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Results for 2015-06-06

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Results for 2015-06-05

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17:08 mmorgan Have a good weekend, all!
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Results for 2015-06-04

12:14 dbwells no, you have to tell ezproxy to not bounce proxy requests to itself, but to allow a login->redirect
12:14 dbwells sorry, ignore that
12:15 dbwells When you say "same problem", you still get no login?  Or you login and then get the 404?
12:15 gsams I do not appear to be getting a login at all, it leads to the same address with a 404.
12:15 gsams though I should probably reset or test at a different computer at this point
12:16 gsams yeah, 404 no login option given
12:17 hopkinsju jboyer-isl: Any update on those Ansible playbooks? I'm interested in working on that, but I'd like to have something to serve as a starting point.
12:19 dbwells gsams: when I visit the URL I pasted above, I get the login prompt.  It's possible you have cached redirect?
12:21 gsams That is possible, I just attempted to request an item from a different computer instead to double check.  I'm fixing that now on this computer with that link
15:55 Stompro I haven't heard from Yamil for a while, Hopefully he is just on vacation.
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16:54 Stompro Is there a guideline for when working git branches should be purged?  I'm assuming that once something gets committed the working branch on git.evergreen-ils.org should be deleted?
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17:06 dbs Stompro: that's a good assumption, but in practice very little ever gets purged
17:12 Stompro dbs, I just thought of one reason not to purge, it would make it harder for someone that is looking at an old resolved bug, that wants to see details of a working branch.  Rather than clicking on the link to the working branch they would have to track down the commit manually.
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Results for 2015-06-03

05:06 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
07:14 csharp bshum: no biggie - I just got a pinesol_green alert and was checking if it was still up
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10:38 csharp yep - it did
10:38 csharp yay!
10:40 mmorgan csharp++
10:44 csharp okay - so now that I know this process, I'm wondering how it could be improved...
10:45 csharp the problem in my case was that the vendor didn't get the EDI message because we were testing with berick's testing edi_pusher script, which is configured to exit before actually sending anything
10:45 csharp but there could be many reasons why that would fail, and there needs to be ways to recover from errors
10:46 csharp e.g., a "Re-Send Order to Vendor" button somewher
10:46 csharp e
10:47 csharp I'm pretty sure I was creating new debits each time I re-activated the PO - that obviously shouldn't need to happen to fix a technical mistake
10:55 Bmagic yeah, if that was on production, you might take a look at the debits for sure
10:55 Bmagic csharp++
10:55 csharp fortunately we're still on a test server, but these are real orders
11:03 Bmagic Anyone know where to find the logic that displays the columns in the web based staff client? (for grids)
11:04 berick Bmagic: start w/ the tt2 for the UI
11:04 berick it sets the behavior for each grid
11:23 Bmagic right
11:24 berick IOW, don't use the copy id as the field through which you access the hasholdscount class
11:24 Bmagic yeah, I think that is my problem
11:24 berick create a new holds_count (or whatever) field on the copy
11:25 berick after you get it set up and restart services, I also suggest testing your IDL changes via srfsh queries first
11:25 berick jumping straight to the web code creates a lot more opportunities for things to fail up front
11:26 Bmagic right on
11:27 Bmagic I tested it via srfsh against a new opensrf call I put into the perl, that is working
11:28 berick e.g. retrieving a copy w/ fleshed call_number http://pastie.org/10221783
11:28 Bmagic ah, that helps
11:28 Bmagic berick++
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15:52 Dyrcona If it turns out to not work as is, we can always change it in the future.
15:52 gmcharlt FWIW, I've started putting in test plans in my OpenSRF patches
15:53 Dyrcona gmcharlt++ # I noticed and would have tried it out, but the meeting came up.
15:54 gmcharlt in other news
15:54 gmcharlt #action gmcharlt and eeevil to organize a webstaff client hacking day in July
15:56 kmlussier terran: That's awesome!
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15:57 kmlussier If anyone needs a Sandbox, try to get the requests in by the end of the week so that we have a bit of time to get them ready.
15:57 terran I'd really appreciate it if someone would test this fix I posted for bug squashing day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1454871
15:57 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1454871 in Evergreen "KPAC Hold Notifications - SMS" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
15:59 bshum terran: I'll keep my eye on that one, but probably not till next week.  Maybe that'll be something we can test during bug day.
15:59 bshum KPAC loves misery.
15:59 bshum Err, misery loves company.
15:59 terran bshum +1
16:00 bshum (also, regrets that I'm late and mostly missed the meeting)
16:00 berick @who loves misery?
16:53 gsams I'm pretty sure the config is all correct for this purpose, but I have no idea on the user, and further no idea why I'm getting 404 for requests.
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17:18 dbwells gsams: what starting point URL are you trying to visit?
17:26 jjk` I've upgraded a test system code+schema from 2.3.5 -> 2.7.4. I'm expecting to find instructions on how to rebuild indexes and whatnot in the documentaiton but don't see it. I've started the reingest_2.6_bib_recs.sql which I suspect should take quite some time.  Should I be able to search & view any records in the opac at this point?
17:35 jjk` Okay, I'm starting to see some results now. I guess I wasn't being patient enough.
17:48 gsams dbwells: texasgroup.worldcat.org, if I understand your meaning
17:49 gsams dbwells: They would go through the catalog to find an item, then request it.  They'd then select their library (Roanoke, in my case) and be presented with the authentication, but it 404s instead.
17:54 dbwells gsams: I don't completely understand your use case, but based on what I've seen in your configs and what you've said, your SPU should be something like: https://catalog.northtexaslibraries.org:244​3/login?url=http://texasgroup.worldcat.org  Does that allow you to proxy, or is that where you get the 404?

Results for 2015-06-02

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07:59 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen!
07:59 kmlussier @weather 02771
11:36 hopkinsju We do that when all copies are under age based hold protection (and we changed that message to be more clear) but I'm feeling like we need to add something  for on order records also
11:39 Dyrcona Yeah, I think we just have the language when age hold protection comes into play.
11:39 mmorgan Yes, that's true for us as well. No special language for on order items.
11:39 Dyrcona berick++ # I have been testing the kill circ script branches this morning.
11:40 berick Dyrcona: sweet
11:40 jboyer-isl berick: I've specifically removed everything from our db servers over the years. They don't run anything now except the base system and postgres. We used to generate notices and payment reports directly on them, but that's been gone for some time.
11:40 Dyrcona Basically, just doing circulations and placing holds.
14:39 Dyrcona I just clicked on the big downloads graphic, didn't choose anything from a menu.
14:42 Dyrcona I wonder if the two lines devoted to OpenSRF on the egdownloads matrix/table should be changed to one, with a link to the OpenSRF downloads page.
14:42 dbs Windows failure was undoubtedly my fault for trying to just slide my VBox image over into virt-manager
14:52 csharp yeah - I'm trying to convert my .vdi into a working .qcow2 with no success yet - the working instance was installed from scratch
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15:56 csharp @test
15:56 pinesol_green csharp: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
16:00 bshum csharp: Am I spamming you with my experiments?
16:10 bshum I was toying briefly with seeing how the Cast plugin operated.  Freebase API is going away though end of this month, so meh
17:01 kmlussier jboyer-isl++
17:01 kmlussier @quote random
17:01 pinesol_green kmlussier: Quote #104: "<jeff> that's it. we're all switching to koha, right meow." (added by gmcharlt at 01:16 PM, January 02, 2015)
17:07 ohiojoe so I *think* I'm ticklishly close to having an evergreen sandbox installed here..
17:08 ohiojoe however, when I do the srfsh test, I'm getting "Received no data from server"
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17:11 ohiojoe wait a minute
17:11 ohiojoe settings-tester is telling me that the libdbi PostgreSQL driver was not found in the shared library path
17:30 dbs ohiojoe: that test in settings-tester should probably have been removed a long time ago
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19:41 bshum @later tell Dyrcona I forgot, did we ever do anything with https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1413336 ?  Maybe we should add that towards the next series.

Results for 2015-06-01

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Results for 2015-05-31

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11:49 bshum ohiojoe: not sure if you figured it out, but in addition to /etc/hosts entries for the specific hostname, you need to also include it in the /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg config for hosts to listen for.
11:50 bshum That's the part of the instructions where you include more than just localhost, but also private.localhost and public.localhost
11:51 bshum So those need to all match up in order to function under different hostnames.
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16:50 jeff and if your VM is in an environment where its hostname will change, you're going to have a bad time if you don't go through some extra effort to set the erlang node name.
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Results for 2015-05-30

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09:11 jonadab Yeah, sounds like missing the -f
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Results for 2015-05-29

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08:28 kmlussier devi_: You can't import records from a CSV files. You need to import MARC records.
08:29 devi_ how to obtain MARC records?
08:31 kmlussier devi_: If you're setting up a test system to see how it works, there is a test dataset called Concerto that can be used.
08:31 devi_ I have other system with data and want to migrate to new server
08:32 kmlussier devi_: OK, there is some info in this email thread here, but basically you would be looking to export the records out of your old system into a MARC format. http://markmail.org/message/ojwvigqpldn6wtsg
08:33 kmlussier devi_: A lot of it depends on what system you were previously using and how easy it is to obtain the records. But most library systems will already have those records in the MARC format.
12:47 Dyrcona It might have been in a private conversation.
12:47 Dyrcona We have a few quotes that lack context in the logs.
12:51 kmlussier I feel really sad that I haven't had a chance to experience the Armenian staff client yet if it is indeed that pretty. I was hoping I might find a link to a screenshot along with the quote.
12:53 bshum I don't have a copy of all my IRC logs from that time on this laptop, but Dyrcona is probably right that it was a PM I sent or some other remark.
12:54 bshum Looking at the log of the day it was added, it was during 2.1's development testing and I think I was testing all the languages for the staff client
12:54 bshum Trying to figure out an i18n error.
12:54 bshum That was preventing login or something
12:54 bshum But I might have gotten my bugs and stories mixed up.
12:57 * bshum grabs a stock 2.8 client to use to get a screenshot for kmlussier
12:58 kmlussier bshum: Well, I'm not *that* sad. You don't need to go to the trouble.
12:58 bshum Ouch
12:58 bshum Yeah that won't work :)
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16:26 alynn26 Everybody have a good weekend.
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Results for 2015-05-28

13:22 Dyrcona bshum++
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13:23 Dyrcona Bmagic: I'm talking about open-ils.circ.actor.user.checked_out, which is in Circ.pm. I'm probably barking up the wrong tree.
13:24 jeff Dyrcona: what kinds of tests (if any) do you want to see for selfcheck/jspac/craftsman/script-based removal? Just "release notes + live tests / manual testing as appropriate"?
13:25 Dyrcona jeff: Yeah, I think release notes + live tests (if possible) plus manual testing should do it.
13:25 jeff Good deal.
13:25 Dyrcona If anyone can come up with live tests for these, they may make good models to follow in the future.
13:27 jeff And I'll reply in-bug, but yes -- that jspac removal branch is intended to be sequential, remove legacy self checkout, remove old bbags interface, remove jspac. The bbags interface and/or dtree removal can be their own bugs.
13:27 jeff I didn't want to get too bug-happy.
13:27 jeff But I also didn't want it to be one massive "remove all this" commit either.
13:28 bshum jeff just wants separate karma bumps for each job well done ;)
13:28 bshum jeff++ # because he's awesome
13:29 jeff The karma's nice, but having a cleaner codebase is nicer. :-)
13:30 * bshum likes testing one thing at a time anyways.
13:30 jeff *nod*
13:31 Dyrcona heh
13:31 berick jeff: i'm sure you saw, but I rebased and cleaned up a bunch in bug #1312308
13:36 berick ah, cool
13:40 Bmagic Dyrcona++
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13:44 kmlussier So test plans for bug fixes go in the commit message? Should they be put on the LP bug too?
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14:37 gmcharlt kmlussier: good question, and I think it would be a good to do experiment informally
14:37 gmcharlt I lean towards putting them in the LP too as a way of further explaining the bug
14:37 * kmlussier is in the middle of writing her test plan in a commit message and hopes the experiment involves that particular step.
14:38 kmlussier Yeah, that's where I was leaning.
14:41 eeevil kmlussier: my thought is, since the author will have the commit message, they could just cut/paste the whole thing. I do that often (laziness being a virtue)
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16:53 kmlussier Would there be any objection to my moving bug 1403966 from wishlist to bug?
16:53 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1403966 in Evergreen "Search results for metarecord search should exclude publication-specific information from the display" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403966
16:55 jeff kmlussier: none here
16:55 kmlussier My main goal at the moment is to get in the list of things that can be tested for Bug Squashing Day.  If I keep it at wishlist, it's excluded. :)
16:57 * kmlussier hears the thunder rumble in the distance and decides to leave before the storm arrives
17:00 Dyrcona Too late. Storm's here.
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17:43 gsams Dyrcona: What sort of items get that sort of protection?  That seems really short.

Results for 2015-05-27

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09:55 kmlussier One of our sites is planning to upgrade to 2.8 soon. I looked through the LP bugs and didn't see anything that warranted waiting for the next point release. But I thought I would check with everyone here in case I'm missing something.
09:55 kmlussier I don know if anyone else is on 2.8 yet other than bshum.
09:56 pgardella We've upgraded to 2.8.1 in our development environment and are going live with it next week in production. So far, we've not any any issues with 2.8. I was using it extensively at the conference, and we've had two of our libraries testing it.
09:58 kmlussier pgardella: Thanks! That sounds promising. :)
09:58 csharp RoganH: what version did you upgrade SCLENDS to?
09:59 RoganH chsarp: 2.7.5
11:40 mrpeters nothing to my apache error logs today, other_vhosts_access.log just looks like normal activity, lots of 200 HTTP requests
11:41 jeff mrpeters: browser console is where i'd look
11:42 jboyer-isl mrpeters: This will make a difference, I'm just looking at webby, are you troubleshooting a local install?
11:42 mrpeters a PINES test server
11:42 mrpeters it is publicly accessible
11:42 jboyer-isl ok, never mind me then; I haven't given this a shot yet to know what even can go wrong.
11:42 mrpeters yeah thats what im trying to learn :P
11:43 mrpeters interesting
11:54 mrpeters yes, it is --
11:54 mrpeters sorry, was experimenting
11:58 berick hm, i'm able to override websocket cert problems w/ chrome without using --ignore-certificate-errors
11:58 jboyer-isl mrpeters: from the look of that section you might be better off using chrome for your testing so long as you have a self signed cert. I don't know if you can tell FF to ignore cert issues for that connection. (maybe if you tried to connect directly?)
11:59 mrpeters i have certs, so we're all good
11:59 mrpeters and i wasn't ignoring the docs jeff -- i just happened to do my experimenting before i read them :P
11:59 mrpeters we are in the mix now!  thanks jeff, jboyer-isl
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13:42 Dyrcona Fun with git merge: Make a change on a custom branch, decide to cherry-pick that commit into your master branch, merge the custom branch with master, get the new feature commit showing up twice in git log.
13:42 csharp yep, I've seen that
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15:31 csharp we're reviewing bug 885270 and have applied jboyer-isl 's fix on a test server (about to apply to production)... what I'm not understanding is what is the use case for having the "Patron Registration: Cloned patrons get address copy" setting at all?  Isn't the lack of that logic causing the bug in the first place?
15:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 885270 in Evergreen "Delete User Aborts on Shared Address" (affected: 5, heat: 26) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/885270
15:32 csharp in other words, shouldn't that setting be removed and jboyer-isl's script be added as an optional upgrade script?
15:34 jboyer-isl jeff has made the point in the past that some users may perfer the old way which can be made to work, but requires more work in the purge user functions. We had no desire to keep the old functionality at all, so I didn't research that very much.

Results for 2015-05-26

15:12 bshum jboyer-isl: Ah alrighty.  I'll give that a whirl.
15:13 bshum jboyer-isl++ # thanks!  :)
15:13 bshum awitter++ # spam warrior
15:14 jboyer-isl Also, oops about the scripts. We don't use them so I didn't test them properly, just copy pasta.
15:16 berick jboyer-isl: tell me more about this pasta replicator
15:16 bshum jboyer-isl: No worries, gives me stuff to poke at someday.
15:18 Dyrcona "Our pasta who art in collander, draining be they noodles..."
15:55 bshum jboyer-isl: That's what I was contemplating too.
15:56 bshum Non-SSD storage, but with more than enough RAM to have to deal with major I/O issues.
15:56 bshum As the tradeoff.
15:56 jboyer-isl Then there are no concerns about TRIM support, etc. (also, how often do you really hit the disk? ;) )
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16:05 jboyer-isl I will say for the logs, there's a lot of Pg tuning that you need to do to really make the best use of that much ram. I don't think we're 100% there, but things are in pretty good shape for the most part. (there are still sorting temp files created very occasionally)
16:06 jboyer-isl My hope is that I can get an identical model for testing, that would be huge.
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18:01 * berick wonders if anyone has used http://sqitch.org/ for any projects.
18:01 * berick says before disappearing

Results for 2015-05-25

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14:09 gsams Too quiet today, anyone else working today?  Not that I need anything just felt like taking a break.
14:13 bshum I'm in our data center.
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16:51 gsams @weather 76262
16:51 pinesol_green gsams: The current temperature in Roanoke, Texas is 63.7°F (3:47 PM CDT on May 25, 2015). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening...
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17:25 bshum @weather 06708
17:25 pinesol_green bshum: The current temperature in Town Plot, Waterbury, Connecticut is 76.8°F (5:25 PM EDT on May 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Steady).

Results for 2015-05-24

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Results for 2015-05-22

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08:02 pgardella kmlussier++ for catching my typo
10:33 Dyrcona Could be a bug with calculating/maintaing mbts....
10:34 Dyrcona maintaining, even.
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10:34 berick Dyrcona: any chance you could paste/email your test JEDI?
10:34 Dyrcona berick: Yes, if it fails again.
10:35 Dyrcona I just built a fresh vm to make 100% sure. I just have to install OpenSRF and Evergreen, etc.
10:35 mmorgan Hmm. Eyeballing these, looks like they are mostly all backdated checkins.
11:16 kmlussier dbwells: You must be more human than me. :)
11:17 * dbwells *more* human than someone?  First time for everything :)
11:17 kmlussier OK, it's me. Apparently, I have something that automatically logs me into that site, which worked fine until we added the math checks. I can disable that.
11:19 pastebot "Dyrcona" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "JEDI I'm testing with" (1 line) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/57
11:19 Dyrcona berick ^^
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11:21 berick thanks Dyrcona
13:08 jboyer-isl (apparently it is)
13:09 bshum Heh
13:12 Dyrcona :)
13:30 bshum eeevil++ # I'll add your latest patch to our test server for the TT caching
13:31 eeevil bshum: cool, thanks
13:31 bshum eeevil: So far, so good anyways.  I do feel like it's faster :)
13:32 Dyrcona I should test that branch out, too.
13:32 Dyrcona My dev system is pretty slow.
13:32 eeevil you'll really want http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Ev​ergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/g​mcharlt/lp1452366_preinit_context_loaders plus my last commit on http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/E​vergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/coll​ab/gmcharlt/lp1449709-TT-caching-by-egweb
13:33 bshum eeevil: Yeah I merged all of those, plus all the sprint2 so far published into the same test branch and rolled that out to our main test server.
13:34 bshum Fun to try things out with a copy of our data :P
13:34 eeevil rad. the former incorporates the latter, and one more that helps a bunch at apache worker startup
13:43 bshum eeevil: Hmm, adding those changes breaks my system with an internal server error.
13:44 bshum From ctx to r anyways
15:00 kmlussier But during the OpenSRF configuration, I already copied those opensrf files and edited the opensrf_core.xml .
15:05 jeff you copied different opensrf config files.
15:05 Stompro kmlussier, the OpenSRF install is not specific to Evergreen, it just gets OpenSRF up and running. (even though it targest the /openils/ dir).  When you install Evergreen you are installing new config files.
15:06 jeff there are example opensrf config files in the opensrf archive which set up basic services designed just to test opensrf
15:06 jeff there are example opensrf config files in the Evergreen archive which set up evergreen.
15:06 kmlussier And the two are different? That makes sense.
15:06 kmlussier jeff++ Stompro++
15:07 jeff if you don't install the opensrf config files that come with evergreen, then when you start "all opensrf services" you will get no evergreen opensrf services, you will only get the opensrf services that came with opensrf itself.
15:09 dbs at one point the docs had a very emphatic "Yes, we know you just did this for OpenSRF. You really do have to do this again for Evergreen."
15:09 dbs (or something like that
15:10 kmlussier One of the things I'm doing while running through the install is noting down places where the instructions could be clearer.
15:10 dbs kmlussier: you committed thoughtcrime
15:10 dbs thoughtmistake :)
15:10 dbs "Please refer back to the OpenSRF README and, as the opensrf Linux account, edit the Evergreen version of the opensrf_core.xml file using the same Jabber users and domains as you used while installing and testing OpenSRF.:
15:10 dbs is the current version of that note
15:11 * kmlussier probably commits thoughtmistake on an hourly basis
15:12 * dbs goes into fullblown reallifemistake typically
15:13 dbs Maybe rather than putting the stuff about "cp -b" in the note in that section of the docs, the "No, really. You have to do this for Evergreen now." should be the called-out note.

Results for 2015-05-21

10:02 pinesol_green jeff always wants pancakes.
10:02 berick Dyrcona++ # RM hat in the ring
10:03 jeff Dyrcona++
10:04 RoganH So, I'm trying to grok how detailed we want pg_tap tests in the non-concerto tests.  Do we want tests that ultimately would test for all the tables, indexes, etc...?
10:06 bshum Hmm, opinions on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1454879 -- bug or new feature?  (I'm leaning towards new, since it never displayed that information before, and if so, we should put in release note entry and add it towards 2.next, aka, 2.9)
10:06 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1454879 in Evergreen "Account Expiration Date in My Account" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Undecided,New]
10:08 berick bshum: i'd call it new as well
10:37 pinesol_green jwoodard: The current temperature in Nipe Ranch, Krugerville, Texas is 56.5°F (9:36 AM CDT on May 21, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
10:38 jwoodard It was just 85°F and sunny yesterday...
10:38 dbs timely article on release management stresses in PostgreSQL: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLi​nk/645020/15f0367e0d5affff/
10:40 pgardella Hi, all. Trying to track down why many of our action triggers don't work.  Namely overdue notices.  Our hook=longoverdue.auto ones work. The hook=checkout.due ones do not, not even the example seed one.  The action_trigger.event.state is "invalid" when I try to test the action trigger from the staff client.  Nothing gets put into action_trigger.event_output, and the gateway.log only has osrf_http_translator 2015-05-21 14:37:42 [ACT:18040:./osrf_htt
10:40 dbs we still use OpenSRF python for our custom LDAP-based auto-population of actor.usr & friends
10:42 pgardella Any thoughts on how to debug it further?
10:44 kmlussier Dyrcona++ # dusting off constrictor.
11:15 jboyer-isl jonadab: provided you can properly excersize it. We (I!) have issues with that, and that's before you even get to things like race conditions / bugs that lie in wait until the load spikes.
11:16 jonadab True.
11:16 krvmga git++
11:16 jonadab Although a project like Postgres is widespread enough to have a lot of people testing even the bleeding-edge code.
11:17 jboyer-isl git++ # in any case though.
11:17 bshum jonadab: Well, a project like Evergreen occasionally has... bleeding code
11:17 bshum And bleeding adopters
11:17 bshum But that's besides the point.
11:17 jonadab Yes, Evergreen would have more of a problem getting new stuff tested.
11:17 bshum I forgot what I was trying to say.
11:17 bshum I just see blood now.
11:19 jboyer-isl I don't know if Pg is on the list of projects that huge companies are now throwing money at (OpenSSL is where that started) but they probably should be.
13:38 bshum Or maybe the type of browser you've got
13:38 bshum Or weird caching
13:39 bmills bshum: all in https. in firefox now.
13:42 bshum bmills: Hmm, that sounds suspicious.
13:42 bshum Unfortunately we do not require passwords for our selfchecks
13:42 bshum So I don't think I've tested it lately.
13:43 bmills we only have one library interested in that aspect. otherwise..
13:52 bshum csharp: Every time I get a PGCon-announce email, I think to myself, (1) I wish I was going to hear the talks, and (2) I want poutine!!!  :( :(
13:52 bshum csharp: Just a little while to go, you'll have to share all the cool things you see and learn
13:53 bshum bmills: I'm firing up one of our test servers to see if I can duplicate the problem you see.
13:54 bshum Assuming of course, I can figure out which setting it is... whee!
13:54 * bshum sets both settings to TRUE for giggles
13:55 RoganH bshum: can we give karma to poutine?
13:56 yboston heads up, the IRC practice time will start at 2 PM EST
13:56 bshum RoganH: I would.... then I'd eat it.
15:19 gsams well, one of those
15:19 bshum bmills: That sounds like it might be a worthy goal...
15:19 bshum bmills: I haven't encountered it personally, but I guess I don't check out that slowly :)
15:19 tsbere gsams: I would call the iptables route more tested, though setcap kindof helps to ensure nothing else will use the port instead...
15:20 bshum I'd say Launchpad that idea, and if you can mock up a quick proof of concept on code, that'd be cool. : P
15:21 bmills bshum: thanks. mainly encountered the issue with the self check in kids. the piles can get big there
15:21 bmills bshum++
15:23 gsams Now I just have to figure out what went wrong with ezproxy...
15:24 * tsbere really needs to see about getting his "proxy straight in evergreen" stuff set up for testing somewhere...
15:24 tsbere I mean, I know it works in theory. I haven't actually tested with real services, though.
15:24 jboyer-isl gsams: I'
15:26 jboyer-isl I'd recommend looking into what tsbere mentioned re: iptables and redirection. That way you don't have to run the server as root. We actually have our firewall doing that before requests hit our z39.50 server, so that's another option. (And much more appealing since I think IPtables looks like a social experiment in gaslighting sysadmins...)
15:27 jboyer-isl Finally reading the rest of the scrollback, that's what he's doing anyway. Ah, well.
15:47 tsbere Megakeen: I actually wrote a database function to fill "new materials" bookbags based on various criteria for our members.
15:48 Megakeen I'm looking at a ppt about bookbag buckets now. I'll see what I can come up with.
15:49 Megakeen My local director expects miracles when I don't have access to anything at the consortium level--nothing on the back end. D:
15:51 makohund Megakeen: a test server with real data in it that you do have access to would be a nifty thing
15:51 Megakeen Okay, from what I'm reading it looks like user lists created in-browser in the catalog can be viewed/edited as buckets in the client?
15:52 Dyrcona Yes, that is true.
15:52 Megakeen I think that solves my issue, then. The powers that be requested an easier way to add/remove items from the new lists 'cause doing so from the web interface is clunky.
16:43 bshum And so they give you back junk
16:43 bshum For us, I think they use specific hostnames to verify that we are who we are.
16:43 bshum And that their content is allowed on our pages.
16:44 gsams Yeah, they were planning to pull the eg_vhost file from another site and the award.tt2 file from another site to see if we could figure it out
16:44 gsams I decided to take a shortcut
16:44 gsams but I think I know what's wrong, gonna test it
16:45 bshum Do you have multiple eg_vhost entries for your different virtualhosts?
16:45 bshum Maybe the variables aren't getting up to the right level
16:46 gsams The lines they sent me for those two variables had a colon in it that should have been a space
17:04 pgardella tbere++
17:11 mmorgan Hey! NOBLE got karma and I missed it?
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10:37 bshum We get a network failure
10:37 bshum Can't call method \"id\" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/Open​ILS/Application/Circ/Circulate.pm line 2536.
10:38 bshum Looking at that line in Circulate.pm, I find that it's attempting something with the dont_change_lost_zero
10:38 jeff can you reproduce on a test system and try with and without that setting enabled?
10:39 Bmagic When we migrate lost items, we make the status "missing"
10:39 bshum jeff: I'll see if I can find the same item in our test system.  Not sure if it's synced enough
10:40 Dyrcona bshum: I believe the key is in your 3rd line.
10:40 Dyrcona I'd just change the copy status to missing and try checking it in again.
10:41 Dyrcona Bmagic++
11:14 mmorgan bshum: kmlussier: We migrated "billed" items to a Lost status, but I think we migrated associated transactions for those.
11:15 mmorgan We haven't run into bshum's issue that I'm aware of.
11:15 kmlussier Even if it is a flaw in the data migration, I'm worried that there may be several sites that have that flaw. How hard would it be to do a fix so that those flawed migrated items are handled better?
11:16 * bshum lets his test database churn on a query while he drives over to the office for the next round of meetings...
11:19 Bmagic bshum: does this help identify the situation you are in?  select * from asset.copy where status=3 and id not in(select target_copy from action.circulation)
11:20 Dyrcona Bmagic: He's doing that one already. Thinks he's missing an index, 'cause it's taking forever.
11:20 Bmagic I see
11:21 mmorgan ... and found 131 items :-(
11:21 * kmlussier personally thinks a bug should be filed.
11:21 Dyrcona I ran this: select acp.id from asset.copy acp where acp.status = 3 and not acp.deleted and acp.id not in (select target_copy from action.circulation)
11:21 Dyrcona Took 9 seconds on my test database the first time.
11:21 * mmorgan agrees with kmlussier
11:22 jeff kmlussier: to answer your question, i don't know -- haven't looked. no objection to a bug being filed as a next step to getting an eye on it.
11:22 Bmagic yeah,  my test db returned 2100 rows in 10 seconds
11:25 Dyrcona I get 807, and after pulling out dates and doing some sorting, looks like all but 6 come from migration.
11:26 Dyrcona Most recent one is from July of 2013.
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16:15 bshum So yeah
16:15 bshum A sequential scan on 27 million rows of action.circulation apparently takes awhile to work
16:17 dbs hah
16:18 bshum I left our test DB running with the query to try finding all the bad "lost" items and it was still running this afternoon when I went to check on it.  Around 4+ hours later.
16:18 bshum So.... I'll think about better ways of finding that faster.
16:18 jeff what was your query, again?
16:19 bshum jeff: Mine was a very generic  SELECT COUNT(*) FROM asset.copy WHERE status = 3 AND deleted = FALSE AND id NOT IN (SELECT target_copy FROM action.circulation);
16:19 bshum The scan on getting target_copy from action.circulation is what's slowing me down
16:33 bshum jeff: Yes, that works, and invokes the index
16:33 bshum And voila, magic fast
16:34 bshum Just 35682 copies to deal with... huzzah
16:34 collum yep.  Just ran the same query on my test machine.  It runs exponentially faster.
16:34 Dyrcona Takes only about 1 second less on my data, but that's still an improvement. :)
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16:34 jeff yeah. completes in 623ms for me on a very very underpowered test instance.
16:34 bshum 2244 ms.  Vs. how 4+ hours and incomplete?  Yeah seems like a win.
16:35 jeff http://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif
16:35 bshum jeff++
16:58 bshum And run them whatever
16:58 bshum Well, edit and run them
16:59 jeff i'd go with that, yes.
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17:07 bshum I should add to the README
17:07 bshum Little things
17:08 bshum Like install libemail-sender-perl

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09:12 csharp eeevil: I definitely see a difference post-fix for bug 1438136 on my test server (http://next.gapines.org), but when I applied it to PINES production just now, I'm still seeing long-running queries - I'll try and dig up a core query and EXPLAIN ANALYZE it
09:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1438136 in Evergreen "OPAC searching significantly slowed by adding format filters" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438136
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Results for 2015-05-18

11:23 Bmagic I wonder if the order needs to specify the system in order for the query to identify the shelving ID
11:24 tsbere Dunno.
11:24 tsbere Can't even speculate at this point. ;)
11:58 berick Bmagic: csharp: fyi, pushed more fixes to bug 1373690 (edi template).  thanks again for all the testing
11:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1373690 in Evergreen "Direct EDI generation for ACQ orders -- AKA kill ruby webrick" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373690 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
12:01 kmlussier Webby is very slow this morning. Is work being done on it?
12:02 phasefx kmlussier: don't think so
12:16 phasefx seems to be okay to me; running to lunch :)
12:18 csharp well, the biggest problem with branch level copy locations I've seen is that, when combined with system-level cataloging, the copies can end up belonging to another branch's location (when locations are named the same across branches) - but that's fixed in bug 778989
12:18 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 778989 in Evergreen "Owning lib of asset.copy_location not visible in Item Attributes Editor UI" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778989
12:27 csharp berick: I'm afraid I'm going to have to wait for Leslie to get back to test correctly - I don't want to risk placing actual orders and confusing people because I don't know what I'm doing :-/
12:27 csharp but that said,
12:27 csharp berick++
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12:31 kmlussier phasefx: Works now. Thanks!
12:31 kmlussier phasefx++
14:52 csharp Bmagic++
14:54 Bmagic gotta stop giving me karma, it's gonna get destroyed, lol
14:54 berick hah
14:54 Bmagic let's do all this EDI testing after the karmapocolypse
14:58 * berick promises to manually carry over Bmagic's EDI karma
14:58 Bmagic haha, I'm just kidding, I dont care
14:58 berick ok, down to the last (obvious) problem.  fixing..
15:48 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1456289 - if memory serves, Bmagic and I saw this on 2.7 too, and it's cause autogen.sh wasn't run on the system with apache restarted
15:48 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1456289 in Evergreen "Tpac "edit" link on record screen does not save changes" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
15:49 kmlussier Ah! I recall that one.
15:50 bshum I'll put a note on the bug to that effect I guess
15:50 bshum And we can probably close it with invalid.
16:01 bshum gmcharlt: eeevil: mllewynn tells me that the vandelay loader for web client works fine (we tested it on our test server).
16:01 bshum She also says that the flat text editor doesn't stay as the default option when opening additional records (aka, remain checked)
16:01 bshum But otherwise, the sprint2 stuff so far, so good
16:06 Bmagic berick: 2.7.0
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16:08 berick Bmagic: thanks
16:14 tsbere Basically a single-machine brick
16:14 tsbere I can't even see an *attempt* at making the call in the server logs.
16:16 berick seems like the CONNECT is failing / not returning, so the .begin is never attempted
16:17 jeff tsbere: what specific pcrud-based interface(s) are you testing with?
16:18 tsbere Parts creation. Apparently from any interface you can create parts.
16:22 bshum Parts... sigh.
16:33 * tsbere glares at the javascript console of the staff client and the lineless "Transaction begin error" that tells him nothing about which of the four possible points that is generated did so
16:44 * tsbere glares even more as now everything is working
16:44 tsbere and nobody changed anything. I have just been trying to find logs.
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02:43 bshum Also, pie is awesome.
03:27 jeff pie++
03:27 jeff cruft--
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07:25 jeff landed at ORD.
12:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Added hard due dates docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9d88f62>
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Results for 2015-05-14

00:33 kmlussier berick: For the list of first-time contributors during the State of Evergreen tomorrow, I think at least one of the doc commits today came from a first-time contributor.
02:18 bshum parts++ # omg what????
02:20 kmlussier This is what happens when bshum starts drinking at the eg conference.
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13:30 kmlussier Shared Google Doc for notes on QA discussion https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i4RnCl7klNPf​7cCC9ZK0c13dt6dwYLs7238pSptrurQ/edit?usp=sharing
13:44 ldw I have a pgTap test here does not rely on in db data to test: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen​.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/t/acq_fund_amou​nt_test.pg;h=8eb37ca45a8a6adb2ff75f19e38ac5d8d7ae​8946;hb=5ef37d6bb5d17b06ac5b00f8a11973c0db423e38
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13:58 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#800706: add index to serial.record_entry.record - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b6e9559>
13:58 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#800706: add regression test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4ad53f4>
13:58 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP#800706: Stamping upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=aca6cb9>
13:59 csharp @blame add $who stole bshum's tux doll!
13:59 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Blame #19 added.
14:00 Dyrcona @blame 19 csharp
14:06 sandbergja yboston: thanks so much!
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14:16 Dyrcona ldw++
14:16 csharp PINES testing checklists link from this page: http://pines.georgialibraries.org/upgrade-2.7
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14:22 Dyrcona fixing_four_year_old_bugs++

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17:26 eeevil Stompro_home: thanks!
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16:56 kmlussier berick: I usually update http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=contributing:contributors. There are a few more names there over the past year, but a couple may have been late-adds.
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16:57 Stompro csharp, I would like to help with the debian packaging work, I saw you added that to the dev hackfest page of proposals.
16:57 csharp Stompro++ # awesome!  I'm excited to hear that
16:58 Stompro It looks like there are only 3 cpan modules left, Business::OnlinePayment::Paypal, Business::Stripe and Class::DBI::Frozen::301... I've been reading up on debian perl packaging, I wonder if packaging needed bugs have been filed for those 3 yet?

Results for 2015-05-10

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Results for 2015-05-09

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17:17 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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17:46 abhi_ hi

Results for 2015-05-08

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16:52 Stompro My wife just told me I just missed a call from "Microsoft" looking to update my computer, I love talking to those guys, I'm sad I missed it.
16:59 mmorgan Oh, those "Microsoft" guys really annoy me.
17:02 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:06 buzzy soon ... https://twitter.com/Evergreen​ILS/status/596782856396869632
17:07 Stompro buzzy++, first use of the #evgils15 tag, I've been waiting for it to turn up.
17:10 kmlussier I've opened up voting for which cookies I should make for the MassLNC development partners. More details here https://plus.google.com/+Kat​hyLussier/posts/PCk6Ya3Zivs
23:13 bshum Once we package new maintenance releases later this month, I expect that it'll be smoother sailing for installation on Debian Jessie.
23:15 nuentoter ok
23:15 nuentoter so for me to have a better installation experience right now would you recommend wheezy?
23:16 bshum nuentoter: For Debian, yes, I believe Wheezy has been better tested by different folks who use Debian.
23:16 bshum I personally use Ubuntu primarily.  So I'll caveat that I've only lightly tested Debians.
23:16 bshum Though I know others can speak for Debian
23:17 nuentoter most of my linux experience up until now has only been for very basic things on someones computer running crunchbang which is slick but technical
23:17 nuentoter i used ubuntu for a few years about 6-7 years ago for work
23:25 nuentoter ok so tonight i shall download wheezy and resume working on installing of jessie after you folks update

Results for 2015-05-07

10:45 kmlussier Ah, I forgot about that bug.
10:46 bshum kmlussier: These bugs haunt my dreams.
10:46 jwoodard NTLC aka North Texas Library Consortium in case everyone cannot read my mind or auto guess acronyms ;)
10:46 bshum jwoodard: I've had some passing familiarity with NTLC ;)
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10:56 bshum jwoodard: So my recommendation is to mention the issue up your chain of support, and see if they can test your bib/item and see if there are problems with the reingest on that record.
10:57 bshum Something like: SELECT COUNT(*) FROM biblio.record_entry WHERE deleted = FALSE AND id NOT IN (SELECT source FROM metabib.record_attr_vector_list);
10:57 bshum Would tell you how many bibs (which are not deleted) do not have a proper corresponding metabib.record_attr_vector_list entry
10:58 bshum I just ran that on our systems and came up with 13 bibs, which makes me a little sad.
10:58 csharp yay! 0 in PINES
10:59 * csharp fully expected to see more than 0
10:59 bshum csharp: Amazing!
11:02 bshum In case you wanted the exact bib IDs for those missing entries
11:02 mmorgan bshum++
11:03 bshum mmorgan: Yeah, if you follow rjackson_isl's steps in his comment on that bug for a post-2.6 system, you can repair those missing entries.
11:03 berick csharp: have you done any additional testing on EDI since your last comments in bug #1342227 ?
11:03 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1342227 in Evergreen "Setting up EDI Fails with Ruby version > 1.8" (affected: 2, heat: 14) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342227
11:04 jwoodard bshum: Already sent an email. Proper training and database access are one of the many thing on my list of things to accomplish.
11:04 jwoodard bshum++  kmlussier++
11:15 jeff but i think it's pretty rare. we have two.
11:16 * bshum thanksfully has 0
11:16 bshum And I'll go back to blissfully not thinking about billing weirdness.
11:17 csharp berick: no - I didn't put together a good way to test on the stock EG master machine I was on
11:17 csharp berick: I was able to see the daemon running, though
11:18 mmorgan Whew! we have 0 for jeff's query :)
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11:20 csharp 0 for jeff's query here too

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