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Results for 2022-10-27

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09:18 Dyrcona miker: Since it would take a day pretty much to restore and "re-upgrade" the database, I'll stick with what I've got checked out. I'll see about pulling the top commits from your other branch.
09:57 Dyrcona miker: Everything is failing with the changes to metabib.reingest_metabib_field_entries. I'm going to back it out.
09:59 miker awesome. if you have more info than that, that'd be great. I'm not seeing everything fail...
09:59 miker thanks for testing, regardless
10:02 miker Dyrcona: that function has changes that depend on the deadlock branch, fwiw
10:03 Dyrcona Yeah, I have those. I did the DYM deadlock upgrade, too.
10:03 Dyrcona miker: Here's a PostgreSQL log entry, https://pastebin.com/SsECj4QB
10:13 Dyrcona I stopped the coordinator, replaced the function, and it seems to be working again.
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11:27 Dyrcona miker: By "replaced the function," I mean that I went back to the version from the base schema.
11:33 miker ah, ok. well, I confess that the error message in the log doesn't make much sense to me, it's complaining about a different table... but I'll see if I can sus out what's up there
11:34 Dyrcona I'll try the new implementation again tomorrow or next week. I'm also trying to test a load of records that say they're MARC8, but I have my suspicions.
11:35 Dyrcona I have some smaller batches that I'll use with the new implementation.
11:36 Dyrcona Yeah, I wasn't really sure about the error message, either. I've got a couple of thousand more if you want to extract another.
11:36 Dyrcona Something like 2,500 failed by the time that I noticed.
11:40 Dyrcona Let me make sure it does the new thing for the password.
11:41 Dyrcona It does! How about that!
11:41 * Dyrcona cranks up the Iron Maiden...
11:46 miker Dyrcona: so, I found the issue. the problem is in the details of PG's fkey checks. the cause is updating the id (which the named table points to as "entry"), even with the original value. we can replace sort_value, since it's the same and (basically) a key as well with the same effect and not bonk into that issue. I'm testing that change now (no explosions after 5min+), but it comes down to this if you want to use "\ef metabib.
11:46 miker reingest_metabib_field_entries" to adjust the new version in situ: https://pastebin.com/PKDrhfSX
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11:48 Dyrcona miker: Cool, I'll give that a shot after I play with my new SIP accounts.
11:48 miker +1
12:15 Dyrcona I suppose that I could just replace the function while it's running and see what happens.
12:39 Dyrcona miker++ I swapped ou the function definition and it's still working.
12:39 miker huzzah!
12:49 Dyrcona My SIP test is not going so well. I can't tell if I'm failing to log in or if my test script is just blowing up. I'm getting a socket error.
13:04 Dyrcona hmm. I get no response from server when I try to login with a newly created account, but pre-existing ones work. I even tried running actor.change_password() with the password that I'm using.
13:09 Dyrcona There's a bug, I think. I was trying to use the location to add a workstation for the new users. When I removed the location, it worked.
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14:13 Dyrcona The other 3 are also deadlocks.
15:29 Dyrcona So, I am now getting sharelock violations. That's it. I'll have to reload everything next week and start over with a clean upgrade to master, etc., to make sure I have everything, but I am pretty sure that everything is up to date.
15:37 jeffdavis Do we have a way to flag bugs that need discussion rather than testing for bug squashing week? There's a fix for bug 1863387 that I'd like to commit as-is, but it would be good to know if end users think it needs more work.
15:37 pinesol Launchpad bug 1863387 in Evergreen "Carousels: shelving location selector should limit initial set of choices" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1863387
15:37 Dyrcona jeffdavis: needsdiscussion tag.
15:40 jeffdavis oh, are needsdiscussion bugs already included in bug squashing? that would be great!
15:49 sleary I forgot about that tag
15:50 Dyrcona On the plus side, the ingest coordinator has stayed up and running.
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16:16 mmorgan jeffdavis: I am pretty sure the main focus of bug squashing week is bugs with pullrequests, terranm does a masterful job of organizing them on test servers with signoffs as a goal.
16:17 mmorgan But I would think BSW is a great opportunity to look at needsdiscussion bugs, too.
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18:57 pinesol News from commits: LP1952931 release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b33f11​70050401a0c6066452a09d391fd97a7cd2>
18:57 pinesol News from commits: LP1952931 stamp upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=25f23c​a394d5759f685f6b54933e9d0db18423cd>
18:57 pinesol News from commits: LP1952931 Support ACQ Advanced Shipment Notices (DESADV -- Dispatch Advice Messages) <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=eae6c7​e0eacc9ebf4bfd2014d9c6485a61de8a0c>
19:28 gmcharlt testing, then pusing fix to 1344
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19:38 sandbergja gmcharlt++
19:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1724032: add release note entry <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cad20​e67af7d630b18834313960e00414dd758e>
20:28 pinesol News from commits: LP1904036 Mark Damaged always handles checkin <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=55941c​65290a23c682746c230b96fff12d38efc4>
20:28 pinesol News from commits: LP1904036 Checkin grid routeTo visible by default <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bc6f2​816ba2124198c9763f0d17c9aac88b05c4>
20:44 * gmcharlt claims 1347
20:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1934162: stamp DB update <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=00d652​8742c31a7b04aa876e6e4a471fec8c6bfc>
20:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1934162: add release note <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ea534​594a176b72b404f12f8071faf870e96c8f>
20:57 pinesol News from commits: LP1934162: (follow-up) sync whitespace <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ec73f​a03414a59bd8516e571da6070b45e3b3ce>
20:57 pinesol News from commits: LP1934162: add pgtap test, refreshing upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a51d23​66a735903adf04cfe7a32af1565313b334>
20:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1934162: delete user messages and curbside notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d24c4d​be1e9b3b4dc924647c4c29082242b37622>
21:07 * gmcharlt claims 1348
21:16 * gmcharlt claims 1349
21:27 pinesol News from commits: LP#1982031: add release note <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=244f0c​732b9358e8c272364047e03f1b92406d06>

Results for 2022-10-26

00:21 pinesol News from commits: LP1411819 stamp upgrade script and add release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8da533​ecb4126fdaa6cd6386a4468fe11550e4da>
00:21 pinesol News from commits: LP1411819 follow-up: add a pgtap test <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd0a11​c18fbac315b81d04da359ba062d002d916>
00:21 pinesol News from commits: LP#1411819: org setting to override PATRON_EXCEEDS_FINES penalty on renewals <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=98ce2c​013c295509d530df40bed947279dc3b9f5>
00:51 pinesol News from commits: LP1953692: release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=18c15f​0957fdea5d1213ed137d80f879b9aa7ade>
00:51 pinesol News from commits: LP1953692 follow-up: missing character <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b9a7d​9bdf64144b8138025713575d9f79c61650>
00:51 pinesol News from commits: LP1953692 Angular Catalog Record Summary links should open in new tab <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=781f39​9afa75a6f9fae4ef164c797f1231821f22>
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09:57 mmorgan Asked this in the hackaway, but I'll try here, too.
09:57 mmorgan Trying to build a test vm using ansible and I'm getting this: "Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install:156: recipe for target 'ubuntu-bionic-developer' failed"
09:57 mmorgan What am I missing?
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10:03 Dyrcona miker: Getting different behavior with ingest_ctl today after the patch from yesterday. I'm loading the same records that I used last week after a database reload. Updating 378 records worked fine. Inserting 314 has produced 7 errors and after that, it seems to have really slowed down.
10:05 Dyrcona And, of course, after I mention it here, it picks back up again.
10:14 Dyrcona I have all of the patches from DYM and queued ingest.
10:17 Dyrcona The rest are all pretty much the same.
10:24 Dyrcona I processed 1 by hand and it worked. I update fail_time to null and the rest of them worked in parallel.
10:28 JBoyer mmorgan, regardless of the specific error you'll want to update your testing VM to a later version of Ubuntu; building Evergreen on Bionic from a fresh git checkout is likely to start failing within days.
10:28 JBoyer see lp 1990969
10:28 pinesol Launchpad bug 1990969 in Evergreen "Discontinue Support for Ubuntu 18.04 "Bionic Beaver"" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990969
10:29 JBoyer OR, if you're running a later version of Ubuntu on your VM it's entirely possible that some package name has changed since bionic and that's what's failing.
11:59 Dyrcona miker: I noticed two entries for the same author name back to back, so there's some evidence of that.
12:02 mmorgan Bmagic: Right. Will look at that when I find some time.
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12:23 miker Dyrcona: https://pastebin.com/csTYASPu is what I'm proposing. commit coming in a moment
12:45 miker Dyrcona: 2 new commits on the QI branch now, though just the first is strictly required for the browse ingest conflict. the second is about a long-standing oversight that removes too much data in a "just update this one field" reingest request
12:47 miker (IOW, you may want to pick and test just the first new commit, but I think the second is needed generally)
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12:59 Dyrcona miker: I'll try them both in a bit.

Results for 2022-10-25

10:02 miker Dyrcona: AFAICT, the QI coordinator is always dying when trying to gather orphaned entries.  is that right?
10:02 miker that's based on the log snippets
10:02 Dyrcona Yes.
10:03 Dyrcona BTW, I've dropped that database and I'm testing something else at the moment. I could reload it.
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11:31 miker Dyrcona: if/when you get back to QI, there's a small change on the current branch that should at least let us get past the "can't use undef as ARRAY ref" death.
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11:44 miker grabbing upgrade stamps 1340 and 1341
11:45 Dyrcona All right. I'll stop what I'm doing and reload the database that I was using to test queued ingest. I can rerun my tests on a different database.
11:49 Dyrcona Well, crap. I can't reload it from the dump. Pg version mismatches, etc.
11:49 Dyrcona I'll have to do it differently and rerun the db upgrade scripts.
11:56 Dyrcona I probably won't be able to do anything with it until tomorrow. I'd really like for someone else to look at queued ingest.

Results for 2022-10-21

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10:22 csharp_ Dyrcona: are you targeting PG 14 in your testing?  looking at moving past PG 11 since we're back in the same boat soon
10:22 csharp_ (on PG 10 now, just looking at an upgrade target)
10:23 Dyrcona If you're referring to queued ingest, I've only been testing it on Pg 10.
10:23 csharp_ upgrading my staging server and thinking about what version to move towards
10:23 csharp_ no, just generally
10:23 Dyrcona Pg 14 should work.
10:24 csharp_ ok - I'll give it a go
10:24 Dyrcona I've done light testing on Pg 11 - 13. I use Pg 14 on all of my local VMs where I run concerto. (By local I mean on my laptop.)
10:24 Dyrcona I might have 1 or 2 older ones (bionic, maybe?) on Pg 10.
10:25 Dyrcona Does anyone know how to get of screen prompting for a password? I tried closing  a window using Ctrl-a x because Ctrl-b x closes a window in tmux. Didn't remember is was the lock command and screen just keeps asking for a password.
10:26 Dyrcona None of the Ctrl-a commands work with the password prompt.

Results for 2022-10-19

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09:15 Dyrcona miker: Well, ingest_ctl survived the other 157, 000 records yesterday with nothing much going on. I'm deleting a few more URIs and then going to load some as another test.
09:16 * mmorgan added an additional commit to abneiman, jweston and jihpringle's release notes: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/u​ser/mmorgan/docs-releasenotes-2022-10-18
09:19 Dyrcona mmorgan++
09:20 miker Dyrcona: that's good news
10:05 Dyrcona Checking the database real quick looks like it actually worked for at least one of the failed records when I processed it manually.
10:06 * Dyrcona keeps looking.
10:12 Dyrcona My 502 is probably because I'm running an out of date Apache configuration.
10:50 Dyrcona OK. Another batch of about 28,000 records to use for a stress test.
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10:55 Dyrcona Ugh. Forced to use screen because tmux is not installed....
10:56 stephengwills morning.  if I RAISE some text in a postgresql function should I see that message in postgresql-10-main.log?  or does it channel it somehwere else?

Results for 2022-10-18

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09:39 abneiman docs branch here, if I did things right --> https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/​Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/use​r/abneiman/docs-releasenotes-2022-10-18
09:40 abneiman jihpringle++ jweston++ for their work & assistance!
09:40 miker Dyrcona: thanks for throwing QI at a "real" test task
09:40 mmorgan abneiman++
09:41 mmorgan jihpringle++
09:41 mmorgan jweston++

Results for 2022-10-17

14:04 Dyrcona I'm going to work on Pg 15 during the hack-a-way if it happens.
14:17 berick pg10 here
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15:45 csharp_ trying to test bug 1898775 - how do I enable the traditional catalog?  I've set the Library Setting  GUI: Enable Traditional Staff Catalog  to True for CONS but not seeing a difference
15:45 pinesol Launchpad bug 1898775 in Evergreen "Bootstrap OPAC: Add to bucket broken" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898775
15:48 mmorgan csharp_: You need to change /etc/apache2/eg_vhost.conf Look for this line:
15:48 mmorgan PerlAddVar OILSWebTemplatePath "@localstatedir@/templates-bootstrap" # Comment this line out to use the legacy TPAC
16:10 csharp_ jeez, we're supporting too many things, huh?
16:11 csharp_ mmorgan++ # was able to trigger the bug
16:11 mmorgan csharp_++
16:11 jihpringle csharp_ I see it in the menu on our test server when I set the setting to True - but I have to log out and back if before it appears
16:11 csharp_ jihpringle: ah
16:14 csharp_ fix works!
16:14 Dyrcona #worksforme
16:38 Dyrcona Right... Processes that change their name after they start....
16:41 Dyrcona Wow!
16:42 Dyrcona The updates immediately started going "faster."
16:44 Dyrcona Testing two things at the same time. :)
16:46 mmorgan Dyrcona: What else are you testing?
16:46 Dyrcona Seems to be working. Some of the records have been ingested. Others haven't been ingested, yet.
16:47 Dyrcona I was just making sure that a script to remove URIs for a vendor by library is still working.
16:47 Dyrcona No failures, either.
16:48 mmorgan Sounds promising!
16:48 Dyrcona One of our members wants to refresh their Ebrary records.
16:48 Dyrcona Yeahp.
16:48 Dyrcona I was sitting here with that process going and thinking how can I test queued ingest, and well, it worked out perferctly.
16:49 Dyrcona Well, better than my spelling anyway. :)
16:50 mmorgan Dyrcona++
16:51 Dyrcona miker++

Results for 2022-10-12

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10:08 csharp_ seeing an issue with npm run test - looks like bca84f2fce0d might be responsible
10:08 csharp_ pinesol: ahem
10:08 pinesol csharp_: Message root @ server God....Universe going down for reboot....
10:08 csharp_ oh, right, that plugin was borked by an upgrade
10:08 csharp_ python 2 -> 3
10:13 csharp_ heh
10:13 csharp_ ok, that's an easy fix - I'll bug it
10:20 csharp_ bug 1992657
10:20 pinesol Launchpad bug 1992657 in Evergreen "Recent commit breaking Angular npm tests" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992657
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18:37 pinesol News from commits: lp1992657 - fix broken NPM test <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5f592​48d1b4a2b53b87c2dbad203137a6e36f4b>
19:07 pinesol News from commits: LP1991344 rxjs empty() function deprecated <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a6779​06cc200db4c6f8f0fa5a326334d5da4a72>

Results for 2022-10-11

15:20 gmcharlt for obvious reasons, I'm kinda hoping that it does turn into "let's try Angular 14 for the back branches"
15:20 gmcharlt er, does *not*
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15:21 sandbergja I could throw together a branch with npm audit --fix, but it would be nice to have some help testing the results
15:22 gmcharlt happy to help (and I am actually pretty concerned about the potential for breakage)
15:22 berick sandbergja: is your focus at the moment just on angjs?
15:23 gmcharlt but I may be unduly distrustful of the state of backwards compatibiliy in the NPM ecosystem
15:24 sandbergja I definitely share the concerns about regressions...
15:24 Dyrcona I've run npm update in the past without ill effects, but not sure if that does what's needed. I've also not done it in a while.
15:24 gmcharlt sandbergja: certain a gold star to any of use who figures out that we can _remove_ dependencies during the process :)
15:24 sandbergja If you'll allow me a soapbox for a minute, it sure would be nice if we had more test coverage, so we could just run any automated dependabot PRs against the test suite and get a quick yes/no
15:25 sandbergja about whether it introduces regressions
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15:27 JBoyer sandbergja++ gmcharlt++
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15:28 JBoyer csharp_++
15:28 gmcharlt just wanted to mention something that had come up in a meeting with a few of you recently - if we step back a bit... we've done a LOT towards migrating to Angular
15:28 gmcharlt so I do think that warrants an IRC collective back-patting
15:28 csharp_ sandbergja: I'll do some experimentation and will test your branch if you push one
15:29 shulabear sandbergja++
15:29 sandbergja angular++
15:29 terranm backpatting++
16:13 * Dyrcona is considering taking over SpamAssassing on FreeBSD. It's currently looking for a maintainer.
16:13 Dyrcona It's late in the day, and my typing skills are on the fritz....
16:15 Dyrcona Autotools doesn't really cover installing HTML files for a website, beyond maybe using localstatedir. I s'pose inventing a new option is not out of the question, but....
16:15 mrtnnbr anyway, it looks like there's some interest/curiosity here, so how about I finish configuring my test system and put it online for review. I'll send a a link to -dev
16:17 Dyrcona OK. I'd like git branches, too. :)
16:28 mrtnnbr Dyrcona: A quick survey of existing ports shows somewhat even usage of --htmldir, --datadir, and --datarootdir. one of the latter two might be reasonable.
16:30 Dyrcona Yeah. We have an option to not install the web files, but not one for where.

Results for 2022-10-07

10:51 Dyrcona Hey. That reliable Pinebook/Manjaro ARM system freeze after a kernel update strikes again. I thought I might've avoided it by rebooting again after installing updates, but no.
11:20 Bmagic bummer
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11:35 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I think I just figured out another way to do that thing I was testing with the gitadmin emails yesterday, but it will still flag my own messages as spam. :)
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Results for 2022-10-05

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12:08 mantis1 Testing the cover image uploader in 3.9.  I'm getting error messages whenever I upload via Brave/Chromium or Firefox.  A link produces in console, but when opening nothing happens.  Also after restarting Firefox, the image will show up.
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12:11 rhamby there is a follow up patch for that I believe
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Results for 2022-10-04

11:11 csharp_ the templates themselves are just text - by default it's plain text, but there are ways to use the header to send HTML (not done that myself, but it should be possible)
11:21 javier_guel I mean marks, we are on México and we want to use for example the word:  Tí­tulo
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11:26 collum I just copied and pasted á to the end of the text for our test email trigger, and it worked.  The email I received had the diacritic.  But I had to paste it into the template. Keyboard shortcuts didn't work.
11:39 javier_guel we already tried that, but we are receiving emails with words like this Título instead of Título, Is there any other place to check coding?
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11:44 JBoyer It’s possible that how you initially type them may matter. Some extended ASCII characters may not correctly survive the trip to UTF-8 even if they look right on your screen. I’m not sure if Charmap can help with things like Unicode combining characters and the like.

Results for 2022-10-03

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13:45 mantis1 Doing some 3.9 testing.  Can anyone explain the Org selector now supports entry styling a bit further than what's in the release notes?
13:45 mantis1 "The Org Selector now supports the ability to pass in an object composed of an array of Org Unit IDs and a function returning a CSS key value pair."
13:49 jeff more information may be in bug 1739277
13:49 pinesol Launchpad bug 1739277 in Evergreen 3.8 "web client: holdings view owning libraries not marked in drop down menu" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1739277
13:50 jeff commit d51454b and commit 625c862 have an example and the first (only?) implementation
13:55 jeff and i guess in actuality, the function just returns a string that's interpreted as a css class name.
13:56 jeff so, the "CSS key value pair" in the release notes seems off, or I'm looking at the wrong feature/code. :-)
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14:11 tlittle I updated my test server now that the Acq purchase order work is in master, and when opening PO's I get this console error: "open-ils.acq.lineitem.retrieve.batch failed! stat=404 msg=Method [open-ils.acq.lineitem.retrieve.batch] not found for OpenILS::Application::Acq". I can see that API/method is in Lineitem.pm, so why would it be telling me it
14:11 tlittle can't see it? I don't know if this is just something I've done incorrectly or if there's something actually missing. I never saw this message on the EOLI test server, so idk what's up
14:14 Dyrcona tlittle: You did a "make install"?
14:17 tlittle Yes, I think so. I have a script that csharp_made for Terran and I so that probably obfuscates troubleshooting a bit, but it looks like that's what it did
14:18 Dyrcona Did the script or you stop and restart services?

Results for 2022-09-30

14:47 Dyrcona I don't recall what my first album on CD was, but I definitely got Dark Side of the Moon before The Wall.
14:49 csharp_ Dark Side of the Moon followed quickly
14:54 Dyrcona Matter of fact, it's all dark....
14:55 Dyrcona I should probably have edited a commit message, too. I could have fixed a typo and/or removed the paragraph about tests failing... I should maybe look at that qatester bug that I removed myself from, but I though JBoyer was going to have a look.
14:56 * Dyrcona has some things on Lp that he should get in digital format.
14:56 Dyrcona Hah... Lp Lauchpad. LP long playing disc. :)
14:56 JBoyer Well, that bug depends on the state of the "remove Stretch" bug; 2/3 of the changes are Stretch-only
15:34 Dyrcona I think they finally found Part I.
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15:53 Stompro Ah Shoot, missed feedback fest... I need to put them on my calendar.
15:53 terranm There are still plenty of things loaded that can be tested :D
15:55 Stompro terranm, I'm checking out the list now.
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16:41 JBoyer I spoke too soon about figuring out that SSO BPAC integration. My initial plan was a bust, but I

Results for 2022-09-28

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08:40 mmorgan Bmagic: Sorry, had to run yesterday. My colleague was trying to test bug 1940105, and needed to add a shelving location when associating an item with a course. We'll try testing on a local server.
08:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1940105 in Evergreen 3.8 "Course archiving and deleting functions should use open-ils.courses.detach_material" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1940105
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Results for 2022-09-27

17:01 Bmagic mmorgan: I don't show that I merged that one on my server
17:01 Bmagic Is it on the spreadsheet that I did?
17:02 Bmagic oh, it's on master, bugsquash's base was 3.9
17:03 Bmagic does that mess up the testing?
17:03 mmorgan Bmagic: It's in master. https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=​commit;h=fc0ce105a7baeee24fc0106396b5cedefff48b7a
17:11 * mmorgan needs to run. G'night #evergreen!
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Results for 2022-09-26

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09:00 terranm Good morning Feedback Festers, the list of test servers that are up and running is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r0RyFB_​Sj1RHdVacylCNBt-YS3S7VlXguWYWMqk40so/edit#gid=0
09:01 terranm The 3.10 Release Team would like to encourage developers to take a look at the LP tickets with the bootstrapblocker and staffcatalog blocker tags so that we can get closer to deprecating the old OPAC and embedded staff catalog.
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09:24 mmorgan terranm++
09:40 pinesol News from commits: LP#1939730 - Use original call number owning_lib when reverting items <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae074b​b92d1c448d3bd6d444256783a73fd7b630>

Results for 2022-09-23

11:22 * csharp_ weeps a single tear thinking about placing third in the fourth grade spelling bee
11:23 Dyrcona Well, that's interesting: -bash vi: command not found # Tramp mode to the rescue!
11:24 Dyrcona csharp_++
11:32 jeff csharp_: oh, I didn't actually notice your typo... but now that you pointed it out, that's probably why my brain went where it did.
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11:56 jeff Drat. It was not the template.
11:57 jeff test prints with this printer print okay. multiple templates have "extra space" at the bottom.
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13:45 jeff Ah. It was both!
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19:37 jeffdavis the unapi.bre db function has suddenly become very slow, but only for one specific bib record (AFAIK) - it takes ~30s for the bad record, but <1s for others that I've tried
19:38 jeffdavis can't find anything weird about the bad record, and the sudden slowness wasn't triggered by edits to it or holdings changes or anything AFAICT
21:03 jeff do you have data that suggests that this particular record was taking less time before now?
21:09 jeff and it sounds like you've narrowed it down to the db function call itself? are you calling it directly from psql as a test?

Results for 2022-09-19

16:01 jeffdavis nginx error log says "upstream prematurely closed connection while reading response header from upstream"
16:19 jeffdavis apache error log says "AH00051: child pid 2699619 exit signal Segmentation fault (11), possible coredump in /etc/apache2"
16:20 Dyrcona Time to get cozy with gdb.... :)
16:30 jeffdavis Hope it doesn't come to that. I've seen similar errors testing Shibboleth in the past (the 502 at least, not sure about the segfault), fingers crossed that there are simply even more issues with Ubuntu's out-of-the-box shib config than there were last time.
16:34 Dyrcona Ubuntu 20.04?
16:34 Dyrcona Or 22.04?
16:35 Dyrcona I ask because of the 7-digit PID.

Results for 2022-09-15

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10:14 Dyrcona Anyone ever passed an array to a psql query using placeholders?
10:17 Dyrcona Well, I just did, and looks like the "obvious" thing works: psql -U evergreen -h localhost -p 35433 -f lookup2.sql -v expire=2020-09-01 -v orgs="{45,51}"
10:19 csharp_ miker: the Shibboleth development came after OA stuff was in place here, so we never tested it against it
10:32 jmurray-isl practice.evergreen.lib.in.us
10:33 jmurray-isl Oops. Wrong window.
10:39 JBoyer Dyrcona, I'd expect that to work, depending on how the variable is referenced in the sql (:var vs :'var' or :"var", I don't recall which you need for arrays. :) )

Results for 2022-09-13

15:03 JBoyer #topic Action Items from Last Meeting
15:03 JBoyer #info Dyrcona will take a look at LP 1979357
15:03 pinesol Launchpad bug 1979357 in Evergreen "fixes for qatester failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1979357 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
15:03 JBoyer I should probably have signed off on that already, I've already tested and verified most of it anyway.
15:04 jeffdavis just as long as some Jason looks at it
15:04 Dyrcona I have not had time to really look at it, so maybe I should remove myself from the bug?
15:04 JBoyer Dyrcona, do you have time to investigate or should I grab that one
15:22 gmcharlt the two biggest pieces I'm aware that are pending are the Angular patron/circ app and the Angular acquisitions blob
15:22 gmcharlt (yes, that's right, Acquisitions Blob is the new official title)
15:22 mmorgan :)
15:23 gmcharlt I'm curious (terranm? berick?) how testing of the patron/circ app is going
15:23 terranm There were a lot of small issues found during BSW that were tracked on a big ole spreadsheet. I'm not sure if any of those have been addressed yet.
15:23 gmcharlt (and where I'm leading up to is the question about whether Angular patron/circ is a 3.10 thing, 3.10 "experimental" thing, or a 3.11 thing)
15:24 gmcharlt (I'm partial, but I'm feeling generally pretty comfortable about Angular Acq Blob being suitable for 3.10)
15:26 gmcharlt sandbergja: yeah, I recall there was a discussion a few meetings back
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15:27 gmcharlt FWIW, I'm in the camp that some sort of overlap period is going to be a necessary evil, but I have significant concerns if such a period is allowed to go on too long
15:29 mrussell I think it would be best if we had an overlap period so that people can test functionality/ workflow and give feedback on what features work best
15:29 JBoyer I wonder how many of us are reading the last meeting's notes... :D
15:30 gmcharlt so to spin a tale: maor testing in 3.10, possibly a non-default alt mode available in 3.10 (although I think I remember from berick that he doesn't think it would be easy to do that/)
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15:30 gmcharlt 3.11 - fully relased; new interface is default but can switch back as needed
15:30 gmcharlt 3.12 - new interface only, the old one is actively removed
15:31 gmcharlt (and I acknowledge that that is probably an  aggressive timeline)
15:31 terranm I seem to recall him saying that the code could be in there so that certain new elements could be available to other interfaces without the new patron interfaces being visible
15:31 Bmagic That sounds pretty good to me
15:31 JBoyer The first step proposed last time was non-ui stuff first since so many components have been updated, that could be 3.10 even if the alt-mode isn't available yet

Results for 2022-09-09

12:57 * csharp_ realizes that FF = FulfILLment and not firefox :-)
12:58 csharp_ lots of raised eyebrows before that
12:59 Dyrcona :)
13:00 stephengwills <— sticking with Chrome today…. I’ll test it all with FFox once I understand my EGBorrow, EGLend and FFill. ** THUD! **
13:11 Dyrcona hmmm... WAL files sticking around since yesterday afternoon...
13:30 jvwoolf csharp_++
13:46 Dyrcona So, I blame pingest for the backup in WAL deletion. I still have some from yesterday c. 3:20 PM EDT hanging around, but they do seem to be disappearing slowly.

Results for 2022-09-08

11:42 csharp_ oof
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12:29 mantis2 is there a link for a 3.9 self-check interface on any of the community test servers or should make an account and access it through there?
12:31 berick mantis2: https://demo.evergreencatalo​g.com/eg/circ/selfcheck/main
12:31 mantis2 berick++
12:31 berick https://demo.evergreencatalo​g.com/eg2/en-US/staff/about -- says it's 3.9

Results for 2022-09-02

13:23 kmlussier I need to head out, but thanks everyone for listening to me vent. If I have time this weekend, maybe I'll do the legwork of going through the Wayback machine in the hopes that somebody with power can address this.
13:23 kmlussier Have a good weekend!
13:24 Bmagic you too!
14:12 JBoyer Dyrcona, an FYI for you since I know we're both interested, I was testing NCIPServer on Buster and Bullseye and things seem fine without the patch from lp 1732485 . Have you tested things on Ubuntu 20.04+
14:12 JBoyer ?
14:12 pinesol Launchpad bug 1732485 in NCIPServer "Crash with mime type application/xml on recent distros" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1732485
14:14 JBoyer (granted, I'm mostly throwing LookupUser requests at it with curl, but things work with and without the Content-Type: application/xml header.
14:15 Dyrcona JBoyer: I don't think I have tested NCIP on Ubuntu 20.04+. I know that I have not tested it on Ubuntu 22.04.
14:16 JBoyer Possibly good news then, though i guess if you're not going to be managing the hosting it's not such a big deal locally. :)
14:19 Dyrcona Well, I should try it anyway.
14:21 Dyrcona Not today, though...
14:21 JBoyer Dyrcona++
14:22 JBoyer And yeah, just wanted to make sure you knew it was worth checking out whenever there's free time.
14:24 Dyrcona JBoyer++
14:24 Dyrcona I may have tested it on 20.04 and don't remember doing it.
14:51 Dyrcona hmmm... Looks like we can lose a modification to the IDL. Either it was fixed or our change was unnecessary to begin with. I should try to figure out if we're using the field we added in any reports.
14:59 Dyrcona Wudnchanoit.... 3 templates use our "junk" field.
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Results for 2022-09-01

10:27 Dyrcona And, I always force the record encoding to UTF-8 via options.
10:28 Dyrcona There are also no differences in how they handle the encoding option input or output.
10:28 Dyrcona There's something weird going on with one set of records, and I'll modify my generic preprocessor to use utf8 on the output.
10:29 Dyrcona I'll have to test if that breaks other record loads, and if so, add an exception for Kanopy.....
10:29 Dyrcona Y'know. I may just add the exception for Kanopy anyway....
10:31 Dyrcona It's ugly, but it's Perl.
10:34 Dyrcona I did plan on using a shell wrapper around the generic script for the Overdrive records, but that got put on hold because of other things.

Results for 2022-08-31

14:16 jeff Budget season approaches!
14:17 jeff AWS has a number of ARM-based instance types.
14:18 jeff ...and GCP has some in preview / pre-GA
14:18 mixo I tried now add workstation in windows and it was succesfull
14:19 mixo and I have one question, thank you for help
14:19 mixo WARNING Error parsing JSON message on STDIN org.json.JSONException: A JSONObject text must begin with '{' at 3 [character 1 line 2] :
14:20 mixo this appears during hatch test
14:20 mixo is this problem?
14:20 Dyrcona jeff: I imagine that ARM would as well as x86.
14:21 Dyrcona ...would work as well as x86.
14:26 Dyrcona mixo: I don't have any experience with Hatch. Maybe someone else knows?

Results for 2022-08-19

12:03 jeff one log message that could help looks like this:
12:03 jeff $logger->info("updating pickup lib for hold ".$hold->id." while on holds shelf");
12:04 jvwoolf jeff++
12:08 jeff I believe the "Wrong Shelf" hold status is designed to be noticed if staff are viewing the hold shelf in the staff client, especially the "show clearable holds" part. In our environment, we'd likely use a report for that, similar to how we report on cancelled holds on shelf.
12:11 jeff I'm not sure without some more digging/testing how the hold would behave, but I think everything would stop regarding that hold and copy until the copy was checked in, at which point it would go in transit to the new pickup_lib.
12:13 jvwoolf I think I figured out what might be going on
12:13 jvwoolf Someone is trying to filter the pull list by pickup library, but they're changing the pickup library for the holds on the list instead
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Results for 2022-08-15

14:53 Dyrcona @loves
14:53 pinesol Dyrcona loves git; sed; OpenBSD; gnu/emacs; git-quickpick; tmux; and #evergreen
14:55 jeff @hates csharp
14:55 pinesol csharp hates dojo_hold_policies_interface; SIP; when libraries purchase third party products without testing and blame Evergreen for it not working; reports; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa; evil; reports more; reports even moar; details; reports even more; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out when applying an (2 more messages)
14:55 jeff @more
14:55 pinesol jeff: Aggregate Filter and vice versa even more; having to teach SIP2 client vendors about the SIP2 specification; troubleshooting reports; money reports; marc; reports even more than before; the EDI ruby bits; acquisitions; <quote>fun<unquote>; edi; sip2; sip too; sip two; acq; acq more; acq way more than before; omg I hate acq; omg I love acq; hate hate hate; comcast; action_triggers; javascript; (1 more message)
14:55 jeff @more

Results for 2022-08-12

10:21 csharp_ holy crazznap: Execution time: 127095178.213 ms
10:22 csharp_ 35.3041666667 hours (thanks to DuckDuckGo)
10:25 Dyrcona That's what happens when you do a Cartesian product of two very large tables, provided you don't run out of memory first.
10:26 Dyrcona Which reminds me...I've got something running on a test vm that I should check. It's probably finished by now.
10:27 Dyrcona I used time on it: 2719m34.212s
10:33 Dyrcona 45 hours 19 minutes.
10:37 Dyrcona PostgreSQL and kernel updates.....
10:42 Dyrcona Pg 15 release planned "in the third quarter of 2022." I can't find anything more specific than that, though Beta 3 was just released.
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11:54 Dyrcona Well, no errors in the test record load since I fixed the encoding in the Perl code.
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Results for 2022-08-10

10:14 berick miker: k, yeah, i figure there's some indexes, etc. we could add.  as a data point, my last attempt timed out out after 6 hours.
10:14 berick it was barebones
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10:21 csharp_ I'm backporting it here to my 3.8 test server just to play around
10:25 miker berick: well, barebones is ... relative, if you look at the source query. "less filters" doesn't necessarily mean "less work for PG"
10:26 berick this one was count of circs per month in 2018
10:38 miker I'd suggest SR might be the wrong tool for that particular report ;) ... and that's only about 1/4 snarky -- the example a trivial template to create and share in the normal reporter, and SR is meant to make Hard(tm) things (arguably some impossible things, for normal folks in the normal reporter) simple(r), not all things one-click easy AND fast.  It trades internal complexity for external simplicity.
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15:31 mmorgan FIFO question. If a library has FIFO set as best-hold selection sort order, shouldn't the item be captured for the hold with the highest priority, no matter the pickup location?
15:32 mmorgan I'm finding that a local hold is captured when there are higher priority holds for pickup elsewhere.
15:33 mmorgan We don't use FIFO, just testing for a particular situation.
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Results for 2022-08-09

14:34 JBoyer Thoughts on punting until September?
14:35 mmorgan +1 from me (since my question was answered) :)
14:36 * mmorgan may get pulled away anyway
14:40 Dyrcona +1 to punting until September. I may actually get to look at test setup by the next meeting.
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Results for 2022-08-05

10:16 Dyrcona I'm going to try and solve my record issue by rewriting the prep script in Python using PyMarc and chardet to autodetect the character set of each record. I wonder what chardet will say about MARC-8 records? Maybe, it will call them ISO 2022?
10:23 Dyrcona Maybe I can keep most of the Perl code and just throw the XML at a character set detection program?
10:30 Dyrcona Running chardet on the input files says, "utf-8 with confidence 0.99."
10:30 * Dyrcona sighs. Guess I'll just jam the bad records in, like my current test is doing.
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11:29 Dyrcona I wonder if $raw =~ s/\xC2/.../g; works on UTF-8 files that might have \xC2A9 and other multibyte sequences....
11:32 Dyrcona I suppose that I could test it.
11:53 Dyrcona Weird, 0xC2A doesn't give me they copyright symbol. Let me try it reversed for little endian.
11:54 Dyrcona Funny, too, how 0xC2 only prints "correctly" when other unicode sequences are in the string. Otherwise it prints as an unknown character glyph.
12:26 Dyrcona Unicode in Perl is a pain.

Results for 2022-08-02

11:21 Dyrcona berick foun the missing step... :)
11:21 Dyrcona found, even..
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11:38 mmorgan berick++
11:38 mmorgan Thanks!
11:38 * mmorgan now moves on to 4. profit and 5. invest wisely :)
11:45 * mmorgan has been trying all morning to test a checkin of an item in a certain shelving location with a particular variety of item alerts.
11:46 mmorgan It has been an adventure just setting up the scenario :-/
11:55 csharp_ has anyone developed/found any tools that would be useful in de-duping authority records?
11:56 csharp_ mmorgan: don't you wish some of the end users who are always mad that something "isn't fixed" could watch what we do sometimes? :-)
12:01 mmorgan csharp_: Actually, I feel for them! This library is trying to use the shelving location attribute Hold capture delay and it's not working with item alerts. Evergreen just seems to "forget" that it's in the middle of a checkin.
12:03 mmorgan Our test system is on 3.8.1 and I ran across a couple of item alert bugs that are fixed - in 3.8.2
12:04 mmorgan rabbit-holes--
12:07 jihpringle mmorgan: that sounds very similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1735221
12:07 pinesol Launchpad bug 1735221 in Evergreen "webclient: items with copy alert and hold verify fail to capture for hold" [Low,Confirmed]
12:08 mmorgan jihpringle++
12:08 mmorgan Aha! Didn't find that and it's exactly the issue!
12:10 mmorgan And it's not a new issue either.
12:11 jihpringle ya, we've been running into that one since we switched to the web client
12:12 jihpringle it's on my list to test in 3.9 and possibly in the angualr circ (if that server is still up this week)
12:14 mmorgan Definitely still an issue in 3.8!
12:18 mmorgan Our library is trying to use hold capture delay for hotspots, I think they need to check or reset them before they can go out again. I suggested they use the hold capture delay, not knowing there was a bug :-(
12:21 jihpringle they could use the Suppress Holds and Transits check in modifier (not as good since staff have to remember to use it) but could work for now
12:25 mmorgan jihpringle: Thanks, I will suggest that option. Just commented on the bug.
12:27 jihpringle just tested it in the new angular circ and it's still an issue there
12:27 jihpringle I'll update the bug and the circ spreadsheet
12:45 Dyrcona I didn't look very hard, but it appears to me that hold verify is just gonna break checkin no matter what. The location having hold_verify set does a bail on events, and do checkin returns if there is a bail on events right after that check is made. However, I didn't look much farther than that and circulation code is tricky.
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13:11 * Dyrcona wonders if it is time to have the community git discussion again. We're looking at possibly making some changes here because of things going on, and  it would be useful if we could link what we're doing with the community.

Results for 2022-07-29

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09:29 abneiman @later tell smorrison I'm sorry I missed your message about test servers, but I'm glad it was sorted - quassel is sketch for me with notifications; I'm more likely to see emial faster - abneiman@equinoxOLI.org
09:29 pinesol abneiman: The operation succeeded.
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Results for 2022-07-28

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09:29 terranm berick: For the Angular circ/patron interface testing, do you want me to copy over all the findings onto the LP ticket, or would it be easier for you to go off of the testing spreadsheet at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PL04fcj​om0l2xuum_Do-w04asn-ifAEHwuBY6yWIESQ/edit#gid=0 ?
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09:55 csharp_ berick: I was testing https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1970667 and saw a very long delay when installing ejabberd while running the OpenSRF Makefile.install - this is on a stock 22.04 machine - did you see simlar?
09:55 pinesol Launchpad bug 1970667 in OpenSRF "Add Installation Support for Ubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish" [Undecided,New]
09:57 csharp_ Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user​.target.wants/ejabberd.service → /lib/systemd/system/ejabberd.service.
09:57 csharp_ ... <several minutes delay> ...
12:53 csharp_ @decide git blame or git blam?
12:53 pinesol csharp_: go with git blame
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16:19 terranm You guys... we're actually running out of pullrequests to test! (Well, ones that end users can test anyway.)
16:25 mmorgan Wow! That's great!
16:25 mmorgan terranm++
16:28 JBoyer I won't be around tomorrow so pattypan and festivus are pretty much The Way They're Going To Be, but there are some good things to check out on both! Also that Hatch patch; you can test that against any server, not necessarily a testing one!
16:28 JBoyer and yeah, terranm++ Great work, it's much appreciated.
16:30 terranm JBoyer++ The multiple server refreshes definitely kept things moving this week!
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Results for 2022-07-27

15:17 pinesol Launchpad bug 1978889 in Evergreen 3.8 "Item alert types not displaying with alert" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1978889
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15:22 berick terranm: yes
15:23 terranm Okay, I think I missed including that line on my test server since it had a different LP number. Trying to apply it now...
15:23 berick ah, k
15:43 terranm Hrrm, I don't see Galen's changes to Open-ILS/src/eg2/src/app/staff/share/hol​dings/copy-alerts-dialog.component.html in your commit
15:43 csharp_ looks like https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cc9c27​b8647b39c44a1270b74b65bbe1a044739a was missed in the signoff/add'l branch

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