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00:13 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Use uri_escape_utf8 instead of uri_escape - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=85c1d63>
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05:03 paxed is the git server down?
05:03 paxed (or is it just me - what with me being on the train ...)
07:15 csharp paxed: git server's working for me
07:23 paxed ok, so it's just me.
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08:44 kmlussier senator/eeevil: In re-reading yesterday's e-mail re disappearing staff features from opac, it suddenly occurred to me that the person in question is probably on an Evergreen instance where tpac is the public catalog and jspac is still being used in the staff client.
08:46 senator kmlussier: ooh, i bet you're right
08:46 graced kmlussier: smart thinking!
08:47 kmlussier Well, we had a consortium that had both running at one point, so it was easy to make that connection.
08:50 csharp Sara Paulk used to be in a PINES library (general interest observation)
08:53 csharp more trivia... we also decided that we are probably related since there are many Paulks on my mom's south Georgia side from the same area as her family
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08:55 csharp okay - so our libraries have just discovered that dupe name/address checking is restricting its scope to the workstation OU (or its system) when it used to be doing a consortium-wide check (in the patron reg screen)
08:56 csharp we don't use opt-in, so it's not that (set to "false" in opensrf.xml and no YAOUS settings in place)
08:56 csharp I tested setting opt-in to true and setting the boundary and default to "0" (expecting that to be consortium) - no change
08:57 kmlussier https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1185524
08:57 csharp the code in register.js appears to scope the search to "0" unless opt-in is in place, so I'm kind of at the end of knowing what to check next
08:57 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1185524 in Evergreen "duplicate patron checking in the user editor is limited to the workstation OU" (affected: 4, heat: 20) [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Kyle Tomita (tomitakyle)
08:58 csharp kmlussier: ah!
08:58 kmlussier It was set to incomplete, but I'm wondering if it should be set back to confirmed.
08:58 csharp that didn't come up in my searches
08:58 csharp launchpad_search--
08:59 csharp hmm - that submitter's name looks familiar ;-)
08:59 csharp csharp--
08:59 kmlussier :)
08:59 bshum launchpad_search--
08:59 kmlussier @karma launchpad_search
08:59 pinesol_green kmlussier: Karma for "launchpad_search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3.
09:00 kmlussier launchpad_search--
09:01 csharp fwiw, I agree with eeevil's opinions on how the implementation should work
09:01 * tsbere stares at a still running query and wonders WTF is causing it to take over 20 hours
09:01 bshum +1
09:01 kmlussier tsbere: Still?
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09:10 * csharp changes the bug back to "confirmed"
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09:28 jboyer-isl tsbere: did someone move your psql tablespace to reel-to-reel?
09:29 tsbere jboyer-isl: I hope not. ;)
09:39 rfrasur It's a sad state of affairs when the librarian forgets to return her book on time.
09:42 * csharp owes fines to his local library constantly
09:42 csharp my county isn't in PINES, so I'm "just a patron"
09:42 senator csharp: were you able to work something up on 1185524 yet?
09:42 rfrasur Maybe I need to change my permission so that I acrue fines.
09:42 csharp senator: I was just experimenting with hard-coding the search_ou, but not really
09:43 senator i have a branch along the lines of eeevil's suggestions you could test
09:43 csharp oh - excllent
09:43 csharp excellent, that is
09:43 csharp cool - hard-coding does work ;-)
09:45 senator https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1185524/comments/6
09:45 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1185524 in Evergreen "duplicate patron checking in the user editor is limited to the workstation OU" (affected: 4, heat: 22) [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kyle Tomita (tomitakyle)
09:45 csharp senator: awesome - I'll test
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09:49 * rfrasur does the "we got a new board member and it's the one we requested" dance.
09:52 senator kmlussier++
09:53 senator you get my vote for evergreen PR czar, should you ever want another burden
09:53 rfrasur agreed
09:53 senator (i guess people don't elect czars, but you know what i mean)
09:53 rfrasur kmlussier++ #for talking people down off walls
09:54 rfrasur and providing good information
09:54 kmlussier I'm willing to share the joys of PR czar. It takes a community to talk people down off walls.
09:55 rfrasur no no...it's all you :D (joking)
09:55 rfrasur czars aren't necessarily particularly interested in the well-being of the community either, are they?
09:56 kmlussier Benevolent czars?
09:56 berick we could have one for each spelling of czar..
09:57 rfrasur If such a thing exists, you'd be that kind.
09:57 rfrasur csar? tsar?
09:57 berick kmlussier++
09:57 rfrasur anyway...obviously not getting work done.  I shall go buy books now...in theory.
09:59 csharp kmlussier++
10:00 * gmcharlt calls for the appointement of a Tsar-Czar Deciding ... Imperator?
10:00 csharp interested that they want a separate search for the staff client than they do for the public OPAC since the whole idea from the beginning was to have the staff view and public view be the same ;-)
10:02 csharp s/interested/interesting/
10:04 csharp senator: works in 2.3.6
10:05 csharp senator++
10:08 senator thanks for brining it back up and testing! signoff appreciated
10:08 kmlussier csharp: I wonder if they really want a separate search, though, or if they just miss some features and the fact that it was easier to get to some searches, like numeric and MARC expert, in jspac. Having heard the same complaints here.
10:08 kmlussier I think tsbere's work that allows staff to set a default search tab in the staff client will help with some of that here.
10:09 csharp kmlussier: I'm sure you're right
10:09 csharp senator: what is the best way to sign off? create my own branch and sign off there?
10:10 senator heh, imperator. with praetors to help. who'll make the togas?
10:10 collum It could be that they came from an ILS that had separate staff and public indexes, and thus different searches and results for each.  Us librarians embrace change. ;)
10:10 senator csharp: aye, yeah, have to do a separate branch for signoff
10:10 csharp senator: ok - will do
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10:12 senator csharp++
10:15 gmcharlt collum: and squeeze it and call it George? ;)
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10:25 csharp senator: https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1185524/comments/7
10:25 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1185524 in Evergreen "duplicate patron checking in the user editor is limited to the workstation OU" (affected: 4, heat: 22) [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kyle Tomita (tomitakyle)
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10:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kyle Tomita] LP1185524 - Duplicate patron checking in the user editor is limited to workstation OU - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=96f91f2>
10:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Adjust Kyle Tomita's patron dupe check fix to use the depth concept - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=589b83b>
10:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] DB numbering for patron duplication check depth setting - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cdec380>
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10:48 * collum is now laughing at gmcharlt's comment and thinking to the royal baby at the same time.
10:51 rfrasur I don't think you're allowed to squeeze that baby George.
10:52 rfrasur "To the tower with you" and all that.
10:57 mcooper kmlussier++
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11:23 rfrasur Dyrcona++ #for pointing out the ability to mute conversations in gmail
11:30 kmlussier I was trying to figure out how to mute conversations the other day, but I couldn't find it.
11:32 rfrasur If you go into a message and then click on the more button above the message field...there's an option there.
11:32 RoganH I'm having a total mind blank - the zip code look up in db now right?
11:32 rfrasur second from the last option
11:33 csharp RoganH: for us it's still in a zips.txt file
11:33 csharp (2.3.6)
11:34 RoganH Bah.  OK.  So it is still in the text file.
11:34 senator still true in master FTR
11:34 RoganH I have run an emergency courier route and not had any coffee.
11:36 rfrasur RoganH: Is there something you don't do? or do you have clones?
11:36 rfrasur or SHOULD you have clones?
11:36 csharp I keep thinking we should audit ours for accuracy sometime, but we get *zero* complaints about it being wrong, so I guess it must be close/right ;-)
11:36 kmlussier rfrasur: Yeah, that's where I was looking. My second from last option is to translate the message. Oh well, something to figure out another day.
11:36 RoganH I'd love clones.  I'm the HQ manager which means my "other duties as required" covers everyone else's.
11:36 csharp attack of the rogans!
11:37 rfrasur kmlussier: Has your gmail been switched over to the new interface?  Mine hasn't yet...not main inbox at least.
11:37 RoganH hmmm.... I have a few swords, not enough for a clone army but maybe a small strike force.
11:37 rfrasur RoganH: You definitely need clones.
11:38 bshum csharp: Apparently some towns split zipcodes.  Or the four digit extension is what really decides which place it is.
11:38 RoganH I do a lot of different things so I always feel stupid when I ask a question I should know the answer to but I don't get a chance to focus enough to know everything as much as I should.
11:38 bshum 5 digits alone don't always cut it up here.
11:38 csharp bshum: ah
11:38 RoganH In our rural areas zip codes can be very highly contested.
11:38 bshum That too.
11:38 csharp I would definitely expect feedback if it was really wrong
11:38 csharp our libraries aren't shy ;-)
11:39 rfrasur RoganH: I don't know anyone that would characterize you as stupid.  So..ignore the feels.
11:39 RoganH They're more of .... suggestions.  Like the painted lines on our roads.
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11:39 csharp RoganH++
11:39 kmlussier I know C/W MARS has problems with towns sharing zip codes, but I can't remember how they handled it. Maybe they didn't add those zip codes to the zip.txt file.
11:39 rfrasur Our zipcodes, as far as I know, are pretty hard and fast...but, now that I've said that, I'm sure to be schooled soon.
11:40 csharp rfrasur: yep - I'm tempting fate by talking out loud about it ;-)
11:40 jboyer-isl rfrasur: I think our ZIP codes are more stable than our area codes. 812 split coming, good times!
11:41 rfrasur jboyer-isl: Isn't the split gonna be a weird one, too?  Not necessarily geographic?
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11:42 jboyer-isl Don't remember. I only have a cell phone and always enter all 10 numbers into contacts, so I haven't paid much attention.
11:42 rfrasur same here
11:42 frank hi everybody, does the 2.4.1version of EG has the Authority Browse option?, I mean in the TPAC
11:42 senator jboyer-isl: wait, does that imply that you still have 7 digit dialing on landlines?
11:43 kmlussier frank: It will be in 2.5
11:43 rfrasur senator: in some cases, yes
11:43 jboyer-isl Locally, yes.
11:43 frank kmlussier: thanks
11:43 senator far out
11:43 jboyer-isl 812 is an enormous area code geographically, so it was really convenient when I still had a landline.
11:43 rfrasur in our town, they'd only gone to 7 digit from 5 digit a couple years before I rolled in....after 1990.
11:44 jboyer-isl When I was really young, we still had a party line. No idea how those were ever a good idea.
11:44 * senator was doing an eg telephony setup once and was a bit surprised by certain magic four digit numbers. i thought at first "wow, *really* small town" but it turned out to be a special county govt phone system
11:45 rfrasur so, senator, basically a small town
11:45 yboston_ frank: to be more specific the old JSPAC "authority browse" is a simpler feature, than the more feature rich "author, subject browse" that will be in EG 2.5
11:45 senator well, yeah. but regular folks' home phones wouldn't have acted that way, at least
11:45 senator i assume
11:46 rfrasur senator++ #for dealing with government telephony and living to tell about it.
11:46 frank excellent yboston_, thanks
11:47 senator rfrasur: it was somewhat harrowing. it put me in mind of the way andy used to pick up the phone and yell for sarah to route his call
11:47 senator but it all worked out in the end :-)
11:48 rfrasur I prefer to ignore our library phones.  They work...and we're small, so...the inefficiency of them will wait for another day.
11:48 rfrasur the push/pull of wanting efficiency and being cheap
11:50 gmcharlt rfrasur: I regret to inform you that senator did not actually survive the experience.  He makes for a very sprightly zombie, though ;)
11:50 rfrasur gmcharlt++ #that makes more sense
11:51 senator excuse me now, it's time for brains^W lunch
11:51 jboyer-isl Turns out, there's a form you have to fill out to die on the gov's time, and he missed the filing deadline.
11:51 rfrasur jboyer-isl++
11:52 rfrasur senator, don't worry.  I'm sure there's an extension form and possibly a way to waive the penalty.  possibly
11:53 senator hehe
11:54 rfrasur Please note - budget forms on a Friday before taking son to college...probably not the best idea.  I don't even know what the heck they're talking about.
11:54 * rfrasur has done this before.
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11:57 phasefx wow, irssi windows are confusing
11:58 rfrasur jboyer-isl: Is downtown crazy with gamer people?
12:00 jboyer-isl It's not so bad, though I haven't been walking around much at lunch the last couple of days. Saw a Deadpool and random anime hair girls yesterday at lunch though.
12:00 jboyer-isl Traffic is not great though.
12:00 jboyer-isl Not that it ever is.
12:00 rfrasur yeah...and great time, as always, to have construction here and there.
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12:05 jboyer-isl Next month they close 65/70 through downtown. GenCon will be a fond memory of traffic efficiency.
12:07 rfrasur Yeah, I saw that in the Friday Facts thing.  I like that they added a nice logo to make people feel better.
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12:59 mrpeters jboyer-isl: for real?  for how long?
12:59 mrpeters for that bridge everyone keeps hitting?
13:00 rfrasur mrpeters: Here's this.  http://www.in.gov/library/​files/frifacts_8.16.13.htm
13:00 rfrasur and this http://www.in.gov/indot/3154.htm
13:01 mrpeters interesting
13:01 mrpeters i take that route to Pacers games
13:01 mrpeters down to Fletcher St.  I'll have to remember this come october
13:01 mrpeters god bless WFH
13:01 rfrasur I try to avoid that route like the plague anyway.  I've been leaving 70 at Mt. Comfort and taking 40/Washington in anyway.
13:02 rfrasur hmm...anyway seems to be the word of choice
13:02 mrpeters are you working downtown now too?
13:03 mrpeters jboyer-isl: go to Circle Center for lunch today, you'll see quite a show
13:03 rfrasur No, I just drive in periodically.  Was there two days this week and once next week...and then not for a few weeks (hopefully).
13:03 mrpeters gotcha
13:03 * mrpeters gets to upgrade a 2.1.6 system to 2.4.1 this weekend....yay!
13:03 rfrasur My poor 18 month old car is nearing 45k.
13:04 mrpeters thats a lotta driving!
13:04 rfrasur si
13:04 mrpeters my wifes poor less than 1 year old car got likely totaled yesterday
13:05 rfrasur oh no.  Is she okay?
13:05 mrpeters rear ended for the 5th time in her life....thankfully it didnt reinjure her spine
13:05 mrpeters she just has a concussion, so no playing teacher today for her!
13:05 rfrasur lol, just a concussion.  poor thing.
13:05 mrpeters yeah :( shes had bad luck
13:06 mrpeters got hit by a semi in 2003 that shattered her spine
13:06 mrpeters so shes basically made of metal haha
13:06 rfrasur robo-wife
13:07 rfrasur That's one reason I avoid Indy...or plan timing (though sometimes crazy traffic is unavoidable).  I feel like each time I DON'T get in an accident puts me that much closer to the time I do.
13:08 mrpeters she got hit in PA
13:08 mrpeters accident in front of them, they were stopped, semi plowed them
13:08 mrpeters she was the only one hurt, and the only one wearing a seatbelt....go figure
13:08 mrpeters back seat
13:08 rfrasur indeed
13:08 rfrasur Well, I'm glad that yesterday was much less serious...but still hope she feels better soon.
13:18 mrpeters thank you!  she will appreciate that sentiment.
13:19 rfrasur :-)
13:23 jboyer-isl mrpeters: You take in the Klingon Opera too? heh.
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13:24 mrpeters lol nooo
13:24 mrpeters but i remember what its like down there on these weekends :)
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13:29 paxed evening
13:30 jboyer-isl Oddly enough, foot traffic at the library hasn't gone up. Shocker!
13:30 * rfrasur mumbles something about marketing and community engagement
13:32 jboyer-isl Also: research library. Not exactly big for tourism.
13:32 rfrasur it could be
13:32 jcamins jboyer-isl: "Original Star Trek manuscripts"?
13:32 rfrasur specially for game developers
13:32 mrpeters purchasing an SSL cert for Evergreen....Apache OpenSSL or MOD SSL?
13:32 jcamins The Bodleian is apparently a mecca for fans of the LotR.
13:33 jcamins They display facsimiles of Tolkien's original illustrations (the originals are kept locked up).
13:34 rfrasur that's pretty stinkin' awesome, I must say.
13:34 jcamins They're incredible.
13:34 * jcamins saw the originals, actually. :)
13:35 rfrasur the right connections? or the right moment?
13:35 rfrasur or both?
13:35 jcamins Both, but mostly the former.
13:38 rfrasur At the library I "grew up in," they had art that they lent.  I doubt it was particularly valuable and, from what I can remember, none of it was cool.
13:44 bshum mrpeters: My gut feeling is to say mod SSL, but I'm afraid I'm not the best resource.
13:44 mrpeters no worries
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13:44 bshum My quick googling tells me that mod_ssl is probably the right answer anyways.
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14:36 csharp @whocares reports
14:36 pinesol_green csharp and bshum hate reports
14:36 csharp reports_season--
14:37 rfrasur @hate oxford university press hardcovers
14:37 pinesol_green rfrasur: The operation succeeded.  rfrasur hates oxford university press hardcovers.
14:37 bshum @love pizza
14:37 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  bshum loves pizza.
14:37 jcamins rfrasur: over-expensive?
14:37 csharp I think I've created or troubleshot 12 to 15 templates in the past five days
14:37 rfrasur jcamins: yes
14:37 rfrasur and doggone it if one of our grumpiest but most generous patrons didn't request a book from them.
14:38 rfrasur csharp: you deserve the pizza that bshum loves so much
14:38 * csharp wishes true understanding of EG reports didn't require understanding of SQL/Postgres and the EG schema
14:38 mrpeters +1
14:38 csharp makes cross-training very difficult
14:39 kmlussier +1
14:39 rfrasur (of course, if I really thought anyone else would want to read "War from the Ground Up: 21st Century Combat as Politics," it wouldn't be a big deal)
14:39 JoeL_ Quick question... is there a way to disable case sensitivity for usernames in the opac interface?  I have access to the code and database, but our OILS users authenticate against LDAP which doesn't require case sensitivity, so the OPAC is causing a bit of confusion in that regard.
14:40 csharp yikes
14:40 rfrasur csharp:as in...needing to understand all the column names in a table...along with which table...and yeah...no
14:41 csharp JoeL_: I think your users are going to need to start paying attention to case :-/
14:41 csharp I haven't used LDAP - can you enforce case sensitivity there?
14:42 * csharp figures dbs probably knows
14:42 csharp rfrasur: exactly
14:42 JoeL_ On the LDAP side it can be enforced, I believe, but plenty of our users have been using different applications that don't require case sensitivity either, so enforcing that now would cause some problems
14:42 bshum Sounds like something jeff was trying to push on us awhile back :D
14:42 rfrasur csharp:If you ever decide to draw a map.....
14:43 JoeL_ the JSPAC could force it by altering one of the javascript functions, I believe, but since we switched to the tpac I'm not sure where an override for that would be.
14:43 jeff_ JoeL_: there is no quick way, but bshum is correct in that i support making usrname case insensitive. There are of course... potential challenges.
14:43 csharp rfrasur: I actually did a training in May about the "underpinnings" of EG reports and did a high-level overview of SQL and the schema
14:43 rfrasur (oh....and now she wants something from U of Minn Press)
14:44 rfrasur csharp: do you have the handouts/slides/whatevers still?
14:44 jeff_ JoeL_: if you're looking for a matter of "force all usrname input in the catalog to be lowercase", that should be do-able by inserting javascript into the templates to modify the user's input.
14:44 csharp rfrasur: I basically did it all with whiteboards, but we've talked about developing an online version
14:44 * bshum vaguely recalls challenge being how to handle cases where people have chosen usrnames that are similar to each other except in case.
14:44 bshum Or at least, the reason why I didn't support making said usrname changes quite yet.
14:44 rfrasur csharp: +1
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14:45 jeff_ JoeL_: that will of course break anyone who really does have an uppercase character in their username in the db -- and i do not know how it behaves in an ldap / authproxy setup.
14:45 csharp rfrasur: if we get that put together, I'll let you know
14:45 rfrasur rock on
14:45 rfrasur csharp++ #if is good enough right now
14:45 csharp csharp vs Csharp vs CsHaRp vs. cSharp
14:45 csharp yeesh
14:46 bshum csharp: The evil one for us was "mom" vs. "Mom" vs. "MOM" vs. whatever.
14:46 bshum :D
14:46 bshum Those lucky users would have to duke it out.
14:46 csharp heh "mom" - that's a hilarious username
14:46 csharp mom++
14:47 JoeL_ Yeah, we just limit users not to have usernames that close via ldap.
14:47 rfrasur (and now stinkin' YALE...for a smart lady, she doesn't seem to comprehend the correlation between pub lib, pub funding, prop tax, and scholastic publications)
14:47 JoeL_ is there a way to put an event listener into psql for calls against the actor.usr.usrname column?
14:48 phasefx JoeL_: you can put a trigger on the table to intercept and lowercase the usrname
14:49 phasefx http://www.postgresql.org/docs​/9.1/interactive/triggers.html
14:51 JoeL_ phasefx: you are awesome!  Thank you!  I'm thinking that if we pair this with a javascript call to lowercase the username inputs that'll be fine.
14:51 phasefx JoeL_: take a look http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergr​een.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/0​05.schema.actors.sql;h=4c6d156996f3c97​ce416d03bfe167712a4abe3d6;hb=HEAD#l105 for an example in EG
14:51 phasefx line 133 as well
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15:10 bshum @later tell dbs Might play around with adding opensearch back to TPAC sometime (someone was just asking about using it to plug in searches direct from Firefox earlier this week)
15:10 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
15:15 jcamins bshum: can't you add any URL as a search provider in FF, provided there is a parameter for the query?
15:15 jcamins No, apparently not.
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15:38 bshum jcamins: I ended up being lazy after a few minutes and put a plugin onto Firefox to let me lazily add a search bar entry for the main catalog.
15:38 bshum For fun reference: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/​firefox/addon/add-to-search-bar/
15:55 mcooper i'm having an issue with an impossible to find record via search in the staff client. can retrieve by tcn just fine. it's not deleted, has been reingested -- all the indexy pieces look good as far as i can tell. sound familiar to anyone?
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15:55 bshum mcooper: Impossible to find via other search means you mean?  Like keyword, title, author, etc.?
15:56 bshum My gut instinct is to check to see if there's a 901c entry
15:56 mcooper yes that's right
15:56 mcooper there is
15:56 bshum Which version of Evergreen is this?
15:56 jboyer-isl mcooper: does it have any accents/ diacritics, etc.?
15:56 mcooper 237
15:57 mcooper jboyer-isl: no, very straightforward title 'what alice forgot'
15:57 bshum There was once a bug where a bib that was deleted gets its metabib data removed and then resurrecting said bib didn't result in recreating the data.
15:57 bshum Not sure if we fixed it at the source
15:57 * bshum thought we did
15:58 bshum Ah, no
15:58 bshum Not yet.
15:58 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1091885
15:58 bshum Maybe?
15:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1091885 in Evergreen "Reingest bib needs to deal with missing metabib.record_attr entries" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Confirmed]
15:58 bshum If the entry is missing, it won't regenerate everything else properly.
15:59 mcooper oh, interesting i looked everywhere but record_attr so far
15:59 mcooper will investigate
15:59 bshum If it's not there, just throw some junk in it.  And then reingest the bib to properly recreate the data.
15:59 mcooper bshum++
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16:12 rfrasur alright, peace be w/ y'all.  off to take football tickets and then take eldest to college.
16:53 paxed oh ffs.
16:53 paxed thank you microsoft.
16:54 paxed apparently if the password is expiring, it just won't let you log on to the outlook web mail.
16:55 paxed oh hey, it's not like anyone could have any need to read their email during the weekend...
16:56 csharp paxed: use any excuse you can to get away from email!
16:56 csharp oh and...
16:56 csharp microsoft--
16:57 csharp @karma microsoft
16:57 pinesol_green csharp: Karma for "microsoft" has been increased 0 times and decreased 6 times for a total karma of -6.
16:57 paxed microsoft--
16:57 paxed well, i was going to catch up with some EG hacking during the weekend...
16:57 paxed especially because i'm at a summer cottage, and it's going to rain all day tomorrow.
16:57 csharp ah
16:58 csharp sounds like a good rainy day thing to do ;-)
17:06 paxed (not to mention all my eg mailing list/bug notification posts go to the email.
17:06 paxed )
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17:29 mrpeters anyone have a quick lesson on restricting Evergreen access by IP address?
17:30 mrpeters we can't get a hold of the network engineer for the library I'm upgrading to do it at the firewall
17:30 mrpeters i was hoping someone might have a nifty apache trick to IP restrict
17:30 mrpeters otherwise, i'll use my google fu, but thought i'd ask here first
17:31 mrpeters optimal scenario would be enable default config, throw up a maint. page and then ip restrict via eg_vhost.conf
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18:14 jcamins ~queryparser
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18:35 ldwhalen berick: I am going to start working on production of some sampel Acq data that can be loaded into a default configuration.  I am wondering if there is any time frame that I should be aware of as to when it might be needed.  I was told you might know.
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23:00 mrpeters anyone kicking around?   fighting jabber with 2.2.0
23:00 pastebot "mrpeters" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "jabber errors with OpenSRF 2.2.0" (11 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/20
23:02 mrpeters my ejabberd.cfg is perfect, passwords are correct, users are registered and confirmed correct in opensrf_core.xml
23:03 mrpeters will throw in this:
23:03 mrpeters =INFO REPORT==== 2013-08-16 22:00:11 ===
23:03 mrpeters I(<0.548.0>:ejabberd_listener:281) : (#Port<0.2151>) Accepted connection {{127,0,0,1},55820} -> {{127,0,1,2},5222}
23:03 mrpeters =INFO REPORT==== 2013-08-16 22:00:11 ===
23:03 mrpeters I(<0.710.0>:ejabberd_c2s:559) : ({socket_state,gen_tcp,#Port<0.2151>,<0.709.0>}) Failed legacy authentication for router@public.localhost/router
23:03 mrpeters =INFO REPORT==== 2013-08-16 22:00:11 ===
23:03 mrpeters I(<0.548.0>:ejabberd_listener:281) : (#Port<0.2153>) Accepted connection {{127,0,0,1},49429} -> {{127,0,1,3},5222}
23:03 mrpeters =INFO REPORT==== 2013-08-16 22:00:11 ===
23:03 mrpeters I(<0.712.0>:ejabberd_c2s:559) : ({socket_state,gen_tcp,#Port<0.2153>,<0.711.0>}) Failed legacy authentication for router@private.localhost/router
23:04 mrpeters ubuntu 12.04 fwiw
23:06 dbs localhost vs 127.0.0.1 in the config?
23:06 mrpeters dbs: ahhhh you know what maybe
23:06 mrpeters i vaguely recall that now
23:09 dbs ipv6 is sometimes annoying
23:09 mrpeters you did mean the ejabberd.cfg right?
23:10 dbs Yeah, just brainstorming the list of many possible things that can go wrong with ejabberd
23:10 dbs (jbfink was poking his eyes out a week or two back)
23:10 mrpeters should i change ALL instances of "localhost"
23:10 mrpeters yeah, its been a while since i installed opensrf from scratch....like....8 months now...geez
23:12 mrpeters %% Hostname
23:12 mrpeters {hosts, ["127.0.0.1", "private.localhost", "public.localhost"]}.
23:12 mrpeters if i recall...
23:12 dbs mine always say "{hosts, ["localhost","public.localho​st","private.localhost"]}."
23:12 mrpeters yeah, thats what im used to
23:13 mrpeters and what i had here
23:14 mrpeters i guess i could try moving away from localhost and using the actual FQDN
23:20 dbs Is this all on a single server?
23:21 dbs If it's multiple servers, then you'll want something other than localhost. Could be "hateejabberd", as long as it's defined in /etc/hosts
23:23 mrpeters yeah, single server
23:23 mrpeters switching to fqdn didnt make a difference
23:24 mrpeters hmm
23:24 mrpeters =INFO REPORT==== 2013-08-16 22:23:10 ===
23:24 mrpeters I(<0.642.0>:ejabberd_c2s:517) : ({socket_state,gen_tcp,#Port<0.2076>,<0.641.0>}) Accepted legacy authentication for opensrf@private.portal.ci.killeen.tx.us/opensrf.pers​ist_drone_at_KPL-EVG.ci.killeen.tx.us_21323 by ejabberd_auth_internal
23:24 mrpeters thats some progress
23:24 mrpeters but opensrf router.log still errors
23:25 pastebot "mrpeters" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "more jabber crap" (11 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/21
23:26 mrpeters so, this feels like opensrf failing somehow....hrm
23:27 mrpeters i just can't find anything about this auth code 401 and jabber
23:27 mrpeters or IQ packet not authorized
23:27 dbs almost every time something like this comes up, it seems like opensrf_core.xml config got mangled
23:27 mrpeters yeah?
23:27 mrpeters ill copy from example and start fresh
23:27 mrpeters worth a shot
23:27 dbs 401 = HTTP 401 Unauthorized
23:28 mrpeters apache not running a problem?
23:28 mrpeters i didnt think it had to be for just doing the opensrf smoke test
23:28 dbs no, just explaining where the "401" came from
23:28 mrpeters right on, thanks.  i didn't realize it was http related
23:28 dbs it's not, really. just trying to use familiar error codes.
23:29 dbs essentially, either the password isn't correct, or private.blah isn't allowed to connect to public.blah
23:29 mrpeters right on, i really appreciate the advice
23:29 mrpeters especially at 11:30 on a friday
23:30 * mrpeters 's brain has been washed with too much Windows and not enough Evergreen!
23:30 mrpeters the last 6 months
23:33 mrpeters dbs++
23:33 mrpeters guess it got mangled after all
23:34 dbs yay
23:34 mrpeters wooo! i've never been so happy to add 2+2 before
23:34 mrpeters now i can treat myself to dinner....
23:35 mrpeters have a wonderful weekend dan
23:36 mrpeters miss yall over here
23:41 dbs miss you too!
23:52 dbs @later tell bshum yeah, dropping "<link type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" rel='search' title="Evergreen" href="[% ctx.opac_root %]/extras/opensearch/1.1/-/osd.xml" />" into base.tt2 is easy enough, but the OSD doesn't seem to be getting returned. Hrm.
23:52 pinesol_green dbs: The operation succeeded.
23:54 dbs @later tell bshum Oh, because I'm an idiot and ctx.opac_root is /eg/opac, not /opac. Duh.
23:54 pinesol_green dbs: The operation succeeded.

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