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miker |
_bott_: aye. thanks for testing it |
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dbwells |
kmlussier: anything to note on the feedback soliciting? |
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kmlussier |
I didn't get to that action item. I'll have to defer it for next month's meeting. |
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kmlussier |
I'll send something out this week. |
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dbwells |
okay, thank you |
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dbwells |
#info kmlussier will post to open-ils-dev soliciting feedback on the release process documentation (carry over) |
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dbwells |
sorry, let me action that |
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dbwells |
#action kmlussier will post to open-ils-dev soliciting feedback on the release process documentation |
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dbwells |
#topic OpenSRF release info |
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dbwells |
#info OpenSRF 2.5-alpha was release on 7 December 2016 |
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dbwells |
Does anyone else have comment on that? |
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dbwells |
as a reminder, gmcharlt is hoping for testing of three aspects: |
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dbwells |
1. the proxy configurations |
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dbwells |
2. bundling and chunking |
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dbwells |
3. TZ changes |
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dbwells |
#topic Evergreen release info |
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dbwells |
#topic state of Arabic translation |
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dbwells |
phasefx: Might you be available for a quick update? Not seeing the others in channel. |
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kmlussier |
I know there has been a lot of discussion on this over the past week. I think Nawjo may have found a solution that works for him locally. |
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dbwells |
#info some progress has been made on Arabic support with some localized changes |
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kmlussier |
There has been talk of including support in 2.12, but I don't know if anyone is actively working on it. |
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berick |
kmlussier: yes |
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dbwells |
sorry, didn't even realize the bug already had two branches on it. |
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kmlussier |
berick: I didn't address it in my web client e-mail from last week, but that was mostly an oversight. Do you consider this as a must-have branch for production use of the web client? |
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berick |
kmlussier: if we want anyone to test Hatch in production, yes |
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berick |
otherwise, not a showstopper, I don't think, but a nice to have |
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berick |
so we can start smoothing over any bugs introduced i this code |
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berick |
and fix a few along the way |
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kmlussier |
OK, I think I'm going to stop short of calling it a showstopper, but I agree that it would be better to have it in there. |
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kmlussier |
And we had people (including me) who volunteered to test it during the last meeting. I don't know if jeff or gmcharlt had a chance to look at it, but I know I didn't. |
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gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, back from a competing meeting |
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csharp |
kmlussier: not a showstopper for 2.12, but I would consider it one for 3.0 (first web client GA release) |
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kmlussier |
@blame competing meetings. |
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kmlussier |
jeffdavis: Are there specific pieces of it we can help out with? |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah, time is my shortest commodity at the moment. "So much to do....So much to do..." |
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dbwells |
jeffdavis: I probably wouldn't be able to merge your branch, since we don't subscribe to the services. Is any part testable without subscription? |
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jeffdavis |
My current plan is to get the key UI bits working over the next couple of weeks, then share that with some basic documentation. |
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jeffdavis |
There is a test module which will be usable for seeing how it works without having subscribed to OverDrive or OneClickdigital's APIs. |
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jeffdavis |
although of course testing against live external systems would be important for including it in a release :) |
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jeffdavis |
kmlussier: not so much specific pieces until the above is done. Hoping that devs can weigh in if there are issues with the approach outlined in the LP bug, otherwise just wanted to raise awareness of this work. |
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kmlussier |
If I wanted to test it against our Overdrive, would I need to sign up for an API key ahead of time? |
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jeffdavis |
Yes. My attempts to arrange shareable vendor API access for testing have not panned out so far. |
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kmlussier |
OK, I'll try to go about doing that in preparation for testing. There's a lot of interest here too. :) |
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dbwells |
Well, I'd say awareness has been raised. Thanks for bringing it up. Anything else before I end the meeting? |
| 13:55 |
kmlussier |
Yes |
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kmlussier |
I just wanted to remind everyone that I would like to schedule a web client hacking day to get more work done on the web client before the beta release. |
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agoben |
well and all the other things tied to the item ID :) |
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JBoyer |
I can't decide if it's a good thing or a bad one that it isn't reproducible. :/ |
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csharp |
works on our 2.11.1 test server as far as I can tell |
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csharp |
usually feels worse when it's not reproducible in other places :-/ |
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* JBoyer |
is leaning that way |
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* mmorgan |
just checked the asset.copy table and confirmed that it's not happening on our 2.11.1 system. |
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JBoyer |
I suppose that means I should stop looking at git.evergreen-ils.org and start looking more closely at our local branch. |
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miker |
Dyrcona: strictly speaking, should not be necessary, and we don't. autogen de-populates memcache of objects it creates, IIRC |
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Dyrcona |
miker: Thanks. I recall tsbere telling me something like that a year or two ago, and I don't always restart apache after running autogen, but often do on my dev vms at least. |
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Dyrcona |
Sometimes, that's because I just restarted services before doing the autogen, maybe. ;) |
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_bott_ |
tsbere: You may find this useful, re Net::HTTP http://pastebin.com/raw/HpMzeRK1 |
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_bott_ |
That's the result of a few lines of Perl, testing read_response_headers() |
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* csharp |
doesn't usually restart apache after autogen runs |
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Dyrcona |
cssh++ |
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Dyrcona |
bshum++ # For recommending cssh |
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jeff |
i see some shady characters in your future... wait, no. malformed characters -- not shady. |
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* jeff |
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berick |
the spirits all recoil in horror at MARC |
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kmlussier |
Looks like it will be 1 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday the 10th. I'll add it to the calendar and send out an e-mail. |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt / miker: If you're around, I was thinking of testing/merging the recent web client code in the collab branch either today or first thing Monday. Is there current activity happening there that would make it a bad idea for me to do so? |
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gmcharlt |
kmlussier: no, the branch should be in a stable enough state |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Great, thanks! |
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* kmlussier |
also noticed that we're just a month away from feature slush. Yikes! |
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Dyrcona |
Bmagic: Have you had problems with added content? |
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_bott_ |
fwiw, NoveList had no issues |
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Dyrcona |
_bott_: Thanks! I haven't tested added content on Ubuntu 16. |
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_bott_ |
Nor had I. That's what production is for! |
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Dyrcona |
Come to think of it.... Let me check something. I might have inadvertently tested Content Cafe. ;) |
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Dyrcona |
Nope. False alarm. |
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Guest82566 |
Hi, does anyone use the Evergreen integrated credit card payment at the front desk? We use the online integrated payments and would like to look into using the front line payments as well. |
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Dyrcona |
Oh, wait. Wrong server. Yes, I have run 16.04 on a test vm where I believe Content Cafe was configured and don't recall seeing any issues. |
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Dyrcona |
Guest82566: Don't do that, unless you like paying lots of money in PCI insurance premiums. |
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Guest82566 |
Thanks, Dyrcona. |
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Guest82566 |
Thank you, Jeff. |
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berick |
"2.75% per swipe, dip, or tap" -- spending piles of money was never so adorable |
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Dyrcona |
berick: They all hit you with fees, but I can say from experience if you're processing the CC transactions through Evergreen, you will also pay for the insurance, because you will not pass the tests. |
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Dyrcona |
_bott_ Do yo have customizations to the Syndetics code? |
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_bott_ |
Dyrcona: Nope, nothing for them. |
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Dyrcona |
OK. Just aking, 'cause I know you have some customizations. |
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bshum |
Bmagic: Did you test the added content in the record details, like _bott_ noted issue for? I'm not sure if it was just that or if it affected covers, _bott_ ? |
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bshum |
I think he said reviews, etc. right? |
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bshum |
reviews, summary, etc. |
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_bott_ |
bshum: correct. |
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_bott_ |
Tabs display for each of the noted, but no content |
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_bott_ |
All seems happy until my ($code) = $req->read_response_headers; in Record.pm. $code ends up empty |
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Dyrcona |
_bott_: So, I'm looking at content cafe via the opac on my old, MVLC development vm. (It's still running after over 6 months of not being touched!) |
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Dyrcona |
Novelist is working fine, but the content cafe stuff is acting bizarre. |
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Dyrcona |
So, it looks like you're on to something. |
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csharp |
We'll be testing on 16.04 soon (post upgrade to 2.11 next weekend) and we use Syndetics - if it's not solved by then, I'm willing to help |
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Bmagic |
bshum Dyrcona: sorry, I was away, I am catching up here |
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JBoyer |
csharp, what kind of use are you seeing on your 2.11 testing server? I'm seeing a lot of seemingly random waiting on locks here. (Slony might be contributing to that though, but it has increased dramatically since the upgrade.) |
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Bmagic |
bshum: no I didn't check that. Just the book jackets (most obvious) - I will have to take a closer look at that added content stuff |
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NawJO |
Hello everyone, I was thinking lately on solving RTL-LTR switching in TPAC, I created a custom RTL template and added it to eg.conf. I thought to add a conditional sentence on applying RTL template, but I have no clue, can you help me? |
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bshum |
So that does seem to point at a 16.04 problem with added content handling :\ |
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Bmagic |
sounds plausable |
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* bshum |
doesn't have any added content codes to test with, so will leave it in more experienced hands now :) |
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bshum |
NawJO: What I was thinking was to change something in ../opac/parts/base.tt2 |
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bshum |
In there, we define the stylesheets |
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bshum |
So I was thinking to put an [% IF something.locale.something = "ar-AR" check there to see if we were using a particular locale, and then add a link to the stylesheet we add in |
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miker |
NawJO: looks like you could add something like the following to templates/opac/css/style.css.tt2 ... |
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bshum |
Otherwise, it'll skip it |
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bshum |
but sounds like miker has ideas too :) |
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NawJO |
everything set to right must be set to left and vice versa |
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NawJO |
it's not too different, but every right is changed to left, and every left is changed to right |
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NawJO |
like margin-left to margin-right, float:left to float: right |
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miker |
ah! I see. just went to the test site. |
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NawJO |
http://104.251.212.186/eg/opac/home |
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miker |
very cool |
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Bmagic |
bshum: I think this proves it |
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NawJO |
it's time for me to go offline. Have a good time :) |
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berick |
@tea my-belly |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Wild Snow Sprout Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to my-belly (http://ratetea.com/tea/wild-tea-qi/wild-snow-sprout-tea/6447/) |
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sam_l |
Staff client, and thank you! |
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sam_l |
rhamby++ |
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sam_l |
One of our branches just got new computers, and we wanted to give correct instructions to IT before they went to set them up. |
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csharp |
sam_l: from our scant testing, Windows 10 works fine |
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Dyrcona |
It works fine on our Windows 10 thin clients. |
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csharp |
I would actually predict better performance based on everything I know about Windows 10 (which isn't a whole lot) |
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sam_l |
Thanks. I passed the info on. |
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kmlussier |
phasefx: Was Eva planning to attend too? I see her name is on the agenda. |
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phasefx |
kmlussier: I hadn't heard from her |
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Nawjo |
Kmlussier, Great! |
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bshum |
Like are the records primarily in english, but they have translated arabic strings for things like title, etc. |
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bshum |
I've seen that before for other language records like chinese, etc. |
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bshum |
I'd love to get some sample records to append to Concerto for future testing, actually.... hmm.... |
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Dyrcona |
Georgian records are quite pretty.... |
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Dyrcona |
I can't read it, but the script is nice. |
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kmlussier |
OK, poll for scheduling the meeting next week is at http://doodle.com/poll/esxgzfum2cwkbv7v |
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bshum |
I've been thinking about the RTL vs. LTR issues lately |
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bshum |
I'd love to see the stylesheet this was created with |
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kmlussier |
That's interesting. So the RTL stylesheet isn't dependent on the locale that's selected? I see everything goes RTL when French is selected. |
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Nawjo |
actually, I'm not familiar with EG yet. I'm trying to apply Arabic translation, then I'll add some testing data . |
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bshum |
It's probably forced |
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Nawjo |
yes exactly ! Stylesheets must change according to locale , but I couldnt achieve that |
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bshum |
I've been thinking about how to design some variable that would detect which direction based on the chosen language and apply appropriately |
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Nawjo |
I'm not that one :D haha |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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Nawjo |
bshum I've just sent the styles to your mail :) |
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bshum |
Nawjo: Cool, look forward to playing with that more in the coming days |
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bshum |
I'll send you what I can put together to try new RTL variable detecting when I get a test server put together to try things out |
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Nawjo |
that's good :) |
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bshum |
Nawjo++ # welcome and thanks for sharing, look forward to working with you more on this |
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Nawjo |
thank you bshum :) |
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kmlussier |
Nawjo++ # thanks for starting the conversation on this! |
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kmlussier |
bshum++ # For diving in further. |
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Nawjo |
I can't wait till I see our libraries using Arabic Evergreen ILS:) Thank you for your help and support. Your team is friendly and nice, nice to talk to you all :) |
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vlewis |
kmlussier # I'm working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1522644 webclient: Transfer title holds issues So you think I should move or remove the button? |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1522644 in Evergreen "webclient: Transfer title holds issues" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Victoria Lewis (sykeslewis) |
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kmlussier |
vlewis: Personally, I think we should remove it. Or maybe comment it out? |
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kmlussier |
That way, if somebody really wants to use it, they could easily reinstate it. |
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mmorgan |
That sounds like a good solution to me. |
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kmlussier |
vlewis: There were concerns when I tried to remove it from the xul client a while back, but now it's really easy to select all the holds and select the "transfer selected" option. |
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* kmlussier |
had hoped to test some of the new web client fixes today, but got caught up in a more tedious task. Sigh... |
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vlewis |
I can comment it out. |
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kmlussier |
Better than my alert suggestion from last month - http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2016-11-29#i_277681 |
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chatter |
allah is doing |
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chatter |
sun is not doing allah is doing |
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chatter |
to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger |
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berick |
JBoyer: upgrade went OK? |
| 12:40 |
JBoyer |
Splendidly. From a 2.9 to 2.11 db in less than 10 minutes. (not counting the pingest, of course) Would have been even better had I not just overlaid 2M+ records and caused so much table bloat that I almost ran the volume out of space last night. :/ |
| 12:41 |
JBoyer |
Still working on mitigating that but things aren't dire anymore. |
| 12:41 |
csharp |
JBoyer++ |
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csharp |
JBoyer: 10 minutes!? my test runs have taken 2-3 hours |
| 12:42 |
csharp |
2.9.1 - 2.11.1 |
| 12:42 |
JBoyer |
Had we it to do over again, we probably wouldn't have made a lot of noise about the email receipt feature because no one realized it didn't work with the XUL client. Might have to see how hard it is to wedge in there later. :/ |
| 12:43 |
csharp |
(we're upgrading over MLK weekend) |
| 12:44 |
JBoyer |
I had several thousand lines worth already in our db because I wrote them. ;) (Also, the reingest took bloody ages but I don't generally count that since you can spin services back up while that's running.) |
| 12:45 |
csharp |
reingest (pingest.pl with 16 children, batches of 10K) took about 36 hours in my test run |
| 12:47 |
JBoyer |
Oh, yes, and as far as our highly misaligned ccvm and ccaed tables, I cloned them from a fresh stock db and replaced everything with an id < 10000 pre-reingest. Now all of our translations line up and we won't have to special case every single new locale or es-ES update that comes along. |
| 12:49 |
JBoyer |
csharp, if there's enough time before we "open" again I'll let pingest burn through 35 out of 40 cores. It still only hits a load of around 20 but I don't want to risk it getting too much closer to 40 in case things start taking more oomph than expected.. |
| 12:52 |
csharp |
hmm - we have 64 cores, so maybe I should up the child count |
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jeff |
well, the good news there might be that moving these two affected workstations to a newer client might help. i think they're still running a 2.7 build that works by virtue of a server-side symlink. |
| 14:11 |
jeff |
(or it's not really the OS after all) |
| 14:11 |
berick |
fwiw i'm not using a community build, i'm using a custom script that does pretty much the same thing |
| 14:11 |
JBoyer |
I didn't see that either with my (admittedly limited) testing on my mac over the weekend. I also may not be packaging the latest "supported" version of XULRunner in my package, which one was included in the client that had the disappearing menubar? |
| 14:14 |
jeff |
according to Contents/Frameworks/XUL.framework/Versions in each app bundle, the 2.7 and 2.10 apps i have handy are both 14.0.1 |
| 14:18 |
JBoyer |
I can't really check until almost 5 or 6, but I'm curious if a different version would have an effect on the transparent background problem even if it turns out this issue is something local. |
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You're probably correct. |
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Dyrcona |
I'll have to look at it some more tomorrow. |
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Dyrcona |
I'm not having any issues, just comparing configurations across twenty some odd servers. :) |
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Dyrcona |
And, I think I fixed two bugs with one branch! :) |
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JBoyer |
Good to hear someone's having some luck today. :) |
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miker |
JBoyer: iirc, email checkout receipts only happen in built-in selfcheck and the web client, not xul... but on my phone without code to check ATM |
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JBoyer |
miker, Looking over the specs finally that sounds more likely. If it works in the web client maybe we can use that as an incentive to get more testing done here. |
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JBoyer |
I must have assumed it was generic rather than based on interface |
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JBoyer |
The release notes are also a bit too vague to be helpful re: where this works. |
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Just popping to say: It works! :) |
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Fixed 3 bugs in two branches. |
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jvwoolf |
Hi everybody! I'm trying to add a new page to our OPAC. It's working in test, but I have to sign in to view it. I've scoured the docs, but I can't figure out how to make it public. Any tips? |
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Dyrcona |
jvwoolf: I think that's largely a function of where you put the file. |
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tsbere |
jvwoolf: You will need to edit the TPAC perl code to add your page before the auth check |
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jvwoolf |
OK, that's where I edited it. |
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Dyrcona |
And, that's what I thought....You'll want to make a copy of that file and make a diff of the changes or you'll lose them at the next upgrade. |
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Dyrcona |
If you run bricks, you'll need to update it on every brick, too. |
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jvwoolf |
Ahh. Gotcha. |
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jvwoolf |
I'm only doing this in test at the moment. |
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Dyrcona |
OK, but for production, I'd recommend doing as tsbere suggests and making the change in the source and then copying the final version into place. |
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Dyrcona |
Git really helps with managing little changes like this, too. |
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jvwoolf |
I've got it now. Thank you. |
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miker |
I'll see if I can find a minute to look a that later today |
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miker |
_bott_: I think http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/miker/aclg-cdbi-for-badges will help you... |
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_bott_ |
ah, makes sense. I'll give it a whirl. |
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I'm looking at the 2.11 SIP feature that treats location as workstation. I'm not getting it to work on our test system. |
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mmorgan |
I can make connections and perform transactions, but the location isn't being recognized as the workstation. |
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mmorgan |
Any ideas? |
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mmorgan |
Also tried adding the location_code to the config file for the staff user and that's not working either. |
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tsbere |
mmorgan: Just to be sure, did you make sure that both Evergreen and SIPServer are up to date? |
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mmorgan |
Yes, I checked Sip.pm and SIPServer.pm, both are up to date. |
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tsbere |
and you either defined client_location_code as "true" for the institution block (passing in a valid workstation name in the login step) or location_code to a valid workstation name? |
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mmorgan |
Hmm. Still no luck. Will need to revisit this tomorrow |
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mmorgan |
tsbere++ |
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mmorgan |
Thanks for the suggestions. |
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* tsbere |
goes and looks, finding Dyrcona's description to be good enough |
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tsbere |
I considered responding with something like "Well, that depends. I can describe how to make it work in any of the ways described". <_< |
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Dyrcona |
Yes....I deleted a paragraph or two about seeing me at the conference for the gory details, and about waking up in the middle of the night screaming, "Cthulh Ftaghn!" if you try to get fancy. :) |
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* tsbere |
came up with a few very convoluted setups for testing purposes at one point |
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tsbere |
Including one "apply this rule to this user group, but not to the child group" that depended on circ fallthrough, the limits sets *not* having fallthrough, and a couple other things |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah, I didn't want to go there, though I didn't think about the possibility of different limits for different user groups when writing the email. |
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tsbere |
Basically I went for "what is the most convoluted thing I think this can do based on the documentation I just made for it?" and then tried to make it work. And did. ;) |
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Dyrcona |
I mean, you could add a matchpoint so that one library's checkout limit applies while the other's circ rules apply, but why would you do that? |
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Dyrcona |
Heh. |
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Dyrcona |
Sometimes, it is good to test the limits. |
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JBoyer |
tsbere, Dyrcona, Am I remembering correctly that one of you had a query that would look at config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and somehow display the weights that each row would result in? I'm - considering - something for the conference and that would be a big help. |
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tsbere |
I think we have a couple of things that could do that |
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Dyrcona |
JBoyer: It even produces an XLSX workbook! |
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Dyrcona |
Heh. |
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Dyrcona |
It's on our RADAR to fix it, soonish. |
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Dyrcona |
I don't think it would be very difficult the required info is there. |
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jeff |
i tried, but once the vendor making the spec stated that they had no way to handle the spec and stated that they would prefer unformatted text, it was a bit of a losing battle / argument to spend more time on it, especially since i had nothing to then test with :P |
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Dyrcona |
Just a matter of do you prefer the 3M format or the Envisionware format. |
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* Dyrcona |
sympathizes. :) |
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Dyrcona |
OK. Back to acq... I think I'll peruse the fund transfer code to see what it looks like I need to do. |
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Dyrcona |
Anyway, good comments on acq.transfer_fund(). |
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Dyrcona |
So, it looks like the easiest thing would be to do what jihpringle suggested and just transfer the money back. |
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Dyrcona |
Awesome sauce! |
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Dyrcona |
I have a test db with a dump from last week loaded and I found a similar transfer from an inactive fund to an active one that I can try this out on. |
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rjackson_isl |
gotta love circs with due dates manually entered for beginning of 2016 and items getting marked Lost with max fines accrued the night of the circ :( |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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Dyrcona |
You just want to say, "So why tell me about it, then?" |
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Dyrcona |
'Nix guys..... ;) |
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Dyrcona |
Well, I'm heading home. TTYT! |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1651808: avoid a class of intermittent search failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f67b07b> |
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jeff |
i really shouldn't be thinking about the ability to merge copies. |
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csharp |
bug 1639782 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1639782 in Evergreen "Add Active Date to Item Status (F5) Columns" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639782 |
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csharp |
bug 1360347 |
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JBoyer |
That explains it. There are some TPAC functions that were translated (quant() -> cuant()) so all searches crash by default unless they return 0 results. :/ |
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kmlussier |
_bott_: What version of OpenSRF are you running? |
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_bott_ |
2.4.1 |
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JBoyer |
Wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing something specific to our test install. ( _bott_ running a heavily custom skin wouldn't see it) |
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kmlussier |
_bott_: OK, never mind. There is an issue with 2.5 OpenSRF alpha that causes problems with all imports. |
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Dyrcona |
kmlussier: Is that the chunking code? |
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kmlussier |
_bott_: Generally, when I see a problem with loading records at PO activation, it's because one of the loading options isn't checked off. You need to have something checked both for non-matching records and for records that match. |
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Dyrcona |
Thanks. That's what I thought. |
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Dyrcona |
Just wondered if there might be something else. |
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_bott_ |
Not seeing anything obvious. The call to purchase_order.assets.create just never happens. |
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bmills |
JBoyer: setting that up on the test server required changing cuant to quant, like you mentioned. but after that it seems to be working fine. The "cuant" bit I changed —> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=blob;f=build/i18n/po/tpac/es-ES.po#l97. had to change the various es-ES.po's in the locale folders to reflect that. i think i checked the logs since the search would cause a 500 error and realized it was anytime the |
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JBoyer |
bmills, yeah, that's what I'm seeing; I'll throw something up on LP if it's not there already. I've got another - much less stressful - translation bug to file also. (Cat: -> Gato: in the LSE...) |
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JBoyer |
bmills, Also, you got cut off at "realized it was anytime the" |
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bmills |
JBoyer: whoops! yeah, anytime the page was showing "x of x copies available" it bombed |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1117808 in Evergreen "Merge and Overlay Functions should use Merge Profiles" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1117808 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc) |
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jeff |
it's a pcap kind of day. |
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Bmagic |
Can the Evergreen reporting engine find marc records that lack a certain marc tag? |
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jeff |
i have abused the metabib schema in a way similar to what you describe, but i can't recall if i made it work within the reporter long ago. most recently, sql. |
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Dyrcona |
berick: I know what you mean about OpenJFX being finicky. I've been doing some tutorials and examples and some things don't quite work in OpenJDK, at least not on Ubuntu 16. |
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Dyrcona |
berick: Anything specific that stands in the way of using with Hatch? |
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berick |
Dyrcona: the only thing I had issues with was the javafx stuff. don't recall exactly what is was, though |
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Dyrcona |
berick: OK. I'll see if I can do some testing in the future. I've had issues with some cosmetic things, but I've not tried printing or anything like that. |
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berick |
thanks. i'll also make a point of testing openjdk and collecting more data |
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csharp |
oracle-- |
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csharp |
oracle-- |
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csharp |
oracle-- |
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csharp |
I remember testing openjdk and seeing the javafx problems, but I don't remember specifics |
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berick |
csharp: you'd think owning an island would be enough |
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csharp |
... but here is the chat log: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2015-06-10#i_181217 |
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csharp |
berick: seriously |
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* dbs |
does credential-splitting across browsers like phasefx and Dyrcona |
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Dyrcona |
It's just easier that way than changing users all the time. |
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Dyrcona |
Time to go! |
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Bmagic |
Can you put more than one email address in actor.usr.email_address? |
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Bmagic |
Just a wild guess, but I am thinking "no" is the answer |
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Dyrcona |
And none of the parent groups have any permissions assigned. |
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mmorgan |
If your users don't have secondary groups, then it's probably not your issue. |
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Dyrcona |
But we don't have more than 1 group assigned. |
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krvmga |
i just did the opposite test from the previous one: i logged in as myself on a client where the user wasn't seeing the library dropdown list; saw it as me; didn't see it as the other user. |
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Dyrcona |
krvmga: Thanks, again. ;) |
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krvmga |
same permission group; network administrator |
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mmorgan |
ok. It would be interesting to see what happens if you were to remove the extra permissions from the users seeing the problem. |
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tsbere: Turned out to be an org_unit was changed yesterday for testing. It was assigned an ou_type with the wrong depth when testing was done. |
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Dyrcona |
Why this did not break the list for everybody is beyond me. |
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tsbere |
Dyrcona: I assume it is in part due to work ous. How many of the people it was broken for were logged into or assigned their work OU at/below that org unit versus not at/below it? |
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Dyrcona |
That's a good question. krvmga changed his ous after I last looked. I'm pretty sure that I could work at this ou. I'll check where the others can/can't work. |
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jonadab |
StomproJ: I believe freenode has a web client. |
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I think I'm going to have to split this into two queries and put the results together in someway in the perl. |
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A rough guess is it's taking 15 seconds to process a record on my test db system. |
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miker |
Dyrcona: is your slow query stock, or a local thing? |
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Dyrcona |
miker: It's a local thing. |
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Dyrcona |
tsbere gave me a suggestion of how I might use a tsquery to speed it up. |
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bshum |
Failure? NOOOOO |
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bshum |
Jabber problem in the test :( |
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bshum |
At least the rest looks okay |
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* bshum |
wanders off to find his dinner |
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berick |
sounds like a self-help book... Find Your Dinner |
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berick |
@band add Your Inner Dinner |
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pinesol_green |
berick: Fire BAD! Reading GOOD! |
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Dyrcona |
I am assuming that it worked. :) |
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Dyrcona |
It must work, right? The default includes an entry for BR1. :) |
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jason___ |
I just ran all the "Starting Evergreen" stuff and got it to work, "testing connections" failed the first time, but worked after a reboot. Two questions: Do I need to manually start Evergreen after every boot with the default configuration? And can I now connect with a client app? |
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dbs |
Dyrcona: yup we have all kinds of Z39.50 targets in oils_z3950.xml, supporting the search of various individual branches and systems |
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Dyrcona |
dbs: Thanks! I was pretty sure it would work. |
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jason___ |
Dyrcona Got it, thank you |
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* kmlussier |
hits send on e-mail, cheers up because she can now get to community work she's been wanting to do, and then realizes that it's 5 p.m. and the working day has ended. |
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mmorgan |
kmlussier: At least you got that email sent! |
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berick |
the sun'll come up.. tomorrow |
