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Results for 2013-06-05

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09:02 dbs bshum: don't sigh about acquisitions testing, please... we're going to try seriously adopting acq after we upgrade to 2.4, and I'm sure all the basic stuff works flawlessly. _flawlessly_.
09:02 * dbs still needs to test that basic stuff, is crossing fingers.
09:15 kmlussier dbs: acq has come a long way in the past year. I hope your testing goes well!
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09:41 Dyrcona The 404 is likely 'cause I missed something that needs to be configured.
09:42 rjackson-isl we have a book mobile in offline mode due to poor connectivity and wondered if this would help...
09:42 jeff_ the offline patron list downloads a list of barred/lost/expired/penalized patron barcodes, and it depends on offline-blocked-list.pl being run (usually via cron) to generate the list.
09:43 rjackson-isl ok - I will see if I can get that going in test jeff_ ++
09:43 bshum Yeah, for some reason Indiana's list.txt is empty.
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09:45 Dyrcona jeff_++ # I should have known that.
09:47 dbs kmlussier: thanks for the reassurance :)
09:48 kmlussier dbs: What tools did you use when testing accessibility in tpac?
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09:54 kmlussier dbs: nm, I found it.
09:54 bshum dbs: I only sigh about testing new acq "features".  It's hard to test expected behavior sometimes :(
09:54 bshum But I agree with kmlussier that acq has come a very long way from when we first started using them back in 2.0 days.
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10:15 kmlussier Should https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1155278 be backported since it is an accessibility issue? Looks like it was only committed to 2.4.
10:15 pinesol_green` Launchpad bug 1155278 in Evergreen "TPAC: Accessibility audit compliance" (affected: 3, heat: 14) [Undecided,Fix released]
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12:25 eeevil paxed: it looks ok to me, but I haven't tested it
12:25 paxed the material() sees only the full 007 field, not the one character from pos 1
12:30 eeevil this won't address that, but start_pos is 0-based
12:30 paxed yes, and i'm looking for the 2nd character.
12:50 eeevil what does the following return for you? SELECT biblio.marc21_extract_fixed_field( $bibid, 'material'); -- replace $bibid with an appropriate bib id
12:51 eeevil to purge material, UPDATE metabib.record_attr SET attrs = attrs - 'material';
12:51 paxed that returns just one char, correctly
12:52 eeevil cool. so, I guess, purge and then reingest a couple records. then search for "material(x)" (no quotes, replace "x") to test
12:52 paxed # UPDATE metabib.record_attr SET attrs = attrs - 'material';
12:52 paxed ERROR:  Unexpected end of string
12:53 eeevil maybe got smartquotes from cut/paste?
15:07 * rfrasur prefers analog legos
15:08 eeevil paxed: so, there's already a sophisticated 007 parser. what, in particular, are you trying to accomplish? SMD filtering, I believe?
15:09 paxed eeevil: it started as a learning experience, now i'm just trying to get this working. SMD? what 007 parser?
15:10 kmlussier dbs: Have you loaded the fixes from https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1155278 to your production server? I was using your catalog for comparison when testing a problem here, but then remembered you're not on 2.4 yet.
15:10 pinesol_green` Launchpad bug 1155278 in Evergreen "TPAC: Accessibility audit compliance" (affected: 3, heat: 14) [Undecided,Fix released]
15:11 * kmlussier wonders if there are any production systems using both 2.4 and auto suggest.
15:11 eeevil 007/01 (second character in 007) is described as the SMD field for ... well ... it looks like all record types. http://www.oclc.org/bibforma​ts/en/0xx/field007table.html (easier to read, IMO, than the LOC version)
15:11 kmlussier Ooh! Looks like SC LENDS is.
15:12 paxed eeevil: well, i usually read the marc21 format in finnish, so i wouldn't know/remember what "SMD" stands for.
15:12 dbs kmlussier: our test server ( http://laurentian-test.concat.ca ) has that loaded - and I think I did apply it to our production server, but can't recall for sure
15:13 kmlussier dbs: Ok, I'll look there too. Thanks!
15:13 eeevil paxed: gotcha, fair enough. so, you were looking for the 007/01 on a particular record type originally, what was that type?
15:14 dbs kmlussier: IIRC, autosuggest is a massive pain for accessibility; at least in our implementation, where Dojo dijits don't even make ARIA a viable option
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15:15 eeevil paxed: ok, so, where 007/00 = c, correct?
15:15 paxed eeevil: so what filter gets the 007/01?  yes
15:16 dbs kmlussier: http://www-test.concat.ca/ is closer to stock than our LU skin
15:16 kmlussier Yes, that's what I'm finding. C/W MARS modified their searchbar.tt2 based on your changes, but it still seems to be problematic in IE and Chrome. I'm not sure if was the problem with the way we patched it or if further work is needed.
15:17 * kmlussier hasn't even looked at advanced search yet. :P
15:17 dbs kmlussier: I couldn't easily fix the problem that autosuggest introduces, so I didn't
15:21 kmlussier dbs: This morning, I used Chrome's accessibility add-on and had no trouble. It may just be a JAWS issue, but, then again, JAWS has a big share of the market.
15:21 dbs kmlussier: yeah, understood. I can't recall if I checked the recent Dojo version to see if that issue had been addressed
15:23 paxed eeevil: ok, now how do i do a filter for any type of record, or do i have to make a different filter name for each type of record?
15:23 kmlussier dbs: Thanks for the info. So it sounds like disabling java or using Firefox are some workarounds for the time being. I'll test try some tests with java disabled.
15:23 eeevil dbs: I believe ARIA is surfaced much better in modern dojo's
15:25 eeevil paxed: the values in 007/01 overlap across record types ("a" means different things based on 007/00), so the short answer is "yes, a filter per type". that being said, what you've been trying to do /should/ work, so figuring out why it's not would be good, because then you could do it with a single filter on 007/00 with a length of 2
15:26 paxed eeevil: com_smd should show in metabib.record_attr attrs, right?

Results for 2013-06-04

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11:04 Dyrcona dbs: mens health doesn't match men's health on my catalog, either.
11:04 bshum Well, I just tested that search on MVLC and SCLEND's catalogs and neither returned expected results
11:05 bshum Oh, heh
11:05 dbs Looks like your thinking that new QP might be playing a role might be a reasonable theory. I'm seeing the same difference on our 2.4 test server vs our 2.3 production server
11:06 dbs Is SCLENDs on 2.4?
11:06 dbs I assume MVLC is.
11:06 gmcharlt dbs: yes
11:08 * bshum goes off to file a bug
11:08 paxed is it enough to insert into config.record_attr_definition and reingest, or do i have to do something else to get a new filter working?
11:33 paxed huh. okay, that works. it just didn't work like i expected it to.
11:34 paxed adding that filter, it seems to consider the whole 007 field, not the 007/1
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11:57 jeff_ drat. the perils of comparing json as strings?
11:57 jeff_ #   Failed test at t/09-Utils-JSON.t line 105.
11:57 jeff_ #          got: '{"__p":{"foo":"bar"},"__c":"osrfException"}'
11:57 jeff_ #     expected: '{"__c":"osrfException","__p":{"foo":"bar"}}'
11:57 jeff_ (of course, run the test again and all's well)
11:59 Ruth I had the same problem with roofing nails this morning.
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12:05 pinesol_green [evergreen|Simon Hieu Mai] LP#1053074: Editimg MARC Fixed Fields jumps cursor to marc record - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=717a126>
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12:35 paxed yeah, figured
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12:55 jeff_ tests+-
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13:13 dbs jeff_: maybe set $json->canonical(true) to ensure the keys are ordered
13:14 dbs assuming that json::xs is in play
13:15 * dbs hasn't been able to get that test to fail
13:15 jeff_ yeah. it might be a perl 5.18 thing. i'm seeing similar with some XML tests for RPC::XML
13:16 jeff_ or, might be that i've fallen back to the pure perl json backend. i should check.
13:16 dbs mmm, yeah, perl 5.16 here
13:16 jeff_ and dbs++ for $json->canonical(true) -- i thought there was an option for that but had not gone looking.
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20:20 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged. | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org
20:21 bshum awitter++ mrpeters++
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22:20 * bshum sighs loudly at acquisitions and EDI testing :(
23:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pranjal Prabhash] Standalone Mode Staff Client Shortcuts - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b55da92>
23:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] Added release note for standalone mode shortcuts - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2060027>
23:04 bshum Calling 0794

Results for 2013-06-03

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11:53 tsbere b_bonner: Dunno if it has anything to do with your error.....but why the subselect? The where and limit clauses should, in theory, work on the update statement directly
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11:56 b_bonner tsbere: subselect was just wanting to limit the query to the bib id's that actually have this 856 condition and the limit was just a remnant of me doing smaller scale tests.
11:57 jeff_ b_bonner: sounds like your error is related to an existing issue with one or more bibs. doing a straight-up reingest of the bib without changing a thing in the marc record would likely trigger the same error.
11:57 tsbere b_bonner: The where clause checking position would work on the update statement itself to do the same limit, though
11:58 jeff_ b_bonner: you could add RAISE DEBUG statements (or their perl equiv) to the relevant functions in the db to surface the ID of the record(s) causing the issue.
12:16 paxed yeah, just noticed that
12:16 phasefx gathered at login time
12:18 b_bonner jeff_ tsbere: sorry for delay getting back to this. I'll attempt to figure out which ID's are throwing the errors.  Does this mean that these ids probably aren't indexed properly now?
12:19 jeff_ eeevil: thanks. in that case, it would be good to test the effective client_min_messages for DBI, and ensure that whatever chosen could be logged without tripping up dbd::pg.
12:19 eeevil b_bonner: it might mean that your update isn't doing what you expect. or it might mean that you've changed settings on some index defs
12:20 eeevil jeff_: of course, it might be fine today. I ran into that long ago
12:20 jeff_ eeevil: good to know that it might be an issue, even if it turns out not to be.
12:32 jeff_ b_bonner: but you can use full_rec to find the records to change.
12:32 * jeff_ nods
12:32 b_bonner jeff_ eeevil: oh, sure. position wasn't that bad actually.
12:34 bshum Testing logger:  i’m
12:40 jeff_ @later tell berick i'm interested in your thoughts on bug 1187035 removing OpenILS::Utils::Editor -- you're the usual author on Editor/CStoreEditor
12:40 pinesol_green jeff_: The operation succeeded.
12:40 jeff_ bug 1187035

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