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Results for 2017-08-08

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09:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1669534 - OPAC hold request should not default to first SMS carrier - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f7deb92>
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10:33 gmcharlt csharp: I've made an updated branch for bug 1098685 if you'd care to test again
10:33 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1098685 in Evergreen "User can select SMS notify without providing a valid address" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098685
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10:51 csharp gmcharlt: trying to test - I think I'm fighting cache but it's still not working for me
10:52 csharp I copied the files from your last commit into place and started testing - if there's something else I need, let me know
10:52 gmcharlt csharp: does view source show holds-validation.js being linked?
10:53 csharp hmm - no
10:53 csharp lemme verify that the files are actually there
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12:27 miker berick: are you handy?
12:27 berick miker: i am
12:27 miker and have time to maybe look at why some karma tests hate me?
12:27 miker :)
12:29 kmlussier Gee, I wonder what prompted that question. :)
12:29 berick heh
12:29 berick miker: point me at it
12:33 miker ok, np
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12:57 pastebot "berick" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "for miker -- karma config update for lovefield" (12 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/596
12:57 berick that fixes the tests for me
12:58 berick fyi, the services have to be loaded in a certain order, that's why it's not a simple services/*.js import
13:09 miker berick: bah ... thanks... I fixed a different test problem a week or so ago with that same thing. I should'a known
13:13 miker kmlussier: so, berick's fix is pushed to the offline branch
13:13 kmlussier miker: OK, I'll take a look when I have a moment.
13:19 kmlussier It would be nice if there were a way to identify words that should never be stemmed. Like 'kissinger.'
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14:59 Dyrcona sure
14:59 remingtron what value should I put in the "institution" variable?
14:59 Dyrcona Whatever you want. It isn't really used, IIRC.
15:00 remingtron I have two successful tests from 00sc_status.t, but test 3 fails with "Unable to connect to ILS..."
15:00 Dyrcona I never run those tests...
15:00 remingtron ha
15:00 Dyrcona And, I'm not sure that they work with a real ILS, just the dummy one that comes with SIPServer.
15:01 Dyrcona These are the SIPServer tests, right?
15:01 remingtron yes
15:01 remingtron so basically, a failure of those tests shouldn't concern me?
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15:03 Dyrcona Not in the least if you're talking to a real ILS.
15:03 Dyrcona The test that's failing uses a username of sip_01.
15:04 remingtron cool, thanks for calming my fears.
15:06 Dyrcona heh. it might even fail with the ILS.pm supposed to be used for testing.
15:09 Dyrcona Yeah, looks like it will just plain fail.
15:12 JBoyer remingtron, While you can use just about anything for an institution, it is (can be?) used to select different options for some SIPServer backend options in oils_sip.conf. We have one institution that needs that msg_64_barcode_something_something turned off and another where it's turned on.
15:13 Dyrcona Yeah. It will match up in the configs. I guess I sort of assumed.....

Results for 2017-08-07

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10:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Graham Billiau] LP#1704090: ensure make install respects DESTDIR - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=e88891b>
10:51 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "for feedback - is this in fact easier to understand?" (12 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/579
10:51 bshum gmcharlt: were not or may not?
10:51 gmcharlt bshum: in this context, definitely were not
15:32 * JBoyer feels a dufus because he forgot to disable transparent_hugepages on the db, explaining all manner of "random" slowdowns in otherwise simple Qs.
15:32 JBoyer Looked at an email csharp sent to the lists ages ago and was reminded.
16:09 csharp JBoyer: glad it was helpful :-)
16:24 Dyrcona jeff: Thought you might like to know that after I installed my branches for Lp 1542495 and Lp 1463943 my phpsip2 test script runs great. It was apparently a UTF-8 character causing it to crash.
16:24 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1542495 in SIPServer "OpenILS::SIP::clean_text() can crash" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1542495
16:24 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1463943 in SIPServer "Non-ascii Unicode characters in messages cause SIP client problems" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463943
16:25 gmcharlt Dyrcona: coordinates of that test script?
16:26 Dyrcona gmcharlt: It's not a test script that one could integrate into Evergreen, but I put it on pastebin. Let me check my logs.
16:26 gmcharlt Dyrcona: thanks!
16:27 Dyrcona gmcharlt: https://pastebin.com/5jm9m2h3
16:28 * gmcharlt claims 1049 in the name of the too few journal publishers who never, ever, ever change their titles everywhere!
16:29 Dyrcona It was written to test some SIP2 fine item details changes, but incidentally tests those branches as well. :)
16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:32 gmcharlt *cough*
16:32 gmcharlt I'll deal with that test failure
16:33 Dyrcona :)
16:33 Dyrcona It doesn't look too bad.
16:33 gmcharlt yeah, easy-peasy

Results for 2017-08-06

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20:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1684126: copy images used by staff portal outside of /xul/ - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=de82391>
20:21 bshum Hmm, maybe should try installing the latest nodejs LTS binary, 6.11.2 (our makefile installs 6.10.1 for Wheezy/Trusty, but perhaps we should bump these up occasionally)
20:21 * bshum will test that on his next Stretch build tests

Results for 2017-08-05

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Results for 2017-08-04

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16:25 gmcharlt The tracking page for next week's feedback fest is ready - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:3.0:feedback_fest_2
16:26 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
16:28 abneiman gmcharlt++
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Results for 2017-08-03

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14:35 ohiojoe and it looks like Jane and I will follow on the in-progress then?
14:37 ohiojoe #action sandbergja and ohiojoe will follow-up with assigned "in-progress" users to try to preserve any progress made but not submitted
14:38 ohiojoe #topic Progress on Docs Reorganization project
14:38 sandbergja I would love some guidance here!
14:39 sandbergja I'd like to gather some feedback on the reorganized manuals on the test server
14:39 sandbergja What's the best way of going about the feedback gathering, do you think?
14:42 kmlussier sandbergja: Have you sent out anything to one of the lists (docs or general) showing the changes you've made?
14:42 kmlussier I feel like you have, but I'm not finding it.
14:43 sandbergja kmlussier: I thought so too, but it looks like I haven't
14:43 sandbergja ohiojoe: could you put that down as an action item for me, please?
14:44 ohiojoe #action sandbergja will email one or more lists seeking feedback on reorganized manuals on the test server
14:44 kmlussier sandbergja: If you don't get much feedback via the list, it might be worth scheduling another meeting focused on the reorg project.
14:44 kmlussier But it would be good to see if you can get good discussion on the list first.
14:45 sandbergja sounds like a plan
14:45 kmlussier For reference:
14:45 kmlussier #link http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org/
14:45 ohiojoe any other thoughts here before we move on?
14:46 ohiojoe #topic Progress on documentation launchpad bugs
14:48 kmlussier #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergr​een/+bugs?field.tag=documentation
16:06 jeffdavis Dyrcona: do you mean having generic (rather than Sitka specific) access to that environment for EG devs?
16:06 jeffdavis Or just in general?
16:13 Dyrcona I'm not sure. I requested Patron Authentication API and they responded about using their integration envoronment.
16:14 Dyrcona They said, "We are currently speaking with an Evergreen contributor and have not been able to set up a test environment."
16:14 Dyrcona Among other things.
16:30 jeffdavis They must mean me. I requested access to their integration environment for Sitka (not for the broader EG community) - looks like they didn't receive part of my request and followed up while I was on vacation.
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16:47 jeffdavis Dyrcona: I sent them a follow up attempting to explain that my access to their API doesn't preclude others'.
16:55 Dyrcona jeffdavis: OK. I'm going to discuss it with others here to see where our priorities are. I don't think i really have time for it right now.

Results for 2017-08-02

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:18 Dyrcona berick: How do you top it after the duration without losing the transaction? I should probably look that up, instead.... ;)
10:19 berick Dyrcona: each chunk of months is its own transaction.  the sql runs to completion each time, then the calling script checks to see if it should start another one.
10:19 Dyrcona Oh. I see. Thanks.
10:20 Dyrcona I should test this on my new hardware, but we're putting it in production on the 20th, so it may not finish by then.
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10:23 berick hm, so we have a custom circ purge script.  it has less (unused locally) logic.  it's diverged enough from stock I don't have a functional diff to share.  but the gist is only work on circs whose xact_finish value falls between start_time and end_time, those being new function params.
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15:49 jeffdavis I'm a bit hesitant about that change.
15:49 miker gmcharlt: how about, "a NEW security issue"
15:49 JBoyer It would also allow some older bugs to age out with an official WontFix status rather than a defacto one.
15:50 jeffdavis Just because we've been testing the web client and finding things that are showstoppers for us in 2.12ish. So making 3.0 the cutoff seems a bit short.
15:50 berick miker: heh, good point, "xul is old, needs update" ;)
15:50 Dyrcona "Xul's dead."
15:50 gmcharlt jeffdavis: yeah, those are things that need to be addressed, hopefully in time for 3.0.0
16:07 JBoyer How far is less close?
16:07 miker (pros: better support, more consistent UIs; cons: more JS to download)
16:07 JBoyer (for those of us only now seeing it)
16:07 Dyrcona No. I assume you're also looking for willing victims...er test subjects.
16:07 miker JBoyer: zero-padding differences
16:08 miker mainly
16:08 JBoyer Hmm.
16:13 berick this should be simple, do we want to wait until after 3.0 to update from angular 1.5 to 1.6 (bug #1680140) ?
16:13 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1680140 in Evergreen "Update staff JS dependencies for Angular 1.6" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680140
16:14 gmcharlt berick: I'm inclined to defer that decision to the week of 28 August
16:14 berick i ask becuase any time we muck about in the js, espeically the deps it means re-testing, rebasing, etc.
16:14 Dyrcona Given your comments from today, I'd say wait.
16:14 gmcharlt i.e., give a try before the beta gets cut
16:15 gmcharlt not that I'm particuarly opposed to waiting until after 3.0... but given our experience with Dojo, I think there's a strong argument to be made that we should get used to biting the version treadmill bullet
16:16 berick i'll add a note to the bug about revisiting
16:16 gmcharlt ok
16:16 gmcharlt so then, finally, back to miker about offline
16:17 miker Really, I just want to get input on the serviceworker setup in use, and ask for testing
16:17 csharp @band add The Version Treadmill Bullet
16:17 pinesol_green csharp: Band 'The Version Treadmill Bullet' added to list
16:17 miker we're using UpUp currently
16:19 miker the branch is at http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/head​s/user/miker/lp-1706107-offline-mode
16:19 miker LP at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1706107
16:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1706107 in Evergreen "Offline mode for the Web Client" [Undecided,New]
16:20 kmlussier I've already done a fair amount of testing and could probably add a signoff sometime soon. I probably would want to load it on a local test server just to make sure it still works as I remember.
16:20 JBoyer I'm +1 to using the simplest thing that will work, though I've not been able to test that branch yet.
16:20 kmlussier miker: Are we losing anything by not using the whole serviceworker framework?
16:20 miker kmlussier: complication? ;)
16:21 miker seriously, not that I can see
16:21 miker that is /all/ upup tries to do
16:21 miker and, now that it's all set up, it seems to do well
16:22 berick ditto JBoyer
16:22 miker kmlussier: when testing the new separate branch (was embedded in serials before) we'll need to watch for new 404s during offline mode
16:23 miker one key thing is that upup has to know about (and cache) every single resource that the offline interface references, either directly or indirectily, via css include or xhr also
16:24 miker for instance, I had to install the woff2 version of the bootstrap font because, even though we don't use it, it's requested by the css
16:24 miker and causes a load failure in the offline UI if it can't be cached by the service worker
16:26 miker to sum up: this is a call for testing, and secondarily, a call for critique of the implementation
16:26 kmlussier ok, I'll try to carve time out for testing it. I think I know what to look for and how to break it if there are issues. :)
16:26 gmcharlt ok, and with that, we've reached the end
16:26 miker kmlussier: if anyone does ... ;)
16:26 miker thanks all
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16:32 berick miker: k, yeah, that's another one that would benefit from a quick merge once it's updated.
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17:37 Bmagic gmcharlt++

Results for 2017-08-01

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11:15 bshum Yes
11:16 bshum I'll check Debian docs to see if something's changed in this area...
11:16 Dyrcona I certainly hope not.
11:18 berick wonder if it would work after a reboot.  could also test by manually exporting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to see what happens.
11:19 Dyrcona I've been meaning to build a Debian 9 vm to kick the tires.
11:19 Dyrcona I may do that sooner rather than later.
11:20 bshum I'll try a reboot now
13:35 francisco_ Hi all, I have a question, Does the receipt template aditor are saved in an especific table in EG? or are saved locally on each machine? This because I upgraded from 2.8.4 to 2.12.3 and the templates looks like they were set to the default ones
13:36 Dyrcona francisco_: Receipts are stored in the staff client preferences. If you have the old staff client hanging around, you can export them. It has to be the staff client where they were created or imported, though.
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13:46 bshum systemctl start apache2@websockets.service
13:47 bshum (more notes to self)
13:48 bshum miker++ # your fix for perl 5.24 works for me on Debian 9 ; I'll let Graham eyeball it too, but I'll go pick it on later once I get to re-test it on lower versions
13:51 Dyrcona bshum: You see where sytemd won the pwnie award for "worst vendor?" Mainly 'cause Lennaert.
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16:33 gsams_ A little while back I had an issue regarding not being able to pull up the patron editor properly for a handful of patrons, which was fixed by removing some incorrect information in those patrons' sms notify fields.
16:33 gsams_ I'm having a slightly different issue with the same set of patrons, in which we can't seem to place holds for them.
16:34 gsams_ It doesn't fill in their information when attempting to place a hold through the staff client, and the box that should contain their barcode is empty.

Results for 2017-07-31

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05:34 umarzuki after docker container running, how do I access demo page?
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12:50 miker arg
12:50 gmcharlt parameter!
12:51 miker so, dbwells, looks like I'll need to roll back at least the opensrf side of the interval_to_seconds change. after adding 2 unit tests covering month addition across DST boundary, we have a problem
12:52 miker it's not matching the PG calculation for interval math
12:52 miker it's better than "1 yr/12", but it's not giving the expected results...
12:56 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1635737: Unit tests for DST and date math - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=316f583>
13:04 egbuilder build #64 of osrf-master-debian-6.00-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/buildbot/buil​ders/osrf-master-debian-6.00-x86_64/builds/64  blamelist: Mike Rylander <mrylander@gmail.com>
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14:06 dbwells miker: Thanks for testing and agressively pushing!  Unfortunately, I think you hit a limitation of the date parser, or more accurately, ISO dates in general.  Bare offsets don't have DST rules, as areas with the same offset may or may not participate in DST.  To get the right DST math, you have to specify an actual region.  Let me cook up an example, one moment...
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14:07 dbwells miker: So, I think a test like this will return the expected number:  interval_to_seconds("1 month", DateTime::Format::ISO8601->new->pars​e_datetime("2017-02-14T23:59:59-04")​->set_time_zone("America/New_York"))
14:13 Dyrcona @blame tlp
14:13 pinesol_green Dyrcona: tlp stole bshum's tux doll!
14:16 dbwells I haven't thought through exactly how this plays out in practice, other than some annoying degree of vigilance.  For example, turns out my branch's current casual use of "DateTime-now()" isn't sufficient; it ends up as UTC :(
14:45 kmlussier Yes, I agree
14:46 miker dbwells: right. and, specifically, that branch sets the timezone for $due_date to the circulating org's TZ, rather than "local"
14:46 miker (well, when specified)
14:46 dbwells miker: Do you think it makes sense to push a change to the test, or do you still think it needs to be rolled back?
14:48 miker let me try your suggested test change...
14:49 miker yeah ... that does fix the test, actually
14:52 miker hrm... fake news. it does not do that at due-date calc time. instead it uses "local" which, with opensrf 2.5 is the client TZ ... it does set the tz properly when generating billings, which is what I was confused with
14:52 gmcharlt miker: wanting to double-check something - opensrf.persist is not actually used by Evergreen, correct?
14:53 gmcharlt (asking because it appears to be the only user within OpenSRF itself of of the interval-handing stuff in OpenSRF::Utils
14:53 miker however... just setting the tz to "local" in the test (which we should not do, because it's server-dependent) does let the tests pass. meaning it's pulling from the env, wihich is correct, short of looking up the circ lib tz
14:53 miker gmcharlt: correct, it's not in active use
14:54 miker so, to recap, I think the test was at fault, not the app code or the interval code.  here's why:
14:54 gmcharlt in that case, sort out the one use within opensrf.persist... and the time-handing stuff might be reasonably movable into Evergreen
14:56 miker the app code, in the the rule needs to be "set the timezone of the context date to a dst-aware value, lest the math not be dst aware"
14:57 miker we're doing that in the common case of apply_modified_due_date (no $start_time)
14:58 miker if we follow that rule, even using 'local' (aka, client TZ or server TZ if not sent) then the math works
14:58 miker ok... I'm feeling better about it now
15:00 miker gmcharlt: my pref, for the moment would be to leave the code where it is and address the functional issues. once addressed (if proven addressable, that is) then maybe move
15:02 gmcharlt "where it is" meaning reseting to the status quo ante by reverting, then allowing a bit more time for considered testing? we've got time prior to the next 2.12.x release
15:03 miker "where it is" meaning which project holds the interval_to_seconds code ;)
15:03 miker sorry
15:03 miker that wasn't clear
15:03 gmcharlt miker: right, I think we're talking about orthogonal things
15:04 miker anyway, there are 4 scenarios we need to test. with and without DST crossing, and for each, with and without DST-aware TZ
15:04 gmcharlt moving the time utility functions to Evergreen is something I have a mild preference for, but it's not a showstopper for anythign whatsoever
15:04 gmcharlt resetting things to the status quo ante is something I feel more strongly about
15:04 miker (btw, I was looking at the in-PG version also ... the reason it "works" there is that there's a hidden variable: the DB's (effective) timezone setting)
15:06 miker well, I have passing tests on the opensrf side now. how about we revert the EG side
15:09 gmcharlt I'd really prefer that the whole thing be tested as a unit, just in case we run into other issues
15:10 dbwells While I was a little surprised to see it pushed quickly, I guess I am not sure why we would revert code without any known problems.
15:10 miker dbwells: well, it didn't have tests (which I should have added)
15:11 miker and my first tests showed the EG side lacking (no tz set in 2 of 3 cases)... though, that's only now explicitly diagnosed
15:11 miker IOW, I should have known the rule we need (and made it so) before pushing
15:12 miker anyway, I'll go look up git-revert and do that, then push updated branches
15:12 gmcharlt miker: thanks
15:13 gmcharlt and generally speaking, I don't expect that there will be any problem getting this buttoned up prior to the next maintenance release
15:14 gmcharlt but code that involves time is an area where the more test coverage, the better
15:16 dbwells definitely agree
15:17 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Revert "LP#1635737 Use new OpenSRF interval_to_seconds() context" - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a54b18e>
15:17 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] Revert "LP#1635737: Unit tests for DST and date math" - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=0484c67>
15:17 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] Revert "LP#1635737 Add optional context to interval_to_seconds" - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=716b674>
15:24 egbuilder build #65 of osrf-master-debian-6.00-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/buildbot/buil​ders/osrf-master-debian-6.00-x86_64/builds/65
15:45 miker dbwells: hrm... is there a reason you removed the hh:mm:ss interval parsing from the evergreen-side patch?
15:45 miker fwiw, I'm tempted to /add/ that to the opensrf side
15:50 dbwells miker: It was already in the OpenSRF side.
15:50 miker dbwells: it sure was :)
15:50 * miker looked right past it
16:04 miker dbwells / gmcharlt: branches added
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16:52 gmcharlt the branch for patron search from the place holds form is now available for review - bug 1701001
16:52 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1701001 in Evergreen "Allow searching for a patron from place holds page in embedded OPAC" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1701001

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09:55 Dyrcona Well, it gets complicated when you start dealing with money.
09:55 Dyrcona You might think "it's only math," but you'd be mistaken. :)
09:56 Dyrcona It's easy to mess up, and boy, don't people get mad when you do. :)
09:56 rjackson_isl test plans and reviews are your friend in this case
09:57 berick rjackson_isl: there are 2 parts, the collection agency tracker (money.collections_tracker IIRC) and penalty.  the penalty can be locally cleared when the threshold goes back down, but the agency has to clear the collection_tracker entry
09:58 rjackson_isl berick: in the instance currently being reviewed there is a note on the account showing it going into collections and then back out when I did the oops
09:58 rjackson_isl it doesn't show going back into collections in the note when I corrected (or partially corrected)
10:20 miker rjackson_isl: yeah ... there are a ton of things that could be stopping patrons from falling back into collections, if that's the goal. if it's UMS you're working with, they'll be as helpful with diagnostics as they can be, I'm sure
10:20 rjackson_isl mikre: I think the library is in direct contact on their side so I am going to stay out of this fight unless forced to join!
10:20 rjackson_isl miker: that is...
10:20 * Dyrcona shuts up and goes back to checking if his test db server has finished rebooting.
10:30 Dyrcona On a somewhat related note, I've been having trouble finding patrons that return fine item details with SIP2.
10:30 jeff Oh?
10:30 Dyrcona I'll have to look into because apparently the code isn't doing what I think it does.
10:32 Dyrcona Having a million other things to do and a vacation in between doesn't help.
10:35 Dyrcona It supposedly works with contrived examples in the Concerto data, i.e. after adding a fine to a patron.
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10:37 jeff there have been issues in the past with regard to some SIP code using a different mat view (old money owed summaries, iirc), and there were gotchas with auth tokens and/or multiplex personality, but i think most of the ones that would affect this have been addressed.
10:38 jeff Dyrcona: i'm interested in what you find and might be able to help troubleshoot, but nothing immediately comes to mind for you to try.
10:38 jeff Dyrcona: what client are you testing with, and have you checked the raw sip message either over the wire or in the server logs to verify that the client isn't obscuring / mis-parsing the fixed field in question?
10:39 Dyrcona I'm using branches based on Evergreen 2.12.3 and SIPServer master with a copy of production data.
10:39 Dyrcona jeff: PHPSIP2, and yes, I've dumped the raw messages. I'm not getting the results that I expect.
10:40 Dyrcona If I ask for 10 fine item details, I get 10 empty fields on every patron.
10:43 Dyrcona I get 0 for every patron.
10:43 jeff and at that point, they were all 0? ah.
10:43 Dyrcona Even after running the fine generator.
10:44 Dyrcona Since I haven't tested with unmodified code, I don't know what's broke. :)
10:44 jeff if you reduce it to one patron with bills that is showing a count of 0 fine items via SIP2, if you open the patron in the staff client and Refresh them, does that then change the fine items count in SIP2?
10:45 Dyrcona I haven't tried that.
10:48 jeff Does the Evergreen user that the SIPServer is authenticating as have VIEW_USER_TRANSACTIONS permission at the proper ou/depth?
10:53 jeff ...even if you get the facts such so that the patrons will match the criteria to be submitted, starting the submission / collections process fresh is likely a Bad Idea. There isn't a way to put them "back where they were" in the collections process without involving your collections vendor and having careful coordination.
10:54 rjackson_isl messing with money is a bad idea - but I was out-voted!
10:54 jeff rjackson_isl: you're welcome :-)
10:55 Dyrcona jeff thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to rebuild my test vm and give i another whirl.
10:55 Dyrcona s/i/it/
10:56 jeff Dyrcona: it could be as simple as that, then.
10:56 * jeff finds things he wants to change
16:20 mmorgan jeff: this happens a lot in our consortium.
16:20 mmorgan Similarly, if all copies become long overdue when there are still holds to be filled.
16:22 mmorgan We generate and post a "Hopeless Holds" report daily.
16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:44 abneiman jeff: when I was at KCPL we did a weekly "Hopeless Holds" report -- based on a version that NC Cardinal did.  It let us know when the amount of targetable copies dropped to 0 (lost, missing, claimed returned, etc) on titles with holds.  Interacted a little wonkily with metarecord holds, IIRC, but it got the job done.
16:46 mmorgan Ours only looks at title holds, so, not perfect, but also gets the job done (mostly).
16:46 abneiman jeff: see slide 22 of this presentation:  https://evergreen-ils.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/​11/eg16-Oops-I-accidentally-deleted-something-and-​other-small-problems-bite-sized-reports-to-help-yo​u-find-and-fix-problems-in-your-ILS.compressed.pdf

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06:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Release notes for 2.11.7 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c4d9cb3>
06:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: 2.12.4 Release Notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d83dc5e>
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13:47 kmlussier One reason we started to link the two problems (if they are indeed linked) is because mmorgan was also noticing in the logs for the one-hit problems that it seemed to be running through mr routines even though they weren't mr searches.
13:48 miker yeah, that's strange ... looking for the one-hit entry now
13:48 * kmlussier runs out for a bit to grab lunch.
13:57 miker hrm ... the timelog on the LP ticket does not seem to match what's actually in the rel_2_12 codebase... the strings are different
14:10 miker scratch that... the log is from the record loading page, not the search loading page
14:11 miker slowdown seems to happen in open-ils.search.multi_home.bib_ids.by_barcode
14:12 miker which, in this case, makes to cstore calls: one to look up the copy by barcode, and a followup to retrieve the peer bibs for the copy
14:18 miker if, for some reason, there was an error in the first cstore call (say, no barcode passed because of a failure in a preceding call, returning an error or "0" instead of a list of copies) I could see something like this happening
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14:37 miker kmlussier: btw, the reason the bottom of the timelog on the test has the unapi.mmr stuff is for linking to other constituent records
14:42 kmlussier miker: That makes sense.  I'm beginning the think they may be different issues after all.
14:43 miker well... we don't have a log for the metarecord 1-hit issue, but I bet it's essentially the same. and all signs in that timelog point to open-ils.search.multi_home.bib_ids.by_barcode
14:47 * kmlussier could easily supply a log for that issue if it's helpful.
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15:04 miker happy to :)
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10:05 Dyrcona Results of my testing are so far mixed. Read only seems to be highly connection-dependent.
10:05 Dyrcona Oddly, at 40 connections, the read only test performed 0.9% worse with ht on, but at 80 connections the results were 7.5% better with ht on.
10:08 * Dyrcona has no idea what the margin of error would be.....
10:08 miker Dyrcona: HT with PG is pretty dependent on both PG version and the on-die caches, fwiw
10:08 miker size of the caches, obv
10:08 Dyrcona miker: Yep, I'm aware of that.
10:09 miker and the shape of the workload, of course. I'm interested in the deets, btw :)
10:09 Dyrcona It's the same machine so same hardware and pg version between tests.
10:09 miker I figured it was the same machine, more just curious about the details
10:10 Dyrcona I also rebooted before starting each test run, initalized the pg bench tables each time, and haven't messed with cache deliberately.
10:10 Dyrcona I'll share the details later.
10:10 Dyrcona The hardware is kind of insane. :)
10:11 Dyrcona It will be a couple of hours, maybe tomorrow, before I can share.
10:12 Dyrcona I'm just starting the read/write tests with ht off.
10:12 Freddy_Enrique @coffee anyone
10:12 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Yirga Cheffe Koke Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to anyone
10:13 Dyrcona Also, I'm using ZFS just because. :)
10:27 miker Dyrcona++ # TIA
11:11 jonadab I have heard good things about zfs.
11:12 Dyrcona miker: My simple testing shows a boost with HT on with Pg 9.5: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dU8iwKVBHt​PrOjULBe3oFnFxaB1tqT9T7Gxu740t6kM/edit?usp=sharing
11:13 Dyrcona I'll write something up about what I did and the hardware specs in a bit.
11:13 Dyrcona jonadab: Yeah, ZFS has been great so far. Very simple to set up on the NVMe drives. :)
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16:56 berick not seeing anything, but I've not-seen things before
16:57 Bmagic not that I have seen
16:58 Bmagic The basic bucket interface has a tab where you can search.... but it's not the same
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10:17 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1670448: Rearrange space for bib record action buttons - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bb05739>
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12:57 bshum Good luck bos20k
12:57 bos20k Thanks!
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13:03 mmorgan bos20k: Here's what made the "Email checkout receipts by default?" disappear from the patron editor on a test system:
13:04 mmorgan In the "Email Checkout Receipt" Action trigger...
13:04 mmorgan Blank the Opt-In Setting Type field.
13:04 mmorgan and save the trigger.
13:05 csharp mmorgan++
13:05 bos20k That makes sense based on the code I'm looking at in register.js
13:05 bos20k mmorgan++
13:14 kmlussier abneiman: Thanks!
13:27 bos20k Hmmm, it didn't work. I set the opt_in_setting to NULL in the database for the Email Checkout Receipt action trigger and also disabled it. Still shows in the patron edit/reg screens.
13:31 Dyrcona bos20k: You quit the client and sign in again after?
13:31 bos20k Dyrcona: yup. restarted EG on the test system too.
13:31 bos20k Cleared the cache as well.
13:33 mmorgan bos20k: Hmm. Close out and login again? I made the change in the client and no logout or cache clearing was necessary.
13:33 Dyrcona Well, the trigger would have nothing to do with the client view. I'm not sure if the opt-in setting does either. I'd have to check.
13:35 * mmorgan is working on 2.12 FWIW.
13:40 kmlussier I just followed mmorgan's steps on the 2.12.3 MassLNC demo server and was able to remove the setting from the patron registration form.
13:41 bos20k Are you editing the action trigger in the database directly or somewhere else?  When I was looking at the action trigger in the staff client I didn't see where to remove the Opt-In Setting Type
13:42 bos20k So I did what I thought was correct in the database directly.
13:42 * mmorgan just tested on a couple of other opt in triggers. It looks like Enabled needs to be unchecked and the opt-in setting type needs to be NULL.
13:43 mmorgan I edited the action trigger under Admin - Local - Notifications/Action triggers.
13:44 mmorgan the Opt-In Setting Type dropdown is 3 fields above the template. I selected and deleted the text in the Opt-In Setting Type field and saved.
13:45 mmorgan When I next loaded a clean patron registration form, the preference did not display.
13:46 kmlussier I was editing in the staff client too.
13:47 bos20k I had forgotten about the need to double click on the action trigger instead of the link... I hate that.
13:48 mmorgan Oh, yes, been there, done that, too :)
16:21 mmorgan So if my patron places a hold on Friday night, targeting my library's copy, and my library is closed on Saturday and Sunday, is it likely, or possible that when my patron's hold is retargeted on Sunday evening, that it will choose my library's copy again?
16:22 mmorgan And yeah, yay holds!
16:23 mmorgan We're targeting when closed if the copy and pickup lib match.
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16:37 kmlussier abneiman++
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10:37 gsams Dyrcona: Would that persist if the accounts were unlinked?
10:38 Dyrcona gsams: No idea, 'cause I don't really know what the problem is, just speculating.
10:38 Dyrcona We don't have any linked accounts, AFAIK.
10:38 gsams Dyrcona: Fair enough!  I've not seen this before, and nothing looks out of place.  I did test that idea and it does still persist.
10:38 jeff gsams: javascript console errors would be helpful. you might find them easier to access from a browser, by logging into the opac as a staff member then loading https://example.com/eg/actor/user/register?usr=123 where example.com is your evergreen staff server hostname and 123 is the internal / database id of a problem user.
10:39 gsams jeff:  I'll give that a shot, thanks!
10:39 Dyrcona You can also clear the staff client console before opening one of the patrons.
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11:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1673857: interface for applying tags from copy buckets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e2f42ec>
11:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1673857: some test cases - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=75513a2>
11:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1673857: release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3709094>
11:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP#1673857: Disable browser autocomplete for tag entry - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e23a6a>
11:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1673857: stamp schema update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fc9af0e>
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15:30 kmlussier Dyrcona++
15:41 kmlussier OK, I think that's my cue to stop merging code for the day.
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12:08 Freddy_Enrique ariez102: you still there?
12:09 Freddy_Enrique I'd really recommend you to come from mondays to fridays, weekends tend to be really quite around here
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04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:29 dbs weird, getting [ERR :7882:oils_sql.c:865:] open-ils.cstore: Error setting timezone American/Toronto"
10:16 csharp terran++
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11:01 abneiman terran++ everyone_else++  I'm doing the easy part.... :)
11:26 kmlussier http://docs.evergreen-ils.​org/2.12/_logging_out.html "Exiting the browser will not log you out of the web client."
11:26 kmlussier In my testing, exiting the browser will log you out. I believe this might be outdated information. Can anyone confirm my belief before I remove it from the docs?
11:29 kmlussier Ha ha. I'm glad to see somebody noticed my killtheblob tag from the other day. https://twitter.com/Evergreen​ILS/status/888379164650242048
11:30 terran kmlussier: I just tested, and exiting the browser logged me out fine.
11:30 terran killtheblob++
11:31 kmlussier terran: Thanks!
12:00 stompro Good morning, can anyone explain the difference between the /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml and the /openils/var/web/reports/fm_IDL.xml ?  I assumed that the second one was only for reports, but based on my testing that doesn't seem to be the case.
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12:33 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1705731: background batch MARC edits now report status less verbosely - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=12e8af8>
16:17 jonadab Err, in the context, not in the quote itself, obviously.
16:21 berick i'm really just distracting you all from my failing domestic policies
16:25 rhamby dbwells: I'm going to assume I was very clever.
16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:32 dbwells rhamby: indubitably!
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18:12 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1689656 Add test for manual adjustment of negative balance - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=702b196>
18:12 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jeff Davis] LP#1689656: Adjust to zero on negative balance - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=40f820c>

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