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09:29 Dyrcona Ooh. Asking LibreOffice to open a 31MB CSV might be a mistake.
09:34 Dyrcona It survived, and deleting a big text column knocked the size down to 3 MB.
09:36 Dyrcona That makes it sound like a single cell was 32MB. I dropped the error message column, 'cause they're all the same error with different details.
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11:27 pinesol News from commits: LP2044004 Button styles for holdings view locations <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=820412​0228da356c5177297d3cc694875697b3ed>
11:27 pinesol News from commits: LP#2044848 Hopeless Holds administration date range inputs have extra gray box <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b51a03​625611520dcd9f6df00bbabb0bf9406881>
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11:35 kmlussier Happy first day of December #evergreen!
11:35 kmlussier @dessert [someone]
11:35 * pinesol grabs some candy from krvmga's desk for pinesol
11:36 kmlussier Oh, wow. That brings back memories. krvmga always had candy at his desk.
11:37 mmorgan :)
11:40 mmorgan Maybe it's just me, but it seems like pinesol ends up getting a large percentage of the desserts.
11:41 kmlussier mmorgan: Or eglogbot.
11:41 kmlussier pinesol: Why do you give dessert to all the bots?
11:41 pinesol kmlussier: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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11:54 Dyrcona @dessert kmlussier
11:54 * pinesol grabs some of yboston's cheese flan for kmlussier
11:54 jeff indeed, welcome to december. how in the world did we get here so quickly?
11:55 Rogan no, idea, it was September, I blinked and I'm here now
11:59 kmlussier Dyrcona: Thank you! Every time I talk to yboston, he mentions how he still owes me that flan. I can't even rememer what  I did that led to his promise of a flan.
12:00 kmlussier pinesol seems to be picking desserts that refer to long-ago Massachusetts Evergreen community members.
12:00 pinesol kmlussier: I see nothing, I know nothing!
12:01 Dyrcona pinesol is also doing its best impersonation of Feldwebel Shulz....
12:01 pinesol Dyrcona: PHRASING!!!
12:04 Dyrcona pinesol doesn't like being referred as "it" I suppose.
12:04 pinesol Dyrcona: It reads like a Nigerian 419 scam, but I think it is a sincere question sent to the wrong list.
12:04 Dyrcona pinesol What are your pronouns?
12:04 pinesol Dyrcona: well, that's what you get for not being a shell script
12:04 Dyrcona pinesol: I sometimes wonder if I'm not just a Perl one-liner.
12:04 pinesol Dyrcona: Have you confirmed your ISBN SPIDs with your service provider?
12:06 Dyrcona So, I am having fun with malformed MARC rerords. They have empty 901$b, and it turns out that tcn_source in biblio.record_entry is null for these records. That isn't supposed to be because the column is defined as "not null default 'AUTOGEN'::text."
12:07 Dyrcona Now I have to figure out what, if anything, these records have in common and how they're getting a null in bre.tcn_source when that should not be possible.
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12:09 Dyrcona Oh! Turns out they are not null, but ''.
12:10 Dyrcona All right, so who's putting '' in tcn_source....
12:13 Dyrcona @who put empty string in tcn_source
12:13 pinesol csharp_ put empty string in tcn_source.
12:13 Dyrcona 1.2 million times apparently....
12:13 Dyrcona Ok, 700,000 or so are deleted.
12:16 * Dyrcona suspects there is a bug somewhere.
12:17 Dyrcona Althought whatever it is/was appears to have stopped in April of 2021.
12:25 Dyrcona Some of the records appear to have been "broken" since migration to Evergreen.
13:42 Dyrcona Interestingly enough, the last of these coincides with the date we upgraded to Evergreen 3.5.3, so we must have had some fix int that upgrade that resolved this.
13:45 jeffdavis 3.5 seems so long ago, and then I remember that when I started working with EG we were on like 1.2...
13:49 kmlussier jeffdavis: When I started, the community was on 1.6. I remember at our first MassLNC meeting, Dyrcona was telling us we should all be looking to migrate to 2.0 because it would have all the new stuff coming with the KCLS grant. In the end, we went live with later releases, but I can't forget all the hype around that one particular release.
13:49 kmlussier 3.5 doesn't seem long ago to me because it happened after I left.
14:00 Dyrcona For us 3.5.3 was April of 2021. I had a quick look at our old 3.5.3 branch and didn't see anything in the DB upgrade. I bet there was a patch to Vandelay or something like that.
14:05 Dyrcona I think I'm going to have to postpone my fix test until Monday at the latest. It doesn't look like my script to dump the pretest data for later comparison with post-test data is going to finish in a reasonable time.
14:06 Dyrcona My test db refreshes this Sunday morning, so I'd have to do this all over again anyway.
14:09 Dyrcona The '80s were just 20 years ago, right? :)
14:13 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, they absolutely were. Please don't tell me any differently.
14:13 kmlussier And I'm still 39 years old.
14:22 Dyrcona :)
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15:57 Dyrcona So, I'm thinking array_agg on asset.copy_notes.value....
16:07 Rogan kmlussier if I'm remembering correctly we went live in SC on 1.6 as well
16:10 Dyrcona hm... array_agg won't work, 'cause I'm building objects... I'll have to figure out how to manually "flesh" the rows in DBI.
16:10 * Dyrcona reimplements cstore and fieldmapper.....
16:11 Dyrcona Rogan: kmlusssier signed out a while ago.
16:13 Dyrcona I'll have to look at from_bare_hash again, but maybe array on the whole rows will work, if I somehow map it with the field names..... This is too much for after 4 pm on a Friday.
16:13 Dyrcona I really don't want to do another query to grab copy notes. Stompro spent so much effort speeding this up.
16:14 Dyrcona This is all re Lp 2045440
16:14 pinesol Launchpad bug 2045440 in Evergreen "Add Public Copy Notes to MARC export when items requested" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2045440 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
16:14 Rogan Dyrcona yeah, I noticed right I sent it. i've been in blacksmith mood just hammering away and not noticing irc
16:15 Dyrcona Rogan: Yeah, I get like that most of the time, and now I have Slack to ignore, too! :)
16:15 Rogan same :)
16:19 berick Rogan: whatya making?
16:19 Dyrcona So, I have a thought for a possible solution to get the public copy notes: I join in the query, array_agg the fields into the results as whatever the field is called in the Fieldmapper entry for acp, then map the field names on the rows. Assuming, of course, that from_bare_hash can actually flesh the objects.
16:21 Rogan berick: well the metaphorical black smithing is migration work, literally blacksmithing wise I'm installing venting in my workshop this month for a coal forge
16:21 Rogan I've done a tiny bit before with a small propane forge but this will let me do bigger projects
16:22 Stompro Dyrcona, I haven't shared the branch yet that bulk loads the items like the bibs yet.  I'm not sure it is worth it, it didn't speed it up that much for me.  Went from 300K queries to 95 total though.  But the memory usage back up significantly.
16:22 berick Rogan: oh, cool
16:22 Rogan I suffer from endless interests syndrome
16:24 Stompro s/usage back/usage went back/
16:24 Dyrcona Stompro: OK.
16:24 berick now you'll have that AND.. daggers?  goblets?  tiny Evergreen pins!
16:24 Dyrcona Rogan++
16:25 Dyrcona I need to get some real hobbies.
16:26 Dyrcona I used ta have a couple, then "life" happend.
16:26 Rogan mostly I want to make my own kitchen knives and fixtures for around the house, goblets would be an interesting challenge due to the shape, pins I hadn't thought of hmmmmmm
16:26 Dyrcona Re public copy notes: I suppose if I have to, I can array_agg the rows and then manipulate the result set before call from_bare_hash.
16:27 Dyrcona Swords. I always wanted to make swords.
16:29 Stompro I'm also a hobby collector, but mainly I just think about them.... just found plans for building a sailboat with 6 sheets of plywood on the cheap.
16:29 Dyrcona A plywood sailboat.... Better invest in flotations vests, too. ;)
16:30 Stompro Dyrcona, just add another query and see how it performs before making it convoluted.
16:30 Dyrcona Stompro: You're probably right. Most copies won't have too many notes.
16:31 Stompro Lots of epoxy and some fiberglass is added, plus two big sealed flotation chambers, looks like it doesn't sink easy.
16:32 Stompro Rogan, can you work Stainless Steel in a home forge?
16:34 * Dyrcona should look into blacksmith classes. I know there are some around here.
16:34 Rogan Stompro I think so, I'm a newb at this but my understanding is you just need to be careful in the quench because if you miss the target temperature too much you screw up the chromium
16:35 Rogan that reminds me, I should buy one of those fancy blacksmithing temperature readers rather than eyeball the color of the metal
16:35 Dyrcona Bet my neighbors would love that at 6:00 AM on a Saturday morning.....
16:36 Rogan I consider it revenge for my neighbors and their compulsive obsessive lawn care with gasoline powered tools
16:36 Rogan but I'm out, have a good weekend all!
16:36 Dyrcona Rogan Stompro: You ever watch Lindy Beige on Youtube? He made his own sword and had some armor made. His videos on that are interesting.
16:36 Dyrcona Cheers, Rogan! Catch you later!
16:37 Stompro have a good weekend.
16:38 Stompro Oh hey, I get to leave now also.  Night Night all.
16:41 Dyrcona I might as well pop out, too. Have a good weekend, everyone!
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16:58 pinesol News from commits: LP2002362 Follow-up 2: Register button alignment <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=2782e6​b9cea1be6aaf1a771474114e89c9f49132>
16:58 pinesol News from commits: LP2002362 Follow-up: workstation registration labels <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=91392e​6129a660e2ef1f452687e97dbdc59aa987>
16:58 pinesol News from commits: LP2002362 Workstation admin page accessibility <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=2803f4​98dec8a0f3ba480ef7198eaa3631212ff1>
16:58 pinesol News from commits: LP#2043127-Marking org unit as non-visible in the OPAC defaults patrons' preferred... <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b1dc3​ce1f7479e6b18907c4a6e389bce0b89b55>
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