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News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-02-01T04:59:57,371382073-0500 -0> |
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terran |
berick++ |
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mmorgan |
Oh yeah, berick++ |
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csharp |
having trouble getting websocketd working on my master test server - does anyone know where websocketd logs by default (running as opensrf behind an nginx proxy) |
14:53 |
csharp |
apache2-websockets was working fine before - I've changed nothing in nginx or apache |
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Dyrcona |
csharp: It logs to the console, so you'll have to redirect it. |
14:55 |
csharp |
oh -hmm |
14:59 |
Dyrcona |
Well, it can be https... See my previous comment. :) |
15:00 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: makes sense - thanks |
15:00 |
berick |
yeah, https def. works |
15:00 |
jammin |
Howdy... going nuts while testing some stuff. In what sort of scenario might some libraries (such as osrf_math.so) in /openils/lib not be found, while others (such as libopensrf.so) are? |
15:00 |
csharp |
jammin: try (as root) 'ldconfig' |
15:00 |
Dyrcona |
The options are --sslcert=/path/to/cert --sslkey=/path/to/key |
15:01 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: awesome - thank you |
15:15 |
csharp |
cool |
15:15 |
* Dyrcona |
has been running websocketd in production since October. I backported the OpenSRF patches. |
15:15 |
csharp |
ok - awesome |
15:15 |
berick |
we just have it on a test cluster now. no issues. |
15:15 |
csharp |
that's my next step - get it running in a cluster |
15:15 |
csharp |
and build it into our cluster-install scripts |
15:16 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: thanks, yeah, that looks like what I'm hitting. I've got 3.0.0 on there now, still does it, but haven't touched my config yet... heading there now |
15:26 |
Dyrcona |
jammin: If you've installed Evergreen, you'll need to upgrade to Evergreen 3.0, also. |
15:26 |
csharp |
so is OpenSRF 3.1 good for EG 3.2? |
15:27 |
* Dyrcona |
has been using master, but I think so, csharp. |
15:27 |
Dyrcona |
i.e. in my testing of 3.2 |
15:28 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: at one point I was doing LD_DEBUG and saw it looking right at the right lib file, but it skipped right on to the next path... I said "whaaa?" :) |
15:28 |
Dyrcona |
jammin: It's because of changes in GCC 6. |
15:28 |
gsams |
csharp: Supposedly we are running OpenSRF 3.1 on EG 3.2.3 right now. |
15:28 |
Dyrcona |
Rereading the bug history refreshed my memory. |
15:30 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: got it, thanks. my actual target here is EG 3.1.2, so yeah will be doing that |
15:31 |
Dyrcona |
jammin: I think OpenSRF 3.1 should work for you, too. Might as well go with the latest and greatest. :) |
15:31 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: was testing upgrade to stretch before upgrading to 3.1.2. I guess the result is "don't" |
15:31 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
15:32 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: so opensrf 3.1 good to go for eg 3.1.2, then? |
15:33 |
Dyrcona |
I don't know of any incompatibilities. |
15:33 |
Dyrcona |
I've kind of skipped Evergreen 3.1 in my testing, though, so take that with a teaspoon of salt. |
15:34 |
* csharp |
chokes down a teaspoon of salt |
15:34 |
Dyrcona |
I think 3.1 works with 3.0 also.... At least parts of it do, because I backported some patches to our production servers. |
15:34 |
jammin |
Will know in a bit, gonna take a break, roll the vm back, and give it a go |
15:36 |
gsams |
csharp, Dyrcona: having literally just updated this week it's been incredibly smooth. |
15:36 |
Dyrcona |
Our members are making use of the web client in 3.0. |
15:36 |
csharp |
gsams: awesome |
15:36 |
jammin |
Our production is 3.1.2 on opensrf 3.0.1, I'm messing around with the test server while bringing it up to speed |
15:36 |
Dyrcona |
My testing looks like the upgrade will be straightforward. |
15:36 |
gsams |
If I can get the dymo hatch printer fix in place I'll be all set I think. |
15:36 |
csharp |
we expected more outcry from libraries who hadn't made the transition from circ yet |
15:37 |
jammin |
I need to get our RFID stuff playing nicely with the web client before can move up to 3.2 |
15:37 |
* csharp |
has to run pick up the teenager |
15:37 |
Dyrcona |
jammin: When it comes to upgrading the O/S on VMs, I usually don't. I just build a new VM, but I assume you wanted to test because you plan to upgrade production hardware? |
15:40 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: Not sure which way I'm going to go about it yet... rebuild VMs and fresh install, or dist-upgrade and EG upgrade. Figured either way, I should figure out how to "make it work". |
15:41 |
jammin |
Dyrcona: If I can fix a worst case, the easy cases will be that much easier. :) |
15:41 |
Dyrcona |
Yes. :) |
15:51 |
jammin |
I'm interested in moving up to debian-buster. Am I inviting similar library insanity? |
15:51 |
Dyrcona |
Probably not, but I don't think anyone has worked out the prerequisites for buster, yet. |
15:53 |
Dyrcona |
jammin: If you'd like to do that, feel free. Patches welcome! :) |
15:53 |
jeff |
Do not use unreleased testing versions of Linux distributions for production. :-) |
15:54 |
jammin |
I'm thinking I'll finish getting this thing going on stretch & 3.1.2 like I'm supposed to. Then take another snapshot, then see how buster goes... just because. |
15:55 |
Dyrcona |
It should be OK to start testing with buster, soon. The full freeze is supposed to happen in March. |
15:55 |
jeff |
Testing with buster and reporting issues is a useful thing, and appreciated. |
15:55 |
jeff |
But don't run it in production. :-) |
15:55 |
jammin |
No, not on production! But hey, Debian testing (in soft freeze, or close to it) isn't your average unreleased testing version. :) |
15:56 |
* jeff |
nods |
16:26 |
sandbergja |
Quick indexing question: In this doc, it says that it's required to do a "service restart" after making changes to Administration > Server > MARC Search/Facet Fields (metabib fields): http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/dev/_virtual_index_definitions.html |
16:26 |
sandbergja |
Which services exactly need to be restarted? |
16:49 |
Bmagic |
I've got a sample set of commands around somewhere |
16:50 |
pastebot |
"Bmagic" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "restarting services" (32 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/14398 |
16:51 |
sandbergja |
Oh, cool! Thanks! |
17:00 |
pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-02-01T16:58:45,062820692-0500 -0> |
17:14 |
csharp |
opensrf 3.1.0 and websocketd are now running on our 3.2.3 test server |
17:14 |
csharp |
all seems fine so far |
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Bmagic |
csharp++ |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-01-31T04:57:55,332522187-0500 -0> |
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JBoyer |
gsams, were you following the build steps in Hatch/installer/windows/README.adoc ? Hatch for Windows has a 2-step build process that involves building the /lib directory and filling it with .jar's, then building the installer with makensis. |
10:49 |
gsams |
I've got JDK 1.8.0_201, I'm trying to build it on Windows as that is what I have to work with here, though I do have a laptop at home I could probably get it done faster on. |
10:49 |
gsams |
I'm also kind of new to this, so I may very well be doing something wrong. |
10:53 |
berick |
gsams: any reason you're not using the windows installer? |
10:53 |
gsams |
berick: Trying to test the firefox branch |
10:53 |
berick |
ah |
10:54 |
JBoyer |
if you just open cmd and type java what happens? There have been irritations with the java path. |
10:54 |
berick |
gsams: the installer (and linux compile step) fetch a json library and put it into the lib dir |
10:55 |
berick |
you'll have to manually fetch that |
10:55 |
berick |
the docs assume windows builds use the installer, so it's not mentioned |
10:55 |
berick |
and the linux script does it for you |
10:56 |
JBoyer |
Hey, that would be the part I was not paying attention to. (I built it in Ubuntu on Windows 10 and cp'd it to my desktop to test) |
10:56 |
gsams |
ha, that makes a ton of sense. Now I know why I had it the first run now. |
10:56 |
berick |
gsams: you may want to just use the windows installer |
10:57 |
berick |
and then rebuild the java bits using the updated code |
10:57 |
berick |
the insatller does more than just build the java |
10:58 |
berick |
the windows registry changes being the most irksome |
10:59 |
JBoyer |
berick, gsams, the java bits aren't what needs testing, FF support is specifically broken by hatch.bat. (so the easy way to test this gsams, would be install the hatch you can download now and cp hatch.bat from my branch over the one in C:\ProgramFiles (8x6)\Hatch\) |
10:59 |
gsams |
JBoyer: I can do that |
10:59 |
berick |
ah, even easier |
10:59 |
JBoyer |
I haven't touched Java since college and haven't gotten so brave as to try messing with anything in there. |
13:13 |
jeff |
so it's nice that it turns out the flight recorder was running during the event. |
13:14 |
jeff |
and now we're just following its homing beacon to the backup repository containing the data from before it rotated out of the 48 hour cicrular buffer :-) |
13:34 |
JBoyer |
I can't tell which parts of that are for real and which parts are Grisham novel. This SIP message gets around but was in the wrong place at the wrong time and now it's an international incident. |
13:37 |
jeff |
I'm just being silly, it seems: we had a problem on Jan 15 for which we've been unable to create an isolated test case / reproduction. pcap logs of SIP2 traffic would be useful, and exist, but have rotated out of the circular dumpcap buffer. backup retention for the VM in question goes back far enough that we should be able to get the pcap data from there. |
13:40 |
JBoyer |
jeff++ # on the case. |
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Dyrcona |
So, I'm getting this 2019-01-31 14:11:42 bh5 osrf_json_gw: [INFO:7428:osrf_app_session.c:394:154896183174287] Returning NULL from app_request_recv after timeout: open-ils.actor.patron.settings.retrieve ["redacted",1698794] in the logs for 3 users. So far, nothing looks off about their settings. |
16:42 |
gsams |
berick: you got it |
16:48 |
gsams |
berick: Hopefully that was enough info, but done. |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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mmorgan |
gsams++ |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-01-30T04:57:51,949378057-0500 -0> |
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dickreckard |
hello.. I have a question about a swollen database.. |
06:53 |
dickreckard |
I have run a few commands from the postgresql interface, to fix some mess with character encoding that happened during migration.. |
06:53 |
dickreckard |
they were UPDATEs with search and REPLACE on the whole biblio.record_entry ... |
11:08 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of Panama El Burro Estate, and sends it sliding down the bar to csharp (quickly) |
11:09 |
mmorgan |
csharp: That needs to be on a t-shirt. |
11:09 |
csharp |
berick++ # saving lives |
11:25 |
gsams |
Does hatch for firefox need any testing still? I'd like to try it out if it's in a state for that. |
11:26 |
dickreckard |
csharp: thanks a lot, vacuuming and cleaning up the record_history worked |
11:26 |
dickreckard |
csharp++ |
11:27 |
dickreckard |
another thing I encountered though, is there a way to cleanup the metabib.browse_entry? it seem to keep the entries for each modification of a record.. |
12:21 |
berick |
yeah |
12:23 |
JBoyer |
Hmm. except my normal build also calls npm update. Not sure why that didn't catch it earlier. :/ |
12:25 |
JBoyer |
And now it's complaining about jasmine. I guess I'll keep looking. |
12:26 |
berick |
i'm testing some hard-coded versions |
12:27 |
berick |
related, we really need to merge bug 1801984 sooner than later |
12:27 |
JBoyer |
bot is letting us down. |
12:28 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1801984 in Evergreen "Transition to Angular version 7." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801984 |
12:28 |
JBoyer |
Ah. |
12:50 |
* csharp |
gets frustrated when the solution to a nodejs problem is "downgrade npm" |
12:50 |
JBoyer |
No, I thought "maybe the Angular 7 compiler will like this code more." Then I uninstalled it and now I'm blowing away everything and starting from scratch. |
12:51 |
csharp |
I had that issue when building the Linux client for Google Music Desktop Player |
12:51 |
JBoyer |
berick, when you have time to rebase that branch I will test it asap. |
12:52 |
berick |
JBoyer: doing so now. and after a rebuild, errors are clear |
12:54 |
berick |
JBoyer: LP updated |
12:54 |
JBoyer |
berick++ |
12:56 |
gsams |
JBoyer: Ah, yes I think I see what I was doing wrong. I misunderstood the readme. |
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Dyrcona |
berick: What is your threshold for merging Ang 7 into master? |
13:11 |
berick |
Dyrcona: threshold? |
13:11 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, like how many signoffs, how many tests, etc.? |
13:12 |
berick |
oh, i don't see it as any different than a feature merge. (though it's almost a bug fix merge at this point). as long as the existing tests pass (they do) then I think the tests are covered. |
13:13 |
berick |
it doesn't introduce new code, mostly just changes to how we import certain libraries |
13:13 |
berick |
rxjs being the big upheaval |
13:13 |
berick |
oh, and, the UI should work ;) |
13:14 |
Dyrcona |
So, should it be backported to 3.2? |
13:14 |
berick |
maybe.. |
13:14 |
berick |
let me see if it merges/builds in 3.2 |
13:15 |
JBoyer |
That's basically what I'm doing now. :) I pulled it in to our locally customized rel_3_2 |
13:16 |
Dyrcona |
I was going to say that I could test it with rel_3_2. |
13:16 |
JBoyer |
And everything looks good so far. Almost ready to start with the clicky-clicky. |
13:16 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
13:16 |
berick |
Dyrcona: for 3.2 backport, an extra test/signoff would certainly be appreciated |
13:17 |
berick |
since we want to avoid disruption |
13:17 |
berick |
and we don't normally back-port version upgrades |
13:18 |
berick |
3.2 is working fine for me |
13:18 |
berick |
no big surprise, there's very little code deviation yet between master |
13:19 |
* berick |
updates LP |
13:19 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ JBoyer++ |
13:20 |
JBoyer |
Nice. |
13:20 |
JBoyer |
berick++ |
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gsams |
JBoyer: That appears to be the case in both browsers though, so I suspect that's my fault. I'll double back on it for the moment. |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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gsams |
Post install note: refresh the page |
17:23 |
gsams |
only thing that hasn't fixed for me is hatch. |
17:30 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ Angular 7 is working for me on an "upgrade" of a VM from master to master. |
17:32 |
berick |
cool |
17:33 |
Dyrcona |
The UI looks good. I've run the Angular and AngularJS tests, Running perl live tests now, just to be sure. |
17:35 |
Dyrcona |
berick: So, it's OK with you if I signoff and push it to master and 3.2? |
17:40 |
berick |
Dyrcona: yes |
17:41 |
Dyrcona |
All right, then, I will do that. |
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pinesol |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1801984 Upgrading Angular 6 to Angular 7 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7e2483b> |
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gsams |
JBoyer: So I went back and started over, as I was having an issue seeing printers in both Chrome and Firefox. Now I can't get installer to compile at all. It's giving me an error on line 175. |
20:27 |
gsams |
JBoyer:Final note, for whatever reason when I went to retry the process, the lib folder wasn't present anymore. I ported it over from the precompiled installer, just to get it going. It appears to work properly now. |
20:28 |
gsams |
I'm just a tad bit out of my depth on this one, so I'm not really sure what went wrong. It was there the first time I cloned the branch, but then it wasn't the next time. |
20:29 |
gsams |
In any case, I'm about to sign off on it as I've gotten it to work in Firefox. |
20:53 |
gsams |
strike that, I thought berick had done the Chrome testing, and my gut says to wait. |
20:53 |
gsams |
since my chrome appears to not be working, so maybe I either did something else wrong. |
20:54 |
gsams |
or something did break. |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-01-29T04:58:02,473540238-0500 -0> |
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JBoyer |
I don't have a good feel for how much they're used, but I think the reason they're not enabled by default is (potential?) user confusion. The users that know what they are and are for like them a lot. |
10:25 |
JBoyer |
(Also, until very recently we didn't have a good way to distinguish DVD/BR and that would cause some unhappyness. And MR holds don't mesh with parts to my knowledge, so...) |
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phasefx_ |
I think this might be a heisenbug: http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-01-29T04:58:02,473540238-0500 |
10:32 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona, I think the perl EDI pusher might help in that situation (since it doesn't bother with AT at all) but if it's not happening enough to warrant the switch that may not be much help. |
10:33 |
berick |
JBoyer: was going to say the same... |
10:33 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: Thanks. I have not looked into it that deeply, yet. As you said, it happens may be once/month, but sometimes twice in two weeks. |
10:34 |
berick |
*things like newlines |
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JBoyer |
phasefx_, kind of a surprising one though. I'm not sure how that could change from one run to the next? |
11:11 |
phasefx_ |
JBoyer: not sure, but I saw it one my test system a lot when I was working on the QA scripts, but then it didn't happen on the one we use for the website, so I stopped worrying about it, until it reappeared today |
11:16 |
Dyrcona |
I've had tests sometimes fail, though it seems to b related to the order of running PgTAP and Perl tests, though not always reproducible. |
11:17 |
Dyrcona |
phasefx_: Guess we jumped the gun on Lp 1794588. We look forward to the revised branch later this week! |
11:17 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1794588 in Evergreen 3.2 "Web client edit single call number changes all when multiple items attached" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794588 |
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miker |
abowling: for push, or even for pull? (assuming git@ repo syntax) |
16:15 |
miker |
(and, I'm assuming, for the working repo?) |
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jeffdavis |
Does anyone around here have access to the NCIP v1 spec? I haven't been able to dig up a copy (best I can find is a DTD). |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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News from qatests: Failed Installing OpenSRF pre-requisites <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.7.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,134655585-0500 -0> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Building OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.9.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,145320458-0500 -2> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running OpenSRF build tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.10.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,155872803-0500 -4> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed creating opensrf user and environment <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.12.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,166398512-0500 -6> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed configuring ejabberd <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.15.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,176977598-0500 -8> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed creating jabber users <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.16.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,187453946-0500 -10> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed configuring OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.17.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,197942981-0500 -12> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.18.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,208465643-0500 -14> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed stop opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.19.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,219023235-0500 -16> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.20.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,229543507-0500 -18> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed test opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.21.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,240078227-0500 -20> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed configuring websockets <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.22.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,250624553-0500 -22> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed stop opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.23.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,261252502-0500 -24> |
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News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen pre-requisites <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.26.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,271800743-0500 -26> |
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News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.29.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,282350977-0500 -28> |
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News from qatests: Failed Building Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.30.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,292921177-0500 -30> |
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News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.31.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,303413681-0500 -32> |
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News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.32.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,313932658-0500 -34> |
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News from qatests: Failed Change File Ownership <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.33.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,324429797-0500 -36> |
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News from qatests: Failed Installing Dojo <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.35.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,335032928-0500 -38> |
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News from qatests: Failed configure apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.36.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,345534813-0500 -40> |
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News from qatests: Failed configure EG OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.37.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,356033586-0500 -42> |
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News from qatests: Failed configure EG Action/Trigger <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.38.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,366494806-0500 -44> |
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News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.41.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,378341674-0500 -46> |
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News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.42.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,389221388-0500 -48> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.43.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,399678885-0500 -50> |
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News from qatests: Failed Running autogen.sh <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.44.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,410167249-0500 -52> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Restarting Apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.45.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,420721842-0500 -54> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed test EG opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.46.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,431285564-0500 -56> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.47.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,441802938-0500 -58> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running settings-tester.pl <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.48.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,452316792-0500 -60> |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.49.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,462866936-0500 -62> |
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News from qatests: Failed Gathering log summary <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.50.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,473368748-0500 -64> |
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News from qatests: Failed Log Output: config.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.51.html#2019-01-27T04:36:36,483854091-0500 -66> |
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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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jeff |
oh, and... |
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jvwoolf |
Thank you, I would not have thought to look in the actor schema! |
15:13 |
jeff |
it's actor.search_filter_group, actor.search_filter_group_entry, and actor.search_query |
15:16 |
Dyrcona |
So, I'm seeing ingest being a lot slower on 3.2 than on a 3.0 database. I'm going to redo my "tests" next week and get some actual timings. Just thought I'd throw that out there. |
15:16 |
jeff |
also, if you're working with search filter groups that rely on "non-dynamic" filters like locations(), be aware of bug 1808055 |
15:17 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1808055 in Evergreen "Search queries containing a filter in a subquery/group may drop the filter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1808055 - Assigned to Mike Rylander (mrylander) |
15:20 |
miker |
Dyrcona: well, there are about 2x cmf's now, for display fields... |
15:21 |
Dyrcona |
I'm skipping the display fields in this test. I'm testing my branch for bug 1813172 by just doing a record attribute reingest. |
15:21 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1813172 in Evergreen "Add option to specify metabib record attributes for reingest to pingest.pl" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1813172 |
15:22 |
Dyrcona |
But, yeah, more fields makes a difference. |
15:41 |
jvwoolf |
jeff: Thanks for pointing out that bug. I think that may be our problem. We are relying on shelving location searches in our kidcat. |
15:48 |
jvwoolf |
jeff: Are you doing any workarounds in your catalog at this point? |
15:48 |
jeff |
jvwoolf: that is currenty broken. miker proposed a fix, but it didn't seem to work in our environment. i have not had/made time to investigate further. |
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jeff |
jvwoolf: in the one place where we were using locations() in search filter groups, we expanded to use audience and added some additional item types, but it's an imperfect solution. i'd like to revisit or get additional eyes on the bug. |
15:49 |
miker |
I haven't had time to dig in either ... it seemed to work in my mock testing, but I'll have to look more |
15:50 |
jeff |
jvwoolf: sounds like you're the second person to hit it, though -- you could mark the bug Confirmed. :-) |
15:51 |
jeff |
and feel free to test the fix, if you're able and willing -- it's possible that my testing was flawed. |
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jvwoolf |
For sure. Thanks, jeff |
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miker |
+1 |
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jeff |
jvwoolf++ miker++ |
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jeff++ miker++ |
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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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miker |
mmorgan: re deleting users in batch from a bucket, that behavior is intended and documented (in the specs, at least). it's to allow rolling back a batch action, and to provide a level of accident protection. |
08:04 |
miker |
also Bmagic -^ |
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Dyrcona |
Hmm. Apparently not... |
13:24 |
Dyrcona |
At least not what I suspected. Seems normal. |
13:32 |
csharp |
we haven't noticed any trouble since upgrading to 3.2 over the weekend |
13:33 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah. I'm going to try doing Lp 1813172 and testing that on a db upgraded from 3.0 to 3.2. |
13:33 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1813172 in Evergreen "Add option to specify metabib record attributes for reingest to pingest.pl" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1813172 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson) |
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eby |
question if there is anyone that knows offhand. I think i'm not getting my keywords right. From the code and documentation it seems that shelf hold expire dates are moved ahead if they fall on a closed date but not if there is a closed date between the dates, at least in our experience. |
14:17 |
Dyrcona |
Something in the logs that eby shared is highly relevant to something that I've been thinking about lately. |
14:17 |
eby |
2013 must have been a good thought year |
14:20 |
Dyrcona |
Next gen. and the future and all of that. :) |
14:23 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm.. Back to that potential bug in metabib.reingest_record_attributes....My test run of just doing that on a 3.0 database with pingest.pl has already processed the first 8 batches. On a 3.2 database, it still hasn't finished the first batch. I started the latter first. |
14:26 |
Dyrcona |
I wonder if specifying the pattr_list attribute can really slow things down. That bears looking into. |
14:32 |
Dyrcona |
It's now up to 12 batches done on the 3.0 database... |
14:33 |
Dyrcona |
Could just be the luck of the draw, but the 3.2 database has now finished 5 batches. |
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jeff |
Dyrcona++ sandbergja++ csharp++ berick++ |
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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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stephengwills |
for the record: just found this from Dan Wells: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1053397 in 2014. some kind of memory error. |
09:51 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1053397 in Evergreen "TPAC - Missing Meta-record Level Hold" [Wishlist,Fix released] |
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stephengwills |
yup…seg fault on 8G test server. will increase RAM and try again. |
10:12 |
miker |
csharp: re your log from last night, the cstore backends are timing out waiting for a request, which means that storage (the inner-most search stuff) is doing something for longer than 6 seconds ... cstore itself isn't timing out. it could very well be the container filter code... is that a big container? |
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miker |
hrm... looking at the code, I don't like that theory anymore :( |
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pinesol |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1808268 eg2 grid rename action disable option - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9776fd8> |
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pinesol |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1808268 eg2 grid action disableOnRows sanity check - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=795c2f3> |
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csharp |
miker: here's another example of something where cstore stops waiting: https://pastebin.com/2U201g0c |
12:22 |
csharp |
my next step is to kick up the loglevel on our test server to see what it shows, but I'm consumed with personal stuff today, so it will need to be later |
12:24 |
csharp |
stephengwills: make sure to rule out bug 1764542 |
12:24 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1764542 in Evergreen "Incorrect format on config.metabib_field insert results in segmentation fault" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764542 |
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* csharp |
disappears again |
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miker |
Stompro: just make sure your index normalizer has a position > 0 so that it doesn't change the displayed values |
15:33 |
miker |
if you go that route |
15:34 |
Stompro |
miker, are you a mind reader, i was just looking at that field. |
15:42 |
Stompro |
Hmm, i tried just simply substituting & for and in the normalizer, and that seems like it does it in my quick testing. Miker, is there a reason I need to map & to _and_ vs just to 'and'; |
15:43 |
Dyrcona |
tsqueries, maybe? |
15:43 |
Dyrcona |
but, maybe not. |
15:45 |
Stompro |
we already have a synonym for and -> &, so with that change both & and 'and" exist in the series_field_entry index_vector, but the series_field_entry value does now have and vs &. |
15:47 |
miker |
Stompro: no reason, really. does searching for & also work then? |
15:52 |
Stompro |
miker, it seems like it does, but it could just be filtering out the &, the results with or without the & included seem to work. It does change the relevance ranking for the couple that I've reindexed since making the change. |
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Stompro |
When I remove the "&" in the series from one of the items I'm testing, that title still comes up for a search with or without '&' included, but not when 'and' is used. So I think the & is being ignored. |
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Stompro |
Which is fine, I just want the 'and' searches to work. |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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Stompro |
miker, hmm, searches with quotes around them, exact match, won't work with this method... |
16:38 |
Stompro |
The advanced search, exact match option does still work though. |
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Bmagic |
Did I see a bug (can't find it now) that said that deleting patron using user buckets does NOT remove the patron data? |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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remingtron |
berick or others: do you have instructions on the minimum steps to test a new angular branch? |
10:44 |
remingtron |
I'm testing bug 1749475 and don't want to do the full install process |
10:44 |
berick |
remingtron: in the eg2 dir: npm run test |
10:44 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1749475 in Evergreen "wishlist: Improved email and printing from the OPAC" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749475 |
10:45 |
remingtron |
sorry, I meant "install" the code into it's production location, not "run the tests" |
10:45 |
berick |
ah |
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berick |
before 'make install', inside the eg2 directory: ng build --prod |
10:47 |
remingtron |
cool. Does configure or make do anything with the eg2 bits? |
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pinesol |
[evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1727345 - fix bibsource when importing or overlaying - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=014b62e> |
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rsulejmani |
berick: ok |
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rsulejmani |
I just did the psql with -h host and it returned that the database evergreen does not exist |
12:22 |
berick |
rsulejmani: also, FWIW, I always install with -e use_pg_96=true. it should work either way, but I never install 9.5 so it gets less testing (though I think bshum uses 9.5) |
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rsulejmani |
berick: ok will do the same thanks |
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Dyrcona |
I use Pg 9.5 but don't use the ansible installer. |
12:23 |
Dyrcona |
rsulejmani: It sounds like the database creation step failed. I can help you with that manually if it fails the second time. I'm sure berick and others can help, too. ;) |
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pinesol |
berick: Must be because I had the flu for Christmas. |
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berick |
makes sense pinesol |
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berick |
oh, now it's back |
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csharp |
our lists (bookbags) are broken, resulting in an Internal Server Error page and I'm stumped about how to trace it |
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csharp |
I can see the call in the osrfsys log, but nothing directly corresponds to that threadtrace in the error log |
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csharp |
2019-01-22 13:53:56 brick04-head osrf_json_gw: [perl:error] [pid 31416] [client 127.0.0.1:50480] egweb: Context Loader error: Exception: OpenSRF::DomainObject::oilsMethodException 2019-01-22T13:53:56 OpenILS::WWW::EGWeb /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/OpenILS/WWW/EGWeb.pm:185 <500> No active transaction to roll back\n, referer: https://gapines.org/eg/opac/myopac/lists |
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csharp |
that's within the run_context_loader subroutine, and I'm not sure what that does |
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csharp |
crazy thing is, test server running the same code is working fine |
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Dyrcona |
csharp: What that code does is look up a Perl module in the directory or other config, use the module, then call it's load method. If that throws an error, it reports it. So, it looks like your context load module is failing. |
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Dyrcona |
That looks like it would be EGCatLoader. |
14:17 |
Dyrcona |
The tricky part, now, is figuring what part of EGCatLoader. |
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yboston |
If I only wanted subfield $a, then I could again just use the metabib.full_rec view, |
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yboston |
but I end up with the correct 650 subfield $a for a particular bib, but if there are other subfields like $y in that same bib but for another 650 tag, then $y is incorrectly showing up with all the $a's |
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pastebot |
"yboston" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "SQL to try to pull subjects from certain bibs" (60 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/14388 |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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rsulejmani |
berick: I'm testing something in the source code of the evergreen system and I was wondering since I updated and saved something how do I refresh the system so the changes can show |
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yboston |
I am wondering if there is another view or table I should try to use to get the correct subject data, since I can trust the list of bibs I have. Alternatively, I can export all those bibs a use a MARC programming library to go through all the bibs and then output the 6xx fields |
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berick |
rsulejmani: depends a lot on what you are changing |
16:41 |
berick |
you can always copy your files into place then restart the whole system, but there are usually much faster ways |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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JBoyer |
and finally records: delete from biblio.record_entry where id > 0; |
08:37 |
JBoyer |
(Normally you would want to use database transactions when using things like insert, update, or delete, but if you're trying to delete everything anyway it's not such a big deal.) |
08:37 |
JBoyer |
does that help? |
08:38 |
RMiller |
Testing it now! |
08:39 |
JBoyer |
Since I didn't know where you were comfort-wise I tried to make it easy to follow, hopefully that didn't come across condescending. :) |
08:39 |
RMiller |
I'm an English teacher fumbling around. You cannot condescend too low :) |
08:42 |
RMiller |
The first two returned "DELETE 0" pretty quickly, and the third one is... still... thinking... Does that sound normal? |
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mmorgan |
We see log entries like this: 2019-01-18 11:02:24 brick2 open-ils.vandelay: [WARN:22569:Application.pm:624:1547827174572487] open-ils.vandelay.bib.process_spool: no mapping found for [0xCC] at position 5 in GarciÌ<U+0081>a Lorca, Federico,g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset.pm line 308. |
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mmorgan |
Anyone else seen something similar? |
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sandbergja |
Bmagic: Our branch librarian is interested in testing your fix to bug #1741299 |
12:27 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1741299 in Evergreen "DYMO LabelWriter 450 Turbo Hatch Label print fails with margin error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741299 - Assigned to Blake GH (bmagic) |
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Bmagic |
great! |
12:27 |
sandbergja |
I'm not very familiar with Hatch, though. Would we need to use a test server with that Evergreen branch enabled? |
12:28 |
Bmagic |
the changes to Evergreen are very very small |
12:28 |
sandbergja |
And would we have to compile Hatch ourselves? And if so, can it co-exist with Hatch installed from the Chrome store? |
12:28 |
Bmagic |
you could edit the single tt2 file manually without having to merge the branch, etc |
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jvwoolf |
JBoyer: Yes! |
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JBoyer |
Ooh, the low-impact version would be a new view that only pulls things out of acn where label_class = dewey... Now I'm very interested in playing with this. |
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csharp |
JBoyer++ |
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csharp |
I'd be happy to work with you on that (or at least test whatever you come up with) after the dust settles from this weekend's upgrade |
14:31 |
JBoyer |
csharp++ |
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JBoyer |
Good luck! We've been enjoying 3.2 so far. :) |
14:36 |
csharp |
thanks - all looks good |
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miker |
mmorgan: that sounds a lot like (and, based on your error paste, looks like) badly encoded records. specifically, marc8 encoded records. is that possible? |
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miker |
as in, the xml related code thinks its dealing with utf8 data, but it's marc8 |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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bshum |
Happy Friday everyone, and good luck to all the upgrading Evergreeners this weekend :) |
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bshum |
I'll be excited to see your shiny upgraded catalogs on Tuesday :) |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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JBoyer |
gmcharlt, depending on how far you've made it looking into bug 1805856 you might want to load the branch I referenced in the latest comment before testing further. |
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pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1805856 in Evergreen "WebClient: would like certain results to open in a new tab" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1805856 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc) |
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gmcharlt |
JBoyer: thanks for the heads-up |
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sandbergja |
JBoyer: thanks for the testing and correction! |
12:15 |
sandbergja |
JBoyer++ |
12:15 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja++ |
12:15 |
JBoyer |
Thanks for putting it out there to test! |
12:23 |
mmorgan |
Just mentioning I added my signoff branch to bug 1806709 |
12:23 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1806709 in Evergreen 3.2 "Add Billing History grid persist-key to server-side db settings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1806709 |
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csharp |
in this case I changed a digit of day phone and clicked Save |
13:58 |
Dyrcona |
Were you trying to change the usrname? |
13:58 |
csharp |
no |
13:58 |
berick |
if anyone wants to test/merge: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/berick/patron-create-load-js-errors |
13:59 |
berick |
hm, no trouble saving modified patrons here |
13:59 |
berick |
in master |
14:00 |
csharp |
berick++ # your fix stopped the console errors - thanks |
14:02 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: Somehow, you're ending up in the code to create a new patron. |
14:02 |
JBoyer |
I was about to be confused as to how that usrname check could possibly work, but then I noticed that it's in _add_patron... So something about an isnew check (maybe not the ones berick fixed?) seems to be failing somewhere. |
16:30 |
Bmagic |
sheesh |
16:30 |
Bmagic |
it works as ejabberd |
16:30 |
bshum |
Well "sudo" doesn't come with Debian right? |
16:30 |
pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
16:30 |
bshum |
You'd have to add sudo as a package prereq or something for the blind followers :) |
16:31 |
Dyrcona |
Um, I get sudo by default. |
16:31 |
bshum |
Maybe it's an old Debian problem |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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gmcharlt |
has anybody had an opportunity to test the OpenSRF 3.1 beta? |
14:01 |
Dyrcona |
No, but I've been using OpenSRF master for a while. |
14:02 |
Dyrcona |
including updating my VMs this week for some light weight work testing things for my conference presentation. |
14:09 |
JBoyer |
I was going to say no but upon actually bothering to look, I've been running master in production for a while now. Haven't given proper attention to any specific features beyond websocketd support though. |
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* berick |
thinks the answer is probably yet |
14:58 |
berick |
er, yes |
15:01 |
pinesol |
[evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1737800 - add delete action to pending patrons - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5d52073> |
15:03 |
phasefx |
gmcharlt: fwiw, 3.1 beta passed qa tests and my smoketest with a dev system |
15:26 |
Dyrcona |
I'll push bug 1801998 in the interest of getting it in before tomorrow's releases, if they're still on. Last that I heard they were, but haven't heard anything since last week. |
15:26 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1801998 in Evergreen 3.2 "Deprecate Hatch storage for 3.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801998 |
15:29 |
pinesol |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1801998 Deprecate Hatch for data storage - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ec3ce4b> |
15:33 |
Dyrcona |
It would be good if someone looked at bug 1803734 before tomorrow. |
15:33 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1803734 in Evergreen 3.2 "edi_order_pusher.pl blindly pushes ancient orders" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803734 |
15:34 |
Dyrcona |
And bug 1806709 |
15:34 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1806709 in Evergreen 3.2 "Add Billing History grid persist-key to server-side db settings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1806709 |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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16:44 |
hbrennan |
bshum: FYI autogen didn't solve the "unclickable item barcode" issue :( |
16:44 |
hbrennan |
but diving in deep, there's a xul reference in there |
17:04 |
bshum |
Speaking from my own opinion, fixing webby issues in previous releases is a pain :) |
17:04 |
bshum |
Fixing them in current ones isn't much better either. |
17:05 |
bshum |
If it's not broken for others on 3.1 or 3.2, it's community-advisable to just say "plan your next upgrade" |
17:05 |
hbrennan |
We're building a test of 3.1.something this week |
17:05 |
hbrennan |
It's not even broken on 3.0.9, the closest I could survey |
17:06 |
hbrennan |
Literally no one has this issue, which is why I went in the direction that it must be us |
17:06 |
bshum |
Yeah :( |
17:06 |
bshum |
I hate it when that happens :) |
17:06 |
hbrennan |
Instead, it looks like it must be 3.0.5 |
17:07 |
hbrennan |
I'm too excitable. I should probably stop reading release notes. They promise so much fun and new. |
17:12 |
bshum |
New is always better. |
17:12 |
hbrennan |
Except when it's not. :) |
17:12 |
bshum |
When it was up to me, life on the bleeding edge was the only way to go |
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17:12 |
bshum |
But I was more in-tune with the development then |
17:12 |
bshum |
So it was easier to know where the mines were going to be |
17:13 |
bshum |
I don't get to test as much as I'd like to, now. |
17:13 |
hbrennan |
Well thankfully we can still run the xul client. Which is why this has been on my backburner for a while. |
17:13 |
hbrennan |
But now I'm leaving my position and need to push up web training |
17:13 |
bshum |
It makes me wonder if maybe it's a customization issue |