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pinesol |
News from commits: LP#1384796: stamp DB update <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ecf08ec52a29cf9507795f3be2c66f6248c9d7a> |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP1384796: Fix asset.copy_template valid_fine_level constraint <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=226b43bab0b3c04f776b464d0ab4958944c404a0> |
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* Dyrcona |
cringes at mistakes in his commit messages. |
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mantis1 |
we have a new systems specialist starting today and we're running through an evergreen install for his first project |
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| 10:51 |
mantis1 |
what's an example of a tarball download? I haven't done it before |
| 10:52 |
Dyrcona |
mantis1: You get the tarballs here: https://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ |
| 10:53 |
mantis1 |
Dyrcona: we're doing this via VirtualBox (Ubuntu server) to get him used to command line |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
Use wget or cURL to download onto vitrual box, or just install it from git. I prefer the latter. |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
To install 3.12 via tarball, you'll want to download these two: https://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/opensrf-3.3.0.tar.gz and https://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/Evergreen-ILS-3.12.0a.tar.gz |
| 10:55 |
Rogan |
I wonder if anyone has strong feelings on git vs tarball, I think most people use git but I've never heard anyone vigorously argue one over the other |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
I suggested that we stop making tarballs once and got push back. |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
We could always just tag releases in git. |
| 10:56 |
Rogan |
I recall that vaguely |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
I think the logic is that tarballs may be easier for new users or people who just want to try Evergreen out. |
| 10:57 |
mmorgan |
What Dyrcona said :) |
| 10:59 |
Rogan |
oh yeah, and I wasn't proposing there weren't reasons, just an idle thought about if anyone has strong feelings. I mean there are people that will get into cage matches about vi vs emacs so you never know who has strong feelings about something you don't think about much. |
| 11:00 |
Rogan |
probably could toss nano into that cage match I suppose |
| 11:00 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:01 |
Dyrcona |
I don't do cage matches any more...bad for the back... I get enough abuse from Emacs key chords. :) |
| 11:01 |
Rogan |
btw, I'm not in that cage match - if your editor works for you then power to you :) |
| 11:01 |
Rogan |
heh |
| 11:02 |
berick |
by the same token, a couple of git checkout commands are gravy compared to the rest of the eg/osrf install docs. |
| 11:03 |
Rogan |
and I've made use of berick's ansible scripts to automate it when wanting to just throw something up quick(ish) for testing |
| 11:05 |
berick |
but tarballs have pre-compiled / pre-downloaded stuff, so it's more than just a checkout, of course. |
| 11:18 |
csharp_ |
mantis1: just a quick warning about virtualbox (or any VM running on a PC/laptop) - make sure the RAM is sufficient to run a VM that takes 4GB RAM minimum, and probably 2 CPUs |
| 11:20 |
csharp_ |
mantis1: at GPLS we used to repurpose older servers or even PCs to run as a dedicated VM host, but that might be a rabbit hole |
| 11:21 |
csharp_ |
if I were truly starting from the beginning, I would start with a tarball unless the person is already comfortable/proficient with git |
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* csharp_ |
went from reference desk to PINES admin in a period of about a month in summer 2008 |
| 11:22 |
csharp_ |
that was pre-autotools, pre-git, pre-Launchpad, pre-community |
| 11:26 |
csharp_ |
(btw, that's not a brag, I was lost for about a year and a half :-) ) |
| 11:35 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, 4GB of RAM and 2 CPUs is pretty much the minimum to do anything. |
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berick |
today still the deadline for conf proposals? |
| 11:58 |
jihpringle |
berick: it's been extended to the 19th |
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| 12:06 |
berick |
jihpringle: ah, thanks |
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mantis1 |
csharp++ |
| 12:14 |
mantis1 |
csharp: it's mostly an exercise just to get him used to terminal commands but thank you I haven't used VM in a while |
| 12:15 |
mantis1 |
berick: we extended to the 19th |
| 12:15 |
mantis1 |
so you definitely have some time |
| 12:15 |
mantis1 |
a few have asked for a short extension so they can get everything in order for the submissions |
| 12:16 |
mantis1 |
sorry-I forgot to adjust the description part of the form |
| 12:16 |
mantis1 |
but it's good now: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjPGS3IZYkJxNZslkYaUYfwX24QxXRktrDvALM6E1jQZfGhQ/viewform?usp=sf_link |
| 12:19 |
berick |
mantis1: thanks! |
| 12:22 |
csharp_ |
mantis1++ |
| 12:24 |
bshum |
mantis1: I'll be curious if 4 GB of RAM Is sufficient for a small test VM. I feel like I was bumping up on problems last time I sized something that small, and it worked better with 6-8 |
| 12:25 |
bshum |
Might just be my tricky memory. |
| 12:25 |
mantis1 |
berick++ |
| 12:25 |
mantis1 |
bshum: we did allocate more ram out I believe but I'll send an update on specs and how this goes |
| 12:25 |
csharp_ |
bshum: you're probably right, but I'm guessing the RAM on a typical laptop/PC is maybe 8GB? and Windows is a hog |
| 12:26 |
csharp_ |
(assuming we're talking about Windows 10/11 prolly?) |
| 12:26 |
bshum |
csharp_: Oh certainly. Windows :P |
| 12:26 |
Dyrcona |
With KVM on a Linux host 4GB is enough for basic testing. If you really want to do something with it, you'll need more RAM. |
| 12:26 |
bshum |
@karma Microsoft |
| 12:26 |
pinesol |
bshum: Microsoft has neutral karma. |
| 12:29 |
csharp_ |
given Microsoft's relatively recent tolerance and sometimes support of open source software, they don't get as much negative karma from me as they used to :-) |
| 12:30 |
bshum |
I can see that :D |
| 12:30 |
Dyrcona |
Microwho? |
| 12:30 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 12:31 |
Dyrcona |
Oh, right! The company that bought GitHub.... :) |
| 12:31 |
csharp_ |
why is no software called |
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csharp_ |
SoftServe? |
| 12:32 |
Dyrcona |
Isn't that basically what a virtual machine is, as softserver? |
| 12:32 |
csharp_ |
yeah, that works |
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Dyrcona |
I think bug 2047962 is a duplicate of bug 1133464, but I hesitate to do the Launchpad thing. |
| 13:24 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2047962 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Cover Images from MARC record URLS to appear in OPACs from MARC record URLS to appear in OPAC" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2047962 |
| 13:24 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1133464 in Evergreen "Use cover image/blurb URL from field 856" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1133464 |
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csharp_ |
@who did the Launchpad thing? |
| 14:11 |
pinesol |
jonadab did the Launchpad thing. |
| 14:12 |
csharp_ |
speaking of doing the Launchpad thing, I'm interested again in trying to use the LP API to make release management easier |
| 14:12 |
Dyrcona |
csharp_: Did you get a copy of the scripts I used to use? |
| 14:12 |
jeff |
It's been a while since I made use of it, but I think the API still exists, with at least one functional client. |
| 14:13 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona: I had them at one point, but I don't remember |
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csharp_ |
heh redavis_reboot is an interesting nick |
| 14:15 |
csharp_ |
maybe a New Year, New Me? |
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csharp_ |
even better |
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Dyrcona |
Is Hard Rebo any relation to Max Rebo? |
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Dyrcona |
csharp_: I'm going to put my lp scripts into a zip file and put them somewhere anyone can get them. |
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csharp_ |
@band add Character Limit |
| 14:18 |
pinesol |
csharp_: Band 'Character Limit' added to list |
| 14:18 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona: thanks! |
| 14:18 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think they work, but it's somewhere to start. |
| 14:18 |
csharp_ |
yeah - better to know existing tools |
| 14:19 |
csharp_ |
@band add Redavis Reboot and [someone] |
| 14:19 |
pinesol |
csharp_: Band 'Redavis Reboot and gmcharlt' added to list |
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Dyrcona |
csharp_: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UHNKpVvAWqjqW0XMD8rtQGUHU4W_Q6vy/view?usp=sharing |
| 14:46 |
mmorgan |
Dyrcona++ |
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redavis |
Noice! |
| 14:51 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona++ |
| 14:54 |
Dyrcona |
Aw, shucks. |
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JBoyer |
Looking forward to the forthcoming gaming soundtrack from Character Limit Break |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP#2044141 (follow-up) tweaks to OPAC tests GitHub action <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=631c7be752a7c9f5d5b91e26d24be949d0c7a4ea> |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP2044141: Run javascript unit tests in github actions <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=514ad0c2c1b845d501a820d0d28b4fe2caede1e7> |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP#2046970 Poorly Cropped Reports Icon <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=db508c9037a44cc08dcf0a9f1ef102a70fe3542d> |
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