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Results for 2017-01-19

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09:09 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jeanette Lundgren] LP#1494362 Docs: oversized screenshot - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cb07714>
09:28 jeff like like actor_usr_family_name_unaccent_idx may have an unqualified function call that presents a pg_restore challenge.
09:29 * jeff looks
09:29 * Bmagic_ wakes

Results for 2017-01-18

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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06:16 csharp berick: for when you're back around, in the new hold targeter, there needs to be a space added in one of the log messages (HoldTargeter.pm, lines 696/697):
06:16 csharp $self->log_hold("skipping copy ".
15:39 Dyrcona I intended to submit one last Thursday/Friday....
15:40 bshum Well I think I remember reading about how popular git talks can be. :)
15:40 Dyrcona heh
15:40 kmlussier bshum / Dyrcona: Will I really get my money back if I don't get a test system up and running?
15:41 kmlussier And why did my /me not working earlier?
15:41 Dyrcona Maybe you had a space in front of it.
15:42 Dyrcona /me
15:42 Dyrcona Like that.
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16:59 jeff hrm.
17:00 jeff dear pingest: why do you appear to be stuck on your final batch of 100 records on this system?
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17:05 jeff hrm. seems to be spinning on metabib.browse_entry_def_map
17:07 csharp jeff: the inline comments mention that
17:08 csharp took about 20 hours for it to process on our server
17:08 csharp in one test run it took 36 hours
17:09 jeff ah:
17:09 jeff # This subroutine forks a process to do the browse-only ingest on the
17:09 jeff # @blist above.  It cannot be parallelized, but can run in parrallel

Results for 2017-01-17

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10:06 berick csharp: iirc, it's pulling data from aged_circulation now
10:07 csharp right - and action.circulation and action.aged_circulations are huge and are getting seq scans
10:10 berick got the original query and/or analyze?
10:10 csharp I'm running an explain analyze now on our test server - coming soon (or not)
10:10 csharp argh - it's not giving me any useful data
10:11 csharp http://pastebin.com/SHumZdwj
10:11 JBoyer You'll likely have to run some of the queries inside it by hand to see what's really happening. postgres really doesn't explain functions. :/
10:12 berick yeah...
10:14 csharp it's action.all_circ_chain, and it contains 2 loops
10:39 berick caching should not be any different w/ the new auth code.  (it all uses the same C cache client)
10:39 JBoyer Shoot. Well, you said you wanted to get through circ anyway, I'll stop grasping at straws.
10:40 berick running out of children is, of course, a problem
10:41 bshum krvmga: If there's an email text gateway for the SMS config, i don't see why not.
10:42 bshum But I haven't tested it personally in any way.
10:42 bshum And who knows with google voice, vs. I assume you mean something like Project Fi users
10:42 berick csharp: were you also seeing no-children for both open-ils.auth and auth_internal?  it may just be that the login process takes longer now, just enough to throw off the delicate balance of max_children
10:42 csharp berick: just auth, not auth_internal
10:42 berick ok
10:46 bshum krvmga: yeah I just read over this article about Project Fi integration for SMS/email  -  https://support.google.com/fi/answer/6356597?hl=en
10:47 bshum But I kind of hate it, given the precarious nature of hangouts vs. sms vs. google voice vs. whatever else google is doing under the hood with all that.
10:47 krvmga yes, thanks. i was looking at the same.
10:47 bshum They keep changing their minds over there.
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10:48 bshum Live testing, whee
10:54 csharp berick++ # adding the parent_circ index to aged_circulation works - now waiting for index creation to finish on our overloaded live DB :-)
10:54 berick awesome!
10:54 berick csharp: if you open a bug (when you have time) i'll pitch in
16:23 david___ Thanks for the input...
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18:27 _adb (eg2.11) a user reported 'permission denied:STAFF_CHR.override', but i don't see STAFF_CHR anywhere in the permissions editor. is it elsewhere?
18:51 csharp has the codes and descriptiions
18:51 _adb great, thanks
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22:30 bshum Hmm, the web client has more menus, pretty :)
22:30 * bshum built his first test server since sprint4 merge

Results for 2017-01-15

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10:25 csharp has anyone pushed the limits on the number of parallel A/T process that can run at once?
10:26 csharp I'm starting with the example config of 3 collect and 3 react
16:09 csharp ah - sure -happy to help!
16:09 csharp good luck with your upgrade ;-)
16:15 bmills csharp: thanks, you too!
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08:57 pinesol_green [evergreen|Michelle Purcell] Docs: adding section about circulating items in the Web client - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a724206>
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10:46 Dyrcona @later tell csharp https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1656549
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14:13 jeff "autoconfiscation"?
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17:40 csharp autoconfiscation++
17:40 csharp Dyrcona++ # buggin'
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Results for 2017-01-13

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07:51 rhamby morning
08:06 jeff good morning!
15:43 jeff i thought that pymarc was silently dropping subfields when there was a problematic character in the data, but that turns out to be yaz-marcdump.
15:44 jeff checking more recent versions of yaz-marcdump and changelog to see if that's a known/fixed issue, expected behavior, etc.
15:44 Dyrcona COPY is too slow. You need to use JDBC, run about 12 threads, and do batch updates of 10,000 rows a piece. :P
15:44 * phasefx uses yaz-marcdump to convert to UTF-8 and marc_cleanup from migration-tools; some records do get thrown out in that process.  Not sure about the 0107 Foo example
15:45 phasefx we should collect some problem records like that and build tests
15:45 jeff but in the case of an 020 tag with one subfield that yaz-marcdump doesn't like, you end up with an empty 020 with zero subfields, which throws a fatal error in MARCC::File::XML when it comes time to maintain_901 :-)
15:46 phasefx yeah, marc_cleanup throws out empty tags
15:46 phasefx brb
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14:16 Dyrcona Thanks! I'll probably drop the extra GIST indexes soonish.
14:17 JBoyer csharp, Am I remembering correctly that GIN is (roughly) 3x faster and 3x bigger?
14:18 JBoyer (Than GiST, that is.)
14:21 bshum Bigger, at least till you get the new stuff in PG 9.4+ (we hope)
14:21 bshum I didn't get to test it, but PG 9.4 boasted reduced GIN size in the release notes
14:21 bshum Well, test it with live data
14:24 csharp JBoyer: yep and yep
14:24 csharp I rebuilt the GIN indexes in 9.4, but didn't measure the size difference
14:24 csharp we did notice a performance improvement though
16:36 jeff is it a matter of searching for a name fragment + dob off of ID and then seeing high-probability duplicate / variant accounts?
16:37 jeff now having asked, i have a stong feeling of deja vu, but the bug is new, so...
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17:25 terran jeff: yes, that's it - in our case, we just have so many patrons that duplicate names is a huge problem, especially if we're searching by "j smith" to catch variations of john / jon / jonathon etc

Results for 2017-01-10

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08:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1655149: Badges need CDBI support for location groups - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8958094>
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08:55 miker _bott_: aye. thanks for testing it
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13:12 dbwells kmlussier: anything to note on the feedback soliciting?
13:12 kmlussier I didn't get to that action item. I'll have to defer it for next month's meeting.
13:12 kmlussier I'll send something out this week.
13:12 dbwells okay, thank you
13:13 dbwells #info kmlussier will post to open-ils-dev soliciting feedback on the release process documentation (carry over)
13:14 dbwells sorry, let me action that
13:14 dbwells #action kmlussier will post to open-ils-dev soliciting feedback on the release process documentation
13:14 dbwells #topic OpenSRF release info
13:15 dbwells #info OpenSRF 2.5-alpha was release on 7 December 2016
13:15 dbwells Does anyone else have comment on that?
13:15 dbwells as a reminder, gmcharlt is hoping for testing of three aspects:
13:15 dbwells 1. the proxy configurations
13:16 dbwells 2. bundling and chunking
13:16 dbwells 3. TZ changes
13:16 dbwells #topic Evergreen release info
13:17 dbwells #topic state of Arabic translation
13:17 dbwells phasefx: Might you be available for a quick update?  Not seeing the others in channel.
13:18 kmlussier I know there has been a lot of discussion on this over the past week. I think Nawjo may have found a solution that works for him locally.
13:20 dbwells #info some progress has been made on Arabic support with some localized changes
13:20 kmlussier There has been talk of including support in 2.12, but I don't know if anyone is actively working on it.
13:27 berick kmlussier: yes
13:27 dbwells sorry, didn't even realize the bug already had two branches on it.
13:27 kmlussier berick: I didn't address it in my web client e-mail from last week, but that was mostly an oversight. Do you consider this as a must-have branch for production use of the web client?
13:27 berick kmlussier: if we want anyone to test Hatch in production, yes
13:28 berick otherwise, not a showstopper, I don't think, but a nice to have
13:28 berick so we can start smoothing over any bugs introduced i this code
13:28 berick and fix a few along the way
13:28 kmlussier OK, I think I'm going to stop short of calling it a showstopper, but I agree that it would be better to have it in there.
13:30 kmlussier And we had people (including me) who volunteered to test it during the last meeting. I don't know if jeff or gmcharlt had a chance to look at it, but I know I didn't.
13:30 gmcharlt #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, back from a competing meeting
13:31 csharp kmlussier: not a showstopper for 2.12, but I would consider it one for 3.0 (first web client GA release)
13:31 kmlussier @blame competing meetings.
13:51 kmlussier jeffdavis: Are there specific pieces of it we can help out with?
13:51 Dyrcona Yeah, time is my shortest commodity at the moment. "So much to do....So much to do..."
13:51 dbwells jeffdavis: I probably wouldn't be able to merge your branch, since we don't subscribe to the services.  Is any part testable without subscription?
13:51 jeffdavis My current plan is to get the key UI bits working over the next couple of weeks, then share that with some basic documentation.
13:52 jeffdavis There is a test module which will be usable for seeing how it works without having subscribed to OverDrive or OneClickdigital's APIs.
13:52 jeffdavis although of course testing against live external systems would be important for including it in a release :)
13:53 jeffdavis kmlussier: not so much specific pieces until the above is done. Hoping that devs can weigh in if there are issues with the approach outlined in the LP bug, otherwise just wanted to raise awareness of this work.
13:53 kmlussier If I wanted to test it against our Overdrive, would I need to sign up for an API key ahead of time?
13:54 jeffdavis Yes. My attempts to arrange shareable vendor API access for testing have not panned out so far.
13:54 kmlussier OK, I'll try to go about doing that in preparation for testing. There's a lot of interest here too. :)
13:55 dbwells Well, I'd say awareness has been raised.  Thanks for bringing it up.  Anything else before I end the meeting?
13:55 kmlussier Yes
13:56 kmlussier I just wanted to remind everyone that I would like to schedule a web client hacking day to get more work done on the web client before the beta release.
14:02 JBoyer csharp, do you know if there are still many reports in PINES that use the dewey_block_* fields in reporter.classic_current_circ? If we try to filter on say, dewey_block_hunreds = '900' the query blows up with ERROR:  invalid input syntax for type double precision: "."
14:02 JBoyer Drop that out altogether and it's fine.
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14:05 csharp JBoyer: ewww
14:06 csharp JBoyer: I know libraries *do* use it, but I'm pretty sure we haven't tested it
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14:06 JBoyer "Eww" is what I thought too. :)
14:07 JBoyer I've been toying with a simple test query that I had clark log from a template that was built today. That error makes no sense given what it does. :/
14:08 jeff JBoyer: are you running into a situation where unexpected input data is being transformed into something which postgres then fails to cast?
14:09 jeff JBoyer: depending on how things are being transformed beforehand, you might not actually have input data of '.', but might be an empty string, or something like 'foo.bar' or ' .', etc.
14:14 csharp I've moved away from recommending the classic_current_circ source generally, though because the join to metabib.rec_descriptor creates seq scans o'plenty
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10:47 kmlussier After some light testing of the sprint4 branch, I think it's good to go in. I'll merge it this morning.
10:47 berick kmlussier++
10:48 miker kmlussier: to be certain we're all on the smae page, that's collab/miker/sprint4 yes?
10:49 kmlussier miker: Yes, that's right.
15:57 jeff Dyrcona: the GNU coreutils implementation of 'pr' does not seem to support an option that would permit use of formfeed without header/footers. This means I'll be using perl to do this work.
15:58 jeff Dyrcona: see https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/​bug-coreutils/2011-07/msg00040.html for their reasoning in not "fixing" it.
16:00 Dyrcona jeff: Install bsdutils and you'll likely get the pr from FreeBSD which does what you want, I believe. :)
16:02 miker _bott_: did you have a chance to test http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/he​ads/user/miker/aclg-cdbi-for-badges ?
16:02 Dyrcona jeff: Nope. Sorry. neither bsdutils nor bsdmainutils adds an alternate to pr, apparently.
16:02 jeff Dyrcona: alas, neither bsdutils nor bsdmainutils contain pr. i'll go with perl. :-)
16:03 jeff I have to filter out probable raw control characters in call numbers anyway.
16:10 _bott_ miker:  sure, NP
16:13 miker _bott_: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/​Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/us​er/miker/lp1655149-aclg-cdbi-for-badges
16:13 miker for bug 1655149
16:13 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1655149 in Evergreen "Copy location group searches failing post-badges" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1655149
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17:05 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jeanette Lundgren] Updated link syntax to fix broken section link. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b1fddab>
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09:47 agoben well and all the other things tied to the item ID :)
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09:51 JBoyer I can't decide if it's a good thing or a bad one that it isn't reproducible. :/
09:51 csharp works on our 2.11.1 test server as far as I can tell
09:51 csharp usually feels worse when it's not reproducible in other places :-/
09:51 * JBoyer is leaning that way
09:52 * mmorgan just checked the asset.copy table and confirmed that it's not happening on our 2.11.1 system.
09:52 JBoyer I suppose that means I should stop looking at git.evergreen-ils.org and start looking more closely at our local branch.
10:47 miker Dyrcona: strictly speaking, should not be necessary, and we don't.  autogen de-populates memcache of objects it creates, IIRC
10:48 Dyrcona miker: Thanks. I recall tsbere telling me something like that a year or two ago, and I don't always restart apache after running autogen, but often do on my dev vms at least.
10:48 Dyrcona Sometimes, that's because I just restarted services before doing the autogen, maybe. ;)
10:48 _bott_ tsbere: You may find this useful, re Net::HTTP    http://pastebin.com/raw/HpMzeRK1
10:50 _bott_ That's the result of a few lines of Perl, testing read_response_headers()
10:52 * csharp doesn't usually restart apache after autogen runs
10:54 Dyrcona cssh++
10:55 Dyrcona bshum++ # For recommending cssh
14:14 jeff i see some shady characters in your future... wait, no. malformed characters -- not shady.
14:15 * jeff makes a weak rdacarrier / medium joke
14:16 berick the spirits all recoil in horror at MARC
14:40 kmlussier Looks like it will be 1 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday the 10th. I'll add it to the calendar and send out an e-mail.
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15:26 kmlussier gmcharlt / miker: If you're around, I was thinking of testing/merging the recent web client code in the collab branch either today or first thing Monday. Is there current activity happening there that would make it a bad idea for me to do so?
15:27 gmcharlt kmlussier: no, the branch should be in a stable enough state
15:27 kmlussier gmcharlt: Great, thanks!
15:28 * kmlussier also noticed that we're just a month away from feature slush. Yikes!
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10:51 Dyrcona Bmagic: Have you had problems with added content?
10:51 _bott_ fwiw, NoveList had no issues
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10:51 Dyrcona _bott_: Thanks! I haven't tested added content on Ubuntu 16.
10:52 _bott_ Nor had I.  That's what production is for!
10:52 Dyrcona Come to think of it.... Let me check something. I might have inadvertently tested Content Cafe. ;)
10:53 Dyrcona Nope. False alarm.
10:53 Guest82566 Hi, does anyone use the Evergreen integrated credit card payment at the front desk? We use the online integrated payments and would like to look into using the front line payments as well.
10:54 Dyrcona Oh, wait. Wrong server. Yes, I have run 16.04 on a test vm where I believe Content Cafe was configured and don't recall seeing any issues.
10:54 Dyrcona Guest82566: Don't do that, unless you like paying lots of money in PCI insurance premiums.
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11:03 Guest82566 Thanks, Dyrcona.
11:35 Guest82566 Thank you, Jeff.
11:37 berick "2.75% per swipe, dip, or tap" -- spending piles of money was never so adorable
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11:41 Dyrcona berick: They all hit you with fees, but I can say from experience if you're processing the CC transactions through Evergreen, you will also pay for the insurance, because you will not pass the tests.
11:43 Dyrcona _bott_ Do yo have customizations to the Syndetics code?
11:43 _bott_ Dyrcona:  Nope, nothing for them.
11:43 Dyrcona OK. Just aking, 'cause I know you have some customizations.
11:44 bshum Bmagic: Did you test the added content in the record details, like _bott_ noted issue for?  I'm not sure if it was just that or if it affected covers, _bott_ ?
11:44 bshum I think he said reviews, etc. right?
11:44 bshum reviews, summary, etc.
11:44 _bott_ bshum: correct.
11:45 _bott_ Tabs display for each of the noted, but no content
11:46 _bott_ All seems happy until  my ($code) = $req->read_response_headers;  in Record.pm.   $code ends up empty
11:52 Dyrcona _bott_: So, I'm looking at content cafe via the opac on my old, MVLC development vm. (It's still running after over 6 months of not being touched!)
11:52 Dyrcona Novelist is working fine, but the content cafe stuff is acting bizarre.
11:53 Dyrcona So, it looks like you're on to something.
11:55 csharp We'll be testing on 16.04 soon (post upgrade to 2.11 next weekend) and we use Syndetics - if it's not solved by then, I'm willing to help
11:56 Bmagic bshum Dyrcona: sorry, I was away, I am catching up here
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11:57 JBoyer csharp, what kind of use are you seeing on your 2.11 testing server? I'm seeing a lot of seemingly random waiting on locks here. (Slony might be contributing to that though, but it has increased dramatically since the upgrade.)
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12:02 Bmagic bshum: no I didn't check that. Just the book jackets (most obvious) - I will have to take a closer look at that added content stuff
12:03 NawJO Hello everyone, I was thinking lately on solving RTL-LTR switching in TPAC, I created a custom RTL template and added it to eg.conf. I thought to add a conditional sentence on applying RTL template, but I have no clue, can you help me?
12:07 bshum So that does seem to point at a 16.04 problem with added content handling :\
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12:09 Bmagic sounds plausable
12:10 * bshum doesn't have any added content codes to test with, so will leave it in more experienced hands now :)
12:10 bshum NawJO: What I was thinking was to change something in ../opac/parts/base.tt2
12:11 bshum In there, we define the stylesheets
12:12 bshum So I was thinking to put an [% IF something.locale.something = "ar-AR" check there to see if we were using a particular locale, and then add a link to the stylesheet we add in
12:12 miker NawJO: looks like you could add something like the following to templates/opac/css/style.css.tt2 ...
12:12 bshum Otherwise, it'll skip it
12:12 bshum but sounds like miker has ideas too :)
12:14 NawJO everything set to right must be set to left and vice versa
12:15 NawJO it's not too different, but every right is changed to left, and every left is  changed to right
12:15 NawJO like margin-left to margin-right, float:left to float: right
12:15 miker ah! I see. just went to the test site.
12:15 NawJO http://104.251.212.186/eg/opac/home
12:16 miker very cool
12:16 Bmagic bshum: I think this proves it
14:29 NawJO it's time for me to go offline. Have a good time :)
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15:03 berick @tea my-belly
15:03 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Wild Snow Sprout Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to my-belly (http://ratetea.com/tea/wild-tea​-qi/wild-snow-sprout-tea/6447/)
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10:34 sam_l Staff client, and thank you!
10:36 sam_l rhamby++
10:37 sam_l One of our branches just got new computers, and we wanted to give correct instructions to IT before they went to set them up.
10:42 csharp sam_l: from our scant testing, Windows 10 works fine
10:44 Dyrcona It works fine on our Windows 10 thin clients.
10:45 csharp I would actually predict better performance based on everything I know about Windows 10 (which isn't a whole lot)
10:49 sam_l Thanks. I passed the info on.
14:52 kmlussier phasefx: Was Eva planning to attend too? I see her name is on the agenda.
14:53 phasefx kmlussier: I hadn't heard from her
14:54 Nawjo Kmlussier, Great!
14:54 bshum Like are the records primarily in english, but they have translated arabic strings for things like title, etc.
14:54 bshum I've seen that before for other language records like chinese, etc.
14:55 bshum I'd love to get some sample records to append to Concerto for future testing, actually.... hmm....
14:55 Dyrcona Georgian records are quite pretty....
14:55 Dyrcona I can't read it, but the script is nice.
14:56 kmlussier OK, poll for scheduling the meeting next week is at http://doodle.com/poll/esxgzfum2cwkbv7v
15:02 bshum I've been thinking about the RTL vs. LTR issues lately
15:02 bshum I'd love to see the stylesheet this was created with
15:02 kmlussier That's interesting. So the RTL stylesheet isn't dependent on the locale that's selected? I see everything goes RTL when French is selected.
15:02 Nawjo actually, I'm not familiar with EG yet. I'm trying to apply Arabic translation, then I'll add some testing data .
15:02 bshum It's probably forced
15:03 Nawjo yes exactly ! Stylesheets must change according to locale , but I couldnt achieve that
15:03 bshum I've been thinking about how to design some variable that would detect which direction based on the chosen language and apply appropriately
16:08 Nawjo I'm not that one :D haha
16:09 Dyrcona :)
16:51 Nawjo bshum I've just sent the styles to your mail :)
16:51 bshum Nawjo: Cool, look forward to playing with that more in the coming days
16:52 bshum I'll send you what I can put together to try new RTL variable detecting when I get a test server put together to try things out
16:53 Nawjo that's good :)
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16:57 bshum Nawjo++ # welcome and thanks for sharing, look forward to working with you more on this
16:58 Nawjo thank you bshum :)
16:59 kmlussier Nawjo++ # thanks for starting the conversation on this!
16:59 kmlussier bshum++ # For diving in further.
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17:02 Nawjo I can't wait till I see our libraries using Arabic Evergreen ILS:) Thank you for your help and support. Your team is friendly and nice, nice to talk to you all :)
17:02 vlewis kmlussier  # I'm working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1522644  webclient: Transfer title holds issues  So you think I should move or remove the button?
17:02 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1522644 in Evergreen "webclient: Transfer title holds issues" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Victoria Lewis (sykeslewis)
17:04 kmlussier vlewis: Personally, I think we should remove it. Or maybe comment it out?
17:04 kmlussier That way, if somebody really wants to use it, they could easily reinstate it.
17:05 mmorgan That sounds like a good solution to me.
17:07 kmlussier vlewis: There were concerns when I tried to remove it from the xul client a while back, but now it's really easy to select all the holds and select the "transfer selected" option.
17:07 * kmlussier had hoped to test some of the new web client fixes today, but got caught up in a more tedious task. Sigh...
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17:09 vlewis I can comment it out.
17:11 kmlussier Better than my alert suggestion from last month - http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2016-11-29#i_277681

Results for 2017-01-03

00:13 chatter allah is doing
00:13 chatter sun is not doing allah is doing
00:13 chatter to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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12:38 berick JBoyer: upgrade went OK?
12:40 JBoyer Splendidly. From a 2.9 to 2.11 db in less than 10 minutes. (not counting the pingest, of course) Would have been even better had I not just overlaid 2M+ records and caused so much table bloat that I almost ran the volume out of space last night. :/
12:41 JBoyer Still working on mitigating that but things aren't dire anymore.
12:41 csharp JBoyer++
12:42 csharp JBoyer: 10 minutes!? my test runs have taken 2-3 hours
12:42 csharp 2.9.1 - 2.11.1
12:42 JBoyer Had we it to do over again, we probably wouldn't have made a lot of noise about the email receipt feature because no one realized it didn't work with the XUL client. Might have to see how hard it is to wedge in there later. :/
12:43 csharp (we're upgrading over MLK weekend)
12:44 JBoyer I had several thousand lines worth already in our db because I wrote them. ;) (Also, the reingest took bloody ages but I don't generally count that since you can spin services back up while that's running.)
12:45 csharp reingest (pingest.pl with 16 children, batches of 10K) took about 36 hours in my test run
12:47 JBoyer Oh, yes, and as far as our highly misaligned ccvm and ccaed tables, I cloned them from a fresh stock db and replaced everything with an id < 10000 pre-reingest. Now all of our translations line up and we won't have to special case every single new locale or es-ES update that comes along.
12:49 JBoyer csharp, if there's enough time before we "open" again I'll let pingest burn through 35 out of 40 cores. It still only hits a load of around 20 but I don't want to risk it getting too much closer to 40 in case things start taking more oomph than expected..
12:52 csharp hmm - we have 64 cores, so maybe I should up the child count
14:11 jeff well, the good news there might be that moving these two affected workstations to a newer client might help. i think they're still running a 2.7 build that works by virtue of a server-side symlink.
14:11 jeff (or it's not really the OS after all)
14:11 berick fwiw i'm not using a community build, i'm using a custom script that does pretty much the same thing
14:11 JBoyer I didn't see that either with my (admittedly limited) testing on my mac over the weekend. I also may not be packaging the latest "supported" version of XULRunner in my package, which one was included in the client that had the disappearing menubar?
14:14 jeff according to Contents/Frameworks/XUL.framework/Versions in each app bundle, the 2.7 and 2.10 apps i have handy are both 14.0.1
14:18 JBoyer I can't really check until almost 5 or 6, but I'm curious if a different version would have an effect on the transparent background problem even if it turns out this issue is something local.
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16:51 Dyrcona You're probably correct.
16:51 Dyrcona I'll have to look at it some more tomorrow.
16:51 Dyrcona I'm not having any issues, just comparing configurations across twenty some odd servers. :)
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15:35 Dyrcona And, I think I fixed two bugs with one branch! :)
15:37 JBoyer Good to hear someone's having some luck today. :)
16:25 miker JBoyer: iirc, email checkout receipts only happen in built-in selfcheck and the web client, not xul... but on my phone without code to check ATM
16:42 JBoyer miker, Looking over the specs finally that sounds more likely. If it works in the web client maybe we can use that as an incentive to get more testing done here.
16:43 JBoyer I must have assumed it was generic rather than based on interface
16:49 JBoyer The release notes are also a bit too vague to be helpful re: where this works.
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18:00 Dyrcona Just popping to say: It works! :)
18:02 Dyrcona Fixed 3 bugs in two branches.

Results for 2017-01-01

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12:58 Dyrcona Happy New Year, #evergreen!
12:59 * Dyrcona just requested a PAUSE id as my first act of the new year.
12:59 Dyrcona You'd probably think that I had one already.
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Results for 2016-12-31

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14:04 JBoyer Happy new year's Evergreen, see you on the other side of the sun and our upgrade.
14:14 rjackson_isl Jboyer++
14:15 Dyrcona JBoyer++
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16:52 mixo I have enabled autosuggestion of search, but suggestion appears only for English titles
16:57 mixo but I want to it to appear for russian too.
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09:38 jvwoolf Hi everybody! I'm trying to add a new page to our OPAC. It's working in test, but I have to sign in to view it. I've scoured the docs, but I can't figure out how to make it public. Any tips?
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09:46 Dyrcona jvwoolf: I think that's largely a function of where you put the file.
09:46 tsbere jvwoolf: You will need to edit the TPAC perl code to add your page before the auth check
10:57 jvwoolf OK, that's where I edited it.
10:58 Dyrcona And, that's what I thought....You'll want to make a copy of that file and make a diff of the changes or you'll lose them at the next upgrade.
10:58 Dyrcona If you run bricks, you'll need to update it on every brick, too.
10:59 jvwoolf Ahh. Gotcha.
10:59 jvwoolf I'm only doing this in test at the moment.
10:59 Dyrcona OK, but for production, I'd recommend doing as tsbere suggests and making the change in the source and then copying the final version into place.
11:00 Dyrcona Git really helps with managing little changes like this, too.
11:02 jvwoolf I've got it now. Thank you.
14:35 miker I'll see if I can find a minute to look a that later today
14:48 miker _bott_: I think http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/he​ads/user/miker/aclg-cdbi-for-badges will help you...
14:52 _bott_ ah, makes sense.  I'll give it a whirl.
16:00 mmorgan I'm looking at the 2.11 SIP feature that treats location as workstation. I'm not getting it to work on our test system.
16:01 mmorgan I can make connections and perform transactions, but the location isn't being recognized as the workstation.
16:01 mmorgan Any ideas?
16:03 mmorgan Also tried adding the location_code to the config file for the staff user and that's not working either.
16:05 tsbere mmorgan: Just to be sure, did you make sure that both Evergreen and SIPServer are up to date?
16:09 mmorgan Yes, I checked Sip.pm and SIPServer.pm, both are up to date.
16:11 tsbere and you either defined client_location_code as "true" for the institution block (passing in a valid workstation name in the login step) or location_code to a valid workstation name?
16:40 mmorgan Hmm. Still no luck. Will need to revisit this tomorrow
16:41 mmorgan tsbere++
16:41 mmorgan Thanks for the suggestions.
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11:43 pinesol_green berick: unknown tag 100b
11:44 berick @marc 100 b
12:12 berick guessing that's a side-effect of using the same data for bib-2-auth and auth-2-auth maps
12:31 berick ... and multiple bib fields
12:34 * berick ponders the implications of synchronizing authority_control_fields.pl with authority control sets over a bowl of holiday gruel.
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Results for 2016-12-25

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14:03 * tsbere goes and looks, finding Dyrcona's description to be good enough
14:04 tsbere I considered responding with something like "Well, that depends. I can describe how to make it work in any of the ways described". <_<
14:05 Dyrcona Yes....I deleted a paragraph or two about seeing me at the conference for the gory details, and about waking up in the middle of the night screaming, "Cthulh Ftaghn!" if you try to get fancy. :)
14:06 * tsbere came up with a few very convoluted setups for testing purposes at one point
14:07 tsbere Including one "apply this rule to this user group, but not to the child group" that depended on circ fallthrough, the limits sets *not* having fallthrough, and a couple other things
14:08 Dyrcona Yeah, I didn't want to go there, though I didn't think about the possibility of different limits for different user groups when writing the email.
14:09 tsbere Basically I went for "what is the most convoluted thing I think this can do based on the documentation I just made for it?" and then tried to make it work. And did. ;)
14:10 Dyrcona I mean, you could add a matchpoint so that one library's checkout limit applies while the other's circ rules apply, but why would you do that?
14:10 Dyrcona Heh.
14:10 Dyrcona Sometimes, it is good to test the limits.
14:13 JBoyer tsbere, Dyrcona, Am I remembering correctly that one of you had a query that would look at config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and somehow display the weights that each row would result in? I'm - considering - something for the conference and that would be a big help.
14:14 tsbere I think we have a couple of things that could do that
14:14 Dyrcona JBoyer: It even produces an XLSX workbook!
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