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Results for 2016-08-24

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08:13 JBoyer The rest were lost in the great desktop reimage of '16. Now they're mostly bugs I have a branch for myself.
08:15 JBoyer bug 1593834 is fairly low impact and will end the scourge of Android email clients assuming our mail is sent from the beginning of unix time.
08:15 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1593834 in Evergreen "Date header not set in default A/T email templates" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1593834
08:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP 1306666: Abort Transit Only Change Copy Status if In Transit - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cfe5110>
08:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP 1306666: Add Perl tests for new behavior. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5f1362f>
08:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1306666: Rename test file - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d3e3f3b>
08:15 JBoyer (I was hesitant to set the milestone to anything but 2.next because I thought the RMs were doing that.)
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08:27 miker JBoyer: I'd call that a bug fix, fwiw, but, I'm 'bout to merge it to master and 2.10
08:27 kmlussier I would like to advocate for bug 1612274 if somebody wants to look at it.
08:27 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1612274 in Evergreen "Improvements to My Account Holds Screens" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612274
08:31 kmlussier I also wondered what the likelihood is of bug 1596595 getting in. I'm not in a position to test it myself since I would want to use a test system with production data, but we have a lot of interest in seeing faster holds targeting.
08:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1596595 in Evergreen "Hold targeter features and refactoring" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1596595
08:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Boyer] LP1593834: Add Date Header to A/T Email Examples - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=780f40a>
08:33 JBoyer miker, I suppose it's a seed data bug fix, the real benefit for existing installations is the brief documentation (if they don't follow LP).
09:19 Dyrcona I didn't look to see if we explicitly enable it, or the package is doing it, now.
09:19 kmlussier miker: Yes, I have time now.
09:19 miker kmlussier: cool. I'll push those bug fixes, then. thanks!
09:21 * Dyrcona will do his best to test the tz branch today, but time is not on his side.
09:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1614807: Fix Circ History table header display on small screens - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4c16071>
09:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1614807: Holds history should look like other My Account screens - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4e1ab37>
09:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1614807: Fix spacing issues in responsive design for My Account screens - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f414ddd>
10:28 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1612274: Release notes for improved holds interfaces - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=36f3313>
10:29 miker dbwells: re bug 1315552, is http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Everg​reen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/dbwells​/lp1315552_fix_duplicates_in_ranked_volumes the correct branch still?
10:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1315552 in Evergreen "Duplicate initial search results where copy circ lib/call number owning lib are different" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1315552
10:34 berick just updated to master.., upgrade/0990.data.copy-count-badge.sql not happy.  could be my janky test db..
10:34 berick ERROR:  null value in column "id" violates not-null constraint
10:34 berick DETAIL:  Failing row contains (null, Copy Count, null, rating.copy_count, f, f, t).
10:39 berick maybe id should be a SERIAL?
10:39 berick in rating.popularity_parameter
10:40 * berick has not been following that branch closely
10:49 kmlussier Oof. I guess I didn't test the upgrade script on that one.
10:49 miker berick: I'll fix it. it needs to be a pinned ID
10:50 * berick nods
10:51 miker pushed
10:51 miker berick: thanks for testing!
10:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Correct upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=58fc8f0>
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11:07 Stompro Does anyone know off the top of their heads if meta holds not showing up in catalog hold counts is expected behavior?  I tried to find a bug report on that, to see if anyone had suggested changes in that area, but didn't find anything.  Is that configurable?
12:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Stamping upgrade script for ranked-volumes update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=51759b2>
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12:10 miker berick: I've signed off your commits to the is_available branch ... want to look at the branch one last time, or are you happy with it?
12:10 berick miker: i'm happy with it.  did a few more tests this a.m.
12:11 berick gracias
12:12 miker kk
12:12 berick miker: did you see the comment on bug #1588948 I added just before you posted your code?
12:12 miker grabbing 0992
12:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1588948 in Evergreen "Authority update propagation should update bib record editor and edit_date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1588948
12:14 miker berick: update_headings_tgr is a BEFORE trigger, and aaa_auth_ingest_or_delete is an AFTER, so they run in the right order already
12:14 berick miker: oh!  nevermind then
12:14 berick thanks
12:15 berick i'll test that branch
12:15 miker (I had the same thought, so doublechecked when looking for the best place to insert the check)
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12:22 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 7 commits to Evergreen...
12:36 miker ok, thanks.  I'm calling it a feature for backporting purposes, then :)
12:38 miker grabbing 0993
12:42 csharp miker: if my branch for bug 1612752 gets accepted, it would theoretically be possible to "unwrap" the status on canceled transit checkin too, right?
12:42 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1612752 in Evergreen "Feature Request: Cancel Transits, Don't Delete Them" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612752 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
12:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1570909 User activity transient default - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b1f4d59>
12:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1570909 User activity purge function - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ea8b2ae>
12:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1570909 User activity purge pgtap test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fc5b3ec>
12:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1570909 User activity purge release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cfad22b>
12:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Stamping upgrade script for transient usr_activity - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=95ea3d5>
12:43 miker csharp: not sure I follow.  If an item got into Canceled Transit, and then transited (was scanned somewhere) the transit home would carry the Canceled Transit status and the copy would end up with that until a user did something about that ... is that what you mean?
12:44 miker (that's the case regardless of whether we restrict the situations we make use of Canceled Transit, though)
12:45 miker ah, you mean "the data still exists because it's on a closed transit"
12:59 csharp I was trying to keep the features separate in case one didn't get accepted, the other still had a chance
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13:00 miker I'm concerned that we'd be trading confusion for (effectively, to the user) lost data, unless we have something that pulls the old status from the canceled transit and uses that for any /new/ transit. which, I think, would fix the issue for remote aborts that re-transit.
13:00 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 6 commits to Evergreen...
13:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1588948 Authority propagation PGTAP test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7605ed8>
13:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1588948 Release notes (auth prop. bib edit[or|_date]) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8e95974>
13:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1588948 Auth propagate bib meta on change only - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d61a652>
13:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1588948: Only attempt a bib update if the heading changes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=84bed71>
13:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Stamping upgrade script for authority edit changes and propagation improvement - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1215938>
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13:34 berick kmlussier: thanks for testing bug #1497335.  investingating now...
13:34 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1497335 in Evergreen "Display aged circulations for copies (was: "virtually aged circulations")" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497335
13:35 * berick will also rebase
13:36 kmlussier berick: Thanks!
13:36 kmlussier Unfortunately, I can't test it in the web client at the moment.
13:37 csharp miker: I'm looking to change my canceled transit status branch (bug 1613374) so that it checks the stored copy status... how much time do I have before you call the beta done? :-)
13:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1613374 in Evergreen "Feature Request: "Canceled Transit" Item Status" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613374 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
13:39 miker csharp: commit by EOB today, or whenever level3 decides to stop having problems, whichever comes later ;)

Results for 2016-08-23

09:47 csharp heh
09:55 berick kmlussier: no backsies
09:55 kmlussier berick: Ha ha. I guess I should get working then!
10:39 * mmorgan always seems to find more bugs when testing bugs.
10:39 bshum Testing bugs or testing bug fixes?   :P
10:40 Dyrcona Both! :)
10:40 mmorgan :)
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12:17 csharp mmorgan: I think it's good for now - I was just about to look into creating a perl test for the branch - I'll prolly need help :-)
12:23 csharp Dyrcona: I think I remember you mentioning that you might genericize your live_t for bug 1306666 for general transit testing - looking at it now, I tend to agree
12:23 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1306666 in Evergreen 2.9 "When Aborting a Transit, items should not automatically get a status change." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1306666
12:23 Dyrcona csharp: Part of the reason it is so long is that this feature had no tests.
12:24 csharp right, I can see that
12:24 Dyrcona It needs to be in live_t because it requires concerto for copies, patrons, etc.
12:24 bshum 100.00% spanish translation; 0 strings remaining.  Sweet!  (at least till we do the next POT sync up from all the stuff that went into master)
12:24 Dyrcona I got hung up getting the copy to transit again after the hold transit was aborted by the receiving library.
12:25 csharp anahi++
12:26 Dyrcona I think my vm is presently rigged for the timezone branches, so I'll need to reinstall the code for that branch to continue working on it.
12:26 Dyrcona Anyway, csharp, if you want help with Perl tests, let me know.
12:27 jeff Dyrcona: did you determine what your TZ issues were the other day?
12:27 csharp Dyrcona++ # thanks
12:28 mmorgan csharp: Thanks. It's looking good to me so far.
12:30 Dyrcona I think I'll build a fresh vm and install everything again.
12:30 Dyrcona But that's for later. I have to go, now.
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12:59 jeff Dyrcona: when you get back... in your testing were you seeing holds being created hours in the past / future, or were you just seeing action.hold_request.request_time displayed with the server TZ of +00?
12:59 jeff Dyrcona: because the latter should be fine...
13:07 jeff Dyrcona: holds might not be the best thing to test with.
13:07 jeff but that does open the question of "how should this be tested". :-)
13:08 jeff I don't think that anything in 1485374 adds support to xul or web staff clients to pass timezone to the server.
13:12 jeff oh, actually... webstaff is probably covered by the changes in 1485371, the opensrf companion to that bug.
13:12 csharp oooh - perl tests go deep
13:13 * csharp stares in awe at https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::More
13:15 csharp Dyrcona: since your test is almost exactly what I need, any objections about me using it outright and modifying where necessary?
13:15 csharp seems like we would benefit from having some solid boilerplate files for this kind of thing
13:16 csharp or a set of custom functions (e.g., create a workstation at a branch/some branches)
13:18 csharp ah - OpenILS/Utils/TestUtils.pm has that stated purpose at the top of the file :-)
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14:56 tspindler Dyrcona: running apt-install and apt-update worked and ./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf executed
16:00 Dyrcona :)
16:02 Dyrcona One draw back of the way that I build vms for Xenial is that I have to login with virt-viewer or the other console to reconfigure the network interface.
16:03 Dyrcona All right, I'll start over on the timezone branch with everything clean.
16:14 jeff Dyrcona: did you see my earlier comments about that, and asking what exactly was looking incorrect in your test?
16:15 Dyrcona Yes, did you see my answers?
16:15 Dyrcona The server on a vm is UTC. The client, my laptop, is EDT.
16:15 * jeff scrolls up for answers
16:16 Dyrcona I thought when I placed a hold from the OPAC, it would get the EDT timezone, but the database shows UTC.
16:16 Dyrcona So, maybe I misunderstand the intent, or I had something wrong.
16:16 Dyrcona That's why I'm going with a clean install on a clean VM, to make sure there's no crud interfering.
16:16 jeff 09:59:09 < jeff> Dyrcona: when you get back... in your testing were you seeing holds being created hours in the past / future, or were you just seeing action.hold_request.request_time displayed with the server TZ of +00?
16:17 Dyrcona I missed that one. :)
16:17 jeff heh.
16:17 Dyrcona The timestamp on the hold was good, just UTC, not EDT.
16:17 Dyrcona Meaning, it was four hours in the future.
16:17 Dyrcona Right.
16:18 Dyrcona I'll reread the bug more carefully and check the code.
16:18 jeff 10:07:07 < jeff> Dyrcona: holds might not be the best thing to test with.
16:18 jeff 10:07:27 < jeff> but that does open the question of "how should this be tested". :-)
16:18 Dyrcona I'm going to install opensrf master and collab/miker/lp1485374-always-use-client-tz-rebase
16:18 Dyrcona Yep.
16:19 Dyrcona I'll take a deeper look this time.
16:26 jeff Dyrcona: the important part is that they be the correct value... which i'm pretty sure will be the case for a hold request with and without the timestamp support.
16:26 jeff i've been looking at it, but don't want to be the only one looking at it. :-)
16:27 Dyrcona So, I should try something like changing a due date where there are reports of times being wrong?
16:27 jeff so, my comment about holds might not be the best thing to test with.
16:27 * jeff nods
16:27 Dyrcona Right.
16:27 jeff pretty sure that will be a better before/after test.
16:27 Dyrcona Thanks. I'll do that, also.
16:28 jeff there are other things that will be interesting (nothing new), like dob.
16:28 Dyrcona Guess I'll build a xul client and the browser staff client.
16:28 jeff i don't know if the xul client will get benefit of timezones.
16:28 Dyrcona Well then, I'll skip it.
16:28 Dyrcona I haven't been building xul clients for the vms on my laptop.
16:29 jeff web staff client gets it by nature of opensrf.js having support added in the OpenSRF bug (code in master), but I don't think (haven't looked/tested) that benefits the XUL client.
16:29 jeff some embedded interfaces might get it.
16:29 Dyrcona It probably doesn't.
16:29 Dyrcona Maybe a dojo interface or two, yeah.
16:34 Dyrcona Hmm. It might be interesting to get opensrf.js working with node... Then you could write command code for Evergreen in JavaScript.

Results for 2016-08-22

09:09 csharp ah
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09:10 * tsbere is also working on "bulk cleanup" commands, such as standardizing states to their uppercase abbreviations. Or at least the most common ones in our DB.
09:10 * csharp finally buckles down to test Dyrcona's and miker's fix to bug 1306666 since it's probably a dependency for his fix to bug 1613374
09:10 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1306666 in Evergreen 2.9 "When Aborting a Transit, items should not automatically get a status change." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1306666
09:10 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1613374 in Evergreen "Feature Request: "Canceled Transit" Item Status" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613374 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
09:13 * tsbere isn't sure if he should include misspellings of states in his corrections <_<

Results for 2016-08-20

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12:51 Dyrcona Not until after I changed the capture time on the hold, which puzzles me.
12:54 Dyrcona I'll do some more experimentation later. I'd like to see the real differences in what's going on for myself.
12:54 miker the change that let it work was the hold getting retargeted
12:55 miker after the copy became available or equivalent
12:59 miker if the problem to solve is "don't break circs" then the first "if" test in my branch is enough. if the problem is "staff are confused" the the status dance is needed. but the status dance kills immediate recapture via op-capture because the hold gets retargeted after the copy becomes untargetable
13:01 miker if we add the canceled-transit status, per csharp, and allow it to be holdable, op-capture will work as before
13:01 miker on top of my branch, I mean
13:03 miker I think we'll really want berick's is_available branch, too, and make the new status true for that flag
13:03 miker otherwise we'll get warnings at the eventual hold dest
13:03 Dyrcona Hmm. What you're saying makes sense, but I'm not sure that it completely supports what I think I saw. :)
13:04 Dyrcona I'll do some looking later.
13:04 miker k
13:45 Dyrcona Missing comma on line 667 of oils_auth.c.
13:46 miker huh. must have missed that in a conflict on rebase. soory :)
13:47 Dyrcona NP.
14:28 Dyrcona Hmm. I'm not really certain how to test that branch. I tried placing holds from the OPAC, but the times are in UTC.
14:29 Dyrcona I tried a SetENV TZ America/New_York in the Apache config for the /opac location and restarted, but that didn't seem to do anything either.
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15:10 csharp_ I was just going to finally comment out the PINES reporting views by default in fm_IDL.xml, but I can see that other non-PINES tables have been added to the PINES section

Results for 2016-08-18

09:31 * csharp is looking now
09:32 csharp I would bet the dependencies go deep if we look hard enough - an isolated bug report might be the tip of an iceberg
09:32 Dyrcona Yeah, they sometimes are.
09:35 Dyrcona I'll load 130666 on a personal vm and see if the perl tests I wrote still work. They may need to be changed or we may want to add one or two given miker's changes to the code.
09:36 Dyrcona If I'm not satisfied with that, then I might check if it's OK to use my old vm at MVLC with real life data.
09:42 Dyrcona csharp++ # It's fun trying to hit a moving target.
09:42 csharp heh
10:07 jeff i believe you can safely ignore that.
10:07 Dyrcona OK.
10:07 jeff something in the dependency chain is listing it as a nice-to-have.
10:08 Dyrcona miker: Looks like my xenial vm would be perferct for testing timezone stuff. It insists on being set to UTC and my laptop is presently EDT. :)
10:12 csharp @quote add < jeff> when i see "this branch needs a rebase" i hear it in a jack nicholson voice, every time.
10:12 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #157 added.
10:19 berick well now we all do
10:21 csharp Dyrcona++
10:21 * Dyrcona has a hard time hearing it in a Homer Simpson voice, but Sean Connery....
10:22 Dyrcona And, eg_db_config --load-all-sample is done.
10:26 Dyrcona Well, the tests did fail, but not exactly how I expected them to fail.
10:27 Dyrcona Failed test ''Got hold transit copy' isa 'Fieldmapper::action::hold_transit_copy''
10:27 Dyrcona Oh, wait. Failures started before that test. ;)
10:29 Dyrcona OK. Failures start at subtests of test 13, which is more or less where I might expect it.
10:29 * Dyrcona makes a collab branch based on miker's changes.
10:30 Dyrcona Test 14, rather.
10:30 * Dyrcona can't read today, apparently.
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10:52 * miker tests new tz branch...
10:59 * Dyrcona "numbers" the tests in the test script.
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11:06 Dyrcona I think I'm going to remove the lp number from the test file, because csharp will need to alter the tests for the new copy status branch.
11:07 Dyrcona Eh, maybe I'll leave it for now and we can sort it out later.
11:07 JBoyer "rm it all and let the fs sort it out."
11:10 miker Dyrcona: updated TZ branch for evergreen located at http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Eve​rgreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/m​iker/lp1485374-always-use-client-tz-rebase
11:10 Dyrcona miker++ # I'll take a look after working on these tests.
11:25 csharp @quote add < JBoyer> "rm it all and let the fs sort it out."
11:25 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #158 added.
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11:58 Dyrcona It has been checked in twice at the home library and doesn't fill the hold again after either one.
11:59 berick should name the canceled transit copy status "stranded" or "stuck at O'Hare"
11:59 mmorgan Even after you changed it to available?
11:59 Dyrcona I haven't tried that yet. I have to reload concerto after each failed test run.
12:00 Dyrcona I'm first going to verify the copy status in the tests after each step.
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12:17 miker in case anyone was talking in my direction
12:18 miker yeah, quassel core is acting up a lot recently...
12:23 bshum Poor quasselcore :(
12:23 Dyrcona I was just speaking in general how holds appear to be trapping differently for me in concerto today and it's more or less the same branch when the tests all passed before.
12:23 Dyrcona I'm trying tricks to see what I need to do.
12:24 Dyrcona A script to stop services, reload concerto into the db, and start services again has come in real handy.
12:25 tsbere Dyrcona: Heh, I have a bash alias to do that for me on my dev machine. :D
12:26 * dbs wonders if Dyrcona is finding out why our holds aren't getting trapped at checkin -- this is the TZ testing?
12:28 Dyrcona dbs: It could be, but I'm doing it all on the server where everything is UTC.
12:29 Dyrcona Maybe it was EDT last time.... I believe I did make a new VM since then.
12:29 Dyrcona It traps the first time, but after aborting the transit and checking the copy in again, it's not trapping.

Results for 2016-08-17

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10:11 * mmorgan has always been curious about this: What is the purpose of the script_test field in config.circ_matrix_matchpoint?
10:12 berick mmorgan: it does nothing today.  the hope was to support optional/additional script-based tests, to cover logic that's not supported directly in the circ matrix.
10:13 berick similar to the old-school circ rules, which were script based and quite powerful IF you knew what you were doing
10:13 tsbere I was once going to code that in when I re-wrote things (probably as a "call this DB function" instead though) but I am not likely to re-write circ stuff anytime soon. If ever.
10:14 mmorgan Ah. I was wondering if it was a vestige of the past, or a placeholder for the future. A little bit of both, I guess!
10:20 jeff plv8!
10:30 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1545115
10:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1545115 in Evergreen "config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and config.hold_matrix_matchpoint need a description field" [Wishlist,New]
10:31 bshum Still wip by rhamby, but if we're all thinking about touching the matrix tables
10:32 rhamby That was a bit while bach bshum but at that time it tested fine in master for me but I don't think anyone else test drove it.
10:32 rhamby back even.  Though some bach would make good listening right now.
10:34 rhamby jeff: I thought about making a patch to change all circ matrix rules match strange unicode and require people to use a 1956 new york phone book as a key to decrypt it but never got around to it
10:36 jeff JBoyer: joking aside, what did you have in mind for applying the new feature?
10:38 tsbere JBoyer: I personally think you are going to have issues there, but I have ideas for how to implement. But I suspect other things already there would be better choices. <_<
10:38 JBoyer jeff, Currently we have multiple circ mods like so: dvd, dvd new, dvd r-rated, dvd r-rated new, and so on. I want to remove the new-ness and r-rated-ness and make them stat cats that can just be applied to a 'dvd' circ mod'd item.
17:05 kmlussier miker: The webclient code you've been merging - does that make it on to webby?
17:05 miker kmlussier: it can, but it's not there yet
17:06 miker kmlussier: I'll push it out now
17:06 kmlussier miker: Thanks!
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17:07 kmlussier Actually, I guess I wasn't so much asking about the merged code as the code that's being added to the sprint 3 branch. Because the merge code doesn't need testing, does it?
17:07 * miker tells bower to do its thing
17:08 miker kmlussier: it doesn't hurt for more eyes to be on it
17:08 kmlussier true enough
17:25 jeff yeah.
17:25 jeff got it. :-)
17:27 hbrennan Sad that I'm debating whether to save $6/year per OPAC (we only have four total, too)
17:27 Stompro Has anyone had any issues with the circ history sorting?  I cannot get it to work on our test system.  I have 226 items in my history, and that seems to be too much for it to handle.
17:28 hbrennan jeff++ I'll check out Web Converger after lunch
17:40 jeffdavis Stompro: that rings a bell, but I can't recall any details or find a record of the problem in our ticketing system
17:40 jeffdavis </unhelpful>

Results for 2016-08-16

15:03 Dyrcona "Hey, there, Cthulhu. What's it like in Deep R'lyeh?"
15:03 Dyrcona Yeah, what berick and jeff are saying rings a bell or two.
15:04 Dyrcona IIRC, MVLC is piping to syslog from Apache because of that.
15:05 Stompro Question about 2.10.5 placing holds on parts.  The Parts dropdown now says "- All Parts -" by default.  I had a staff member that was testing it out say "Awsome, I can request all parts at once, so I don't have to place multiple holds to get one of each part".  But All Parts actually means Any Part, right?
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15:05 berick Stompro: right, any part
15:05 berick it's still just 1 hold

Results for 2016-08-15

11:03 Dyrcona Bmagic: That should be fine.
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11:04 Bmagic on my test machine, that line is present and I could launch the sip server and login to it, but I didnt test anything else
11:24 jeff Bmagic: can you sum up what you're trying to do/fix?
11:24 Bmagic it started with me installing SIPServer on xenial
11:24 Bmagic turns out UNIVERSAL module is depricated in perl 5.22 and beyond
14:55 Dyrcona I think I would trust the copy status over the existence of a transit.
14:55 Dyrcona Which is where I was coming from, only change the copy status if the copy status is in transit.
14:56 Dyrcona A new status for canceled transit is fine with me.
14:59 * csharp runs off to test his branch before referring to it in the original bug thread
15:00 * mmorgan saw bug 1612754 and overlooked the one about the status
15:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1612754 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "package openssh-client 1:7.2p2-4ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package openssh-client is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612754
15:00 csharp jeff: OPERATION KRYPTONITE?
15:07 mmorgan I'm warming up to the idea of a new status for cancelled transits
15:09 Dyrcona It complicates things a bit. It will need to be added to relevant lists of what different statuses to look for in certain situations and so on.
15:10 Dyrcona Some parts of the code only look for copies with certain statuses, and those places will need to be examined to determine if they should look at this new status as well.
15:10 csharp Dyrcona: right - I was wondering about that
15:10 csharp so my branch is not complete since I haven't considered that yet
15:12 csharp also, I will definitely need guidance on writing perl tests for my changes, but not today
15:13 mmorgan I would think it could avoid a lot of confusion for the end user, though.
15:13 csharp well, the reason I went that direction (completely unaware of the discussion on the older bug) was that it's a clear signal to staff what happened to their item
15:14 csharp it feels kind of unsubtle, but it may be a good solution

Results for 2016-08-12

11:25 krvmga :)
11:26 JBoyer dbs, Ah, I see. I wasn't sure if you had a file full of records that needed changed or if they were indb, etc.
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11:40 * tsbere hates being asked to log dive with no indication as to how far back he may need to look
11:56 tsbere gmcharlt: Any chance you can take a quick look at my marc-perl pullrequest changes and let me know if you think they may cause significant issues? I want a second opinion at least before I throw it in our production system for a real world test.
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12:01 gmcharlt tsbere: gut reaction - they're unlikely to cause significant issues, and I'll likely merge it soon after writing some test cases
12:02 gmcharlt my only quibble at the moment is whether to add a flag to specify a strict input mode that squawks if \035 is found inside a record, as there's no (known-to-me) character encoding for MARC records where that would be permissible
12:04 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I've seen a number of MARC records in the wild that do not use valid character encodings for MARC, and sometimes different fields in the same record have different encodings.
12:04 Dyrcona But, I'm going to lunch, so.... ;)
12:04 gmcharlt Dyrcona: well yes :)
17:03 kmlussier This would be another good thing to document someday.
17:03 Bmagic perl 5.22 is default. SIPServer uses UNIVERSAL which complains upon install in cpan
17:04 hbrennan kmlussier++
17:05 kmlussier hbrennan: OK, so what you are using is a library setting to prevent renewals for copies when there are holds on its record. Rather than using the library setting, you can configure your policies to prevent the renewals in a more sophisticated way.
17:05 kmlussier hbrennan: The mailing list link is here http://georgialibraries.markma​il.org/thread/njevrzhizdugshwd
17:05 kmlussier hbrennan: I mention a bug in that thread, but that bug has since been fixed. I don't know if any of our sites are using it, but, in my testing, the ratios work fairly well now.
17:06 Dyrcona Bmagic: The require UNIVERSAL::require or the UNIVERSAL::can line?
17:06 Bmagic use UNIVERSAL qw(can);
17:07 Bmagic package Sip::MsgType;
17:37 kmlussier Anyway, time to take my daughter out for dinner. That is, if I want to brave the thunderstorm.
17:37 kmlussier Have a nice weekend to everyone who's still here!
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18:42 bshum gmcharlt: FYI, I started testing your branch for moving mod_perl over from OpenSRF to Evergreen, but still encounter a few issues
18:42 bshum Specifically, I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1585041 is still needed for Jessie
18:42 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1585041 in OpenSRF "Fix OpenSRF debian_sys_config order for Debian" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
18:44 bshum Or hmm
18:46 bshum Nope, yep, we still need to rearrange things for Jessie to install pre-reqs right

Results for 2016-08-11

10:01 * berick waves all around
10:02 Bmagic gooood mornin'
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10:14 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1612054: unbreak test case now that SSN is no longer an ID type - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8adf1fe>
10:18 bshum gmcharlt++
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10:43 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
12:47 dbs might be dirty data on our side, I haven't checked to see if the authority record was MARC8 encoded or something like that (although it displays cleanly...)
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14:00 kmlussier csharp: I noticed you set bug 1413352 to high. If you would like, I could load berick's patch on a Sandbox so that one of your acq people could test it and sign off on it.
14:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1413352 in Evergreen 2.9 "New Brief Record estimated price does not populate" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1413352
14:20 csharp kmlussier: just did it - I was making the 2.9 branch consistent with the original report ;-)
14:20 csharp I see that the fix is working

Results for 2016-08-10

15:27 kmlussier For the alpha release, should a message go out on the list so that people know about it?
15:27 miker kmlussier: it should have, and that's on me
15:28 miker I can send one out
15:28 kmlussier miker: OK, I'll add that as an action item.
15:28 kmlussier miker: Also, we'll be looking at the sprint 3 branch here, but I don't know how much testing we can do before Wednesday. I've already used some of the admin interfaces.
15:29 kmlussier #action miker to send message to e-mail list announcing alpha release.
15:30 miker re merging webclient, I'm happy with waiting a bit ... but, as always, it's preproduction.  we will be backporting significant bug fixes, though, as agreed to before
15:30 miker opinions on timing?
15:30 dbs #info dbs is Dan Scott, Laurentian University
15:31 miker I don't believe there are many. maybe 1 or 2? none that I'm positive do use it
15:31 kmlussier I think it affects the decision on whether we merge post-beta. If people are using it in production, there may be a higher chance of breakage happening for them at .0 release time.
15:31 Dyrcona I'd prefer sprint3 going in at/before the beta rather than after.
15:31 JBoyer I'd think the sooner the better provided all of the existing interfaces are still in the XUL client. If someone is using a pre-pro client in production, they should be paying enough attention to hit the testing rather hard on this update.
15:32 miker JBoyer: they do exist
15:32 gmcharlt we could send an olly-olly-oxen-free to open-ils-general
15:33 kmlussier Looks like we just lost most of the ESI crew
15:34 miker gmcharlt: we can, though I'm inclined to vote with Dyrcona and JBoyer ... and dbwells :)
15:34 JBoyer Plus there's the fact that alphas are generally unstable, now's the best time to find where the problems lie.
15:34 miker dbwells: it's exceedingly low (though not non-zero)
15:34 gmcharlt miker: yeah, I was thinking more in terms of identifying the folks who then get asked to TEST, TEST, and MOAR TEST :)
15:34 kmlussier I'm inclined to agree that we should merge before beta. I can commit to putting some testing in by next week.
15:35 miker gmcharlt: +1
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15:35 gmcharlt but yeah, I'm also in favor in merging before beta
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15:35 kmlussier Who would like to volunteer to send a message out to the list to get testers?
15:36 miker I'll do it while I announce alpha
15:37 kmlussier #action miker to send message to list seeking help to test web client sprint 3
15:37 kmlussier Any other updates for 2.11? Other areas where help is needed?
15:37 miker second question: we have 5 weeks between beta and GA ... would anyone like to steal a week from RC and make it 4, giving us 2 more weeks until beta?
15:38 JBoyer +1
15:38 miker reason being: folks (including me) have been focusing on bug fix branches recently

Results for 2016-08-09

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10:53 dbs Does the new password security approach take the password passed in for auth_proxy (e.g. LDAP) and store the salted hashed version of that in the actor.passwd table?
10:59 * tsbere has found 3 different ways to *not* modify USMARC.pm, all of which he figured out before he finished making the changes
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11:42 * tsbere hopes he isn't missing something in his testing now that he has code he thinks may work
11:58 tsbere gmcharlt: I have barely tested it, and it is lunchtime so I am off to get lunch. But if you want to see my fix attempt: https://github.com/tsbere/marc-perl/commit​/1b46cde3c76cd1dc6943010de98ac6d172d97b1c
12:03 miker grabbing 0985
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12:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1588543: Speed up record attribute ingest - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cf3bd14>
12:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1588543: further speed up record attribute ingest - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6cc1d1e>
12:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1588543: tests for verifying correct generated of record attributes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f668201>
12:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1588543: schema update script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=982472f>
12:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Stamping upgrade for reingest speedup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4b5b791>
12:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Boyer] LP 1481441: Improve Hold Failure Messages - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=54e21a0>
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12:24 * tsbere wonders if he should be adding his name and adjusting years in the MARC::Record README file while he is making code changes, or if gmcharlt would take care of that later.
12:24 bshum miker: It occurs to me that the stuff we're pushing right now probably should get a milestone target of 2.11-beta (which has yet to be created).
15:33 remingtron Christineb: any idea if your docs video links have been clicked?
15:33 Christineb I will get click stats for next meeting
15:34 Christineb we only added the specific video links during our last upgrade (May)
15:35 yboston did we want to pick a particualr section to test out addign the links?
15:37 yboston we can decide later too
15:38 remingtron I guess I'd rather focus on making sure features from 2.10 and 2.11 are covered, and maybe try to add a video link while we're in there.
15:38 Christineb maybe the patron related videos?
15:38 Christineb remingtron++
15:55 sandbergja (and a few bits that would need to be written)
15:56 yboston one thign that is not a concer is that it looks liek the web client will not be “ready” in a couple of weeks, because it if was that would have an impact on the re-org
15:56 sandbergja and some functional requirements and some survey feedback
15:56 yboston we also have a test server that could be used for dispalying re-org experiments
15:59 yboston I would suggest that we again try another re-org specific meeting and/or a new email list thread
15:59 yboston thoguh of course that is soemthign you have done before
15:59 remingtron sandbergja: it wouldn't take much work to create a new root.txt just for that new book, generate the html, and go from there
15:59 remingtron yboston: does anyone else have access to the new DIG test server?
15:59 yboston Right now I think only Galen adn I have access.
16:00 yboston try reaching out to him for access, and of course tell him I can verify that we want to give you access
16:00 sandbergja Well, why don't we get a new root.txt file onto that server somehow, generate a sysadmin-from-the-staff-client manual using our ToC, and use that to generate some excitement
16:02 sandbergja :-P
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16:03 remingtron yboston: right, a working repo branch could work
16:03 yboston not sure how the DIG test serve is set up. I know it is pulling from our main Git repo a cuple of times a day
16:03 yboston I can email Galen
16:03 sandbergja Thanks, yboston!
16:03 yboston #action yboston will email Galen to give remingtron and sandbergja access to DIG test server
16:04 remingtron yboston: thanks!
16:04 yboston #link docs-testing.evergreen-ils.rog
16:05 remingtron yboston: typo, should be ".org"
16:05 yboston oops, copied it from an email, tis time not my fault :)
16:05 remingtron :)
16:05 yboston #link http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org
16:06 yboston anything else before we wrap up?
16:06 remingtron just a plea
16:06 yboston go ahead
16:07 remingtron if anyone has time, take a look at the 2.10 needs and let's try to document more things! thanks all!
16:25 kmlussier Justin__: Yes, that's one way to do it. In Evergreen, a volume is the call number record and then you add a copy. Sitka has some documentation for adding holdings - http://docs.sitka.bclibraries.ca/Sitka/cur​rent/html/add-holdings-title-records.html
16:25 kmlussier Justin__: If you have the holdings info in your MARC records, you can also import the copies along with the records.
16:27 kmlussier Justin__: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.10/_imp​orting_materials_in_the_staff_client.ht​ml#_staff_client_batch_record_imports has docs on how you would use holdings profiles to do so.
16:28 Justin__ I'll give that documentation a read.  I know I added a volume on one book to test.  It shows there's a volume, but copies is 0.  I assume I did something incorrectly.
16:28 Justin__ Unfortunately, our MARC records didn't have our holdings info.
16:29 Justin__ In most cases, we only have one of each book added to the catalog.  Is there a way to automate adding one copy for each item in the catalog?
16:29 kmlussier Justin__: It sounds like you added the volume without going to the next step to add a copy. There's a library setting that allows you to add both from the same screen, which our libraries find useful.

Results for 2016-08-08

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09:06 JBoyer Dyrcona, if you have some time to look over some basic NCIPServer changes I've pushed 2 working branches. The other change we're using is a bit specific so I haven't pushed it yet, but I'm hoping I'll have time to make it more generically useful.
09:07 JBoyer And mmorgan, if there's anyone that would like to try out a new NCIPServer branch that returns barcodes (when possible, not 100% of the time), and / or makes local ILS NCIP holds work just like any other hold, those branches should be stable enough to do some testing with.
09:08 Dyrcona JBoyer: I'll have a look. I've got some things to clear up this morning, first.
09:08 JBoyer (We will be testing all of that here, of course, but we only have 2 libraries set up with NCIP at the moment.)
09:09 JBoyer Dyrcona, there's no rush, just wanted to let you know. (There's not an LP project to post things to, is there?)
09:10 Dyrcona JBoyer: I don't think there is. S'pose someone (me?) could make one.
09:11 JBoyer I'll give it a shot since I've got 2-3 things to put in it already.

Results for 2016-08-05

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12:33 bshum Yay?
12:33 bshum That seems helpful
12:46 kmlussier Perhaps. I've only used Vandelay in testing situations, so it's hard for me to know how often people would want to create Match sets outside of Vandelay in real-world use.
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13:06 miker berick: you handy?
13:25 kmlussier Last call to fill out the poll for next week's dev meeting. http://doodle.com/poll/v9vdmicpgt3dgybd
13:47 berick gmcharlt: i can make the change if you're not already in there.  just let me know.
13:48 miker berick: the org tree is stored in the the session storage area...
13:49 berick miker: ahh, forgot about that.  maybe the one case where it's useful
13:49 gmcharlt berick: go ahead, it will be a while before I can test it
13:49 berick i wasn't going to remove SessiontItem stuff, BTW, just thinking out loud
13:49 berick gmcharlt: k
13:49 miker hrm... chrome is acting up ... no ses cookie :(

Results for 2016-08-04

10:13 Dyrcona dbs: Thanks.
10:13 jeff Yes, you'd need a linux environment (either chroot or dual boot), both of which I believe require turning off the normal safeties first.
10:15 jeff Current options on a Chromebook include the web staff client, VNC/RDP using a Chrome app or HTML5 client like Guacamole, or the Citrix receiver with all of the infrastructure and licensing that that implies.
10:17 * tsbere has an idea to prevent novelist, in general, from "breaking" the staff client the way it appears to be.....but has to reinstall things on his dev machine to test
10:17 tsbere If it works I will throw it at Launchpad though
10:17 jeff Another option is the Amazon WorkSpaces client, in which you still pay a cost but the infrastructure and management of same is included. :-)
10:21 * dbs still holds out hope for webby
10:21 dbs gotta get through this database upgrade though first :/

Results for 2016-08-03

08:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1608711: Update schema.org property name from "seller" to "offeredBy" - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b55b3ca>
08:47 JBoyer dbs, indeed, it's great.
08:47 JBoyer Dyrcona++
08:52 bshum dbwells: I vaguely remember seeing something in IRC last week or earlier about 2.11 alpha cutting from you.  Curious if you guys noticed a lot of string change that would necessitate a POT sync for translations.  I saw some churn for the webstaff, but I don't get to peruse the files as often as I'd like anymore.
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08:53 bshum Either way, I'd recommend we do an i18n sync at some point.
08:54 bshum I'll put together a local test later to see how much stuff actually changed myself.
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15:58 JBoyer That figures. Thanks.
15:59 JBoyer At least there's (probably) nothing setup wrong in my NCIPServer config.
15:59 jeff that was fun when trying to debug incipit.
15:59 jeff "wait, the state server is sending you WHAT in that field?"
16:00 jeff "that's completely different from the value that they were sending us, which is completely different from the value that they were sending the original developers while testing, which is different from what's in the standard..."
16:02 JBoyer And I'm using mod_dumpio to be able to see them at all, which is really great for log size.
16:09 JBoyer and readability.
16:09 jeff do you have a dedicated endpoint so that you can at least be selective about that, or are you dumping all traffic on a live system?
16:10 JBoyer well, "live," it's a testing server but technically open to the world to see. Dumpio appears to be all or nothing though, I'd have preferred to only dump the NCIP traffic.
16:11 * jeff nods
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Results for 2016-08-02

13:38 bshum https://translations.launchpad​.net/evergreen/master/+lang/es  (tpac is done, whoot, whoot!)
13:38 bshum *has been done, just noticed the timestamp
13:38 mrpeters bshum: will do!
13:38 bshum I look forward to testing it out later :)
13:42 bshum From 36.88% to over 90.6% in 2 months.  Pretty, pretty!
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14:29 csharp ugh - reporter.classic_current_circ is creating bad and very long-running queries
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Results for 2016-08-01

14:13 bshum Or bad reasons
14:13 phasefx I was thinking maybe keeping alive some legacy system's way of having a family or classroom group; but I can't think of a better reason
14:14 Bmagic I could imagine a scenario where the patron lost their old card, got a new one, then found the old one
14:14 tsbere phasefx: Off the top of my head I can think of a couple. "School" accounts with multiple teachers carrying cards (so you can turn one off without affecting them all) is the best of them.
14:15 tsbere phasefx: Worst of them is "I want to access more than one library's subscription for a third party service that uses barcode prefix to authenticate, so I need multiple cards!" - Though a single "test account" with a pile of cards for such a thing is less of a bad thing IMO.
14:16 phasefx mmm
14:16 phasefx thanks!
14:17 tsbere I have also heard of "I want my secretary to have a card on my account so that she can pick my holds up for me" and "parent wants a card for each kid so they can pick the holds up, but we don't have a duplicator so we needed new numbers"
15:31 jeff but in both of those cases, it was pre-speed-fixes and pre-popularity-metric
15:31 jeff (though i don't know without looking if the popularity metric bits would affect an attr-only ingest at all)
15:32 dbwells worth noting that the "speed fixes" only get us back close to where we were circa 2.7 or 2.8, so slow -> slower -> yay, we're slow again
15:32 * dbs is trying to do the 2.11 thing, both for providing actual testing and because this is probably our last upgrade for quite a while. upgrading from 2.7
15:32 dbs dbwells__
15:32 dbs dbwells++ # i meant!
15:34 jeff heh
15:34 jeff and then there's that moment when i confuse a mozilla bugzilla browser tab for a text editor window...
15:36 dbs at least we have time-based releases, I'm dealing with another project that's still feature-based and holy hell is it madness. "Yes we've merged part of this feature but there's 10 blockers associated with it needing volunteers before we can cut the next release"
15:37 dbs heh
15:38 gsams I'm hoping to make the jump from 2.7 upward by the end of the year, as long as things fall in place properly.
15:57 miker dbs: popularity metric shouldn't interact with reingest at all
16:01 * Dyrcona doesn't recall any reingest for testing popularity matrix.
16:02 Dyrcona berick has suggested making pingest a standard bin. I'm for it, but my version and his have diverged a bit.
16:02 Dyrcona To the point where a merge is nontrivial.
16:16 jeff looking at 2.8-2.10 docs, minimum supported postgresql version has been 9.1 for a while, with the readme/install recommending 9.3 (though the 2.10 release notes recommend "9.2 or later" in mild conflict with the readme/install). this does leave us with Evergreen 2.9 and 2.10's required minimum PostgreSQL version (9.1) going EOL before the Evergreen release itself is out of support, but... we're getting better. :-)
16:23 bshum Right direction.
16:23 bshum KILL IT WITH FIRE!
16:29 * Dyrcona recalls needing to look at some branches that remove support for Precise Pangolin.
16:41 dbs miker: yeah, just noting the currency of our test server's database schema
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Results for 2016-07-31

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17:45 dbs oh those reingests (he said, eyeing the 2.9-2.10 upgrade)
17:53 bshum I don't recall if the speed improvements for reingest were ever merged
17:55 bshum dbs: You may want to check out what dbwells put together and gmcharlt's testing on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1588543 to see if reingest can be faster
17:55 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1588543 in Evergreen "Record attribute indexing slowed by non-index configuration" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Dan Wells (dbw2)
17:56 bshum It's presently an untargeted fix, but given what we know about slow reingesting, we may want to rectify that at some point before 2.11-beta
17:56 * bshum goes back to watching old TV shows
18:36 dbs bshum++
18:40 dbs ...testing...
19:45 miker bshum: I'll be merging that soon
20:28 bshum dbs++ # testing
20:28 bshum miker++ cool, cool
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Results for 2016-07-29

09:18 Dyrcona We're currently using the defaults for the three timeouts and I'd like to know if anyone has suggestions for better values to use.
09:19 Dyrcona It seems like JBoyer recommended 60 to 120 seconds, and Bmagic dropped some to 30 seconds.
09:19 JBoyer I suggested trying that, but ours are also still on the defaults
09:20 JBoyer Because testing is an enormous PITA since you never know when things will happen. :(
09:21 Dyrcona Bmagic mentions issues with sip that might be related to the 30 second values.
09:22 Dyrcona Before I do something drastic with connection limiting via a firewall, I'd like to try load balancer changes.
09:22 JBoyer That's a good plan.
09:55 Dyrcona It's tcp.
09:55 Dyrcona Never mind, a little thought goes a long way. :)
09:57 Dyrcona Hmm... That may complicate things if multiple requests come over the same tcp connection.....
09:58 jeff You could consider MaxKeepAliveRequests as a useful limiter there.
09:59 jeff But if you're adding mod_perl logic to classify requests you can probably set Connection: close before Apache normally would...
09:59 jeff I'm not actually sure how Apache would handle that.
09:59 jeff It might be on the client to honor it, and it might not.
09:59 jeff I've not had reason to test that.
10:00 Dyrcona I'm thinking of the book on the keyboard, and the constant stream of requests.
10:00 jeff right.
10:01 Dyrcona If they're all coming over the same tcp connection, then a firewall rule isn't gonna help. :(
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13:18 miker Dyrcona: lunch time thought experiment: http://nox.esilibrary.com/~miker/sta​sh-apache-requestrec.evergreen.patch + http://nox.esilibrary.com/~miker/te​st-apache-requestrec.opensrf.patch
13:22 Dyrcona miker: Looks interesting.
13:22 JBoyer I love a parallel bib load on migration day. 67K records, < 45 minutes. *sunglasses-emoji*
13:24 Dyrcona heh
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17:36 kmlussier OK, children are fed. Calling 0983 and 0984
17:38 Bmagic kmlussier++
17:54 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 16 commits to Evergreen...
17:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1549505: Query literal interpolation casts incorrectly - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ae3bb32>
17:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1549505: Remove stray semicolon from PgTap test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cf61449>
17:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1549505: Decrease value of Max popularity importance multiplier - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9402707>
17:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1549505: update $modal to $uibModal - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ac561d3>
17:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1549505: Stamping upgrade scripts 0983-84 for stat pop ratings - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d5ce592>
17:54 kmlussier miker++ gmcharlt++
17:56 kmlussier Have a nice weekend everyone!
22:02 hbrennan Happy weekend everyone!

Results for 2016-07-28

12:22 gmcharlt er, 1549505
12:22 kmlussier bug 1549505
12:22 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1549505 in Evergreen "Statistically generated record ratings" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549505
12:22 kmlussier Ah, ok. Thanks!
12:22 kmlussier gmcharlt++
12:22 * kmlussier now ponders how she will test it.
12:52 jeff anyone ever have the desire to mark patron stat cats as read-only?
12:52 jeff and "show only if already set"?
12:53 jeff mostly thinking of migrated/legacy stat cats.

Results for 2016-07-26

10:00 mmorgan :-[
10:00 mmorgan Ok I see it now. Thanks, jeff.
10:00 jeff the xul client has the value but no label, the web client has a label but no value. ;-)
10:01 * mmorgan sometimes misses the obvious when looking too close at the details.
10:03 * mmorgan is alse seeing that our test webby has the label but is missing the value. I'll open a launchpad bug.
10:03 mmorgan jeff++
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Results for 2016-07-25

16:44 Dyrcona In this case "client" is the NCIP client.
16:44 JBoyer Oh, I follow now.
16:47 Dyrcona ! JBoyer: Yep, I knew that, too. :)
16:48 JBoyer Dyrcona, in your case I thought it wouldn't work and you told them to go http only, I specified https and never heard anything about it (until I noticed that my testing server LE cert expired 3 months ago...)
16:48 Dyrcona I guess you don't have to use certificates, but I swear I saw them mentioned in the standard somewhere.
16:48 JBoyer I suppose you could do almost anything that both ends agree on, maybe it was in a draft or mailing list?
16:48 Dyrcona Hmm.....

Results for 2016-07-21

13:27 berick k
13:28 berick the browser client is leveraging (regular) apache a whole lot less than the tpac, but still based on the same TT processing code
13:29 berick i'm a little surprised it would be the cause of apache probs
13:30 jeff when this happened on another more test-only system, it was something i could usually reproduce. at this very moment i'm having trouble reproducing.
13:31 jeff nevermind, got it.
13:31 jeff well, "reproduced"
13:38 jeff it seemed to be an apache child getting stuck, and just not responding at all to the client.
13:39 jeff at this point, the server sees no tcp session, and the client (Chrome on OS X) is sitting spinning with a blank page, thinking that it's waiting on the server.
13:39 jeff at this point i only have one side of the tcp session, i'm gathering more data.
13:40 jeff one thing i'm trying to keep in mind is that this may not be the same as the previous time i had similar symptoms. trying not to combine observations. :-)
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13:45 berick on an unrelated note, anyone doing any audit table maintenance / cleanup?
15:07 terran And to put something on my dune buggy sunburn
15:07 kmlussier terran: Enjoy!
15:09 jihpringle kmlussier: hi
15:09 kmlussier jihpringle: Hello! :)
15:09 kmlussier I was just testing jeffdavis 's fix for bug 1589586.
15:09 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1589586 in Evergreen master "Acquisitions: Cannot prorate charges on invoice" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589586
15:10 kmlussier It's working well for me, but, while testing, I tried adding direct charges on a PO rather than an invoice.
15:10 kmlussier I found the same issue occurs there with prorated direct charges. But it seems to also happen on 2.9. I was wondering if you know if that's always been an issue on the PO?
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15:11 jihpringle we stopped using charges on POs several versions ago because they never seemed to work quite right
15:11 kmlussier I don't know if our users ever add direct charges from the PO, so maybe it's a non-issue.
15:12 kmlussier jihpringle: Ah, ok. Thanks.
15:12 jihpringle I think the only PO charges we've tested recently are for blanket orders and those are working (but aren't prorated
15:13 * kmlussier nods
15:13 kmlussier I may dig further, but since it appears to be a preexisting condition, I think the current fix is good to go in.
15:15 Christineb kmlussier++
15:15 Christineb Thank you for testing!
15:16 kmlussier Christineb++ #Thanks for finding the problem before our libraries upgraded to 2.10!
15:17 jihpringle kmlussier: I though there was a direct charge/po related bug on launchpad but I couldn't find it
15:17 kmlussier Oh, you know what? I bet you the problem on the PO occurs for the same reason it was happening on the invoice. Because the charges on the PO are encumbered.

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