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Results for 2024-02-02

09:34 Dyrcona I'm running it manually now.
09:36 Dyrcona Grr. Insert can have only 1 ON COnFLICT clause. I'd actually like to do something different depending on which constraint triggers.
09:36 Dyrcona Totally unrelated to offline blocklist, of course.
09:39 Dyrcona This mean that I can't really test this update in its entirety. I'm updating some information related to users and my test database doesn't have all of the users from production.
09:40 Dyrcona i suppose I could do the insert/update with a select statement or add a where exists....
09:46 Dyrcona No? "and exists (select 1 from actor.usr where id = <user_id>) didn't help.
09:46 Dyrcona Oh, duh....
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09:47 Dyrcona Bmagic: Looks like offline-blocklist finished and the output is 18MB.
09:49 Dyrcona Maybe the AND EXISTS will work if I remove the rule from the constraint...
09:51 Dyrcona Nope. Do update requires inference specification or constraint name. Guess I can't really test the update, though it "worked" for the ones that existed, so it's good. Hopefully all of the users exist in production.
10:01 berick hey, Ubuntu, how about I pay you *not* to advertise Ubuntu Pro at me?  bleh.
10:01 berick maybe time to mix up the ol' desktop OS
10:02 Dyrcona berick: Have you considered Arch? I use it on my personal laptop.
13:48 sandbergja +1
13:49 Dyrcona I suppose we can drop 1 of the frameworks, or at least 1 set of tests, when AngularJS is finally gone.
13:49 sandbergja Oh, one test question that I've been meaning to ask forever.  What is the distinction between pgtap regression tests and just regular pgtap tests?
13:51 Dyrcona The regression tests are, I think, meant to check that certain database changes have not been undone.
13:52 Dyrcona I added a regression test to my branch for Lp 1835953 to make sure that the columns have the not null constraint.
13:52 pinesol Launchpad bug 1835953 in Evergreen "Circulation auto renewal remaining should not be nullable" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835953
13:53 sandbergja Dyrcona++
13:54 sandbergja I like that example!
13:58 Dyrcona That branch makes a few updates to the pgtap tests and the sample data load.
14:08 sandbergja 3.12.1 tarball tested and it passed!
14:09 sandbergja I've uploaded the release directory here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PVlP​VhJ8UtUUH7Yu1JRSsJkr1TOo0Fgv?usp=drive_link -- gmcharlt: could you please upload it to lupin?
14:21 sandbergja I pushed my working branch to tags/rel_3_12_1.  I also added the upgrade script to the rel_3_12 and main branches.  Does that seem as it should be?
14:21 Dyrcona Yes, that sounds right. Let me have a look.
14:22 sandbergja Dyrcona++
14:22 Dyrcona Looks good to me. I can copy the files to Lupin if gmcharlt hasn't gotten to it, yet.
16:30 Dyrcona I'll have to see if I can test this tomorrow some time, but I've got stuff to do.
16:34 Dyrcona I've put the release files here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ey​s7BQV4TdDcgs8QtXy6XJ46QC8CMbyK?usp=sharing
16:35 Dyrcona If anyone else wants to test. Also, let me know if you can't access that or the contents. It should be shared with anyone who has the link.
16:35 sandbergja Dyrcona++
16:35 sandbergja I can run the automated tests on that tarball this afternoon
16:36 Dyrcona sandbergja++
16:53 sandbergja It would be nice if we could make the perl live tests and nightwatch e2e tests faster too.  I suspect that's a barrier to people running them regularly.
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Results for 2024-02-01

15:15 berick mmorgan: i only meant we don't systematically apply pcrud perms to every pcrud-accessible class in the IDL, esp. if pcrud was not initially used to manage the class.
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15:55 adam_reid hey all! I've been looking at the actor.verify_passwd() function in the evergreen DB, am I understanding it correctly that I should be able to pass in (usr.id, type, password) and get a true false result? I'm playing with a little custom tool and want to require users to verfiy beforehand
15:58 berick adam_reid: yes, but it's a little more complicated with 'main' passwords
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16:00 berick adam_reid: select * from actor.verify_passwd(1, 'main', md5((select salt from actor.passwd where usr = 1) || md5('demo123')));
16:01 berick that's my test system where admin has password demo123
16:01 adam_reid amazing, I had the feeling I was missing the use of md5, I'll try with you example. Thanks berick!
16:06 adam_reid Fantastic, that worked berick!
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Results for 2024-01-30

10:51 Bmagic nothing formal
10:51 Dyrcona OK. cool.
10:51 Dyrcona How many I can attend depends on my schedule. I've been busy with Aspen stuff lately.
10:52 Dyrcona My rebased branch works and all tests pass, including the ones I modified. I'm having a good day so far. :)
10:55 Dyrcona Think I'll look for something to review on my own this afternoon.
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14:46 pinesol News from commits: LP1998413 - Holdings Editor Batch Actions restore  prefix/suffix option <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=230e7a​23422b9e0b4ab587244079bad858c9eb17>
14:47 Dyrcona pinesol I think you're a conspiracy theorist.
14:47 pinesol Dyrcona: http://images.cryhavok.org/​d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif
14:52 * Dyrcona sometimes to assign bugs to himself when testing.
14:53 * Dyrcona also sometimes forgets to type words in IRC. I think my brain gets ahead of my fingers.
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15:05 sandbergja nfaber: I've had a lot of luck using the docker containers from BMagic on my M1 macbook: https://hub.docker.com/r/m​obiusoffice/evergreen-ils

Results for 2024-01-29

15:51 * Dyrcona decided to go with the STAFF_LOGIN version.
16:19 sandbergja Dyrcona++
16:41 Dyrcona 2 files changed, 6953 insertions(+), 7122 deletions(-)
16:48 Dyrcona Perl tests pass.
16:48 Dyrcona I'll check some of the Angular interfaces tomorrow.
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Results for 2024-01-26

10:26 Dyrcona berick: It gets crazier because the backend sends just the workstation id to the AngularJS client, and the client appears to use what the back end sends it. I would suspect a change in a dependency except it works with a stock release on the same data.
10:27 Dyrcona No database errors either.
10:30 Dyrcona I've got 47 commits to bisect... Dunno if I want to go all the way back to start since it apparently worked last week.
10:32 Dyrcona I should test this on a more recent release with similar patches.
10:33 Dyrcona I have two available.
10:43 Dyrcona OK. it works on a more recent Evergreen release, but that one may not have all of the patches or may have one that's missing. I can't rule out that we dropped something.
10:49 Dyrcona Guess I'll bisect everything.

Results for 2024-01-25

13:59 Dyrcona yes.
14:00 Dyrcona I might give xmllint a whirl later. I think I'm going to put this aside for a bit and work on something more important.
14:02 Dyrcona The indentation doesn't respect the vim/Emacs settings at the bottom. I have also noted that the Emacs on this Ubuntu 20.04 laptop is ignoring the settings. We've got mostly tabs, but some spaces mixed in.
14:04 Dyrcona I suspect the file may be too large for Emacs to care about the settings at the bottom. If they were at the top, it would probably work. I may move the comment just to test that theory. They're also some "unsafe" variables, so I may need to check if I've allowed them to be changed in my Emacs config....Software....
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Results for 2024-01-24

10:24 Dyrcona Stompro++ # For most of the performance improvements.
10:25 Bmagic I was tracking that thread
10:25 Dyrcona Mostly for items, yes.
10:26 Bmagic this execution is sans items. At least I think it is. I didn't pass any arguments to marc_export. My command: cat records.txt | marc_export > test.mrc
10:27 Dyrcona Well, use your own extractor if it is faster. Also, "Patches welcome!"
10:27 pinesol News from commits: LP1839364 Move login page error message; add ARIA <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a92c0​619f366e1854575d686c3619d5d559f694>
10:27 pinesol News from commits: LP#1945003: (follow-up) redo lint fixups <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fdaf1​7cf6a91a6f7e3a8bcf1864aef526ffeed8>

Results for 2024-01-23

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10:30 csharp_ Bmagic: do y'all still have tools for LibraryIQ export that are shareable somewhere?  the vendor has an outdated link to the mobius_evergreen repo...
10:31 csharp_ we have a library interested in testing
10:31 Bmagic yep! Let me get the link
10:32 Bmagic csharp_: https://github.com/mcoia/e​vergreen-libraryiq-export
10:38 csharp_ Bmagic++ # muchas gracias
15:17 Bmagic I've decided (based on the strength of recent new installation of Evergreen 3.11.1 on PG15 for a new group of academics) that we upgrade to PG15 for anyone going to 3.11 and greater
15:18 Dyrcona I wish more folks would actually look at new Pg versions. I'm playing with pg 16 and production data, now, but have no idea if it is really ready for prime time.
15:19 Bmagic We have two production consortia on pg15. Been 6 weeks or so. So far it's just fine
15:19 Dyrcona Also, i don't know that pg versions should really cause bad character issues in the data. We could check the release notes again. I know that we have had to adjust the creations of some indexes and update tests because of Pg changes with character set handling in the past.
15:20 Bmagic the character issue may not be related. I was sort of guessing, because the PG version was something we changed between then and now. But records get added all the time too, so....
15:20 Dyrcona Those were mainly related to stripping accents in name search.
15:22 Dyrcona We get wide character and other warnings during export all the time. The best is when some UTF-16 sneaks, usually copy and paste from a browser. It always seems to happen when someone copy/pastes a description from Amazon.

Results for 2024-01-19

09:40 Dyrcona "Pg16" sounds like a movie rating, not the name of a virtual machine.
09:44 Dyrcona git: "Please tell me who you are."
09:48 csharp_ Dyrcona++
09:51 Dyrcona git fetch --all shows some interesting things to test later.
10:17 Dyrcona live_t/37-carousels.t                                      (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 2 Failed: 1)
10:24 Dyrcona huh. This time it worked....
10:30 berick conf deadline...  i'd be happy to talk about redis, but I think people would rather hear from someone else at this point.
10:30 berick maybe a short on some rust stuff i'm doing

Results for 2024-01-18

11:48 jeff using Hatch?
11:48 berick yeah
11:49 * Dyrcona mumbles something about editors and indentation being adjusted automagically.
11:50 jeff In the newly opened tab, before reloading the page, window.document.documentElement​.getAttribute("hatch-is-open") returns null.
11:51 jeff reloading the page causes it to return the expected value.
11:51 jeff (and workstation fetching from Hatch works, as evidenced by the workstation appearing in the top nav)
11:52 jeff might be something Windows-only. I've tested on 2+ machines running Windows 10 with Hatch 0.3.3
11:53 jeff Evergreen 3.10 and 3.12. I can reproduce on demo.evergreencatalog.com
11:53 jeff Haven't tried to reproduce on Linux or macOS, mostly because we don't use Hatch on those anywhere currently.
11:58 jeff interesting. it also happens when I right-click and "Open link in new window". That new window opens in the foreground, so that seems to rule out something related to background tabs or page visibility api.
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12:09 jeff no report in console of the new window/tab loading the Hatch relay content script.
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13:52 jeff (where "break it" is: no workstation name after the username in the top right corner; redirected to the register workstation page)
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13:55 Stompro jeff++ thanks for tracking this down
13:58 jeff things that this seems to have had nothing to do with: background tabs, preloading/prefetch, memory/energy saving, angular routing, Chrome updates, and field tests. :-)
14:12 berick jeff: hm, turns out I can reproduce in main, but not in KCLS-tweaked EG 3.9
14:12 * berick tries 3.11
14:15 jeff reproduced on Debian 11 with Chrome Stable against 3.12 (demo.evergreencatalog.com) just now.

Results for 2024-01-12

10:51 nfaber Nice to meet you all!
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11:10 redavis Welcome nfaber!!
11:18 mantis1 nfaber: this is a test ping!  yay
11:22 Dyrcona redavis: I assume from yesterday's conversation that the Evergreen community Aspen discussions are still ongoing. I found some email saying the fourth Monday of the month. How does one connect?
11:25 Dyrcona I also think it might be useful to summarize the patches needed for forthcoming Aspen/Evergreen features. Not sure if the General mailing list or either Aspen Evergreen group would be the proper venue. Probably all 3.
11:28 redavis Dyrcona, the community Evergreen Aspen meetings are going to be bimonthly.  Here is the feature/issue list we have.  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17ZTGQ9wHuh​qL3HvrSZUDU0-AP7culAzDk3B4brKk7c4/edit?usp=sharing

Results for 2024-01-09

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15:03 abneiman #info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox
15:03 mmorgan Dyrcona++
15:03 Bmagic #action mmorgan will explore moving LP stats to community site and automating same
15:03 Bmagic #info sandbergja will see if gh actions can run the pgtap tests
15:04 sandbergja no progress on pgtap in github actions
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15:04 Bmagic #action sandbergja will see if gh actions can run the pgtap tests
15:04 Bmagic #info Dyrcona will summarize release coordination discussion and followup on the development mailing list.
15:04 Dyrcona #info Done!
15:04 Bmagic suhweet
15:08 pinesol Launchpad bug 2047707 in OpenSRF "track browser and tab for staff interface logging" [Wishlist,New]
15:08 GalenCharlton upshot of that one: will help us deal with runaway pcrud explosions and general load monitoring
15:09 Bmagic interesting!
15:10 Bmagic I have a VM setup to test the redis branch(es), I really need to get back to that
15:10 eeevil GalenCharlton: since the agenda is otherwise thin, I have a question about that!
15:10 GalenCharlton eeevil: go for it
15:11 eeevil do you imagine being able to make it a hard client requirement (think: soft API key) or just (for now) some extra info a client /should/ pass so we can know who's who?
15:15 Bmagic There's a bug somewhere having to do with closing the tab, causing the pcrud wall-o-requests
15:15 GalenCharlton ayup
15:16 GalenCharlton and while I _also_ have some thoughts on ameliorating that from the Angular and AngularJS code, the ability to detect that a specific browser is spamming requests and doing a block (or even just a forced WS connection reset) would be very useful
15:17 Bmagic coolio! Anyone here want to chime in on testing redis and/or adding comments on the tab-tracking proposal bug
15:18 Bmagic I suppose we can move on now
15:18 Bmagic #topic Documentation
15:18 Bmagic dluch won't make it today. abneiman, any update?

Results for 2024-01-05

10:01 Dyrcona @blame 3a9279694aff88c4b7909fec00b50faea92212cd
10:01 pinesol Dyrcona: 3a9279694aff88c4b7909fec00b50faea92212cd typed Google into Google; broke the Internet.
10:02 Dyrcona So, if you encounter that configure error, it means you need to upgrade OpenSRF.
10:03 * Dyrcona fires up a local vm to run pgtap tests on Pg 16.
10:04 Dyrcona BTW, You can check the lib version with autotools. Not that we've been versioning libraries "correctly" either.
10:07 Dyrcona Did I mention before that I find Github's new 2FA requirements to be annoying? Well, if I didn't, I do, and if I did, I still do.
10:14 Dyrcona Hmm... Make a Pg 16 branch now, or test Pg 16 first?
10:16 Dyrcona Upgrade an existing VM or wipe it out and start over?
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11:11 Dyrcona my session was still logged in as far as I could tell.
11:33 Dyrcona The Redis code has not been merged to OpenSRF main, yet?
11:33 berick negatory
11:34 Dyrcona If I want to test redis on a fresh install which branch should I use?
11:34 berick collab/berick/lp2017941-opensrf-on-redis-v3
11:35 Stompro Bmagic, I like the look of that schemaspy.org project, the relationship diagrams are nice, and it would make schema comments visible.
11:35 Dyrcona berick++
11:39 berick may be what you're thinking of
11:40 Dyrcona OK.
11:40 Dyrcona That is probably what I'm thinking of. I'll just the working branch.
11:40 Dyrcona I plan to test Pg 16 and redis on this vm. I have redis installed elsewhere, too.
11:42 Dyrcona I guess I have to time to build the base vm right now.
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11:52 csharp_ Dyrcona: re 2FA, I'm facing that issue with our local GitLab install after a recent version upgrade :-/
14:36 * pinesol grabs a bottle of Smirnoff Ice Passionfruit and sends it sliding down the bar to gmcharlt
14:38 kmlussier That last one sounds promising. "... infused with a sweet tart flavor for total island vibes." Maybe gmcharlt will share.
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15:08 Dyrcona OK. Here gotes the big test: eg_db_config on Pg 16.
15:10 bshum Oooh cookies. Thanks kmlussier!
15:12 Dyrcona bshum++
15:12 Dyrcona kmlussier++
15:13 Dyrcona And, it just works.
15:15 Dyrcona pgtap tests succeed.
15:21 kmlussier bshum: I knew you would like those! :)
15:24 berick Dyrcona: arg, good catch
15:24 berick re: hosts
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15:33 Dyrcona I bet I accidentally edited the .example file after copying.
15:34 Dyrcona Yeah. That's what happened. The files are identical.
15:34 Dyrcona Perl tests succeed, too.
15:35 Dyrcona Think I'll switch from Pg 15 to Pg 16 as the main database on my test server.
15:38 Dyrcona Maybe next week. I should read the release notes again for any gotchas.
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Results for 2024-01-04

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09:16 Dyrcona I've noticed that with psql 16, \df+ <function> no longer shows the function definition.
09:22 Dyrcona I had to use \ef <function> to open it in a test editor, which gives you the SQL used to create the function.
09:24 Dyrcona Interesting... psql 10 gives an error when doing \df+ on a pg 15 database. I wonder if \df+ from psql 16 works on a Pg 16 database. It probably does.
09:25 * Dyrcona loads a dump into pg 16 to see what happens.
09:26 Dyrcona Heh... "Talk Soup" by Weird Al just started playing.... :)
09:26 mantis1 talksoup++
09:27 Dyrcona "Listen to me! Listen to me! Listen to me!" :P
09:30 * Dyrcona updates a script for pg 16 on the test db server.
09:32 Dyrcona Whee! Just copy, paste, and edit 3 lines.
09:35 JBoyer Dyrcona, so long as you specify enough params to uniq-ify it, \sf should show you the function source
09:35 JBoyer (similar to \df+ I mean)
09:35 Dyrcona JBoyer: OK. I was going to check with psql 16 on a pg 16 database because I think its an issue client server mismatch and not a change in features.
09:36 JBoyer Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, the queries backing that feature may have changed / broken / been removed in psql 16.
09:36 Dyrcona Now that I have used it, I think I prefer \ef, at least when I'm running psql locally and talking to a remote server.
09:37 Dyrcona I also plan to finally get around to adding Pg 16 support for Evergreen, so this will be a good first test.
09:43 Dyrcona I suppose it is a good sign that pg_restore has not produced any output to the screen.
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13:38 csharp_ Dyrcona: I tested out all but one of the LP scripts you shared and with a couple of Python 3-ish changes, they appear to work
13:39 csharp_ the release.py one is untested since it appears to make changes and I wanted to get my head around it first
13:39 csharp_ smayo may do some work on things too - we're still in research mode to make sense of the release process
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14:25 mdriscoll I want to copy some patrons from a production system to a test system and I need their password to work.  I have the password hash but not sure how to do the insert so the password works and isn't set to literally 'd41d8cd98f00b...'  Any ideas?
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14:34 jeff mdriscoll: that looks like the start of the md5 hash of an empty string. you'll probably want to take a look at the actor.passwd table.
14:36 jeff mdriscoll: if you copy a user's row from actor.usr and actor.passwd (and actor.usr_address, actor.card, etc), then the copied user on the test system should end up with the same password as on the source system.
14:39 mdriscoll jeff: thanks. I think actor.passwd is the part I was missing.
14:41 jeff mdriscoll: depending on how empty your test system db is, you may need to worry about conflicts, renumbering ids, etc. Even if you don't, consider that if you manually insert ID values, you'll want to either bump sequences or know that eventually you'll run into an error when some future insert gets that manually-inserted value from its default sequence.
14:42 jeff (depending on what kind of a test system this is, and how long it will be around, and other things, you may not care)
14:48 mdriscoll jeff: I'm altering a script I use for loading patrons where I usually set the password and let the database trigger crypt the plain text.  I let the database create the new ids but duly noted about bumping sequences.
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Results for 2024-01-03

11:01 Rogan btw, I'm not in that cage match - if your editor works for you then power to you :)
11:01 Rogan heh
11:02 berick by the same token, a couple of git checkout commands are gravy compared to the rest of the eg/osrf install docs.
11:03 Rogan and I've made use of berick's ansible scripts to automate it when wanting to just throw something up quick(ish) for testing
11:05 berick but tarballs have pre-compiled / pre-downloaded stuff, so it's more than just a checkout, of course.
11:18 csharp_ mantis1: just a quick warning about virtualbox (or any VM running on a PC/laptop) - make sure the RAM is sufficient to run a VM that takes 4GB RAM minimum, and probably 2 CPUs
11:20 csharp_ mantis1: at GPLS we used to repurpose older servers or even PCs to run as a dedicated VM host, but that might be a rabbit hole
12:16 mantis1 but it's good now: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FA​IpQLSfjPGS3IZYkJxNZslkYaUYfwX24QxXRkt​rDvALM6E1jQZfGhQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
12:19 berick mantis1: thanks!
12:22 csharp_ mantis1++
12:24 bshum mantis1: I'll be curious if 4 GB of RAM Is sufficient for a small test VM.  I feel like I was bumping up on problems last time I sized something that small, and it worked better with 6-8
12:25 bshum Might just be my tricky memory.
12:25 mantis1 berick++
12:25 mantis1 bshum: we did allocate more ram out I believe but I'll send an update on specs and how this goes
12:25 csharp_ bshum: you're probably right, but I'm guessing the RAM on a typical laptop/PC is maybe 8GB? and Windows is a hog
12:26 csharp_ (assuming we're talking about Windows 10/11 prolly?)
12:26 bshum csharp_: Oh certainly.  Windows :P
12:26 Dyrcona With KVM on a Linux host 4GB is enough for basic testing. If you really want to do something with it, you'll need more RAM.
12:26 bshum @karma Microsoft
12:26 pinesol bshum: Microsoft has neutral karma.
12:29 csharp_ given Microsoft's relatively recent tolerance and sometimes support of open source software, they don't get as much negative karma from me as they used to :-)
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15:35 JBoyer Looking forward to the forthcoming gaming soundtrack from Character Limit Break
15:46 pinesol News from commits: LP#2044141 (follow-up) tweaks to OPAC tests GitHub action <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=631c7b​e752a7c9f5d5b91e26d24be949d0c7a4ea>
15:46 pinesol News from commits: LP2044141: Run javascript unit tests in github actions <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=514ad0​c2c1b845d501a820d0d28b4fe2caede1e7>
16:16 pinesol News from commits: LP#2046970 Poorly Cropped Reports Icon <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=db508c​9037a44cc08dcf0a9f1ef102a70fe3542d>
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Results for 2024-01-02

14:12 Dyrcona berick++ I was just getting there.
14:17 Dyrcona I should probably rename Evergreen\Utils\Session to Evergreen\Utils\AuthSession in case I ever implement OpenSRF\Session.
14:18 Dyrcona or maybe rename it to Evergreen\AuthSession... I'm still figuring out the API.
14:30 Dyrcona I also question how useful this code is going to be for its original purpose: Testing changes to Aspen. My Fieldmapper is a lot more sophisticated than what Aspen does.
14:31 Dyrcona hah!
14:31 Dyrcona The song that's starting now: "Watch out! You might get what you're after..." Burning Down the House by Talking Heads.
14:31 berick heh

Results for 2023-12-28

10:07 * mmorgan would love to see item templates moved to the database - maybe to that very table!
10:08 Dyrcona I thought they were in user settings? That's bib templates, isn't it?
10:26 Dyrcona Is there a standard for the miscellaneous.adoc file under RELEASE_NOTES_NEXT?
10:32 Dyrcona Hmm.. I could add a PgTap regression test or something like that. Might as well.
10:40 Dyrcona Apparently, one can only check if a column constraint exists and not its definition?
10:42 mmorgan Dyrcona: Yes, item templates are in user settings in a big blob per user. Tough to manage. Bib templates moved to the db would be good also. That's bug 1131238.
10:42 pinesol Launchpad bug 1131238 in Evergreen "Move MARC templates into the database" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131238
10:43 Dyrcona mmorgan: I remember that bug. :)
10:44 Dyrcona I guess I'll give up on a regression test since it won't be easy to do what I want. I'll just specify that one should check the table definition before and after applying the patch.
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11:08 Dyrcona We should take some time to go through the bugs to find those that are "lost." I'm just looking at the ones with patches right now, and I see a few that might need some attention.
11:39 Dyrcona Some bugs have had folks assigned to them for a long time, and I wonder if the bugs are still being looked at.

Results for 2023-12-27

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14:10 Dyrcona So, I think I found a bug in SuperCat while testing my changes. I don't think I wrote this bug, either. It looks like there is insufficient fleshing for stat cat entries.
14:12 Dyrcona /opac/extras/supercat/retr​ieve/marcxml/acp/<copy_id> Gives an internal server error and the error message indicates that the stat cat entries are not fleshed: Can't locate object method "opac_visible" via package "3" (perhaps you forgot to load "3"?)
14:12 Dyrcona And, yeahp. They aren't fleshed properly.
14:23 Dyrcona Then, I sometimes wonder if I get the URI correct because some of these are producing 500 errors with nothing useful in the logs.
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14:51 Dyrcona Yeah. Guess I'lll have to Lp that. Adding asce => [qw/stat_cat/] to the "flesh" list in two places fixes it.
14:51 mmorgan Dyrcona++
14:55 Dyrcona It's hard to test your own changes when you encounter other bugs. :)
14:56 Dyrcona This means my feature branch will likely need a rebase before it can be merged if the bug fix goes in first.
15:18 Dyrcona Yeah, I made my local fix based on my feature branch and I get a conflict cherry-picking the change to a clean branch base on main. :)
15:27 Dyrcona Well, that's interesting. The stat cats are empty even though it doesn't crash. Guess it needs more work.

Results for 2023-12-15

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12:05 Bmagic does it make sense to anyone that a text message would make it to the cell phone using the test feature in the my account opac for one account but not another account. Using the same phone number and carrier on both accounts?
12:06 jvwoolf Same sending address for both?
12:06 Bmagic yep, same server
12:07 Bmagic I can see the process all the way through, and the mail logs in one case is "Sent" and the other  is "Service Unavailable"
12:27 kmlussier I am very much looking forward to the day when we no longer send our texts that way. NOBLE has been looking at other options for the past couple of months.
12:27 jeff That answer doesn't help you solve the problem, but hopefully it helps confirm that there may be no clear reason other than you're hitting rate limits and spam filters and intentional brownouts/deegredations of the target service.
12:31 jeff we spend on average a little over $0.01/message to not have to worry about it.
12:38 Bmagic ok, it was a differenting sending address. haha. The two accounts were attached to two different org units, and the test template walks up the org tree to find an accosiated email address, and found one that isn't allowed to sen through our relay. Mystery solved
12:38 Bmagic phew, I was losing my mind
12:39 jeff phew. next time, keep the above in mind also. :-)
12:40 jeff my understanding is that time of day can also influence carrier SMTP to SMS gateways.

Results for 2023-12-14

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10:16 csharp_ Bmagic> Dyrcona: Just testing my tarball, and I got this while building the old concerto set: psql:assets_concerto.sql:58: ERROR:  update or delete on table "record_entry" violates foreign key constraint "browse_entry_def_map_source_fkey" on table "browse_entry_def_map"
10:16 csharp_ terranm saw that same error yesterday - currently trying to reproduce it
10:18 csharp_ and.... no, I can't reproduce it on 3.12.0
10:18 csharp_ (from git, not tarball, if that matters)
10:21 Bmagic csharp_++
10:22 Bmagic I don't think the build process messes with the concerto set, but, of course, the base schema build is there in the rel_11 branch. I would think that if there was an issue with the schema, the enhanced concerto would have the problem too
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16:22 adam_reid ok, thats fair, so does Evergreen need to be aware of the page earlier in the process?
16:22 jeff just the tt2 bits, or Evergreen variables/functions also?
16:23 jeff do you have the tt2 source somewhere? that would answer some of the questions. it sounds like public data?
16:23 adam_reid I'm not 100% the difference, I think just the tt2 bits
16:24 adam_reid no source anywhere yet, to test the idea I basically just made a blank test page, I assumed it would resolve but didn't expect to be asked to login by default
16:24 jeff which path did you put it at?
16:25 adam_reid at the time /openils/var/templates_custom/opac/test.tt2
16:26 adam_reid I figured if the simple test worked I would start to see what was possible, the page was essentially blank, once logged in everything worked fine, pulled in a few carousels and they worked
16:26 adam_reid just didn't want users to need to log in
16:30 terranm I'm not 100% certain, but you may need to add it into EGCatLoader.pm to route
16:31 terranm Example - https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fc361e​eb6759c7af074b14f8faa9b9c4d37bbb77
16:34 adam_reid interesting... right, seems that addition would've required a similar setup, looks like a great place to start looking, THANKS terranm
16:39 jeff depending on your needs, you can drop a tt2 file in a place outside of the opac dir, like (using your example above) /openils/var/templates_custom/local/test.tt2
16:40 jeff (without needing to define a route, etc)
16:41 terranm jeff++
16:44 * JBoyer Eg tarballs rebuilt, uploaded, and updated.
16:44 adam_reid interesting, thanks jeff. I'll play around with that too!

Results for 2023-12-13

09:26 Dyrcona sandbergja++
09:28 * Dyrcona ponders how much the PHP Evergreen objects should resemble their Perl counterparts.... There are two ways I could implement property access, and one is similar to the Perl way, the other is more like public property access. I could do both.
09:30 jmurray-isl For some reason, the concept of "PHP Evergreen objects" leaves a bad taste.
09:32 Dyrcona jmurray-isl: I have reasons for implementing Evergreen client code with PHP, mainly to do with testing Aspen code changes. I'm going a bit farther than I might actually need to go and implementing actual classes for a client, fieldmapper, requests, objects, and probably another to represent class metadata.
09:38 pinesol News from commits: Docs: release notes for 3.11.2 <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=82d206​eebd22b89a9ea002cb58188adf1c84169d>
09:39 jmurray-isl Dyrcona: I get it.  It's mostly just the principle for me.
09:41 Dyrcona jmurray-isl++
09:46 jmurray-isl Indeed.
09:47 Dyrcona CLI programming in PHP is a different thing, and it's easier/better in some ways.
09:48 jmurray-isl Agreed.  My initial work with VuFind was pre-Zend.  The cli harvest scripts were much easier to troubleshoot.
09:51 Dyrcona I kind of like using the interactive mode (aka REPL) for testing code. The only problem is having to restart when I change a class definition. (In Lisp, I can just reload the file and it will replace the existing code definitions.)
09:54 sandbergja Dyrcona: 3.10.4 release notes pushed
09:56 Dyrcona sandbergja++
09:56 mmorgan sandbergja++
11:28 Dyrcona Looks like just --disabled-password.
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11:30 Dyrcona yeah, i know... I should script this with ansible.
11:40 kmlussier Dyrcona: On the other hand, it's always good to have an opportunity to test the steps in the README.
11:46 Dyrcona Oof. have to start over. I started installing prerequisites for the wrong branch.
11:53 Dyrcona Maybe another burrito will help?
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14:08 pinesol News from commits: Docs: final updates to 3.12 release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=807fb5​cf59f4ba65a4d668cfbf87627fbf36ebb9>
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14:14 jmurray-isl win 2
14:16 Dyrcona Live tests are failing. Guess I'll need to figure out what I did wrong.
14:18 Dyrcona heh. --load-all-sample might help. :)
14:23 Dyrcona yeah, that's much better.
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16:09 pinesol News from commits: LP2046362 Button type for staff portal catalog search <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=533b9e​5bcc11dc99bd5a0d1393bb8a46934c7d18>
16:09 pinesol News from commits: Forward port 3.10.3 to 3.10.4 db upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6d73e​faac01e2604d6871d1bcf704b4fcb41f14>
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16:20 Bmagic Dyrcona: Just testing my tarball, and I got this while building the old concerto set: psql:assets_concerto.sql:58: ERROR:  update or delete on table "record_entry" violates foreign key constraint "browse_entry_def_map_source_fkey" on table "browse_entry_def_map"
16:21 Bmagic oops, Dyrcona's not here
16:27 Bmagic enhanced concerto loaded ok though
16:27 Bmagic not sure if that's "ok" but I've put the tarball on the web server (I think that the concerto issue isn't related to the tarball)

Results for 2023-12-12

15:10 mmorgan No updates this month due to release business, but I'm fine with keeping it as an action item.
15:10 Dyrcona #action mmorgan will explore moving LP stats to community site and automating same
15:10 Dyrcona OK. Carrying it forward.
15:11 Dyrcona #info sandbergja will investigate getting more tests into gh actions
15:11 sandbergja bug 2044141 adds the OPAC js tests to run in github actions
15:11 pinesol Launchpad bug 2044141 in Evergreen "Run OPAC javascript unit tests in github actions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2044141
15:11 Dyrcona Awesome sauce.
15:11 sandbergja I'm interested in seeing if gh actions can run the pgtap tests next
15:12 Dyrcona #info  bug 2044141 adds the OPAC js tests to run in github actions
15:12 sandbergja I'm okay keeping this item assigned to me
15:12 Dyrcona I was just about to ask.
15:12 Dyrcona #action sandbergja will see if gh actions can run the pgtap tests
15:13 Dyrcona Ok. Unless anyone has anything else to say about previous action items, I'll move on to
15:13 Dyrcona #topic OpenSRF Releases
15:13 Dyrcona #info OpenSRF 3.2.4 and 3.3.0-beta released 2023-12-05
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15:14 Dyrcona I would post a link to the email, but I think that got trickier recently.
15:14 JBoyer I'm planning to take a look at the beta for some testing soon
15:15 Dyrcona I've been using the main branch on most of my test systems so far, so I guess I'm using the beta now... I'll check and make sure.
15:16 Dyrcona i added to the next topic before the meeting, so if you haven't yet, you might want to reload the agenda in your browser.
15:16 Dyrcona #topic Evergreen Releases
15:16 Dyrcona #info Evergreen 3.12 release candidate available 2023-12-06
16:08 Dyrcona Two would be all of them, woudn't it?
16:08 JBoyer I'm not sure voting will do much unless a "yes" vote is taken as volunteering to take part
16:09 JBoyer and yes, it's just 3.10.4 and 3.11.2 tomorrow
16:09 Dyrcona jeff: That's possible already. I've done it for test releases.
16:09 JBoyer (or whenever)
16:09 jeff Dyrcona: good! it's possible that no "ensuring" is needed.
16:09 Dyrcona I'll volunteer to build and upload 3.10.whatever, if we can get other roles fileld.

Results for 2023-12-11

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16:20 Dyrcona Sure. I'll just "steal" the CurlWrapper PHP class from Aspen, then make "simple" OSRFGatewayClient and EvergreenFieldmapper classes so I can write programs to test alternate back end calls for Aspen with PHP....Now, I'm thinking I need an OSRFRequest class, possibly an OSRFSession class, and more!
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Results for 2023-12-08

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09:08 * Dyrcona should implement a Fieldmapper that doesn't depend on OpenSRF being installed.
09:16 Dyrcona Guess I'll just copy the Aspen PHP code today because I want to play with enhancements to the Aspen Evergreen driver.
09:17 Dyrcona And.... I don't want to install Aspen to test things before submitting pull requests.
09:24 Dyrcona Oh, nifty.... Aspen looks up each class from the IDL as it needs it, but caches the results in memcached. I was gonna just grab the whole IDL at the start of a program and parse it.
09:27 Bmagic Dyrcona++
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12:41 Dyrcona Yeah, search and replace was faster to do.
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13:01 * Dyrcona caused a deadlock on a test database. yay..... whatever....
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13:43 Dyrcona There are two URLs where one can get the IDL aren't there?
13:46 Dyrcona Oh, right.
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15:30 Dyrcona "They say these days are made of rust..." Or should that be Rust? Eh, berick?
15:33 Stompro I'm looking at how Aspen categorizes things as fiction/non-fiction... and it categorizes poetry as Fiction by default?  Which seems wrong for how Libraries usually categorize things.
15:33 Dyrcona Command line programming with PHP: I don't recommend it if you don't need to for some crazy reason... like oh, testing  the Aspen Evergreen driver without installing Aspen.
15:35 Dyrcona Stompro: Most of that comes from the MARC, I wager. Not sure if poetry can also say "fiction" in the coded values/wherever that lives, but I've seen lots of crazy stuff in MARC records over the years...decades.
15:36 Dyrcona Come to think of it, I don't recommend web programming with PHP, either.
15:36 Dyrcona :)

Results for 2023-12-07

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08:54 Dyrcona Do the Angular and AngularJS tests work with Firefox and Chromium snaps?
08:58 Dyrcona Apparently not: Firefox have not captured in 60000 ms, killing.
08:59 Dyrcona snaps--
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09:07 mantis1 I have commands for it but just wanted to check before I try
09:08 Dyrcona You can remotely delete branches if you own them.
09:09 mantis1 Drycona++
09:20 Dyrcona How long should the nightwatch tests run? I suspect that they're not working with the firefox snap.
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09:32 Dyrcona Maybe it was doing something. I see output in logs/.
09:44 Dyrcona Yeah. ng e2e works with the Firefox snap.

Results for 2023-12-06

15:12 pinesol berick: go with Canapés
15:13 Dyrcona csharp_++ I'll have to investigate Iron & Wine.
15:15 Dyrcona Oh, I guess my other mistake was "CASE" after "END" in a values list. Postgres complained about the syntax.
15:17 Dyrcona I suppose I should come up with some pgtap tests for the db changes.
15:20 Dyrcona Now that I think about it, those two commits might be wrong. The auto_renewal column isn't used to mean auto-renewal is allowed. It means that the renewal was an auto-renewal, doesn't it......
15:23 mantis1 Question on this commit: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fb7e31​fd790074a1b62c882913395400223556ad
15:23 mantis1 I would like to remove the po files from the commit.  What I have been doing is git rm <file> after checking out the working branch locally then saved the commit, but after I pushed, the files remained
15:49 Dyrcona "As we get older...Stop making sense. You won't find her waiting long...."
15:50 Dyrcona Talking Heads come around on the shuffle again.
16:23 Dyrcona t/regress/lp1773452_copy_state_post_checkin.pg:11: ERROR:  null value in column "auto_renewal_remaining" of relation "circulation" violates not-null constraint
16:23 Dyrcona Looks like I get to update another test, too.
16:28 Dyrcona But, wait! There's more!
16:32 Dyrcona I bet I've broken some perl tests, too. I'll have to check those tomorrow.
16:35 Dyrcona it's gonna be fun going through the circ and staff client code making sure that the auto_renewal fields actually get a value put into them. I suppose i could cop out and add 'default 0'.
16:36 Dyrcona pgtap tests have been updated at least.
16:38 Dyrcona Might be strange for me to say this, but we need more tests.
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Results for 2023-12-05

10:19 berick sandbergja: branch updated. thanks for the heads up.
10:19 sandbergja Thanks, berick!
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10:27 Dyrcona I sometimes think our triggers are out of hand. I'm updating tcn_source on 10,000 bib records and according to ps it's using 16GB of RAM and 88% of a CPU on my test database.
10:27 Dyrcona I'm pretty sure it's mostly being used by the maintain 901 trigger, which is actually why I am doing this.
10:32 Dyrcona I wonder if using a transaction and deferring all triggers would help with the speed of this?
10:36 Dyrcona Actually, it's probably smple rec and some of the other triggers, too. I'm not sure I want to disable simple rec in a transaction. I'll have to investigate the triggers a bit more.
10:40 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 (follow-up): Update DOM selector in nightwatch test <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=bddc37​2d27e4ac9298ef6d265534c3b14529b2a2>
10:41 Dyrcona No, I don't want to disable any triggers. It would lead to locking and possible dead locks. Setting session replication role is overkill since it disables all triggers.
10:45 Dyrcona Looks like the ingest triggers are getting fired, too, but they.... Oh wait. The marc changes....
10:53 Dyrcona Trying different batch sizes, with a limit on a subquery, It did 10 in 5 seconds 100 in 26 seconds and 1000 took 4 minutes 23 seconds and used a lot more memory.
13:27 Dyrcona --csv option to psql doesn't properly quote strings apparently.
13:28 Dyrcona ha! I'm not paying enough attention. LibreOffice had a "from row" 1322 still set on the CSV import from the other day.
13:30 Dyrcona The delete was attempted multiple times.
13:59 csharp_ Dyrcona: waiting can be just waiting - becomes a deadlock when two processes start waiting on each other
14:00 csharp_ but seems like a matter of time - I'm nervously watching a very slow parallel reingest on a test server and many of the PG procs are in "waiting" state
14:01 csharp_ reingest began ~11:30 a.m. yesterday - a little over half done per the batch count
14:07 Dyrcona csharp_: My case was nearly catastrophic. Cascading deadlocks stemming from a process trying to delete a staff account with thousands of owned records. It was acquisitions account. The person doing the delete tried it at least 3 more times after the first timed out in the client.
14:10 Dyrcona This sort of thing used to happen so much in Horizon with Sybase, that I made a little GUI in Java to show me the deadlocked processes. From that I could identify the most likely culprit process. I could then click its row in the table, type Ctrl-k and that would send the Sybase equivalent of pg_cancel_backend. Every now and then, I consider adapting that to PostgreSQL and Evergreen.
14:13 Dyrcona Looks like someone was also loading MARC order records at the same time. I may have clobbered their backend process, not sure. I tried to only cancel the delete_usr queries.
14:23 Dyrcona Speaking of long-running processes my update of tcn_source on 530,105 bibs where it is '' has been running for 1day, 5 hours, and 27 minutes at this point.
14:25 Dyrcona Fortunately, that is on a test system, or I'd have probably had to cancel it for deadlocks.
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15:01 csharp_ Dyrcona: holy moly

Results for 2023-12-04

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15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP#2045581 Test Failure on Main today <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b72137​59bebdec1259f46d863dec25575913661d>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 Temporarily silence ESLint in bad HTML <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea2d0d​dc0aba3d5b589c800bbdeba55192df2bb2>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 Manually silence ESLint HTML errors <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=63ca3d​0ea60b7a9d4b3a65f54b769fb3b725ee89>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 More button linting <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c08cca​dbeff1b077b00386c8a0d17e658b574c50>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 Lint issues with base accesskey anchors <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=490fea​284c7190c0d2255231d28c97f71bf6d2ff>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 More button lint issues <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb3376​232a8a950d5ea3d3a8383b6b15f03dcb90>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 Change links to buttons <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=544630​57e75b748aa6c34dd28e0a117d29cf172a>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473 Fix button type lint errors <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5cd7f​e3dfa59a9d017d06f8c2b77515f3b340fa>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473: manual and automated eslint fixes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef751a​dd7ac424e396bdb2735c4a0ed11252419d>
15:08 pinesol News from commits: LP1850473: Add eslint rules <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b51d7b​7a611f5535bc94470932fc586e75174662>
15:10 sleary We can't add the "needsrebase" tag in bulk, can we? :(
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15:18 Dyrcona sleary: Can't really do anything in bulk on launchpad without using the APIs, and then there are limits.

Results for 2023-12-01

13:49 kmlussier jeffdavis: When I started, the community was on 1.6. I remember at our first MassLNC meeting, Dyrcona was telling us we should all be looking to migrate to 2.0 because it would have all the new stuff coming with the KCLS grant. In the end, we went live with later releases, but I can't forget all the hype around that one particular release.
13:49 kmlussier 3.5 doesn't seem long ago to me because it happened after I left.
14:00 Dyrcona For us 3.5.3 was April of 2021. I had a quick look at our old 3.5.3 branch and didn't see anything in the DB upgrade. I bet there was a patch to Vandelay or something like that.
14:05 Dyrcona I think I'm going to have to postpone my fix test until Monday at the latest. It doesn't look like my script to dump the pretest data for later comparison with post-test data is going to finish in a reasonable time.
14:06 Dyrcona My test db refreshes this Sunday morning, so I'd have to do this all over again anyway.
14:09 Dyrcona The '80s were just 20 years ago, right? :)
14:13 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, they absolutely were. Please don't tell me any differently.
14:13 kmlussier And I'm still 39 years old.

Results for 2023-11-30

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09:39 Dyrcona due_date: "3812-01-17 23:59:59-05"  Sure, that's plausible.
09:40 mmorgan :)
09:41 Dyrcona And, it looks like a test or someone was messing with due dates. It was checked in in 2018.
09:41 mmorgan Or a barcode got scanned into the due date field?
09:42 Dyrcona mmorgan: That might be a possibility. 38120 looks like a valid item barcode prefix for Massachusetts.
09:43 Dyrcona I think I need to do something more sophisticated than just select max(due_date) from action.circulation; :)
09:43 Bmagic jeffdavis: are you working on SSO for Evergreen staff client?
09:44 Dyrcona I'm looking for things I can renew in my test database with a script to try out the osrf-gateway-v1.
09:44 Dyrcona I can wait until next week. The data should be refreshed on Sunday.
09:51 Dyrcona Think I'll give it a shot anyway.
10:03 Dyrcona Hm. Left joins with a where clause on "right_table.columns is null" seem to be a lot faster in Pg 15 than in Pg 10.
11:14 csharp_ eeevil: yeah, I didn't consider FTPS in my branch
11:14 csharp_ eeevil: yeah, that's a mistake - shouldn't have removed libnet-ssh-perl
11:14 eeevil well, yes, but just on the SFTP addition, it removes (it looks like) SSH support
11:14 csharp_ sorry libnet-ssh2-perl
11:15 csharp_ I removed it in the makefiles but still call it in the perl - that would have been caught in the fleetingist of testing
11:15 eeevil right, it might still get installed as a dep, which would be fine
11:15 csharp_ yeah
11:16 eeevil but, it looks like pure ssh2 support gets broken
11:20 Dyrcona Net::STFP::Foreign does not use libnet-ssh-perl unles you tell it to. That's actually the point of Net::SFTP::Foreign. It defaults to using the sftp client on the host.
11:21 * Dyrcona uses Net::SFTP::Foreign in several utility scripts.
11:22 Dyrcona berick++ jeff++ Thanks for the answers. I thought I was missing a couple.
11:23 Dyrcona I have another question, but I'll check the code, too. I think it's possible to login with user id and not barcode or username, right? I'm working on a program to test OPAC renewals through osrf-gateway-v1, in case anyone missed it.
11:23 csharp_ eeevil: are you looking at the latest I pushed?  I see the sub delete with } elsif ($self->type eq "SFTP") {
11:23 csharp_ or maybe I'm misunderstanding...
11:24 Dyrcona FTPS.... Ugh. Someone actually uses that?
11:34 csharp_ jeez, y'all
11:34 csharp_ don't you know libraries are still excited about Web 2.0?
11:34 eeevil "upload your EDI messages to the blockchain and..."
11:35 csharp_ eeevil++
11:37 csharp_ eeevil: with my code in place, tlittle and I were able to push files to a PINES-owned SFTP server - that's all the testing we've done
11:38 csharp_ tlittle has asked Ingram for a test account to push prod files to but that request appears to have flummoxed them
11:39 eeevil csharp_++
11:39 eeevil tlittle++
11:44 eeevil it certainly looks like it will work. though, to retain SSH/SCP support, the DESTROY sub should simply add an sftp->disconnect in addition to the ssh2->disconnect. other than that, maybe the need to implement delete_sftp, I don't see any obvious problems

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13:15 jeffdavis More specifically, our test environment remained somewhat slow after applying the fix, but I believe the remaining slowness was for other reasons. We decided not to enable DYM so we effectively stopped testing the fix at a certain point; it's possible that it introduces other issues, but no point in delaying the fix over such hypotheticals.
13:16 jeffdavis "other reasons" = slower hardware + that unrelated bug that required disabling a PG "optimization"
13:41 Dyrcona jeffdavis: I have not experienced the issue that "requires" disabling jit.
13:42 Dyrcona I'm using Pg 15 for quite a bit of testing. Of course, the VPN to where that server is just went down, so.....
13:42 jeffdavis required it on our test server, that is - we haven't seen it in production
13:43 Dyrcona I was in the middle of installing updates.... I'll have to check when I get access again. I might have disabled JIT after you reported the issue, but I also wanted to test your queries with JIT enabled.
13:44 pinesol News from commits: LP#2038472: stamp DB update <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=10527e​c78952a27d447f675a93d13e2846fa7ae6>
13:44 pinesol News from commits: LP#2038472: Revive DYM optimizations <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f72e2​2bc23ae887fefd98074a7415e852fcb4c0>
13:44 Dyrcona I knew that I should have just started my test program in a tmux session and installed updates after.
13:45 Dyrcona The test was not related to JIT, but to checking in and deleting copies from a spreadsheet.
13:51 Dyrcona VPN is definitely down. Wonder if the site also lost Internet?
13:53 Dyrcona I suppose I could test the changes to command line options on a local vm.
14:11 jihpringle joined #evergreen
14:12 Dyrcona Well, that looks like it will work. Guess I can test it on the training server.
14:16 csharp_ @decide open-ils.serial or open-ils.cereal

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