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Results for 2023-07-22

12:01 Dyrcona It can't download to gvfs mounted location.
12:03 Dyrcona I may have to seriously consider switching distros.
12:24 Dyrcona Maybe I'll switch back to FreeBSD on the desk....erm laptop?
12:33 Dyrcona 3.9.4 is basically ready. I need to test it.
12:38 Dyrcona Heh, Listening to Def Leppard while doing this takes me back to when I first started programming on Commodore and Apple computers....
12:42 Dyrcona @decide new vm or focal
12:42 pinesol Dyrcona: go with new vm
12:43 Dyrcona Thanks for your opinion, pinesol, but I'm going to override that answer. :)
13:18 * Dyrcona wonders if some of our tests still depend on undefined behavior. I find that live_t/29-lp1817645-remoteauth-patron-api.t seems to fail and then succeed later.
13:19 Dyrcona Hmm cover uploader failed, too. I ran autogen.sh.....
13:20 Dyrcona Pretty sure that I restarted apache2... I'll try again.
13:26 Dyrcona Nope: Failed test 'Basic request for external user correctly returned 403'  at live_t/29-lp1817645-remoteauth-patron-api.t line 137.         got: '502'    expected: '403'
13:27 Dyrcona So, nginx or apache config is botched?
13:29 Dyrcona OK. figured it out.
13:31 Dyrcona Forgot to change the ports in the eg.conf VirtualHost entries.
13:35 Dyrcona I think we neglect the Apache ports in the configuration instructions.
13:38 Dyrcona And, live_t/30-lp1508208-age-protect-hold-capture.t fails on me for like the first time ever.
13:38 * Dyrcona mumbles something about Micky Mouse.
13:41 Dyrcona Meh. Feels like I'm the only one who runs all the tests for releases. I'll "release" it anyway.
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14:35 Dyrcona So I guess things are missing from the 3.9.4 release notes because things were backported that should not have been. If someone else wants to fix the release notes, feel free. I'm done.
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Results for 2023-07-21

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11:09 Bmagic testing 3.10.3 tarball
11:36 Bmagic test is good, making 3.11 now
11:41 sandbergja Bmagic++
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11:53 sharpsie Bmagic++
12:40 sharpsie well now you have to admit it!
12:40 * mmorgan was thinking the same thing!
12:41 Dyrcona I overwrote the authorized_keys file for a user on a server, but I can probably just copy another user's file on top of it.
12:42 sharpsie this one time, I removed /usr from a running server - that was a fun test of our backup capabilities
12:43 berick this one time... in band camp...
12:43 sharpsie berick: almost said that
12:43 sharpsie their band camp sounds way more fun that ours was IRL
12:49 sharpsie Dyrcona++
12:49 Dyrcona I was being clever and doing a keyscan on a new host for a vendor, and I redirected the output to the wrong file.
12:50 sharpsie in other news, joining the MS-ISAC alert lists has made me very glad I'm not administering big proprietary things like Citrix stuff
12:51 Bmagic testing 3.11.1
13:19 Bmagic 3.11.11 good, publishing on our site
13:29 Bmagic ok yall, new tarballs for 3.10.3 and 3.11.1 are on the page, complete with release notes and changelog and readme's. The last step would be to commit the tag branches to the main repo: collab/blake/tags/rel_3_11_1 and collab/blake/tags/rel_3_10_3 . Anyone around to evaluate/push those?
13:31 Dyrcona Bmagic++
13:41 Dyrcona I'll take a look at the tag branches.
13:49 Dyrcona Has anyone done a release announcement?
14:02 terranm Trying to wrap my head around the basic concept of creating a new table (student_card.school) that can be edited from the server admin page. I have a script to create it and I've added it to the fieldmapper (class id="scs") and it's appearing, but when I navigate to the page I get an error with this in the logs: "Method [open-ils.pcrud.search.scs]
14:02 terranm not found for service open-ils.pcrud"  -- any thoughts? My test code is here: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=56ae78​eed93c8dbe7040db543d75e796a1d3737f
14:05 Dyrcona terranm: I'm pretty sure that an object with a pcrud controller needs a permacrud block, even if it is mostly empty.
14:06 terranm Ooooh, thanks I'll try that!
14:13 terranm Dyrcona++ that solved that error, thanks!

Results for 2023-07-19

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08:59 mantis Morning.  Tried to start a reingest on our test server with 3.11 installed and got back an error.  https://pastebin.com/Kv6tHz4m
08:59 mantis any advice appreciated
09:00 mantis ERROR:  index row size 3136 exceeds maximum 2712 for index "browse_entry_sort_value_value_key" HINT:  Values larger than 1/3 of a buffer page cannot be indexed. Consider a function index of an MD5 hash of the value, or use full text indexi
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10:51 sharpsie so, yeah, the same
10:54 sharpsie argh - I hate when there's no record of changes - apparently whatever that index is was added out-of-band
10:54 mantis alright at least we know that
10:55 sharpsie mantis: nevertheless, eeevil's suggestion should help - basically it's saying "however long the actual value is, truncate it after 1000 chars"
10:56 sharpsie mantis: is this in a test environment or live?
10:56 mantis test environment
10:56 sharpsie good :-)
10:58 mantis haha
10:58 sharpsie in a test environment that no one else depends on, you can be cavalier
10:59 sharpsie the "safe" way to create/drop indexes on a live server is usually to create the new index with "concurrently" which doesn't lock the table and make everyone miserable
11:00 sharpsie then drop the "old" index (again, with "concurrently")
11:02 sharpsie in this case though, you can DROP INDEX CONCURRENTLY browse_entry_sort_value_value_key; since it is apparently unnecessary?
11:04 sharpsie then DROP INDEX CONCURRENTLY browse_entry_sort_value_idx; CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY browse_entry_sort_value_idx ON metabib.browse_entry USING BTREE (substring(sort_value from 1 for 1000)); (completely untested, just following substr docs)
11:59 sharpsie Dyrcona: might be a different bug, but worth looking at for future generations' sakes
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13:05 eeevil mantis / sharpsie / Dyrcona / jeff / jeffdavis: sorry, meetings and then lunch! glad you found the old bug, a bell was ringing... berick has a reasonable plan in that older bug, but one key to keep in mind is making sure that we can find duplicates quickly, as that's core to the browse phase of ingest. so, large dataset testing is necessary for this one, and ingest function changes might be needed. the configuration-offered fix of using substr() to
13:05 eeevil cap the length can retain the existing infrastructure (that's we're confident works) and can be automated in the upgrade script by just applying the normalizer to extant browse fields, but will require thought when adding new browse fields locally as Dyrcona implies via "fix it for everyone". I'd personally prefer avoiding encoding low level implementation restrictions in the indexing, but display-field truncation is something to consider as a trade
13:05 eeevil off there.
13:26 sharpsie eeevil: 10-4
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14:48 jeff Dyrcona: there are various tricks for doing that, especially if you don't care which row you keep. Most involve using ctid. :-)
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14:54 sharpsie like "Circ report (clone) (clone) (clone) (clone) (clone)"
15:09 jeffdavis wondering if there should be a way for certain users to be able to bypass MFA - like consortial support staff logging in with a Circ Desk Staff account at BR1 for support/testing purposes without having to use whatever second auth factor that would normally require
15:10 jeff arguably that should be a different account.
15:11 jeff but yes, that's just one of a pile of questions that remain to be addressed. :-)
15:12 jeffdavis yeah I'm sure we'll come up with more headaches^Wuse cases to think about
15:14 jeff including determining some hard guidelines around what requires a user to use MFA to auth (home_ou, any working location requiring MFA, workstation OU? other?), and given a user that does not require MFA, are they prevented from logging in in any scenarios, like with a workstation tied to an org unit that does require MFA, etc?
15:28 Dyrcona MFA for everyone.
15:30 Dyrcona jeff: On my delete thing from earlier, I'm just going to delete the 3 rows and then insert the data back once. (That's easy enough.) I'll then add a unique constraint. I've tested it, and it works.
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Results for 2023-07-18

15:10 mmorgan Bmagic++
15:10 Bmagic #topic OpenSRF
15:11 Bmagic Nothing on the agenda, but if anyone has anything please go ahead
15:11 berick one thing..
15:12 berick https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2017941 -- thanks to Dyrcona for testing.  testing going well so far.  additional testing of course appreciated
15:12 pinesol Launchpad bug 2017941 in OpenSRF "Migrate from Ejabberd to Redis for OpenSRF Messaging" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
15:12 berick i've addressed the known issues, so we need more known issues! :)
15:13 Bmagic tasty!
15:13 Bmagic Anyone want to make themselves actionable for testing?
15:14 Bmagic alrighty, thanks berick. Anything else?
15:14 berick nope, thanks
15:14 Bmagic #topic Evergreen

Results for 2023-07-10

13:28 rfrasur (doobley-doo, hehe)
13:28 Dyrcona And, page 2 works..... :/
13:29 Dyrcona But... page 2 in this case has the entry for one of the books that shows up in browse search.
13:31 Dyrcona It seems like every other time I reload test databases from a production dump search is broken.
13:52 Dyrcona For the record, even browse is broken on one copy of production.
13:58 Dyrcona Also, pingest is a lot faster on 3.7 than on 3.10.
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Results for 2023-07-05

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13:33 Dyrcona Hmm. I seem to be getting random live test failures on Ubuntu 22.04 with user/berick/lp2017941-opensrf-on-redis-v2 and PostgreSQL 15. I ran livecheck, and the neg balances test failed. I ran eg_db_config, restarted things, and ran livecheck again. This time the geosort test failed.
13:34 berick Dyrcona: i'm assuming stock eg/osrf on pg15 does not have these issues?  i mostly tested with pg 14.
13:36 Dyrcona berick: Well, it didn't have these issues with the same branch last week or the week before. I have seen the neg balance test fail on the first try, and succeed on the second in the past.
13:37 Dyrcona I.E., the neg balance test has been finicky.
13:38 Dyrcona I'm going for a 3rd try to see if anything is different.
13:41 Dyrcona Right. All passed this time.
13:41 Dyrcona :/
13:47 Dyrcona I'll test stock main on a different Ubuntu 22.04 vm talking to the same pg 15 database server.
13:59 Dyrcona Hm.. This one appears to have frozen up while installing prerequisites.
14:03 Dyrcona Looks like it finally finished installing prerequisites for OpenSRF.
14:46 mantis I'm starting a new blog on all the mistakes I'm going to make as a sys admin: openseedsforme.wordpress.com
15:30 mmorgan If I tried to chronicle all my mistakes, I would never succeed with anything :)
15:31 mmorgan sharpsie: Your blog is telling me it's open only to invited readers.
15:47 * Dyrcona used to blog, too, but time....
15:48 Dyrcona All right, I finally ran livecheck on stock main with ubuntu 22.04 and pg 15, and a bunch of tests failed. I'm pretty sure I did everything correctly, but I might have missed some setup step.
15:50 * Dyrcona tries again.
15:54 Dyrcona I wonder if there's some network issues going on where my VMs are hosted?
15:56 Dyrcona Ok. I think my apache or some other configuration is busted for the moment. I looked at the output of the auth api test and it's getting 500, not 403, so internal server error. Apache and nginx are running, though.
16:09 jeff makelivecheck || make undeadcheck
16:09 jeff er, only without the typo.
16:12 sharpsie mmorgan: try again if you want
16:12 sharpsie apparently made it private way back then since I was nervous about people seeing it
16:17 mmorgan sharpsie++
16:25 Dyrcona Hmm... Didn't change anything, and geosort is failing.
16:25 Dyrcona The tests are being erratic for me today.
16:27 Dyrcona RE Blogs, here's mine: http://evergreen.sigio.com/
16:32 berick and mine :) https://chomp.dev/
16:36 Dyrcona And, all tests pass this time....
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Results for 2023-06-30

13:28 mantis can anyone name an example of using 'on reservation shelf'
13:33 mmorgan mantis: I believe that status is used by the Booking module.
13:34 mantis ok I thought so but wasn't sure thanks
13:56 Dyrcona Cool! I can test the impact of an index from a development branch on an update that I'm about to run. I have 1 database with the index and another without it.
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15:51 Dyrcona I can't find any references to OrgTree.js in any of the current client and OPAC files. Is this file still used, or was it just for XUL?

Results for 2023-06-27

12:52 Dyrcona Doesn't xact_begin start a new session if there isn't one? Could the session have gone away, but the drone not know it?
12:56 berick Dyrcona: that's what i'm thinking.  the session timed out while compiling the template, it then tried to send a BEGIN on a disconnected session.
12:57 Bmagic it almost has to be
12:57 berick and it didn't know it was disconnected because no recv() / queue_wait calls occurred before the "am I still connected" test in editor's xact_begin() sub.
12:57 Dyrcona I'd still check the database logs for anything weird around that time.
12:58 Bmagic db logs don't have anything interesting around that time
12:58 Bmagic lots of " WARNING:  there is no transaction in progress"
12:59 Dyrcona Well, that's a bummer.
13:00 Bmagic we do have a clear log that says "No request was received in 6 seconds, exiting stateful session"  - so, I wouldn't expect that the postgres service would have expierenced an error
13:06 Dyrcona Can you tell if that's for the same cstore drone/process?
13:13 * Dyrcona just added 64 tests to live_t/20-hold-targeter.t.
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13:25 * Dyrcona wishes there was a decent way to test the pull list from the backend, but the results are not predictable enough.
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13:38 Bmagic sorry guys, I was pulled away, now, I'm back at it
13:38 * Dyrcona is switching internet connections.
13:46 Bmagic now I'm getting hits, to answer the question about what the action trigger logs look like above* the 6 second timeout line
13:47 Dyrcona OK. I was going to suggest using -F on the grep or zgrep, or even eliminating the second grep and try the timestamp via zgrep.
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13:54 * Dyrcona considers adding more tests... but needs to refresh his memory on making cstore requests from srfsh.
13:54 Bmagic berick: RE: "between 08:47:07 and 08:47:13 or thereabouts" https://pastebin.com/8agDcMnX
13:55 Bmagic the event ID that I'm tracking: 123020652
13:59 Bmagic do we start the transaction (the one that we're going to use to write the output to the database), and then* start generating the template? Leaving that transaction open for the duration?
14:08 Bmagic It does succeed most of the time
14:08 Bmagic I was just curious about this time
14:09 Dyrcona Yeah. It happens more often than one would like.
14:19 Dyrcona Well, I think that's enough tests. We can always add more later.
14:25 berick oddly it tries to create the transaction after it's compiled the template.  "trigger: writing 3273 bytes to template output" happens after template compilation.
14:26 berick then cstore sends a bunch of stuff back after the begin.  that part I don't get.
14:43 Dyrcona Eighteen commits rebased down to 1, and I'm ready to share the code...
15:04 Dyrcona I suppose we have functional tests for the staff client that can be run. I guess I should learn how those work.
15:11 * eeevil reads up and sees Bmagic's adventure... ah yes, a Very Expensive Template Output (esp a grouped set of expensive events) could take longer than the session keepalive time (configured in opensrf.xml, per service) and it does look like that. the fast fix is to increase the keepalive time. I know of EG instances that have in the past had a timeout of 12s (slower hardware, and before some code changes lowered the timeout risk), but I don't see
15:11 * eeevil any currently. if it's right at the edge of the time limit, that'd give breathing room to figure out where we need to insert more interaction and avoid that particular session timeout in A/T land.
15:19 Bmagic eeevil++ berick++ Dyrcona++ mmorgan++ # thanks for the ideas. timeout 6 > 12 seems easy enough. What's the drawback? Tying up more Drones, and running up against max_children?

Results for 2023-06-23

09:43 berick Dyrcona: i've had similar thoughts lately re: merging opensrf because of this project.  there's quite a bit of duplicated effort.
09:43 berick Dyrcona: yes, those are the correct branches.
09:43 Dyrcona berick: Thanks.
09:44 berick Dyrcona++ # testing
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10:33 * Dyrcona hasn't done much today. I've been mucking about with UNIX account configuration.
10:40 StomproJ oclc--
13:47 Dyrcona berick: For practicing rust locally would your recommend installing the rust-all apt package or going with rustup?
13:48 Dyrcona s/your/you/
13:48 berick Dyrcona: either works.  i've mostly used rust-all.
13:49 Dyrcona Ok. I was thinking of going with rustup on my laptop for newer features, etc. I installed rust-all on the Ubuntu 22 vm where I'm testing redis. I'll give universe-rs a whirl later.
13:50 Dyrcona I'm rerunning the perl live tests because I forgot to start apache2, so the tests that depended on Apache failed...
13:51 Dyrcona Looks good so far
14:23 Dyrcona I notice that gmcharlt is (righly) concerned about the universe-rs pulling in 167 crates. However, npm pulls in almost 1390 packages in Open-ILS/src/eg2. That should be a concern, too, no?
14:23 Dyrcona Where are my fingers today?.... Must Typoday....

Results for 2023-06-22

10:20 Dyrcona That's much safer than setting a flag in actor.usr.
10:21 Dyrcona My second promised email about our rusty future might go into some detail about issues I have with the current staff client, but I might save that for yet another email.
10:21 Dyrcona I have examples of bad API design and even worse use or bypassing of existing API.
10:22 berick we have exactly 2 accounts w/ superuser.  one for logging in/testing/etc and one a backend utility account.  not following the use case where a standard human person would get superuser.
10:24 jeff seconding deprecation and possibly eventual removal of actor.usr.superuser, if only for simplicity and for the sake of having permissions in fewer places.
10:24 Dyrcona berick: Doesn't matter if you don't get it. Doesn't mean it's wrong. When someone is on the phone wanting something fixed, that permission comes in handy.
10:25 jeff and yes, both EVERYTHING and superuser should be rarely handed out / relied upon.
10:34 jeff csharp_: that "unless" bit around the check_perms call is because check_perms returns undef on success. if the return value is truthy, it means that the user doesn't have the perm. it's... perhaps less than intuitive.
10:35 csharp_ jeff: ah - out of context it was really throwing me
10:35 Dyrcona Another unpopular opinion: I think we should ditch Perl for the back end (other than utility scripts).
10:36 jeff Dyrcona: I don't object to PL/pgSQL functions being used to test "does this user have this perm at X location" and such. It seems efficient and not an egregious "that doesn't BELONG in the database!" kind of thing.
10:36 csharp_ Dyrcona: preview of your "rusty" email? :-)
10:36 Dyrcona csharp_: yes, but I'll have to write it. It might take me a few more days.
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Results for 2023-06-21

09:51 Dyrcona ACSpike: There was an attempt to make an OpenSRF library in PHP some years ago as part of Google Summer of Code: https://github.com/pranjal710/osrf
09:52 Dyrcona It has a Fieldmapper.php module that you might be able to crib to get started in that direction.
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10:07 Dyrcona rhamby: One of the problems with developing something to fix stuck events is mimicking the stuck event data in a test database.
10:08 rhamby yep
10:12 Dyrcona Also, I wish I still had the query from the last time that I fixed grouped events. I don't remember what I ran to get the grouped event ids to fire them again, and recreating it a couple of months later is not so easy.
10:13 Dyrcona I suspect that I had to dig into the hook and a few other things.

Results for 2023-06-16

10:25 Dyrcona Redirecting both stderr and stdout to /dev/null in cron is kind of a bad idea. You have no way of knowing when it fails that way.
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10:41 Dyrcona Turns out this rabbit hole is a warren.... I keep finding other things I should fix.
10:42 Dyrcona Including the set up and host name of one of my test vms.
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11:41 gmcharlt mantis1++
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Results for 2023-06-14

11:04 mmorgan Cool!
11:04 Dyrcona Yeah, thanks.
11:05 mantis1 Dyrcona++
11:07 gmcharlt Dyrcona==
11:07 gmcharlt er
11:08 gmcharlt Dyrcona++
11:14 gmcharlt if you give a mouse a cookie^W^W^W^W GitHub Actions a commit...
11:14 gmcharlt anyway, the GitHub-based automatic tests are now happy again
11:14 pinesol News from commits: fix title of 3.11.0 release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c52cb​5dfef7485f4bec742c2a431c35b39d6c58>
11:15 pinesol News from commits: LP#2023582 - 3.11.0 release notes - remove redundant section <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba9550​376925919ddab361b4b9f918fd8f5b66f7>
11:15 pinesol News from commits: LP#2023582: Update RELEASE_NOTES_3_11.adoc - formatting fixes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=500b04​d7a729d30bc87b66aafe53d52220163256>
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13:45 jvwoolf Anybody have an issue with Perl modules not getting installed correctly with 3.9.3?
13:45 jvwoolf We've installed it a few times over the past few weeks (including for our production system) but seem to be having issues with the install on 2 different test servers today.
13:58 JBoyer jvwoolf, any OS upgrades in the mix there?
13:59 JBoyer (Like 20.04 -> 22.04, not 20.04.9 -> 20.04.10)
14:13 jeff jvwoolf: can you say more about what the issues/symptoms are? are there errors at "make install" time, or something else?
15:10 jvwoolf I know I did everything right this time on the server I'm working on and I'm getting the same error on make check
15:11 jvwoolf @bartender mantis1
15:11 * pinesol fills a pint glass with Ommegang Witte, and sends it sliding down the bar to mantis1 (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/42/16506/)
15:13 jeff Above the "Test Summary Report" should be a collection of more specific/detailed error messages. Often times I like to start with the first one, though it's not guaranteed to be the clue that leads to a solution. :-)
15:14 Dyrcona jvwoolf: Is this a virtual machine?
15:15 jvwoolf Dyrcona: Yes
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15:17 Dyrcona I'd destroy it and start over. The output from your find commands suggests that it has been upgraded from Ubuntu 16 to 18 to 20.
15:19 jvwoolf Dyrcona: That's the case with all of our test VMs at this point
15:20 jvwoolf This is the only one that's decided to be a PITA
15:25 Dyrcona Try this one: find /usr -name Logger.pm
15:28 * Dyrcona was just wondering why my database was missing indexes, and then realized I was checking the wrong schema.
15:28 Dyrcona No asset.copy indexes in the actor schema!
15:29 jeff based on that output, my next suggestion would be perl -c /usr/local/share/perl/5.30​.0/OpenSRF/Utils/Logger.pm
15:30 Dyrcona Yeahp. What jeff said.
15:30 Dyrcona Probably a busted module somewhere.
15:32 jeff (but I also think we may be using the output of paste gKQdDQSz ("the start error") to debug a different machine, so that may not be helpful.)
15:33 jeff the errors from "make check" that occurred before the Test Summary Report are my best suggestion at the moment.
15:33 jvwoolf jeff: Yes, sorry for the noise on that one
15:33 jvwoolf It was just a coincidence that they were both getting Perl-related errors at the same time
15:34 jvwoolf /usr/local/share/perl/5.30​.0/OpenSRF/Utils/Logger.pm syntax OK
16:42 pinesol Launchpad bug 1904737 in Evergreen "Flag/setting for Items with Specific Statuses to Display on Holds Pull List" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904737 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
16:43 Dyrcona I think I'll see what happens with the current query using that index and dropping the cp_available... index.
16:43 Dyrcona I'll bet it's faster.
16:47 Dyrcona Yeah... On my test system performance is comparable to the modified query and just slightly faster than the previous cp_available_by_circ_lib_idx.  Going to modify the queries to include "deleted is false" to force the is false index to be used. Maybe drop the circ with status code index, too.
16:49 Dyrcona Heh. It's using both indexes when they are there.
16:49 Dyrcona oops. It's the index on serial.unit that I'm seeing...
16:53 Dyrcona To be fair, I should probably loop these variations thousands of times and average them out, and they will likely all be comparable, i.e. within a fraction of a second of each other.

Results for 2023-06-13

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09:24 mantis1 Found this error when running autoreconf -i for our 3.11.0 test server install
09:24 mantis1 autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
09:24 mantis1 I think this was related to a makefile when I saw it before, but it's been some time
09:32 gmcharlt mantis1: what Linux distribution?
09:40 pinesol News from commits: LP2019735 Fix Bootstrap5 checkbox borders <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e62173​478e9e509f3f8c225b4ea262e0ffb18dfa>
09:41 mantis1 gmcharlt: I figured it out
10:11 pinesol News from commits: LP#1996818 Issues Placing Holds from the Patron Record <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a2af7​843d2db0440ffb3b0fe4c59e3157af35f9>
10:11 Dyrcona That might have been the problem. Whenever you do a major version upgrade of Evergreen, it's best to delete the node files in /usr/local/ and to do a `git clean -x -f -d` in your local Evergreen repository to remove any old files.
10:14 mantis1 Dyrcona: I have the code prep and scripts done.  Is it possible to run these now or does it need to be done at a specific time during the code prep?
10:16 Dyrcona mantis1: They should be done before you do anything else. You will probably be OK, because we don't change Node versions that often. I do the git clean -x -f -d from time to time to clean things up on my dev systems particularly if I'm switching release versions or about to test big changes,
10:18 Dyrcona I've had weird issues after doing an installation that going back and doing the node deletion or a git clean and reinstalling has fixed.
10:54 Dyrcona @blame Apple
10:54 pinesol Dyrcona: Apple is really just another name for autogen
15:05 berick Dyrcona++
15:05 Bmagic #info RUST timeline
15:05 Bmagic berick: I threw this on the agenda because it was bare. Feel free to tell me to move on
15:06 berick well...
15:06 berick not much so say on the Rust side at this point.  kind of waiting/hoping others will get interested and join the momentum
15:06 berick i did at this https://github.com/kcls/evergreen​-universe-rs/blob/main/PRIMER.md
15:06 berick tiny primer
15:07 berick i think the bigger question now is more about the Redis stuff, which has been decoupled from Rust now
15:07 berick and is ready for wider testing
15:07 Dyrcona berick++
15:07 Bmagic oh! berick++
15:07 Dyrcona I'll take a look.
15:16 berick so, it's a long game
15:17 jeffdavis kind of works as a roadmap though - there's some time to get up to speed on Rust while Redis dev continues, then ramp up with Rust once the Redis stuff is in main?
15:18 berick jeffdavis: yeah, pretty much
15:18 Bmagic I'm sure more discussions will be had, we can table it. Good to know that berick has Redis up for testing sans Rust!
15:18 Bmagic berick++ # for good measure
15:18 jeffdavis yeah, really excited for Redis and hoping the Rust interest takes off
15:18 JBoyer berick++
15:31 jeff i've no strong opinion either way on one-channel or many-channels, but support having a list of "official" project channels and making logs more readily available for those channels.
15:32 Bmagic hmmm, it's public as far as I know. The security stuff wouldn't be there (correct me if I'm wrong releaseers)
15:33 Dyrcona It's public, but it is not logged by the bots.
15:33 jeff sleary: I think the reason you can't see the channel in your IRC client is the same reason you wouldn't be able to see this channel if you weren't already in it: the channels are +s ("secret") to avoid being listed in the commands that spam bots use, etc. Something we did long ago, and could test removing if folk think +s is causing more trouble than its worth.
15:33 Bmagic I mean, the chatter is public
15:34 jeff I mention the above because I'm happy to be the one to set up logging / join the bots / list the channels on the wiki or web page / toggle channel modes as needed / etc.
15:34 Bmagic so, shall we remove it?
16:16 Dyrcona It might be a while before others see the change.
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16:51 jeff gmcharlt: in a recent comment on bug 1483496 you mentioned "evergreen.change_db_setting() will be removed shortly" -- I'm wondering if there's additional context to that? I've no objection, just curiosity.
16:51 pinesol Launchpad bug 1483496 in Evergreen "evergreen.change_db_setting needs test" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483496
16:52 gmcharlt jeff: a pending security fix
16:52 jeff ah. :-)
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12:39 javier_guel right?
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13:03 Stompro javier_guel, yep, all that does is remove the reingest from the end and run it a little differently.
13:03 Stompro Sorry for the delay, I'm working on my own test upgrade to 3.11 now also.
13:05 javier_guel no problem, I will try, thanks for your help
13:09 Stompro javier_guel, you could also add "\timing on" to the top of the -run.sql file to output how long each statement takes.
13:09 javier_guel great, let me add, it, thanks

Results for 2023-06-06

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08:11 PhilMakesStuff This is a test message to see if I am posting in the correct channel
08:12 PhilMakesStuff Quick question: I was wondering if evergreen has a Voluntary Product Accessibility Template (VPAT)?
08:13 PhilMakesStuff We will need this in order for our organization to use Evergreen
08:23 JBoyer Hi PhilMakesStuff , that sounds familiar but you may have more luck getting responses on the Evergreen general email lists as IRC activity is pretty irregular.
16:00 javier_guel great thanks, i will try
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17:31 dmoore hey all - any thoughts on this API note published on EBSCO's Novelist page - https://connect.ebsco.com/s/article/S​etting-up-On-The-Shelf?language=en_US
17:32 dmoore "Note: There is an Evergreen API that supports automatic harvesting of your collection. However, we were unable to obtain a complete harvest for any customers during the testing of this functionality, as Evergreen’s Web Services API was not built for such a wide-scale application. We discourage Evergreen customers from utilizing this feature for collection harvesting."
17:32 csharp_ dmoore: we don't use it in PINES, but anecdotally, I've heard from sites who do that the harvesting can eat into available server resources
17:33 berick hah, yeah, IIRC, they were madly spewing api calls
17:33 csharp_ dmoore: we sent a monthly upload to NoveList so they can reference it offline

Results for 2023-06-05

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16:18 Dyrcona Well, it's kind of hard to test something that requires searching in the catalog when your search results don't display.
16:18 Dyrcona Oh, wait. They're showing up 1 by 1 now.
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Results for 2023-06-03

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13:32 csharp_ not expecting anyone to be around, but I'm experimenting with storing settings data as JSONB in postgres (in a non-production table on a non-production test server) because I'm interested in being able to edit the JSON without regexp_replace nonsense
13:32 csharp_ wondering if eeevil or others have ever considered the benefits/drawbacks of just storing our JSON as JSON/B
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14:55 jeff yeah, i wouldn't recommend regexp_replace to edit json, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to use JSONB.
14:56 Dyrcona I'd pull it out with Perl or Python and use a JSON library to modify it, probably.

Results for 2023-05-27

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08:50 ahazaril Hi! I'm trying to do Batch MARC Import in Evergreen 3.11 RC on my test server
08:51 ahazaril but it seems error like this:
08:51 ahazaril ERROR TypeError: r.id is not a function
08:51 ahazaril at Object.next (5959.1f96455ba4311aeb.js:1:14565)
08:51 ahazaril at De.next (main.a07a83aabf044c34.js:3:39334)
08:51 ahazaril at Re._next (main.a07a83aabf044c34.js:3:39003)
08:51 ahazaril at Re.next (main.a07a83aabf044c34.js:3:38689)
08:51 ahazaril at x.dispatchResponse (main.a07a83aabf044c34.js:3:14786)
08:51 ahazaril at OpenSRF.Request.onresponse (main.a07a83aabf044c34.js:3:14057)
08:51 ahazaril at OpenSRF.Stack.handle_message (opensrf.js:748:28)
08:51 ahazaril at OpenSRF.Stack.push (opensrf.js:693:23)
08:51 ahazaril at OpenSRF.websocketConnection.onmessage (opensrf.js:388:23)
08:51 ahazaril at socket.onmessage [as __zone_symbol__ON_PROPERTYmessage] (opensrf_ws.j
08:51 ahazaril Vandelay file uploaded OK with key f114583e2c27f43954f487556c7816fe
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11:45 jeffdavis ahazaril: those look like errors in the browser console, are there any related error messages in the server logs?
12:07 ahazaril which log file i need to view jeffdavis?
12:33 ahazaril hahaha its ok, i forgot also to report a bug in Launchpad before
12:34 jeffdavis I've reported it now, bug 2021402
12:34 pinesol Launchpad bug 2021402 in Evergreen "Default Vandelay import folder is not readable by opensrf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2021402
12:36 jeffdavis Hope the rest of your testing goes well! :)
12:36 ahazaril tq so much pinesol!
12:36 ahazaril tq jeffdavis!

Results for 2023-05-26

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09:24 JBoyer FYI! The scheduled 3.11.0 release date is Tuesday and I see no bug reports against the RC. (There are some bugs targeting 3.11.0 that shouldn't really be, but that's it)
09:24 JBoyer The Friday before a long weekend is the wrong time to beat this particular drum, but if you want to test the RC now's the time!
09:24 JBoyer Also, have a good weekend.
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Results for 2023-05-24

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12:37 berick hm, cannot get nginx to cache stuff.  cache dir remains empty.  any nginx users, thoughts?  https://gist.github.com/berick/1​fd87074c66d3367926d5d67fe76f48e
12:39 csharp_ berick: maybe root owning the parent directory affects it?
12:43 berick this works OK:  sudo -u www-data touch /var/cache/nginx/test
12:43 berick ditto: sudo -u www-data ls -al /var/cache/nginx/
13:20 Dyrcona berick: Where do you tell nginx what directory to use for cache?
13:21 berick Dyrcona: top of my paste.  just above the server { } block
13:21 berick also tried in the nginx.conf file

Results for 2023-05-23

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08:16 JBoyer Evergreen 3.11.0-rc1 is up and announced. To testing!
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09:27 JBoyer Bmagic, are you involved in the docs auto-build for docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/ ? It looks like it was unhappy with something recently and all of the docs are gone.
09:29 JBoyer Ooor, since it's CNAME'd to a gpls system, csharp_ ?
10:08 JBoyer I also mean they may be things that we need to document (ha...) about how best to do formatting on this or that page level, etc. I did some experimenting to try to silence the "level 0 blah blah book" error that latency.adoc is throwing and apparently could not make the thing happy.
10:09 JBoyer Though it occurs to me it may have tried building multiple versions even though I was in the rel_3_11 branch and I was only looking at 1 copy (and not committing the changes...)
10:09 JBoyer I need to re-familiarize myself with the whole process apparently. :)
10:49 jvwoolf TIL that if you set the intenal flag ingest.force_on_same_marc to true your metarecords seem to remap themselves without kicking off pingest.pl
10:50 jvwoolf The bad part is that I accidentally set the flag to true in production instead of a test system like I had intended.:-D
10:50 jvwoolf Doesn't seem like anything bad happened luckily.
10:52 jvwoolf Does anybody know how to check on whether whatever it's doing in the background is done?
10:56 Dyrcona jvwoolf: Your foreground update doesn't finish unti its done, I think.
10:59 Dyrcona That is, the triggers don't run in the background.
11:00 jvwoolf Dyrcona++

Results for 2023-05-22

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11:12 gmcharlt updated the wiki to the latest stable version of Dokuwiki
11:13 tlittle gmcharlt++
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11:35 tlittle Reports don't appear to be running on my test server, and I'm not sure what else to check as to why. I've already restarted everything on this list: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=newdevs:restarting
11:36 tlittle Any ideas what else I should try?
11:37 gmcharlt tlittle: if Clark is running (ps -ef | grep -i Clark), it's possible that Clark things that there's a report still running
11:37 ACSpike Is Hatch specific to Evergreen? Could it be used by other web apps?
11:37 gmcharlt if so, SELECT * FROM reporter.currenly_running would show one or more rows

Results for 2023-05-15

11:29 csharp_ yeah, that was last Tuesday - Wednesday was fun
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11:43 ariez_hazaril hi everyone! I wanna ask something. Can Evergreen ILS port we change from 80 to 8080? i manage to change the port, but the eg_vhost still listen to port 80. thanks
11:57 jeff ariez_hazaril: in theory, it could be. it's not a common configuration, and may not be well tested. I don't think we have specific documentation on how to do it, and I'm not personally in a position to help troubleshoot your attempt. Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do?
11:58 ariez_hazaril Hi jeff, im trying to change opac port from 80 to 8080 as i need to use port 80 for something else
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Results for 2023-05-13

11:01 pinesol News from commits: LP1915326: Followup to Silence Offline / Shared Worker Errors <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc0850​066088ac14b68f97bf766b8c0057272959>
11:01 pinesol News from commits: LP#1915326: fix AngularJS test suite <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=acd87c​d359e10cb679309ce56b560cfd89c6d25a>
12:01 pinesol News from commits: LP2009092 Line item list checkbox labels <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c6c91​f17e907c265f296b139c2d75027f272040>
12:31 pinesol News from commits: LP#2019150: link to AngularJS Patron Requests interface <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6430a7​bf507fea59ce3bcb9751f4f61e7812c8b6>
12:31 pinesol News from commits: LP2018939 Restore barcode label for course materials <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8dfa3​732de204f602fae7b5a3ec7e9ba51a71a2>
14:15 bgillap_ are renewals also processed by action_trigger_runner.pl ?
14:31 pinesol News from commits: LP 2017913 Add html filter to reason <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=32b922​f3c7394d1bfd937aff009e058d2694eb86>
14:31 pinesol News from commits: LP2017913 Display Upcoming Closures in OPAC <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=90b732​6abdd92e973d88185bd063956aaea4b501>

Results for 2023-05-12

11:21 sandbergja Dyrcona++
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12:28 terranm When refreshing a test server, it's really helpful to log into the correct one.
12:39 Dyrcona terranm++
12:40 Dyrcona sandbergja++
12:40 Dyrcona It looks like we'll have point releases next week, and there is a high likelihood of there being one or more security patches in the releases.
12:46 csharp_ for when you do an OS upgrade and it breaks NPM all to hell: https://pastebin.com/aWcn6jkC
12:46 csharp_ (thanks to gmcharlt for the kernel of this back at the 2019 hackaway)
12:57 Dyrcona csharp_++ I have a less comprehensive version of that, but I think I'll steal yours.
12:57 Dyrcona I find it useful sometimes to wipe out Node and reinstall it when switching branches on a test VM.
13:01 csharp_ I may variable-ize the Evergreen source dir name to allow for non-Git or alternate repo usage
13:03 csharp_ updated the paste with that change
13:05 Dyrcona csharp_: Good idea. You might want to add this for bootstrap OPAC: rm -rf $INSTALL_DIR/var/web/opac/deps/node_modules
13:09 csharp_ -ohs*t
13:10 berick hah
13:11 Dyrcona :)
13:13 * Dyrcona tries the script out on a test vm, because I was just about to install Lp1947898 for testing with rel_3_10.
13:13 Dyrcona Lp 1947898
13:13 pinesol Launchpad bug 1947898 in Evergreen "Enhanced MARC importer script electronic_marc_import.pl" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1947898 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
13:36 csharp_ updated the paste with the bootstrap addition

Results for 2023-05-10

10:52 gmcharlt calling out bug 2019117 as worthy of quick review
10:52 pinesol Launchpad bug 2019117 in Evergreen "two line item actions broken after upgrade to Angular 15" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2019117
10:52 gmcharlt (curse you, Angular 15, for doing the right thing!)
10:55 jeff I can push that, especially since JBoyer's signed off and I don't see need to duplicate testing.
10:56 jeff the angular 15 upgrade only affects 3.11 anyway, so it's push to master and rel_3_11, right?
10:56 gmcharlt jeff: correct
10:56 gmcharlt (and thanks!)
10:57 mmorgan gmcharlt++

Results for 2023-05-09

11:16 * csharp_ fills out online application to the CIA
11:18 jeff "ah, these servers are just in a Reshelving -- i mean, Restarting status. Usually that only lasts for a few days."
11:18 csharp_ :-)
11:18 pinesol News from commits: LP#1920826: Add release notes and stamp upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1c8f1​6124a11b59e09655b5b83f2083558e0abc>
11:18 pinesol News from commits: LP#1920826: ensure that some DB updates missed in 3.6.0 are included <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=101245​847a6a02b7771278d96ea76c9f17dcd251>
11:19 pinesol News from commits: LP#1989195: (follow-up) flesh out Chrome e2e options <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d7dea​881d8a14c1a7e66ac805723329b462fb65>
11:19 pinesol News from commits: LP#1989195: (follow-up) minor reformatting of Angular cheat sheet <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=827f72​897a5ad1fae8f5bf62fcca1fe87642145e>
11:19 pinesol News from commits: LP1989195: upgrade nightwatch <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc067a​f1fa2a6b682f921b5b7fd93a174cd03b62>
11:19 pinesol News from commits: LP1989195: Update nightwatch selectors <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ee708​69b906916f6a29dce5c5fbd25b7f70bbd9>
11:19 pinesol News from commits: LP1989195: Nightwatch Chrome Config & Notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=89d40c​3101b30a3eb27e6059ac2b99865ba65e03>
11:19 pinesol News from commits: LP1989195: Use nightwatch for e2e testing angular client <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4949d1​a6dbee760be840418025dc90a3bec7f8f2>
11:19 csharp_ ooh
11:19 csharp_ so shiny, so beautiful - my PRECIOUS (commits)
11:20 csharp_ "what's commits, precious? what's commits, eh?"
11:38 Dyrcona Unattended upgrades are dangerous on produciton machines. I remember getting bit by an ejabberd update or something similar back in the day.
11:39 csharp_ jeffdavis: misery loves company!
11:39 jeffdavis ha!
11:47 Dyrcona A 3.10.1a tarball is available for download. I didn't test it.
11:48 * Dyrcona decides to get some lunch.
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15:13 JBoyer Bmagic++ mmorgan++ bugsquashers++
15:13 JBoyer #topic Documentation Updates
15:13 Bmagic I've been busy merging patches onto our test machine. I love it! Lots of activity
15:14 JBoyer #info Documentation hackfest: Lots of new folks in the morning! Got them started with our reorg spreadsheet, a live demo from Andrea, talked about 3.11 some, and other general docs conversations
15:14 JBoyer #info No May meeting last week, next meeting on June 1
15:14 JBoyer #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=​evergreen-docs:dig_meetings:20230601-agenda

Results for 2023-05-05

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13:10 Dyrcona See that's the fun part, every vendor implements the messages that they want, and in a want that works for them, so you end up needing a drive for each vendor.
13:12 Dyrcona I should slow down. I'm already causing problems for myself: "fatal: HEAD not found below refs/heads!"
13:16 * Dyrcona ponders wiping out this test installation and starting over now that he's learnt a few things.....
13:23 Dyrcona Nah... Too much work.
13:55 eby that all supposes that the vendor actually sends the messages which our inn-reach is maybe 80% right now
13:59 eby jeff: hopefully dcb3 is treating you better than dcb4 is treating us

Results for 2023-05-02

08:37 mmorgan Stompro++
08:48 Stompro In the last hour I see 900 cover art requests with a 200 status, and 7 with a 500 status.  So a few errors but it seems ok.
08:50 Stompro I should learn how to monitor that with our zabbix system.
08:56 jeff several options there. first and easiest (though not quite a "real" check) is to add an http item on an existing (or new) host where you're using the zabbix agent (or agent 2).
08:57 jeff (another option is to monitor the actual log file.)
08:58 jeff in the first, you're testing the content cafe endpoint directly, which could miss problems (in some scenarios), but is probably good enough for the kind of problem you've been describing of late.
08:59 JBoyer I hear OpenSRF 3.2.3 just dropped. Seems like pretty neat stuff.
08:59 JBoyer kmlussier++
09:00 jeff kmlussier++ JBoyer++

Results for 2023-04-27

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07:29 gmcharlt I have pushed the bootstrap 5 + angular15 branch that berick, sleary, and sandbergja have been working on to master
07:30 gmcharlt the BS5 upgrade in particular introduces a number of changes to how Bootstrap CSS classes work, so if you run into trouble when reviewing Angular changes that predate this morning, please be aware (and don't hesitate to ask for help, especially if you have an opportunity to bug berick and sleary in person at the conference)
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP#2000482: add a brief release notes entry <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=09b001​a2dbc5dd8877b5f61d9f4ecb5a68d9403f>
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP#2000482: (follow-up) couple more layout tweaks <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=635370​da24e9b2ed7da887e48045688a1e9443cb>
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP#2000482: (follow-up) update Angular cheat sheet <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c37328​795ac368f4a0b4f5f7514a5b31a25abb27>
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP2000482: Get tests passing <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1fcbd​a53d2d2a7858464fb8ca808e814cb7bcdf>
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP2000482: update tsconfig options to satisfy compiler warning <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d8923​e075a83318acf01a3236587c802278f4bc>
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP2000482 Bootstrap 5 continued <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b747e​6fd12089c22dfac928ad6b692f69279a52>
07:46 pinesol News from commits: LP2000482 Angular 15 and Bootstrap 5 upgrade <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c76e4a​d6c2aba1a918992659686bb6b50bfea79c>
08:07 csharp_ notes for Sys Admin IG: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EUa9oIvmp5s9​mbCRYIwG6dKMEcuirOEKcqbs90OjjWc/edit?usp=sharing
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14:36 pinesol abneiman is going out with degraafk to see Blighted Tormenter Contours tonight.
14:43 gmcharlt there's now an updated branch for bug 1997485
14:43 pinesol Launchpad bug 1997485 in Evergreen "wishlist: Did you mean? Multi word, single class search suggestions" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1997485 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
14:43 gmcharlt I think this is ready to go, and I intend to push it tonight, but if anybody intends to test it today, please speak up
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16:39 jihpringle that is outside of my expertise - if you don't get a response from anyone else I'd recommend emailing the general list next week (when people are back from the conference)
16:39 jihpringle https://evergreen-ils.org/​communicate/mailing-lists/
16:40 derekz Sounds good. If you're at the conference, I hope you're enjoying it and I appreciate you taking the time to respond
16:47 jeffdavis derekz: I'm pretty sure the structure of email templates is (1) headers including To, From, and any custom headers, (2) a blank line, (3) the body of the message
16:48 jeffdavis If you put custom headers with To and From etc *before* the blank line, I think that should work
16:48 jeffdavis (please test first though, don't take my word for it :)
16:51 derekz The structural outline is helpful. I'll give it try. Thank you!
17:09 derekz Does line 83 indicate that only From, To, Bcc, Cc, Reply-To, Sender are being extracted for further processing by the email perl module?
17:09 derekz https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.g​it;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenIL​S/Application/Trigger/Reactor/SendEmail.pm;h​=71354e6b6506ac8584af470fb51f04040ac49ab7;hb​=09b001a2dbc5dd8877b5f61d9f4ecb5a68d9403f
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17:19 jeffdavis derekz: I believe you're not restricted to those headers - our templates add a Message-ID header using the method I described, for example, and it appears to work
17:19 jeffdavis it may be that other headers are not MIME-encoded
17:23 derekz (y)  I'll do some testing and see how it goes. Headed out for the evening. Thanks for the help!
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Results for 2023-04-26

10:01 csharp_ memories light the corners of my mind: https://photos.app.goo.gl/gGvM5oH1MLeqhaQj9
10:02 smorrison seed data link for library settings: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergree​n.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/950.da​ta.seed-values.sql;h=93b7481231799e59b37e​3b17da3ba12210fde8a8;hb=refs/heads/master
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10:10 Dyrcona For those who wish to the rename of the master branch, here's the test repo: https://github.com/Dyrcona/Evergreen.git
10:11 Dyrcona For a good test, you should probably clone it with a different name from your main Evergreen repos.
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11:01 csharp_ @band add Gitolite Implications
11:01 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Gitolite Implications' added to list
16:14 pinesol News from commits: LP#1863387: multi-select now allows filtering shelving locations by owner <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b47752​82403bbbbee4835117b9130a9cb3bea9de>
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17:37 jeffdavis Do we actually still need to install the postgresql-server-dev-* packages on db servers? EG seems to run fine without, but maybe it's needed for pgtap tests or something?
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20:15 Bmagic Board games y'all! Presentation room A
21:35 gmcharlt noting what I'm working on over the next couple days for kmlussier's tuit challenge: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.ph​p?id=i18n:setting_up_a_new_series_tran​slation#wipupdating_the_instructions

Results for 2023-04-20

16:26 kmlussier git shortlog --group=trailer:signed-off-by --after="03 Apr 2023" --before="20 Apr 2023" -s -- ":(exclude)./docs/"
16:26 kmlussier Does anyone know if there is a way to count the signoffs where the person signing off is not the author? I'm thinking the answer is no, but maybe somebody smarter than me when it comes to git knows of a way.
16:27 Bmagic abowling: Try dividing the file that you're submitting in half, and then half again and again until it imports correctly.
16:29 abowling Bmagic: Thanks, but it's one record (a test) ;)
16:29 Bmagic kmlussier: I'm wish I knew the right answer for that. After you mentioned it the other day, I spent some time on getting sign-offs out of git with counts like you were talking about. I'm sure someone, ahem gmcharlt, might know it. Since he publishes these numbers sometimes
16:29 Bmagic abowling: hmmm, do you get this error for any* record?
16:29 abowling seemingly, yes

Results for 2023-04-14

11:08 Bmagic terranm++ # newdevs wiki
11:08 * Dyrcona would like to opt out of a lot of things.....
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11:56 abneiman Bmagic++ JBoyer++ # feature testing setup!!!
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12:58 jeffdavis Not sure if it was sent in response to the discussion above, but I just got an email with an option to opt out of sharing attendee info.
12:59 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Same here. I didn't mention anything outside of the channel.

Results for 2023-04-13

10:02 Dyrcona hrm... This is going to be an interesting rebase... I want to drop a bunch of commits, split one commit up into several smaller commits, and then squash some other commits into the new commits. I wonder if I can get away with doing it once, or will I have to do two rebases....
10:04 Dyrcona Now that I think about it, maybe I should rebase a different branch and then recreate the branch that I was planning to rebase from scratch....
10:19 Dyrcona I suppose that I could just make a new branch without rebasing either....
10:25 Dyrcona hm... wonder if I really need the changes to these two images. I'll make them their own commit so I can remove them later for testing.
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10:39 Dyrcona a) Does anyone use KPAC? b) Do you use override directories with KPAC?
10:52 Dyrcona Still working on this rebase, and I think I want to reorganize things even more.

Results for 2023-04-11

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10:08 Stompro jmurray-isl, Re: Content Cafe, they are serving up old images, but only to evergreen libraries because we seem to be the only customers that make use of the XMLPost request method.  And they seem to have no way to test request to that service.
10:13 Dyrcona Stompro: So, someone should open a bug on Lp for us to switch to the REST interface or whatever it is that Koha uses?
10:14 Stompro Dyrcona, they have a specific method for grabbing just cover art, but we also get author notes and reviews from them.  I think the XMLPost method is the only method for grabbing that info.
10:15 Dyrcona I see...
10:20 Dyrcona I was just thinking of how I should word this in an email to other CW MARS staff, but I think I'll skip it since no one has opened a ticket, yet.
10:21 Dyrcona Could we grab images via GET and still get the other information via POST?
10:27 Stompro Dyrcona, yes, I'm sure that would work, just added complexity.  If I remember correctly, it does try and combine different types of content into one request... but I don't think that happens in reality because of how clients request the data.
10:28 csharp_ most vendors don't really take testing that seriously
10:28 csharp_ (that could probably provide to all developers everywhere :-))
10:28 * Dyrcona thinks we are included in "most vendors."
10:28 csharp_ s/provide/apply/
10:28 Dyrcona csharp_++
10:58 Dyrcona There are only 2 hard problems in computer science: naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors. :)
11:01 Stompro They asked me what our memcache TTL is... and I'm like, "24 hours, now lets talk about what yours it set to?, it has been serving old data for 5 weeks now??"
11:05 Dyrcona -1?
11:27 jmurray-isl Stompro: To test ContentCafe images, I go to the OPAC record and look through the sources for contentcafe.  There, I can find something with the following format:  https://contentcafe2.btol.com/C​ontentCafe/jacket.aspx?UserID=<UserID>&Password=<Password>&Ret​urn=T&Type=S&Value=<ISBN-Number>
11:27 jmurray-isl Type equates to S, M, or L.
11:29 jmurray-isl I mean, it is a bit concerning that just anyone can view our ContentCafe credentials this way...
11:31 Bmagic jmurray-isl: I had the same thought whilst looking through this code. Syndetics works the same way. The "authentication" is simply our ID string embedded in the query string. If they charged based on number of requests, then I would be a bit more concerned :)
11:36 Stompro jmurray-isl, our Evergreen setup doesn't expose the username and pw, I did notice that Evergreen Indiana does have two different sets of cover art links.  The problem is that the jacket.aspx method is returning fresh data, but the XMLpost method that evergreen uses is serving old data.  let me grab an example.
11:37 Stompro Compare https://evergreen.lib.in.us/opac/ex​tras/ac/jacket/medium/9781608095377 and https://evergreen.lib.in.u​s/eg/opac/record/22903128

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