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08:40 Dyrcona Meh. Seems we can never do anything in concert with Koha.
08:40 Dyrcona Meh. Seems we can never do anything in concert with Koha.
08:40 Dyrcona If you look at what I've done for NCIPServer and what rangi has done, they're presently incompatible.
08:40 Dyrcona If you look at what I've done for NCIPServer and what rangi has done, they're presently incompatible.
08:42 Dyrcona I am also concerned that the vendor (i.e. the NCIP service trying to connect to our responder) can't seem to do SSL with my development machine, and my dev. machine has a "valid" cert.
08:42 Dyrcona I am also concerned that the vendor (i.e. the NCIP service trying to connect to our responder) can't seem to do SSL with my development machine, and my dev. machine has a "valid" cert.
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09:40 * Dyrcona loses his last shred of faith in humanity.
09:40 * Dyrcona loses his last shred of faith in humanity.
09:41 * Dyrcona watches it wither and die.
09:41 * Dyrcona watches it wither and die.
09:41 * Dyrcona gets on with his job.
09:41 * Dyrcona gets on with his job.
09:48 mmorgan @coffee Dyrcona
09:48 mmorgan @coffee Dyrcona
09:48 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Panama Esmeralda Especial, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona
09:48 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Panama Esmeralda Especial, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona
09:48 berick @whisky Dyrcona
09:48 berick @whisky Dyrcona
09:48 pinesol_green berick: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
09:48 pinesol_green berick: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
09:49 * berick should learn to spell
09:49 * berick should learn to spell
09:52 Dyrcona Um, whisky is the proper spelling if you're British.
09:52 Dyrcona Um, whisky is the proper spelling if you're British.
09:53 berick I mean, yeah, that's what I was going for
09:53 berick I mean, yeah, that's what I was going for
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15:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dananji Liyanage] Docs: add default icon definitions LP#1371598 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d1c2a17>
15:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dananji Liyanage] Docs: add default icon definitions LP#1371598 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d1c2a17>
15:27 kmlussier yboston++
15:27 kmlussier yboston++
15:27 yboston gracias, but lots of gracias's to you too
15:27 yboston gracias, but lots of gracias's to you too
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15:43 rangi Dyrcona: they can be reconciled, it just takes some effort, theres still a lot of common stuff under the hood, and yes vendors dont understand security and ncip is insecure by design
15:43 rangi Dyrcona: they can be reconciled, it just takes some effort, theres still a lot of common stuff under the hood, and yes vendors dont understand security and ncip is insecure by design
15:44 rangi the major problem is that we only had about a week when we were both working on it at the same time
15:44 rangi the major problem is that we only had about a week when we were both working on it at the same time
15:49 Dyrcona Yep.
15:49 Dyrcona Yep.
15:50 * kmlussier waves to rangi
15:50 * kmlussier waves to rangi
15:51 kmlussier Oh, weird. I just went to check the logs to find out what rangi was responding too, and everything is duplicated. http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2014-10-24
15:51 kmlussier Oh, weird. I just went to check the logs to find out what rangi was responding too, and everything is duplicated. http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2014-10-24
15:51 kmlussier s/too/to
15:51 kmlussier s/too/to
15:52 Dyrcona Nifty.
15:52 Dyrcona Nifty.
15:54 kmlussier @eightball Is there an echo in here?
15:54 kmlussier @eightball Is there an echo in here?
15:54 pinesol_green kmlussier: About as likely as pigs flying.
15:54 pinesol_green kmlussier: About as likely as pigs flying.
15:55 Dyrcona @eightball Does anything fly given enough thrust?
15:55 Dyrcona @eightball Does anything fly given enough thrust?
15:55 pinesol_green Dyrcona: What are you asking me for?
15:55 pinesol_green Dyrcona: What are you asking me for?
15:56 kmlussier eightball appears to be a little snippy today.
15:56 kmlussier eightball appears to be a little snippy today.
15:59 rangi Dyrcona: my plan is to get all the unit tests up to scratch, then merge your stuff and fix until the tests pass again, moving my branch to old_stuff and the new merged branch becoming master
15:59 rangi Dyrcona: my plan is to get all the unit tests up to scratch, then merge your stuff and fix until the tests pass again, moving my branch to old_stuff and the new merged branch becoming master
15:59 Dyrcona rangi: Cool, bro. ;)
15:59 Dyrcona rangi: Cool, bro. ;)
16:00 Dyrcona I'm still working with Auto-graphics. Found some template issues last night. I botched the messages a bit.
16:00 Dyrcona I'm still working with Auto-graphics. Found some template issues last night. I botched the messages a bit.
16:00 Dyrcona Also, it seems that when validating with the schema, the order of some of the elements matters.
16:00 Dyrcona Also, it seems that when validating with the schema, the order of some of the elements matters.
16:03 rangi yeah i had to work with auto graphics too .. you'd think they would know their product better, but no ... werent able to get sample messages, couldnt set up a test instance etc ... everything just takes a zillion times longer, didnt help that they first were sending ncip 1.0 messages then changed to 2.0 mid dev stream
16:03 rangi yeah i had to work with auto graphics too .. you'd think they would know their product better, but no ... werent able to get sample messages, couldnt set up a test instance etc ... everything just takes a zillion times longer, didnt help that they first were sending ncip 1.0 messages then changed to 2.0 mid dev stream
16:17 Dyrcona Oh, I was going to do this earlier, but got distracted by work: xmllint++ xmlstarlet++
16:17 Dyrcona Oh, I was going to do this earlier, but got distracted by work: xmllint++ xmlstarlet++
16:32 kmlussier I've always wondered - is there a reason the bib record in the catalog shows both a "Next 10" link and a "show more copies" link? Shouldn't it be one or the other?
16:32 kmlussier I've always wondered - is there a reason the bib record in the catalog shows both a "Next 10" link and a "show more copies" link? Shouldn't it be one or the other?
16:40 mmorgan I wondered the same thing, but discovered that "Show more copies" means show more per screen. Show more copies changes the number displayed to 50, and you get a "Next 50" link
16:40 mmorgan I wondered the same thing, but discovered that "Show more copies" means show more per screen. Show more copies changes the number displayed to 50, and you get a "Next 50" link
16:40 mmorgan ...assuming there are that many copies.
16:40 mmorgan ...assuming there are that many copies.
16:42 kmlussier Yes, I see the distinction, but I still feel like users expect to see one way to page.
16:42 kmlussier Yes, I see the distinction, but I still feel like users expect to see one way to page.
16:43 * kmlussier is generally a fan of options, just not here.
16:44 * kmlussier is generally a fan of options, just not here.
16:44 mmorgan I agree it is a little clunky looking. And a user can also set a preferred number per page, so I'm not sure that having the show more copies for a not logged in user is useful.
16:44 mmorgan I agree it is a little clunky looking. And a user can also set a preferred number per page, so I'm not sure that having the show more copies for a not logged in user is useful.
16:50 mmorgan This must be staring me in the face. What determines how long a hold remains on a library's pull list before being retargeted?
16:50 mmorgan This must be staring me in the face. What determines how long a hold remains on a library's pull list before being retargeted?
17:04 berick mmorgan: the hold targeter script which runs regularly re-targets by default every 24 hours
17:04 berick mmorgan: the hold targeter script which runs regularly re-targets by default every 24 hours
17:04 berick you can change it by editing /openils/bin/hold_targeter.pl
17:04 berick you can change it by editing /openils/bin/hold_targeter.pl
17:05 berick in other words, if the copy is not targeted within 24hrs (by default), the targeter looks for another copy
17:05 berick in other words, if the copy is not targeted within 24hrs (by default), the targeter looks for another copy
17:05 berick s/copy is not targeted/copy is not captured/
17:05 berick s/copy is not targeted/copy is not captured/
17:05 mmorgan Ah. Ok, I thought it was an ou setting. I was mistaken.
17:05 mmorgan Ah. Ok, I thought it was an ou setting. I was mistaken.
17:05 mmorgan Thanks!
17:05 mmorgan Thanks!
17:05 berick no prob
17:05 berick no prob
17:06 berick ideally it would be a setting of some sort
17:06 berick ideally it would be a setting of some sort
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17:10 kmlussier @sortinghat
17:10 kmlussier @sortinghat
17:10 pinesol_green Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... RAVENCLAW!
17:10 pinesol_green Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... RAVENCLAW!
17:11 kmlussier Heh...my daughter is amused by that.
17:11 kmlussier Heh...my daughter is amused by that.
17:17 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:17 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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17:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1384868: limit fund drop-downs on the invoice page to only active funds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e29499>
17:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1384868: limit fund drop-downs on the invoice page to only active funds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e29499>
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19:24 bshum I just killed the extra bot that was running in the background.
19:24 bshum That was what was duplicating IRC log entries.
19:26 bshum Not sure where it came from.
19:26 bshum Maybe something to look into later.
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