OCoLC)54987654321 as a 035$a like I would have expected.
13:41 dbs possibly because we have an institutional ID set? hrm.
13:42 b_bonner csharp: first thing I did.  every thing looks identical between them in metabib.identifier_field_entry between them when 10 or 11 digits, just search failing on 10
13:42 csharp hmm
13:44 b_bonner dbs csharp: query captured: http://pastebin.com/VpAteZRd
13:44 dbs http://laurentian-test.concat.ca/​eg/opac/results?query=identifier|scn:on39876543211 also works
13:45 dbs but really, the "on" should be stripped off
13:45 b_bonner dbs: any results without the scn?
13:45 dbs http://laurentian-test.concat.ca/eg/opac​/results?query=identifier:on39876543211 works fine too
13:45 b_bonner we have an identifer set up (accession) on the 001 tag
13:46 dbs Yeah, that's an out of the box thing
13:46 b_bonner and without scn on the 10 digit?
13:46 dbs http://laurentian-test.concat.ca/eg/opac​/results?query=identifier:on54987654321 works too
13:47 dbs Note that our system is set up to replace the 001 with the bib ID each time, so the results will show 001 739015
13:47 dbs But you can see the 035 $a that were added.
13:48 b_bonner dbs: yeah, that changes the scenario quite a bit
13:48 * dbs tries an ocn prefix, that works too.
13:48 dbs b_bonner: why?
14:31 jeffdavis dbs: we don't have the 8 latest commits in rel_2_4 yet
14:32 jeffdavis i'll try to integrate them after hours today
14:32 dbs lemme tell you, it's nice to be down to 4,000 WARN messages today
14:36 jeffdavis yeah, i'd like that fix - our test server osrfsys.log has 60K WARN messages from the past 36 hours
14:36 jeffdavis or I guess those multiple fixes
14:37 * jeffdavis adds rebase to todo list, says goodbye to any remaining time off this weekend ;)
14:37 dbs https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1192710 was a pretty good one too
14:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1192710 in Evergreen "QP uses numeric cmp operator for comparing strings, fills logs with warnings" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,New]
14:37 dbs not yet signed off or committed
15:19 csharp dbs: holy moly
15:19 bshum Maybe there's something wonky there that's taking too long to process out.
15:19 dbs kmlussier: it would be fun to be able to poke at your system to see the SQL that's getting generated and to enable the timelog for that part slowness
15:19 bshum Blah
15:20 bshum But of course, my only test server is running the custom new code for patron UI.
15:20 bshum So that throws a kink in my testing :(
15:20 csharp hrmm - I just got the message too
15:20 bshum timelog++
15:20 csharp lemme try the original title reported as an example
15:20 kmlussier1 csharp, bshum: I get the confirmation message on 2.3
15:20 bshum So then it's just csharp :(
15:21 bshum Maybe it's some weird local customization run amok?
15:22 bshum kmlussier1: You tested it via the staff client right?  On behalf of a patron?  I think that's where we're looking.
15:22 csharp hmm - the original example (with 250+ copies attached) *doesn't* show the message
15:22 kmlussier1 Yes, I followed the steps in the bug report.
15:23 csharp so maybe the holdings are a factor?
15:27 pinesol_green Dyrcona: It's all parts's fault!
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15:28 Dyrcona csharp: There is no such thing as a normal library.
15:28 bshum Nice, I apparently crashed my test server trying to place a hold via the new patron UI.
15:28 * bshum adds that to the long list of things to work out :(
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15:34 * Dyrcona imagines a dynamic battle for survival between kmlussier and her evil clone, kmlussier1.
15:34 bshum Doesn't seem to be a parts problem either.  Though I haven't found bibs with lots of holdings to try further yet.
15:34 bshum Dyrcona++ # I would watch that movie.
15:35 bshum ... uptime 10 minutes for the test server.  Well that's... interesting.
15:35 Dyrcona You caused it to reboot itself?
15:36 Dyrcona I'd check the logs very carefully. It likely has nothing to do with what you were doing in Evergreen.
15:36 bshum Yeah
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16:01 bshum Hmm, it does seem noticeably slower though when I do try it against bibs with large number of holdings.
16:02 bshum And the time it took to go from Submit to successfully placed took longer I mean.
16:02 kmlussier bshum: Yes, it was much slower for me too. My first test on the record with just a few copies went through very quickly.
16:04 kmlussier bshum: Did you say you had the alternate patron editor on the client where you were testing this?
16:04 bshum kmlussier: I am using that, yeah.
16:05 bshum kmlussier: But it's not very different.  The issue I encountered previously was because the server suffered some mysterious reboot :(
16:05 kmlussier I was just noticing that the catalog search/place holds screen loads in a different tab instead of being embedded in that patron frame. I wasn't sure if that would make a difference.

Results for 2013-06-20

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10:28 krvmga dbs: i'm not sure that the text in the record thought holds water. the first and the fourth returns have less text that the sixth return.
10:28 csharp btw, if there is a "intro to evergreen hacking" in the works, I'd love to be a test dummy for that project ;-)
10:29 krvmga csharp: is there such a thing? because i'd be all 'me, too' on that.
10:30 csharp krvmga: someone ( Dyrcona? ) mentioned it as an "it would be nice if..." type thing
10:31 Dyrcona Yeah, that was me. I think kivilahtio's work on debugging could be cleaned up into a nice chapter.
13:27 tsbere That largely falls into login type defs, though
13:27 bshum Heh
13:27 bshum Gotcha.
13:27 jihpringle i think part of the problem was in earlier versions of our testing server I wasn't getting the red bar for staff but I do now
13:28 jihpringle thanks all
13:36 * rfrasur has conquered the state system and reported and needs chocolate.
13:37 rfrasur @love chocolate
13:37 pinesol_green rfrasur: The operation succeeded.  rfrasur loves chocolate.
14:33 kmlussier Sure. It probably won't happen until after ALA and my subsequent vacation.
14:33 gmcharlt kmlussier: would you prefer to report back during the August meeting, then?
14:34 kmlussier No, that gives a couple of weeks for discussion. I should have something to report.
14:34 gmcharlt OK
14:34 gmcharlt moving on
14:34 gmcharlt #topic Announcement: Conference call for discussing organizing testing efforts
14:35 gmcharlt sborger: you have the floor
14:35 sborger Rogan, Andrea and I are planning a conference call on July 2 to further discuss organizing test efforts.
14:35 sborger I figured that I had some very basic questions about where to get started and how to get my local staff involved so others probably do as well.
14:35 sborger We will come up with a plan and share it at the next board meeting.
14:36 gmcharlt #info Shauna, Rogan, and Andrea are planning a conference call on July 2 to further discuss organizing test efforts.
14:36 gmcharlt any questions for sborger?
14:36 sborger Let me know if you are interested in joining the conference call right away and keep in mind that we will most likely look for volunteers in the future as well.
14:37 Rogan And the goal is to expand involvement so some of it may seem simple but anything that furthers the community through engagement and the work is worthy I think.
14:38 montgoc1 What time on July 2?
14:42 kmlussier Just a general comment. I've been very pleased with teh amount of communication with this release. Thanks Dan!
14:42 kmlussier dbwells++
14:42 yboston I just wanted to say thanks for trying out a new approach, not that the older approaches were bad
14:43 dbwells Thanks, all.  So far so good, but the only real test will be the actual release :)
14:43 gmcharlt thanks, again
14:43 gmcharlt moving on
14:43 gmcharlt #topic Grants and fundraising

Results for 2013-06-19

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08:46 kivilahtio everybody: berick: eeevil: I managed to get the debugger working. It was more simpler than I thought. I wrote a small tutorial about debugging and I would appreciate some feedback before I publish it under dokuwiki->"Project OpenSRF, the framework underlying Evergreen". https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CGMPWG2Pb5_m​hnnEzXywfkQTnp8OeCdMivjd9Pap_ow/edit?usp=sharing
08:47 Dyrcona kivilahtio++ #whether this works or not.
08:47 kivilahtio It works for me
08:48 kivilahtio but might not work for all services, tested with open-ils.serial
08:49 Dyrcona kivilahtio: I'll gladly test it with other services today. If this works or only needs slight modifications to work everywhere, then it is a god-send.
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08:50 kivilahtio Dyrcona: Happy to hear that.
09:18 Dyrcona kivilahtio: Yes, found it.
09:18 kivilahtio but to sum it up we are talking about normalizing capitalized author names
09:20 Dyrcona kivilahtio: You specify running as the opensrf user, but I've already installed OpenSRF and Evergreen on my workstation as my own user account, so that should be the same as running as opensrf user, right? (Just making sure.)
09:20 kivilahtio Dyrcona, right
09:20 kivilahtio that is the "advanced" part
09:20 kivilahtio well I havent tested it but that is what I would have done had I known this
09:29 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1177388 'Add to Po' Honors default copy count - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=aae36ea>
09:30 berick @quote add <Bender> An infinite loop?  I don't have time for that!
09:30 pinesol_green berick: The operation succeeded.  Quote #59 added.
12:32 rfrasur dbs: yeah
12:32 Dyrcona dbs: In 2.3.7, I think it has to be passed in as 1 otherwise it is zero.....
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12:33 frank Dyrcona: I changed the default value from 1 to 0 and I tested it, I looks well, The system generated the bill
12:33 Dyrcona I would have to checkout a 2.3 branch, but master ignores the grace period.
12:34 Dyrcona frank: Grace period can also be set from config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and config.rule_recurring_fine.
12:35 Dyrcona These would affect fine generation at checkin if using in-db circ rules.
15:04 eeevil it looks like simply delaying the execution of Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/version-up​grade/2.3-2.4-supplemental.sh until after you run 2.4.0-2.4.1-upgrade-db.sql should be enough
15:07 dbs eeevil: agreed, but probably worthwhile munging the 2.3-2.4 upgrade to include the good metabib function bodies, just in case
15:08 eeevil dbs: well, the 2.3-2.4 is 2.4.0 specific, so you'd run the 2.4.0-2.4.1 script anyway, right?
15:09 jeffdavis I had been planning to go live on 2.4.0 since we don't have time to test 2.4.1, but I dunno how much of a consideration that sort of situation should be here
15:10 dbs eeevil: you might, if the 2.3-2.4 script didn't say "Now run supplemental.sh" right at the end of it?
15:10 eeevil jeffdavis: there are significant bug fixes that will exist in 2.4.0, fwiw. the apostrophe stuff is just one of them
15:10 * dbs was about to recommend to jeffdavis to skip 2.4.0 :)

Results for 2013-06-18

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11:02 jeffdavis The clipboard thing came up in our 2.4 testing, and the response has been "Ok, let's update the documentation and notify libraries that it's changed."
11:03 dbs jeffdavis++ # I'm with you and phasefx as far as "all other software works this way"
11:03 csharp bshum++ # suggesting using the linux client
11:03 csharp I was able to resolve one of the "stuck" accounts
11:21 jcamins kmlussier: yes please!
11:21 jcamins New libraries are more fun, so I really ought to know these things.
11:21 jcamins Ruth: any idea who assigns in Indiana?
11:22 kmlussier dbs: Sure, what we really need is usability testing and experts in UI design. But I'm preaching to the choir. :)
11:22 Ruth hmm, I think you'd need to talk with jboyers-isl or Shauna or our new EG coordinator...Anna...I'll look up contact info and pm you
11:22 jcamins Thanks!
11:22 Ruth hmm, or not...it's public information.  Hold on.
12:46 rfrasur okay.
12:46 phasefx rfrasur: if code were legos, OpenSRF would be some larger blocks made up of the legos, and Evergreen would be legos springing off of the OpenSRF blocks :D
12:46 phasefx we need a car analogy too
12:47 bshum dbs: looks good to me.  Tested and I'm not seeing any noise for that one anymore.
12:47 phasefx OpenSRF is chassis
12:47 bshum dbs: I'll get it pushed in a moment.
12:47 rfrasur phasefx: That sounds like a mess of legos
13:28 kmlussier Dyrcona: Probably not.
13:29 Dyrcona kmlussier: OK. As you may already know we're changing our network provider this weekend and will have different IP addresses on Monday.
13:29 Dyrcona I figured that I'd just build a new VM rather than reconfigure the one that I'm currently running.
13:29 kmlussier ok. I'm hoping to test all of those branches over the next couple of days.
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15:26 Dyrcona Or, wait... Is your database connection configured correctly?
15:32 Dyrcona Polo: Did you do eg_db_config.pl?
15:32 Polo Sorry I had stepped away
15:33 Polo Everything was working correctly yesterday and then we had someone truncate the usr table. which isn't that big of an issue as we are still in a test env
15:33 Polo so I was trying to add the user back. I don't think anything changed with the database connection
15:33 Polo is there a way I can test it correctly?
15:36 Dyrcona You'll want to look in opensrf.xml and make sure that the database credentials are correct for the storage service. That is the one that seems to be failing in your paste.
15:38 Polo Ok thanks for the point to the right spot :D
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Results for 2013-06-17

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15:09 ldwhalen Did you delete it or forget the password?
15:10 Guest90545 It was deleted..  employee deleted the evergreen.usr schema
15:12 jeff restoring from a backup (or doing a point in time recovery) of your database is going to be best.
15:13 jeff was this a production system, or something you were testing / evaluating?
15:14 Guest90545 Well he never setup the backup, this is how we figured it out (he is gone now).. and I'm not sure how far back it happened, we think about a week...  and yes this has bibs, author, circ policy, etc all in the system
15:14 Guest90545 Yes it is a production server
15:15 dbs Well, you could copy the actor.usr schema definition from Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/005.schema.actors.sql and then populate that, but... there are all kinds of tables that depend on it.
16:17 jeff dbs++
16:17 jeff dbs: i noticed an issue that wasn't on the list. :-)
16:18 jeff dbs: (the renewals bit from last night -- which may not have qualified for that list)
16:24 jeffdavis thanks for sharing that, dbs
16:31 jeffdavis interesting to hear about that client auto-update error, I was seeing the same error while testing updates on our test server too
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Results for 2013-06-14

13:07 csharp Phenol: the database got dropped?
13:07 mrpeters yiukes
13:07 csharp yowza
13:07 rfrasur (please say it was a test db)
13:07 Phenol nope
13:07 rfrasur holy....
13:07 mrpeters please say you have backups
14:38 rfrasur dbs++
14:38 dbs kmlussier: found this one: http://piratepad.net/fmgsocquestions-evergreen - but that's not the one
14:38 rfrasur kmlussier: just imagine the possibilities.  Just imagine.
14:39 dbwells Last call for anyone who want to sign-off and push the whitespace commit.  The branch is rebased to current master: user/dbwells/whitespace_fixup_m1
14:40 dbwells I've tested it as much as I could, and also individual inspected every heredoc, and didn't notice any issues.
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14:41 csharp EG2014 snapshot from the future: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/​63834000/jpg/_63834706_morphtoo624.jpg
14:41 dbs kmlussier: and this one: http://piratepad.net/evergreen
14:55 rfrasur kmlussier++
14:55 rfrasur that's what I was thinking
15:04 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Post-2.5-m1 whitespace fixup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=14354b6>
15:05 phasefx dbwells: no smoke or fires when I test it, but I'm scaredy cat for pushing to master :)  collab/phasefx/whitespace_fixup_m1
15:06 * berick gives master a good poke
15:06 phasefx ha, I was late
15:07 dbwells phasefx: Sorry for pulling the trigger a little too quick.  Thanks for the reassurance in any case!
17:38 jeff_ the copy does not appear in asset.cache_copy_visibility
17:38 jeff_ looking at the asset.cache_copy_visibility function
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17:58 ldwhalen Would anyone with access to a 2.4 server and OS X like to test an OS 2.4 client DMG?
17:59 ldwhalen Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6f3yw1hakshtcc7/rk​s6Fcn2Cp/Evergreen%202.4%20Staff%20Client.dmg
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Results for 2013-06-12

12:08 DPearl csharp: Haven't checked settings-tester.pl
12:08 csharp oh wait - that's EG
12:08 bshum Right.
12:08 csharp hmm - it'd be nice to have for the opensrf testing step, though, huh?
12:09 * bshum still dislikes how opensrf is a separately installed thing.  When will we just bundle it all together already :D
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12:10 pastebot "DPearl" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "ejabberd.cfg" (644 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/28
14:28 phasefx the diff -b thing gmcharlt pointed out was reassuring
14:29 bshum kayals: Bear with us for a moment, there's a developer meeting happening for the next little while.  We'll be done soonish.
14:29 kayals sure.
14:29 gmcharlt dbwells: one thing I didn't specifically test was that code using heredocs remained unbroken
14:29 gmcharlt (or at least in its current state of brokeness or not ;)
14:30 eeevil gmcharlt: that's where my fear lies, but dbwells' logic seems sound in first analysis
14:30 gmcharlt agreed, the logic seems sound
14:30 dbwells At a few stages I ran a recursive 'perl -c' over the whole set, and at this point the output from those is identical.
14:36 eeevil certainly ... thanks!
14:38 dbwells so... who wants to sign off?
14:39 bshum On the small steps first?  +1 to small steps
14:39 gmcharlt my view -- I'm comfortable with pushing the whitespace change provided somebody explicitly tests the heredocs; alas, I doubt I have any tuits for that this week
14:39 gmcharlt and in any event, I'd rather that it be done, if done at all, sooner rather than later
14:41 eeevil dbwells: is it only perl modules (*.pm), or all perl-type files?
14:41 dbwells Well, let's not hold up the meeting.  I'll run a few more tests, make sure the branch is up-to-date, then see if I can round up a volunteer to jump with me.
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14:42 bshum Adding some dates to the notes
14:42 bshum Does anyone have anything about Dan's suggested dates for the next round of commit action?
14:42 berick heh, dbwells and louise, flying over the cliff
14:42 bshum They seemed reasonable to me.
14:43 bshum #info 7/1 - suggested last day for targetting bugs/features at 2.5-m2
14:43 bshum #info 7/2-7/12 - Suggested period to focus energy on reviewing/committing m2
14:43 bshum bugs/features
14:44 bshum #info dbwells working on whitespace cleanup; will do more tests and find others
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14:44 dbwells eeevil: The command as written is limited to the *.pm.  I looked briefly for other common file patterns, and came up empty.  I also grepped for tabs in the whole perlmods dir after running the commands, and found just one in a test file, so I figured that was close enough.
14:44 bshum Anything else about 2.5 before we move on?  I'd like to have a short word on the next maintenance releases.
14:44 eeevil (one last thing re whitespace ... it's really just HEREDOCs with space in front. for those that want to test, it looks like circ, actor, cat, search and resolver-resolver services, and added content, exporter, tpac and supercat web stuff could all break .... if they're not broken, things are looking good)
14:45 eeevil I found that using `ack '<<"' --type=perl|grep \.pm|cut -f1 -d:|sort -u`
14:46 dbwells eeevil: Thanks for the list.  In my testing, I believe every service at least started, but it never hurts to triple-check.
14:46 eeevil and `ack "<<'" --type=perl|grep \.pm|cut -f1 -d:|sort -u` adds booking and bib batch update to the list to test
14:47 dbwells bshum: nothing from me
14:47 bshum Cool, eeevil++ showing us the things to check :D
14:47 bshum So next
14:48 bshum Otherwise, I left other bugs untargeted for now.
14:48 bshum #link Link to 2.3.8 targeted bugs: https://launchpad.net/evergreen/+milestone/2.3.8
14:49 bshum #link Link to 2.2.10 targeted bugs: https://launchpad.net/evergreen/+milestone/2.2.10
14:49 eeevil for those following along with bug 1187433, there are now 2 branches on that, both for testing, both to repair 2.4-era regressions. one's been tested and one is new as of this morning. That's the most important outstanding 2.4/master bug I would like to appeal for eyes on for the june 2.4 release
14:49 bshum I assigned them to the maintainers, but that's something we can help out with.
14:49 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1187433 in Evergreen "apostrophe search issues in 2.4" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187433
14:49 eeevil (since were talkin' maint releases)
14:57 phasefx someone can always volunteer to maintain an otherwise defunct branch
14:57 rfrasur yup
14:58 bshum kmlussier: So to try being on track... the suggestion is that outside of 2.5 merging, maintenance releases, we try setting aside a specific time/day to work on miscellaneous bugs that have not had much love yet?
14:58 rfrasur I'll just make it more of a priority to get in on some testing
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14:59 kmlussier bshum: Yes, that's what I'm suggesting. If others think it's a good idea.
14:59 mrpeters i like that idea
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15:00 kmlussier When we used to have those pullrequest meetings, I loved seeing all the unloved patches finally getting merged in.
15:00 kmlussier Of course, I wasn't do much testing then, but would be able to help out now. :)
15:03 bshum For myself, I feel that bug squashing tends to happen best in conjunction with the maintenance releases.
15:03 bshum Maybe we should designate a particular day prior to the cutting date where we try to focus a bit more on it?
15:04 bshum Since bug squashing and getting fixes in would lead ultimately to being part of a maintenance release anyways for others to take.
15:56 kayals one database server with multiple databases for each library
15:56 jeffdavis But you wanted to have a single reports server for all of them?
15:56 kayals yes
15:57 jeffdavis as bshum says, interesting... :)
15:58 jeffdavis We've got a setup like that for our test environment but not with shared services like reports
15:58 bshum Yeah our test database server has multiple databases for various distinct Evergreen test systems too.
15:58 bshum But we don't run reports together.
15:58 kayals how can we configure reports for each library then
15:58 bshum Is there a reason the libraries need to be split up like that into disparate databases?
15:59 bshum Well, you could run clark-kent reporter on each Evergreen VM.  As long as the opensrf.xml was pointed to the right DB, I imagine that'd be fine.

Results for 2013-06-11

15:25 jeff_ isl-JBoyer++ welcome!
15:26 dbs eeevil: actually, note that all of my tests have been against the 'title' field
15:27 eeevil dbs: consider it noted
15:27 dbs hmm, and config.metabib_field_ts_map is devoid of rows on our test database
15:27 eeevil using_the_same_words_for_testing++
15:27 eeevil well... that's something
15:28 eeevil if, with those, it still fails ... it be code problems.
15:28 eeevil well, no
15:28 eeevil that's only used for fielded searches. title|proper: foo
15:28 tsbere dbs: You want config.metabib_class_ts_map, I think...
15:29 dbs tsbere: yeah, that's populated
15:29 dbs per 14:59 < dbs> I have simple -> A, english_nostop -> C in my test config.metabib_class_ts_map table. Doesn't seem to be resulting in any english_nostop in the actual queries
15:29 dbs and 15:02 < dbs> Only Publisher/metabib.pm attempts to set config_metabib_class_ts_map it seems.
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15:39 eeevil found it...
15:39 dbs yay
15:39 eeevil we're not loading the class->ts mapping
15:39 eeevil the calling code in open-ils.search calls the fts wrapper
15:40 eeevil the wrapper has an initialize block instead of using _initialize($parser)
15:40 eeevil once /any/ initialization has occurred, we never reinitialize the parser singleton (well, effective singleton)
15:41 eeevil and the wrapper's block does not do the class and field to ts config mapping
15:42 eeevil dbs: I'll toss a patch on the bug for you to test, if you want
15:44 * bshum has been watching quietly and can help test too.
15:44 bshum If I don't get carried away by flood waters that is.
15:44 bshum Crazy rain.
15:46 eeevil bshum: it's attached now
15:52 * tsbere is not surprised he missed that when figuring out the parser initializations
15:56 dbs eeevil++
15:59 bshum eeevil++
16:08 dbs Looks like it works in my limited tests
16:10 bshum Likewise
16:11 bshum Or at least, we get results where we didn't before.
16:14 * dbs added more details to the bug

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