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Results for 2016-07-21

12:00 jeff "As can be expected, this can produce extreme volumes of data"
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12:24 _bott_ I've got a test 2.10 install, and while logged into the web client, I'm getting multiple calls to open-ils.auth.session.retrieve per second while the session is sitting idle.  If left sitting, it quickly logs thousands of requests.
12:25 berick that sounds familiar..
12:25 berick maybe something to do with the auth timeout setting
12:29 tsbere that, to me, sounds like background updating of something going nuts
12:32 berick _bott_: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2016-06-14#i_253093
12:36 _bott_ berick:++
13:21 jeff ack. I didn't file a bug on that one.
13:22 * jeff does so
13:26 jeff really not liking that i seem to get hung apache processes when testing webstaff stuff.
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13:26 berick jeff: are they regular apache procs or websocket procs?
13:27 jeff i don't think it's a problem with mod_websocket, because it's the main apache instance... but it could be something that's only encountered on a system that sits idle.

Results for 2016-07-20

16:22 gmcharlt however, over next few days I'll deal with relevant pullrequests and cut a release next week
16:23 hbrennan gmcharlt++
16:26 JBoyer gmcharlt++
16:27 kmlussier gmcharlt++
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17:17 * kmlussier wonders if there's a specific reason we remove the "show more details" button from the grouped record results page.
17:22 kmlussier Bmagic: I need to do more testing, but, so far, I'm getting much better results with bug 1403907. I'll continue poking at it tomorrow.
17:22 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1403907 in Evergreen "E-resources not included in ver 2.7.1 Group formats and editions search" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403907
17:23 kmlussier Bmagic++
17:23 jeffdavis kmlussier: AFAIK the OPAC isn't capable of amaglamating the holdings etc from multiple grouped records into a single display, so "show more details" in that context would have no effect anyhow

Results for 2016-07-19

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07:35 bshum gmcharlt++ phasefx++ # live test server resurrection
07:36 bshum Those perl errors match what Dyrcona and I were finding a few weeks ago when we were running the perl live tests through the paces on our own.
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15:54 berick kmlussier: do you mean in general or specifically with --skip-viable?
15:54 kmlussier In general
15:54 kmlussier I think that's been part of the issue. Sometimes, staff are reluctant to use the checkin modifier to retarget holds because it times out.
15:54 berick yes, that new code as a whole is faster for me in all tested scenarios.  sometimes, a lot faster
15:55 kmlussier Oh really? That's good to hear.
15:55 berick ohh, for a single copy
15:55 kmlussier A single copy with lots of holds on it.
15:56 berick i would expect it to be faster targeting a single copy, but I did not test that explicitly.  I was mainly focused on batch targeting.
15:56 * kmlussier nods
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Results for 2016-07-18

16:41 yboston it is a very rare situation that parons ask IT if they can change their usernames, suaully because of a marriage or a divorce
16:42 yboston BTW, I would be using their offical email address from the instituation the belong too (to be clear)
16:42 yboston thanks everyone, need to log off. Take care alll
16:58 phasefx bshum: http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/ is back up, thanks to gmcharlt
17:01 phasefx some live test errors
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Results for 2016-07-14

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12:33 Dyrcona Oh, the query finished some time ago, btw. It produced a 596MB output file.
12:34 Dyrcona In case anyone is curious....It's a test of a Novelist On-the-Shelf extract.
12:37 Dyrcona tsbere++ # For pointing out the -P footer=false psql option to me today.
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13:19 kmlussier Is there a git command I can use to find the branches I signed off on during a certain time period?
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14:23 mmorgan kmlussier: Dyrcona: Yes, we ended up with Stripe.
14:24 Dyrcona Where I am presently uses PayPal, but they're looking at POS systems that use other processors and for reasons would like to keep everything on the same processor.
14:25 mmorgan We did all our initial testing with PayPal. Switching to Stripe at the last minute was surprisingly easy.
14:27 Dyrcona Yeah. My hope is that if I can find Business::OnlinePayment::<Processor> that the set up won't be too difficult.
14:28 jeff setup generally is less of an issue than PCI DSS scope
14:29 mmorgan Dyrcona: To switch from paypal to stripe, we just switched the library settings
15:02 miker JBoyer: the former is unpossible
15:03 berick JBoyer: i worked for me about 18 months ago.  never looked back ;)
15:04 Dyrcona Oh R'lyeh?
15:04 JBoyer I suppose that goes without question. I may have overestimated the awfulness of installing what Evergreen needs for EDI. :) The edi_webrick.rb daemon is running without complaint, I guess I just need to test it.
15:05 Dyrcona I've never had a good time installing anything that required Ruby because versions.
15:05 JBoyer Dyrcona, Yes, R'lyeh
15:05 JBoyer That's why I'm skeptical that it appears to be functional.
15:24 Dyrcona Probably. I couldn't get it to install on Ubuntu 16.04, but I didn't spend more than 45 minutes on it.
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16:27 jeff Is anyone aware of more than one company making use of open-ils.collections API calls?
16:27 jeff Anyone using them internally for other than testing, or anyone using them with a third party other than Unique?
16:39 jeffdavis I had never even noticed that service before
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16:44 Dyrcona jeff: I'm not aware of anyone other than Unique using it.

Results for 2016-07-13

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09:58 mmorgan Dyrcona: I should be able to have it done for beta in mid August.
10:00 Dyrcona OK. Thanks. That will help me answer if anyone asks.
10:01 Dyrcona If you want any help or someone to test, let me know.
10:02 mmorgan Dyrcona: Thanks!
11:24 Dyrcona Hmm... It's looking like there will be no reason for a 2.9.7 release next week.
11:24 Dyrcona That's fine with me, as I'm on vacation next week.
12:57 Bmagic I noticed that it was running when nothing was going on in the UI
12:57 Bmagic it was fun to watch though!
12:57 Bmagic I just found the mouseover tooltip! Very cool
13:06 Dyrcona Nice. I tried sending an email as a test and the message was frozen.
13:06 Dyrcona Now, exim says the message doesn't exist, though it is clearly there when I check the queue.
13:07 Dyrcona Oops.
13:07 Dyrcona That's l not 1.

Results for 2016-07-12

06:40 jwl Also when I restart I see Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message but the eg.conf file has ServerName set for :80 and :443
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07:42 JBoyer @later tell jwl There aren't currently sysv or upstart startup scripts for the OpenSRF services. I made some that can be customized here (you only really need th first two for testing): http://pastie.org/10058161
07:42 pinesol_green JBoyer: The operation succeeded.
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08:53 jeff heh:

Results for 2016-07-11

09:53 Dyrcona That looks like your jabber passwords are not all correct.
09:54 jwl Hm, I set all the passwords everywhere to the same value in order to avoid that problem.
09:54 Dyrcona Mabye you missed one or two in the file...
09:55 Dyrcona I use the same passwords for ejabberd in testing, myself.
09:55 jwl in the opensrf.xml file?
09:55 Dyrcona Yeah, check there, too.
09:55 jwl Too?  Where else?
11:29 Dyrcona jwl: Obviously, the password isn't right or something else is wrong. At this point, you'll have to do some log diving, etc.
11:30 * Dyrcona has never had an issue with authentication when everything is supposedly working.
11:30 jwl I tried running evergreen as root. No help
11:30 Dyrcona As a test, you can try logging in via the OPAC at eg/opac/home
11:30 Dyrcona Never run as root.
11:31 Dyrcona It's not necessary.
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Results for 2016-07-08

13:00 * dbs finds wp login credentials, yayz
13:03 kmlussier Easier for more end users to edit.
13:05 dbs WP has revision control and history for pages. Like, for example, if you don't like what I did with version 1.30 of https://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads you can revert to 1.28 :)
13:05 bshum I might revise that to say "initial support" since only the crazy people have been testing Xenial :D
13:06 dbs sure
13:06 bshum dbs++
13:06 dbs But hey, the Venn diagram showing "crazy people" and "active supporters" shows pretty much a complete overlap, so

Results for 2016-07-07

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16:56 jeff huh. "adjust to zero" isn't in the web staff client that i can see.
16:57 Dyrcona Hmm. I never looked for it there.
16:58 Dyrcona Is this on your regular installation or a concerto test instance?
16:58 Dyrcona I ask because in the xul staff client whether or not the option displays is based on permissions.
16:59 * jeff nods
16:59 jeff i have the permission, i don't see the option in the web staff client, i do see the option in the xul client.

Results for 2016-07-05

15:48 csharp Bmagic: sorry - afk for a while - I'll take a look tomorrow
16:03 Bmagic tsbere: yeah, I have been updating  both /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml and /openils/var/web/reports/fm_IDL.xml
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16:47 bshum phasefx++ # infinite loop testing
16:48 jlitrell That sounds like it could take a while.
16:48 * tsbere isn't entirely sure he would want to test in an infinite loop
16:48 tsbere ;_
16:48 tsbere er, ;)
16:49 * phasefx likes breaking things; it's his super-power
16:53 gsams phasefx++ #break all the things, for science.
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Results for 2016-07-01

11:58 tsbere First was Republic Wireless, the new one is Google Fi
11:59 Dyrcona Might be worth it. Republic is popular with AARP members, 'cause they give 'em discounts.
12:00 * bshum really enjoyed Project Fi from Google for the brief months he used it
12:00 tsbere Admittedly, I haven't been able to test either myself, but I imagine that technically applies to the majority of the entries in that table
12:12 tsbere Not interested enough to Launchpad it, but if someone else wants to go to that effort: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wo​rking/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=r​efs/heads/user/tsbere/sms_carriers
12:14 * Dyrcona is killing connectby with fire this time.
12:32 * berick chuckles at firing up 13 parellel hold targeters and processing the concerto data set in 7 seconds.
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12:43 StomproJ tsbere, if you add an SMS carrier, want to remove Alltel, they seem to no longer exist.
12:46 tsbere StomproJ: I add based on people telling me patrons asked about them. Removal would require research. ;)
13:01 bos20k Hello. I am creating relative proximity adjustments. We are using the item_circ_lib and hold_pickup_lib when creating them. This is in a consortium. My question is, can I use the org unit ids from the system level, or do I need to use the org unit ids from the branch level? I would like to use the system level org unit ids but I am thinking it won't work right unless I use the branch level ones.
13:04 Dyrcona Lots of problems with tests using Perl 5.22.
13:10 bshum bos20k: If it works like most things, I would expect the more specific you are, the more exact it'll match up with the org unit for behavior.  If you're specific to the branch, then it should treat it only when dealing with those branches.  if system, then it ought to apply to that level and all its children.
13:11 bshum If memory serves, most of the time we used system level rules, we wanted it to apply to that location and all underlying branches.
13:11 bshum That being said, I don't recall exactly how relative proximity adjustments operate.
14:38 Dyrcona @later tell bshum Yes, I did use admin demo123, unless I typoed it.
14:38 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
14:41 Dyrcona Yep, I did. Just logged in to make sure.
14:50 Dyrcona live_t/17-lp1579225_new_patron_passwords.t .... Dubious, test returned 25 (wstat 6400, 0x1900)
14:51 Dyrcona We're also getting this with Perl 5.22 on two tets: Possible precedence issue with control flow operator at /home/opensrf/Evergreen/Open-ILS/src/p​erlmods/blib/lib/OpenILS/SIP/Patron.pm line 353.
14:51 Dyrcona I'm guessing that is code that I wrote.
14:52 Dyrcona So, with clean master on Xenial, that one test fails and two others spit out a message.
14:54 Dyrcona Nope. Not my code.
14:54 Dyrcona I figured it was 'cause I recently edited that file.
14:58 bshum Okie dokie :(
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15:20 bshum Hmm, my trusty VM exploded on part of negative balances live perl test, and then utterly died with the patron password test
15:20 bshum I'll reload my DB and double check
15:27 Dyrcona For the benefit of the channel, I'm only failing on the patron password test after 3 or 4 times reloading the database.
15:30 berick Dyrcona: does reloading the DB mean dropping and re-create the EG db, then adding concerto?
15:31 Dyrcona berick: Yes, that is what it means. I used eg_db_config to recreate the database.
15:31 Dyrcona There's a field in the use that is an arrayref, and that doesn't look right to me. The error is from trying to update a user.
15:32 Dyrcona I'd expect a fleshed object.
15:32 Dyrcona I'm going to try the pgtap tests, next.
15:32 Dyrcona just have to install the extension.
15:36 bshum Dyrcona: Fresh Xenial VM with concerto, etc.  Neg balances works fine, but that patron password test still dies horribly
15:36 bshum So that's now four attempts with fresh DBs where that test blows up consistently for me
15:36 Dyrcona That's what I see, too.
15:37 Dyrcona I'm going to try pgtap tests with the right db credentials, this time. :)
15:39 Dyrcona not much typing the password over and over again. :)
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15:39 Dyrcona not much fun that is.
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15:43 Dyrcona pgtap tests and live tests are all successful.
15:43 Dyrcona t/regress also pass.
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15:50 bshum Well, fwiw, Dyrcona, I can't replicate yours and bott's issue with patron registration on my Xenial VM running EVG master and PG 9.5.  I'll try again later and also maybe try out the working branch further to really kill connectby() stuff.  It'll be good regardless.
15:52 Dyrcona I haven't mentioned the branch on the LP bug, yet. I'm gonna fix it up prettier later.
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16:03 bshum Right, I'm just saying I can't get patron editor to break so far.
16:03 bshum I did test the function call though and that is broken for sure.
16:03 bshum So whatever we do to kill connectby is +1 from me :)
16:03 bshum Maybe it's a browser thing
16:04 * bshum uses Chrome
16:11 StomproJ Can someone show me an example of a srfsh request for a service with multiple arguments please, I'm having trouble figuring it out.
16:12 StomproJ I'm trying something like (test system, so not worried about the auth key)    request open-ils.actor open-ils.actor.invalidate.email "ec144954b1df8f1d09894fc81​ebf322c",'','','',"natcho@taco.com"
16:13 tsbere StomproJ: I think you can space-delimit instead of comma-delimit
16:14 StomproJ Thanks, I wonder why the srfsh help screen for request says "so add commas if there is more than on param"?
16:15 * tsbere isn't sure he has ever actually looked at that help screen <_<

Results for 2016-06-30

10:46 mmorgan miker++
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11:31 jvwoolf Hi folks! I'm curious anybody is using this OUS: Target copies for a hold even if copy's circ lib is closed IF the circ lib is the hold's pickup lib
11:32 jvwoolf We have tested it with two libraries, they haven't noticed much of a difference.
11:36 mmorgan jvwoolf: We have this set to true for all of our libraries.
11:37 mmorgan We still have situations where the hold gets retargeted before the library can act on it.
11:38 jvwoolf mmorgan: Does that happen often?
15:36 Dyrcona bzr liboxide-qt and more.
15:37 Dyrcona "How bizarre...." :)
15:40 Dyrcona Yeah, it works after fixing eth0 to ens3.
15:41 Dyrcona Timezone is UTC despite the config saying America/New_York, but I'll leave it to test some branches.
15:42 Dyrcona Hmm. Getting to the vm from the laptop works, but getting to the internet from the vm, not so much.
15:44 JBoyer I wish the installer "choose a timezone" screen listed the same options as dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, because Ubuntu defaults to HAST or some other strangeness for Indiana even though we gave up and went regular EST/EDT years ago. :-/
15:44 tsbere Dyrcona: Sounds like you don't have NAT for the bridge interface working

Results for 2016-06-29

10:30 tsbere berick: I can confirm that the "# TODO: Should this include 'R' holds? ..." comment regarding parts should be a "no, it should not be included there". F and R should be treated identically at the targeter level.
10:31 berick tsbere: thanks!  I'll remove that comment
10:32 * tsbere wonders how difficult it would be to do the "potential copies" dance once for multiple holds (same type/target/pickup location/selection ou/selection depth?) to speed some things up...
10:35 csharp berick++
10:35 csharp we're gonna start testing that on a test server in the next week or so
10:37 berick tsbere: yeah i could see that.. have the batch mode group by target+type and churn over the same initial copy set (minus any that get targeted in the process).
10:37 berick csharp++
10:38 tsbere berick: Well, you would need the ones targeted in the process for potentials still, and the selection ou/depth would need to be included as well.
11:16 JBoyer Usually around upgrade time though. (WHY U NO WORK? Oh, already did that a while back...)
11:18 jeff oh, in terms of trying to apply a local patch/branch? :-)
11:20 tsbere I love it when I conflict with my own code in a customization branch (customized patch in branch, uncustomized made it into master...)
11:24 JBoyer jeff, Sometimes, more excitingly when testing db upgrades.
11:31 Dyrcona I love it when two customizations conflict with each other......
11:31 csharp jwl: there are probably pre-built tools out there, but you might look into MARC::Record if you want to write perl scripts around creating/manipulating MARC
11:31 Dyrcona Even after rebasing....
11:36 Bmagic StJoesCollege: yes, the action trigger stuff requires a server side cron job
11:36 tsbere StJoesCollege: Do you have an email system in place on the servers? Are you running the example cron jobs? Are the A/T event definitions enabled?
11:37 StJoesCollege we do have an email system
11:37 StJoesCollege it works, ive tested the email from inside the evergreen client.
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11:38 Bmagic StJoesCollege: Generally you designate one of your app servers to do the work. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=evergreen-user:action_trigger
11:39 dbwells StJoesCollege: Here is some more polished documenation for notices, though perhaps less complete: http://en.flossmanuals.net/evergreen-in-act​ion/sending-gentle-reminders-to-your-users/
15:28 mmorgan bmills: By default, the normalizers active in Evergreen change apostrophes into spaces.
15:28 bmills some example bits http://pastebin.com/7PkNGMth for this guy: http://catalog.sage.eou.edu/eg/opac/record/1178516
15:30 * mmorgan looks for more info
15:31 bmills tsbere: was hoping to not have to do a mass re-index, but that could be it. restored our db into a test vm and the normalization issues don't seem to be occurring there..
15:31 * jeff raises an eyebrow
15:32 * tsbere has also raised an eyebrow as he didn't think a restored DB would be re-indexed, so the normalization issues should still be there
15:33 bmills maybe i'm mistaken, but it was from a pg_dump of the database. don't the indexes get recreated in that process?
15:35 jeff on both the restored db and on production?
15:36 bmills jeff: just checked. only the one there too
15:37 jeff good!
15:40 mmorgan We plan to change our production database to use NACO normalization rather than the default Search normalization with our next upgrade. We've been testing it on our training system and like what we're seeing for the most part.
15:41 mmorgan On our training server, "I've got our number" gets hits.
15:41 bmills mmorgan: thanks for looking! we did an in place upgrade to 9.3 not too long ago, wondering if something might happened there..
15:42 mmorgan bmills: It's not a postgres thing, but an Evergreen config.
15:44 bmills mmorgan: i've done some searches on other evergreen catalogs that i'm assuming are using the default search_normalize and the "i've got your number" and "all these things i've done" titles seem to pull up ok in title searches. so i think it's us being borked somewhere
15:45 jeff bmills: same results with title and keyword searches?
15:45 jeff i suppose i could test that part myself.
15:46 bmills jeff: keyword brings up those title just fine
15:47 Bmagic same here "I've got your number" works
15:54 bmills jeff++ mmorgan++ tsbere++ thanks! i'll keep at it

Results for 2016-06-28

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10:39 Dyrcona When testing email changes to your script, it helps to not typo the recipient email address.
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10:45 Bmagic Can statistical categories be setup to "show" / "suggest" / "require" in patron registration?
10:45 jeff you can require them.
11:56 jeffdavis Dyrcona: missed your question yesterday - Z39.50 server response times are still super slow even when zurl points at localhost rather than a separate OPAC server :(
11:57 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Well, I didn't necessarily expect it to be faster. We made the move for stability.
11:58 Dyrcona Also, our zurl points to a server other than the one that runs simple2zoom, now, but that may not matter much.
11:59 Dyrcona jeffdavis: How are you testing response times? yaz-client?
12:02 bshum jeffdavis: Also kind of curious, which version of yaz you're using with the service (the one that shipped with Ubuntu 12.04 was terribad, so we always used the yaz repo off indexdata direct to get the best of the best)
12:02 bshum It's probably not related, but just call me curious :D
12:05 jeffdavis I've been testing with yaz-client 4.2.18
12:06 Bmagic Anyone know of a request/wishlist item where Evergreen should automatically bill patrons on a regular bases AKA: non-resident fee ?
12:06 jeffdavis the server itself is running 4.2.30 which I believe is what comes with Ubuntu 14.04
12:10 bshum jeffdavis: So you're basing slow off the "elapsed time" for a given search parameter against your zurl target, and then comparing that with timings for searches done via the catalog directly?

Results for 2016-06-20

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11:35 bmagic_golive Hello all, I am setting the "default printer and print a test page" for Label. Anyone else get a dos window launching notepad?
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11:57 jeff Bmagic: sounds like you have an alternate print strategy chosen.
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Results for 2016-06-16

10:16 miker or just add the appropriate setting value to the regex
10:33 jeff I think the simplest for now is change /\/staff.*/ to /!\/\/staff.*/
10:33 mmorgan jeff: We like your password reset form that can take a username or barcode in the same box. Can you share how you accomplished that?
10:33 jeff now i'm wondering how to write a test for this.
10:35 Dyrcona jeff: karma?
10:35 * Dyrcona needs to look into tests for web staff client, too.
10:37 Dyrcona @karma
10:37 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (39), "kmlussier" (37), "jeff" (31), "Dyrcona" (31), and "yboston" (26).  Lowest karma: "source" (-1), "drupal" (-1), "marc" (-1), "reports" (-1), and "Vandelay." (-1).  You (Dyrcona) are ranked 3 out of 87.
10:38 Dyrcona source++

Results for 2016-06-15

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09:27 kmlussier :(
09:28 Dyrcona berick is working on making the ruby unnecessary, and I've been meaning to look at that branch, but....time.
09:28 kmlussier Yeah, I was just looking at that. I wish I knew how to test it.
09:29 Dyrcona Right now, you just run the new code on an order and compare the output to what's in the database.
09:30 Dyrcona And, monthly maintenance releases are on the calendar for today.
09:31 kmlussier I can take care of release notes as soon as I send a couple of e-mails off.
10:11 csharp is webby.evergreencatalog.com relatively up-to-date?
10:13 * csharp works under the assumption that it is
10:13 dbs Dyrcona++ # good finding! maybe share that on a performance tips and tricks page or something?
10:14 csharp berick: awesome - looking to test your EDI branch in the coming weeks
10:14 kmlussier csharp: My understanding is that it has the latest web client code that's in master plus the webstaff-sprint3 branch
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10:24 Dyrcona dbs: I may just do that if time permits.
10:26 csharp kmlussier: awesome - thanks
10:26 berick csharp: great.  if you (and anyone else who tests) find local tweaks that are not represented in the code, let me know.  i'll add edi attrs for them.
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11:05 pinesol_green jeff: (rss <name|url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
11:06 jeff @rss list
11:06 pinesol_green jeff: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
11:06 jeff @rss tests
11:06 pinesol_green jeff: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
11:06 * jeff takes it to msg
11:06 jeff rss qatests
11:06 jeff @rss qatests
11:06 pinesol_green jeff: 11:06 AM, June 15, 2016: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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11:12 Dyrcona Not much to do about "database "evergreen" is being accessed by other users" in the code.
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11:15 jeff on Debian Jessie, "make check" for Evergreen is failing for me unless I manually manipulate LDFLAGS in Open-ILS/src/c-apps/tests/Makefile
11:15 jeff I needed to add -lpthread -lm -lrt
11:17 jeff (which is obviously not the way to correct the problem long-term)
11:17 kmlussier It looks like the perl live tests started failing on May 31?
11:18 Dyrcona jeff: I would think configure would pick those up.
11:19 Dyrcona Do the tests actually relink/recompile code?
11:20 Dyrcona kmlussier: Those live test failures could be because the database was not rebuilt.
11:20 kmlussier Yeah, I was just coming around to that.
11:20 Dyrcona Many of the tests fail after being run once.
11:21 * Dyrcona tries to write his so that they can be run more than once on the same database, but may not always succeed.
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11:27 jeff Dyrcona: i think "make check" compiles and links things that are not normally built -- somewhat similar for perl tests would be if Test::More could not be found, etc.
11:28 jeff it compiles and links some small test binaries.
11:29 Dyrcona OK. I've not looked at it very much. I often just run the pgtap or perl tests individually.
11:29 Dyrcona I haven't run make check in a while.
11:32 dbs Yeah, 'make check' is for C tests
11:37 jeff okay, i'm done testing bug 1592565 and i'm ready to write release notes and pick to master and rel_2_10. Am I correct in thinking that I only need to put release notes in master and they'll be backported to rel_2_10 just prior to the next point release being cut?
11:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1592565 in Evergreen "2.10 Login code lost key activity log message" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592565 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
11:40 Dyrcona jeff: Point release is today, but I haven't heard anything from gmcharlt today, so don't know what he thinks about pushing something in right now.
11:41 jeff or am I off and bugfixes get zero release notes, and are just summarized manually... looks like that's the case.
12:39 bshum Looks like rlefaive had a similar issue on http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2016-04-26#i_243991 ; I wonder if it's something based on the Ubuntu image
12:39 bshum sam_l: What 14.04 image did you use?  The 64-bit server edition?
12:40 * bshum checked the logs but didn't see a resolution noted by rlefaive or others on later days
12:45 jeff gmcharlt: bug 1592891 is also a candidate for 2.10.5. i can write tests also, if you'd like.
12:45 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1592891 in Evergreen "SIP2 failures with certain kinds of user standing penalties" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592891 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
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12:46 kmlussier Release notes are done, but I'll hold off on merging the 2.10 notes until I hear back on whether the SIP2 fix makes it in.
12:48 sam_l bshum: Yep, 64-Bit Server.
12:48 Dyrcona jeff: Good catch on that penalties bug.
12:49 jeff Dyrcona: thanks! sorry i didn't bug it until now -- sorta' fell into a SIP2 rabbit hole.
12:59 gmcharlt jeff: I agree it's a candidate. go forth and write tests!
12:59 jeff doing so! :-)
13:06 sam_l bshum: rebooted the server instance, and it's now running properly.
13:07 bshum sam_l: Oh cool, I was just about to suggest restarting apache
13:48 jeffdavis I have a use case that requires a site-specific one right now though.
13:48 Dyrcona If you have some spare hardware, you could try what I mentioned earlier and set up a self-contained Evergreen instance just for z39.50.
13:49 jeffdavis Our Z39.50 service is hosted on a separate utility server, not the main ones that are hit when people use the OPAC or staff client.
13:49 jeff gmcharlt, Dyrcona, anyone else interested: tests pushed and pullrequest tag added to bug 1592891
13:49 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1592891 in Evergreen "SIP2 failures with certain kinds of user standing penalties" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592891 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
13:49 Dyrcona OK. That's the best way to set it up.
13:50 jeff and... removing myself from assigned.
13:50 Dyrcona jeff: Thanks. I will not have time to test it today.
13:50 jeff Dyrcona: no problem. didn't mean to imply that expectation by mentioning you. :-)
13:51 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Z searches go through multiple layers, so I expect it to be a little slower than regular search.
13:51 Dyrcona jeff: NP. Just saying....
13:52 jeff Dyrcona++ for writing tests worth copying, also.
13:52 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Is your zurl pointing at the utility server or back to your OPAC?
13:53 JBoyer I wondered about that, because we also run the Z stuff on a separate machine, but it currently points right back to the OPAC, which I'm planning to change soon.
13:53 Dyrcona The simple2zoom service is very lightweight. I found the supercat searches to be the real resource hogs.
14:01 kmlussier @marc 775
14:01 pinesol_green kmlussier: The entry for another available edition of the target item (horizontal relationship). When a note is generated from this field, the introductory phrase Other editions available: may be generated based on the field tag for display. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8]
14:01 Dyrcona I have a script to monitor the number of drones on the drone server, but haven't set it up on the zurl target.
14:01 Dyrcona And, look at that: I have a 2.9.6 tarball to test.
14:03 * Dyrcona should really document the z stuff
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14:54 jeff force pushed a fixup commit to the tests on bug 1592891 (noticed a function was unnecessary, edited comments a bit)
14:54 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1592891 in Evergreen "SIP2 failures with certain kinds of user standing penalties" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592891
15:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Forward port 2.9.5 to 2.9.6 upgrade script. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e1853b2>
15:17 Dyrcona gmcharlt: FYI: 2.9.6 tarball is uploaded to the server, but not in place, yet.
15:20 gmcharlt yeah
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15:27 Dyrcona I've put the downloads files in place, except the readme and release notes.
15:39 jeff gmcharlt: are you intending / able to test and merge the sip bugfix, or would you like me to solicit a willing co-conspirator?
15:40 gmcharlt jeff: I am willing and able, but even happier if you find a willing co-conspirator to test and signoff first
15:43 jeff also, since i remember we had at least one time that we duplicated perl live test numbers, should i leave tests unnumbered?
15:43 jeff or rely on the merging party to re-number if needed at that time?
15:46 jeff in this case i numbered the test. just wondered if we had a general concensus on that for next time.
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15:53 kmlussier I don't think we have a general consensus. I would go with numbering for now.
15:56 Dyrcona Yeah, I agree.
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19:10 jeffdavis I have run out of time to finish testing and signing off on bug 1592891; I'll try to get to it in a couple hours unless someone else gets to it, but not sure I'll make gmcharlt's cutoff for 2.10.5 :(
19:10 pinesol_green` Launchpad bug 1592891 in Evergreen "SIP2 failures with certain kinds of user standing penalties" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592891
19:11 jeffdavis biab
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19:32 jeff jeffdavis++ thanks for trying -- i know it was last minute!
19:35 gmcharlt I'll start work on the release shortly, and will give that patch a fair look
20:22 gmcharlt jeff: jeffdavis: patch suits me; it will be in the release
20:24 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Jeff Godin] LP#1592891: Tests - SIP2 standing penalty failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=56cc12e>
20:24 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1592891: tweak tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=22536d1>
20:24 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Jeff Godin] LP#1592891: Fix SIP2 standing penalty failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5e0c9b3>
20:27 jeffdavis gmcharlt++
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20:30 pinesol_green` [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Adding 2.10 Release Notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=67c6b2a>

Results for 2016-06-14

16:19 berick jeff: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=work​ing/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/​heads/user/berick/login-successs-msg  -- I can push a LP too if needed, but not for another hour or so.
16:19 berick jeff++ # glad you found that one
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16:25 jeff bwahahaha....
16:30 jeff $timeout( function() { ... }, service.authtime() * 1000 + 5000 );
16:32 jeff that was half of why my clients are requesting open-ils.auth.session.retrieve over and over.
16:32 jeff the other can be seen with a call to window.localStorage.getItem('eg.auth.time')
16:32 jeff which returns "999999999"
16:44 jeff and since $timeout wraps window.setTimeout, whose delay is stored as a 32-bit signed int by browsers "including Internet Explorer, Chrome, Safari, and Firefox", we get a whole bunch of calls to open-ils.auth.session.retrieve
16:53 * jeff changes 999999999 to 57600 and tests
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17:09 berick jeff: FYI bug 1592565
17:09 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1592565 in Evergreen 2.10 "2.10 Login code lost key activity log message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592565
17:11 jeff thanks. i'll probably look-test-signoff-merge later tonight if someone doesn't beat me to it.
17:11 jeff berick++
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Results for 2016-06-10

11:21 sam_l bshum++
11:21 sam_l Dyrcona++
11:22 sam_l And OpenSRF is working.
11:23 bshum sam_l++ # testing on xenial :)
11:23 Dyrcona sam_l++
11:24 Dyrcona Hmm... Our opensrf.xml is 104K and I'm about to make it bigger....
11:24 Dyrcona Lots of hostname sections.
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16:32 yboston thanks!
16:37 Dyrcona hmm... maybe I know what my problem was with adding the new drone server earlier. I don't think I had the right config file in place on the server that runs opensrf.settings.
16:37 Dyrcona Not gonna test it, now, though. Too late for that today.
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16:52 yboston rhamby++
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Results for 2016-06-09

11:35 mmorgan NOBLE has a few
11:36 Dyrcona I'm asking, because I see a large number of hits for jackets with a referring URL of one of our libraries with a wowbrary widget and wondered if anyone else has had any trouble with that.
11:36 * Dyrcona is still troubleshooting OPAC issues.
11:38 kmlussier Dyrcona: I don't know if this is related, but bug 1236979 was expected to help with performance issues with services like Wowbrary (I think). I noticed a big performance boost when I tested it.
11:38 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1236979 in Evergreen "Speed up bibs-by-item-age" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1236979
11:38 kmlussier Unfortunately, there were some items that weren't exactly in the right order, and we never pinned down why that was.
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Results for 2016-06-06

12:10 kmlussier tsbere++ # For lots of assistance with non-Evergreen stuff.
12:11 tsbere kmlussier: I dunno, I think we can call it slightly-Evergreen, as at least some of it is "where MassLNC discusses what to spend money on developing for Evergreen" ;)
12:11 kmlussier tsbere: Yes, well, anything MassLNC does is related to Evergreen, so that's a fair point.
13:11 terran gmcharlt or kmlussier - after doing some initial testing on LP 1528647 I realized the original code by Bob Wicksall only solved the problem halfway so I added addition code - I've amended my commit, but not sure what I should do about the author - advice?
13:11 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1528647 in Evergreen "Self-check only accepts user name value if regex for barcode not set up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1528647 - Assigned to Terran McCanna (tmccanna)
13:11 terran "addition" = "additional"
13:11 gmcharlt terran: so, Bob's original commit and a follow-up by you?
14:51 kmlussier JBoyer: Linking authorities to each other? That needs to be done for cross-references to appear in the browse list.
14:51 kmlussier But authority_control.pl links authority records to bibs, right?
14:51 JBoyer s to matching fields in bibs, but clicking the Validate button in the editor does nothing but color those fields you don't have records for.
14:52 JBoyer kmlussier: yes. I've run both on a test server and was just curious of the point of the bib links to auth records.
14:52 kmlussier If you update the authority record, it will update all of the bibs it's linked to.
14:52 JBoyer I wondered about that.
14:53 JBoyer But there's no way to link them aside from re-running that script? (if someone edits a field to match a record, say.)
15:05 JBoyer Having seen this interface in action, I'm quite glad that 1. it works, and 2. I'm not a cataloger.
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15:08 JBoyer (Not a UI complaint, I'm just overwhelmed dealing with it for this basic test)
15:10 * jeff_ looks at jeff
15:11 Bmagic_ ha
15:12 * Bmagic_ looks at the beautiful people in the world from the tail world

Results for 2016-06-03

10:03 pinesol_green csharp: I have not seen bwicksall.
10:04 Bmagic Dyrcona: The sandbox is up and I don't have any plans to take it down. You have several weeks
10:04 Dyrcona Bmagic: Thanks. I saw what I needed to see last night.
10:05 Dyrcona I have a sandbox of my own to test the fix.
10:05 * Dyrcona can't believe he made such a silly error. ;)
10:06 kmlussier @dessert 36 [someone]
10:06 * pinesol_green grabs some Boston Cream doughnuts for serflog
14:49 Dyrcona Plus, I get decimals without needing it on both sides.
14:50 Dyrcona BTW, that's my speed up using dbwells patch for metabib.reingest_record_attrs, approximately 2.5X.
14:51 Dyrcona I think my db hardware is the biggest bottleneck in this case.
14:52 dbwells Dyrcona: cool, thanks for the update.  The 7x in my test was for just the attribute reingest step isolated, so it is expected that the overall speedup will be less than that.
14:53 Dyrcona dbwells: my measurements both times were made with this query: SELECT COUNT(metabib.reingest_record_attributes(id)) FROM biblio.record_entry;
14:54 Dyrcona I included deleted ones, both times.
14:54 Dyrcona Still, any increase is better than nothing....
15:44 phasefx jeff++ tsbere++
15:44 tsbere Originally written to be a SIP setting
15:44 * jeff nods
15:44 tsbere But I added the modifier so I didn't have to use SIP to test
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15:44 tsbere and then decided "this is useful" and left it in the client
15:45 jeff useful for: copy has been checked in, but is currently sitting at the bottom of a sorter bin and is not actually ready for pickup yet.
15:45 tsbere Yep. Also useful for "We can't actually give you this for three days due to the release date, but want to get holds capturing now"
15:45 jeff also useful for: "we sometimes check in items at this desk, but we do not want to print hold slips or have the hold become available until it is actually checked in where normal holds are scanned", etc.

Results for 2016-06-02

11:33 berick cuz, you know, I want to sound the right amount of flippant
11:35 csharp @quote add < berick> hm, hope I didn't just sound too flippant...  cuz, you know, I want to sound the right amount of flippant
11:35 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #154 added.
11:36 jeff the grid in the template contains no sort attributes/directives. in some other grids (that might ACTUALLY have non-sortable APIs backing them), they don't get clickable headers in the UI unless I add "sortable" to the eg-grid-fields. Is the click-to-sort handled by auto-fields?
11:36 jeff berick: no, not too flippant. :-)
11:38 * jeff tests and reads more code
11:39 jeff oh, eg-grid with features="-sort,-multisort" -- that explains why this one's not sortable by default, i'll bet.
11:39 jeff unless the - isn't negation there...
11:40 jeff ah.
11:41 jeff those are negation, and those are why i'm not getting sorting. okay.
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11:41 gsams @quote random
11:41 pinesol_green gsams: Quote #57: "< jeff_> nine million useless rows in money.billing, nine million useless rows... take one down, pass it around, eight million nine-hundred and ninety-nine thousand nine-hundred and ninety nine useless rows in money.billing..." (added by csharp at 03:15 PM, May 23, 2013)
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12:05 terran jlundgren++ for signing off on the first patch for today's bug squashing! LP 1548993
12:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1548993 in Evergreen 2.9 "TPAC Show More/Fewer Details Button does not work with show_more_details.default set to true" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548993
12:08 terran (And Dyrcona++ for creating the patch that jlundgren signed off on)
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12:09 terran gmcharlt++ for creating a patch for LP 1566016 which has been tested and signed off on
12:09 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1566016 in Evergreen 2.9 "remove SSN as a stock patron ident type" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1566016
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14:27 yboston sandbergja: got a moment? wanted to ask you about LP 1260458
14:27 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1260458 in Evergreen "diacritics window (ctrl-s) will not always open in the Marc Edit screen" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260458
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14:29 tsbere yboston: You looking to ask questions about the fix, or about their testing?
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14:58 * kmlussier returns to lots of bug mail in her Inbox
16:15 sandbergja yboston: still there?
16:16 sandbergja I've been ignorning IRC more than I should have today, sadly. :-(
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16:21 bshum berick: Did you get to putting together your thoughts for the angular 1.5 target issue?  For me, I did a quick test by putting a ~ in front of 1.5.5 for angular, making the line like:  "angular": "~1.5.5"
16:21 bshum berick: That allowed it to select angular 1.5.6 and go through without intervention to pick one
16:21 bshum But I wasn't sure if you had alternative solution in mind, with what you were saying about "resolutions"
16:22 Dyrcona terran++
16:24 kmlussier Dyrcona: ehardy and ddale are using the MOBIUS Sandbox. Would you like me to send you access information?
16:24 Dyrcona kmlussier: Thanks, but Terran already did.
16:30 Dyrcona Bmagic kmlussier How long will the sandboxes be up? I may not get to look at that until this evening some time.
16:31 * mmorgan is also hoping for more sandbox time...
16:31 kmlussier Dyrcona: Bmagic will have to answer that question. The MassLNC ones will be up until next week when we move the server, but that doesn't help with this particular bug.
16:32 Dyrcona Well, I can test it on my own vms later, but I did not see that behavior.
16:32 * kmlussier wants another Bug Squashing Day. :(
16:32 Dyrcona I wonder if it is staff client caching or something.
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16:43 rhamby I saw "Dyrcona assumes that whatever they were doing was pathological and killed them." and was sad to look up further and see it was just pids.  I was ready for a great story.
16:43 terran Dyrcona: ehardy is gone for the day, but I'll ask ddale to clear her staff client cache and see if that makes any difference
16:43 Dyrcona However, that vm didn't look overloaded and it was under the max number of opensrf.settings max children.
16:44 Dyrcona terran: Thanks. I'll take another look when I get the chance. I may have to set up a test on my own vm.
16:44 Dyrcona I assume ehardy added the flag to the copy location and then removed it.
16:45 Dyrcona That's one of the conditions that i'll make sure to test.
16:53 terran Dyrcona: ddale just cleared client cache, rebooted, and still seeing the same behavior
16:53 Dyrcona All right.
16:57 Dyrcona Oh, nice. The staff client reads my settings for my concerto client and hangs cause my concerto vm is not running.
17:20 kmlussier ssieb: When the import is done, then, does it bring you to a queue with zero results? Or does it hang while it's importing?
17:23 kmlussier ssieb: Whatever the answer to that question, I think you'll get more clues to what's going wrong if you look in the logs. I usually look in the osrfsys log
17:24 ssieb I get a queue with no results.  Good point about the logs, I hadn't though of that.
17:28 * bshum wrote his email about translations while waiting for i18n dance to complete on his test server
17:32 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP 1548993: Restore Show More/Show Fewer Details button functionality. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bd14556>
17:32 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP 1548993: Remember the Show More/Fewer Details button selection. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7ad3502>
17:36 ssieb kmlussier: I just about missed it, but there is a message each time about not being able to read the file from /tmp.  Now I just have to figure out why...

Results for 2016-06-01

10:37 Dyrcona Anyway, you could very likely get away with a single brick for staff clients, and the rest for public.
10:40 Dyrcona JBoyer: A little digging suggests that Evergreen's mod_perl code might need some work to function properly in a threaded environment.
10:41 Dyrcona Not mod_perl, itself, but the way Evergreen uses mod_perl.
10:41 Dyrcona It would take a day or two of testing to know for sure, though.
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14:20 JBoyer Apparently just changing %T isn't enough. Now that I know it's calling POSIX::strftime I'll see what it claims to support. May require some locale coaxing, we'll see. I'll poke at it. If this solves the "My android phone puts all of your mail in 1969" problem I'll patch it up for master.
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14:25 * kmlussier tries to figure out why bug 1352542 didn't come up when somebody asked for advice last week on a patch to test for bug squashing day.
14:25 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1352542 in Evergreen 2.9 "Printing: LC Call number formatting (2.5.2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352542
14:28 miker JBoyer: I think it's using http://template-toolkit.org/docs/​modules/Template/Plugin/Date.html
14:29 JBoyer Right-o. jeff pointed me in the right direction, now it's time for rabbit-hole-ing. :-/
14:45 * Dyrcona thinks we need add 2 cores to our Apache vm.
14:46 JBoyer Alright, I call shenanigans. I took the whole thing back out and they're all still invalid. Something else is up. Time to fake up a circ for myself.
14:46 Dyrcona We can "steal" a couple from sip.
14:46 Dyrcona JBoyer: I tested date.format(format = '%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %Z') in a template and it looks like valid RFC2822 dates.
14:47 Dyrcona And, we peaked so far at 242 apache drones.
14:47 Dyrcona JBoyer:  Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:47:39 EDT
14:49 JBoyer Dyrcona, Thanks for the sanity check. It looks like the only circs that trigger this event belong to users without emails so I've been chasing my tail for a bit.
15:11 jeffdavis #info DONE: Dyrcona will work on Xenial Xerus Evergreen and OpenSRF support between now and the EG conference - thanks to Dyrcona, csharp, and bshum
15:11 jeffdavis #info DONE: gmcharlt will send an email to the mailing lists announcing the Pg dependency change
15:12 gmcharlt #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, ESI
15:13 jeffdavis last action item was about Sqitch
15:13 jeffdavis i.e. more detailed evaluation/testing thereof
15:13 jeffdavis status according to the agenda: "Bill pushed a version of the Sqitch setup with a reified database (1 schema file and a handful of data files) for discussion. Confirmed Ubuntu 16.04 has a Sqitch package. Need to explore release-building options (presumably via 'sqitch bundle –from foo –to bar'). Probably other stuff too."
15:14 jeffdavis Is there anything else to add or discuss there for now?
15:14 Dyrcona I'd call that "in progress."
15:14 Dyrcona For the sake of the minutes.
15:14 berick 'in progress' sounds good
15:15 Dyrcona I'd just say in progress: action item.
15:15 Dyrcona I don't think the minutes need the detail.
15:16 Dyrcona It'll be in the logs and the agenda.
15:16 jeffdavis #info IN PROGRESS: evaluation/testing of Sqitch
15:16 miker #info miker = Mike Rylander, ESI
15:17 jeffdavis #action developers to continue looking at Sqitch, particularly release-building options
15:17 jeffdavis #topic OpenSRF release
16:04 miker as have I. I like it
16:04 jeff And a good way to cope with the 2234% increase in rows in crad. :-)
16:05 dbwells Alright, maybe that's enough for now.  I will create a bug for it, and post  a few extra thoughts there.
16:05 Dyrcona I've looked at the code, and have a slow server that it would be perfect to test on.
16:05 miker not sure if an index would actually matter, but might be worth testing
16:05 Dyrcona I even have timings for comparison-sake.
16:06 dbwells miker: Yes, an index on ctype also helps, so that's a secondary play.
16:06 jeffdavis #action dbwells to create a bug report for discussing some proposed ingest speed improvements
16:11 berick need sample data from the wild to be sure the new code is covering edge cases
16:11 * Dyrcona can have a look.
16:11 berick in short, moving all logic into Perl and out of the A/T templates
16:12 jeffdavis berick: I'll pass that one along to our support folks to see if we can test
16:12 berick beware to test, you have to install the new code (obviously, i guess) which includes some new DB tables
16:12 berick and data
16:12 berick the code does not yet have a UI for tweaking settings.  that will come later
16:13 berick wanted to be sure this is on the right path first
16:13 berick thanks Dyrcona and jeffdavis
16:13 berick i'll copy the "how to test" instructions from the agenda to the bug
16:13 jeffdavis berick++
16:13 Dyrcona berick++
16:14 jeffdavis Any other new features to discuss before we adjourn?

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