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Results for 2015-02-10

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11:44 * kmlussier is learning more than she ever wanted to know about QA.
11:45 kmlussier I know we are doing build tests and some unit testing, especially after we put some of berick's guidelines from http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki​/doku.php?id=dev:contributing:qa into place.
11:45 kmlussier But are we doing any kind of functional testing in an automated fashion?
11:47 phasefx kmlussier: are you thinking UI testing?
11:47 phasefx we do have the "live" tests against a running system
11:48 kmlussier phasefx: No. I'm thinking, given this input the system should be returning this.
11:48 kmlussier I saw the "live" tests, but wasn't exactly sure what they did.
11:49 tsbere kmlussier: I think the live tests are "Given this input and a known DB state, the system should be returning this"
11:50 kmlussier OK, so that's what I was looking for. I think. :)
11:50 tsbere (which doesn't mean that any UI elements work, in that case, but would cover backend calls)
11:50 phasefx and the unit tests are "given this input, this code chunk should always return this"
11:53 kmlussier Hontestly, the way you describe it, I don't see a difference between the unit and live tests.
11:55 tsbere kmlussier: The unit tests are for things that don't require the network to be up. "This utility function should always do the same thing given the same input and doesn't talk to anyone else while doing so"
11:55 phasefx kmlussier: the unit tests are testing pieces of code that are very self-contained.. the live tests require a larger environment in a known state (a running system with stock test database)
11:56 phasefx kmlussier: so you end up testing some interaction between multiple moving parts
11:59 kmlussier phasefx: So is that the same as integration testing?
11:59 phasefx kmlussier: I think so
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Results for 2015-02-09

12:37 csharp damn - I can't find the problem
12:37 csharp fieldmapper looks right, rocit.age_protect <-> crahp.id
12:44 csharp @hates
12:44 pinesol_green csharp hates dojo_hold_policies_interface; SIP; when libraries purchase third party products without testing and blame Evergreen for it not working; reports; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa; evil; reports more; reports even moar; details; reports even more; the fact that the Base Filters is unnecessarily greyed out (1 more message)
12:45 csharp @more
12:45 pinesol_green csharp: when applying an Aggregate Filter and vice versa even more; having to teach SIP2 client vendors about the SIP2 specification; troubleshooting reports; money reports; and marc
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16:04 * jeff is seeing "grunt test" fail in rel_2_7 and master at present
16:04 jeff since I haven't run these tests before, I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong.
16:06 berick got a paste?
16:06 jeff output is here: https://gist.github.com/jeff/45f872e1899ba6217cd0 -- it obviously can't find/load angular, but i'm not sure where to start
16:08 jeff oh hey, and now it works.
17:06 mrpeters1 sorry, i got distracted and didn't finish my thought there -- should a 1 hour overdue have a 1 hour processing delay?
17:06 mrpeters1 wouldn't that cause a notice not to be sent until it was actually 2 hours overdue?  also, the Max Event Validity -- its set to 2 hours -- if a cron job failed to run to "run pending" within that 2 hour window, would that cause the notice to fail to be sent?
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Results for 2015-02-08

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17:34 dcook I was wondering who said my name...
17:34 dcook @coffee [someone]

Results for 2015-02-07

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Results for 2015-02-06

12:48 gmcharlt goood: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/O​penSRF.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab​/gmcharlt/better_osrf_control_diagnostic
13:02 kmlussier Woo hoo! Booked my hotel room for the conference. :)
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13:13 phasefx berick: I was trying a variant of the script in bug#1268619 to test websockets prior to installing anything EG (including dojo).  And I found I had to include opensrf_ws.js manually, and after calling .send(), I also had to call .session.send_ws() on the request object.  Does that sound crazy?
13:16 phasefx http://paste.lisp.org/display/145683
13:19 phasefx the manual part doesn't sound crazy, the path is hard-coded in opensrf.js
13:21 phasefx okay <rubber ducking>, so if I change the transport from OSRF_TRANSPORT_TYPE_WS_SHARED to OSRF_TRANSPORT_TYPE_WS, I can just do req.send() and it works
13:24 berick phasefx: OSRF_TRANSPORT_TYPE_WS_SHARED is currently disabled.  send_ws() is the underyling handler for OSRF_TRANSPORT_TYPE_WS.
13:24 berick so even though it was set to OSRF_TRANSPORT_TYPE_WS_SHARED, you were forcing it to run as non-shared by calling send_ws() directly
13:25 berick when you changed to OSRF_TRANSPORT_TYPE_WS, the send_ws() was no longer needed
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16:41 csharp amazing... with dbwells's fix with jboyer-isl's modifications, my nearly two-hour query dropped to 4 seconds
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16:48 dbwells csharp: Sorry for being lazy on the COALESCE, I only did a quick test on lower ids which had a legacy_circ_count entry (which should be, I think, the only number needing a COALESCE).
16:56 dbwells This should work:  http://pastie.org/9893249
17:01 dbwells I also kept COUNT(*) over COUNT(distinct id) because 1) there are no joins involved, so DISTINCT doesn't do anything for us here, and 2) COUNT(*) is generally recommended when simply counting rows, as it lets the planner pick whatever it thinks is best (which will probably be 'id', but anyway... at least that's what I've been told).
17:05 dbwells In any case, the changes I'm advocating will not affect performance in any measurable way, I think it just helps readability.
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17:30 csharp dbwells: excellent - thank you
17:31 csharp I'll file a bug on this just to get it on the record
17:32 dbwells sounds like a plan

Results for 2015-02-05

09:09 bshum jeff: How did those slip past?
09:11 jeff bshum: staff-side patron editor has no checks for duplicate holdshelf alias. We didn't put effort into closing that loophole.
09:11 bshum Ahh.
09:11 jeff bshum: So at least one of each group is staff or asked staff to set their alias to that value.
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09:12 jeff looking, the duplicate catwoman is a test/training account's alias.
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09:18 mmorgan jeff: speaking of popular - what are you looking at to get the "most popular" titles on your stats page? Circs? Holds? A combination?
09:36 jeff mmorgan: i think i owe you an email regarding that, too!
10:04 eeevil pcrud.js is completely unchanged (now... I was messing with it last night)
10:11 berick eeevil: ok, was able to reproduce locally
10:11 * berick pokes
10:12 eeevil berick: I suspect, but haven't tested, that it happens with every pcrud CUD call
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10:36 berick eeevil: found it.  good stuff
10:36 berick http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=work​ing/OpenSRF.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b25f​487c0acdfa000becbccac6943e24bc0ca77
10:36 berick i'll open an LP
10:37 berick this code path (per-tab connections) got much less testing than the global WS connection code, which had to be disabled, because chrome started acting funky with global connections
10:37 berick will have to revisit that..
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10:46 berick https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1418613
10:46 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1418613 in OpenSRF "Per-tab websocket JS connections can re-send messages" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
11:01 bshum berick: I'm adjusting that entry if I can so that it points at OpenSRF 2.4.1
11:01 bshum Since 2.4.0 was already released last month
12:09 bshum gmcharlt: Sorry I'll fix up 2.7.3 too and create a 2.7.4 for everyone.
12:09 bshum Old, old bug.  Back from my 2.0 days :(
12:10 gmcharlt bshum: ah, great - thanks for catching that!
12:11 bshum gmcharlt: I'm not sure if dbwells has cut 2.6.6.  He might not have yet and it could still get tested and applied there.  But more than likely I expect we'll keep that lock-step on bug fixes in general.
12:11 bshum gmcharlt++ # poking at ancient bugs
12:12 gmcharlt bshum: that's fine - that bug gets hit rarely enough, I think, that testing doesn't need to be super-rushed
12:12 gmcharlt our_customers++ # running into ancient bugs and KEEPING THEM ALIVE
12:13 bshum Reported by Ben Shum on 2011-12-15, zomg :(
12:13 * bshum can't believe how long it's been :\
12:14 bshum Stompro++ # helping to announce new release on list with helpful notes and links!
14:41 remingtron I think I did, but probably asked bshum first
14:41 remingtron basically, he wrote the instructions draft, and he wants some feedback
14:42 remingtron maybe he/we should ask the general and dev lists for help on that
14:42 yboston ats ome point I need to build a new test server to try out the web client, I can give him some feedback at that point
14:43 yboston I can put an action item to reach out to him to see if this has been included in master, and if others have been able to run his intructions
14:43 yboston they look fine to me, bu I have nos tested them yet
14:43 bshum It has not been added up to master yet.
14:43 bshum Sorry, stepped away a sec there.
14:44 bshum I'll work on it with more devs in the coming weeks.
14:44 yboston I can reach out to you when I am ready to build a new VM to test the web client, to make sure I use the latest version
14:45 yboston is there a git branch that has these instructions?
14:45 bshum yboston: I haven't put all the changes into a git branch yet.  That's also on my to-do list I think.
14:45 yboston no worries
14:46 yboston I can move on, but want suggestions on what action item if any we should leave for next meeting for this?
15:02 remingtron kmlussier: are you able to make the wiki page for 2.8 features again?
15:03 kmlussier Yes, I can.
15:03 kmlussier Sorry, I was pulled into another discussion.
15:03 * gmcharlt jumps in to mention that I intend to provision the doc testing server next week
15:03 gmcharlt sorry for hte delay
15:03 kmlussier gmcharlt++
15:04 yboston no problem, you have a lot on your olate
15:04 yboston *plate
15:23 bshum And it doesn't handle things like links.
15:23 bshum At least, it didn't work for the text block where the other stuff lives now.
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15:40 kmlussier eeevil / goood: I may have asked this question before, but I don't recall the answer. Is bug 1251394 ready for testing or does it still need work?
15:40 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1251394 in Evergreen "Metabib Display Fields" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1251394 - Assigned to Mike Rylander (mrylander)
15:45 eeevil kmlussier:  it's just the backend components, but I think they work. nothing knows how to use them yet, though
15:46 kmlussier eeevil: Ah, ok. So if we wanted something to be able to use them, it still needs work.
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Results for 2015-02-04

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12:33 bshum Bleh
12:33 Dyrcona I'll make a fix and post it to Launchpad.
12:33 Dyrcona After lunch.
12:34 bshum Dyrcona++ # thanks for testing that in your system.
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14:12 kmlussier I'm guessing it's important to those sites using boundaries.
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14:15 tsbere kmlussier: At least I saw it as important enough to test and post to launchpad, right?
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14:36 bshum Dyrcona++
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15:10 bshum Again.
15:10 dbwells bshum: Is metabib.reingest_metabib_field_entries not enough?  I need to check to remember what exactly it does and doesn't do.
15:11 bshum dbwells: I'm unsure.
15:15 dbwells It's not the right piece.
15:18 dbwells I think we need metabib.reingest_record_attributes() in this case.  Let me see if I can test it out a bit.
15:26 dbwells bshum: based on my testing, SELECT metabib.reingest_record_attributes(id); is sufficient for this situation.  Paste forthcoming...
15:30 pastebot "dbwells" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "Partial Reingest Addendum For Upgrade Script" (24 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/30
15:35 Dyrcona Is there a test script floating around to see if Python is working correctly with Evergreen?
15:35 Dyrcona I did --enable-python 'cause I eventually want to see if I can get constrictor working.
15:35 bshum dbwells++
15:35 bshum I'll tack that on and get the tarball finished to push up to the website

Results for 2015-02-02

15:56 eeevil and, berick, do you know of any version restrictions we need to be aware of with the version of angular we're on?
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16:03 jeff eeevil: defaulting to jquery CDN and making it reasonably easy to override?
16:03 berick eeevil: hmm, looks like we should start by testing 2.1
16:03 berick "Angular 1.3 only supports jQuery 2.1 or above. jQuery 1.7 and newer might work correctly with Angular but we don't guarantee that.
16:03 berick "
16:03 eeevil berick: yep. just saw that. I'm importing 2.1.3 from the cdn
16:04 berick jeff: I assume we'd want to eventually deploy it ourselves, in the same manner we deploy angular and other deps
16:04 eeevil jeff: it's just a template ... so, as long as it loads
16:04 berick .. so we can scrunch it all into a single file
16:06 berick we'd probably have to deploy it locally for unit tests, too
16:06 berick i'm sure there's a bower target for jquery, though, so that's easy enough
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17:54 csharp Dyrcona: using 14.04 on our DBs but 12.04 everywhere else
17:55 Dyrcona csharp: Thanks.
21:37 Dyrcona I also think unwrap_perl suffers from extra recursion.
21:59 Dyrcona Ah, crazy.
22:00 Dyrcona Apparently, I am making it into the open-ils.actor.patron.update method, but it is blowing up on addresses.
22:00 Dyrcona I didn't flesh addresses, 'cause I just wanted to change the name for a test.
22:05 Dyrcona Interesting. It's blowing up on the user object that it pulled from the database and not the one that I passed in via XML-RPC.
22:08 Dyrcona Also, unwrap_perl seems to be making a proper Fielmapper::actor:_user object from what I am giving it via XML-RPC.
22:08 Dyrcona Not as neat as taking what the server gives me, modifying that, and handing it back.

Results for 2015-02-01

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08:44 dbs @later tell csharp yep, we rolled back to a much older version of SIPServer; only have one SIP client so we need it to just work
08:44 pinesol_green dbs: The operation succeeded.
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Results for 2015-01-30

10:54 * csharp is seeing high RAM on PINES' sip servers and was assuming the fixes for bug 1339190 would help resolve it, but doesn't want to bring on a world of hurt
10:54 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1339190 in SIPServer "SIPServer is heavy, not my brother" (affected: 3, heat: 14) [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1339190
10:54 csharp oh, and we're using a SIPServer of an early 2013 vintage
11:00 jeff do you have time/resources to run a new SIPServer on an alternate host or alternate port, and test with a small group of SIP clients, adding or removing from the test if/as you run into trouble?
11:00 jeff i know you'd hate to be too much of a test bed...
11:00 csharp hmm - that's a thought
11:01 csharp our testing process is actually asking libraries to connect their devices/third-party services to whichever testing cluster we've set up for the purpose
11:01 jeff but there are certainly benefits for you (and all) in having the gains of things like the work in that bug, so identifying any new issues would clear the path...
11:02 Dyrcona Looks like we're not running that fix, yet.
11:02 csharp but it would answer most of our questions to throw in an upgraded sip server for a day and record what happens
11:36 goood thanks
11:37 goood kmlussier: you're using the admin account?
11:38 kmlussier goood: Yes
11:38 goood I'm not having that issue. just tested with admin
11:38 jboyer-isl csharp, There's no news like old news, but I thought I'd pass along that we've been running SIPServer master as of roughly christmas time with Multiplex and it's been good. (I did have to bring back the nightly service restarts, but that's not that big a deal.)
11:39 jeff jboyer-isl: what made you bring back the nightly service restarts?
11:40 jeff jboyer-isl: and do you mean just SIPServer, or restarting OpenSRF services on the SIP host also?
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11:57 kmlussier Never mind. It seems to be working correctly now. The autocompleting URL probably steered me wrong.
11:58 jeff 9118 Pure Significance Inlet
12:00 kmlussier OK, one webby mystery solved then. :)
12:00 * kmlussier resumes testing bug fixes
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12:14 csharp jboyer-isl: thanks for sharing that
12:14 csharp I'll definitely consider upgrading, at least in a rollback-able way ;-)
12:42 bshum dbwells: Reading the Launchpad entry, I said I did backport it. So if it's not there, then I guess I screwed something up?
12:43 * bshum can look more closely when he finishes eating lunch.
12:46 kmlussier mmorgan: Hooray! :)
12:47 dbwells bshum: Yes, it was probably just an oversight, but the fact that that piece relied on the other bug gave me pause.  I just tested on our live 2.7 install, and am now sure it is needed.  I'll push it in when I get back from lunch unless you beat me to it.  (same for rel_2_6)
12:48 mmorgan Forcing https would be good practice, though.
12:57 bshum dbwells: Well darn, that's an annoying screwup.  I'll add that missing commit and then adjust the launchpad ticket to signify that it wasn't actually backported right till now... :(
12:58 bshum dbwells: Related, I think we've got enough stuff for a good maintenance release soon.
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13:16 goood kmlussier: I'm going to go ahead and hide it
13:18 kmlussier goood: OK. I'm about to post to the LP bug the results of our first round of testing on the fixes.
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16:01 collum Nope.
16:01 collum gmcharlt just tweeted.
16:02 collum I can only go to one conference a year, and this year it's going to be Computers in Libraries.
16:26 Dyrcona Rollback is great for testing.
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12:00 jeff mmorgan: does the template file work in the previous version of the client? i don't remember offhand how tricky that might be in your environment to test.
12:01 jeff (i'm wondering if there was a change that broke import of previous-version receipt templates, either in some or all circumstances)
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12:04 mmorgan jeff: Hmm. That's a thought. I'll see if I can find an older client to test it on.
12:05 kmlussier mmorgan: I could try it in a 2.5 client
12:05 jeff could also explain why the new client failed to load the stored templates from disk.
12:06 jeff if you find signs that seem to confirm that theory, the template file that broke could be useful -- especially if it's "only under certain circumstances" kind of thing.
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16:24 RoganH_ Quick question - does anyone know off the top of their head if last activity includes SIP activity?
16:24 RoganH_ (I can go test it of course but feeling lazy.)
16:31 kmlussier I should know the answer to that question.
16:32 mmorgan There are sip2 activity types. One for login and one for verify
16:36 jeff and I think only "verify" is used by current code.
16:52 gmcharlt @later tell foo you have been eaten by a grue
16:52 pinesol_green gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
16:52 eeevil dbwells++
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17:03 csharp @quote random
17:03 pinesol_green csharp: Quote #21: "< Dyrcona> Writing software is more fun than working." (added by csharp at 09:29 AM, November 29, 2011)
17:04 Dyrcona And with that, I'm outta here.

Results for 2015-01-28

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09:49 dbwells So, on Google's guide page linked above, looking at the Do/Don't "Travel stream" example, does anyone agree with Google that the raised buttons here are more "heavy" than necessary?
09:50 dbwells It's about a third of the way down the page.
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09:52 phasefx dbwells: I don't have a strong opinion there, but I think I'm used to what Google is doing, and I'm very adaptable.  Presumably they've done actual user testing (I'd pretty much bet on it)
09:52 dbwells I'm presuming that as well.
09:53 phasefx I think the words being verbs and all caps invite them to be interpreted as actions
09:53 dbwells But even with zillions of dollars, there is always going to be a certain subjectivity to really subtle design choices which is hard to measure, so I'm not going to go all in on Google, either :)
09:55 phasefx dbwells: and also potential bureaucratic craziness/bias
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09:55 phasefx I doubt any company is purely rational and numbers driven
09:55 jboyer-isl My issue with that example (took me a while to find it) is they are comparing completely flat with raised. There’s a level in between, which is just the color border, no shadow. That’s the one I’d prefer in that situation.
09:56 jboyer-isl phasefx: Google may be as close as can be on that front. (Que stories about the 47 shades of blue A/B testing, etc.)
09:56 phasefx mmm
09:57 gmcharlt I also think we can't dismiss that firms like Google, while I do believe that they can and do more actual UX testing... are also under a marketing impetus to refresh their look periodically
09:57 phasefx as opposed to Yahoo with the CEO changing colors at the last minute :)
10:00 dbwells jboyer-isl: So do you think you would generally support the idea of a "lighter" button style for cases where button-ness is easily identifiable from context, but a "heavier" style when you need a button to stand out due to placement or generally screen busy-ness?
10:01 dbwells That question is for everyone else too, of course.
11:56 csharp hopefully we'll be closer to a browser based client by the time Windows 10 is in common usage, though
11:56 mrpeters it was working fine
11:56 bshum mrpeters++
11:56 mrpeters i used it for a day to test our standalone debs for Evergreen
11:56 bshum Testing the future.
11:56 mrpeters win 10 is going to be pretty solid i think
11:56 mrpeters may get me to upgrade from win 7
11:57 Jake___ Thats great to hear
12:38 gmcharlt just need somebody to contact me or bshum when they're ready to say go
12:38 mrpeters i'd probably need someone to tell me when one is needed, and then i'd upload the file and let someone update the downloads page when they update the rest of the clients
12:38 gmcharlt and for that matter... I'm happen to simply be sent the clients, and I can put them in place
12:59 csharp gmcharlt: testing your fix now
12:59 gmcharlt csharp: did you all run into the issue?
12:59 * csharp recalls running into NOHEADING several months ago
12:59 gmcharlt snap
13:05 kmlussier #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC
13:05 gmcharlt :)
13:06 kmlussier Small meeting? :)
13:06 gmcharlt appears so...
13:06 gmcharlt #topic Updates
13:06 gmcharlt #action gmcharlt will install (or verify that it was installed) the libc6 fixes for the "GHOST" vulnerability today on the evergreen-ils.org boxes
13:08 gmcharlt #action after ALA Midwinter, gmcharlt will get the documentation test VM provisioned
13:08 gmcharlt kmlussier: any quick updates from you?
13:08 kmlussier gmcharlt: No, I haven't done anything for the web site this month.
13:08 gmcharlt I saw that ericar has sent out a query about updated the roster
13:09 gmcharlt I believe she's on the road today, though
13:28 kmlussier I would argue that since there wasn't a quorum, the meeting didn't actually take place. ;)
13:28 csharp one_screenful_meetings++
13:29 tsbere kmlussier: Ah, but to discuss things we didn't need a quorum. Just to actually vote on stuff. Our decision was more along the lines of "why discuss things if we can't vote on them anyway?" :P
13:29 csharp #vote ulitmate power to the web team: Yes
13:30 csharp er.. ultimate power, even
13:30 csharp gmcharlt: I tested your branch - signoff branch on the way
13:31 bshum For fun, http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergr​een/2011-07/%23evergreen.08-Fri-2011.log was when I thought I had the shortest meeting ever for the community meetings (back when we were doing those).  The timestamps put it at14 minutes.  So yes, that meeting I missed was shorter :)
13:31 bshum gmcharlt: Apologies for missing things, I was stuck talking while retrieving my lunch :(
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Results for 2015-01-27

12:06 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Remove unwanted index recreation - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c3c8b74>
12:07 goood make that 4ffa62207
12:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1253163: stamping upgrade for authority.in-line-headings - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4ffa622>
12:09 bshum Honestly, I don't remember what I was testing that day when I merged that.  Wasn't that related to the PG 9.3 weirdness and function breakage?
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12:11 bshum Wait, I'm confused by those two commits you linked now.
12:11 bshum Are you saying the index should be there or shouldn't be there?
12:11 pastebot "Dyrcona" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "MVLC WWW diff with master" (40 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/27
12:12 bshum Dyrcona: That doesn't look too unusual to me.
12:18 bshum Or to put it another way, what did I break now?  10+ months later :(
12:41 goood berick: thanks. are there any instructions for installing on windows or mac?
12:45 berick goood: no instructions.  same concepts for both, though, just different commands
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13:05 csharp goood: I'm attempting to apply the fix for bug 1414112 on a test server and getting this error: http://pastie.org/9865951 ... it looks like it should work, though :-/
13:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1414112 in Evergreen 2.7 "Audience filter no longer searching blank spaces" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414112
13:09 Dyrcona berick: After comparing notes wth bshum, I really think it is something under EGCatloader, probably doing xact_begin followed by xact_commit or xact_rollback, but no disconnect.
13:09 Dyrcona He sees the messages in his logs, also, just not as many.
13:19 csharp Dyrcona++
13:23 dbwells Hey all.  Just a quick double-check: is PG 9.1 still the minimum version for EG 2.7?
13:23 csharp dbwells: from my understanding, 9.1 has not been deprecated yet for any EG version
13:24 bshum dbwells: PG 9.1 is the minimum version, but personally I only tested with PG 9.3 and recommend that to everyone who goes up to EG 2.7 :)
13:24 dbwells csharp++ Thanks.  I thought that to be true, but didn't want to find out mid-upgrade that I was wrong :)
13:25 csharp dbwells: I'll mention that we're on 9.3, so I can speak from experience upgrading to 2.7 on 9.1 ;-)
13:25 dbwells bshum: That's probably good advice, but my upgrade window is a little tight this time around.  We'll get there eventually.
15:12 Stompro Wireshark says it is trying to use tls1.0, which is enabled, so maybe the problem is with the ciphers enabled.  Apache logs show nothing so it is't getting past the ssl negotiation phase.
15:12 dbs Stompro: umm. works pretty great for me
15:12 dbs https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze​.html?d=laurentian.concat.ca&amp;latest anyways
15:13 Stompro dbs: would you mind sharing your SSLCipherSuite line?  I also just loaded a non self signed cert.. I should probably not change too many things at once before testing :)
15:13 * dbs using https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS (intermediate support)
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15:14 dbs SSLCipherSuite ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GC​M-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-​AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-D​SS-AES128-GCM-SHA256:kEDH+AESGCM:ECDHE-RSA-AES128​-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES12​8-SHA:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA​384:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SH​A:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:DH​E-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA256:DHE-R
15:14 jeff Stompro: i'd be interested in your config and in your failure mode / errors, but purely for selfish reasons -- i'd like to know how it can break. doesn't help you fix it right now.
15:14 Stompro Firefox can connect just fine to the catalog... just not the staff client.
15:14 * dbs also redirecting everything from HTTP to HTTPS
15:19 Stompro jeff: The error mode is that the server status check fails with a red "There was an error testing this hostname".  The other issue that could be related is that the cert is so new that the OCSP info hasn't been updated, so maybe the staff client is trying to validate the cert against the OCSP list and failing because of that?
15:19 Stompro And it has nothing to do with the cipher suites.
15:19 jeff What OCSP issue do you think you're running into?
15:22 Stompro I think I was supposed to wait an hour or two before using the new cert for the OCSP info to get added.  I think a negative reply is cached now on the OCSP server so I have to wait for 24 hours for it to time out.  ssllabs does give me an "OCSP ERROR" so they are seeing it also.
16:40 Dyrcona We got two feet plus, all right.
16:52 Dyrcona Well, I'm signing off.
16:53 Dyrcona TTYL, #evergreen!
17:17 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:21 gmcharlt goood: bug 1415234
17:21 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1415234 in Evergreen "uncontrolled attribute values that consistent only of spaces are normalized away" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1415234
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Results for 2015-01-26

10:39 Dyrcona berick: I could possibly share them.
10:39 berick so they are just hanging out waitin to time out
10:39 Dyrcona Well, I don't think CStoreEditor is the problem, though we should still probably clean up the code.
10:40 Dyrcona I mentioned last week that I added a warn to the destructor and did some tests on my dev machine and every other line (not quite) in the logs was the destructor being called.
10:41 berick that's great, but doesn't help when the destructor isn't called, like when refs are still in scope
10:42 Dyrcona And now, we're down to 41 cstore drones.
10:42 Dyrcona Thing is, I haven't found anywhere the refs look like they would still be in scope.
15:17 tsbere Bmagic_: You need to fix that. ;) autogen.sh -u may work?
15:18 Bmagic_ tsbere: ok, that did fix that
15:19 tsbere Bmagic_: In that case your "4 times" issue is likely fixed
15:20 Bmagic_ tsbere: testing
15:25 Bmagic_ tsbere: yep, solved
15:25 Bmagic_ tsbere++
15:26 Bmagic_ tsbere: can you help me understand why the DB returned those rows in that function?
16:12 dbs guess not!
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Results for 2015-01-25

05:07 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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10:30 Dyrcona Wow. That was fast. Pidgin must have been cached in RAM.

Results for 2015-01-24

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Results for 2015-01-23

12:32 kmlussier berick++
12:33 dbs berick++
12:36 RoganH berick++
12:39 dbwells berick++  I was just looking for the live test info yesterday!  I stumbled my way through it...
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13:10 * Dyrcona just signed in to say, "Hey!"
15:29 jeff "oh, school burned down (no injuries). phew. i thought the SAN had gone down or something."
15:39 Dyrcona Nah, just a routine thing about an upcoming event.
15:39 Dyrcona Fine Arts Night
15:42 jeff i should probably test this report with a query that completes in less than 31s.
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16:31 kmlussier Have a great weekend everyone!
16:36 bshum kmlussier++ # thanks for testing my fix for lost&paid :)
16:37 bshum Have a nice weekend.
16:41 mmorgan kmlussier++ bshum++
16:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1412893: Only apply lost and paid status with the proper transactions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=609db84>
17:10 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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Results for 2015-01-22

09:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1386347 in Evergreen 2.6 "Speed up hold copy map deletion for clear shelf process, etc." (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
09:05 csharp dbs: or eeevil: for bug 1206936, does the suggested change in comment #7 supercede my "use window functions" branch and solve the original problem?
09:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1206936 in Evergreen "money.transaction_billing_summary view displays incorrect billing_type and billing_note for the actual last transaction" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206936
09:05 * csharp hasn't tested, jsyk
09:07 tsbere jeff: Regarding differences in default notification formats: TPac (pipe, prefers email, then phone, then sms) vs old JSPac entries (dunno) vs Patron Editor (colon, prefers phone, then email, then sms)
09:10 jeff tsbere: thanks. i had suspected as such, and started to compare new/old patron editors vs tpac -- thought i saw in tpac that it was colon-delimited, just with a different order. guess i'll have to re-look.
09:14 bshum csharp: On bug 1386347, I was leaning towards removing the milestone from that, since nobody seems to be championing it for backport presently.
14:00 pinesol_green [sipserver|Thomas Berezansky] LP#1227273: Clear account info at start and end of connection - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​SIPServer.git;a=commit;h=cd45513>
14:01 bshum That's the last commit our SIPServer is up to running apparently.
14:01 bshum It was before the timeout stuff and the multiplex stuff
14:25 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
14:46 Stompro Is creating read only postgres access really as difficult as it seems to be?  Needing to run a command for every schema individually?
14:50 bshum Stompro: I believe that's how we had to do it in the past.
14:50 bshum And actually I think we even went further and specified it table by table in some cases.
15:28 kmlussier bshum: It shouldn't take me long to look at it again. The problem is all of the other stuff I have on my plate today.
15:30 kmlussier But if you wait until tomorrow, I can also look at that Lost and Paid bug too.
15:31 Dyrcona kmlussier: I've loaded the branch on my dev system already, so feel free to toggle settings on there if you want.
15:31 dbwells kmlussier: rats, sorry.  Probably a merge error I made of some kind when getting it into the branch.  I loaded the branch earlier on my test box, but haven't gotten back to it yet.  I'll get it fixed.
15:31 Dyrcona The lost and paid fix branch, that is.
15:31 kmlussier dbwells++ Great, thanks!
15:32 bshum kmlussier: That's fine, I can wait to cut tomorrow.
15:41 bshum Damn, missed the # in the previous commits
15:41 jeff but not as many wasted characters as LP#number - Commit description here
15:41 bshum I need to finish poking at the ilbot config
15:43 Dyrcona I need to test phasefx_'s marc_export changes. Probably won't get to it today.
15:44 Dyrcona They won't go into 2.7 anyway.
15:48 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1407171 Avoid DEFLATEing fm_IDL.xml - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=112b270>
15:50 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1373594: Also ignore subfield 7 in get_graphics_880s - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=67999a6>
15:57 bshum It's cause that's already the default, but should we keep that in the help info for people who might have it live elsewhere for some reason?
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16:14 dbwells kmlussier: Dyrcona: I missed one added and two deleted lines in my merging (or unmerging, as the case may be).  It seems happier now at my end, so I force pushed over the same branch (collab/dbwells/1198465_cstore_fines_gen).  Thanks for the early testing!
16:14 kmlussier dbwells++
16:18 Dyrcona kmlussier: I can load the revised branch if you want to look at it tomorrow.
16:18 remingtron bshum: I think the help info should be enough as is, since the config setting is the first option listed. But I don't have strong feelings either way.
16:30 bshum Dyrcona: Most of the things I end up pushing to 2.7 tend to be either tiny or broken things.  I usually save dbwells the trouble of pushing it to rel_2_6 on his behalf, but I could change that if he'd prefer to push it himself :)
16:31 kmlussier Dyrcona++ Thank you!
16:31 jeff bshum: so trying to install debian-wheezy-packager target after installing debian-wheezy-developer results in an error because it tries to clone the node git repo a second time.
16:31 bshum If it was me, I wouldn't hold off on backporting if it's indeed a bug fix.
16:32 bshum jeff: Ahh..... I primarily tested the Ubuntu side of things, and those are all packages.
16:32 bshum So it doesn't usually clobber itself, it'll just add whatever packages it's still missing.
16:32 * jeff nods
16:32 bshum jeff++ # may want to file that a new bug then for 2.8 series.
16:33 bshum Darn Wheezy
16:44 bshum Hmm
16:45 bshum Maybe like the install_libdbi thing before install_nodejs_from_source
16:45 bshum Where we look for the folder, if not present, get it, etc.
16:45 dbwells I think whoever does the testing should go ahead and push to all applicable branches.  The fact that bshum is an RM and also tests a bunch of things just confuses the situation ;)
16:46 * bshum either has lots of hats or lots of heads.
16:46 bshum Possibly both.
16:47 bshum jeff: That's of course all from Makefile.common I'm curiously looking at.
16:55 Dyrcona I'll just build a new vm on Saturday or Monday.
16:55 kmlussier Dyrcona: Thanks for trying!
16:55 * kmlussier calls it a day
16:56 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:01 berick tsbere: re: bug 1413624, if you hope to get it merged into 2.8, go ahead and target 2.8-beta
17:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1413624 in Evergreen "New AccessHandler Module" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1413624
17:02 eeevil dbwells: I've been terribly remiss in not looking at your cstore-fine-gen code ... I'm wondering what the reason for that is? (the use of cstore instead of dbi in the storage app, in particular) ... but, I think I've found a problem in any case. it looks like penalty calculation is being called before the cstore->commit is called

Results for 2015-01-21

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14:15 Dyrcona Ah.. here's a question.
14:15 Dyrcona What happens to results from a substream search if the transaction is rolled back and the editor disconnected?
14:16 Dyrcona S'pose I can write a test program to find out.
14:18 berick cseditor does everything synchronously, so you couldn't disconnect/rollback until all results had been retrieved.
14:19 berick in which case they're no different than non-substream data
14:19 Dyrcona OK/
15:34 kmlussier I knew the answer to that question a few months ago.
15:34 tsbere I believe marking as claims returned will overwrite the lost stop fines reason as well.
15:34 tsbere Just as an extra data point
15:35 bshum Then I feel better about looking at the stop_fine reason to decide whether to set the lost&paid status
15:35 bshum mmorgan++ # testing
15:42 * dbs moves onto trying to find out why "Add to list" is failing silently (at least client side), wonders whether our HTTPS-everything config may be a factor.
15:44 dbs "GET /eg/opac/mylist/add?locg=105;record=830689 HTTP/1.0" 302 4896 "http://laurentian.concat.ca/eg/opac​/mylist/add?locg=105;record=830689" says yes.
15:44 dbs 302 = "go to HTTPS dummy!"
15:45 kmlussier For those who missed the email, the scheduling poll for our next Bug Squashing Day is at http://doodle.com/umc27afh7akqczft
15:46 * dbs squints at ctx.opac_root
15:47 * Dyrcona pushed a commit to fix a/ts to the collab branch.
15:47 Dyrcona Tested it on dev with a hold notification and it still works.
15:48 Dyrcona We're going to load it into production next time we have to restart services.
15:49 dbs $ctx->{base_path} = $r->dir_config('OILSWebBasePath'); # getting there
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16:37 * dbs determines that the http 302 redirects for lists are from yandex web crawler. *sigh*
16:38 bshum mmorgan: I added a new comment with a potential working branch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1412893/comments/2
16:38 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1412893 in Evergreen "Applying lost and paid status at the wrong time" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Undecided,Confirmed]
16:39 bshum mmorgan: If you get time later to try tossing that in some test environment and seeing if it handles the lost&paid situation better, let me know what you can find out.
16:39 bshum I plan to try it out more when I can get it on a system too.
16:39 bshum Dyrcona++ # helping me fix my sucky perl
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16:46 mmorgan bhum: I will give it a try at some point soon.
16:47 mmorgan bhsum++

Results for 2015-01-19

10:31 wsmoak this is a fairly fresh Yosemite install, and I haven't customized FF at all
10:33 wsmoak will be interesting to see what another osx user sees.  Norton might be to blame, it sticks its nose where it isn't wanted all the time.
10:34 wsmoak anyway... the search works fine now that I know what I'm looking at. :)  minor issue.
10:48 dbs http://i.imgur.com/dbmZDa9.png is what mine looks like
10:48 dbs (highlighting PINES obscures the icon sadly, oh well)
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10:54 * dbs wonders idly why Browse catalog by title works in one library in our instance but not in another
10:54 dbs (returns a server 500 error, yikes)
10:58 * dbs peers at egweb: Context Loader error: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at WWW/EGCatLoader/Browse.pm line 271.
11:00 dbs suggests its a database error, and the there's no $self->editor->event member that was returned I guess.
11:03 * dbs opts to stop testing defensive code in production after making every page request return 500 :)
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12:09 dbs my defensive code is simply offensive
12:12 dbs even weirder, that browse works on our test instance where we haven't reingested all of the records. hrm.
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12:23 eeevil dbs: any chance the osrf translator memcache instance is misconfigured in the apache configs?  I've seen that break browse and just a couple other things in the past.  A/T event def editor would also break, for instance
12:24 dbs eeevil: definitely possible
12:37 Dyrcona But then, I'm "off" today.
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12:47 julialima_ Hello evergreeners!!! The web client is not working, at least for me. In the patron search I can´t perform any search, I have no feedback so I don´t know what is going on. Anyone know if there is a problem?
12:47 bshum Dyrcona: I've seen that too actually.
12:47 bshum Also "off" :)
12:51 bshum julialima_: I'm probably not the best person to answer you (I'm not sure how many folks have off today in the US). Anywho, which server are you using to test with?
12:52 dbwells julialima_: Some folks might be at lunch, which is where I am headed.  Also, just to clarify, are you talking about webby.evergreencatalog.com, or some other test site?
12:52 bshum Maybe there might be a hint in the browser console
12:53 gmcharlt julialima_: try webby now; I've restarted services there and it's now working for me
12:54 julialima_ gmcharlt: It is working now, thank you very much! :)

Results for 2015-01-16

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08:15 kmlussier eeevil: I'll see if I can get some end user testing here on webby for those web client fixes.
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10:20 * csharp laughs evilly
10:20 jboyer-isl It's particularly fun to use cores-1, provided it has the RAM to pull it off.
10:20 csharp jboyer-isl: daredevil!
10:21 jboyer-isl I like to test ACID compliance, keep postmaster on it's toes, etc. :D
10:21 * berick waits for a 'top' screenshot
10:22 csharp ERROR: not enough room on screen
10:22 berick says it all
12:09 dbs We are still using scripts though! Which is always fun.
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12:39 kmlussier berick/eeevil: For commit b577d39, is there a specific bug with dates being fixed that we should be testing for?
12:39 kmlussier Hmm...I thought that would bring up the commit if I typed it that way.
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12:39 berick kmlussier: it's not a bug
12:39 berick it's part of the noncat circ display
13:41 mrpeters what is current reccomended xulrunner for 2.72?  (building a mac client)
13:45 berick mrpeters: 14.0.1
13:45 mrpeters thanks berick!
13:45 eeevil kmlussier++ # testing! :)
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14:21 dbs julialima++ # great stuff
14:45 Dyrcona kmlussier: OK. I likely haven't read that one yet.
14:47 jeff kmlussier: thanks for calling that out. i've been reading that thread but apparently am not current.
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14:52 kmlussier eeevil / berick: If you're still around, there were 4 bug fixes mentioned in Mike's most recent bug repairs comment that I was unsure on what to test for. http://pastebin.com/r21hv2ke
14:53 kmlussier Some may be related to other fixes to be tested there, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
14:53 berick kmlussier: for "Repair browser client dropdown buttons" -- it's an issue that would only appear on a fairly new server
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14:54 berick in the grids, the Actions drop-down buttons don't work w/o the patch
14:54 berick making sure they still work on older servers would be helpful, thoug
14:54 berick h
14:54 kmlussier berick: Ok. So the 1st isn't something I can really test for on webby?
14:55 berick checking Actions dropdowns in Webby to make sure the change didn't introduce a problem would be good
14:55 kmlussier berick: Sure, that we can do. :)
14:55 berick kmlussier: for "Avoid org tree retrieval race condition on patron app" -- without this patch, pages would sometimes fail to load with a JS error.  if you never saw the problem before, it's not really testable, apart from "hey, pages load!"

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11:45 bshum patron?
11:45 bshum Hmm
11:45 bshum Oh right
11:45 abowling bshum: just for testing, i've commented out this line just for a simple test:
11:45 abowling //$('hold_usr_textbox').value = au_obj.card().barcode();
11:45 bshum My mind's not on XUL stuff :)
11:46 abowling understood. i'm pretty good with the perlmods and OPAC, but my XUL history is limited, and that's understating it
11:47 abowling upon restarting the staff client, $('hold_usr_textbox') is still getting a value set
12:09 bshum berick: Right, I know
12:09 jeff abowling: worth noting that your apache log line is NOT requesting the javascript file you stated you were editing.
12:10 bshum If so, he's probably looking for /openils/var/template/opac/place_hold.tt2 (or ../parts/place_hold.tt2 actually)
12:10 abowling i'm pulling up test records, clicking "Place Hold", and then selecting "Advanced Options"
12:10 jeff abowling: i think you want to be looking at /openils/var/web/opac/skin/default/js/holds.js and such.
12:10 abowling bshum: that now seems likley
12:10 bshum Ah, yeah, wrong place.
16:03 rangi they do 2 weeks, first week is learning
16:03 rangi 2nd week is project work
16:04 rangi its been Koha, Drupal, Mahara, Silverstripe and Piwik
16:09 * jeff returns from digging
16:10 jeff vandelay functions were in a bad state on my test instance.
16:10 Dyrcona rangi: Cool.
16:10 jeff fixed, all's well.
16:11 jeff and this is a good reminder that i need to do some more research with regard to better ways to schema-only diff postgres databases :-)

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