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Results for 2025-01-03

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13:15 Bmagic berick: back to my Acq order load issue: I switched my test VM back to ejabberd and it imported fine
13:16 Bmagic So that sucks
13:19 Dyrcona Bmagic: What, exactly, did you do to test the ace order load? We might want to give it a try on our dev vm.
13:19 Bmagic I'm formulating a theory that it's Docker+redis that is introducing [something]. I couldn't find anything in the logs that helped me, but I think I'll run it again on Redis and capture the whole osrf log and post it. Before I do that, I wonder if you have any other logs that I should be looking at or perhaps changing settings for more verbocity?
13:21 Bmagic I have a marc file with 891 marc records taylored for a certain library's shelving locations/Circ lib/etc. And it loads the order fine, but the bib records aren't created nor matched. I ran through the exact* same steps with the same exact data on the same exact database, and success on ejabberd and fail on redis. A little more info: loaded the same file via MARC import (not acq) works fine.
13:22 Dyrcona Bmagic: Thanks. That sounds like something we could test.
13:23 Bmagic I'm not sure the MARC file matters all that much. When I cut the file down to smaller chunks, it worked on Redis. So there's another clue
13:24 Dyrcona Yeah. Number of records might matter.
13:26 Bmagic For a little while I was thinking that there was a record somewhere in the file that was tripping the code. Splitting and splitting and splitting the file down to 10 record chunks eventually started giving me successful loads. Once I got it down to 10, I figured the other 10 half would fail because the 20 record file with both halves failed, but my surprised, both halves worked
13:26 Bmagic 3.14
13:27 Bmagic which is an interesting point: The ticket was sent to us when the system was still on 3.13 with Redis. And in the interum, we've upgraded the system to 3.14. The version of Evergreen doesn't seem to make a difference here. I'm seeing the same issue on 3.14
13:28 Dyrcona OK. I
13:28 Dyrcona I'll ask our catalogers what they've tested in acquisitions.
13:28 Dyrcona I'm pretty sure someone was looking at acq the other day.
13:28 Bmagic Dyrcona++
13:49 Dyrcona I asked, and it looks like someone is trying it out right now.
15:16 berick Bmagic: for the imports, there are no errors or crashes anywhere?
15:17 Bmagic nadda
15:17 Bmagic you'd think it would have an error somewhere. That's why I was asking if I needed to look in a different log, something for Redis specifically maybe
15:19 berick there is a redis log, and journalctl
15:20 berick i have a hunch redis itself is fine.  it's pretty battle tested.  more likely some other moving part.
15:22 Bmagic the clues are: size and docker. In both cases, it was large action triggers (at least in that case we got a SEGFAULT), and large MARC file in ACQ PO order load. One guess is that Redis is bumping up against some kind of docker artificial ceiling in terms of resources, and when it's denied, it silently breaks
15:23 Bmagic I had a problem several years ago having to do with ulimits. This feels similiar
15:24 Dyrcona Bmagic: I saw an open-ils.trigger drone using 3.3GB briefly yesterday. I think it was hanging around from Tuesday.
15:25 Bmagic maybe ejabberd did a better job of normalizing the bursts?
15:26 Bmagic probably the interplay with the OpenSRF code
15:26 Dyrcona You might be on to something. It could be that ejabberd spread the work out more. I haven't tried quantifying it, but it looks like fewer drones are used with Redis.
15:27 Dyrcona I have no data for that, but it would be worth figuring out how to test it.
15:32 Dyrcona I suppose we could test it with two comparable systems and then run things like the hold targeter and fine generator with the same settings on the same data.
15:37 berick i can promise higher/faster throughput for redis vs. ejabberd, even more so for larger messages
15:39 berick Bmagic: fwiw, imported 1k records via vandelay with no issue on a local non-docker vm.  not a 1-to-1 experiment, but still
15:40 Bmagic oddly enough, vandelay works, it's acq that fails
16:56 berick thanks Bmagic
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17:29 berick Bmagic: 1k recs into a new PO worked ok here.  bibs and line items.  records only, though, no copies
17:29 Bmagic that's pretty huge, just 891 for my test. But good to know. Though, I am loading copy info via vendor tag mapping

Results for 2024-12-31

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09:13 Dyrcona Going to run all of the same "tests" as yesterday on the dev machine. Running autorenew now, and it looks good so far. I realized that yesterday's may have very little to do since it was probably doing things due on New Year's Day. (There shouldn't have been any, but there almost always are a couple of things due on closed days because of manually adjusted due dates.)
09:13 Dyrcona ...or missing closed dates.
10:19 * Dyrcona waits on autorenew to finish. I'm going to schedule the hold_targeter at X:30 and the fine generator at (X+1):00 once the autorenew finishes. This will reflect how they're run from cron, so they might overlap.
10:19 Dyrcona Depending on how that goes, I may also reduce the hold_targeter parallel number from 6 to 3 or 4.
10:43 Dyrcona hm.. maybe I should have skipped the autorenew. Looks like there's a bit over 32,700 of them, and its completed 13,501 of them so far.
11:00 Dyrcona I estimate it will take another 2 hours for the autorenew to complete, so I could schedule the other things for 1:30 and 2:00 pm. They don't run while autorenew is running normally, so it wouldn't be a fair test to start them now.
11:07 Dyrcona Scheduled a run-pending a/t runner at 11:30. It does run while autorenew is going, so we'll see what happens. It may push things over the top.
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13:08 Dyrcona Looks like the action_trigger_runners did OK. No out of memory errors while they both were running. Looks like they're done.
13:11 Dyrcona I might try one of the aspen jobs later.
13:28 Dyrcona It looks like someone is testing offline circulation, and I see redis is using 30BM of memory at the same time
14:22 Dyrcona Bmagic: Are you around today? I've got a question about setting sysctl entries in the ansible playbook for the dev/test system.
14:43 * Dyrcona wonders if the systcl ansible module is available.
15:02 Dyrcona Well, I'll be back on Thursday.
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Results for 2024-12-30

09:21 Dyrcona As for redis crashing, I suspect, but do not know, that it is likely making an additional copy of the data as messages get passed around, thereby increasing the memory pressure.
09:22 Dyrcona BTW, beam.smp running Ejabberd on the one system is using 4224472K virt. That's 4GB!
09:23 Dyrcona Redis doesn't even show up when top -c is sorted by memory consumption when idle.
09:26 Dyrcona On the mostly unused test system Redis has VSZ of  74520K or 74MB. On the one where I just restarted it, the VSZ is 76460K.
09:28 Dyrcona Bmagic || berick : See my monologue above if you get this notification. If not, it's in the logs for future reference.
09:29 Dyrcona So, I'm going to rung the fine generator and keep an eye on top sorted by memory consumption.
09:32 Dyrcona s/rung/run/ but you get it.
09:37 Dyrcona OK. Going to restart the VM, first.
09:39 Dyrcona Huh. had to 'kill' simple2zoom twice. Once for each process. Guess they're not spawned in the same process group?
09:41 Dyrcona Gotta remember to start websocketd. It's not setup with systemd.
09:41 Dyrcona Think I'll do these tests on a couple of other vms to see what difference there is with memory use between Redis and Ejabberd if any.
09:42 berick Dyrcona: read it, but i'm unclear what the takeaway is
09:42 Dyrcona Well, I'm not sure there's a takeaway, yet, except that storage drones use a lot of memory regardless.
09:44 Dyrcona I'm in the process of ferreting out where the high memory use happens, and I'm logging it publicly rather than keeping private notes. It's a quiet day in IRC, so I don't think anyone will really mind much. If they do, know one has said anything, yet.
11:43 Dyrcona Doing anything with the database cranks up the buffers/cache.
11:44 jeff expected, since you're reading from disk and the kernel is caching that read data.
11:45 Dyrcona Yes.
11:47 Dyrcona My testing points the finger away from redis and more towards running everything on 1 machine.
11:47 jeff how much physical memory and how much swap does this machine/vm/whatnot have?
11:47 jeff can you share the output of this query somewhere? SELECT name, setting, unit, source FROM pg_settings WHERE name ~ 'mem';
11:48 Dyrcona It says 30G of memory, no swap. (I've considered adding swap, but haven't bothered because it would only delay the inevitable.)
15:46 Dyrcona For certain definitions of crazy. :)
15:46 Dyrcona No, I mostly agree.
15:47 Dyrcona Looks like they've been actually doing more stuff based on the run time.
15:49 Dyrcona I plan to set shared buffers back to the default in a bit and restart Pg. I'll run the same tests again tomorrow. If that's all good, I'll enable all but our Aspen scheduled jobs on Thursday.
15:52 Dyrcona Looking at the overcommit documentation, adding the swap may have helped in ways other than just being an overflow space. It looks like swap amount is used in the overcommit calculations for the heuristic and don't overcommit methods.
15:54 Dyrcona I'm curious to look at that part of the kernel code, but not so curious that I'm going to do it right now.
16:00 Dyrcona Without doing anything buffers/cached dropped by half just now. I think the cache pressure setting is also helping.

Results for 2024-12-27

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09:47 Dyrcona I am running the cron jobs manually on the test server with the low RAM errors. I think badge_score_generator.srfsh is one of the culprits for causing PostgreSQL to use a lot of buffer.
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10:12 Dyrcona Looks like just running most of the scheduled jobs is enough to cause Pg to use a lot of buffers/cache.
10:38 Dyrcona Slashing shared_buffers didn't really help.

Results for 2024-12-20

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09:05 Dyrcona Hm. Had issues with a couple of overnight jobs on the dev system, but the router is still running.
09:06 Dyrcona No problems with Autorenew on the other test vm, either.
09:07 Dyrcona Got this in the email from the badge_score_generator: [auth] WRONGPASS invalid username-password pair,  at /usr/share/perl5/Redis.pm line 311.
09:08 Dyrcona Haven't seen that one before. All the services are running OK.
09:09 Dyrcona refresh carousels reported "Unable to bootstrap client for requests." When I saw that I thought it might have been because of a crash.
10:21 Dyrcona I did recently switch the fine generator to run at 30 minutes past the hour because we were getting regular emails from the monitor about the number of processes running when it and the hold targeter started at the same time.
10:22 Dyrcona We're running password reset every minute, and the pending a/t running every half hour.
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10:23 Dyrcona We have a SQL sending data to Bywater for our test Aspen installation every 5 minutes. That could be using a lot of RAM.....
10:25 Dyrcona The person testing acq yesterday said that they did experience Evergreen stop working at that time. They also encountered Lp 2086786. I don't think it's related.
10:25 pinesol Launchpad bug 2086786 in Evergreen 3.13 "Acq: Multi-Branch Libraries Can't See All Their Branch Funds in Invoices" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2086786
10:26 Dyrcona Someone else mentioned Evergreen "crashing" at that time.
10:29 berick Dyrcona: mind checking periodically to see if Redis memory usage is slowly climbing?  if that's the case, I have a script that will help
10:35 Dyrcona And, that was easy.
10:38 Dyrcona Hm... it's 85MB of VM, rss is 13MB at the moment.
10:41 Dyrcona FWIW, I'm monitoring it this way: ps -o etime,time,rss,size,vsize 15997 [that's the actual PID]
10:45 Dyrcona I have not had it crash on the other test server, but I don't usually run cron, and it's almost never used.
10:46 Dyrcona It should be quiet next week. I'll try recompiling OpenSRF and Evergreen with debug options turned on. That might help, particularly if I can figure out how to reproduce a crash.
10:57 Dyrcona Think I'll do that on my other test vm, too, if I haven't already. I'll do that after I test the 3.12.10 tarball.
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Results for 2024-12-19

09:24 mmorgan Dyrcona: re: open-ils.cat.biblio.record.metadata.retrieve, suspect it's to access the creator and editor.
09:29 berick Dyrcona: pcrud to metabib.metarecord and metabib.metarecord_source_map will do it.
09:35 Dyrcona mmorgan++ berick++
09:36 Dyrcona I want to get the metarecord info for Aspen, so I'm going to see if the mods is enough. I think something like that goes on with copy holds, but I'm now in the middle of updating my test/dev vms.
09:39 Dyrcona Hm.. looks like my db server is still booting or failed to boot all the way...
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09:42 Dyrcona Yeah. Power was off. I'm pretty sure I did 'reboot' and not 'shutdown'
12:47 Dyrcona berick++ that worked!
12:48 Dyrcona JBoyer: I think you're correct when it comes to pcrud and cstore, now that I've played with pcrud a bit. I don't usually try this from srfsh.
12:53 Dyrcona This particular record's mods field is null anyway.
12:55 Dyrcona I wonder if we missed an update somewhere? My test database has 1,623,928 metarecord entries with null mods, and 591 where it isn't null.
12:58 Dyrcona Production has similar numbers.
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13:59 csharp_ redavis: I'm here - sorry, was in meetings all morning and just back from lunch
14:00 redavis No worries at all. csharp_, we're just waiting on 3.13.7 and testing tarballs
14:00 csharp_ onky donky
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15:38 Dyrcona Likely Autorenew blew it up.
15:38 Dyrcona That starts at 2:30 am.
15:47 Dyrcona I have a way to test that hypothesis. I have another machine with half the ram set up to use Redis. It has the same dump loaded. If I run autorenew right now, it should get almost the same data to process.
15:48 Bmagic Dyrcona++
15:51 Dyrcona And, they're off!
15:51 redavis sandbergja++

Results for 2024-12-10

15:07 shulabramble Okay, then
15:07 shulabramble #action gmcharlt - create a Git commit message type and update bug 2051946
15:07 pinesol Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
15:07 shulabramble #action waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration
15:08 shulabramble #info sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month
15:08 sleary I've been out sick; please carry forward
15:08 sleary (sorry sandbergja!)
15:08 shulabramble Aww! Hope you're feeling better.
15:08 sandbergja no problem!
15:08 redavis Just throwing the agenda here for new people - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:meetings:2024-12-10
15:09 sandbergja one note: outside of what sleary and I were working on, I figured out how to run perl unit tests with the perl debugger
15:09 shulabramble redavis++ thanks, I've had an interesting day and that slipped my mind.
15:09 sandbergja and added my notes here in case they are useful for anyone: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?​id=dev:testing:debugging_perl_unit_tests
15:09 shulabramble sandbergja++
15:09 sleary sandbergja++
15:09 berick sandbergja++
15:12 sleary whoops! on it
15:13 shulabramble #action sleary will make a new LP tag denoting bugs that involve string changes
15:13 redavis sleary++
15:13 shulabramble #topic revisit feasibility of automated testing for string changes
15:13 shulabramble berick++ sleary++
15:15 shulabramble anything on this?
15:16 abneiman tbh I don't recall whose action item that is
15:16 shulabramble neither do i.
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15:18 sleary sandbergja is that something we can add to our QA list?
15:18 sandbergja Sure!  Sounds fun
15:18 shulabramble #action sandbergja and sleary will revisit feasibility of automated testing for string changes
15:18 sleary sandbergja++
15:19 shulabramble sandbergja++ sleary++
15:19 sandbergja sleary++
15:21 abneiman shulabramble: yes I have your emial, thanks
15:21 shulabramble zipping through this agenda at top speed.
15:22 Dyrcona Lp 2055796
15:22 pinesol Launchpad bug 2055796 in Evergreen "Have github actions run pgtap tests for us" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055796
15:22 Dyrcona That's done.
15:22 berick yeah
15:23 shulabramble dyrcona++ berick++
15:37 redavis phasefx++
15:37 sandbergja phasefx++
15:38 phasefx Hand holding, pep talk, chocolate...
15:38 sandbergja I can build and test a tarball
15:38 shulabramble sandbergja++
15:38 * mmorgan can probably help with point releases next week
15:38 redavis I'll call a meeting for the point releases once some more spots are filled out. So, email imminent today or tomorrow for that.

Results for 2024-12-09

11:07 Dyrcona berick: Is that in your rust repo on GH?
11:07 berick if it crashes, there will be a file + line number + crash message in the kernel logs.  none of this C segfault hunting madness.
11:08 berick Dyrcona: yes
11:08 Dyrcona I'll see about testing it on of my vms. I'll put it on the one that I plan to use with a test Aspen instance. That should give it a work out.
11:09 berick Dyrcona++
11:10 Bmagic berick++ # This is production, albeit a single cronjob forked off to it's own machine for analyzing. I'm willing to use it as a test bed to hunt down this bug. Because, IMO, the only real way to do it is on production
11:13 Dyrcona I think I'll get Aspen hooked up, first, and try the Rust router later. I'm already using Redis on that vm. I still have to figure out how to hook Aspen up to Evergreen and get the indexer going. I'll probably pop into Slack to ask questions.
11:15 * Dyrcona *mumbles* Right. Lp bug about camera not working...
11:17 Dyrcona Wait a minute... Maybe I read that update wrong and it autoremoved the drivers?

Results for 2024-12-05

10:14 Dyrcona I don't think setting that to 0 was ever meant to be fine. Looks like an unreported bug was fixed.
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10:25 mmorgan Bmagic++
10:48 Dyrcona Well, I have Aspen running, but it's not talking to a test Evergreen instance, yet. I suppose I could get answers in Slack, but I'll peruse the docs and the code first.
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11:26 pinesol News from commits: LP#2089419: fix parsing of offset/limit in C-based DB search methods <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0458ae​01ef6a84734efb7232bc1cdaf479dd3be8>
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12:14 jeffdavis If I'm reading Open-ILS/src/c-apps/oils_auth_internal.c correctly, seems like 0 is the default timeout value if auth.staff_timeout is unset.
12:14 jeffdavis Does the login issue occur on a 3.14 system where auth.staff_timeout is unset?
12:15 Bmagic here's another finding: if I was using a browser that already had a workstation registered, I could login! (even with the timeout setting set to 0) - but if I needed to to the workstation registration dance, I would be in a login loop
12:15 Bmagic jeffdavis: I didn't test that
12:16 Bmagic I'll try it on a test machine
12:16 mmorgan jeffdavis: I found that the issue does NOT happen when auth.staff_timeout is unset, but it would be great to see confirmation.
12:17 Bmagic mmorgan jeffdavis: confirmed, no value (no row) in actor.org_unit_setting, I can still login
12:18 Dyrcona jeffdavis: What branch are you looking at/
12:19 Bmagic FYI: I'm on main OpenSRF with the redis stuff merged
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12:19 Bmagic however, I've also tested on opensrf 3.3.2 (ejabberd) and I had the same problem/solution with the setting
12:19 * mmorgan tested on 3.14.0
12:20 Bmagic mmorgan: can you confirm that a zero setting will result in the login loop?
12:21 mmorgan Bmagic: Yes, I did observe that on 3.14.0, so can confirm.
12:21 Bmagic and! you have to be sure you're not using a browser that has the workstation registered
12:36 Dyrcona 0 seems like a bad value for an infinite time out when the setting is meant to be an interval. -1 is probably better.
12:36 Bmagic thinking about it more, the magic trick was probably having "route to" in the query string on the login page. Where the route to was an eg page and* the login page was eg
12:37 Dyrcona I suspect you're overthinking it, and the problem is likely simpler than that. some eg2 code is getting the time out in seconds and treating 0 as 0, not as infinity.
12:38 Bmagic I get it, yes, eg2 JS is treating 0 differently than eg. I understand that. I'm pontificating and going over in my head the various ways I was able to overcome the issue during testing. And I think it was when I was able to never touch eg2 during the auth process
12:38 Dyrcona OK>
12:41 Dyrcona The core eg2 auth service looks like it gets the timeout from the backend.
12:43 Dyrcona Staff component looks like it uses the auth service.
15:13 Dyrcona pinesol: No, but I did try turning it off and back on again.
15:13 pinesol Dyrcona: http://images.cryhavok.org/​d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif
15:13 Dyrcona Yeah, pretty much.
15:14 Dyrcona Oh, right. I was in the middle of installing some backports on a 3.7.4 test installation.
15:15 Dyrcona I had just run the 'chown' command and when it seemed to take too long, that's when I knew something was up. :)
15:23 Dyrcona Sometimes, you just gotta run desktop-clear....
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Results for 2024-12-03

10:40 Bmagic I have a sql script that will do the trick, but I've never used it on production
10:41 Bmagic originally from Dyrcona, tweaked by me: https://github.com/mcoia/mobius_evergree​n/blob/master/Random/real_bib_delete.sql
10:41 Bmagic it's dated, so, there might be newer links that it needs to know about
10:46 stephengwills Bmagic++. Drycona++. I see what I can do with it on a test db.  I just moved us up to 3.14 so i’m sure it will want something new.  thanks.
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Results for 2024-12-02

10:59 csharp_ redis and sip2-mediator and reports oh my!
11:00 csharp_ "wellsir..." <slaps the roof of EG 3.12> "this Evergreen version has served us very well"
11:01 berick and we (kcls) have moved on a bit from the stock EG mediator code, which would put you on the bleeding edge csharp_ fyi
11:02 csharp_ I'll keep SIPServer around to crank up if needed
11:03 csharp_ also, willing to test bleeding edge at this stage of our upgrade (targeted for mid February)
11:07 berick in particular, the rust variant forgoes HTTP communication, a key facet of the original design, and ops for a more evergreen-centric opensrf client approach (i.e. direct redis communication).  in the end, it's just more efficient and in some ways more practical.
11:12 berick that is to say, though the http approach has its own benefits, there are no examples of it in use in the wild.
11:12 berick that i'm aware of
11:27 Bmagic csharp_: I feel your pain on the bot battle
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11:37 mmorgan berick: jeff: Looking at bug 2076921. jeff's testing looks favorable, any reason not to roll it out? Our pc support tech is seeing changes being rolled out that disable the current extension.
11:37 pinesol Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
11:40 berick mmorgan: i see no reason to delay any longer
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Results for 2024-11-27

10:13 Dyrcona Looks a bit rusty to me....
10:14 Dyrcona Or is that typescript? Too many languages, I can't tell.
10:14 berick yeah typescript, but to be fair, sometimes my typescript is rusty
10:49 Dyrcona Hm. I suppose I could start over on my Aspen test system installation. It has only been on hold since September.
10:49 Dyrcona Sorry. Just "thinking out loud."
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11:02 berick @quote add <slashdot> The first 90% of a project takes 90% of the time, the last 10% takes the other 90% of the time.

Results for 2024-11-25

14:45 abowling Use of uninitialized value $@ in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/share/perl/5.30.0/OpenS​RF/Transport/SlimJabber/Client.pm line 162.
14:45 abowling Exception: OpenSRF::EX::Jabber 2024-11-25T11:44:51 OpenSRF::Transport::SlimJabber::Client /usr/local/share/perl/5.30.0/OpenSRF​/Transport/SlimJabber/Client.pm:162 Jabber Exception: Could not authenticate with Jabber server:
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15:29 pinesol News from commits: LP2067191: Add documentation and tests for visibility attributes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c78bb​c70563a64cc26e99d198fb0355f3afd7a7>
15:29 pinesol News from commits: LP2062944: Running angular tests with code coverage should not error <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6963fb​3afdb33fb9bd7d6772073171f75f4ecb18>
15:59 pinesol News from commits: lp2085970: fix alignment of Filter value input in Reports editor <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=15f3d3​c8f564f79a5832e163eb2b1feb899d5215>
16:17 sandbergja Bmagic: off the top of your head, do you know if there's a way to recompile and reinstall the Evergreen C code from the dev container? `make install` fails (I think from the symlinks?), and I don't know another way to update the C code.
16:19 sandbergja Oh, I think I can make install from within the c-apps directory, then kick off a restart?
16:21 sandbergja ha! that did the trick

Results for 2024-11-21

12:02 Bmagic ok, I'm game
12:03 berick oh right, we can attach to running processes...
12:03 berick so just restart everything like normal
12:03 Bmagic I've isolated the issue to this machine by trial and error. The "main" util server isn't having issues, now that I've divided the crons up. And this one cron seems to be the one that consistently causes the segfault. In other words: we can use this as a test bed.
12:04 Bmagic ok, I'm leaving the machine alive, and restarting everything like normal
12:06 berick once it's up, get the PIDs of the 2 router proceses, open 2 terminals and run this for each pid: gdb /openils/bin/opensrf_router <pid>
12:06 berick i /think/ that will do it
12:31 berick oh, you mean the binary..
12:31 berick maybe?
12:31 Bmagic I'll try
12:32 Bmagic that would be nice, so I'm testing the same situation where I've had this segfault a few times
12:34 berick Bmagic: also https://stackoverflow.com/questions/​21395106/how-can-i-gdb-attach-to-a-p​rocess-running-in-a-docker-container
12:35 berick hm, don't see how that's really different from what you already tried
12:35 Bmagic lxc-attach is the magic

Results for 2024-11-20

10:32 csharp_ no, it should be considered the new CentOS
10:32 Dyrcona OK. I haven't been keeping up with the RedHats....
10:32 Dyrcona I thought it was the new Fedora.
10:33 csharp_ Fedora's still Fedora - I may try to support it too - but Fedora is the testing ground for RHEL/Rocky
10:34 csharp_ like a more stable Debian sid
10:34 Dyrcona Yeah. I would not object to adding Rocky support, but I'm a bit leery of adding Fedora install support officially.
10:34 Dyrcona I mean, *I* don't want to support it. :)
10:34 csharp_ agreed - I can't imagine anyone running Fedora in production given how quickly the release cycles run
17:02 mantis mmorgan++
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17:04 Dyrcona mmorgan++ redavis++ csharp_++
17:06 csharp_ starting my test of 3.13
17:06 mmorgan 3.12.9 tarball is set also, files shared.
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17:31 * Dyrcona signs out for now.

Results for 2024-11-19

15:56 Bmagic ok, I see. Looking at a fresh installation of OpenSRF (main) - comes packed with that line     CONFIG SET save ""
16:04 Dyrcona berick++ Bmagic++
16:04 Dyrcona I let do-release-upgrade overwrite /etc/redis.conf, so wondered when I didn't see anything in the README about it.
16:06 Dyrcona After doing do-release-upgrade, I `rm -rf /openils/*` and reinstalled OpenSRF main and my test branch of Evergreen base on 3.14.0.
16:07 Dyrcona It's working so far.
16:12 * Dyrcona is also ready for translations and release building tomorrow.
16:13 redavis Dyrcona++
16:25 redavis Bmagic, yep. If you can. No pressure if you can't though.
16:25 Bmagic :) I'd love to
16:25 redavis Rock on. Thank you.
16:28 eeevil re the reporter, they last "one more failure" test was not related to the problem at hand, but it's also (as abneiman says) fixed, pending testing. LP may not have sent my email to that effect yet
16:29 Dyrcona eeevil: I got the email with your comment. I'm Ok with that going in if someone signs off tonight.
16:30 redavis eeevil, I'm just refreshing for comments anyway :-). I think we're waiting on Llewelyn for the actual ticket. Is there another ticket for the "one more failure"?
16:30 redavis Oh, eeevil, n/m my question.  I see the answer in your comment.
16:30 Bmagic I was about to say
16:30 Dyrcona :)
16:31 Bmagic it seems like we should wait until this tree.js branch receives it's additional commit, and maybe Llewellyn can double check it on his test machine, the same as he did with the first commit
16:33 Dyrcona My answer is it depends on how long we have to wait.
16:33 Dyrcona I would like to get started tomorrow morning.
16:34 Bmagic agreed
16:44 Bmagic that's fine, it means we'll wait
16:54 * Dyrcona signs out for the day.
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17:01 eeevil Bmagic: ok! looking at the clock, I'm going to suggest that I push a branch with just (what we've been calling) the followup commit -- it's separate, but discovered during tree.ts testing -- and if you get the signoffs you want/need on the current branch, I recommend we proceed with merging that.  then, if you also like the cut of the new branch's jib, and feel like pulling that in, I'm comfortable with it going in quickly. if it has to sit, I won't
17:01 eeevil cry too hard.
17:02 Bmagic ok then, we have something we can test?
17:03 redavis Bmagic, I think it's the current branch listed at https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Eve​rgreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/mike​r/lp-2087562-dynamic-tree-node-parent-links
17:03 Bmagic that's what I'm looking at. So, roll with that for now, and we'll catch the rest next cycle, is that right?
17:04 eeevil to that end, here's the followup commit on a branch by itself: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergr​een.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/miker/fix-​virtual-field-link-joins-in-upgraded-templates
17:05 Bmagic eeevil: thanks! And you're not comfortable with that second branch just yet?
17:05 eeevil Bmagic: next cycle, or this if it looks sane to you. I'm mainly trying to get it out there for others to test/use asap
17:05 eeevil oh, /I/ am comfortable, but it's not been tested by not-mike.
17:05 Bmagic understandable
17:06 redavis How about this, maybe Llewellyn signs off on the first branch tonight.. but probably not.  Even if he doesn't, we can get to testing the second branch and have both ready for next month...and for anyone that wants to apply in the meantime.
17:06 Bmagic well, like you said, it's three lines. Seems like we should be able to test that with some humans. Sure wish we had some e2e tests to do the job for us
17:07 * eeevil imagines the selenium script that would drive the reporter to test this ... shudders, passes out
17:07 redavis LOL!!!
17:08 Bmagic yeah, it'd be one heck of a test
17:09 eeevil the test is ... clone a report that uses a might_have link on a virtual idl field and make sure it uses the left-side pkey column instead of the virtual column name in the join
17:09 abneiman I'd be delighted to have the first one go in this evening, for point releases this month
17:09 Bmagic it's radio silience over there at Cardinal. Maybe they'll get back with me before the "morning"
17:10 abneiman but! I've put my finger(s) on the scale(s) too many times on this particular issue so with that imma head out and go swimmin
17:13 redavis lol, or close to the Y
17:13 redavis also, rock on for the first branch. So, unless anyone wants to stop me (please stop me), I'm going to open a new LP ticket for the second branch to make sure it doesn't get neglected.
17:15 eeevil redavis: this is me, not stopping you! :)
17:15 Bmagic yeah, that's a sane course of action I think. Considering the test is nuanced
17:15 eeevil redavis++
17:15 redavis Excellent! This is also you not smellin' a burning clutch.
17:15 Bmagic digging up an old template that " uses a might_have link on a virtual idl field and make sure it uses the left-side pkey column instead of the virtual column name in the join"

Results for 2024-11-18

11:19 csharp_ ick
11:19 csharp_ pinesol: be better
11:19 pinesol csharp_: Have you tried taking it apart and putting it back together again?
11:19 Dyrcona berick: I'm signing off on your commits for Lp 2083856 and looking into the test failure. I swear it did not do that last Wednesday. Also, I swear I added all of the prerequisites, but maybe I didn't or switched branches and lost 'em?
11:19 pinesol Launchpad bug 2083856 in Evergreen "Add Support for PostgreSQL 17" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2083856 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
11:20 csharp_ berick++ # don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
11:20 berick Dyrcona: cool,  yeah, i didn't get a chance to follow up on the failures.
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11:28 Dyrcona berick: It looks like the same output with the 100 and 600 tags in opposite order.
11:29 Dyrcona I'm going to reverse them in one of the copies and see what diff says after.
11:31 Dyrcona Yeah, that's it. If I modify a copy of what we're looking for from the test to have the 100 before the 600, and the 905 (to put 110 before 600), the output is the same.
11:32 Dyrcona I wonder if we have been depending on undefined behavior again?
11:32 Dyrcona Bleh that 110 should be 100... Anyway....
11:33 Dyrcona I suppose I can make the test check the Pg version and do something different if it 17+. It wouldn't be the first time we've done that.
11:35 Dyrcona I wonder though if the auth overlay function needs fixing for more predictable output?
11:38 pinesol News from commits: LP#1721026: Default owner for copy tags and types <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=79980a​ff138c39b6056f8c0795fa308a8293fa79>
11:42 csharp_ oh, I didn't realize the next Ubuntu release is "noble" - that kind of synergy doesn't happen often, does it NOBLE?
11:44 Dyrcona I name my test vms for the release codenames: bullseye, bookworm, jammy, noble, etc. So, I have a test vm named noble.cwmars.org. :)
11:45 csharp_ SO CONFUSING
11:45 Dyrcona I suppose I could have used the animal name: numbat.cwmars.org....
11:47 * mmorgan wants to say it's cool, but agrees with csharp_ SO CONFUSING!
13:29 abowling Dyrcona: It's what csharp_ referenced earlier; my 5.26.1 folder has the dependencies, but not the 5.30.0 folder
13:30 Dyrcona Well, 5.26.1 should still be in the Perl path... You could try csharp_'s suggestion of deleting the 5.26.1 stuff and then reinstalling the prerequisites.
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13:36 Dyrcona heh.. The test still fails......
13:38 Bmagic tests++
13:48 Dyrcona extraneous space from where I inserted the new output.
13:50 Dyrcona The db test passes on pg 17. I'll test on an earlier pg release before committing the changes.
13:50 Dyrcona I mean committing them locally and pushing to a working branch.
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11:03 * Dyrcona wonders if doing the translations bits for different releases on the same VM will cause problems. Probably not.
11:06 * Dyrcona does release building on a dedicated vm, then tests it elsewhere.
11:12 jeffdavis We've got a recurring situation where ill-behaved webcrawlers doing ~200 qtype=subject queries per minute can cause OOM problems.
11:12 jeffdavis We're playing whack-a-mole with IP addresses since the crawlers don't properly identify themselves.
11:12 jeffdavis It would be nice if EG handled that volume of requests more gracefully.

Results for 2024-11-14

09:40 sleary I can't get it installed on 15 though; will try again on 18
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09:40 terranm https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/d​oku.php?id=evergreen-reports:rig
10:10 berick csharp_: fyi fixed ansible on 24.04 using include_tasks:  doing final tests now
10:10 sleary scottangel: https://css-tricks.com/com​e-to-the-light-dark-side/
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10:18 terranm My Hack-a-way update: KPAC overhaul is still in very early stages, but it now has the beginning of an admin interface to create/update the custom categories on the fly - no more XML config file! https://terran-main.gapines.org/eg/kpac/home

Results for 2024-11-13

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09:18 Bmagic Dyrcona++
09:19 Bmagic berick: I think it's a good thing (non-global).
09:23 berick yay, github pgtap tests already paying off (working on pg17 branch)
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09:27 kmlussier Zoom link for the hack-a-way is https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88077861312​?pwd=diZubjjUZTrVMs6PLDYRO5Rfxyn3Ao.1
10:21 Dyrcona abneiman++
10:23 eeevil 2083039
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11:03 mantis hey all we are doing some open testing for Ringcentral which will be the conference software platform we'll use for the 2025 conference.  If anyone has some time to spare testing, please let me know and I can send a magic link invite
11:03 mantis or you can register here: https://events.ringcentral.com/​events/eg-committee-test-event
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11:11 sleary I am hearing that not everyone here is familiar with the falsehoods programmers believe about names: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/fal​sehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ and the many other permutations https://github.com/kdeldycke/awesome-falsehood
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Results for 2024-11-12

15:08 shulabramble #topic waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration
15:08 shulabramble And I assume the same for this unless there's any discussion to be had?
15:08 abneiman I will ping gmcharlt in our channel about that 2nd one since Dyrcona is awaiting access
15:09 shulabramble abneiman++
15:09 shulabramble #action waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration
15:09 shulabramble #topic sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month / at hackaway
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15:10 sandbergja ooh!  We did some work in the wiki.  We haven't had a chance to coordinate something for the hackaway
15:10 sleary I have not made much progress on my part of that, so let's kick that to next month, please!
15:10 abneiman sandbergja++ sleary++
15:10 shulabramble sandbergja++ sleary++ got it
15:11 shulabramble and a belated eeevil++
15:11 shulabramble #action sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month / at hackaway
15:11 sandbergja very happy if people discuss tests at hackaway though :-D
15:11 shulabramble #topic bug 2076921 expected to get more testing and merged, and beta uploaded to store
15:11 pinesol Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
15:12 berick jeff did some testing, many thanks
16:12 pinesol Launchpad bug 2055796 in Evergreen "Have github actions run pgtap tests for us" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055796 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
16:12 smayo shulabramble++
16:12 shulabramble sandbergja?
16:12 sandbergja yes, pasting some text
16:13 sandbergja The back story: we used to have our tests automatically running regularly (2x/day?), and alerting IRC if there was a test failure.  This has not worked for some time, so currently we don't find out about those bugs we've added to Evergreen until somebody runs the tests manually (which may be a while later).  Github offers free infrastructure for running tests, so a year ago, we decided to explore
16:13 sandbergja I have a pull request to get our pgtap (database) tests running automatically on github actions, berick has reviewed it but mentioned "unclear if there's any additional decision processes re: adding github actions".
16:13 sandbergja I figured this was the place to ask. :-)
16:13 phasefx testing would be easier with simpler installations... *runs away*
16:13 sandbergja phasefx++
16:14 sandbergja 100% agree
16:14 redavis phasefx++ #also hahahahahah
16:14 sandbergja trying to install an eg-compatible ejabberd in github actions has me totally stumped
16:14 sandbergja so I can't wait for redis to be merged
16:14 sandbergja but I'm getting off topic hahaha
16:15 berick any objections to running pgtap tests via github actions? going once?
16:15 Bmagic berick says "strong +1 to merging"
16:15 Bmagic no objections at all
16:15 phasefx no objections to anyone maintaining testing infrastructure
16:16 abneiman tests++
16:16 berick didn't think so, but it's kind of new, so..
16:16 berick sandbergja++
16:16 shulabramble sandbergja++
16:17 redavis berick++
16:18 shulabramble berick++
16:18 phasefx berick: just main?
16:18 Bmagic I find it interesting that the server upon which the test run, presumabely don't have the perl dependencies? But that's fine for the scope of the tests?
16:18 * phasefx belatedly pulls up the ticket
16:19 shulabramble #action it is okay to merge lp2055796, sandberg and berick will attend
16:19 shulabramble wrangling before we go a full half hour over
17:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 2032835 in OpenSRF "Discussion: Merge OpenSRF Into Evergreen?" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2032835
17:41 sandbergja +1
17:42 Bmagic +1
17:48 pinesol News from commits: LP2055796: run pgtap tests on Github Actions <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e83c5​de8ca1e7530853878bc7562d961ce348c4>
17:50 Bmagic sandbergja++ berick++
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