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Results for 2014-09-03

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Results for 2014-09-02

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13:52 dbs One must always be wary of memory consumption with infini-scrolls too.
13:52 * jeff nods
13:52 jeff as i understand it, collection-repeat recycles dom objects in an attempt to avoid that.
13:54 eeevil jeff: an important data point, though. we should avoid any dead ends early, going forward ... do you have link for a test? I can point my N4 at it (and I'm curious)
13:54 berick eeevil: re: scrolling, it would be fairly easy to give infinite scrolling to the grid using angular's ui-scroll (http://angular-ui.github.io/ui-utils/)
13:54 berick there's a brief mention here http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=d​ev:browser_staff:dev_notes#section20140411
13:55 jboyer-isl I'm curious what phonegap has to do with it? I thought that was a library to build an "app" out of a webpage, giving it access to the camera and other hardware bits.
16:17 csharp hbrennan: if you have access to your email server's logs too, that can provide the proof that the patron's email provider's server received (or didn't receive) the email
16:20 hbrennan bmills++ as well
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16:55 Dyrcona 1 file changed, 613 insertions(+), 1 file changed, 476 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-), 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-): I call that a productive day.
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Results for 2014-09-01

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Results for 2014-08-29

00:04 Guest6556 There is two types of policy the first is student policy who can borrowed atleast 25 books and Faculty which is 50 books. the problem is the number of books they can borrow is 10...
00:04 Guest6556 Oh. well thanks for the answer and ideas I will try your suggestion.
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09:11 * csharp survived Adventures with PostgreSQL 9.3 last night
09:12 csharp particularly bug 1253163 and bug 1277731 were fun to track down
09:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1253163 in Evergreen "authority indexes can fail on Postgres 9.3.0" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1253163
09:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1277731 in Evergreen "Hold tests failure" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277731
09:13 csharp eeevil++ dbwells++ # for fixes review on both so I wasn't up the creek ;-)(
09:14 csharp s^fixes review^fixes/review^
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11:01 dbs gmcharlt++
11:01 krvmga dbs: i just got your email. thx :)
11:04 krvmga gmcharlt: it fetched the working branches
11:05 gmcharlt krvmga: ok, another test for you: ssh git@git.evergreen-ils.org (/me is watching /var/log/auth.log on the git server)
11:06 krvmga gmcharlt: done
11:08 gmcharlt krvmga: did you get back a list of repositories?
11:08 krvmga gmcharlt: yes, down to working/random and then the connection closed
11:20 eeevil it shouldn't have that (or, mine does not)
11:21 gmcharlt eeevil: it doesn't make a difference whether or not ".git" is there
11:21 eeevil git@git.evergreen-ils.org:working/Evergreen vs git@git.evergreen-ils.org:working/Evergreen.git
11:21 gmcharlt (and I just tested that to besure)
11:21 eeevil hrm... I thought it mattered before, but I'm using an older git, I think
11:22 jcamins krvmga: just to confirm something I didn't see gmcharlt ask: you're looking at /your/repo/.git/config right?
11:22 eeevil oh, no, I'm using a /newer/ git :) ... still 1.7, though
16:32 kmlussier bshum++
16:32 bshum I'll be on the road next week, but will work with others to finish rounding out the docs and other things to get us ready for the 2.7 RC cut
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Results for 2014-08-28

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04:39 Terence helo
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09:32 bshum phasefx: Hmm, looks like the live test build failed with the new DB pre-req makefile targets
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09:36 dbs /home/opensrf/Evergreen/Open-ILS/src/ex​tras//install/Makefile.debian-wheezy:8: *** commands commence before first target
09:37 dbs crap. Missing \ at the end of line 8
09:37 bshum Whoops :(
09:37 dbs live-tests++
09:38 dbs prepping a fix
09:39 bshum dbs++
09:40 bshum The other ones look fine, fwiw.
09:41 dbs Yep, lucky the live tester tests wheezy
09:41 dbs I'm going to just push the fix in if you don't mind. Just two lines.
09:42 bshum dbs: Sounds good to me.
09:42 bshum Thanks!
09:42 dbs user/dbs/fix_broken_Makefile_install if you want to double-check
13:10 tsbere jeff: If you want to play with things something like this may be what we generally need: http://nsis.sourceforge.ne​t/ShellExecAsUser_plug-in
13:12 tsbere jeff: Or maybe this trick actually works too: http://mdb-blog.blogspot.com/2013/01/ns​is-lunch-program-as-user-from-uac.html (with the benefit of not needing a plugin)
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13:39 jboyer-isl jeff: I've seen software from some RFID vendors that tries to be smart about where it sends its data. You had to enter a list of window titles that can accept input. (Notepad would obviously be in the default set because of installer testing)
13:39 jboyer-isl Oh hey, tsbere already said that. I hope it helped 20 mins ago. D:
13:39 jboyer-isl :D
13:40 jeff heh
13:40 Bmagic Can anyone verify that there is no way to force the hold targeter to include newly catalogged items in the hold_copy_map sooner than every 24 hour laps from prev_check_time ?
13:41 kmlussier Bmagic: Check-in modifier to retarget holds?
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17:00 * dbs can't remember if those are the good cholesterols or the bad ones. Heh.
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17:18 eeevil jeff: sorry, query_int (for better googling). It may only be in 2.7? holdable_formats got ... more complex :) with MR holds coming back (via "the icon project")
17:28 eeevil jeff: nope ... in 2.6. see: Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/upgrade/0865.sch​ema.convert-MR-holdable_formats.sql and Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/upgrad​e/0864.MVF_CRA-upgrade.sql (the thing that can "compile" that)
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Results for 2014-08-27

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10:43 * tsbere runs one last set of tests before responding to questions on launchpad
10:43 tsbere Just dawned on me that some of the things I am seeing issues with I didn't test without the code in question loaded.
10:45 bshum berick: Fwiw, I had problems with the bookbags too when websockets weren't working right on my test server.  What I saw was two things:
10:45 bshum 1) if websockets was not turned on, then I got internal server errors when trying to add bibs to bookbags
10:46 bshum 2)  if websockets was not accessible (like if it was port blocked or not running properly), then I also found myself being taken to a page where it would stop/break eventually with some popup in XUL client about too many redirects or something
10:48 berick bshum: interesting... OK
10:48 berick thanks
10:48 bshum It was not clear to me that the intent was for these existing parts of the XUL client to remain working without websockets installed and functional.  Given this criteria, I'll curiously follow along and see what else we can find before we move forward.
10:50 berick bshum: yeah, the hope was websockets would only be needed if you wanted to experiment w/ the browser client
10:52 * tsbere apparently deleted one thing too many and has to do a much deeper clean install than he originally intended. Whoops.
10:52 * dbs guesses he should probably open a bug for the Makefile install branch
10:52 bshum dbs: Ack, I knew I forgot to merge something last night
10:53 bshum dbs: It was on my list, I just got distracted with so many tasty "signedoff" bugs
10:55 bshum dbs: If you have time to open an LP, that'd be swell, but if you have other matters to attend to, I can finish testing and push your commit later this afternoon.
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10:59 jboyer-isl I know I missed this yesterday, but does anyone have time to look at lp 1241644 ? It's a pretty basic change that we've been running with just fine since October.
11:18 mmorgan ok, so the claimed returned item with 0 fines has a xact_finish date? that's why it's not showing in items out?
11:18 jboyer-isl mmorgan, yes.
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11:19 mmorgan eeevil: gotcha
11:19 mmorgan jboyer-isl: I'd be interested in testing this one.
11:19 mmorgan I think I can get kmlussier to load a sandbox
11:21 mmorgan but this problem have any relation to lp 793550 ? Should these claimed returned items have an xact_finish?
11:21 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 793550 in Evergreen 2.3 "xact_finish (prematurely?) set on claimed returned item if transaction balance reaches zero" (affected: 7, heat: 38) [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793550
11:22 jboyer-isl eeevil: sure, I don't mean the number associated with an actor.usr.
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11:46 eeevil berick_: unless you were depending on the "last lvalue gets returned" behavior of subs there? (but that seems a bit too magical to me)
11:50 * bshum doesn't know what that commit references to, so will take eeevil's word for it :)
11:51 eeevil bshum: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e8a2​45ff181e3b837e1e60ef60c8eb3d8b0f190
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12:05 eeevil well, magic last lval does work in a simple test... but I'm still going to offer a branch bringing back the returns
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12:14 eeevil hold pull list was only changed (AFAICT) in that commit above.  The substantive change to the pre-websockets code was the lack of 'return's, so if you have a test env handy: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Eve​rgreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/m​iker/web-staff-phase1-squash-with-returns
12:15 eeevil note that http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/22 suggests it should work, but the sub is much more complicated than that test
12:25 bshum eeevil: Hmm, what was the problem with the holds pull list in the client?  Or is this a web client issue we're troubleshooting?
12:28 eeevil bshum: I'm sorry ... I thought you were saying (up there) that the entry point for the current one broke until you set up (and un-firewalled) websockets. did I misunderstand?
12:28 * bshum didn't notice any breakage in the XUL clients
12:44 jeff I'm tempted to find out how much Nick Offerman would charge for some "custom Carl Kassell answering machine message" style audio or video of suitable variations on his Eggs and Bacon bit.
12:45 jeff ``Just give me all the ILS data you have. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of data." What I said was, "Give me all the ILS data you have". Do you understand?''
12:46 eeevil tsbere: do you want to amend your comment on the ticket, WRT having to set up websockets to get the normal (xul staff client, normal tpac) stuff working? I think we've agree that that's not true, bshum?
12:47 bshum eeevil: I have to test further as far as turning off my websockets.  I got mine to work and didn't look back to see what wasn't working with them on.
12:48 jeff the followup is a bit more of a mouthful, though:
12:48 jeff ``Just give me all the details on your authentication options. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a one page summary of your authentication options." What I said was, "Give all of the details on your authentication options" Do you understand?''
12:48 bshum eeevil: aka, my testing assumption was (get websockets working), find out if anything else was broken.  Not so much, install it all, and see what's just plain broken.
12:49 bshum But I'm getting there.  Have to start a fresh VM.
12:49 gmcharlt bshum: speaking of fresh VMs -- Debian testing no longer includes libemail-send-perl
12:50 gmcharlt deprecated in favor of libemail-sender-perl
12:50 gmcharlt wheee!
12:51 bshum o.O
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12:53 eeevil bshum: gotcha. I think the low water mark for merging is "does this branch break anything if none if its new features are turned on" ... the high water mark is probably "its features work and so do the ones from outside this branch". in between those, it's a judgement call about the tradeoff between getting it out for user testing (and bug finding, of all varieties, of course!) vs pure bug-free code (regardless of whether it's in use or not) in a
12:53 eeevil release.
12:54 gmcharlt bug 1362260
12:54 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1362260 in Evergreen "Email::Send is deprecated" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362260
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12:56 eeevil IOW, and IMHO, if simple inclusion (without websockets turned on) does not break existing functionality, I think it should go in. If turning them on breaks something in either xul or web staff client, then we should loudly explain that, and say "really, not for production yet!". if it does not break anything (that we can find) then it should go in and broad testing should be encouraged. my $0.02
12:57 eeevil (and IIUC the testing so far bookbags inside the web staff client, but not in the xul or tpac modes, are having issues ... but nothing else?)
12:57 dbs Of course, determining if existing functionality is broken is tough without a comprehensive walkthrough of system features etc.
12:57 dbs See historical effort to test big XUL staff client changes and we still didn't catch everything
12:57 eeevil dbs: absolutely
12:58 dbs Maybe we could at least reuse that list of manual tests as a starting point :)
12:58 eeevil see also: acq "preview"
12:59 eeevil (granted, this is 99.9% new front-end code only, with almost no backend logic that hasn't seen real use)
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16:49 csharp and it takes a long time, even on SSD
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16:53 tsbere csharp: Well, I assume it takes a long time when the "merge from" user(s) have a lot of circs/holds. Probably faster when they don't. ;)
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17:20 csharp yeah - we're going to be processing a large dupe file this weekend.  I guess it's just going to take a while ;-)
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18:18 bshum gmcharlt++ # pointing out to me what I've been doing wrong testing holds this whole week :(
18:19 bshum I've updated bug 1350042 with my findings this afternoon.  So far I'm not seeing any further problems with my test system running OpenSRF master + Evergreen web client branch.
18:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1350042 in Evergreen "Browser staff client / merge prep" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350042
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20:40 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1362210: Install PostgreSQL packages where we can - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=57f390e>

Results for 2014-08-26

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08:39 csharp it has only taken over 3 years, but I'm finally testing tsbere's fix for bug 778989
08:39 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 778989 in Evergreen "Owning lib of asset.copy_location not visible in Item Attributes Editor UI" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778989 - Assigned to Thomas Berezansky (tsbere)
08:40 kmlussier csharp++
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10:09 csharp ok - this is why I'm asking :-)
10:10 tsbere csharp: The IF (TG_OP = 'UPDATE') THEN block is "if this is an update, skip if the location and call number haven't changed" (though adding in circ lib may be a good potential idea)
10:11 tsbere csharp: If the location has changed, the call number has changed, or TG_OP is not UPDATE (like, say, it is INSERT) then it should move onto the SELECT statement and beyond
10:11 csharp ah - gotcha
10:11 csharp okay - then let me keep testing with that in mind
10:12 tsbere csharp: Adding in "AND NEW.circ_lib = OLD.circ_lib" into the location/call number IF check would be enough for that part.
10:14 csharp got it
10:15 jeff csharp: phew. i'm glad you didn't execute @developer more than twice in a row a few minutes ago. three times in a row summons either Steve Ballmer or Beetlejuice -- I'm not sure which.
14:55 kmlussier jihpringle: I would leave it and let the developer decide if it should be removed or not.
14:55 kmlussier jihpringle: But post a comment on the bug letting them know how it worked.
14:55 jihpringle I'm posting the comment now
14:56 kmlussier jihpringle++ #testing
15:02 jihpringle kmlussier: would you load the fix for 1010027 when you have a moment?
15:04 kmlussier jihpringle: Absolutely!
15:04 jihpringle thanks :)
16:13 yboston Is Leam Whalen on IRC now by any chance? does anyone know his IRC nickname?
16:14 yboston *Liam (sorry)
16:14 kmlussier ldw ^ ^
16:14 yboston kmlussier: thanks!
16:15 yboston ldw: do you have time for me to ask you a couple of quesiotns?
16:15 yboston ldw: it concerns a bug I am testing today that you wrote code for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1282286
16:15 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1282286 in Evergreen 2.6 "Pressing Shift-F3 in the MARC editor results in invalid lose data warning" (affected: 2, heat: 14) [Undecided,New]
16:19 tsbere DPearl: Your img branch seems to rename the images, but that is all it does. Did you forget to commit the changes to the references to the images?
16:21 * collum didn't get to play in Evergreen as much as he wanted to today
16:23 dbs tsbere: that's the same message I put in the bug :)
16:24 tsbere dbs: I noticed when I went to add to the bug myself.
17:02 kmlussier jihpringle: Are you ready for the next one?
17:03 jihpringle I am, though a fix has since been committed for it
17:03 jihpringle I'd like to test it though to see what's in master since I think we have further fixes on our system
17:04 kmlussier Ah, I hadn't even noticed which one it was. We also had another request for that one to be loaded on a Sandbox. I'll load it now.
17:04 jihpringle thanks
17:09 kmlussier jihpringle: Ha ha. I clearly wasn't thinking. Since it's in master now, I didn't need to reload things. It would have been there the last time I updated your VM. Unfortunately, I didn't realize it until after I blew away your VM. It should be ready again in about 15 minutes.
17:09 jihpringle didn't occur to me either, thanks :)
17:13 kmlussier Just a note that we do have a handful of bugs with signedoff tags if anyone is looking for already-tested code to push into masters. http://bit.ly/1takjv9
17:13 * kmlussier should probably feed her children.
17:16 * mmorgan is tired from bug squashing.
17:17 mmorgan kmlussier: I am finished testing 1012308, if you need to know about that (before or after you feed your children) ;-)
17:20 kmlussier mmorgan: OK, thanks for your squashing efforts today!
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17:21 mmorgan and thanks for yours!!
17:26 yboston OK
17:26 kmlussier MassLNC is planning to keep theirs up for a while.
17:27 kmlussier That is, ours.
17:27 jihpringle kmlussier: I know the focus of today was squashing bugs but I also created a few new bug reports for minor issues I came across setting up serials testing
17:28 jihpringle I noticed that you've reported a bunch of the serials bugs
17:28 jihpringle when you have time could you confirm my new bugs?
17:28 kmlussier jihpringle: Yup. Reporting bugs is good too. They can't get fixed if nobody knows about them. :)
17:28 jihpringle https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1361786
17:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1361786 in Evergreen "Copy Template Editor Summary Displays Database IDs Rather Than Helpful Information" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
17:30 jihpringle it's the perfect time to report bugs :)
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20:18 kmlussier1 It would be nice to see bug 1189556 go in since it just fixes a small typo and has had a sign-off for more than a year.

Results for 2014-08-25

13:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#800478: Stamping upgrade script for fund transfer fix - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e40c88>
13:57 bshum Hmm
13:58 dbs Uh oh. bshum's a-thinking
13:58 bshum I'm just testing to see what happens if the websockets portion isn't deployed right and it looks like bits of the XUL staff client die off (the stuff that was changed)
13:59 bshum At some point today, I'd like to commit the first phase web client code to master, but I just wanted to see what other potential ramifications there are to having it
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14:17 bshum So yeah, without websockets running, it's an unhappy internal server error using the catalog for things like holds/lists.
14:17 bshum So it's definitely required once we add it in
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14:25 * dbs throws an (untested!) branch at http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=ref​s/heads/user/dbs/db_server_packages
14:37 bshum Hmm
14:55 bshum Otherwise, I was thinking to commit what he has so far for ease of use and then fix squeeze later on.
14:55 dbs gmcharlt: also, I didn't actually touch the debian-squeeze stuff because the databse server requirements for squeeze weren't listed in the README
14:55 eeevil kmlussier: I'll see if there's any drift that would stop it. I suspect 2.6 is fine, though.  I'll look...
14:56 kmlussier eeevil: We may also have somebody who can test it on 2.6 if it's needed.
14:57 jeff but one thing that stands out to me is that as currently planned, the number of Debian LTS releases with "current support" would be fewer than the number of Ubuntu LTS releases with "current support"
14:58 jeff ...or perhaps about the same. nevermind me.
14:59 dbs bshum: don't commit yet, there's some extra quoting in the packages that won't work
14:59 dbs yum -y install "gcc perl-Business-ISBN ..." postgresql postgresql-contrib ...
15:00 bshum dbs: Ah okay, no problem.  I was going to try it on a test server first, but I appreciate the warning.
15:00 dbs it treats the double-quoted string as a single package name :)
15:00 bshum Heh
15:00 * dbs will tweak
16:51 Bmagic kmlussier++
17:00 kmlussier tsbere++ #Extracting Concerto login information for me. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=qa:concerto_logins
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Results for 2014-08-22

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14:15 thatoneguy Hello.
14:16 Guest99884 nick/that1guy
14:16 that1guy Hello.
14:24 mceraso gmcharlt: Tested OpenSRF 2.4.0 alpha on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It works well!
14:24 gmcharlt mceraso++
14:26 gmcharlt mceraso: have you tried the websockets setup?
14:27 mceraso Not yet...are there install instructions for those?
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17:01 kmlussier Before I sign off for the night, I'll report that we have requests from six people to test 11 development branches on Sandboxes. And nobody requested the same branch. Not bad!
17:02 kmlussier Havea  nice weekend everyone!
17:10 Bmagic Have a good one!
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17:11 Bmagic Can anyone help me think of reasons why copies would not be included in a hold_copy_map for a title level hold where all of the copies have the same circ_mod,ref,circ,holdable,opac_visible. I have a hold on a title and only one of the 6 copies are being put in the pool
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18:44 tsbere Bmagic: Location/status not holdable, perhaps? Copies too new (targeter hasn't been run since they were added for that hold)? Selection depth (hard/soft boundaries in play)?
18:44 tsbere Oh, wait, if by "circ" you meant "circ lib" then selection depth wouldn't come into play
18:45 tsbere The rest still hold as possible ;)

Results for 2014-08-21

07:43 bshum For the apache 2.4 websockets config
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07:44 csharp bshum: nope - let me apply those too
07:44 bshum And srfsh passes the math test?
07:45 csharp actually... no
07:45 bshum I didn't get any errors on start, but I got no response error from srfsh
07:46 bshum I bet if you look at osrfsys.log you'll see some sort of 500 error
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10:08 * tsbere spins up a trusty VM on masslnc's server to do a test of clean install of opensrf/evergreen master there
10:09 krvmga in browse search (eg 2.5) , is there a global option somewhere to tell the system to ignore initial articles?
10:09 krvmga (a, an, the)
10:09 krvmga for example
11:14 gmcharlt tsbere: I've only just started looking at it, but thus far my assumption is that it's the patch for 1350457 that's triggering it
11:15 tsbere gmcharlt: Want file and line number?
11:15 gmcharlt yeah
11:16 tsbere gmcharlt: Application.pm line 562 (I search for "caller's" to grab the comment on the end of the line) - the $self->session looks to be the problem. My tests seem to show that $self isn't actually a ref at all, but I could have written that wrong.
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11:17 * tsbere isn't sure how that ends up working
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11:18 gmcharlt tsbere: my plan is to poke at that for a bit, but just revert if necessary
11:43 mrpeters just trying to decide if i should roll with current opensrf on 14.04 for 2.7 or wait it out, thanks!
11:43 gmcharlt mrpeters: yeah, it will basically be out just before 2.7.0
11:43 gmcharlt as far as what version to use, 2.3.0 is fine *unless* you want to try out the web-based staff client bits that are targetedf for 2.7-beta2
11:43 mrpeters cool, its mostly for testing our GenaSYS stuff so I'll await the alpha, since we're using beta2 for Evergreen
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11:44 bshum Hmm
11:45 bshum gmcharlt: So the changes in opensrf_core.xml for things like the loglength and msg_size_warn need to be reflected in the copy for Evergreen too I guess?
12:09 gmcharlt moving on... my next steps for OpenSRF today are seeing if the CORS support patch works, then writing some release notes and releasing the alph
12:09 gmcharlt a
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12:10 bshum I just finished getting the web client squash branch on my test server
12:11 bshum I'm trying to figure out what I missed to get it actually functional
12:11 bshum And I think whatever I missed is leaving me with broken hold placement / bookbags in the staff client's catalog view.
12:11 bshum The main client
12:11 bshum *XUL
12:11 gmcharlt bshum: I set up a web-based staff client demo server the other day (independent of berick), and I can compare notes if you want
12:12 bshum Those were two areas berick specifically mentioned to test and both are not functioning.
12:12 bshum gmcharlt: Thanks, I'm definitely in uncharted territory
12:12 bshum There's comments on the ticket about installing dependencies for the web client
12:13 bshum But I'm not seeing those reflected in the README or any associated files in the root level
12:13 bshum I'm checking around to see what I might have missed
12:14 gmcharlt bshum: ./Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default/staff/README.install
12:14 bshum gmcharlt: Ahh, there we are.
12:14 bshum Thanks!
14:43 gmcharlt having multiple mentors would be good, based on GSoC experience
14:45 graced kmlussier: I think I'd feel better if we worked backwards - ID some projects that need doing and are accessible and get committed mentors who know that area and then ask for the funding?
14:45 bbqben kmlussier re: the $6250 ...
14:45 yboston For the record, I have used three seperate MLS students as interns. I ended up spending a huge amount of time training them for what I needed them to do (build test servers, AciiDoc, etc.). Luckily I have saved some of my trainign materials, and would be willing to help mentor
14:45 bbqben ...is there flexibility in how the funds are applied?
14:45 kmlussier Flexibility in what sense?
14:46 graced The sponsorship per intern includes $5,500 (USD) stipend, $500 travel allowance, and a $250-500 administrative fee for the GNOME Foundation.
15:06 RoganH montgoc1: great!
15:06 pmurray Any reason not to use an RSS feed from http://jobs.code4lib.org/jobs/Evergreen/
15:07 * pmurray goes back into lurking mode.
15:07 bshum #info Ben Shum wrote a blog post about 2.7.0-beta1 at http://evergreen-ils.org/eve​rgreen-2-7-0-beta1-released/
15:07 bshum Big thanks to everyone who participated in development, testing, writing release notes
15:07 bshum I think it's the first time we've had such comprehensive coverage of all new features in the notes on first pass.
15:08 bshum Later today/tomorrow, we'll make a final call on the web client preview going in (pending further testing)
15:08 csharp pmurray: nice - I didn't know about that
15:08 bbqben bshum ++
15:08 bshum I expect that we'll get some more work done during the Bug Squashing Day (see http://evergreen-ils.org/ev​ergreen-bug-squashing-day/)
15:08 kmlussier bshum++
15:08 csharp bshum++
15:08 bshum And that'll lead us to a better 2.7.0-RC1 if all goes according to timeline
15:09 graced As an aside, Equinox will have the public test/demo server for the web based client up by tomorrow.
15:09 yboston bshum++
15:09 RoganH graced: yay!
15:10 bbqben Wahoo, thanks for the update bshum and graced
15:22 pinesol_green kmlussier: Karma for "bbqben" has been increased 24 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 24.
15:22 gmcharlt bshum: I have a lead on that error you were getting bringing up the patron search form
15:26 gmcharlt bshum: this both explains and solves the problem - http://paste.lisp.org/display/143457
15:26 bshum gmcharlt: Aha!
15:26 * bshum tests
15:26 gmcharlt upshot is that JSON2js in OpenSRF is now also stricter as a result of berick's change
15:27 Dyrcona bbqben++ :p
15:46 gmcharlt bshum: bug 1359934
15:55 bbqben pmurray no worries at all! gmcharlt can be distracting for all of us ;)
15:56 kmlussier pmurray: Ha ha. Maybe we can have gmcharlt tweet at every meeting to get more people to poke their heads in.
15:56 pmurray In case it was missed, the tweet was https://twitter.com/gmcharl​t/status/502524970052771840
16:00 bshum gmcharlt: Patch looks good and my test server's XUL patron search is happier now.
16:03 bshum I'll get it signed and into master as a bug fix
16:07 bshum So far, not encountering other errors in the XUL client
16:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1359934: prevent error opening patron search form - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=646d132>
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16:43 kmlussier Weeee! I just set up my first Sandbox with a working branch loaded.
16:43 bshum tsbere++
16:45 kmlussier Bmagic++ #Setting up Sandboxes from MOBIUS
16:46 kmlussier Now we just need more people to request them. :)
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17:14 kmlussier Hmmm...is there an easy way to figure out what staff/user logins can be used with Concerto? It might be nice to provide that info on a wiki page somewhere.
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17:24 * kmlussier should stop testing bug fixes and save it for Bug Squashing Day.
17:24 kmlussier Have a nice night everyone!
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18:21 ktomita Is the fact that a user is also an OverDrive user stored somewhere in the Evergreen database?

Results for 2014-08-20

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13:31 gmcharlt kmlussier: sure; since you'll be following the EOB discussions tomorrow, may I task you with putting out that call for volunteers?
13:31 kmlussier Sure
13:32 gmcharlt #action kmlussier will put out a call for a volunteer for somebody to curate the job listings
13:32 gmcharlt #action gmcharlt will install the WP Job Manager plugging for testing
13:33 gmcharlt any other discussion regarding the jobs listing service?
13:34 RoganH I'm willing to work on the job listings.
13:35 kmlussier RoganH++
13:35 gmcharlt #info Rogan Hamby has volunteered to assist with the job listings
14:44 bshum kmlussier: Yeah well, I hate those being there too ;)
14:44 bshum As being generally intrusive to my screen real estate
14:45 Dyrcona See, I just don't use my phone for the web unless I really have to.
14:45 collum I tested on a clean install.  I don't find it intrusive, but it is green links on a green background.  Another option would be a drop-down with the 3 search options on the same line as the 'Go to' drop-down.
14:46 Dyrcona My phone's main purpose seems to be the playing of Candy Crush.
14:46 Dyrcona collum++
14:46 kmlussier I used to use my phone for the library catalog all the time (when I had a smarter phone). Easier to use than looking something up on a public workstation.
14:46 Dyrcona collum: I followed up with a muddled message that I think the ids of the added links should be used.
14:47 kmlussier collum: Yes, thanks for the comment and testing! I saw that. I think she can probably fix that up.
14:47 bshum Oh, so is that why I can't see the links on the clean master :)
14:47 Dyrcona I got distracted while editing the comment and it didn't come out quite perfect.
14:48 Dyrcona You can see them just fine at http://jasondev.mvlcstaff.org/, but then I'd need to give you an account.
14:49 bshum Switched to responsive view on Firefox to see the box spaces
14:50 Dyrcona collum: We use ids a lot in the existing css, and since the ids are in the new html, why not?
14:50 Dyrcona But I get the point, classes can be more flexible, since ids are supposed to be unique per document.
14:50 kmlussier collum++ #testing
14:51 bshum I guess it depends on how prominently you want search to be made to end users :)
14:51 * bshum supposes it could work this way
14:52 * berick just pulled a Kendall Square walking map from his bag
14:55 berick i don't doubt it
15:00 bshum The "search:" label in strong is tough to read with the green background too.  Black on dark green is a bit hard to make out.
15:17 kmlussier bshum: I'm guessing that when she's working to address the issues collum reported, she'll use colors that work best with the green background. But I would recommend adding that kind of feedback to the LP bug since she's not here.
15:17 * dbs recommends wave.webaim.org for accessibility testing for things like contrast
15:18 dbs (but then again, not sure that's going to help for mobile stylesheet. hrm.)
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17:00 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1316245: JS now uses browser-native JSON routines - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=6c3b100>
17:10 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1343578: Add support for log tagging - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=512f77b>
17:10 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1343578: Perl/C syslog "logtag" additions. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=2f4ed86>
17:10 pinesol_green [opensrf|Galen Charlton] LP#1343578: document <logtag> in the example opensrf_core.xml - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=54da75b>
17:12 kmlussier Have a nice night everyone!
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16:10 kmlussier +1 to the flag. Making it configurable seems like a good approach.
16:10 pinesol_green eeevil: unknown tag 21
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16:33 tsbere Testing VM building scripts can be a PITA because you can't tell if they work unless you wait for an entire VM to build. >_>
16:49 Dyrcona Well, yeah....
16:53 berick vbox_snapshots_and_cloning++
16:59 tsbere berick: That doesn't help when you want to have a script build you a fully clean one. From scratch. ;)
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19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: websocket: avoid sharedworker for firefox 29 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=9fdef97>
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19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: JS status codes can come across as numbers; stringify for match - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=c65c6d9>
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: update JS/WS/SSL code comment - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=755a586>
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: disable shared workers pending browser issues - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=2677f8e>
19:09 bshum berick++ gmcharlt++
19:11 gmcharlt bshum: this may be useful for Apache 2.4 - http://paste.lisp.org/display/143442
19:11 bshum Cool! Thanks.
19:12 gmcharlt that reflects tweaks I made to get it working on Debian testing
19:13 bshum Gotcha
19:13 gmcharlt also - it's necessary that the SSL certificate that your test system uses be valid
19:13 bshum Okay, that shouldn't be a problem.
19:13 gmcharlt if you need to test with a self-signed cert on Chrome or Chromimum, one workaround is to start the browser with  --ignore-certificate-errors
19:15 bshum Good tips, thanks Galen!
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11:11 kmlussier I'm about to add a post to the community blog re: bug squashing day, but want to share this link again to make sure everything fits in with community procedures on testing/wrangling bugs. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=dev:bug_squashing:2014-08-26
11:14 kmlussier Also, I'll probably do a quick video on how to sign off on bugs with Git GUI, but I had also floated an idea on the list last month about allowing people to sign off via a comment on LP. gmcharlt was the only person to respond to that question. http://markmail.org/message/ndjxvc7po4rpn3cg
11:42 bshum kmlussier: I'm generally fine with gmcharlt's suggestion as long as we know that the person who says they've tested it comes from a site where we have some previously known presence (i.e. someone who actually loaded the patch to a server for testing)
11:42 bshum Assuming a non-developer person is to the one giving the nod to signoff via LP.
11:43 bshum I generally assume this to be true anyways, but it's one of those things we'll eyeball I guess.
11:43 gmcharlt bshum: I think we are more likely to get more testers if we assume good faith until proven otherwise
11:44 bshum gmcharlt: Sure, I've generally committed based on whichever signoffs I can get anyways :)
11:45 bshum But it's good to be clear on that upfront, thanks.
11:46 kmlussier Do we want to ask that they use specific language when adding the comment to the LP bug?
11:47 kmlussier Using the language gmcharlt used in his e-mail: "I have tested this code and consent to signing off on it."?
11:48 bshum Some variant of "We tested this and it looks good to us, please add our signoff" seems fine to me.  As long as they generally understand what it means to signoff on code.  (aka, the DCO)
11:48 gmcharlt ... "with my email address and name or consistent alias"
11:48 bshum Ah good addition, gmcharlt++
11:48 * Dyrcona wonders if anyone would notice opensrf.settings and open-ils.cat restarting in the middle of the day.
11:50 gmcharlt well, it /is/ the meaning -- for patch authors
11:50 bshum Ahh, authors, gotcha.
11:51 bshum Got it now.
11:51 gmcharlt "Tested-by" would be more clear, but until git has a convenient --add-tested-by switch...
11:52 bshum Hehe
12:06 Dyrcona Signed-off-by means, "I approve this commit," which implies, "I tested this commit."
12:14 kmlussier gmcharlt: I added the sign-off text here. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=de​v:bug_squashing:2014-08-26&amp;#testing_bugs Is this what you had in mind?
12:15 gmcharlt kmlussier: +1
12:15 bshum +1
16:49 sseng_ yboston: =)
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17:06 dbs @later tell kmlussier you are cryptic :)
17:06 pinesol_green dbs: The operation succeeded.
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17:33 mllewellyn sseng_: my understanding is that 151 would not control 710. Tag 110 should control a 710
17:35 sseng_ mllewellyn: got it. that was my understanding as well. It's just, we have a bib that was in an export to backstage, and it has a 710 tag. It appears to be the only bib that could possibly generate an authority record, except that authority record heading is a 151 main heading.
17:38 mllewellyn sseng: I've seen headings for the United States that would appear to be treating as a corporate body, but was a 151 instead. Maybe your original 710 was improperly tagged?

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17:45 kmlussier I need to head out, but I would welcome any feedback on my work-in-progress wiki page on bug wrangling day, particular the area on testing bugs. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=dev:bug_squashing:2014-08-26
17:45 kmlussier I'll check for feedback on Monday a.m. too before I send anything out on the list.
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Results for 2014-08-14

09:15 pinesol_green csharp: Obviously.
09:16 berick heh
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09:21 csharp wow - SSDs, where have you been all my (Evergreen-administering) life?
09:22 csharp based on my initial tests, our upgrades will cease to need multiple day-long downtimes
09:24 bradl ssd++
09:25 bradl csharp: what's your setup? /me gets a coke and a moonpie and sits in the rocking chair, awaiting
09:25 csharp heh
09:26 csharp we have 3 Dell R815s with 512 GB RAM and 4 480 GB SLC SSDs in RAID5 (I think)
09:27 csharp with a 4th identical server for prototyping and testing
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09:27 csharp oh, and 64 cores
09:28 csharp it's really kind of crazy
09:28 bradl hmm, even with RAID-5, which is probably one of the worst I/O performant schemes
09:28 csharp it may be another scheme - awitter set it up
09:29 bradl well, that's awesome
15:29 kmlussier It could be help in specing out the goals. Coding. And funding may need to come into play too.
15:30 kmlussier kakes: Yes, I think doing it offline makes sense.
15:31 kakes Ok. Being new to the community does it sound reasonable that this could be rated by the end of August?
15:31 jihpringle do we want institutions to be saying what they can contribue? coding, funding, testing etc.
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15:31 kmlussier jihpringle: Yes, that's what I was thinking.
15:31 yboston jihpringle: I would like to see that
17:00 Dyrcona Nope. Take that back.
17:01 Dyrcona credit card payments inherit from bnm_desk_payment, so they'll be there.
17:01 Dyrcona Anyway, time for me to go home.
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17:09 phasefx I think another one of those startup race conditions ^
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Results for 2014-08-13

16:45 csharp @quote add < eeevil> Now I am become Death, the destroyer of SIP2.
16:45 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #88 added.
16:50 dbs Let's kickstart that movie
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16:59 jeff dbs: finally looking at your paste shared above... so it appears your eg_vhost.conf still has the default <Location /eg> declaration, but you supplement it in the VirtualHost after including it?
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17:09 kmlussier @karma authorities
17:16 dbs jeff: because that way was the least duplication
17:17 jeff yes. I'm happy to see confirmation that that's possible. it simplifies things greatly.
17:17 dbs That, or we're horribly broken and just haven't realized it yet :)
17:31 jeff poking at test again (this time with a KCL-registered workstation -- bah), i'm seeing stat cats, but without populated values for "pick from the drop-down". looking at my document for things like demographic stat cats, i see i didn't actually share it outside of tadl. :P
17:31 jeff and bah.
17:31 jeff wrong channel. apologies. :-)
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