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kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen! |
| 09:06 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
| 09:06 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Golden Mandheling, and sends it sliding down the bar to eby |
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kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol |
brews and pours a pot of Earl Grey Decaffeinated Black Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to jeff (http://ratetea.com/tea/bigelow/earl-grey-decaf/87/) |
| 09:08 |
eby |
already got a Sumatra Anaerobic Dry Process Pendekar going but thanks |
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Dyrcona |
eby: Sounds fancy! |
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eby |
https://www.sweetmarias.com/sumatra-anaerobic-dry-process-pendekar-7777.html |
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kmlussier |
I am enjoying the full-bodied flavors in my mug of Folgers. |
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| 10:04 |
jeff |
in a ticket system with over 200,000 tickets, we managed to submit something that the state resource sharing consortium had not seen before. yay! |
| 10:04 |
jeff |
> That was something new. I agree, an insert barcode gone horribly wrong |
| 10:05 |
jeff |
@ana [ana insert barcode gone horribly wrong] |
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pinesol |
jeff: Wobbling or hard-core serenity |
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| 10:07 |
jeff |
a patron with not one, but TWO (of the same) item barcodes on their patron record in the INN-Reach DCB client. nominal is zero item barcodes from any libraries being attached to a patron account as a patron barcode. |
| 10:07 |
berick |
lotto ticket time |
| 10:14 |
csharp_ |
Bmagic_: around? |
| 10:18 |
csharp_ |
su: user openarf does not exist |
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csharp_ |
su: user openarf does not exist |
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csharp_ |
laggy network = repetition |
| 10:19 |
csharp_ |
@band add OpenARF |
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pinesol |
csharp_: Band 'OpenARF' added to list |
| 10:19 |
csharp_ |
my dogs' favorite typo |
| 10:19 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP2006969 (follow-up): fix a lint issue in MARC editor case statement <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad1d4106a3013dfd1ae2fd44493e6d994f441309> |
| 10:20 |
berick |
don't forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snarf_(ThunderCats) |
| 10:20 |
kmlussier |
heh |
| 10:29 |
Bmagic_ |
test |
| 10:29 |
Bmagic_ |
dang it, still have the tail |
| 10:29 |
Bmagic |
there |
| 10:30 |
Bmagic |
csharp_: sup? |
| 10:34 |
jeff |
I was curious to see if there had ever been a crossover featuring mostly sidekicks from 1980s cartoons: Snarf, Orko, etc... No idea, but I found: |
| 10:35 |
jeff |
Orko, Slimer, Wicket, & Snarf - "An original hip-hop song about mostly-derided 80's media franchise mascot/sidekick characters having a big party to celebrate how good life is despite of their haters." |
| 10:35 |
jeff |
it rhymmes "hate-ees" with "80s". |
| 10:38 |
berick |
oh i forgot about Orko |
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csharp_ |
Bmagic: working on the libraryiq exporter and saw that one of our larger systems' full export was taking days to process - chunksize default is 500 - do you have a recommendation for what's "too large"? |
| 11:57 |
csharp_ |
also, |
| 11:57 |
csharp_ |
libraryiq-- |
| 12:01 |
csharp_ |
I upped the chunksize to 1500, but wondered if I'm being too conservative, given our fast, robust hardware and large datasets |
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| 12:21 |
Bmagic |
csharp_: hmm, without looking at it, there's a schema that contains the functions that run over the tables to gather the data. Perhaps those queries need to be tuned, or perhaps an index added here or there. I'd say you'd need to break the problem down to the individual queries and find the ones that are slow, then figure out why |
| 12:21 |
Bmagic |
I remember spending a lot of time on those queries for speed reasons |
| 12:23 |
Bmagic |
barring that, it's pretty easy to change the chunksize. maybe that's all you need to do. Try 10000 and see if that makes it better or worse :) |
| 12:33 |
jeff |
I'm guessing this is https://github.com/mcoia/evergreen-libraryiq-export ? |
| 12:34 |
jeff |
Is there a sa specification for what the vendor in question wants, or is it like so many others, and it's not actually written down anywhere (or the written version is incorrect)? |
| 12:34 |
* jeff |
shshakes the extra letters out of his keyboard |
| 12:48 |
Dyrcona |
marc_export should be good enough for LibraryIQ. If you patch marc_export with all the latest stuff from main, it should be fast, too. |
| 12:58 |
Dyrcona |
This one's for jeff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8 |
| 12:58 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona, do you know if SHAREit is sending user ids or barcodes in their AcceptItem requests? We're seeing problems with ids not working today and I don't know if that's on them or my current build of main + some of Josh's patches. |
| 13:00 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: They send us barcodes. We send them ids so they can match up patrons with changed barcodes. |
| 13:00 |
JBoyer |
cool, that's what I thought but wanted to double check |
| 13:01 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona++ |
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csharp_ |
Bmagic: thanks! |
| 13:45 |
csharp_ |
Bmagic: reporting back - yes, upping to 10K has sped things up |
| 13:47 |
Dyrcona |
csharp_ | Bmagic: Cursors sometimes help, too. |
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Bmagic |
jeff: the specs for libraryiq, hmmm, I don't remember where I got them. I'm sure I was referring to something when I wrote that. |
| 14:19 |
csharp_ |
Bmagic: jeff: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DMsRKcX-zlNiHC5AeYskhBEomaVDAQ-y/view?usp=sharing |
| 14:20 |
* Dyrcona |
got collectionhq confused with libraryiq earlier, obviously. |
| 14:20 |
Dyrcona |
csharp_++ |
| 14:20 |
csharp_ |
yeah |
| 14:21 |
csharp_ |
I just wish we had the tuits to roll our own dashboard thingy and remove the need for third parties |
| 14:22 |
Dyrcona |
A few sites have dashboards of one sort or another, but mostly built outside of Evergreen. |
| 14:22 |
csharp_ |
Edelweiss, CollectionHQ, LibraryIQ, OrangeBoy, etc. |
| 14:22 |
csharp_ |
yeah |
| 14:22 |
Bmagic |
funny you should mention that |
| 14:22 |
Dyrcona |
One of our members used CollectionHQ for a DEI analysis of their collection. |
| 14:22 |
csharp_ |
oh, interesting |
| 14:22 |
Bmagic |
llewellyn might be cooking up a dashboard |
| 14:22 |
csharp_ |
based on subject entries I guess? |
| 14:23 |
csharp_ |
Bmagic: oh? that would be rockin' |
| 14:23 |
Bmagic |
I agree, I've been pushing for it pretty hard |
| 14:23 |
csharp_ |
@who is the change I want to see in the world? |
| 14:23 |
pinesol |
is the change I want to see in the world. |
| 14:23 |
csharp_ |
pinesol: try again |
| 14:23 |
pinesol |
csharp_: Zoia knows how to make fusilli. |
| 14:23 |
Dyrcona |
Heh. |
| 14:24 |
* csharp_ |
pours one out for zoia |
| 14:24 |
Dyrcona |
pinesol: How is Zoia doing these days? |
| 14:24 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: Leave me alone, I'm busy right now. |
| 14:32 |
Dyrcona |
@eightball How I get the patron's txt number into these notices? |
| 14:32 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: You know the answer better than I. |
| 14:32 |
Dyrcona |
pinesol: Apparently you English gudder than I do. |
| 14:32 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: You probably want hard-boiled eggs. |
| 14:33 |
Dyrcona |
pinesol: No, thanks! I'm full from lunch. |
| 14:33 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: We're going to need a bigger boat. |
| 14:33 |
Dyrcona |
Ha! |
| 14:38 |
eby |
jeff: are you in the disappearing items from dcb while still in your posession group |
| 14:42 |
Dyrcona |
berick | Bmagic: I'm looking at the Evergreen XML notices. Do either of you have advice for where to put the SMS number for hold notices, etc.? I assume it is not added elsewhere. |
| 14:44 |
berick |
Dyrcona: i have a local change to pull that the opac.default_sms_notify user setting |
| 14:44 |
berick |
ok, i need to get our current code into pub repo |
| 14:44 |
berick |
keep putting it off |
| 14:45 |
Bmagic |
berick++ |
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| 14:46 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ I was thinking of grabbing from the first hold, but the setting works, too! |
| 14:47 |
berick |
ah i forgot about hold_requiest.sms_notify since we don't use the hold-specific phone fields |
| 14:47 |
Dyrcona |
That's all right. I think it should go away these days. ;) |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
I know that question has come up in IRC over the years. Has anyone considered moving that discussion to the general list to see if we could get some buy-in for it? |
| 14:50 |
csharp_ |
kmlussier: which question? |
| 14:50 |
kmlussier |
Moving away from the per-hold notice methods. |
| 14:51 |
csharp_ |
ah |
| 14:54 |
berick |
Dyrcona: Bmagic: https://github.com/kcls/evergreen-pub/tree/release/3.11/KCLS/utility-scripts/xml-notices |
| 14:54 |
Bmagic |
berick++ |
| 14:54 |
berick |
there's one very specific kcls hack in there around |
| 14:54 |
berick |
https://github.com/kcls/evergreen-pub/blob/release/3.11/KCLS/utility-scripts/xml-notices/create-notice-file.pl#L363 |
| 14:54 |
* berick |
got lazy |
| 14:55 |
Bmagic |
we all do it! |
| 14:55 |
Bmagic |
thanks for pointing that out |
| 14:56 |
Dyrcona |
berick: Thanks! |
| 14:56 |
Bmagic |
Alder st... is that the island where you send all your bad patrons? |
| 14:57 |
Dyrcona |
The Island of Misfit Patrons? :) |
| 14:57 |
Bmagic |
It's like lord of the flies over there |
| 14:57 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I'll add the block around line 396 to the copy in the utilities repo, and add the corresponding bit to the template. |
| 14:58 |
Bmagic |
lol, I was just typing something like that to you |
| 14:58 |
Bmagic |
go for it |
| 14:58 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
Looks like there are more changes that should be grabbed... |
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Dyrcona |
I wonder if it would make more sense to wrap a check for "if for_email" around the email address and the text_number below that with a "if for_text" wrapped around it in the template? |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
Hm... That complicates the logic further doesn't it? Because it would seem natural to add another check around the block that prints the street address. |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I copied the minimum of that I think is necessary to the utilities repo. |
| 15:24 |
Dyrcona |
I also pushed a branch to github with the same changes on the a clone of berick's original repository: https://github.com/CWMARSINC/evergreen-xml-notices/tree/cwmars-test (I'm pretty sure that one is public.) |
| 15:27 |
* Dyrcona |
was going to use that on a test system to see how it works. Maybe I'll try that right now. |
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jvwoolf |
csharp_: Do all of the PINES libraries have LibraryIQ, or just some? |
| 15:33 |
csharp_ |
jvwoolf: at this point, just two |
| 15:33 |
csharp_ |
they have not been very pleasant to work with :-/ |
| 15:34 |
csharp_ |
but all that is up to the individual library systems - we just support what the libraries want the best we can |
| 15:35 |
csharp_ |
(DISCLAIMER: opinions my own) |
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jvwoolf |
csharp_: We have 4 including a big system. Helping them out with some location cleanup at this very moment, so they can make more use of the tool. |
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| 16:33 |
Dyrcona |
Well, the test of hold ready for pickup notifications yielded an empty file because the test data is about 17 days out of date. :) |
| 16:36 |
Dyrcona |
I should add for_text to a couple more files.... I was gonna wing it by setting FOR_EMAIL to --for-text. :) |
| 16:43 |
Bmagic |
what's the setting/mechanism that warns catalogers that they are importing a duplicate in the z39.50 interface? |
| 16:48 |
Dyrcona |
I don't remember off the top of my head. I'd have to grep through the code to find it. |
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* mmorgan |
is not an expert but would it be 'Import Match Sets'? |
| 16:54 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan++ I think there's an option in there to do something about duplicates. |
| 16:54 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe more than 1 option. |
| 16:55 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, I'm out for the day. Be back tomorrow. |
| 16:58 |
* mmorgan |
just asked a colleague and she is not aware of anything that actually warns about importing a duplicate in the z39.50 interface. |
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