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Results for 2014-10-28

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14:46 berick related, I just got around to porting the wheezy installer to trusty at random/collab/berick/trusty-auto-installer
14:46 berick bonus points for being called "trusty auto installer" ;)
14:47 bshum berick++ # that's awesome sounding :D
14:50 phasefx berick++  Do we want to separate out the qa stuff from the wheezy installer, or bundle all installers + qa together?  It looks like the trusty one would still work with the qa tests with the way it's producing output
14:51 * berick wonders if anyone has had a chance to look at bug #1366964
14:51 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1366964 in Evergreen "Transaction Issues with libdbi 0.9.0" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366964
14:51 berick phasefx: i like having the QA stuff in there
14:51 berick though, admittedly, I don't often use it all.
14:52 bshum berick: I was just looking at the code, but I'm not in a position to test till next week sometime.
14:53 * berick nods
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14:54 bshum Eager to try it out though, of course :)
14:54 phasefx berick: I think we should option out the timezone stuff.. it's important for the qa tests, maybe, but not for someone in some arbitrary timezone
14:55 phasefx s/arbitrary/different/
14:55 berick phasefx: ah, hadn't thought about that
14:55 * berick forgets what all is in the tests
14:55 phasefx something prompted us to set the timezone for the qa vm, I think
14:56 bshum Ugh, speaking of timezones.... good night folks.  See you all again in a week.
14:57 berick sleep well, bshum
15:36 hbrennan Thanks, gmcharlt
15:36 * csharp saw a huge crowd of people at the Apple Store at Lenox Mall standing around for hours *just in case* a shipment of new iPhones arrived
15:37 hbrennan I'm glad that's not even a choice for me
15:37 csharp hbrennan: fwiw, we're running our test 2.7.0 cluster on OpenSRF 2.4 alpha, and we haven't seen problems
15:38 * csharp pets his trusty Galaxy Note 2
15:38 bshum hbrennan: fwiw, we run 2.7.0ish in production with OpenSRF 2.4 alpha and haven't seen any explosions either.
15:38 hbrennan That's good to know, thanks csharp
15:38 * bshum tries to sleep again
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20:45 kmlussier @later tell csharp I think we may be having trouble with the oversight board list. There are recent 3 messages in the archive that don't appear to have been sent out.
20:45 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
22:13 * jeff shakes his fist a marc_stream_importer.pl
22:13 jeff quote the script, "Failed to import 1 records"
22:19 jeff quoth, even.
22:20 jeff (not to be confused with Kvothe)
22:29 jeff ah.
22:29 jeff 1) marc_stream_importer.pl requires a full path for the spool file if running in --no-daemon mode
22:30 jeff 2) marc_stream_importer.pl deleted the spool file
22:30 jeff 3) the permissions in this particular test database are... in an interesting state.
22:42 * jeff runs smack dab into bug 1170514
22:42 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1170514 in Evergreen "vandelay.auto_overlay_bib_record discrepancy" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170514
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Results for 2014-10-27

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17:25 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dananji Liyanage] Docs: Changed 'Importing materials' in the staff client section LP#1371615 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4373455>
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Results for 2014-10-26

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17:16 jeff hrm. with those failures and no commits between (at least based on irc output) i wonder if we're running into next weekend's DST switch causing an issue. :P
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Results for 2014-10-25

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Results for 2014-10-24

15:55 pinesol_green Dyrcona: What are you asking me for?
15:56 kmlussier eightball appears to be a little snippy today.
15:56 kmlussier eightball appears to be a little snippy today.
15:59 rangi Dyrcona: my plan is to get all the unit tests up to scratch, then merge your stuff and fix until the tests pass again, moving my branch to old_stuff and the new merged branch becoming master
15:59 rangi Dyrcona: my plan is to get all the unit tests up to scratch, then merge your stuff and fix until the tests pass again, moving my branch to old_stuff and the new merged branch becoming master
15:59 Dyrcona rangi: Cool, bro. ;)
15:59 Dyrcona rangi: Cool, bro. ;)
16:00 Dyrcona I'm still working with Auto-graphics. Found some template issues last night. I botched the messages a bit.
16:00 Dyrcona I'm still working with Auto-graphics. Found some template issues last night. I botched the messages a bit.
16:00 Dyrcona Also, it seems that when validating with the schema, the order of some of the elements matters.
16:00 Dyrcona Also, it seems that when validating with the schema, the order of some of the elements matters.
16:03 rangi yeah i had to work with auto graphics too .. you'd think they would know their product better, but no ... werent able to get sample messages, couldnt set up a test instance etc ... everything just takes a zillion times longer, didnt help that they first were sending ncip 1.0 messages then changed to 2.0 mid dev stream
16:03 rangi yeah i had to work with auto graphics too .. you'd think they would know their product better, but no ... werent able to get sample messages, couldnt set up a test instance etc ... everything just takes a zillion times longer, didnt help that they first were sending ncip 1.0 messages then changed to 2.0 mid dev stream
16:17 Dyrcona Oh, I was going to do this earlier, but got distracted by work: xmllint++ xmlstarlet++
16:17 Dyrcona Oh, I was going to do this earlier, but got distracted by work: xmllint++ xmlstarlet++
16:32 kmlussier I've always wondered - is there a reason the bib record in the catalog shows both a "Next 10" link and a "show more copies" link? Shouldn't it be one or the other?
17:10 pinesol_green Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... RAVENCLAW!
17:11 kmlussier Heh...my daughter is amused by that.
17:11 kmlussier Heh...my daughter is amused by that.
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17:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1384868: limit fund drop-downs on the invoice page to only active funds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e29499>
17:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1384868: limit fund drop-downs on the invoice page to only active funds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e29499>
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Results for 2014-10-23

12:37 dbs surely we can drop the fiction that we're actually going to port to Oracle or DB2 or MariaDB by now
12:38 csharp +1
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12:38 berick dbs: indeed...  and if someone were to try such a test, recoving libdbi would the easiest part of that project.
12:38 berick s/test/task/
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12:52 gmcharlt berick: just a bit easier than implementing plpgsql for mariadb ;)
16:33 * dbs likes it
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Results for 2014-10-22

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15:11 kmlussier csharp++
15:13 csharp cool
15:14 tsbere kmlussier: Actually, if you are on any aliases, you are probably benefitting from me fixing the access list. Given that you are on the same server as me and the messages are coming from the same place ;)
15:15 kmlussier tsbere: No, I also tested with my gmail address just to rule out MVLC being the issue. :)
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17:51 whargrove Hi all, is it possible to configure evergreen to require a terminal password for SIP commands?
18:01 jeffdavis whargrove: What do you mean by a terminal password? Our SIP clients (self-check machines etc) do need to submit a username and password for authorization before they can do anything...
18:05 whargrove jeffdavis: Right, I understand that and we have verified our SIP client works with evergreen
18:05 whargrove jeffdavis: we are using Evergreen as a dev sandbox
18:06 whargrove and another vendor wants us to send terminal password and we want to test it with evergreen
18:06 whargrove not a requirement for SIP to work with evergreen, but I want to see if I can test the changes with our evergreen server
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Results for 2014-10-21

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12:34 mmorgan jboyer-isl: we're on 2.6.2, in a highly unscientific test, I just edited barcodes on 20 patrons on our training system and didn't freeze up. Are you able to reproduce?mmmpooj
12:34 mmorgan oops, sorry about that last...
12:35 jboyer-isl mmorgan: I’ve started poking around at our migration server but I’m also on a Mac here, so there are multiple variables now.
12:36 mmorgan never a shortage of variables :)
12:38 mmorgan freeze ups have been an ongoing elusive problem, we've never looked at patron edit, but we'll keep it in mind to look at now.
12:44 jboyer-isl Well, It may not be ram related. I edited maybe 7-8 accounts and the client is completely locked up, only 390MB in use on a 16GB machine. :-/
12:49 mmorgan Wow! Are you just editing barcodes?
12:50 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: Did you say you were doing this on a Mac Book?
12:51 jboyer-isl I did my personal test on an iMac, the actual issue is on Windows PCs at our new member.
12:51 jboyer-isl mmorgan: I edited barcodes and added 1 day to their birthdays as if there were other edits to make.
12:52 Dyrcona Well, I would not be surprised if XulRunner has more problems on a Mac than on other platforms.
12:52 Dyrcona In my sporadic, and unscientific testing, it certainly appears to.
12:53 jboyer-isl Dyrcona: I wouldn’t be surprised either, though I am surprised I got it to break. I can’t seem to ever run into problems when I’m trying to.
12:54 Dyrcona Well, that often happens when you want something to go wrong it doesn't. That usually means your initial impression of the problem is wrong.
12:55 Dyrcona But, for anyone following the bug email, I solved my Z39.50 problem. I made a typo in the config.

Results for 2014-10-20

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06:30 * bshum wishes everyone a happy Monday.
06:35 bshum @later tell gmcharlt Guess we'll need a plan to upgrade Piwik someday for the webstats.http://piwik.org/blog/2014/10/announcing-piwik​-will-end-php-5-3-support-six-months-may-2015/
09:10 bshum csharp: I didn't get to finish 2.7.1 before I left for my travels
09:27 tsbere csharp: Sometimes git cherry-pick is better, wrapped in a "give me all the commit hashes from <base branch> to HEAD on the customized branch, then cherry-pick them into the new customization branch in order" - Lets you skip some of the "prep version and upgrade script" commits from release branches.
09:27 tsbere (without having to find them in the interactive list)
09:32 phasefx jeff: roger roger, thanks man re: dns and test
09:47 csharp bshum: no prob ;-)
09:47 csharp tsbere: thanks for the tip - I was able to quickly identify and comment out the undesired commits
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14:05 jeff whargrove: that said, yes Evergreen + SIPServer support it. There have been... inconsistencies identified in the standard, and I cheered when I saw that SIP3 removes checksums. :-)
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14:08 Dyrcona +1 what jeff says. Some 3M products don't do checksums correctly, and it is their protocol.
14:09 whargrove Got it, thanks for the responses
14:10 whargrove One ILS vendor we are integrating with requires checksumming ... but we wanted to test it with our evergreen sandbox first
14:10 jeff Can you name the vendor so that I can personally mock them? :-)
14:11 Dyrcona whargrove: You should ask them where the serial cables are, 'cause TCP has checksumming built in, so checksumming on top of that is redundant.
14:13 whargrove jeff: Carl.X
15:52 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
15:53 Dyrcona Too many distractions.
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16:41 phasefx qa tests passed this time, yay :)
16:43 jeff phasefx: yay. did resolv.conf have one or both of those nameservers, or was it a different issue?
16:44 phasefx jeff: right issue, different DNS servers
16:45 jeff heh
16:46 jeff did QTS recently notify customers with open resolvers or something? :-)
16:46 phasefx no, it was all our fault; change internally and qa01 is a second class citizen :)
16:47 jeff heh
16:49 jeff shows how often I use non-lowercase identifiers in postgres... couldn't figure out why certain things weren't being found.
16:50 jeff twas because the relation was named temp_Foo and unless I quoted it, it was being folded to temp_foo and not being found.
16:50 jeff of course, the error doesn't fold the case, so:
16:50 jeff jeff=> \d temp_Foo
16:50 jeff Did not find any relation named "temp_Foo".
16:51 jeff hrm. maybe part of this specific quirk is limited to temporary tables.
16:52 jeff ah, nope. did it to myself again by not quoting when I created my test.
16:52 jeff anyway.
16:53 jeff > Quoting an identifier also makes it case-sensitive, whereas unquoted names are always folded to lower case. For example, the identifiers FOO, foo, and "foo" are considered the same by PostgreSQL, but "Foo" and "FOO" are different from these three and each other.
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Results for 2014-10-19

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13:14 aashitadutta Hi Berick!
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Results for 2014-10-18

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21:58 dbs Is there a DNS problem with the test server, perhaps? ftp.mozilla.org resolves for me.
23:12 * jeff looks
23:14 jeff both nameservers configured in /etc/resolv.conf are responding to pings, and i can resolve ftp.mozilla.org without issue. hrm.
23:15 jeff (and resolv.conf has not been recently modified)
23:16 jeff and i was able to use wget to download js-1.7.0.tar.gz from ftp.mozilla.org... hrm.
23:27 jeff nothing obvious.
23:28 jeff of course, now i realize that i'm looking at testing.evergreen-ils.org, not the test VM itself. :P
23:30 jeff @later tell phasefx if the test VM is using 131.144.4.9 and/or 198.72.72.11 as nameservers, they may need replacing -- I believe those both recently started denying recursive queries from non-trusted clients
23:30 pinesol_green jeff: The operation succeeded.

Results for 2014-10-17

14:18 dbwells yboston: With that in mind, here is a quick draft of the call number branch you have been wanting for some time: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/head​s/user/dbwells/cn_normalizer_detection
14:19 yboston dbwells: cool, I remmeber hearing some other discussion about making certain things inmuttable in PG, but did not realized it impacted CN
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14:20 dbwells yboston: I need to double-check a few things before I make a bug for it, but at least it's there now if you want to do any early testing on it.
14:20 bshum Bmagic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1382637 is a duplicate of larger discussion at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/937789
14:20 pinesol_green bshum: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1382637 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382637). The error has been logged
14:21 pinesol_green bshum: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #937789 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/937789). The error has been logged
14:21 * bshum pokes csharp, et al
14:21 bshum kmlussier: Unrelated, parts--
14:21 Bmagic bshum: oh thanks for that! I didnt find 937789
14:22 yboston dbwells: I don't have a test server with prod data right now, I will either build a new one or add soem test LC call numbers to test it o
14:22 yboston *too
14:40 bshum Shoot, I think I just broke Lupin :(
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Results for 2014-10-16

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19:16 csharp Bmagic: I believe the "PLACE_UNFILLABLE_HOLD" perm allows a user to place a hold *anyway* on an bib with no eligible copies
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11:25 kmlussier eeevil: Thanks for the background on the setting. It's helpful.
11:25 eeevil good! :) (and I agree on the description change)
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11:28 tsbere Looking at the reshelving complete code, I think the "fix" for allowing it to run mid-day and not screw things up may actually be a single line of code. <_< Not sure how to *test* it though.
11:29 hopkinsju tsbere: Can you put your idea into a paste? We may be able to help test it.
11:31 tsbere hopkinsju: I was thinking just drop it into a working branch you could cherry-pick from.
11:31 tsbere (and attaching said branch to the launchpad bug)
11:32 Bmagic tsbere: sounds good to me
11:48 eeevil Able. Autocorrect...
11:50 * tsbere watched locks with and without the status = 7 checks and didn't see any noticable difference in them, but didn't exactly do an overly complete job of watching either and wasn't on a production-level system data-wise
11:51 dbwells bshum: I would typically branch rel_2_x_x from rel_2_x, do the release stuff, then forward-port the upgrade file back to rel_2_x and master (eventually).  Then all the scripts are already in rel_2_x for the next point release.  Does that answer your question?
11:53 eeevil My bigger point is that the current reshelver has an intended purpose, and IMO we should consider that when looking for a solution that is outside that original intent. I'm 100% for code reuse, but I think this might be stretching it, in this specific case... But, testing will tell
11:55 tsbere eeevil: I am all for "new code for the new intent" or even "more efficient/targeted code for this intent" (only doing short-term reshelving when open, for example) - I am also all for calling it a bug that the reshelving complete code can, regardless of when or how often it is run, change the status of something *not* in reshelving at update time.
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12:05 eeevil fair enough. in practice, of course, it /only/ happens during open hours, but yes, it's a fair point
13:07 gmcharlt RoganH: I recalled that we discussed this the other day... do you want to put it through its paces a bit before we make an announcement?
13:08 RoganH Yeah, let me play with it for a couple of days.
13:08 gmcharlt kmlussier: very creatively... http://evergreen-ils.org/jobs/
13:08 RoganH I'll do some test posts, deletions, etc...
13:08 gmcharlt RoganH: it also exposes a jobs dashboard
13:08 gmcharlt http://evergreen-ils.org/job-dashboard/
13:08 kmlussier When you've run it through its paces, I would like to share the link with OPW. As OPW sponsors, I think we get a benefit of having our jobs page listed on their site.
13:11 RoganH shiny ball received
13:11 gmcharlt RoganH++
13:12 kmlussier RoganH++
13:12 gmcharlt so, noting a couple action items for myself
13:12 gmcharlt #action (carry-over) gmcharlt will coordinate/assist with dbs to move the planet
13:12 gmcharlt #action gmcharlt with work with DIG to get a test VM for doc-building set up
13:13 kmlussier gmcharlt++
13:13 RoganH gmcharlt++
13:13 gmcharlt next up, the FAQs...
16:47 * berick recalls a recent conversation about that
16:47 kmlussier Yup. http://markmail.org/message/jsrbhxlwr2dshglv
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17:45 gmcharlt dokuwiki updated to current stable version
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09:05 aashita Hi Berick!
09:05 aashita i Just want to know only Julia Lima has done editing of UI style guide
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09:36 mrpeters trying to load the concerto, etc. data in 2.7 -- error that "env_create.sql" is missing.  Is this a part of the test dataset that maybe got left out, or a missing dependency
09:39 tsbere mrpeters: I see env_create.sql in what I believe to be the correct location
09:40 mrpeters is that not /home/opensrf/Evergreen-ILS-2.7​.0/Open-ILS/tests/datasets/sql ?
09:40 * tsbere is also looking at master
09:41 Dyrcona mrpeters: Is this from git or a tarball?
09:41 mrpeters tarball
09:43 Dyrcona "Someone" being bshum. ;)
09:44 Dyrcona I checked rel_2_7 and tags/rel_2_7_0, and the file is in both branches where it should be.
09:44 Dyrcona Just for the record.
09:45 mrpeters /home/opensrf/Evergreen-ILS-2.7​.0/Open-ILS/tests/datasets/sql is correct location, no?
09:45 Dyrcona Yes, it is.
09:45 Dyrcona jason@jason:~/Src/Evergreen$ find ./ -name env_create.sql
09:45 Dyrcona ./Open-ILS/tests/datasets/sql/env_create.sql
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10:24 kmlussier dbs: I must have missed your comment in IRC regarding adding berick's script-based install to the README, but if you point me in the right direction, I can, at a minimum, add it to the OPW wiki page.
10:25 kmlussier I'll even try to add it to the README if I get a minute to breathe. :)
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10:31 mrpeters hmm, so the env_create is in the tarball, it's just looking for it in the cd, so you have to be in the tests/datasets/sql/ directory
10:31 mrpeters my fault for the false alarm
10:33 tsbere mrpeters: Are you loading the files manually, instead of with eg_db_config?
10:33 mrpeters the test data?  i just do psql evergreen < load_all.sql
10:33 tsbere mrpeters: If you use the flags for eg_db_config it does the cd and such for you.
10:33 mrpeters i just was supplying the full path to load_all.sql, not realizing i had to be in that directory
10:34 mrpeters ah, interesting.  didn't know you could use eg_db_config to load all of that test data
10:36 tsbere mrpeters: --load-all-sample or --load-concerto-sample, I think.
10:36 mrpeters awesome, good to know
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11:18 mrpeters ok, carry on
11:18 mrpeters just wanted to dispell your incorrect impression
11:18 tsbere besides, if you screw up the install steps you may not realize you did so if the package has things in the right place and your install has them in the wrong one, then bash your head as to why your changes aren't working.
11:18 mrpeters the packaged evergreen is a VERY good way for someone to quickly get a test system up and running as long as they understand basic IP addressing and know how to install linux packages
11:20 mrpeters thats fine, if you dont see it fit for a developer don't use it, no big deal, just sharing the information that this is available to anyone, and the myth that it is "just for PINES" is completely false
11:20 tsbere mrpeters: My assumption was "PINES has public non-customized and private customized package sets" - I never assumed the ones I could get at were customized for PINES.
11:21 gmcharlt well, rather depends on what the ultimate purpose is - if you want a running EG instance to test or document, sure, try the packages
11:21 gmcharlt if you are aiming to do *coding* ... at the moment, I don't see any responsible way around installing from a git clone if the end result is meant to be useful to a *coder*
11:24 mrpeters that is fair
11:25 Dyrcona And, what about production? Do you think that would work from a packaged version?\
11:25 Dyrcona Right now, Evergreen is very "old school" in how you install it. Not saying I have a problem with that, but that is not noob friendly.
11:46 csharp there are some hard-coded assumptions/choices that we have to make for packaging, but we think they're sane and easily changed
11:47 Dyrcona For us, we build directly from git, and make an integration branch.
11:47 mrpeters built right from the same code we use to build up PINES
11:47 Dyrcona We also have two developers with development and test servers, so we're doing integration on a fairly frequent basis.
11:47 csharp however, (sorry mrpeters :-) ), I have to agree with others that building from source (either by hand or by script) is the best way to participate in community development
11:47 Dyrcona Conflicts occur, but are often noticed and resolved quickly, and well before we go into production.
11:48 mrpeters i agree for CODE development
11:48 Dyrcona We also load onto the test server several weeks before we go live in production so members can have a go at finding things that might not be quite right.
11:48 mrpeters but if you just want to quickly test out evergreen, man, its a fast way to do it
11:49 csharp I completely agree that using our deb repo is the easiest way to get up and running on Ubuntu on the most current stable release
11:50 mrpeters i just remember the days when we supplied virtual box images for people who just wanted to "test out" evergreen
11:50 csharp but... it obviously comes with the same limitations as all the other methods people have discussed (preferences, best practices, etc. can vary widely)
11:50 mrpeters and it was a nightmare, they were always outdated, nobody wanted to manage them, etc.
11:50 mrpeters had i known about this repo back then, man the pain we could have avoided!
17:49 berick Bmagic: that's probably it
17:50 Bmagic You think it's possible that the update query from the reshelver could hit on rows that have their status=1 even though the query clearly is looking for 7?
17:51 berick grr, i opened a LP ticket about this a really long time ago, now i can't find it
17:51 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:51 berick https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1018011
17:51 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1018011 in Evergreen 2.4 "Incorrect copy status caused by reshelving process colliding with item checkout" (affected: 4, heat: 20) [Medium,Confirmed]
17:52 berick wow, for the first time ever, LP search worked better than google

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09:59 berick bshum: heh. good idea!
10:00 bshum aashita: If you send a request to that email, I would expect that one of the volunteers who works that address could help get you set up.
10:02 * berick will respond to aashita via email as well
10:03 bshum athira: Hmm, there are certainly many ways to contribute to Evergreen.  Contribution takes many forms, I often think straight to code, but there's also documentation, testing, developing proposals for new features.
10:03 bshum (just naming things off the top of my head, there's no exact list I can point you at)
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10:13 aashita Thanks Berick and bshum
10:13 aashita I have sent mail.
16:22 mrpeters its the splash page only
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17:38 berick huh, same node error we saw a few weeks ago.
17:38 bshum I'm starting to get paranoid about that
17:42 bshum berick's new acq bugs also make me twitchy.

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15:14 atlas__ but getting the error opening handshake when hitting it at 192.168.5.123
15:14 atlas__ interesting
15:16 Dyrcona Dunno. I haven't messed with websockets, yet.
15:18 bshum Yeah the websockets are only happiest with valid SSL certs.
15:21 bshum I think there's a way to set an exception in certain browsers. I haven't tested that far yet.
15:21 * bshum is back in the car headed home. Good time for a nap.
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18:01 atlas__ how to blow away the database on 2.7?  tried running the eg_db_config script again but got a bunch of error
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02:36 paxed see http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-​Basics-Getting-a-Git-Repository
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03:41 athira paxed: How long it will take to clone it?
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06:42 athira Hi,I got the source package ,How will I find the file where the bug is existing https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1319964 ?
06:42 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1319964 in Evergreen "double-escaped entity in "Summaries & More" label" (affected: 2, heat: 14) [Low,New] - Assigned to Athira S (athirasnamby)
17:18 atlas__ alright well I got it
17:18 atlas__ some slight hints that I needed apache-websockets would have been nice
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11:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1379824 in Evergreen "Make PermaCrud.js disconnect() actually disconnect" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379824
11:33 yboston dbwells: nice!
11:34 bshum Calling 0894
11:37 yboston dbwells: is there anything I can help with? do you need me to test the commit and sign it off?
11:38 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1374551: Create index on money.billing.voider to speed user merge. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=44bca3b>
11:38 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1374551: Stamping upgrade script for new index on money.billing.voider - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=896dea5>
11:38 dbwells yboston: testing and signoffs are always appreciated!
11:50 bshum Hmm, California.
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13:35 bshum bmills: I just pushed the selfcheck timeout fix to the repos. Hopefully you can make use of that fix sometime. :)
13:37 bmills bshum: thanks!
13:38 bmills bshum++
13:39 bshum mmorgan++ # thanks for testing!
13:39 bshum jboyer-isl++ # think check on the JavaScript.
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14:07 mmorgan bshum++ # thanks for fixing :)
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17:22 Bmagic bmills: I'm not going to be much help as our system is not currently using authority. I hope there is someone here with more expierence with the DB authority.normalize_heading. You could bring it to the email list and get more response.
17:23 bmills Bmagic: thanks!
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17:54 bbqben jihpringle: bring leftovers to the office next week?
17:55 jihpringle bbqben: I wish, I'm going to family friends for dinner so I won't have leftovers :(
20:07 bshum My experience thus far is primarily Debian/Ubuntu.
20:08 atlas__ I figured I should have started with one of those since they are listed first in the instruction order
20:08 atlas__ so when I try to start all the opensrf services I just get 'authentication failed' and its because ejabberd seems to be borked
20:09 bshum atlas__: Fedora is one of the targets, but nobody actively uses Fedora in production for Evergreen (as far as I know)
20:10 bshum I think it's mainly there cause there's a few Fedora enthusiasts among the developers :)
20:10 bshum It's entirely possible that something needs more love with Fedora 20.  Just a quick glance at the instructions for OpenSRF seem to me that they were written with Fedora 17+ in mind (which might also mean that they haven't been fully tested yet with 20)
20:10 atlas__ what do people run in production
20:11 bshum Yeah, the Fedora build slave at testing.evergreen-ils.org is only Fedora 18.
20:11 bshum atlas__: Go for Debian or Ubuntu.
20:11 bshum Presently, Debian Wheezy (7.0) or Ubuntu 12.04 server would be my best recommendations.
20:12 bshum Ubuntu 14.04 support is still... being worked out.
20:12 atlas__ any reason to do one over the other? i've got more experience with ubuntu, but yeah 14.04 would be a lot better
20:13 atlas__ I'd rather Fedora (clearly!).  But if Debian is what most use in production I could probably figure it out.
20:13 bshum atlas__: I consider it to be a personal preference.  I use Ubuntu 12.04 for our systems.
22:31 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/714694 like dollar signs, etc.
22:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 714694 in OpenSRF "Passwords cannot contain certain special characters" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Won't fix]
22:31 atlas__ ba dum tish
22:31 bshum You'll want to try something a little simpler for testing :)
22:32 atlas__ can I just re-run these register commands to get new ejabbderctl passwords
22:33 bshum I was just looking up how to change the passwords
22:33 atlas__ thank you thank you
22:33 bshum ejabberdctl man page, whee
22:34 bshum So maybe something like
22:34 bshum sudo ejabberdctl change-password opensrf private.localhost password
22:34 bshum Repeat for all four users
22:34 bshum But basically "ejabberdctl change-password <user> <hostname> <password>"
22:35 bshum And then make sure you change up your opensrf_core.xml passwords to match it
22:35 bshum And .srfsh.xml too
22:35 bshum For purposes of getting going, I'd do something alphanumeric.
22:35 bshum Or if it's purely a test system... *cough, cough* "password" is probably fine :)
22:37 bshum Maybe we ought to consider putting a note on that in the OpenSRF README on how people should avoid certain special characters that are known to break things.
22:37 * bshum adds reminder for his future self.
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00:28 aashita My quest is which in order to have a look on interfaces that you are working on, how to have access to that?
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09:17 * Bmagic thanks pinesol_green for the slammin' slice of life
09:44 csharp bshum: Evergreen 2.7 needs OpenSRF 2.4+, yes?
09:45 bshum csharp: That is ideal, yes.
09:45 bshum I personally have not tested it with lower versions.
09:45 csharp ok - we're setting up our test environment and noticed that OpenSRF 2.4 is still alpha
09:47 bshum And?
09:49 csharp just wondering if there's something that needs to happen to push it forward to beta, RC, then release
09:50 csharp as you know, we don't like going live on "non-stable" versions of things
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09:48 dbs Oh, I know Sid.
09:49 dbs I'm still decrementing ubuntu because this problem has existed for a couple of years.
09:51 csharp well, to be pedantic, the LTS releases sync with debian testing, so this is likely a problem that would exist in jessie too
09:52 csharp unless it doesn't pass muster with Debian testers, that is
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10:15 kmlussier Web client testing is also a good way to remember old bugs that I forgot to file in LP.
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10:48 kmlussier I'm looking at the self-check docs at http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.7/_self_che​ckout.html#_configuring_self_check_behavior. For "Patron Login Timeout," it says not currently supported. Is that still true?
10:48 bshum kmlussier: Right
10:49 kmlussier Oh, wait. I see the bug report.
10:49 bshum kmlussier: So there's a bug ticket for that and I wrote new code during the hackaway
10:51 bshum I haven't decided if it's a "new feature" or a "bug fix" though.
10:53 kmlussier I would think bug fix since there is an existing setting that doesn't work.
10:53 * mmorgan agrees that it's a bug fix
10:53 bshum Oh fun then.
10:54 bshum Well if anyone feels brave to try :)
10:54 bshum http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/​user/bshum/lp1306814-selfcheck-timeout
10:54 bshum That's where I put the initial code I was poking at
10:54 bshum I have to test it with an actual library setting configured.
10:57 bshum I updated the bug report with a link to the code
10:57 bshum And assigned targets as a bug fix.
10:57 csharp heh - so it multiplies the patron timeout value by 1000?
10:57 bshum Right, cause I think the setting is assigned as seconds
10:57 bshum But the value is like milliseconds
11:01 kmlussier bshum: But some of that was based on your custom 001 record attribute, right?
11:01 bshum kmlussier: Correct, for us, abnormally large entries in our uncontrolled values table was causing slowdown, among other things.
11:01 * kmlussier is looking at search performance on a system that doesn't have custom record attributes.
11:01 bshum I'm finishing testing eeevil's fixes for that.
11:02 bshum Define "slow"
11:02 bshum Like have you guys turned on the debug timing and grabbed numbers on how things are?
11:03 kmlussier This is a system where they timed searches on 2.5 and then timed then again after uprading the same system to 2.6. We're seeing numbers where the search took 3 seconds on 2.5 and is now taking 12-14 seconds. A big difference.
11:03 kmlussier bshum: No, we haven't.
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11:38 dbwells kmlussier: We didn't experience anything like the slowdowns shown in your chart. (great chart btw!)  We also have a "normal" uncontrolled_record_attr_value table size (2551 rows).
11:39 kmlussier dbwells: The credit for the great chart goes to tspindler. :)
11:47 bshum csharp: Vacuuming the table didn't do anything for us, the new code helped :)
11:50 Bmagic Im testing 2.7, right off the bat I don't see the secondary permission group UI in the staff client. Was there something I forgot to setup?
11:51 kmlussier Bmagic: It should just display in the patron editor. And you need permission to see it.
11:52 Bmagic kmlussier: huh, no magic trick? I am using an account with global everything
11:54 bshum Hmm, it's working for me
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11:55 Bmagic I preformed an upgrade on an existing directory full of 2.6.1 code
11:56 Bmagic aka /openils
11:56 bshum Bmagic: That I don't know, all I know is that a clean install test server I was looking at seems fine.
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12:09 berick gmcharlt: were you able to make any headway w/ your nginx for websockets test?
12:10 berick one of the OPW candidates cannot access webby... wondering if it's a port issue
12:10 Bmagic bshum: I got it figured out, yay!
12:10 gmcharlt berick: wouldn't surprise if it were; I expect to have tuits for that tomorrow
12:10 kmlussier berick: We had a similar issue with another OPW candidate. We narrowed it down to the ports issue.
16:11 bshum See, this bug....
16:11 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1369169
16:11 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1369169 in OpenSRF "Add install instructions for websockets to README (and other cleanup)" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
16:11 berick Bmagic: node, bower, etc. are only used for dependency retrieval and unit tests.  it's not needed for running the browser client.
16:12 bshum Bmagic: http://evergreen-ils.org/~bshum/OpenSRF-README.ht​ml#_optional_websockets_installation_instructions
16:12 bshum That's a generated copy of the integrated steps
16:12 Bmagic !!
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17:51 bshum But gmcharlt, the quest_for_knowledge is over!
17:51 bshum http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=c​ommit;h=988605ececad7850f2a7276b64a697b6b5c9ae31
17:51 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1290496: The quest for knowledge is over - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=988605e>

Results for 2014-10-06

15:08 bshum kmlussier++ # testing too :)
15:08 jeff #action dbwells to update Conditional Negative Balances bug 1198465 with links to new branches, etc.
15:08 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1198465 in Evergreen "Support for Conditional Negative Balances" (affected: 14, heat: 62) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198465
15:09 jeff kmlussier++ dbwells++ berick++ Dyrcona++ and probably more :-)
15:09 jeff #info jeff and csharp to test websockets work by the end of this week.
15:09 jeff That happened and/or didn't happen, but what did happen was (iirc):
15:09 jeff #info gmcharlt to cut alpha of OpenSRF the middle of next week (week of Aug. 4th)
15:10 bshum That did occur I think
15:10 bshum Or at least, there's an OpenSRF 2.4 alpha around :)
15:10 * jeff nods
15:15 bshum There's a few things we have to put in there I think
15:15 bshum And I need to revisit the updates I made to the main README for websocket steps.
15:15 jeff bshum: currently, due to websockets and other things, Evergreen 2.7 does require OpenSRF 2.4 alpha, correct? Downloads page seems to confirm...
15:15 bshum Generally speaking, yes.
15:15 bshum I never tested it with anything less.
15:15 bshum I think that's correct though.
15:16 bshum It doesn't require websockets
15:16 jeff bshum: anything specific that you/gmcharlt could use help/signoff with toward the goal of OpenSRF 2.4 making it to release?
15:16 bshum But I think there were other changes.
15:16 bshum Bug with branch is https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1369169
15:18 bshum Now that Dyrcona mentions it, the only reason to use OpenSRF 2.4 with Evergreen 2.7 is if you wanted websockets to play with the web based staff client.  I think.
15:18 ldw #info ldw is Liam Whalen Sitka
15:18 jeff #topic Release info - Evergreen
15:18 bshum I didn't personally test OpenSRF 2.3 stable with Evergreen 2.7 though to make sure that XUL stuff and catalog is still happy.
15:18 jeff Evergreen 2.7 is released! Everyone's upgraded by now, right?
15:18 * jeff ducks
15:18 bshum If anyone wants to volunteer to try that, maybe that's worth it.
15:18 bshum But really, getting 2.4 out the door is better anyways :D
15:19 bshum jeff: Actually......!
15:19 jeff #info Testing of Evergreen 2.7 with OpenSRF 2.3 would be appreciated -- pass feedback to bshum
15:19 Dyrcona jeff: We're on 2.7alpha give or take a few later fixes.
15:19 bshum We were going to upgrade to 2.7 a few days after I cut 2.7.0, but we were delayed a bit.  We plan our upgrade to 2.7 this upcoming Saturday.
15:19 jeff excellent.
15:21 jeff #info bshum to push things to rel_2_7 in preparation for scheduled 2.7.1 maintenance release
15:21 bshum If anyone else has any bug fixes with code that they want to see in 2.7.1, please feel free to target or put a pullrequest up.
15:21 jeff #info bshum pulling updated translations for tpac (and other areas) into 2.7.1
15:22 bshum And if anyone has time to test and sign-off on them, that'd be great too :)
15:22 jeff bshum: anything else for Evergreen release info/updates?
15:22 bshum Nothing for me.  I hope to keep 2.7 series happy and stable.
15:22 jeff #info targeting, testing/signoff of bugs against 2.7.1 appreciated as always
15:22 jeff bshum++
15:23 kmlussier bshum++
15:23 Dyrcona bshum++
15:23 jeff #topic New Business
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17:35 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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