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jcamins |
Hey, I have a question about the performance tuning that folks have been doing on Evergreen. Does anyone know if the project came up with a benchmark, like "searches should finish in n seconds"? |
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csharp |
jcamins: not that I've seen - I'd be interested if so |
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jcamins |
csharp: yeah, I was just noticing that 2s seems to be fairly normal for OPACs, which seems to me to be somewhat beyond the realm of "acceptable" in a website. |
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csharp |
quick tests of PINES' opac on a good network connection using FF23's Tools -> Web Developer -> Network feature shows 2s on the low end and 7s on the high end of keyword searches |
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csharp |
jcamins: agreed |
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RoganH |
chsarp: two seconds for an opac search? |
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Dyrcona |
Inconceivable! |
| 10:19 |
RoganH |
I don't think that word means what you think it means. |
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eeevil |
Dyrcona: i don't think that word ... oh, nevermind. |
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eeevil |
bah |
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RoganH |
:) |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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mmorgan |
:) |
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Dyrcona |
Don't mind me if I get more incoherent than usual. |
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rfrasur |
(inconthievable) |
| 10:21 |
Dyrcona |
I was chasing a bat around my dining room and kitchen at 2:00 am. |
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RoganH |
Better than the bat chasing you I suppose though still ... not good. |
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rfrasur |
Did you catch it/dispatch it/chase it out? |
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* berick |
read that as "chasing a bat around with a bat" |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I caught it and released it in the back yard. |
| 10:23 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I left the blanket lying there. It didn't seem to want to let go. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Angela Kilsdonk] Documentation for storing Z39.50 credentials. Added to existing file on Z39.50 permissions. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7f85406> |
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Dyrcona |
documenters++ |
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eeevil |
akilsdonk_++ |
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MrMayor |
I have come to inquire about the evergreen starting to implement RDA. Anyone on the train yet? |
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csharp |
MrMayor: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=cataloging:rda has a couple of links to relevant bug reports |
| 10:44 |
csharp |
those are the only 2 I see |
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csharp |
so if there are other needs to make RDA usable we need bug reports on them so they can get implemented asap |
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MrMayor |
I assumed our friendly Evergreen developers would have been hard at work on this anyway seeing as how RDA is the elephant galumphing toward our horizon |
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Dyrcona |
That assumption would be incorrect. |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
I recall watching the Elephant galumph on by back in March. |
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MrMayor |
That is most dissapointing |
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Dyrcona |
What do you want for nothing? |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
If you want to see something worked on, the best bet is hire someone to work on it. |
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RoganH |
As a matter of order I object to the usage of galumph. I think the work has very clearly been more slinking than galumphing. You can't galumph without bug reports. |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
I believe the OCLC's implementation of RDA is the elephant in question. |
| 10:56 |
RoganH |
When I try to get catalogers to say what they want to do in regards to RDA I usually a number of answers that is a square of the number of catalogers in the room if that value is greater than 1. |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
Though it is more of a mouse, or perhaps a bat. ;) |
| 10:57 |
RoganH |
If the value is 1 the number of opinions is usually 2 or 3. |
| 10:58 |
MrMayor |
Not everyone can afford to hire someone to work on a database that they have because it is free. I am in no rush here, just curious as to the implementation and thought it would have already been being worked on. Oh well. |
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Dyrcona |
I work on my employer's priorities, and RDA is apparently not a big on for us. |
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Dyrcona |
s/on/one/ |
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jcamins |
RDA is definitely galumphing. |
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MrMayor |
And nothing happens unless the big wigs say it is so. They ask, and I look |
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RoganH |
My point is that while some folks would probably be willing to do some gratius work (though lavish praise helps) a clearly defined goal helps along a lot. |
| 10:59 |
MrMayor |
Thats what I'm doing |
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jcamins |
Crushing spirits with its large, unwieldy feet. |
| 10:59 |
RoganH |
jcamins: I agree that RDA is galumphing, just not Evergreen development on RDA |
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Dyrcona |
RDA is a problem looking for a problem. ;) |
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berick |
hehe |
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MrMayor |
I don't even have a defined question yet. Just a hey, what about this? |
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Dyrcona |
Kinda like NCIP.... ;) |
| 11:00 |
MrMayor |
But it will have to be done eventually |
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RoganH |
Dyrcona++ |
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jcamins |
RoganH: oh. Sorry, misread the scrollback. |
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RoganH |
jcamins: I may have been unclear. |
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RoganH |
To be clear I think there are a lot of obvious things we could do but people still need to document them so that they can be wishlisted, tracked, commented on, etc... and just because we could do we want to? |
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jcamins |
Probably not. It took me a dozen tries to spell "unwieldy" correctly, and I'm still not sure it's right, which suggests that my brain is only partially activated. |
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Dyrcona |
The fact that you have to pay to access the RDA documentation is a bit of a downer. |
| 11:02 |
MrMayor |
Yea. I just had to go through a powerpoint. |
| 11:02 |
MrMayor |
I wish the coffee here wasnt thicker than a crossaint |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: but it makes sense, see... RDA is specifically a *white* elephant. |
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RoganH |
Dyrcona: agreed. I'd like to see a sort of wizard / documentation tool but it's not a priority for my consortium and my personal time given to Evergreen is being eaten up elsewhere. |
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rfrasur |
RDA-- |
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MrMayor |
Anyway, my knowledge has been satiated for the time being. Thanks for the help guys. |
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Dyrcona |
jcamins: Sure its not a white rhino? |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: how expensive is it to take care of a white rhino? |
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phasefx |
could any part of RDA be sold as an aphrodisiac? |
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rfrasur |
phasefx: the opposite |
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Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 11:04 |
phasefx |
has a low lethal dose |
| 11:04 |
rfrasur |
RDA=chemical castration (pardon) |
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* Dyrcona |
goes back to figuring out how to jam transactions from TLC into Evergreen. |
| 11:06 |
phasefx |
could replace the MARC editor with an XML editor and start supporting all sorts of formats |
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* rfrasur |
laughs |
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Dyrcona |
Gotta love it when the transaction file contains transactions for barcodes that don't exist in the copy information. |
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* rfrasur |
goes back to drafting Library Entrance Log |
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Dyrcona |
"Director's Log....Book Date 1489.567...." |
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* Dyrcona |
really gets back to work. |
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rfrasur |
Nobody'd be allowed to read that. Too much profanity. |
| 11:16 |
rfrasur |
The irony of something called "You Are Welcome Here" where non-white, non-male people are explicitly invited. |
| 11:20 |
jcamins |
rfrasur: that does say something about our culture, doesn't it? |
| 11:22 |
jboyer-isl |
Has anyone run into issues where the report interface will say it's using an inner join, but the generated sql uses left outer? |
| 11:22 |
rfrasur |
jcamins: To answer briefly something that is a HUGE discussion - Yes. Apparently, my three sons aren't welcome there. That is all. I shall take a walk and let it go. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Add new get_combined_holdings() method to MFHD.pm - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=83f8420> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Tie in new MFHD method to serials module/MFHD tests for compressing, combining - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fbe9e5a> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Fix logic in get_compressed_holdings() - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=07b28a0> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Solidify caption/holding relationship, improve MFHD::Holding comparisons - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a6f3e3b> |
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csharp |
jboyer-isl: using nullability selection? |
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eeevil |
jboyer-isl: are you sure it /says/ it's using an inner join, and not a "default" join? some default joins are, indeed, left joins |
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jboyer-isl |
You bet. I'm working with stat cats, so I wanted to limit it to patrons who have a specific SC set, and to a specific value. There's an "(inner)" in the source specifier box in the lower right. I also noticed that it's including an IS NULL OR ... for those, and an actual inner join on our_unit id. |
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pastebot |
"jboyer-isl" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "Report interface confusion" (581 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/15 |
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jboyer-isl |
Warning, paste is xbox hueg. |
| 11:30 |
mmorgan |
jboyer-isl: we are frustrated by that very thing quite a bit. |
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csharp |
jboyer-isl: and you chose "None" nullability the whole way through when joining the stat cat tables? |
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mmorgan |
I'm not the one who churns out the report templates, but have had many a conversation about IS NULL OR ... when we don't want that condition |
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csharp |
mmorgan: theoretically, enabling nullability selection and selecting "None" for each join should do it |
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csharp |
but I've also seen that not work the way I expected :-/ |
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mmorgan |
chsarp: So that is different than NOT enabling nullability? |
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jboyer-isl |
That's what's going on. I re-made the template being very sure to verify that the none row was selected, same problem. |
| 11:34 |
csharp |
enabling nullability selection allows you to control how the tables join |
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csharp |
mmorgan: if you don't enable nullability, the default selections are used (which would be left outer since not all items have stat cats) |
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csharp |
@karma reports |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: Karma for "reports" has been increased 0 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of -5. |
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* eeevil |
returns and reads up |
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mmorgan |
csharp: wish I understood this better. Is the default join always left outer? Or does that depend on the source? |
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csharp |
mmorgan: depends on the source and the relationship between the tables |
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csharp |
so an asset.copy object *may* have a asset.stat_cat_entry_map entry, but may not, so left outer join for that case |
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jecs |
can someone tell me about the cancelled holds screen in the staff client? i am viewing a patron record that has around 15 cancelled holds. there are fields on the display for cancel cause, cancel note and cancel time but none of them have any data. none appear to have simply expired. the reason i ask is that a patron has asked why they can't see the same information about cancelled holds that a library staff member can see. i'm tryi |
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jecs |
ng to verify if that's accurate. |
| 11:39 |
eeevil |
mmorgan: it may be IRC context deficiency, and you may very well know this, but to be clear ... that checkbox is to allow nullability /selection/, not "turn on nullability" (aka, join flavor) |
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csharp |
yeah, "enabling nullability" is imprecise |
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phasefx |
jecs: verified that cancel_time is actually set on those holds in the database? |
| 11:45 |
_bott_ |
cancel_time with no cancel_cause sounds like direct DB updating, or possibly an empty action.hold_request_cancel_cause table? ...or missing cause labels? |
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mmorgan |
eeevil: didn't have this quite clear in my head. So if one does not enable nullability, one is at the mercy of whatever joins are set in the sources? |
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jecs |
phasefx: good question. i assumed is was not. give me a sec... |
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phasefx |
_bott_: but if cancel_time is being presented as empty as well in the staff client.... jecs: I'd check for console errors too, Admin -> For Developers -> Javascript Console -> Errors |
| 11:46 |
mmorgan |
if one enables nullabilty, one can have the control of making each join in the query an inner join - if that's what one wants? |
| 11:47 |
_bott_ |
ah, missed that blank cancel_time. |
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mmorgan |
jboyer-isl: does all this help with your problem? didn't mean to hijack your question. |
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* _bott_ |
chases after Expert Search quirks. Ponders own expertise after tail chasing |
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jboyer-isl |
It's not hurting, but no, I specifically selected what should be an actual inner join and something is generating a left outer anyway. Now that I'm actually using the correct fields (oops..) I'll see if the person who wants these numbers will just accept a couple by-hand runs and call it done. |
| 11:50 |
eeevil |
mmorgan: the short version is "yes" |
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csharp |
jboyer-isl: I often do that |
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mmorgan |
eeevil: Thanks. I think this info will helpful. We'll try working more with the nullability. |
| 11:55 |
eeevil |
jboyer-isl: so, in the UI, you're using the "None" branches to go all the way from circ, through usr to stat cat entry? (or, even better, for every path link you choose?) |
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jboyer-isl |
I was following the default links for everything except the stat cat links from the patron. Does that not work? |
| 11:57 |
eeevil |
well, it may not be expressing in SQL what you want ... |
| 11:58 |
eeevil |
the rel_cache part of the template matches what you describe |
| 11:58 |
eeevil |
based on the 'path' entries for each rel_cache entry |
| 11:59 |
jboyer-isl |
I'll redo it this time and only follow 'none' links to see how it changes. |
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jboyer-isl |
That did take care of it. |
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csharp |
eeevil++ |
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jboyer-isl |
So, the only way to use inner joins is to follow "none" links all the way from the "root" link in the specified source? |
| 12:03 |
eeevil |
no, there is a bug here |
| 12:03 |
eeevil |
I'm hunting ... |
| 12:03 |
jboyer-isl |
That makes me feel better. |
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mmorgan |
me too :) |
| 12:04 |
eeevil |
but, in order to classify the bug as closely as possible, I'm still very curious about the full-path None version |
| 12:04 |
jboyer-isl |
Would you like it pasted? |
| 12:04 |
eeevil |
if you don't mind |
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pastebot |
"jboyer-isl" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "Correct inner join report" (577 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/16 |
| 12:05 |
jboyer-isl |
I didn't actually look at either too closely beyond the "generated SQL" section. |
| 12:06 |
eeevil |
that did what you expected? |
| 12:06 |
eeevil |
er, gave you output you expected |
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jboyer-isl |
I believe so. The libraries and # of circs by patrons with a specific value in a specific stat cat. I de-munged it and it looked a lot like what I would have written by hand (aside from the date formatting). |
| 12:10 |
jecs |
phasefx et al: verifying stored data in db showed 30 cancelled holds. all have reason and time canceled. this wasn't the problem at all. when i added 'cancel cause' to canceled holds display, it didn't populate. is saved the columns, closed the record and reopened. voila! tx for your help! |
| 12:11 |
phasefx |
jecs: weird, but okay :) |
| 12:12 |
jecs |
phasefx: what's 'untargeted expiration' for a reason? |
| 12:12 |
phasefx |
don't have personal experience with that, but it sounds like the hold couldn't find an eligible copy to put on a pull list somewhere for too long a time |
| 12:13 |
jecs |
ah |
| 12:15 |
mmorgan |
jecs: fwiw, also see lp 1040686 |
| 12:15 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1040686 in Evergreen "Unified editor shouldn't always delete volumes" (affected: 9, heat: 52) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040686 |
| 12:24 |
pastebot |
"eeevil" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "jboyer-isl: could it be this simple?" (13 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/17 |
| 12:25 |
eeevil |
jboyer-isl: you'd apply that on whatever box runs clark, restart clark, and try your /first/ template again. |
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jboyer-isl |
I'll give that a shot this afternoon and see. |
| 12:28 |
eeevil |
jboyer-isl: awesome, thanks. if it works out well I'll push a branch |
| 12:36 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl++ |
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rfrasur |
That exceptional feeling when your brain works at exactly the time you need it to. |
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Dyrcona |
brainvergnugen? |
| 12:48 |
rfrasur |
hmm....yes...although when you say that aloud it's reminiscient of an old dude sneezing |
| 12:48 |
eeevil |
rfrasur: and that's why marketing works ;) |
| 12:49 |
rfrasur |
eeevil:exactly. hmm, I feel like I should go wash my hands now. |
| 12:52 |
Dyrcona |
Ah, schadenfreude.... |
| 12:53 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona:... |
| 12:54 |
rfrasur |
county council review form submitted! |
| 12:54 |
* rfrasur |
feels so grown up |
| 12:54 |
Dyrcona |
Remembers the first time that I felt grown up. |
| 12:55 |
rfrasur |
I'm afraid to ask. |
| 12:56 |
Dyrcona |
Oh. It's no biggie. |
| 12:56 |
Dyrcona |
The first time my daughter had a sleep over, I realized that other people trust me with their kids. |
| 12:57 |
rfrasur |
hmm, I can see that. |
| 12:57 |
rfrasur |
I used to feel much more grown up. With the impending emptying of the nest, however, there seems to be a bit of a reversion. |
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rfrasur |
It'd be cool if you could connect your brain into AutoCAD or something and build an image and then do an internet search for similar items |
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jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: ever seen tineye? It can't help with the first part, but you give it an image and it tries to find similar things. |
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Dyrcona |
you can also drag images into google search. |
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Dyrcona |
rfrasur: on being an adult: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxivmjW34o |
| 13:30 |
jboyer-isl |
Hadn't heard about that. Also neat. |
| 13:30 |
Dyrcona |
oops. |
| 13:30 |
Dyrcona |
I think the video was too much. :) |
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Dyrcona |
I use RevEye Reverse Image Search with Chromium. It lets you image search multiple services including TinEye and Google. |
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rfrasur |
jboyer-isl:I haven't...but I'll definitely look it up. |
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rfrasur |
(AutoCAD is expensive anyway) |
| 13:34 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: You probably missed the video link that I shared. |
| 13:35 |
rfrasur |
oh, I did. My computer went to sleep and it disconnects from freenode when that happens. (I need to fix something so that stops happening) |
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* rfrasur |
checks the logs |
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dbwells |
grabbing 0815 and 0816 |
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hopkinsju_ |
If I'm going from 2.3.3 -> 2.4.1, should I run the 2.4.0-2.4.1 script before or after the 2.3-2.4-supplemental? |
| 15:14 |
Dyrcona |
@eightball Should hopkinsju_ run master and leave such questions behind? |
| 15:14 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: No chance. |
| 15:16 |
hopkinsju_ |
pinesol_green++ |
| 15:16 |
jboyer-isl |
Hey,hey, for once I'm down with the 8 ball. :D |
| 15:16 |
hopkinsju_ |
Running master sounds like an awesome way to get rid of any free weekends to me... |
| 15:16 |
pinesol_green |
Showing latest 5 of 10 commits to Evergreen... |
| 15:16 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Break up expensive queries, match index to quals - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6990fd8> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] OPAC Browse: bugfixes squashed together from LP #1177810 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cfc828d> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Fix issues with multiple divs having the search-wrapper id. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=256b4d2> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Fix problem where basic search bar was flush with left edge of page - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=32ec20b> |
| 15:16 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Stamping upgrade scripts for bib record browser - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c7bad82> |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
Master has no more bugs than official releases, often less. |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
You get fixes when they're "fix committed" and don't have to wait for "fix released." |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
It also means never having to ask about what order to run upgrade scripts. |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
And, that's my quarterly plug for master. :p |
| 15:18 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Finish stamping for bib record browser - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e071eb9> |
| 15:19 |
* Dyrcona |
dances for bib broswer going in to master. |
| 15:33 |
jboyer-isl |
eeevil: Re: inner join patch, Victory! Though there may be something somewhere else that's awry, because even though they're joined correctly now, there are blahblah IS NULL OR blahblahh="Value". The results, for this report at least, are the same even if the unnecessary IS NULL clauses removed; so they're not an immediate concern. |
| 15:34 |
Dyrcona |
dbwells: Was today a deadline for alpha1? |
| 15:34 |
Dyrcona |
Was/Is.... |
| 15:35 |
Dyrcona |
Never mind. I learned to read my email. :) |
| 15:37 |
Dyrcona |
reading++ |
| 15:47 |
Dyrcona |
Ugh. |
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rfrasur |
(bolt...you think you can mess w/ me? I'll strip your threads like a newborn baby gettin' its diaper changed) |
| 15:55 |
Dyrcona |
grabbing 0817 |
| 16:03 |
jboyer-isl |
Careful there rfrasur, pretty soon you end up rounding out the head, then it's time for a drill, and eventually the whole thing escalates to weapons. |
| 16:05 |
pinesol_green |
Showing latest 5 of 8 commits to Evergreen... |
| 16:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1169193 transit_slip macro for copy status - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ceb5682> |
| 16:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1169193 long-overdue release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5d842e5> |
| 16:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1169193 Bypass longoverdue w/ default A/T runner - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=91e7fe4> |
| 16:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP 1169193 Support L/O xact close on paid - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3dcdcf4> |
| 16:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Stamping upgrade script for long overdue status -- LP 1169193. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1d7b2ff> |
| 16:11 |
dbwells |
Dyrcona: Yeah. I'll be sending out an alpha1 email update over the weekend. At this point I'm planning to suggest an alpha2 to follow fairly quickly, as their wasn't much energy behind alpha1, which was mostly my fault. I thought I could teach a music camp and still do the same level of RM duties; turns out I could not :) |
| 16:14 |
Dyrcona |
An alpha2 would be nice. |
| 16:17 |
* dbs |
wonders if there's still time for schema.org augmentation (based on discussions in schemabibex w3c group) and possibly mobile tpac work for the 2.5 release - I should have some hours to contribute next week |
| 16:17 |
* Dyrcona |
will be disappearing for two weeks. |
| 16:18 |
paxed |
well, the world must maintain the balance of awesomeness, right? |
| 16:18 |
jboyer-isl |
I was going to block off a large amount of time at the hackaway just for mobile opac work, though that's far too late for 2.5.0. :/ |
| 16:18 |
paxed |
dbs enters, Dyrcona must leave. |
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* dbs |
is on a bus heading to Toronto and has crappyconnectivity, so he shall also leave :) |
| 16:22 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 16:23 |
Dyrcona |
I supposedly will have wireless access in a certain building of the "resort" where I'll be staying. |
| 16:23 |
dbs |
JAM IT |
| 16:23 |
Dyrcona |
I supposedly can tether my laptop to my phone, but have no idea of the cell reception and only have a 4GB plan. |
| 16:24 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 16:24 |
Dyrcona |
We usually go somewhere there is no wifi. |
| 16:24 |
dbs |
Unless you're transmitting bitmap fonts as your terminal, 4gb goes a long way with ssh :) |
| 16:26 |
gmcharlt |
dbs: one is not sshing right if one's font is not Comic Sans |
| 16:27 |
RoganH |
gmcharlt: you will go to heck for that |
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berick |
Dyrcona++ # long-overdue mergificationosity |
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dbs |
That merge was long overdue! |
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* Dyrcona |
golf claps. |
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rfrasur |
@later tell jboyer-isl I measured incorrectly and didn't technically need to defeat the bolt. It, therefore, has been allowed to remain and be ignored for the next 25 years. |
| 16:53 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: The operation succeeded. |
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rfrasur |
Happy Friday everyone. Have a safe and relaxing weekend. |
| 17:34 |
senator |
dbwells++ |
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senator |
night all |
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