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10:50 Dyrcona Grr. gnu.org is down.
10:55 Dyrcona csharp_: I recall we were discussing grub config on Ubuntu, or maybe it was JBoyer.... Anyway, I figured out why grub never honors certain options on Ubuntu. There is a check in the generated gub.cfg script that disables recordfail support. This, in turn, bypasses the timeout_style and timeout settings in /etc/default/grub
10:58 Dyrcona Refrain: I don't have this problem on Arch. :)
11:36 eby https://www.datadoghq.com/blog/engine​ering/debugging-postgres-performance/
11:38 csharp_ I think that must have been JBoyer, but that's good to know
11:39 csharp_ eby++ # keep them links comin'
11:39 Dyrcona eby++
11:39 Dyrcona csharp_: It was quite some time ago when the grub discussion happened.
11:39 csharp_ ah
11:42 * Dyrcona gets closer to Linux from Scratch every day. :)
11:44 Dyrcona Apparently, starting the Emacs daemon as a user Systemd service and switching to running Emacs Client has solved 1 of my Emacs issues on Ubuntu. Maybe I should move this to #ubuntu and see if I get flamed. :)
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11:59 eby they will just send you to https://snapcraft.io/emacs
12:02 Dyrcona Yeah, most likely.
12:03 Dyrcona In that case, maybe I should go here: https://flathub.org/en/apps/org.gnu.emacs
12:06 Dyrcona Or here: https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/
12:06 Dyrcona Look at that. Lunch time! It's a nice day. Think I'll take my lunch outside.
12:13 abneiman is LP down or is my country internet doing its thing?
12:17 collum It's down.
12:18 mmorgan abneiman: LP is slow to load for me right now, but I got there.
12:18 collum It's timing out for me.
12:22 abneiman collum++ mmorgan++ thanks for checking!
12:25 jeff I believe the latest is still from 3 days ago, "Canonical’s web infrastructure is under a sustained, cross-border attack and we are working to address it. We will provide more information in our official channels as soon as we are able to."
12:25 jeff https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/update-concern​ing-ddos-attack-on-canonical-and-ubuntu/81482
12:26 jeff launchpad bugs list for Evergreen loaded for me after a little bit of delay.
12:27 jeff trying to load details on a bug timed out.
12:28 jeff then Chrome retried, and it loaded quickly. :shrug:
12:36 JBoyer If I've looked at / talked about Ubuntu and grub it must have been 7+ years ago, so maybe, who knows!
12:39 jeff @band search grubby
12:39 pinesol jeff: OK BOOMER
12:39 jeff huh.
12:39 csharp_ pinesol++
12:39 csharp_ yeah, @band was left behind
12:40 csharp_ we'll have to re-write some of those fun ones
12:40 jeff huh. noted and willdo!
12:40 csharp_ jeff++
12:40 csharp_ somebody in code4lib expressed interest in python3-izing the old zoia plugins
12:41 jeff yep, saw. thanks!
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14:27 Dyrcona Guess that DDOS is still ongoing. Canonical servers are still slow to respond at times.
14:27 Dyrcona It's not just Lp. Updates are taking a long time.
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14:30 Dyrcona Yeahp. Timing out on every update in this session.
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14:39 Dyrcona "Unable to fetch some archives."
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14:45 Dyrcona And, Lp is fine but the update mirrors are not.
14:49 Dyrcona git log --grep carg
14:50 Dyrcona ha. wrong window, obviously.
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15:08 Dyrcona I wonder if Canonical is being DDOS'd to prevent people from downloading patches for the copy fail vulnerability?
15:18 berick mirrors seem to be working OK
15:18 Dyrcona I may have to change my mirror list.
15:20 eby https://status.canonical.com/
15:22 Dyrcona Well, I seem to be getting something from security.ubunu.com.
15:22 Dyrcona Does MIT mirror Ubuntu? I use MIT for a few other things: OpenBSD, Arch....
15:23 eby https://mirrors.mit.edu/
15:24 eby looks like they cover most of the major players
15:24 Dyrcona eby: I'm 1 step ahead of you this time. :)
15:24 berick and http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/US.txt
15:25 Dyrcona berick++
15:25 eby some projects i wasn't aware of in that lsit
15:26 Dyrcona Ah, xmisison.com.... used to use their mirrors for Slackware and others back in the day.
15:27 Dyrcona Ok. After this failure, I'm switch to MIT at least for now.
15:30 eby you can also do deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt as your mirror and it will supposedly geo choose based on current ip location, but previously it didn't handle dead mirrors well. that might have changed in recent apt
15:30 eby or whatever txt file of mirrors
15:32 * Dyrcona looks up how to configure the list with the new ubuntu.sources format.
15:38 Dyrcona Oh, really. That simple? ... But it's still slow getting the mirror list.
15:41 eby i tried it once and the closest mirror always seemed to be the slowest so ended up going with MIT, michigan tech, etc
15:42 Dyrcona MIT is about 30 minutes from home by car, so I'm going with them. :)
15:42 Dyrcona mirrors.txt was picking on the main canonical archives.
15:45 Dyrcona heh. In the time I've spent on this, i could have gone there and back with a tape. :)
15:48 eby hopefully wasn't just an 'already up to date'
15:48 Dyrcona No, I did get 1 update to work earlier today, so I needed the new kernel.
15:48 Dyrcona upgrade was failing.
15:51 Dyrcona Well, this is cool if apt.postresql.org ever has issues: https://postgresql.csail.mit.edu/repos/apt/dists/
15:52 Dyrcona Oh! Looking again that mirror is a bit out of date.
15:58 Dyrcona "Stonking Stingray?"
15:59 Dyrcona I usually name my vms for the adjective part of the release codename, but for stonking, I might switch it.... Though I'm not sure if I prefer "resolute" or "raccoon."
16:00 Dyrcona Well, I usually only do LTS releases, so I guess I'll probably skip "Stonking Stingray."
16:03 csharp_ abneiman: jinx!  I just answered that LP "answer" too
16:05 csharp_ Dyrcona: I thought you were joking :-/
16:06 Dyrcona Well, it would be "cool" to have a "stonking" vm, but....
16:07 csharp_ mind your stonking business
16:07 Dyrcona :)
16:07 Dyrcona Stonks go up!
16:07 csharp_ ah - UK slang:
16:08 csharp_ https://dictionary.cambridge.org​/us/dictionary/english/stonking
16:08 csharp_ TIL
16:08 csharp_ never heard that word before
16:08 Dyrcona I've heard it before. I associate it with the mid '80s for some reason. Maybe on some Brit show I watched on PBS.
16:09 csharp_ I'm at the age where I'm surprised when I encounter new things :-)
16:09 csharp_ or 45 year old things, at that
16:10 Dyrcona Who you callin' old? The '80s were just ..... Oh.
16:10 csharp_ exactly
16:10 csharp_ listening to 1985 R.E.M. right this minute
16:12 Dyrcona INXS, but it's from 1993.
16:13 Dyrcona "you think it's easy 'cause you don't know the feelin'"
16:13 jeff @who is really into rock bands from the late 1900s?
16:13 pinesol jeff: user opensr does not exist
16:13 jeff never mind, pinesol.
16:13 csharp_ yeah, we're gonna have to kick into action on those
16:13 csharp_ pinesol: you need you some book learnin
16:13 pinesol csharp_: http://cat.evergreen-ils.org.meowbify.com/
16:14 csharp_ aw - I'm sorry that doesn't work anymore
16:14 Dyrcona For me, that's low on the priority list. I've been mucking with updates when i should be working on something else.
16:14 csharp_ (meowbify replaced web images with kitty cats)
16:15 csharp_ Dyrcona: it's the perfect rabbit hole to pull me away from the bills-related datawork I don't wanna do
16:15 csharp_ why couldn't libraries have gone fines-free in 2006, huh?
16:16 Dyrcona Well, the ones that still charge fines, it's like being in the '80s again....ten cents per day.
16:17 Dyrcona Most of our members are fine free on most things.
16:17 csharp_ prolly need to put on some 80s movies to match the vibe
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17:24 JBoyer The only reason worse than “we need the budget line item” that I’ve heard was something about teaching responsibility.  I dunno Doloris, after 100+ years I don’t think that message is going to land.
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