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Stompro |
@marc 586 |
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pinesol_green |
Stompro: Information on awards associated with the described item. (Repeatable) [a,3,6,8] |
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* kmlussier |
wonders if she set a deadline for filling out the Bug Squashing Day Doodle poll. |
| 11:26 |
kmlussier |
Oh, I did! And it was yesterday. If anyone wants to add their availability before I close the poll, now is the time to do it. http://doodle.com/37t68334m82qb5it |
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* berick |
idly muses droping libdbi and using libpq directly |
| 12:24 |
Marble01 |
Hello everyone. Does anyone know what may cause intermittent network failure message, from the staff client, when performing a Z39.50 lookup? |
| 12:32 |
csharp |
Marble01: are you on Ubuntu 12.04? |
| 12:32 |
Marble01 |
Yes |
| 12:33 |
csharp |
bug 1172332 may be related |
| 12:33 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1172332 in Evergreen "simple2zoom has segmentation faults" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172332 |
| 12:33 |
dbs |
berick++ |
| 12:37 |
dbs |
surely we can drop the fiction that we're actually going to port to Oracle or DB2 or MariaDB by now |
| 12:38 |
csharp |
+1 |
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berick |
dbs: indeed... and if someone were to try such a test, recoving libdbi would the easiest part of that project. |
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berick |
s/test/task/ |
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gmcharlt |
berick: just a bit easier than implementing plpgsql for mariadb ;) |
| 12:53 |
Marble01 |
Is there a recommend method for rotating Evergreen logs? There appears to be a section about in the Evergreen 2.1 docs but not beyond that version. |
| 12:54 |
Dyrcona |
Marble01: You could look try logrotate. |
| 12:55 |
Dyrcona |
Me spill chucker woks grate. I needle gamma chicken. |
| 12:56 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: gamma chicken? may a suggest a plain old microwave? ;) |
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gmcharlt |
*may I |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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* Dyrcona |
prefers bar-b-q. |
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berick |
gmcharlt: hah, but that sounds like tons of fun |
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gmcharlt |
berick: well, I'd actually be thrilled with better procedural language support in mysql/mariadb |
| 13:24 |
gmcharlt |
not planning on implementing that, mind you :) |
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berick |
;) |
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Marble01 |
Thanks for the assistance everyone. Have a good day! |
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Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: Implementing extensions in C is not good enough for you? ;) |
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Dyrcona |
Hm... Wonder what happens to a serial with circ as type 'a'? I imagine it still circs as a serial and not just the line for marc type a. |
| 14:16 |
Dyrcona |
I may try it just to confirm. |
| 14:16 |
Dyrcona |
In fact, I will try it. |
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Dyrcona |
Yep. That's what I thought: still circulates as a serial for 7 days. |
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kmlussier |
@dessert [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs some Sweet Potato Pie for egbuilder |
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gmcharlt |
bots feeding bots? |
| 14:51 |
kmlussier |
That's a waste. egbuilder can't appreciate a good Sweet Potato Pie. |
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kmlussier |
@dessert [somebody] |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs some Banana Puddin' for http://images.cryhavok.org/d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif |
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kmlussier |
Bah! |
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kmlussier |
@dessert [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs some Tiramisu for bshum |
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mmorgan |
oh, that somebody is quite undeserving of Banana Puddin' |
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kmlussier |
mmorgan: I disagree. I think if that somebody really needs a Banana Puddin' more than anyone else here. :) |
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mmorgan |
ok, you're right, I guess. I just find it kinda disturbing ... |
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mmorgan |
jeff: NOBLE is very interested in your stats dashboard and your work with jasper reports. Do you have getting started resources you can share? Has anyone else set up something similar? |
| 15:09 |
jeff |
mmorgan: at present I'm only aware of TADL and TADL partners doing much with Jasper and/or that specific dashboard. On the dashboard itself, we're hoping to revisit and package up some code (there wasn't even a LOCAL git repo until last week sometime) before the end of the year. |
| 15:09 |
jeff |
mmorgan: I'll message you email addresses for wjr and I -- feel free to pass them on to interested parties in the meantime. |
| 15:10 |
mmorgan |
jeff: OK, Thanks! |
| 15:10 |
jeff |
mmorgan: and thanks for asking -- because that kind of thing gives me hope that others are interested. :-) |
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* dbs |
begins pondering varying hold slips based on patron stat cats |
| 15:11 |
jeff |
there's also http://www.tadl.org/about/stats if you didn't see it already |
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* wjr |
looks around |
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* jeff |
waves to wjr |
| 15:11 |
wjr |
saw my name :) |
| 15:12 |
dbs |
wjr. as i live and breathe. |
| 15:14 |
wjr |
greetings! |
| 15:14 |
mmorgan |
jeff: it's very slick and is the type of thing we've been wanting to do for a long time. |
| 15:16 |
* Dyrcona |
wonders how the reports development that PINES has contracted is going. |
| 15:16 |
wjr |
I'm starting to roll up my sleeves in preparation for rewriting the whole thing from scratch again :) |
| 15:16 |
wjr |
I want to use angular and have at least some of the numbers update in realtime. |
| 15:18 |
dbs |
nice |
| 15:18 |
jeff |
and I've been looking at some of the backend queries and thinking "wow, what were we thinking?" ;-) |
| 15:18 |
wjr |
top10 lists? :P |
| 15:19 |
wjr |
jeff: with at least some of those queries I was thinking "excellent. that works. next!" |
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wjr |
and ignoring the whole "this query takes more than 30 seconds to run" issue ;) |
| 15:20 |
jeff |
we've also brought on an additional client/partner library into our shared system which is not part of our library district, which has given us the opportunity to segment both the stats dashboard and Jasper Reports in ways that force us to avoid things like "hardcoded to TADL org units" |
| 15:20 |
dbs |
hmm. no info in the docs on how to customize hold slips? Seems like that would be a reasonably common activity |
| 15:22 |
jeff |
dbs: pretty sure that's still a weak part of docs. if you haven't found it yet, http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/2528 may be helpful. |
| 15:23 |
dbs |
Ah, I think http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.7/_receipt_template_editor.html has the core information |
| 15:26 |
jeff |
dbs: oh excellent. i think that even incorporates things that were only in phasefx's EG2014 talk until recently. |
| 15:44 |
kmlussier |
Stompro++ #First commit to the working repository. |
| 15:45 |
Stompro |
Thanks Kathy |
| 15:59 |
Stompro |
jeff: I also like the tadl stats page, nice. |
| 15:59 |
kmlussier |
Stompro: Thanks for doc bug wrangling too! For doc fixes, you can skip the Fix Committed step and go right to Fix Released just to cut back on some of the churn. |
| 16:00 |
jeff |
Stompro: thanks! wjr should get most of the credit for that. :-) |
| 16:00 |
jeff |
wjr++ |
| 16:01 |
Stompro |
wjr++ I'll be sending the stats page out to co-workers to take a look at right now. |
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jeff |
so, serious question... if we put more effort into making that a customizable thing, do people here think that their library would make use of it? |
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jeff |
or are there hangups (technical or political) that you think would need to be overcome first? |
| 16:13 |
jeff |
where "making that a customizable thing" is more along the lines of "making our stats dashboard more friendly for people to set up for their own libraries", perhaps. |
| 16:16 |
jeff |
the basic workings of it at present are: cron job runs that outputs various SQL queries to CSV and copies CSV to web server. PHP on web server reads CSV data and outputs web page. |
| 16:16 |
jeff |
that last part was mostly because the "read it from a CSV file" bits of highcharts were not suitable at the time. |
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kmlussier |
jeff: What level of technical skill would be require if you made it more customizable? |
| 16:20 |
kmlussier |
It seems to me that it would be a clear win to make it more customizable, unless it was something that were really hard to implement. |
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dbs |
One could potentially take PHP out of the mix and just feed the CSV to a JS library? |
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Stompro |
jeff: I think we would consider using it, it looks like a great marketing tool. Are the EG stats gathered nightly right now? |
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jeff |
Stompro: yes. there is presently some manual confirmation of successful database rotation when it comes to things like the public computing usage stats, so those weekly graphs don't update automatically. the rest is just a scheduled cron job. |
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jeff |
dbs: yes, or have the backend scripts generate json files instead of CSV -- both should be able to remove the PHP requirement from the front end. |
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* dbs |
likes it |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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