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Results for 2014-03-17

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12:39 jeffdavis what are the search issues with production data that dbwells mentioned in the RC update email?
12:39 jeffdavis we've got a 2.6 beta test server with 200K bibs, can do some testing there if it would help
12:40 dbwells jeffdavis: part of the reason for delay is that the issue isn't clear yet (to me, at least)
12:40 bshum jeffdavis: One question, did you do any reingests on that test system already?
12:41 bshum The initial issue I would see is that 1) no format icons would be visible, and 2) using any of the search filters would not find any specific materials
12:41 bshum Till something gets reingested somewhere, somehow
12:41 bshum And the "somehow" is the part I've been trying to get to the bottom of
12:42 dbwells jeffdavis: yes, bshum is the mysterious "reporter", so he knows better than I.
12:47 jeffdavis for this test server I didn't run the upgrade scripts on production data, we have a test dataset containing a subset of 200K bibs (and other stuff) from our prod system
12:47 jeffdavis process was (1) create clean 2.6 database, (2) insert bibs and other data
12:47 berick the upgrade scripts aren't forcing a re-ingest, at least not the last time I checked.
12:48 jeffdavis I don't see the issues with format icons etc that bshum mentioned.
12:48 berick jeffdavis: yeah, on a new DB, it should not be an issue

Results for 2014-03-16

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12:21 dave_bn hello.  I've been experimentig with skins, readin TPAC documentation examples.  Could someone tell me how to clone an opac skin and change its default settings, e.g. starting library or locale?
12:24 dave_bn I have tried duplicating <Location /eg/kpac> or <Location /eg/opac>, but have not figured what to put inside

Results for 2014-03-15

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05:04 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
08:45 dbs That failure would be due to d2cb911
08:46 dbs err, 5e4d60cacab
08:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1286248: remove references to osrf_ctl.sh - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5e4d60c>

Results for 2014-03-14

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09:01 csharp ldwhalen: check out master, then create a signoff branch from master, then 'git cherry-pick -s' each commit, then push your signoff branch to working
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09:19 * csharp wishes he had more time to test/signoff on 2.6 fixes
09:19 csharp it's been a crazy few weeks in PINES land
09:20 bradl csharp: what's going on in PINES land?
09:20 bradl I mean, besides the /usual/ crazy :)
09:22 RoganH when everything is crazy, everything is usual.  <- one of the first things I learned in public libraries
13:37 jl- I'm just gonna stick with debian for consistency
13:37 berick debian++
13:37 berick (for servers, anyway)
13:37 dbwells Anyone here willing to test and push bug #1243023?  Everything but the upgrade script and the test already has two signoffs, if that helps.
13:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1243023 in Evergreen 2.5 "Browse catalogue titles are doubly escaped?" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243023
13:43 eeevil dbwells: I assume you just copied over the functions in question for the upgrade script?
13:44 dbwells eeevil: that was certainly my intention
13:46 dbwells My only real concern would be missing a function or copying the wrong one somehow.
13:51 dbwells eeevil: Looking again, I think I need a few more things in that upgrade.  Do I need to create evergreen.oils_xslt_process and also manually drop the public ones?
13:52 dbwells Nothing changed in that function other than the schema, so I wasn't sure what was necessary there.
13:53 dbwells One thing which confused me generally is that all my test DBs already had those functions in the evergreen schema, but I now see that my production DB has them in public.  Hmmmm...
13:54 jeff and I'd wager that some databases have them in both places, potentially conflicting. :-)
13:54 tsbere dbwells: I recommend a DROP FUNCTION with an IF EXISTS clause for the public one
13:55 tsbere after a "create or replace" in the evergreen schema, anyway

Results for 2014-03-13

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09:54 dbwells ldwhalen: ok, thanks
09:54 jl- shouldn't the environmental variables contain $
09:55 jl- you can test them with echo $variable
09:56 Dyrcona asimon: The /usr/bin/perl bits are probably unnecessary.
09:56 Dyrcona asimon: You might also try setting the shell explicitly to /bin/bash.
09:57 * Dyrcona is having a devil of a time understanding the forum thread that phasefx shared.
14:07 jl- export is running
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14:20 hbrennan jl-: You're really doing it?
14:27 jl- hbrennan: yup but it's still a test run of course
14:27 jl- ran fine appearently
14:27 hbrennan Exciting
14:28 hbrennan Hope the hotel issue hasn't stopped your plans for attending the conference?
14:30 jl- nope I will be there

Results for 2014-03-12

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04:22 dave_bn hi every one. my staff client is having error testing the hostname. the opac is working fine. This is the error I am getting: method=open-ils.circ.survey.retrieve.required params=["eaf4009609fa0037ad3e789f7dbbdbf2"] THROWN: null
04:24 dave_bn this is on freshly installed 2.5.2. I used apt-get method to install on fresh 12.04 x64 and the OPAC seems to be wroking fine. The only drawback being that I am unable to connect form staff client :)
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07:06 csharp @later tell dave_bn are there any corresponding messages in /openils/var/log/osrfsys.log?
07:06 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.
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17:42 * dbs throws up in his mouth a little bit at the browser-compatibility memories of bibtemplate
17:43 dbs bshum: reproducible on master with the sample data set?
18:27 bshum dbs: I don't believe that would be a problem with a clean DB. Though I didn't test upgrading one from a previous master up with stock data. I think my issues are entirely related to incomplete reingesting.
18:27 bshum If I do a full reingest, eventually my bibs show up. At least for the few I've manually forced to reingest
18:28 bshum I'm trying again with search_format which seems new but wasn't part of the suggested partial reingest.
18:29 bshum For some reason I'm having a hard time putting two and two together on where everything lives in the database tables now.
18:49 dbs bshum: it's grown really complex over the last version
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Results for 2014-03-11

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01:43 Guest37050 I read that as "Incoming from qantas"
01:43 Guest37050 Had me freaked out for a moment there..
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07:41 csharp @librarian
07:41 pinesol_green csharp: Management:11, Cataloging:16, Acquisitions:14, Reference:13, Circulation:12, Systems:7, Research:6, Custodial:10
07:49 * phasefx still hasn't had time to poke at the test failure :(
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08:58 jeff good morning!
09:09 _bott_ So, how much snow is forecast for Boston tomorrow?  ...better this week than next.
09:13 dbwells phasefx: I wonder if the failed tests are a DST thing.  Maybe rewrite the circs to 20 days, one hour ago?  Obviously we would need to pick an interval where the number of fine calcs is the same regardless of the 'missing' hour.
09:16 phasefx dbwells: I think it is a DST thing
09:17 * Dyrcona snickers: "Tests...."
09:18 dbwells Probably easy to solve for now, maybe tricky to solve forever.  Maybe we would need to do X days and 12 hours to get away from the edges.
09:18 phasefx better to have tests to fix than no tests at all; as long as we do fix them
09:18 * phasefx is just tuit-less at the moment
09:23 kmlussier _bott_: Last I saw, Boston is mostly getting rain tomorrow. The snow will be falling a little further north.
09:31 dbwells phasefx: fwiw, those tests just ran fine for me.  Perhaps the problem is triggered when running within an hour of midnight.  If that is the case, I'm not sure what would be worth doing about it.
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09:32 phasefx dbwells: ah; in that case, I'm happy to move the tests to run later or earlier
09:32 phasefx still not perfection, but...
09:34 * phasefx will take good enough
09:35 dbwells I think that's a reasonable stance
09:39 * Dyrcona builds a fresh VM to rid it of clutter.
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12:47 tsbere kayals: What kind of notices are you trying to make them for? Hold available are one of the only ones with SMS data available right now...
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13:10 bshum I didn't get to reply to dbwells' suggestion, but I see "bugmaster@evergreen-ils.org" coming up so I assume we're testing a new LP account?
13:11 * kmlussier has already set up a filter to divert those messages.
13:11 kmlussier dbwells++
13:11 dbwells bshum: yes.  I'll reply to that thread once I get these bugs all moved so people can better see what they think.
16:18 jboyer-laptaupe int(16.90 * 100) = 1689. Dammit, floating point. :(
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16:29 jeff Hrm. Anyone here have confirmation / refutation of print_win.js functions like print_do_sums working or not-working in 2.5?
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16:30 jeff co-worker's been trying to get it working on a test client, sounds like he's headed down to check at the circ desk to see if it stopped working there.
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17:05 jeff and... seems broken. argh.
17:08 jeff oh! now i suspect print_custom is at fault.
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17:21 jeff yeah. well, that's one of those "broken for HOW long and unreported?" things. :-)
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Results for 2014-03-10

00:47 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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06:58 phasefx that test failure came from live_t/03-overdue_circ.t, expected 13 bills, got 12.  probably bad logic in the test surrounding certain dates and not in Evergreen.  Will look later, unless someone gets the itch :)
07:07 * phasefx had to double-take, but today's xkcd: http://xkcd.com/1340/  apropos dates
07:31 csharp wow - so we'll really be kicking ourselves in 8000 years for not starting to use the five-digit year now, right? ;-)
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09:48 jeff pg 9.2 vs 9.3?
09:48 jeff dumb luck on my dataset?
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09:49 eeevil you could, conceivably, use it at the end, like: //*[local-name() == "leader"]/substring(.,7,1) ... but I haven't tested it.
09:49 eeevil jeff: I'm surprised it works, TBH
09:50 eeevil it's been a pain point for me since we first started thinking about in-db indexing
09:50 Dyrcona jeff: If I add the name space for xpath-functions, I get the following: DETAIL:  xmlXPathCompOpEval: function substring not found
09:54 * jeff runs a "just how many marc values are invalid xml" query in the reporting db
09:56 dbwells jeff: Which version of pg are you running?
11:00 csharp @eightball is there a statute of limitations for cataloging errors?
11:00 pinesol_green csharp: Maybe...
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11:05 dave_bn hi everyone!
11:05 dave_bn I am looking for a quick way to test evergreen
11:06 dave_bn so I need to install it on a test server.  Is there an automated installation script that comes with a documentation?
11:06 dave_bn or perhaps a virtual image I could deploy
11:06 dave_bn or more or less easy installation instructions.
11:07 dave_bn I have spent several hours with the official installation guides and also with sitka and paxed scripts, but have not been able to configure them properly due to lack of documentation.
11:08 jeff what documentation did you find lacking?
11:08 jeff i don't know that there is a current VM image for download, but I do know of at least one public "attempt to install everything automatically" script. let me see if i can find the url before someone else.
11:09 dave_bn jeff: thank you for your help
11:09 dave_bn I have spend many hours trying to install with official documentation and then with sitka's and paxed's scripts
11:10 jeff you specifically mentioned that you found a lack of documentation for something. can you give me further details on that? i'd like to see what can be done to resolve the issue.
11:11 yboston dave_bn: related to jeff's question, can you post the link to the documentation you are using? or some info on it. i ask because often those that have issues with installation are following outdated installation instructions
11:11 jeff i have used the installer here with reasonable success recently for installing a test/dev system: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=work​ing/random.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/hea​ds/collab/phasefx/wheezy_installer
11:12 paxed i doubt my script actually works anymore
11:12 jeff a more direct link, if you're not using git to clone the random repo: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/ra​ndom.git;a=tree;f=installer/wheezy;h=92dd7​d1d5d0f5acfe0b49793eb5e65af78d68455;hb=ref​s/heads/collab/phasefx/wheezy_installer
11:19 dave_bn paxed: it did do quite well, stopped at database creation, I think.
11:25 csharp dave_bn: happy to help
11:25 csharp I can vouch for it working
11:25 dave_bn jeff: regarding the lack of documentaiton, I meant the lack of documenatiaon for the sitka and paxed automated scripts
11:25 csharp I really only install from source now when testing community stuff
11:26 jeff dave_bn: ah. thanks! that clears that part up. now, how about the discrepancies you found?
11:29 Dyrcona dave_bn: My suggestion for installation is ignore any documentation on the web, and use the README files inside the tarballs.
11:30 Dyrcona dave_bn: My next suggestion for installation for installation is don't use the tarballs and install from a git clone.
11:33 bshum Oh that.
11:34 bshum *too
11:34 dave_bn jeff: and when I installed opensrf, I needed to put all the password in configuration, which took some time, only to find out that the configuration files would be overwritten by evergreen installation guide later :) and I would need to put the passwords again
11:35 jeff dave_bn: slightly annoying, but it is important to test opensrf before continuing on to evergreen installation. :-)
11:35 dave_bn dyrcona: I see. but the APT method is reliable, yes?
11:35 Dyrcona I always make sure that the following are installed before proceeding: acpid, vim, openssh-server, screen, wget, git-core, build-essential, zip, nsis, man-db, autoconf, automake, libtool, aptitude, tmux
11:35 Dyrcona dave_bn: Dunno. I only ever install from git checkouts.
11:42 jeff dave_bn: was the point of confusion that you didn't realize that you needed to enter the passwords twice, so you skipped that step after installing evergreen?
11:42 dave_bn Dyrcona: no :) this is the reason I have not been able to follow the instructions properly obviously
11:43 dave_bn jeff: no, I just had to look throught the xml configuration file twice, and I guess the first time it was not really required, as following the EG guide overwrites the opensrf configuration anyway
11:46 Dyrcona dave_bn: If you want to test OpenSRF before installing Evergreen, it is necessary to put the passwords in the file.
11:47 Dyrcona I always test OpenSRF by doing the math add 2,2 call before installing Evergreen when I set up a new VM.
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11:58 dave_bn Dyrcona: I see.  It also helped me understand the process, though was a bit time consuming at first. I guess I will be able to to it faster the next time.
12:44 csharp or during installation?
12:45 eeevil bshum: working/collab/miker/metar​ecord-deleted-constituents updated
12:45 dave_bn csharp: this is during installation. should I reboot manually now?
12:45 csharp dave_bn: you shouldn't have to
12:45 csharp dave_bn: give me a minute to try something on my test server
12:45 ldwhalen ktomita: I think the hardest part to test is the warning message appearing when it should not appear.  From my testing it works as it should, but there may be cases where the variables I am using are persisting when they should not, so the message might appear elsewhere.  I do not expect this to happen, but that is a concern.
12:47 ktomita ldwhalen: I will look out for that.
12:47 ldwhalen ktomita: thank you for looking at the branches
12:47 bshum eeevil: Cool, I'll check that in, once I figure out what that internal flag is all about.  I didn't remember that one before.
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12:52 bshum Calling 0872
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12:53 csharp dave_bn: almost done with my test...
12:53 dave_bn csharp: thanks for your help
12:54 csharp dave_bn: no problem - I want our APT repo to be a viable option for installing stock test servers ;-)
12:55 eeevil How would you like comments that apply to the OmniTI suggestions you put up on the wiki? (re: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=dev:testing:performance_report ) ... would you like them in-line on that page?
12:57 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1284864: Don't leak deleted constituent records - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5f03068>
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12:57 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1284864: Forcibly update deleted MR masters - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f4d5813>
13:44 ldwhalen bshum: is is it broken when you do not use a pubdate in the search?
13:44 bshum ldwhalen: I was just doing a title search and it dies horribly.  I could try other types of searches too.
13:45 Dyrcona ldwhalen: I verified it doing only a title.
13:45 ldwhalen bshum: I have a fix for a similar bug when using a pubdate.  It has been tested.  I will push it to a working branch.  There is an issue when the source does not return results.
13:46 bshum Given that the source is the native catalog (aka our own system) that's not very comforting either.
13:46 bshum But I'll be curious to see what you saw with pubdate
13:48 bshum And sorry phasefx, just got distracted by this z3950 bug.  But I plan to take a closer look at that bug with localstore.rdf.  Seems like something we should try fixing as a performance type of issue.
14:34 csharp dave_bn: a word of caution... now that you have Evergreen installed, I would recommend commenting out the apt/sources.list entry
14:35 csharp otherwise you may risk inadvertently "upgrading" when our folks put in newer versions of Evergreen/OpenSRF
14:35 dave_bn csharp: thank you, will do that.
14:35 csharp we haven't tested upgrading via APT yet
14:36 dave_bn csharp: i see :) which staff client would be compatible with the current version I have installed?
14:36 jeff or risk getting owned when they turn evil ;-)
14:36 csharp jeff: exactly!

Results for 2014-03-09

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Results for 2014-03-07

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09:15 jeff jl-: in addition to the data set at archive.org for openlibrary, there's a batch (or two!) of gutenberg records here: http://www.gutenberg.org/wik​i/Gutenberg:Offline_Catalogs
09:15 jeff dbwells++
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09:20 * dbwells creates a '--load-sample-harvard' option, watches his test machine go up in smoke
09:21 jeff --generate-random-bibs
09:21 jeff --count 100M
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11:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1289450 in Evergreen "mark OpenSRF 2.3.0 as minimum required version" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Low,New]
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11:22 wlayton gmcharlt: thanks!
11:23 remingtron berickm: testing your branch on bug 1281750 raised an unrelated bug, I think. Can you (or others) confirm?
11:23 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1281750 in Evergreen 2.5 "Fetching user group info on deleted users creates unnecessary load" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281750
11:23 remingtron open-ils.actor.usergroup.leaders.retrieve always returns all users in group, but master_account='f' for all but one
11:23 remingtron my guess is 'if $u->master_account' evals the string 'f' as true?
12:48 jeff and now i know where these records came from. :-)
12:48 jeff email++
12:48 jeff (correlation between create_date of this batch and an old 2011 email of a pair of libraries going live) :-)
12:51 bshum dbwells: Testing the negative balance branch on the test system.  So far, found a lost bill, paid it off to zero, then checked in the item to go and delete it.  So far no negative bills appear and no errors.  Good first sign for me.
12:51 bshum We'll keep testing here next week to look at some of the other scenarios.
12:53 kmlussier dbwells: Dyrcona has loaded the branch on his test server too. But I probably won't get a chance to look at it until after the conference.
13:00 dbwells bshum++ kmlussier++
13:02 jeff "Computer-generated, six-character numeric string that indicates the date the MARC record was created. Recorded in the pattern yymmdd."
13:03 jeff which will become more useless first, 008/00-05 or MARC itself? :P
13:04 bshum eeevil: I'm mostly worried about the deleted bibs.  The other thing is just junky bibs ruining our lives :)
13:04 bshum eeevil: So happy to try whatever you point me at.
13:04 eeevil cool
13:05 bshum Our test system is working with berick's lightly squashed branch too.  So hopefully I can check out some of the other things that have been fixed and get that signed off and in
13:05 gmcharlt bshum: OpenSRF master now eschews AUTOLAOD
13:05 jeff i mocked the two digit year-ness of 008/00-05, but in doing so realized what i was seeing.
13:05 gmcharlt it also dislieks AUTOLOAD
13:15 jeff Dyrcona: "required" in what sense? :-)
13:19 Dyrcona meh. It's MARC, it's gonna be junk.
13:27 pastebot "eeevil" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "for bshu. should avoid deleted metarecord constituents" (34 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/28
13:31 * bshum tests
13:33 bshum eeevil: It doesn't like that
13:33 bshum egweb: Context Loader error: Can't call method "content" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/O​penILS/WWW/EGCatLoader/Util.pm line 301.
13:34 eeevil hrm. interesting (and odd). well, I'll look futher
13:34 bshum Oh wait, maybe just a bad refresh, hang on.
13:34 bshum Nope
13:42 bshum egweb: Context Loader error: Can't locate object method "new" via package "OpenILS::WWW::EGCatLoader" at /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/OpenILS/WWW/EGWeb.pm line 111.\n
13:43 bshum Is the error though
13:43 eeevil we may want to wait for berick ... I'm not seeing where he's gathering the constituent record ids, and that's where we need to filter out deleted records
13:44 * bshum puts things back for now to test other stuff
14:05 wlayton stupid git question: how do I pull in berickm 's prototype code at http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=work​ing/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/​heads/collab/berick/web-staff-proto
14:05 wlayton ideally, I'd like to pull that into a separate branch
14:06 bshum You can always checkout that branch with something like git checkout -b localbranch remote/remotebranch
14:31 jeff @whocares git
14:31 pinesol_green Dyrcona, tsbere, bshum and csharp love git
14:31 pinesol_green kmlussier hates git
14:31 dbwells eeevil: Yeah, sorry, got your comment after I posted my question.  Did a quick test by deleting record 15 from the DB (it was master of a group of three), but it looks like the master_record is still set to 15.
14:31 bshum Maybe git should hate kmlussier :)
14:31 kmlussier git does hate kmlussier. That's the problem.
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14:34 jeff hey, the history's there. :-)
14:35 bshum Hehe
14:35 jeff it's just no longer an active, running service (if you followed the recommendations when upgrading). ;-)
14:36 bshum I'll admit, I found out that I initially installed an older git branch because I was using the ingest change to mark times since the last time I upgraded our test server and was surprised to still see it in my opensrf.xml.example
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14:37 bshum So jeff, your change spared me from looking really stupid for claiming we'd "upgraded" our test systems.
14:38 bshum As for old demons though, I didn't mean it, really I didn't!
14:39 dbwells That's what they all say
14:40 pinesol_green [evergreen|Elliot V] LP#1077811 Inconsistent INSTALL Instructions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f102496>
14:52 bshum yboston++ # and now I get what MX / LATAM is all about.
15:44 berick jeff: it's fixed in currrent master, btw
15:44 jeff yep! :-)
15:45 berick that's the first (and only, so far) instance of that I've hit
15:55 bshum eeevil: I can confirm that the reason I've had icon / format search issues is due to lacking reingests.  I'll schedule some time over the weekend to populate our test DB.
15:55 eeevil bshum: I'm both glad to hear it's reingest-related and sad to hear you'll have to reingest ;)
15:56 bshum Fwiw, the icons look really cool for the two or three bibs I manually reingested to test that out.
15:57 bshum Or rather, I can see potential there.
15:58 bshum For configuring these things, I'm thinking it's the coded value maps?
15:58 dbwells bshum: Are you saying a full reingest is needed, or just the new attribute-only reingest?
15:58 bshum dbwells: Let me try attribute-only if I can find the instructions for that.  I just did a full reingest to get it over with to make it known to myself that it wasn't just broken.
16:01 dbwells bshum: You could reingest all the attributes, or even try just the icon_format with a spell eeevil gave on the bug:  select count(metabib.reingest_record_attributes​(id,'{icon_format}'::TEXT[],marc,false)) from biblio.record_entry where id > 0 and not deleted;
16:16 berick eeevil: i'm curious, what benefit do you see in using sync requests?
16:17 dbwells bshum: But any that are now 'multi' could potentially improve by being reingested, I think.
16:17 bshum Maybe I should just do a full reingest over the weekend anyways then.  I'm sure I can ask someone to come up with more reasons :)
16:18 * dbwells thinks this is going to need some more testing and consideration
16:18 eeevil berick: the chance to reuse some existing code in the SC rewrite, primarily
16:18 eeevil (and flexibility)
16:18 eeevil dbwells: most are now multi, in fact
16:28 dbwells in bib records
16:28 berick eeevil: pcrud transactions don't require sync calls.. i'm confused what sync buys you there
16:28 eeevil but, if I have to give up sync-ish code for callbacks and promises to get fast and small and non-brittle code, it's a small price ;)
16:29 bshum dbwells: We have....1163490 bibs (not deleted)
16:29 bshum In this test system
16:30 dbwells bshum: My *very* rough estimate is that that last command I gave would take about an hour for a DB that size, give or take.
16:30 bshum dbwells: Worth a shot then.  Full reingest would certainly take longer.
16:31 eeevil berick: it's the conceptual (not code-ish) difference between "rewrite the permission list for a user" (conceptually atomic) and "update these 500 copies, and tell me along the way how we're doing" (conceptually streaming)
16:34 eeevil bshum: did you have a bug for the MR display issues? with berick's help, I think I've killed it (and fixed some other general MR problems)
16:34 bshum eeevil: I haven't had a chance to file it yet now that you mention it.
16:35 eeevil I can, if you like
16:35 bshum That'd be great, and I'm happy to test those fixes too
16:35 eeevil bshum: actually, you know, I'll just tack it onto berick's ... bug 1284864
16:35 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1284864 in Evergreen "TPAC metarecord / formats repairs and usability additions" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284864
16:35 bshum eeevil: That sounds good to me.
16:37 bshum Definitely, berick++
16:37 kmlussier @marc 505
16:37 pinesol_green kmlussier: The titles of separate works or parts of an item or the table of contents. The field may also contain statements of responsibility and volume numbers or other sequential designations. (Repeatable) [a,g,r,t,u,6,8]
16:38 bshum I haven't been able to try metarecord holds yet since without the formats, it seemed unhappy with them
16:38 bshum I'm hopeful that post reingest that'll be good to test
16:43 eeevil bshum: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/E​vergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/coll​ab/miker/metarecord-deleted-constituents
16:46 dbwells eeevil: so it looks like we were on the right track earlier?
16:48 dbwells glad to see it wasn't a waste of time then :)
18:18 bshum dbwells: Fwiw, 67m33.520s for that script you had me run
18:18 bshum So pretty right on the money
18:19 dbwells bshum: sweet, thanks!  Did it get the icons to show up as expected?
18:20 bshum I'm about to apply the fix for deleted bib leakage first
18:20 bshum Then fire up the test server
18:20 bshum Two shakes and I should know
18:20 dbwells ok, I'm heading out right now, so I'll see how it went later.  Have a good weekend.
18:21 bshum Have a good one!
18:21 bshum dbwells++

Results for 2014-03-06

09:53 Dyrcona @dnd
09:53 pinesol_green Dyrcona: strength:16 dexterity:9 constitution:16 intelligence:9 wisdom:12 charisma:7
09:53 Dyrcona random_stats--
09:54 jeff hey, build tests pass!
09:54 jeff i wish i knew more c.
09:55 csharp C++ #ha!
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10:23 bshum Doh, time change this weekend?  *big sigh*
10:56 bshum dbs++
10:56 eeevil bshum: Imma look at the located URIs thing from the other day RSN
10:57 phasefx bshum: just forward porting for those who still use it.  Not pushing for integration into master
10:57 bshum eeevil: Sounds good, I'm going to reingest a few more test records (not enough time to do the whole thing)
10:57 bshum (yet)
10:57 bshum phasefx: Cool, just thought I'd check.
10:57 bshum Thanks
10:58 pastebot "eeevil" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "for bshum ... please toss on your test server :)" (33 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/26
11:00 bshum Well, there's a syntax error
11:00 bshum Missing parenthesis / hanging ; maybe
11:01 eeevil um ... doesn't look like it to me...
11:01 * eeevil runs to a meeting, will look after
11:02 tsbere bshum/eevil: Perhaps add a ")x" before the order by at the end?
11:03 tsbere (sans quotes, but with the x)
11:06 bshum tsbere: Indeed that lets it run.  I'll test further once I get to the office in a bit.
11:07 eeevil tsbere: ah, yep. the upgrade script was already broken in that way ... so, I'll fix that too in a patch. bshum: ... nm :)
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11:29 eeevil bshum: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/he​ads/collab/miker/located-uris-leaking (with the subquery fixed. thanks, tsbere)
13:45 bshum berick++
13:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1287973 recover row breaks in TPAC advanced search - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=51473ec>
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13:56 bshum eeevil: Tested that new function and at least I'm not seeing crazy URIs everywhere :)
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13:58 krvmga if baker and taylor doesn't supply a jacket image, can be supply our own?
13:58 bshum krvmga: For...... the catalog?
14:00 eeevil dbwells: process question... are we saying, collectively, that one should be able to upgrade from, say, alpha to beta to RC to gold?
14:01 eeevil dbwells: or is the only promise for 2.5.current to 2.6.0 to work?
14:01 dbwells eeevil: my understanding has always been the second
14:01 eeevil (I'd rather just fix the existing upgrade scripts, especially now that we're past beta, and say "testing should be on a fresh system, either upgraded or baseline, not upgraded from the previous beta")
14:02 bshum I agree.  People shouldn't necessarily expect that it'll go alpha --> beta --> rc, etc.
14:02 eeevil good, ok ... then I can answer bshum! ;)
14:02 bshum That said,
17:53 bshum dcook: No it's probably just my generally addled brain trying to make weird phrases.  I do that all the time.
17:55 bshum Some weird place between whipping up something (conjuring) and tack, like sticking in a pin in something.  A small trivial thing.
17:55 dcook Fair enough :)
17:57 bshum dbwells: I put a time on 0864 this time, so I'll get a sense of how long it'll take to complete on our duplicate production hardware with the test database.
18:17 bshum Hmm, running for 20+ minutes now.  Guess I'll check back at it tomorrow.
18:17 bshum Or later tonight I mean
18:20 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 2.5.2-2.5.3 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5d62e7d>
18:30 pastebot "bshum" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "For hbrennan, top 50 karma entries in the pinesol_green database" (51 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/27
18:30 * bshum amuses himself with the c|16 entry there at the end.  c++ :P

Results for 2014-03-05

09:37 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
09:38 csharp @later tell huginn please tell #koha we said "hello"
09:38 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.
09:40 phasefx any objections to subscribing pinesol to http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/ in this channel?  It's been doing it in #openils-evergreen for a while now as an experiment
09:40 csharp phasefx: no objections here
09:41 Dyrcona My question would be: How spammy is that?
09:41 phasefx one message a day
09:41 bshum Fix the live test failure and I'll say yes.
09:41 bshum :D
09:42 bshum Cause otherwise it'll just make me sad to see that message.
09:42 Dyrcona I don't think one message a day would be a problem.
09:42 * phasefx was kind of hoping folks seeing the failure message would cause some impetus to getting it fixed :)
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09:42 phasefx there's a bug report for it <looks>
09:43 csharp looks like a missing perl lib?
09:43 jeff I started looking at Test::Output last night. I'm interested in getting it fixed. I don't like the idea of us getting used to live tests failing. :-)
09:43 jeff and yes, bug 1279420
09:43 phasefx bug 1279420
09:43 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1279420 in Evergreen "need Test::Output prerequisite" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1279420
09:43 phasefx jeff++
09:46 csharp I can test the ubuntu targets
09:46 phasefx csharp++
09:52 dbs phasefx: can you add a <meta charset="utf-8"> tag to the head of the testing output?
09:53 dbs jeff++
09:54 phasefx dbs: can do, and it's all in a public git branch
09:56 phasefx (that it refreshes and pulls from every night before running)
09:57 phasefx dbs: so just a <meta charset="utf-8"> between <head> and </head> somewhere?  no need to close with a </meta> ?
11:12 csharp @love kvm
11:12 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  csharp loves kvm.
11:16 * Dyrcona uses kvm + qemu.
11:17 csharp I'm still kind of stuck on virtualbox for local desktop stuff (running windows VMs) because of not-so-awesome network bridging in NetworkManager
11:17 csharp as soon as that's better, I'll switch completely
11:19 csharp (last time I tested that was on F19 last summer - now on Ubuntu 13.10)
11:20 dbs windows vms are the one thing I havent' been able to get working in kvm. but I don't want to taint my system with virtualbox kernel modules... so no windows vms for me.
11:20 csharp dbs: understood
11:20 csharp with the Linux staff client, I boot mine less and less frequently
11:21 dbs (mostly from a "hate it when a kernel bug report gets created but not submitted because the tainted module")
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11:34 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] LP#1279420 Add Test::Output prerequisite - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0cbadcc>
11:35 phasefx jeff++
11:58 csharp jeff++ phasefx++
11:58 csharp I didn't finish getting my dev servers built - is there still a need for me to test?
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14:36 jeff so, Business::Stripe fails tests under perl 5.18
14:38 jeff there's a pull request to fix it, but it seems to have gone unnoticed. i'm going to try to get an alternative fix accepted, but if it isn't accepted and a new release added to CPAN, we might need to force the install for at least fedora.
15:04 gmcharlt jeff: does it appaer that the maintainer is responsive at all?
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15:12 jeff Unclear. The repo for the distribution hasn't been updated in ~2y. The pull request is old, but it's also a bit messy. I'll know on the "responsive" or not in a few days. :-)

Results for 2014-03-04

12:47 bshum http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/
12:47 bshum (oh they changed their website...)
12:51 mmorgan Do slips print with either of those?
12:52 bshum mmorgan: I... think it can.  But I haven't tested it quite yet.
12:54 mmorgan We've had trouble getting the slips to print with different kiosks, but we'll take a look at these. Thanks!
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12:58 krvmga i've got a situation where one of the holds that a patron has placed is causing errors. in the staff client, looking at the patron's holds, there is one that is always "retrieving" and i can't see what it is. how can i get at that hold?
13:18 bshum mmorgan: Oh you know... there was a bug for awhile in selfcheck
13:18 bshum Where the receipts didn't print at all due to a javascript error
13:19 bshum But I can't remember if that was ever resolved in more recent versions.  Or if it only affected certain parts of the receipts.  Like billings.
13:20 mmorgan Do bugs work as sacrificial offerings? :)
13:22 mmorgan I know a few kiosks have been tried and some printed but had other issues. We need to do some more testing, these suggestions will help.
13:23 mmorgan dbs++ bshum++ Wyuli++
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13:33 tsbere bshum: I think part of the problem with printing is "modern web browsers don't allow automatic printing, or interaction with printer settings in general, at all from web pages anymore"
13:36 Wyuli mmorgan, tsbere: The Evergreen self-check module and I are not on real good terms. :\  There's a pretty slick open source self checkout packge that runs on PHP and is pretty slick.
15:37 Wyuli jboyer-isl++ Thanks; I think that solves the mystery rather succinctly. :)
15:38 berick dbwells++ # 2.6 beta summary
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15:54 eeevil I think we have code attached to all the RC blockers now ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergre​en/+bugs?field.tag=2.6-rc-blocker is looking for testers.  IMO, the sooner we can get those big ones out of the way the sooner we can start sweeping up the smaller bugs ... so, here's a call for testing, folks!
15:55 dbs eeevil++
15:56 dbwells eeevil++
16:01 gmcharlt eeevil++
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17:26 * bshum twiddles his thumbs waiting for 0864 to run on his test server.  (finish already!!)
17:31 bshum And it dies.
17:31 bshum Oy :(
17:31 dbwells :(
17:31 bshum Stupid reporter.classic_current_circ depends on rec_descriptor stuff
17:31 bshum Guess that's a killer.
17:52 bshum :)
17:52 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1287510 in Evergreen "2.5.2-2.5.3-upgrade-db.sql and ERROR: column "behind_desk" does not exist" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
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17:54 bshum Oh you know dbwells
17:54 bshum This is a bad, bad test
17:54 bshum I keep forgetting I'm using my Thinkpad with the SSD
17:54 bshum So it's probably doing the job much faster than it does with our regular disk servers.
17:54 bshum I'll let you know when I run it on the other machines.
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17:56 dbwells Oh, I was really just curious if we were talking minutes, 10s of minutes, or hours.  I am not too worried about it.
17:56 bshum Well, on the Thinkpad with SSD, it was no more than just minutes then.
18:07 bshum And that classic reporter issue
18:07 bshum We'll figure out what to do about it sometime before release I guess :\
18:07 dbwells bshum++ # thanks, man
18:08 bshum I'll finish whipping my test Evergreen frontend into shape and then see what things look like tomorrow.
18:31 bshum @later tell berick When you have a chance, curious to get your opinion on this new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1287973
18:31 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
18:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1287973 in Evergreen "TPAC - CSS for advanced search filters" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
18:31 bshum It's a tiny thing, but it irks me enough that I'd like to get to the bottom of it before 2.6 is "done"
18:50 eeevil bshum: there definitely is. I plan to merge a squashed, rebased version of that branch tomorrow morning
18:50 bshum eeevil: Ah, cool.  I'll watch for it then.
18:51 bshum And make sure that nobody clicks on that option in advanced search during tomorrow's demos :)
18:51 eeevil :)
18:52 eeevil I'm not certain that what you're seeing is covered, but I am certain that there are bug fixes and that it works on fresh and upgraded test instances 'round here
18:52 eeevil (and that we don't see ... that)
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18:52 bshum I have to take a closer look at these icon_format things
18:52 eeevil bshum: I assume you reingested (or, at least the attrs, if not the full records)?
19:08 * bshum looks again
19:08 eeevil well, as far as duplication is concerned...
19:08 eeevil but I might have misunderstood you
19:09 bshum It's alright, I often have trouble with my words.  And this is the first time I've actually had time to try applying these things to a test system.
19:14 eeevil you know ... we might need to add  "AND all_orgs.flag" (and wrap the pair in parens) for the right hand side of the OR in those where clauses. (let me know if you're not following ... I'm not giving a ton of context, I know)
19:14 bshum Oh I'm surely lost.  But maybe that's a consequence of not going home to eat dinner.
19:15 eeevil heh ... poke me tomorrow re evergreen.located_uris() and all_orgs.flag, I'll know what you mean ;)

Results for 2014-02-28

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10:36 jeff csharp: am i remembering correctly that you had a favorite tool for use on test/dev systems with regard to accepting all mail, but not relaying it on to its actual intended destination?
10:36 jeff it might have been a specific configuration of sendmail/exim/postfix, or it might have been a special-purpose MTA. ring any bells?
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10:45 Dyrcona jeff: You could always setup an inetd entry on port 25 and redirect it to /dev/null. ;)
10:46 Dyrcona That will "accept" all incoming mail and not send it on.
10:46 jeff someone suggested nc -l > /dev/null :-)
10:46 Dyrcona Yeah.
10:46 Dyrcona It won't do SMTP, though, so the other end might get confused.
10:46 tsbere_ jeff: I had, at one point, configured our mail server to accept all mail from our test systems but drop it into a local mailbox instead of the real destination(s)
10:46 jeff i don't think that either option would -- right, exactly.
10:47 jeff i might get some spam from old spambots, but not much else. :-)
10:47 csharp jeff: one of our admins had set up postfix to send to a directory (not /dev/null :-), but a similar idea), and it was set up so we could connect an email client to it to see what was sent
11:13 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1272316 in Evergreen "much slower holds processing in 2.4+" (affected: 10, heat: 46) [High,Confirmed]
11:14 eeevil kmlussier: absolutely
11:14 kmlussier Great - thanks!
11:14 eeevil I'm actually holding off cutting 2.4.next to give a couple folks a chance to test
11:14 eeevil however, I'll probably not wait much longer, since csharp has confirmed its efficacy and was the OP on the bug
11:15 eeevil IIRC
11:15 eeevil yeah, he was
11:15 kmlussier OK, good to know. I think we have a couple of people who are anxious to see it in production.
11:18 eeevil kmlussier: IIRC, Dyrcona applied my SQL-ified, rebased version of depesz's ranked volumes patch (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1234845) ... if you can confirm it's good for you, we could get that in soon, too. though that will probably not be 2.4 material (I'll have to look more closely)
11:18 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1234845 in Evergreen "possible optimization for evergreen.ranked_volumes database function" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Medium,Triaged]
11:18 eeevil kmlussier: applied to his test system, I mean
11:19 Dyrcona Yep.
11:19 kmlussier eeevil: I should have time to look at it today.
11:19 * gmcharlt tosses OpenSRF bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1286198 out for consideration
11:22 eeevil kmlussier: thanks
11:23 eeevil kmlussier: re the other one ... the issues you found confuse me, and I haven't looked back at it in a couple weeks
11:23 * eeevil tosses it on the pile
11:25 kmlussier eeevil: When you have time to look at it, let me know. The examples I used are outdated because new items have been added to the database since I first reported it. I'm happy to redo my testing at a time when eyes are on it.
11:25 eeevil thanks!
11:25 eeevil I will ping you before I start
11:29 Dyrcona gmcharlt: You have to change each bug independently of the others, unless you write a script.
11:40 jeff Dyrcona: yup. looks like the same issue.
11:41 gmcharlt heads up to those who run on OpenSRF master - I will be pushing lp1179660 at some point soonish
11:41 gmcharlt bug 1179660
11:41 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1179660 in OpenSRF "OpenSRF.pm AUTOLOAD complicates testing / serves little purpose" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179660
11:42 gmcharlt there is a decent chance that it will expose further AUTOLOAD dependers in the Evergreen codebase
11:42 gmcharlt in fact, that's exactly why I want to push it
11:43 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Good to know. I won't update my development environment for a few days, but when I do, I'll update OpenSRF, too.
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12:33 bshum eeevil: Oh I have it queued up in my master branch, but hadn't looked at the backports quite yet.
12:34 eeevil bshum: if you sign off on the master/2.6 version, I'll do the heavy lifting for backport. FWIW, we've pushed it into a 2.4 instance already
12:35 bshum eeevil: Yeah I wasn't too worried about the backport testing since I knew folks were on the case.
12:35 bshum Give me two seconds
12:36 eeevil bshum: I'll give you FOUR
12:36 bshum Heh
12:36 bshum I have to double check which upgrade number we're on
15:00 jeff bah
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15:23 jboyer-isl Is there some trick I'm missing with respect to rsyslog and eg-stats-collector? I followed the instructions here: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/equi​nox.git;a=blob;f=monitoring/eg-stats/README and my logging machine is just dumping all kinds of stuff in the egstats file.
15:29 kmlussier I'm looking at the new ranked volumes function on Dyrcona's server. It looks good, but then I got distracted by the shiny new "Group Formats and Editions" checkbox.
15:30 kmlussier But I can't get it to work correctly on any search I try. When I click on a title to see the grouped records, I always get 0 results.
15:30 kmlussier Is it possible the ranked volumes branch I'm testing affects it? I don't see any other dev branches on Jason's server that should affect the search results page.
15:33 berick kmlussier: can't say for sure, but i would recommend merging https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1284864 before testing MR stuff.  lots of fixes in there.
15:33 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1284864 in Evergreen "TPAC metarecord / formats repairs and usability additions" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Bill Erickson (erickson-esilibrary)
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15:37 kmlussier I was just looking at those, but didn't see this particular problem being noted.
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17:05 Bmagic Honestly, I am totally confused about Encode.pm
17:05 Bmagic I think that I have struggled with this for years now
17:08 Bmagic I have written code to test the string for utf8 and wide characters ahead of time and then encode/decode depending. I have liftedcode from EG and sometimes messing with some other modules.  It's all inconsistant and I have given up trying to figure this out but it keeps coming back and biting me
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17:11 Bmagic I would love a second set of eyes on this http://pastebin.com/e7D1s6Ys
17:12 Bmagic specifially sub query{}

Results for 2014-02-27

02:16 bshum Yeah, error is gone.  Nevermind, all is well after all.
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07:54 csharp bshum++ # testing through the night
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08:28 kmlussier A question for csharp, bshum, and/or eeevil regarding the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1272316/
08:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1272316 in Evergreen "much slower holds processing in 2.4+" (affected: 10, heat: 46) [High,Confirmed]
08:29 kmlussier It looks like most of the testing involved holds placement. Are you also seeing improvement for retargeting holds at checkin? Or is this fix specifically for the "place holds" issue?
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08:30 csharp kmlussier: we were not aware of a problem at checkin in PINES, so I haven't investigated that
08:33 csharp I'm investigating why our users are able to edit their own accounts in Evergreen 2.5.1 - I'm not sure that this wasn't going on before that... In any case, I'm looking closely at Open-ILS/xul/staff_client/​server/patron/user_edit.js for clues
08:34 csharp kmlussier: let me check that and get back to you
08:34 kmlussier csharp++ Thanks!
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09:07 csharp kmlussier: from my testing, I can see the hold targeter churning through far faster than before
09:07 csharp before the messages would hang, then move, then hang then move
09:08 csharp now they're moving pretty fast
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09:10 csharp on a related note, has anyone implemented a "delete holds and notify the patron when all eligible copies are in a non-holdable status" feature?
09:10 csharp I'm assuming A/T could handle that
09:10 csharp s/eligible/previously eligible/
09:12 jeff We don't currently have anything like that, and I'd be a bit hesitant to introduce it without at least a timeout interval, during which reporting could give staff the opportunity to intervene.
09:13 jeff But it would also probably be important to have a means to selectively suspend the pending cancellation process, and I'm not sure what form that should take.
09:14 csharp jeff: good points
09:14 tsbere csharp/jeff: We have a "these holds can't be filled" report that staff poke through every so often (I hope)
09:14 csharp tsbere: yeah that may be a better approach
09:15 jeff similar here. they show up on our standard holds ratio report with a ratio of infinity. :-)
09:16 bshum kmlussier: Agreed with csharp that hold_targeter churn does seem faster than before.
09:16 bshum As far as checkin, that's trickiwr
09:16 bshum *trickier for me to test right now.
09:17 bshum But I'm sure it'll come up soon.
09:20 csharp bshum: are you running the patches in production?
09:21 bshum csharp: Maybe .... :)
09:24 csharp heh
16:07 jeff which isn't the longest value, but it is the largest value shared by more than one record.
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17:03 bshum Oops
17:03 bshum Looks like Elliot is burned on osrf_control because he's not using the OpenSRF 2.3 beta
17:03 bshum In conjunction with testing for Evergreen 2.6 beta1
17:04 bshum gmcharlt: Was 2.3 cut after the last dev meeting?
17:04 bshum *OpenSRF 2.3
17:05 gmcharlt no, I'll get on that now
17:05 bshum I'll do some explanation for the discussion on the lists.
17:05 bshum Thanks gmcharlt
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18:53 jeffdavis we've got a 2.6beta1 test server up and running, will start proper testing tomorrow
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08:51 csharp @hates
08:51 pinesol_green` csharp hates dojo_hold_policies_interface; SIP; when libraries purchase third party products without testing and blame Evergreen for it not working; reports; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa; evil; reports more; reports even moar; details; reports even more; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out (1 more message)
08:51 csharp @more
08:51 pinesol_green` csharp: when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa even more; and having to teach SIP2 client vendors about the SIP2 specification
08:52 * csharp notices hatred themes of SIP and reports ;-)

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