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Results for 2017-10-12

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08:50 Dyrcona Based on this line "dumpost_cfg_t *) ap_get_module_config(r->per_dir_config, &dumpost_module)" I assume that mod_dumpost can be configured per directory, so I'll give that one a shot. It can also log headers.
09:01 JBoyer Oh, yeah, dumpio was what I had used. I was using it on a test system so while it was crazy chatty it wasn't *All the things* I hope dumppost works, that sounds more generally useful.
09:04 Dyrcona I'll give it a whirl.
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09:19 Dyrcona I have to use this on production to capture what Autographics sends us. I'd rather not have to take the time to set up a test with them.
09:19 Dyrcona But, I'm gonna try it on a test vm, first.
09:21 Dyrcona @decide stay or go
09:21 pinesol_green Dyrcona: go with go
09:22 Dyrcona pinesol_green: I knew you'd say that. ;)
10:09 Dyrcona Ah, no. It looks like that line is deceiving and DumpPost configs have to be server wide.
10:26 Dyrcona JBoyer: I've logged a few messages from Autographics, and I'm surprised.
10:27 Dyrcona JBoyer: What I see blows up with the old version of HTTP::Body, too, so the change that causes the issue is elsewhere.
10:27 Dyrcona But, now I have some real data to test with.
10:34 JBoyer Dyrcona, did you manage to pull any POST info with them or just the XML? If it's not too much trouble to anonymize I could poke at it on occasional too
10:34 Dyrcona I'm grabbing the content-type head and the POST body.
10:34 Dyrcona s/(head)/\1er/
10:35 Dyrcona Since this is server-wide.
10:36 Dyrcona I've got at least 5 more messages from autographics, now.
10:37 Dyrcona I may shut it down before an hour. The file grows a few hundred KB per minute. :)
10:39 Dyrcona They're using Content-type: application/xml, and my testing shows that blows with Dancer 1.3202 with the old and the new version of HTTP::Body.
10:39 JBoyer Not as bad as dumpio but still a but chatty, yeah
10:40 Dyrcona In fact, the xml handler for HTTP::Body is the same, other than the version number.
10:40 JBoyer Huh. So something about the older version of HTTP::Body on 14.04 is why it doesn't blow up here?
13:36 JBoyer And 2, when customizing receipt templates, (checkout specifically) I
13:36 Dyrcona OK. It shouldn't be hard to recreate. Just set content-type to application/xml for one.
13:37 JBoyer ve heard from staff that they can't add patron name and barcode. Meaning that {{patron.first_given_name}} and so on works in the preview, but not on paper. Is that a regression or is the preview just ahead of the backend?
13:37 Dyrcona JBoyer might also be interested to know that after 2-1/2 hours of logging, I have 127 actual messages from autographics to test with.
13:37 dbwells Dyrcona: yes :)  In my opinion, the bug is in HTTP::Body::XForms.  It just lazily sets body to the buffer contents, which isn't going to be a handle.
13:38 Dyrcona dbwells: What's odd is that hasn't changed since 2010, and that older version "worked."
13:38 Dyrcona Unless autographics changed their content-type to coincide with our upgrade...
13:54 Dyrcona That may be easier. I'll try that first.
13:54 Dyrcona dbwells++ # again for the suggestions.
13:59 dbwells Dyrcona: trying to familiarize myself a bit with NCIPServer, figure we'll probably move in that direction sooner or later :)
14:00 kmlussier JBoyer: You might want to check in with Terran on the receipt issue. I know she did a lot of testing to see which fields worked and which didn't.
14:02 kmlussier JBoyer: When I tested the new search code, I did a lot of side-by-side testing on two different servers to try to verify the code was retrieving the same set of search results, except in cases where it was retrieving more because of the higher cap.
14:02 kmlussier I didn't see anything strange at that time, but I don't know if I limited by library from advanced search in my testing.
14:03 * kmlussier returns to trying to figure out why badges don't always show when they should.
14:19 miker JBoyer: not seeing that on demo.evergreencatalog.com ... and I can't remember you're catalog's URL
14:20 JBoyer evergreen.lib.in.us
14:21 JBoyer berick, re: bug 1656036, If I have time tomorrow to through something together I'd appreciate some thoughts, but if I can't get things together go with your plan. Like you said, it's better to get something going than continually bikeshedding this thing.
14:22 JBoyer Yeah, that metarecord search bug was driving me nuts, but I didn't see any point in letting people see it.
14:22 JBoyer I mean, as far as I know it still is, I haven't had time to track anything down. :/
14:23 JBoyer miker, a simple search that shows what I mean: search Indiana state library for title Bag of Bones (we mainly collect large print for users with poor sight) there are several results that have nothing to do with us.
14:26 miker so, I may not be testing what you're testing, but I just searched for 'harry potter' globally (773 results), went to advance search and restricted to Andrews and got what I expected (77 results) and added added a cache killer, and got the same 77 results. all hav copies at andrews AFAICT
14:26 kmlussier JBoyer: They're all ebooks?
14:26 miker or are ebooks
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14:37 miker :)
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14:42 JBoyer I'm currently rebuilding all of the app servers to hide the timings, but since it's only staff I guess it's less dire, though staff are more likely to notice anyway.
14:42 JBoyer So I'll keep looking, and that's a way to test webby to make sure it's just us.
14:48 Dyrcona dbwells++ # One more time, because hacking HTTP::Body::XForms seems to have fixed it for me. Changing NCIP::Dancing didn't work. :(
14:50 miker JBoyer: I'm not seeing this in a (quick) test at demo.evergreencatalog.com, fwiw
14:51 miker logged in as staff, obv

Results for 2017-10-11

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11:13 _adb O_o
11:14 _adb idk 'bout that, but i got cats https://i.imgur.com/g27CrKb.gifv
11:15 kmlussier :)
11:31 Dyrcona Eh, bummer. That patch hasn't fixed the problem in production. It worked on my test VM though.
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11:36 Dyrcona Maybe it did, and it didn't kick in until the second apache2 reload?
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15:22 Bmagic kernal/kernel
15:24 csharp sandbergja: also, make sure the laptop's processor is set to use virtualization (BIOS setting), otherwise vbox will not run well
15:25 csharp (might be the case with Hyper-V too, but I'd be surprised if it runs at all without that setting set already)
15:25 Bmagic sandbergja: If I am understanding that you are using docker for Windows, you can test a basic Ubuntu image without using the Evergreen container. "docker run ubuntu -it"
15:27 Bmagic Something tells me that it's not going to work due to some of the system calls being incompatible. the videos: https://vimeo.com/230985351 and https://vimeo.com/231611654
15:27 csharp Bmagic++
15:27 * csharp still needs to make time to watch the third installment
17:43 cesardv lol
17:43 * cesardv really likes halloween ><
17:44 * berick will not be trickrtreating at cesardv's house
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Results for 2017-10-10

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13:40 Dyrcona I noticed it when looking at the latest version of the Enlightenment window manager. They apparently use it.
13:41 Dyrcona Right now, I'm trying to figure out why Plack::Handler::Apache2 and Dancer::Request are not playing nice together.
13:55 Dyrcona So, I'm trying Plack from CPAN.
14:02 Dyrcona No one can answer me about running NCIPServer on Ubuntu 16.04? It is broken for me, but I swear I tested is once before and it worked.
14:21 Dyrcona Oh, lovely.
14:21 Dyrcona It's broken in production, but it just works on a test vm.
14:41 Dyrcona And, it just works for me in production when I run my test script using LWP against it.
14:41 jeff problem with the data production is receiving?
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14:51 Dyrcona Nope. Not the data.
15:29 jeff on git.evergreen-ils.org or elsewhere?
15:30 Dyrcona git.evergreen-ils.org
15:30 Dyrcona I've been chatting with some folks in #dancer on irc.perl.org.
15:30 Dyrcona The consensus there was some weird interaction of Plack::Handler::Apache2 and Dancer, but that was before I had done my own tests.
15:31 Dyrcona I even removed the packaged plack and installed it from CPAN.
15:32 jeff did it break suddenly, or is this after a known change was made?
15:32 Dyrcona Now, it think it's something "weird" in their POST requests that Apache 2.4 or the Plack handler doesn't like.
17:12 jeff stephengwills: are you trying to step through a trigger function, or do something else?
17:12 stephengwills stepping through trigger function
17:13 stephengwills still working on that 001/003 thing from this morning.  everytime I try to get out…it pulls me back in!
17:13 Bmagic stephengwills: I have been known to replace a function with one that puts more in the output using things like NOTICE along the way. On a test machine of course.
17:14 stephengwills I was thinking of doing that.  just lots of watchdog lines
17:14 Bmagic in some cases, adding columns to tables to write the debug output during execution. Maybe jeff has something better
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17:24 jeff if they don't, then they will fall back to org unit id 1, and use either that org unit's setting for cat.marc_control_number_identifier or they will use the shortname if org unit 1 does not have a value set for that setting.
17:25 stephengwills so what i really want to do is run the bre and update the owner?  on save the 003 will get fixed?
17:25 jeff where "they will fall back to org unit id 1" is better written as "then the control number identifier handling for those records will fall back to org unit id 1"
17:25 stephengwills that’s easy enough to test
17:26 jeff the global flag cat.maintain_control_numbers also needs to be enabled, but i suspect you have that set already.
17:27 stephengwills yup that’s good
17:27 stephengwills almost all of our records have a null owner
17:27 stephengwills :/
17:28 stephengwills you understand I only come here to embarress myself in from of my better, right?
17:29 stephengwills thanks
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21:18 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: updating copy buckets docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ec21eb8>
23:14 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: documentation for Record Buckets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=55edc1f>

Results for 2017-10-09

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Results for 2017-10-08

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Results for 2017-10-07

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Results for 2017-10-06

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08:11 Dyrcona Noodle [from Gorillaz] gets a holiday? Cool!
08:11 jonadab Only thing is, if you have a Happy Puppy Day, you're probably going to have to have a Cute Kitten Day too, or the cat lovers will riot.
08:12 rjackson_isl True
08:12 kmlussier Dyrcona++ #Excellent test plan for placing multiple holds
08:12 Dyrcona kmlussier: Thanks. There are also PgTap and perl tests for the backend changes.
08:13 * Dyrcona has decided that tests are good.
08:16 * csharp had an idea to develop baseline schema pgtap tests so sites know if they have everything expected by the stock install
08:16 csharp but seems like that would be a massive project
08:16 csharp actually a lot of the scripting could probably be automated
08:16 Dyrcona Some of that is there already, I think.
08:16 Dyrcona And, yes, it could be automated.
08:17 Dyrcona Query pg_catalog and related tables on a known good installation and write out the tests.
08:18 Dyrcona I still wouldn't call it trivial.
08:18 Dyrcona Might take a day or so to get it all just right.
08:18 * csharp keeps thinking of things like this, thinks, "oh, that would be great for the hackaway", then realizes how many other things exactly like that have already been mentioned :-)
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09:16 * Dyrcona shut down his gitlab test vm, but it may only be temporary.
09:16 Dyrcona I might rebuild it or move it to another server.
09:17 csharp gitlab is the front runner imho
09:17 Dyrcona I really need to make the time to look at it seriously. I think I'd like to switch to gitlab from gitolite for our local repositories, but other projects are more important.
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09:27 csharp Dyrcona: I have another server earmarked for community VMs that has more resources than current mundungus
09:27 Dyrcona csharp++
09:30 Dyrcona My gitlab test vm is set to use up to 60GB of space and is actually 18GB in size, and it's hardly being used.
09:31 Dyrcona It uses 4GB of RAM, but could probably use more.
09:31 Dyrcona Just for a reference.
09:31 csharp /dev/mapper/mundungus-root  481G  257G  200G  57% /
16:52 Dyrcona Not related (directly) to Evergreen but this looks neat: http://resume.github.io/
16:53 Dyrcona You have to opt-in by starring the resume/resume.github.com project.
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Results for 2017-10-05

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07:50 csharp Bmagic: I'm interested in the results of your test as well - that's a long-standing source of confusion for our libraries
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08:27 Dyrcona So, no one uses retarget local holds when checking in new copies?
08:28 * Dyrcona just got caught up with the logs.
09:24 Dyrcona There are things about syrup that I do not understand.
09:24 Dyrcona i.e. most of it.
09:25 Dyrcona It appears to need an Evergreen installation to talk to via the gateway, yet doesn't work unless services are also running locally.
09:27 * Dyrcona is going to install stock 3.0 on a test server with production data.
09:27 kmlussier No, I don't think that's true. NOBLE doesn't have Syrup running with an Evergreen installation. I'm pretty sure artunit told me it wasn't needed way back when.
09:27 Dyrcona All I can say is what I see in our installation which I did not set up and have had little to do with except upgrading the OpenSRF and Evergreen packages when we upgrade production.
09:28 Dyrcona Ours has configuration to use bark.cwmars.org and it wont' work unless I run services locally.
09:29 Dyrcona That's all I can say for certain at this time.
09:29 Dyrcona I did set up a test vm that uses itself, and the same appears to be true there.
09:29 Dyrcona Hopefully, we will soon abandon Syrup.
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09:47 kmlussier I'm curious. Why is the new Overdrive functionality not recommended for production use without careful testing?
09:48 csharp hmm - 2017-10-05 09:15:42 utility03 open-ils.trigger: [WARN:25782:Client.pm:122:] Sending large message of 2544937 bytes to router@private.utility03.gapines.org/open-ils.trigger
09:48 Dyrcona 'Cause it hasn't been thoroughly tested, or at least not beyond Sitka.
09:48 csharp immediately after that, the client is gone from the jabber network
09:48 * Dyrcona is supposed to setup a test with Overdrive, but time.
09:50 csharp that's a PO JEDI a/t event, btw
09:51 Dyrcona csharp: Did the event complete with success and was it properly handled?
09:55 mdriscoll Regarding Syrup, NOBLE has opensrf 2.4.1 installed on our syrup server.  We are not even running opensrf services.  Syrup utilizes the opensrf libraries to talk to whatever evergreen server you point it at.  According to a comment in the code "It [Python OpenSRF library] isn't needed for our read-only ILS operations, only for updates."  So if you are not having Syrup make changes to Evergreen copies like copy location, I
15:06 Dyrcona And, git confirms it.
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15:06 * Dyrcona wanted to make a slashdot joke, about offline being dead, but it didn't seem to fit.
15:25 kmlussier Speaking of offline, I asked this question late Friday afternoon, which is a bad time to ask a question.
15:26 kmlussier All of my offline testing was done when my computer was offline or when I was in offline mode.
15:26 kmlussier I've noticed when rebuilding my VMs that offline doesn't seem to work if the Evergreen server is down.
15:27 kmlussier How will we be handling those situations where the Evergreen server is down?
15:35 Dyrcona I thought that was the point of offline, though granted you may have to make a connection first to get the required data.
15:36 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, you do have to make that connection first and load the patron edit screen.
15:38 Dyrcona So, you're saying that after that, it still doesn't work if the server is down?
15:52 kmlussier berick: That's what I did before when I said I went directly to the offline page.
15:52 berick ah, missed that part of the comment
15:52 berick so it fails to render
15:53 kmlussier berick: yes
15:54 kmlussier miker: So have you gotten offline to work in your own testing where the Evergreen server is no longer available?
15:55 miker kmlussier: it's working for me right now on webby
15:55 miker (apache is off)
15:56 miker well, back on now
15:58 kmlussier miker: OK, I visited the patron reg page.
16:00 miker kmlussier: apache's down
16:00 miker hey webby, I'm in your interface offlinin' books ;)
16:02 kmlussier miker: hmmm, so it worked at first, but then after I cleared my browser cache (not app cache), I got the 503.
16:07 kmlussier On my own test server, if I simply stop Evergreen services, offline works.
16:08 miker ah, that's because of ngnix
16:09 miker or... wait...
16:10 miker haproxy on webby, rather
16:20 kmlussier bug 1721636
16:20 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1721636 in Evergreen "upup needs to learn about i18n.js" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721636
16:20 kmlussier miker++
16:20 miker kmlussier: thanks
16:20 * miker makes a note at the top of base_js.tt2
16:29 miker kmlussier: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/​user/miker/lp-1721636-i18n_js-for-upup
16:29 miker kmlussier: you'll need to clear the service worker cache to test, obvs
16:31 * kmlussier prefers WARNING WARNING WARNING over ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION because it reminds her of the Lost in Space robot.
16:31 miker kmlussier: ha! I started with WARNING, but changed it ... sorry :)
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10:20 Dyrcona Are you talking about 2.12 or 3.0?
10:20 csharp 2.12/OpenSRF 2.5
10:20 Dyrcona OK. Just makin' sure. :)
10:20 csharp we're going to 3.0 in January - just trying to get it going on all test servers I can get my hands on ;-)
10:21 Dyrcona OK. Thought you were upgrading this weekend, too.
10:21 csharp nah - we moved to 2.12 over Labor Day weekend - I'm a glutton for punishment, but not that much! :-)
10:21 Dyrcona We're looking at maybe next June for 3.0, but that's because there are a ton of other things we want to do in the mean time.
14:38 Dyrcona :)
14:38 Bmagic All FYI - The Evergreen 3.0 docker container is now avaialble for cloning. docker pull mobiusoffice/evergreen-ils:3.0.0
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14:47 jeff Bmagic: only intended for testing use, not production -- per the repository description?
14:48 Bmagic jeff: I don't think there is a problem using it for production, provided you handle the database and configs for your environment
14:48 Bmagic we are using containers for our application bricks
14:48 Bmagic works perfectly fine, the database is separate
16:47 Bmagic blongwell - I always have to use the SQL query to see which one it's deciding
16:48 Bmagic the first part of the routine is to get the ID numbers of the circ staff, patron, item, circ library
16:49 Bmagic then plug those values into action.find_circ_matrix_matchpoint(context_ou integer,    item_object asset.copy,    user_object actor.usr,    renewal boolean)
16:50 berick think you can also grep for 'circulator: circ policy test found matchpoint' (at INFO) in the logs
16:50 Bmagic or rather this one action.find_circ_matrix_matchpoint(    context_ou integer,    match_item bigint,    match_user integer,    renewal boolean)
16:50 Dyrcona I was about to say I think it is logged at a different than normal log level setting.
16:51 Dyrcona But, I'm taking off, so good luck!
17:26 Bmagic it's not a "real" solution I don't think
17:26 Bmagic if it makes it a little better though, might as well
17:27 berick right, it's a back-stop
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08:20 csharp in this case it's the entire directory - when working from the 3.0.rc tarball it was the single file
08:21 csharp @monologue
08:21 pinesol_green csharp: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.
08:25 csharp so manually copying build, then manually creating /openils/var/web/js/ui/default/common/build/js (common didn't exist either) and copying jquery.min.js over got everything working
08:26 csharp either I'm reading wrong or something is borked
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08:39 csharp same behavior with another xenial test server\
08:44 * csharp files bug 1721015
08:44 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1721015 in Evergreen ""grunt all" step not installing angular/dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721015
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09:57 Dyrcona And, if you install from a tarball, as csharp points out, you can skip those steps as they should be done as part of the process in making the tarball.
09:57 Dyrcona Just for the sake of clarity in the logs. ;)
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10:34 csharp Dyrcona: thanks for the confirmation
10:35 csharp I was confused because the karma tests shouldn't work at that point, right?
10:35 Dyrcona I think they would still work since they only look at what you have locally.
10:35 csharp ah - ok
10:35 Dyrcona The things just wouldn't be installed unless you ran make install again.
17:35 gmcharlt demo.evergreencatalog.com is now running 3.0.0
17:46 bshum gmcharlt++
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01:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Juvenile-to-adult script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=717bb89>
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09:57 csharp gonna try on a stock machine, manually building via instructions
09:57 csharp but our debs/config scripts don't touch JS at this point
09:59 gmcharlt csharp: yeah - and they shouldn't have to, at least in the case of using a release tarball
10:00 csharp yeah, this is built from the tarball
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10:09 csharp leaving that alone for now - manually copying the angular-sanitize.min.* files solved the immediate problem - I'll test and report back later this afternoon
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10:44 Dyrcona csharp: I build a fresh master vm yesterday and had no problems.
11:22 gmcharlt hmm, I've gone ahead and expanded the tarball
11:22 gmcharlt and yeah, no angular-sanitze* in Evergreen-ILS-3.0.rc/Open-ILS/w​eb/js/ui/default/staff/build/js
11:23 gmcharlt dbwells: out of curiosity, what platform did you build on?
11:24 dbwells gmcharlt: our main dev box is still on wheezy
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12:08 dbwells csharp++ # testing the RC and finding a problem I caused
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12:09 dbwells csharp: It appears that I have a too-old npm version which led to this bad build.
12:11 dbwells Should be simple to correct, but also hoping to find time to actually understand the issue (I've been coasting with my understanding of some of this).
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12:45 csharp dbwells: oh - cool
16:25 kmlussier I won't be here long. :)
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13:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Adding search config info to client admin manual - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=52facdb>
13:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: cleaning up client sysadmin manual - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=86c1ed7>
16:06 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: documenting copy locations - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e9bb2ff>
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Results for 2017-09-30

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17:03 Dyrcona But, what I don't get is how the existing getElementsByClassName code works when getElementById in the same place does not.
17:14 Dyrcona Guess I'll figure it out later.
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18:13 Dyrcona For the logs: Fixed it. Trouble wasn't what I thought it was. I had a typo in the string constart for the confirm dialog.
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08:20 kmlussier lol - a follow-up to my question about the staff client library timeout setting. It appears that this setting is consulted for web client timeouts.
08:21 kmlussier I had set it to 10 seconds the other day when I was testing it, and was just cursing at the web client this morning because it kept logging me out.
08:22 kmlussier I'm not sure why it didn't work in my earlier testing, though. Could it be a browser issue? I tested it in Firefox, but was using Chrome this morning when it started working.
08:23 kmlussier No, it's working in Firefox now too.
08:34 Dyrcona Could be a cache issue.
08:45 kmlussier @marc 130
08:45 pinesol_green kmlussier: A uniform title used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,d,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,6,8]
09:20 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1720345 in Evergreen "Cannot create copy tags" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720345
09:20 kmlussier gmcharlt: Thanks! If it looks good, is it something that can be merged or do I need to wait until after .0 is out?
09:21 gmcharlt it's enough of a regression that I've targetted it for 3.0.0
09:21 kmlussier gmcharlt: OK, I'll test it now.
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09:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1720345: ensure egEditFmRecord's customFieldTemplates is optional - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7f23400>
09:51 kmlussier gmcharlt++
16:34 kmlussier @hate inconsistent bugs
16:34 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.  kmlussier hates inconsistent bugs.
16:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Adding some use cases to MARC Batch Edit - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=24c896d>
16:57 kmlussier Before I leave for the day, I'm going to leave a question about offline circ. When I tested offline circ, I always tested it in an environment where I lost Internet.
16:58 kmlussier But I never tested the scenario where people need to use offline because the system is down.
16:58 kmlussier I've noticed that when I bring my VMs down, the staff login page shows the menu bar, but, otherwise, is white. How will staff get to offline circ in those cases when the system is down?
16:59 * kmlussier now needs to run but wanted to post the question before forgetting about it again.
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15:20 berick csharp: can you paste a few context lines?
15:20 berick from the source file
15:20 berick not seeing what I would expect to see at that line in master
15:20 Dyrcona csharp: PhantomJS is used by the karma unit tests.
15:21 csharp berick: which is the source file?  sorry - I'm truly at a loss :-/
15:21 * csharp is also sick, so brain is not 100%
15:21 berick /home/opensrf/pines/Open-ILS/web/js/​ui/default/staff/circ/patron/app.js
15:47 kmlussier @hates
15:47 pinesol_green kmlussier hates Launchpad search; Internet Explorer; snow; scheduling meetings; Starbucks; negative balances; undrinkable coffee; winter; blizzards; spam; dojo interfaces; Windows line endings; peanut M&Ms; bad technology days; authorities; pollen; comcast; and comcast even more
15:53 csharp @hates
15:53 pinesol_green csharp hates dojo_hold_policies_interface; SIP; when libraries purchase third party products without testing and blame Evergreen for it not working; reports; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa; evil; reports more; reports even moar; details; reports even more; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out (2 more messages)
15:53 csharp @more
15:53 pinesol_green csharp: when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa even more; having to teach SIP2 client vendors about the SIP2 specification; troubleshooting reports; money reports; marc; reports even more than before; the EDI ruby bits; acquisitions; <quote>fun<unquote>; edi; sip2; sip too; sip two; acq; acq more; acq way more than before; omg I hate acq; omg I love acq; hate hate hate; comcast; and (1 more message)
15:53 csharp @more
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13:04 mmorgan Bmagic: We're happy with the policy following the owner, so never investigated changing it.
13:04 library instruction said to type following command. so i did. then re-read instruction and it said to replace "prefix" with default opensrf folder... grr
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13:08 Bmagic library: yeah, the instructions have a lot of details that make a big difference. If you want to get an Evergreen server up and running for testing purposes, you can skip the full installation process and use the docker container
13:09 Dyrcona Bmagic: The answer to your question is "It depends on what you mean by lost policy, and if you only want the lost policy."
13:09 library there are already existing test servers for evergreen that i've visited from the URL. We're looking to install and run evergreen on a localhost machine
13:10 Dyrcona library: Bmagic's docker container is a quick way to set up a test Evergreen instance with stock test data.
13:11 Dyrcona Bmagic: It is pretty straightforward to set up the circ matrix so that the owning libraries circulation rules are used.
13:12 Bmagic library: https://hub.docker.com/r/m​obiusoffice/evergreen-ils/
13:12 * Dyrcona can spell, honestly.... :)
14:15 Dyrcona library: I'm not so sure about that.
14:15 library sledgehammer flyswatter perhaps. but I'm curious
14:16 Dyrcona Bmagic: I don't think I understand your question.
14:17 Bmagic kmlussier: the docker container option seems relevant for library. library could get the server running for testing purposes in a few minutes.
14:17 Bmagic Dyrcona: The age to lost concept is handled via action trigger in Evergreen right?
14:18 Dyrcona Bmagic: Yes, but it's the second part that I don't understand. It ages thing regardless of where they're checked out. I don't think I understand your goal.
14:18 Bmagic library: if you are not sure weather or not you are going to use the Evergreen ILS as your solution and you are just needing to test it out, then the docker container is it!
14:18 Dyrcona library: This is the most eclectic consortium that I'm aware of. They are using Koha: http://www.masscat.org/current-members-list/
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14:19 Bmagic Dyrcona: some of our members would like to know if it's "easy" to institute the lost action trigger on ALL items checked out at their library, instead of having the owning library's AT act upon the item that is circed at their library
14:20 Dyrcona library: No law firms in that list, but a hospital or two.
14:20 library there are already existing test servers for evergreen that i've reviewed... is the docker somehow different than these web-accessible test sites?
14:20 Dyrcona Bmagic: That sounds like the opposite of what you asked earlier, but I'm getting old. :)
14:21 Bmagic library: it would be running on your machine
14:21 Dyrcona Bmagic: I think you'd have to change the trigger code or use a filter, but I'm also not an expert on A/T.
14:21 Bmagic library: I could ask you the same question - installing Evergreen on your local machine is somehow different than the web-accessible test sites?
14:21 Dyrcona Bmagic: I think library is ready to go beyond the kick the tires stage.
14:21 library i cannot create records that a lawyer on site can search for and find a text on our shelf from?
14:22 library none of our lawyers are going to waste their time searching a test database for books about kitty cats
14:22 Bmagic library: you would like to import MARC into the test site? I believe that's possible (however, the databases on the test sites might be subject to reset from time to time)
14:22 library I want MARC book records added
14:22 Dyrcona You can do that with the docker image.
14:23 Bmagic library: and, yes, you can do that with the docker image
15:24 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1719986 in Evergreen "Pg 9.6 unaccent() changes how certain characters are normalized" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719986
15:25 Dyrcona Fun...
15:26 Dyrcona Something told me we should have gone with Perl module instead on that one.
15:27 kmlussier In my testing, which could be flawed, the staff login inactivity timeout OU setting does not affect web client authentication sessions. Is there anything ATM that will automatically log out staff after a period of idleness?
15:27 gmcharlt eh, that would have not provided additional guarantee  of things not hcanging
15:28 Dyrcona gmcharlt: True.
15:31 berick kmlussier: i've noticed in passing the automatic logout only works sometimes.
17:04 Dyrcona But, like I said, I think the confusion outweighs the benefit.
17:05 Bmagic I have a cell phone that charged me per text, and I wouldn't mind getting the text for this one book but I don't care to pay for the text messages for the others....
17:05 kmlussier However, if we implement it with YAOUS, then we avoid some of those potential pitfalls.
17:05 jeff kmlussier: right, we shouldn't determine concensus based on who happens to be non-idle on irc at any given time.
17:05 jeff kmlussier: still useful for a smoke test, though.
17:05 mmorgan regarding my previous comment about patron visibility, lp 1720005
17:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1720005 in Evergreen "Provide a way for patrons to see and update hold notification preferences while logged into the opac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720005
17:05 kmlussier mmorgan++
17:24 jeff hah! surely you jest.
17:30 kmlussier Looks like I just have that one small web client doc contribution for today. Maybe I can carve out more time on Friday.
17:30 kmlussier Have a nice night everyone!
18:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
20:04 gmcharlt https://evergreen-ils.org/release-cand​idate-for-evergreen-3-0-now-available/
23:25 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: root.adoc can now compile - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b2ee1ea>

Results for 2017-09-26

06:02 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:56 mmorgan kmlussier: I was just able to batch update expiration date of patrons in a bucket without a problem.
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08:57 kmlussier mmorgan: Hmmm, did you do something different from what I did?
08:58 mmorgan Looking at your steps now.
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09:01 mmorgan Looks like the same steps. It's working on our test server.
09:01 kmlussier I also have hit bug 1718301 again on recent master from yesterday.
09:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1718301 in Evergreen "Webstaff offline DB connection failures" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718301
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09:04 kmlussier I wonder if it's related to the qstore service. The user bucket issue, not the offline DB issue.
09:09 Dyrcona Is qstore running?
09:10 kmlussier That's what I need to check.
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09:17 kmlussier Yes, actually, qstore is running. Now I'm puzzled.
09:18 kmlussier mmorgan: How old is the code on your test server?
09:19 Dyrcona kmlussier: Errors from qstore in the logs?
09:19 mmorgan 3.0 beta1
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12:59 kmlussier So if I do an empty search with the container filter, it's a way to make the entire contents of a bucket available in the public catalog.
13:01 miker kmlussier: yep. that's basically how we provide "search within a my-list" functionality
13:02 miker though I guess we don't spell out the filter in the UI, just when we do the search in the code
13:03 kmlussier OK, maybe I can update some of the documentation on that tomorrow for Web Client Hacking Day. Not that it's new with the web client, but I'll probably forget if I don't do it tomorrow. :)
13:03 * kmlussier is going to try to get some last-minute bugs tested before the RC
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13:23 Dyrcona Re my systemd issues from earlier: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2355822
13:23 Dyrcona systemd-- # Just because.
13:47 Dyrcona systemd, that is.
13:47 jeff Dyrcona: as for if the problem with recur, I can't guess -- but that was the kind of thing i had in mind when suggesting logs could confirm which problem you ran into.
13:47 Dyrcona What I have is a lot of that noise, followed by everything working after the forced reboot.
13:48 kmlussier berick: I think it could go either way, but when I asked after my testing, the thinking was that bug 1712646 should be patched.
13:48 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1712646 in Evergreen "Web Client: Adding bill without billing type fails silently" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1712646
13:49 Dyrcona Guess I have to rebuild this vm for the Nth time....
13:51 berick kmlussier: should be patched?  meaning merged?  or repatched?
14:31 Dyrcona You merged or rebased?
14:31 berick kmlussier: looks like kyle's branch has veered away from master.  i suggest cherry-picking instead
14:32 Dyrcona As to why it would happen, there are a number of reasons.
14:32 kmlussier Dyrcona: I merged the branch to load it on the test system.
14:32 kmlussier berick: OK, thanks.
14:33 Dyrcona Sounds like there is extraneous stuff in the submitted branch... I think that should be cleaned up.
14:33 Dyrcona That's one reason.
14:33 Dyrcona Another is you have extraneous stuff in your branch.
15:24 berick only the release branches have a usable version
15:24 Bmagic makes sense
15:24 bshum https://webby.evergreencatalog.com/gat​eway?service=open-ils.actor&amp;method​=opensrf.open-ils.system.ils_version ; for giggles, webby too is HEAD
15:30 Dyrcona My test vm returns this: {"payload":["2-12-6"],"status":200}
15:30 Bmagic gratz!
15:31 * Dyrcona goes back to creating a final branch for the produciton upgrade to 2.12.6. :)
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16:05 Dyrcona jeffdavis: yes, that.
16:05 Dyrcona We use different dbs in production.
16:06 jeffdavis Ah, I see. Our config is ok, but good call.
16:06 Dyrcona I forget what my error was on a test vm when I missed the reporter section.
16:07 jeffdavis I wonder if whatever's causing the DBI connection failure could be the same thing that's going on with bug 1704396 - probably not, but...
16:07 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1704396 in Evergreen "Slowness for metarecord and one-hit searches in 2.12" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704396
16:09 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Google suggests either the backend segfaulted or perhaps a dbi connection not surviving a fork() call.
17:28 miker hrm... I don't see it calling that in master. I must be missing something...
17:30 kmlussier gmcharlt: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1676297 is up to date as far as you know?
17:30 miker gmcharlt: ah, the baseline looks out of date
17:30 gmcharlt miker: gah
17:30 gmcharlt miker: OK, something more for the RC process tomorrow
17:31 gmcharlt kmlussier: yes, w.r.t. to code, documentation, i18n, and specification & project management contributions that I know of. one class of folks that are not specifically included are those who made significant testing and bug reporting contributions who are otherwise not accounted for
17:31 miker :) ... I can put that on my plate for the morning. it's the ELSE branch that's missing, it looks like. if the return doesn't matter, we can just collect the non-heading_field values and do a single shot after the loop
17:32 gmcharlt yeah
17:33 kmlussier gmcharlt: Hmmm...I do see some testers in there though. I can try to do a quick survey tomorrow, though, to see if I can find anyone else fitting that category.
17:52 gmcharlt will do... tomorrow!
17:52 gmcharlt have a good evening
17:53 kmlussier You too!
18:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
18:02 miker gmcharlt: can multiple acsaf.heading_field's point to a single authority.heading_field row? if not, then I can solve this directly
18:10 miker gmcharlt: the stock data says no, but it's not a hard rule ...
18:20 miker nm, found a way past that. will look in the morning with  fresh eyes

Results for 2017-09-25

09:59 * mmorgan can imagine :)
09:59 kmlussier bug 1672435
09:59 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1672435 in Evergreen "Monographic parts in sample data live in non-holdable copy locations" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672435
10:00 Dyrcona kmlussier: That makes testing my holds work difficult. :)
10:00 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, it makes testing almost anything related to parts difficult.
10:00 Dyrcona Easy enough to remedy that, though.
10:00 Dyrcona parts--
10:00 kmlussier Yes, it's just a matter of changing the holdable flags on those copy locations, but we should probably try to remedy it at some point.
16:46 gmcharlt I'm inclined to push bug 1718036 as is for the RC so that we have it essentially as a placeholder
16:46 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1718036 in Evergreen "wishlist: show version information somewhere in web client" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718036
16:47 gmcharlt I can imagine, though, extending the stock about page with a lot of additional stuff
16:47 * bshum thinks that is the perfect page to test his idea to incorporate a PO tag for "translator-credits" :)
16:48 bshum I kind of want to name the menu item "About Evergreen" though, not just "About" to give it a little clarity
16:48 bshum Or "About this client" I guess is what we put on the title of the page already
16:48 bshum So that could work too for the menu entry
16:49 bshum Nope, "About Evergreen" is what's on the page blob
16:49 * bshum ponders
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17:14 cesardv_ berick: thanks! I'm trying :)
17:44 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1713764: fix 'Retrieve Patron' action from webstaff pull list - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f64731e>
17:55 Bmagic which step of the Evergreen installation would result in this file existing: /openils/lib/liboils_pcrud.so
18:02 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
18:04 bshum Bmagic: isn't that one of the new library files for OpenSRF 3.0?
18:04 bshum Or err Evergreen 3.0
18:11 gmcharlt tossing bug 1622696 out there for further testing before it gets merged
18:11 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1622696 in Evergreen "web client: error when trying to pay by credit card" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1622696 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
18:11 gmcharlt berick: ^^ and note the follow-up I added
18:12 berick gmcharlt++

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