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Results for 2024-10-17

11:35 sandbergja Dyrcona it'll take me a bit to push, I want to run the live tests one last time, and am also getting distracted by a few other things simultaneously.
11:39 * jeffdavis enjoys a cup of Ethiopia Washed Yirgacheffe, Koke Grade 1
11:46 * Dyrcona enjoys Sunday dinner leftovers: rib roast, potato and carrot.
11:48 sandbergja One of the live tests is failing with "Method [open-ils.actor.user.penalty.remove] not found for OpenILS::Application::Actor" -- did that method get removed recently?
11:48 sandbergja I am pretty confident that it's unrelated to this acq/cat patch
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11:50 eeevil sandbergja: (mostly for the room and logs) as a general rule, if unrelated methods start failing it's often a perl syntax error earlier in a sub-module, and the methods aren't getting registered because of that
11:50 Dyrcona Yeah. I'll take a look.
11:52 jeffdavis open-ils.actor.user.penalty.remove was changed to open-ils.actor.user.note.remove
11:53 eeevil jeffdavis++
11:53 Dyrcona I was going to check on rel_3_14 on my release vm, but jeffdavis++
11:53 sandbergja jeffdavis++
11:53 sandbergja eeevil: main seems okay as in the test passes on main for you?
11:53 Dyrcona That should probably go in an upgrade note.
11:54 eeevil sandbergja: sorry, no, I didn't run the tests, I just checked the syntax with `perl -wc`
11:54 sandbergja gotcha
11:57 Dyrcona eeevil: Do you have a strong opinion on Lp 2083873? Today would be a good time to hash it out.
11:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 2083873 in Evergreen "Remove support for PostgreSQL 10, 11 and 12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2083873
11:59 sandbergja Dyrcona++
11:59 eeevil Dyrcona: my preference would be, if testing proves it works for $not_me, to include the back-compat change, and drop fresh-install-support for 10-12... too much to ask? :)
12:00 Dyrcona It's not too much to ask. I noticed anycompatible is also used in the reporter, probably the security or Angular update. That would need a fix, too.
12:01 eeevil it's the reports security stuff that I offered a change to, IIRC
12:01 Dyrcona Oh, OK!. I thought I saw it somewhere twice. I'll double check. I'm probably hallucinating things from looking at too much code over the past couple of weeks.

Results for 2024-10-16

11:59 Dyrcona Yeah, this worked: ^=== \(.+?\)\( ===\)?$
11:59 Dyrcona That's 3 problems solved. :)
11:59 redavis Dyrcona
12:00 Dyrcona ** is bold in asciidoc, too, right? I guess I'll find out when I generate a test html doc.
12:00 redavis Just *[something]*
12:00 Dyrcona I thought *something* is italics.
12:00 Dyrcona I'll fix it if I botched it. should be easy enough.
12:17 Dyrcona We could probably script this conversion from === to ** in the subsections.
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12:20 redavis It looks like both * and ** work the same. I've updated the file if you don't have the whole thing done.
12:24 frank_g Hi all, I am trying to migrate my EG server to a new production server, the librarian is testing on it, and she is trying to create a new marc record, but when she tries to save it it shows the error : "Failed to create new record: {{error}}", and checking on the osrfsys.log there appears this error " open-ils.cstore ERROR inserting
12:24 frank_g biblio::record_entry object using query [...., ERROR:  Can't locate MARC/Record.pm in @INC (you may need to install the MARC::Record module) (@INC entries checked: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.38.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.38.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.38 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.38
12:24 frank_g /usr/share/perl/5.38 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at line 3"
12:25 frank_g Do I have to install somenting else? or it is a kind of bug?
12:25 Dyrcona frank_g: You need to install the database perl prerequisites on the database server.
12:27 Dyrcona Evergreen uses Perl functions in the database.
12:27 Dyrcona Or, you may need to install the prerequisites on your new server again. That might not be from the database now that I look again.
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15:50 abneiman redavis: Dyrcona: re above, I can check the relnotes formatting etc. on Friday if it's still giving you trouble
15:50 redavis It's taken care of. Bmagic is going to test the tarball and then we're good to go to next step. Thank you though.  Will let you know if there are additional things.
15:54 Bmagic will do
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15:54 abneiman ++

Results for 2024-10-11

10:05 jeff random friday morning musings.
10:05 scottangel sleary++
10:05 scottangel sandbergja++
10:07 jeff And while I still like the overall idea of autogenerated translations to aid dev/test by persons who don't speak multiple languages fluently, in the longer term some of that can probably be covered by different forms of automation that don't have a human in the loop.
10:08 scottangel Thanks! I didn't think it was using an older version than 15. Once I get my act together today I'll go down that rabbit hole and see if I get anywhere! lol Thanks! I started on this one. #1770289
10:12 sleary jeff++
10:13 sleary if anyone has time to review bug 2084166, we would love to fix that for old-school template people
10:42 sleary day/month/year? they should be below the inputs
10:43 sleary IIRC you can switch that around with CSS
10:46 Dyrcona They are below on Bootstrap, but to the right of the fields on TTOPAC. Could be some of our customization/missing styles.
10:47 Dyrcona I'll fire up the vm I was using yesterday to test vanilla Evergreen and see how it looks there.
11:03 Dyrcona sleary: Yeah, on stock in ttopac the labels are to the right of the fields. It's OK with me, but not sure that's what you wanted. I'll add a screenshot to a bug comment.
11:09 sleary thanks, I can add a quick style change
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12:00 Dyrcona Well, how nice of them.
12:00 Dyrcona jeff: Are you done checking the Hatch changes?
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12:17 jeff ready to start beta testing in chrome web store. who has credentials? :-)
12:23 Dyrcona JBoyer, I think has credentials, maybe berick?
12:23 Dyrcona I don't.
12:23 * Dyrcona looks at some more dark mode patches.
12:23 berick i should, yes, checking
12:30 berick i'm in.
12:31 berick poking around to find the beta options..
12:31 jeff take that hoodie off, and why are you wearing those ridiculous sunglasses? we're indoors!
12:32 jeff you should be able to establish a beta program if there isn't one already, where users can be added or opted in. it's the easiest/best way to test the "new version from chrome web store rolls out to installed browsers, what happens?" bit.
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12:37 berick who wants to be added as a trusted Hatch extension tester?
12:37 berick just need emails
12:45 pinesol News from commits: lp2083088 Patron Registration Contrast in Light mode <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=21cadb​da68032a3acdeb7f7a7832a0f4a38c1b11>
12:45 pinesol News from commits: LP2080885 Dark mode followup: Offline Circ Ignores Setting <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1917d9​c0582638beb92c5e6a3ca17f4f8286ee42>
12:46 Dyrcona Lp seems to be a bit slow sending email today, or maybe it is just me.
12:51 Dyrcona berick: I'll check with jamundson if he would like to test it.
12:52 berick ugh it's really not obvious if I'm unlisting the extension entirely or just this build
12:53 Dyrcona berick: I was just going to ask how do we get to the beta to test it.
12:54 Dyrcona We've apparently had 1 library's IT remove Hatch because of the "errors."
12:54 berick well i usually just install it locally.  i've never done the beta setup through the chrome store
12:54 berick but once i figure this out, i just share a link to it
13:01 berick Dyrcona: you can manually install exntensions locally using the developer mode toggle on chrome://extensions/.  you just "Load unpacked" the Hatch/extension/app directory
13:01 * berick will have to come back to this later
13:01 Dyrcona Ok. I can try building it myself. Never done that before. Always willing to learn something knew.
13:06 jeff doing it as a beta extension won't help test much of what I'd actually wanted to test, because it'll have a different extension/app id, etc.
13:07 jeff even with a limited rollout percentage, it looks like there's no real way to let a user force-acquire the latest version.
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13:21 Dyrcona Ugh. Maybe I should have just let fetch-deps.sh finish rather than trying to do with Ubuntu packages....
13:23 Dyrcona Looks like everything is linked in /usr/share/java, so that makes things easier.
14:19 Dyrcona Looks like the "evil" license has been replaced with just "Public domain."
14:20 Dyrcona Hey, Toto... Why did we go down this rabbit hole?
14:27 Dyrcona En fin!
14:32 Dyrcona Meh. The test fails....
14:32 Dyrcona It either can't find javafx.media or javafx.controls and I've added those modules.
14:34 Dyrcona Oh. bad path.
14:40 Dyrcona Oh. I think I've learned a lot about Hatch, though I've probably not got anything that I can give to someone else and say, "Install this."
14:45 Dyrcona I don't know if it does that, but it could probably be added if not.
14:45 Dyrcona I think it's time to take a break and find something to eat.
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15:38 csharp_ still fighting with IDL2js - does anyone know where I can see the cached object/file/whatever?
15:39 csharp_ the perlmod uses APR::Brigade/APR::Bucket, but they don't seem to be called explicitly so I don't know what happens to the file - I'm just trying to troubleshoot why the PINES-ified 3.14 beta is creating an invalid file
15:39 csharp_ 3.14 stock on top of an upgraded PINES DB works as expected
15:39 csharp_ fm_IDL.xml passes xmllint tests
15:40 csharp_ also, I switched in the stock fm_IDL.xml file with the same result, but since I don't know where the cache is or what it's doing or how to clear it, I'm just running in circles
15:41 csharp_ it doesn't appear in memcdump from the memcached servers
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15:46 csharp_ @blues idl2js
15:46 pinesol csharp_: I eat more coconut cream pie before breakfast than most people eat all day
15:46 csharp_ pinesol: zoia was better
15:46 pinesol csharp_: As great as you are man, you'll never be greater than yourself.

Results for 2024-10-10

09:23 sandbergja I'll confess to being a little tired of reading through long launchpad threads to try to understand which of 5 possible branches I'm actually supposed to review (and guessing wrong on multiple occassions).
09:23 Dyrcona Running gitolite is easier than running gitlab in my experience. It has fewer features, but do we need those features?
09:23 Dyrcona Yeah, same here, but we'd probably still have that problem with gitlab/github issues.
09:23 sandbergja one of the features that gitlab provides (including in CE) is the ability to automatically run all our tests on each merge request
09:24 Dyrcona We could do that with a post-receive hook in git.
09:24 csharp_ adding insult to injury, APT tries to install the most recent release and then you get scolded for trying to skip versions :-/
09:25 csharp_ re: "long launchpad threads" that seems to be a process problem rather than a software problem, but I completely agree
09:32 Dyrcona redavis: I added you sign off to the omnibus branch because you signed off on some of the fixes. Ditto for Christineb.
09:33 redavis Dyrcona++ #it was def a collab (not branch)
09:33 Dyrcona Well, if we hosted our Lp or Gitlab, git and the issues would be in the same place. Same thing with moving to Github.
09:33 sandbergja I dunno, it's just... every other project I'm a committer for has already run the test so I can review the results as part of my review, gives me a nice UI to review changes rather than having to determine a base commit and then count multiple commits, gives me a cute green button to press rather than having to count commits again...  I get some
09:33 sandbergja of the reasons why we make it harder than other communities do, but that doesn't make it any more enjoyable/productive for me.
09:33 csharp_ redavis: inertia is hard to break
09:33 redavis Ahh, that makes sense.
09:34 Dyrcona I suppose we could move our git to Launchpad as well. There's already a mirror there. We could make it the main repo. Our working repo is a bit unusual. Most projects don't have something like that.

Results for 2024-10-09

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11:26 Dyrcona Huh... My test system apparently doesn't have my logos, or they're in the wrong place....
11:32 Dyrcona So, I put them in /opac/images/ but looks like the template looks for them in /images/... Wonder if I missed a customization or something changed?
11:33 * Dyrcona moves them for now and will worry about it later. :)
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15:26 Dyrcona No, not at all.
15:26 sleary yeah, sounds like the library is missing
15:27 Dyrcona It's working on the concerto vm, so I'll try it again on the upgraded one with production data in a bit. So far, things are looking good.
15:27 sleary awesome. Dyrcona++
15:29 sleary oh, and on another note, I was going to say that color contrast is just about the easiest accessibility issue to check. Grab axe DevTools or use Lighthouse with the Accessibility option checked, and it'll tell you what to change.
15:29 sleary (Lighthouse is slower because it runs *all* its tests no matter which options you check... argh)
15:30 Dyrcona OK. I'll give it a look.
15:32 redavis column added.  That info was already included in the info about enhanced concerto
15:39 Dyrcona OK. Date picker is working after npm install in opac/deps and a make install.
16:18 sleary haven't really thought that far ahead though
16:30 csharp_ <homer>mmmm fish to fry aggghghghghgh</homer>
16:37 * abneiman looks up when the local AME has their next fish fry, because it's a culinary highlight 'round here
16:45 * Dyrcona needs to adjust the OPAC timeout while testing. I keep getting logged out. I changed it to 5 minutes to test the new dialog.
16:47 sleary I did that too, and regretted my choices
16:49 sleary I guess it's a taste of how annoying that feature is for assistive device users
16:52 Dyrcona Well, I had a search results page open that I was looking at to verify the accessibility changes, and it would get rest to the home page while I was reading one of the specific Launchpad bugs.
17:10 abneiman but yeah, we have a list of names that I was also planning to add to release notes
17:11 abneiman Dyrcona: this is on its way thru the tubes for you
17:11 sleary abneiman++
17:12 abneiman BC Coop was the main sponsor, NNELS did two rounds of testing: first to ID the issues, second to confirm fixes.
17:12 Dyrcona abneiman++
17:13 Dyrcona I think we already have BC Libraries Coop as a sponsor, but if not I'll add them when I add this. Probably tomorrow.
17:13 sleary Dyrcona++ thanks for going over all of it!

Results for 2024-10-08

15:15 Bmagic abneiman++
15:15 redavis abneiman++
15:15 Dyrcona abneiman++
15:15 shulabramble #info waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration
15:15 shulabramble #action waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration
15:15 shulabramble #info sleary and sandbergja will create/consolidate the test writing wiki page(s)
15:16 sleary #info in progress! We will have more to report next month / at hackaway
15:16 Dyrcona sleary++ sandbergja++
15:17 shulabramble #action sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month / at hackaway
15:17 Bmagic sleary++ sandbergja++
15:17 shulabramble sleary++ sandbergja++
15:17 shulabramble #info bug 2076921 expected to get more testing and merged, and beta uploaded to store
15:17 pinesol Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
15:17 redavis sleary++ sandbergja++
15:17 jeff testing in progress, will coordinate with berick later this week
15:18 redavis jeff++ berick++
15:18 shulabramble yay! jeff++
15:18 shulabramble berick++
15:18 Dyrcona jeff++ berick++
15:18 sleary jeff++ berick++
15:18 shulabramble #action bug 2076921 expected to get more testing and merged, and beta uploaded to store
15:18 pinesol Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
15:19 shulabramble #topic updates
15:19 shulabramble #info OpenSRF
15:23 redavis We're still on schedule for next Wednesday
15:23 Dyrcona Well, it should be out next week pending results of the feedback fest.
15:23 abneiman redavis++ jvwoolf++
15:23 sleary super extra kudos to everyone who's been learning new skills to help test the accessibility bugs!
15:23 shulabramble #info 3.14rc on target for Wednesday Oct 16
15:23 terranm 10 new bugs reported, but not all of them are related to 3.14
15:23 redavis I've updated the agenda with that. Also terranm++ for doing two rounds of feedback for this reason.
15:41 shulabramble redavis++
15:43 abneiman and it looks like 3.12 and 3.13 only have a handful of things on them so hopefully not too onerous
15:43 sleary I will have some keyboard shortcut fixes for 3.13 (MARC editor) hopefully
15:43 redavis It'd be good to have some help building/testing tarballs at the least.
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15:45 shulabramble anyone want to volunteer to help the security team with tarball tests?
15:46 redavis Oh, release team...sorry.
15:46 shulabramble anyone want to volunteer to help the release team with tarball tests? :)
15:46 redavis Just fill out that buildmaster sheet if you want to.
15:47 redavis Think about it.  Dream about it.
15:47 shulabramble Meditate on it at second level.
17:45 csharp_ hmm - noticing the lack of a 3.13.3-3.13.4 upgrade script
17:51 csharp_ psql:3.13.4-3.14-beta-upgrade-db.sql:534: ERROR:  unsafe use of new value "mfa" of enum type config.usr_activity_group -hmmm
17:51 csharp_ HINT:  New enum values must be committed before they can be used.
17:54 csharp_ ah, the inline comments even say that needs to happen outside a transaction but the only COMMIT; is at the end of the file
18:04 csharp_ fixed by adding COMMIT; before and BEGIN; after 1433
18:06 csharp_ ...and, now I'm on 3.14.beta on my test server. huzzah!
18:06 csharp_ seems like as good a time as any to call it a day :-)
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Results for 2024-10-07

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09:17 Dyrcona Bmagic++
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10:15 terranm csharp++ for helping get my test server back on track
10:15 terranm https://terran-main.gapines.org is up and running with the 3.14 beta - please test for Feedback Fest!
10:15 mantis does anyone know what generates the 'hold expired' patron notes?  I couldn't find anything about this in the docs.  I wasn't sure if it was a specific library setting or if this happens automatically.  I tried testing it with a hold that had a shorter shelf expire time, and when the hold was canceled and pulled, it didn't generate a note for my OPAC account.
10:16 terranm mantis: I believe those are created by an action trigger
10:16 mantis terranm++
10:17 terranm Hold Cancelled (Shelf-expired) User Message
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13:55 redavis sleary, are you getting signoffs from partner testing on the accessibility omnibus? or do you want community signoffs during FF? And if you want community signoffs, do you want them on the individuals tickets that have been marked as duplicate to show what's been tested of the omnibus and what hasn't?
14:21 csharp_ eeevil: for the MFA dependencies - is there a particular reason you chose the CPAN version of Authen::WebAuthn rather than the libauthen-webauthn-perl package in the repos? (it's in ubuntu jammy anyway)
14:22 csharp_ I know the repo version is different (0.001 vs 0.004) - didn't know if you had tried the repo version and saw you needed newer features, etc.?
14:23 csharp_ asking in the context of needing to build a deb from the CPAN version if needed
14:49 Dyrcona Take a few days off....
14:51 Dyrcona :)
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15:01 Dyrcona Argh! I hit the type anycompatible does not exist while testing my upgrade on Pg 10.....
15:01 Dyrcona That means another dump and restore to test it properly....
15:03 Dyrcona But! I can't restore the database as it exists on Pg 16, either.....It needs to be updated to at least Evergreen 3.10.x.... or something like that....
15:03 Dyrcona Sometimes, I hate how nitpicky this crap ends up being.
15:03 * Dyrcona looks for a certain bug on Lp.
15:41 sleary terranm Bmagic I found the issue with the AngularJS menus. Both branches for bug 2080438 have an additional commit to fix it.
15:41 pinesol Launchpad bug 2080438 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Library setting to turn off menus for unused modules" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2080438
15:42 Dyrcona So, maybe I have not backported it. It appears in my custom db upgrade that I made this morning.
15:43 Dyrcona Think I'll apply to a test db, dump it, and restore it on Pg 16.
15:48 Dyrcona It's the first Monday of the month, and I'm spending it as I usually do: messing with database stuff.
15:48 Dyrcona Only more so than is typical.
15:49 redavis lol, and you also are just back from being sick. DB as therapy and onramping

Results for 2024-10-02

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09:37 jeff test all you want, the morning of your upgrade staff will test HARDER. :-)
09:38 * redavis laughs and cries at the same time.
09:38 jeff this morning's interesting quirk/bug (haven't found in launchpad yet): 3.13.3, viewing holds for a patron in the staff client, no data in the Title column. Other hold-related interfaces have data in the Title column, including the display of holds for a record, and the Holds Shelf view.
09:38 redavis @coffee jeff
09:47 jeff I'm reminded of the old reliance on rmsr for title display in early web client interfaces, but this is unlikely to be exactly that.
09:53 * Dyrcona signs out before passing out.
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10:53 csharp_ @quote add  <jeff> test all you want, the morning of your upgrade staff will test HARDER. :-)
10:53 pinesol csharp_: The operation succeeded.  Quote #247 added.
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11:02 Rogan I think everyone knows that gut sinking feeling accompanied by "how did we miss that on test!?"
11:07 * abneiman pours one out for the testers, both pre- and post-go-live
11:11 mmorgan1 No test compares to real life. :-/
11:30 sleary I recently read Marianne Belotti's Kill It with Fire: Manage Aging Computer Systems and I think many of you would enjoy it
11:30 sleary (sadly, her advice is _not_ to kill it all with fire)
11:49 berick but that's my favorite thing to do with fire

Results for 2024-10-01

12:20 redavis Okay, after you reboot, can you join jvwoolf for a few minutes?  I can send you a link.
12:21 Dyrcona Yeah, send me the link. I don't know if I'll have to reboot, yet. I just clicked on install updates. ;)
12:22 Dyrcona Looks like I don't have to reboot.
12:43 Dyrcona I'm going to release OpenSRF 3.3.2. I will delay OpenSRF 3.2.6 pending the resolution of the test failure. I'll mention that in the release announcement.
13:02 redavis Dyrcona++ jvwoolf++
13:02 jvwoolf redavis++ Dyrcona++
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13:17 Dyrcona Ok. The OpenSRF 3.3.2 release is up and ready for download. I just have to write the blog post/email announcement.
13:17 redavis Dyrcona++
14:07 Dyrcona I ended up not mentioning OpenSRF 3.2.6.
14:12 Dyrcona So, OpenSRF 3.2.6 tests pass on Ubuntu 20.04, but fail on Debian Bullseye (11).
14:17 Dyrcona So, I guess I'll just release and open a bug on Lp.
14:20 Dyrcona For the record, OpenSRF 3.3.2 make check passes on Debian 11.
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Results for 2024-09-30

14:00 pinesol News from commits: Updating relator codes for 3.14 <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e64d17​eaed0fc2f7a18bfe651d4791675c3c37c4>
15:57 * Dyrcona wonders if he can get OpenSRF 3.2.6 done in an hour.....
15:57 berick in any event, Dyrcona++
15:57 Dyrcona 3.3.2 is ready, but I haven't released it yet. Tests work.
15:59 Dyrcona I can at least prepare the test build environment.
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16:36 Dyrcona Oh. I'm using a too recent linux release to build OpenSRF 3.2.6. Everything up to autoreconf works... Guess I'll finish this on an older release tomorrow.
16:37 Dyrcona There's also no prerequisite target for my release.

Results for 2024-09-26

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10:23 mmorgan I'm trying to figure out why the carousel widget introduced in bug 1882982 isn't working on our 3.12.3 production system. It works here: https://demo.evergreencatalog.com​/eg/opac/carousel?carousel_loc=1 (3.13), but not on my main test system, or our production system. https://evergreen.noblenet.org/​eg/opac/carousel?carousel_loc=1 gives me a Not Found, but there are definitely carousels that should be showing. Any ideas?
10:23 pinesol Launchpad bug 1882982 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Widget to Share Carousel on External Site" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882982
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11:13 mmorgan NM! We're using tpac and the changes are only to templates_bootstrap!
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12:14 pinesol News from commits: LP#2061004: Search suggestion regression fix <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f274e3​b795a9626c590364e3ead5c98e2932e242>
13:42 jeffdavis We're seeing some severe slowness with loading bib records via Vandelay in a new environment. Seems like the vandelay.auto_overlay_bib_record_with_best  is taking over 20 seconds per record.
13:45 jeffdavis Could be related to bug 1714332.
13:45 pinesol Launchpad bug 1714332 in Evergreen "Acq vandelay uploads are very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714332

Results for 2024-09-25

11:06 Bmagic ok, I did it anyways because I could
11:06 Dyrcona If you change the config file, you have to reload, I think. This is one you can set while connected with psql, if I understand the documentation.
11:11 Dyrcona Well, that almost worked. I think I got cached search results. I'll use a different phrase.
11:11 Bmagic during my test, I just stopped memcached
11:13 Dyrcona I'll restart memcached. It looks like the setting didn't take. I tried a different search and it wasn't logged. Maybe it only changes the setting for the current Pg process when you set it dynamically?
11:14 Bmagic yeah, that could be it. If you make a setting change via psql cli, it might be just for that session?
11:17 Dyrcona OK. that appeared to work.

Results for 2024-09-24

11:39 Dyrcona Search is complicated. You may have stumbled on a bug.
11:41 Bmagic well, the quoted string with the cache busting "-asdfasdf" might be a bug. But, nonetheless, I still have an issue with keyword quoted string search. It's my specific server/database that is exhbiting the problem
11:41 Dyrcona I can't help much today. I've got 3 or 4 branches that I want to get committed for the 3.14-beta deadline.
11:41 Bmagic testing other Evergreen systems, it's not a problem. Just this one server. There has* to be something I can do other than delete it and start over
11:42 Bmagic Dyrcona: no problemo! I'm channeling my inner Dyrcona and monologging my steps, in case it jars something loose in someone else's brain
11:42 Dyrcona I think the keyword quoted search working differently from title quoted search could be a bug. The former requiring cache busting sounds more like a symptom.
11:43 Dyrcona Squack! Squack! (Rubber ducks don't sound like real ones.)
12:11 Dyrcona Claiming 1440.
12:17 Dyrcona Hm... Now I wonder if patron import should take MFA into account? Meh. I'll push it and we can find out during feedback fest. ;)
12:21 redavis Dyrcona++
12:37 pinesol News from commits: LP1786524: Stamp database upgrade <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e222b8​2c15a5decacc5d784ae222dbc13353cf5b>
12:37 pinesol News from commits: LP1786524 Add a script to bulk load and update patrons from the server <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e57216​0be9ab317c7a6fcd8967144d0553f82087>
12:37 pinesol News from commits: LP#2080764 follow-up: add some tests <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ef653​61a5fca7bb239d8dad230b3a8298075151>
12:37 mantis Dyrcona++
12:37 pinesol News from commits: LP#2080764: Teach MFA about the session item prefix introduced by selfcheckout <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=61d263​e196638b14785cf7e139b27d564eaa4abe>
12:37 pinesol News from commits: LP#2080764: Only store a provisional flag when there is definitely a provisional... <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a93a5​4a9e2613eaa78b098fa62a24c3225f395e>
12:37 Dyrcona I should probably rebase my branch to test the Angular record buckets...
12:40 Dyrcona berick: Are you done with Lp 2003106?
12:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 2003106 in Evergreen "Support Midwest Tapes ASN Receiving via X12 EDI" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003106 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
12:43 berick Dyrcona: yes i'm done
16:08 pinesol News from commits: LP2063146: angular record buckets, pcrud changes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=199849​21b842c3b4114d2a6071027f1bda7c4a11>
16:08 pinesol News from commits: LP2063146: angular record buckets, db changes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2b9a7​205144bafccd018752e523a99d3dc7f4aa>
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16:10 sandbergja phasefx++
16:10 sandbergja sleary++
16:11 sandbergja Angular buckets is amazing AND it adds angular unit tests!  Thanks for including those, as if the branch wasn't excellent enough!
16:12 mmorgan phasefx++ sleary++
16:12 mmorgan sandbergja++ Dyrcona++
16:13 sleary sandbergja I think that was phasefx!
16:26 Dyrcona sandbergja++
16:26 Bmagic daaaang
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16:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2063146 follow-up: get angular unit tests passing <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7eb368​902e5d38dea4914b9303f0b0d9d51a8094>
16:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2080886 Dark mode: lighter disabled states <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9046aa​68f9347dbff1e98ed6d2c61db24efa21cb>
16:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2073988: Stamp database upgrade <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=39ad82​0d86f8c062bd1f977ca277a305ce274464>
16:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2073988 collapse facets in staff search: sticky <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=50ecea​d9abbd987a28a26485e45b4dbbf8fcceb0>
16:37 pinesol News from commits: LP2073988 collapse facets in staff search <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4331a3​c71f258f27fb9ea97495477daf93982f0e>
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16:47 Dyrcona I'm playing with the Angular circulation for Lp 2081327, and I've noticed that is often puts my current usrname in the patron registration username box. Even after it has filled in the barcode that I entered. I scroll back up and my username in there.
16:47 pinesol Launchpad bug 2081327 in Evergreen "Angular Circulation cannot save a patron" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2081327
16:49 Dyrcona At no point, does it ever let me save a patron on my test system that was upgraded and used to test the other branches today.
16:49 Dyrcona Even after I correct the username, I still can't save.
16:50 Dyrcona That username thing could be Last Pass tyrna be helpful....
17:00 redavis It sounds like that needs more work.
17:04 sleary I haven't had a chance to look into that one yet, but it should be a bugfix without any string changes
17:07 Dyrcona I have not tested it on a totally clean system either. I did wipe out /openils/var/web/ before testing the Angular buckets and facets code, and have not updated it since.
17:07 redavis sleary++ Dyrcona++
17:07 pinesol News from commits: Angular linter repairs <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b81daf​21781eb1ec88c2785976392eb698ba5573>
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16:10 Dyrcona So, everything new as well.
16:10 Bmagic the other issue I'm having with the branch is the hard coded ID number for the permission.perm_list INSERTS
16:11 Bmagic I increased them all by 2 and I'm still getting a conflict
16:11 Dyrcona This will be a good chance to double check if the database reqs for MFA were actually split out. I tested it on a machine that has services and db on 1.
16:11 Dyrcona Bmagic: delete the id column and the numbers. Let Pg decide.
16:11 Bmagic yeah, I could do that, but the patch is calling it out for some reason
16:12 Bmagic I didn't want to deviate the patch to far from OG
16:29 Bmagic yep :)
16:30 Dyrcona Bmagic++
16:31 Bmagic I believe all of the numbers need bumped by 2
16:31 Dyrcona I'll take care of that while I'm working on testing it. Looks like I won't get to push it today, but the deadline is tomorrow....
16:31 Bmagic plenty of time :)
16:31 Bmagic also: there is a small issue with the numbers on the first INSERT in 950 seed data. The ID number column doesn't agree with the i18 ID number
16:32 Dyrcona Ok, I'll check that. Think I'll reload my test database. I think I have a dump after I updated it on 9/4.
16:33 Bmagic Dyrcona++
16:33 Dyrcona No, but I have a dump from 9/1, so close enough. I just need to make a custom db upgrade from a different branch.
16:34 Dyrcona I'll make a new branch to test it while I'm at it.
16:34 Bmagic love me some branch
16:34 Dyrcona might as well eliminate the junk I added while groping with this issue.
16:35 Bmagic database? delete. filesystem? delete. OS? delete. interact with the CPU directly. The only way to eliminate errors
16:36 Dyrcona toggle switches on the front of the machine and no display.....
16:36 Dyrcona Or, just touch the exposed leads with hot wires...
16:36 Bmagic That's the real turing test
16:37 Bmagic We've been doing it wrong all along.
16:38 Dyrcona This will be a better dry run for building the beta next week, anyway. The database that I'm loading is closer to 3.13.4.
16:38 Dyrcona Mechanical computers are where it's at.
16:45 Dyrcona books...
16:45 Dyrcona I'll have to check that one out.
16:46 Dyrcona I always imagined Trillian not looking like Zooey Deschanel.....
16:48 Dyrcona All right. Time to cherry-pick into my new test branch. It's main with our custom templates....There is a conflict in the AngularJS splash page, 'cause we have moved things around.
16:48 Dyrcona I'm going to practice adding someone else's sign off in a batch as well as my own.
16:53 Dyrcona Not too bad. Use '-e' to run the editor, add the Signed-off-by:, copy, then paste for every other commit.
16:59 redavis Dyrcona++

Results for 2024-09-20

09:58 Bmagic nevermind on the OpenSRF main brainch, my problem was something else
10:06 redavis Just throwing a note in here.  Feature freeze for 3.14 is this coming Tuesday.  There are currently 14 LP tickets with signoffs waiting to be committed.  I appreciate the flurry of activity since slush started and am hopeful to get at least a significant chunk of the remaining signoffs into main.  They're listed here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nVuknGBCOS​UxBFId0bORVrJYw4Un0mD0kqr67d_AJ84/edit?usp=sharing
10:07 sleary redavis++
10:08 redavis Additionally, there are 23 tickets that have pull requests but no signoffs.  If anyone is of a mood and place in their life where they want to get and of those branches up on public test servers, I (and likely others) are around to test for sign offs.
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10:16 redavis (but I might go for a bikeride...just saying...but definitely available for testing before or after)
10:35 Bmagic here's my issue:
10:35 Bmagic psql:reporter-schema.sql:579: ERROR:  type anycompatible does not exist
10:40 Bmagic looks like maybe* the reporter security patch is missing some sql pieces to define the type for PG ?
11:21 pinesol News from commits: LP#1828456: use open-ils.auth.login for AuthProxy native login <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d74e31​39d9a88492d03f0ce34cccb7e02bd42ee0>
11:22 redavis Noice!
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11:29 sandbergja Is the live_t/lp1468422_passwd_storage.pg pgtap test failing for anybody else on main?  It's failing for me on postgres 13, 14, and 15.  Haven't checked 11 and 12, since as pointed out earlier, those have bigger problems.
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11:36 sandbergja also failing on postgres 16
11:39 sandbergja Also, if I may be so gauche as to plug a launchpad bug: bug 2055796 would add automatic checks on versions 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 of postgres, so that we could catch bugs and incompatibilities earlier.
11:39 pinesol Launchpad bug 2055796 in Evergreen "Have github actions run pgtap tests for us" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055796
11:40 sandbergja If you log in to github, you can see sample output here: https://github.com/sandbergja/Evergreen/​actions/runs/10962113742/job/30440600203.  If you click on, say, "Run PgTap tests (11)", you can see that it couldn't find the reporter schema due to the incompatibility with postgres 11, for example.
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11:42 sandbergja I don't know if we should add it when we have problems on literally every postgres version though...
11:45 * Dyrcona just checked the logs to see what was missed.
11:46 Dyrcona I'm OK with bumping the minimum version of PostgreSQL to 13, even 14. We should endeavor to upgrade our aging infrastructure.
11:47 Dyrcona I also agree that this should go to the development list, since not everyone is in here at the same time.
11:55 * Dyrcona jumped on that like a live hand grenade.
11:55 Dyrcona 'cause that's what this conversation is.
11:58 Dyrcona /me considered starting to look at Pg 17 the other day. It should be released soonish, and it's available for testing.
12:08 * sleary whispers "we're due to upgrade Angular again, too" and then flees
12:10 Dyrcona Running to stand still is what it feels like sometimes.
12:12 redavis lol, sleary, bless you.
12:14 Dyrcona Yeah, we should do that, too, but I suspect it's too late for 3.14?
12:14 redavis sandbergja++ #gauche is a great color on you.
12:15 redavis Dyrcona, I think it is too late for 3.14 unless there's a champion free "right now."
12:27 Dyrcona Login is broken on my test/training system again. Same message about auth.provisional not being a function. I did nothing with since I last got it working in here.
12:39 sleary definitely not suggesting we do anything with Angular versions for 3.14, lol, no
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12:56 Dyrcona Dunno if there's a bug on this already, but when trying to register a patron with the experimental Angular circulation module on Evergreen 3.13, I get this console message: Unable to check <input pattern=\u2018/[0-9|A-Z]{3,12}[-| ]?[0-9|A-Z]{0,4}/\u2019> because \u2018//[0-9|A-Z]{3,12}[-| ]?[0-9|A-Z]{0,4}//v\u2019 is not a valid regexp: invalid character in class in regular expression.
13:22 pinesol News from commits: LP924952: Make acq import resilient against empty subfields <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=450de7​4660a7e79165e76ef14641a4d78bd12e0b>
13:38 redavis sandbergja++
13:42 berick sleary: neato about Angular @let
13:54 redavis Completely irrelevant to Evergreen but this must be announced somewhere.  I've finally taken the time to set up my laser cutter after moving it from IN to VA.  It does need a new exhaust system, and I haven't confirmed cutting yet.  But did also install air assist which was much less painful than I'd supposed, but also hasn't been tested yet.
13:56 Dyrcona redavis++
13:56 redavis But prepping a little test now. **delight**
13:58 berick as long as you cut the word "evergreen" it's relevant.  and tax-deducitble.
13:59 redavis lol, I WILL cut the word "evergreen"!
14:10 redavis Well, it's definitely burning stuff.  We'll see the quality of the burn soon.

Results for 2024-09-19

13:52 Bmagic terranm++
13:55 redavis terranm++
13:56 * redavis wringes hands and whispers "more...more....MORE....." in a mildly golemlike voice.
14:08 sleary redavis I have 65 bugs assigned to me in Launchpad and I think 63 of them are OPAC fixes that are coming as soon as we finish testing. There will be more. :)
14:08 redavis Holy heckama!!! YUMMY!!!
14:10 * sleary will find time to review other things... but probably not today
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Results for 2024-09-17

12:19 Dyrcona On MFA: After all my fooling around this morning, it's working without any extra patches. Maybe this server is just flaky?
12:19 Bmagic deleted flag has never been set to true for the call number, item, shelving location, and opac_visible is true also all the way down
12:20 Dyrcona Updating location causes some triggers to fire. I'm guessing whatever data was maintained by those triggers was stale.
12:21 Bmagic what led me here was testing a different concerto test server, I added an item (in processing) and the search results are coming up (on the test machine) the way I would expect. Which rules out the item status as being the culprit. An item can be "In Process" and still show up in search results when scoped at the branch where it's cataloged
12:21 Dyrcona I made MFA required for my patron group. (Aside: It's fun when the 6 digit code changes while you're entering it on the site.)
12:24 eeevil Dyrcona: re patron mfa, it def should not "work" for opac logins ... unless you customize your opac code to send "staff" as the login type! :)
12:28 Dyrcona eeevil: I'm fiddling with the staff client only.
16:02 mmorgan s/he/they ;-)
16:04 Bmagic lol, thanks, yes! I prefer my deity to be female :), gotta deprogram my brain from using "traditional" language
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16:14 Bmagic if anyone wants to test the 3.13.4 tarball: https://evergreen-ils.org/downlo​ads/Evergreen-ILS-3.13.4.tar.gz
16:21 Dyrcona Oh! That reminded me of something I wanted to mention yesterday. If you're looking for any of my pastes on Pastebin.com, they're gone. I deleted my account this weekend because they have been handling their spam issue very badly and deleted several of my innocuous pastes.
16:21 Bmagic I've started introducing expiration of like 1 day each time I use that site
16:21 Dyrcona They don't respond when I use the form to say that the paste was removed in error and should be reinstated.
16:21 Bmagic but, I also don't have an account
16:22 Dyrcona I had a paid account. It was one of the few sites I've actually paid for.
16:23 Dyrcona I think the "they" is plural in this case since there are multiple people building point releases. :)
16:23 Dyrcona I'm not sure I'll have the time to test a tarball today. My circumstances are a bit unusual.
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19:40 Dyrcona So, looks like sandbergja is going to test the 3.13.4 tarball. I've got an hour right now and thought I would give it a go. I have to set up VMs on my laptop again after reinstalling the O/S.
19:49 Dyrcona Downloading the latest ISOs for Debian 11 and 12, and Ubuntu 22.04 and 24.04 looks like it will take up the rest of the hour.

Results for 2024-09-16

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09:42 abneiman Noting that I'm working on 3.12 and 3.13 point release notes right now, for those in a mergin' mood
09:44 csharp_ abneiman++
09:47 csharp_ I'm using the EOLI migration tools eg_staged_bib_overlay script to re-import our full bib and authority records (no holdings on bibs) and it's working well, but slowly - I'm looking for ways to speed it up
09:47 csharp_ is parallel-izing possible?
09:48 csharp_ we're matching on bib ID since this was a MARC cleanup by a vendor on records we already have
09:48 csharp_ I disabled symspell reify
09:48 csharp_ and browse updates
09:49 csharp_ (this is all on a test server at this point)
09:49 Dyrcona You could split the input file up and run the import multiple times at once, each processing a different file of course.
09:49 csharp_ but it was going slowly enough that I opened bug 2080802
09:49 pinesol Launchpad bug 2080802 in Evergreen "Add MARC write protection on bib and authority records" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2080802
12:22 Dyrcona I missed a verb after "could." I think I meant to say, "You could try running that function."
12:38 mmorgan Bmagic: There are limit to Available post search options in both public and staff catalog, filter gets added to the url. I'm not really sure how sticky those are.
12:39 Bmagic the opac search does not have that flag set but nonetheless, when branch-specific scope is used, the non-available item isn't included
12:40 Bmagic I'm going to see if the theory holds on other test systems
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15:22 eeevil I'm going to merge the self checkout followup followup, and then I think I'm done merging for the day... whew
15:23 Dyrcona :)
15:24 Dyrcona Reminds me of a line from "Christmas in Connecticut:" Shortcut to the the shortcut. Said after Sam(?) bogs the car down in a pond.
15:25 pinesol News from commits: LP1840773: Test followup for self-checkout <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7b219​4676e773dd014d93dc55a73688337a47d0>
15:25 pinesol News from commits: Stamping upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c94c0c​b1403cf8c36760ec8c4cec335e4f5db210>
15:25 pinesol News from commits: LP#1903749: Add upgrade script and seed data <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fb3a2​a60282c7ed31cc339cab58713186d0b4e5>
15:25 pinesol News from commits: LP#1903749: WIP - allow adjacent-copy capture during stalling <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=04a228​ddcae3907c4682f18099027342577e722e>
15:25 pinesol News from commits: Stamping upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dccf1​9cb03fc63b3f5ed33b380ea4383c10fbd1>
15:25 pinesol News from commits: LP#2043142: Base IDL-configured report security <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=25e1fb​282b4432aa97111419375c947d2027a600>
15:26 Dyrcona Dang it! Wrong movie and wrong character. It's Gus from Holiday Inn..... I never should have gotten that gyro for lunch. :)
15:30 Dyrcona I also wonder if this should be a bug all on its own? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ever​green/+bug/2073561/comments/16
15:30 pinesol Launchpad bug 2073561 in Evergreen "Incorrect content in the config.coded_value_map with ctype audience after applying the upgrade script from 3.12.3 to 3.13.0" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
16:46 Bmagic I'm troubleshooting a search result issue. Search does return results at the consortium level and you can see the item is clearly attached to a bib at a branch, but when I change the search to scope to that branch, no results. that's all I change, the branch
16:46 Bmagic disable triggers? which triggers are you thinking are disabled?
16:47 Bmagic how is it possible for earch to return just fine at the consortium level for a bib that contains exactly one item, attached at branch A, but searching in the scope of branch A doesn't return?
16:48 eeevil triggers maintain the data used to test visibility, so ... those ones
16:49 eeevil are there located URIs on the bib?
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16:49 Bmagic no
16:51 jihpringle Bmagic: long shot but is there any chance the shelving location is deleted?
16:51 Bmagic biblio record entry has {} for vis_attr_vector
16:51 eeevil Bmagic: and, to be clear, modern EG tests visibility on demand, it does not use the old visibility caching. various stuff is collected statically into an int array, and then that is checked with an overlaps test against the currently-configured set of visible things
16:51 Bmagic I checked that, non of the things are opac_visible='false
16:52 jihpringle we ran into some really weird issues in search and display when a library accidentally deleted a shelving location they were still using
16:52 Bmagic the status is "in Process" which is opac visible, the shelving location is visible, the org unit is visible

Results for 2024-09-12

09:19 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:19 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Pacamara Finca Los Alpes The Bank, and sends it sliding down the bar to ejk
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09:57 sandbergja A little celebration: main now has 190 unit tests for the angular staff client.  Let's get 10 more so we can hit 200!
10:37 mmorgan1 Woo hoo!
10:49 sleary sandbergja++
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Results for 2024-09-11

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14:43 redavis Dyrcona, did you allow it for all permission groups or one specifically?
14:46 Dyrcona 1 specifically... the one I'm in.
14:48 redavis Is this a localized server environment or test w/ concerto?
14:50 Dyrcona It's basically a copy of our production that has been upgraded to 3.13.3.
14:50 Dyrcona I think I have to do more configuration before I can actually turn it on. I'll check the documentation.
14:51 redavis Got it.  I was going to see if you wanted someone to take a look if had an anonymous dataset.  But...n/m.  I ain't an expert at all, but did fuss around with it a lot.
14:53 abneiman still some open spots on the BuildMaster sheet for next week if anyone's available: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF7qK​0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit?usp=sharing
14:54 abneiman (shameless plug)
14:55 redavis specifically someone to test Bmagic's 3.13.4 tarball.
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14:56 Dyrcona I'm getting something about undefined factors. I have more set up to do.
14:57 Dyrcona Doesn't help I'm trying to do something else time sensitive, and I think I missed it.
16:05 redavis NC was very hard after it, as was GA and grumblings from IN as well.
16:05 redavis lol, I won't tell anyone about SIP2.  Until the "after days"
16:07 Dyrcona I think this works well enough to put in for 3.14 beta. Any bugs turn up we can fix them before the final release.
16:08 redavis Yes. And it's going to need some broader scope production testing as well.  There will invariably be some tickets that spin off from it, but I think it's a very solid and functional big first step.
16:08 redavis For something that a lot of people concede is necessary but feel like it's a PITA.
16:09 Dyrcona It just means I have to get up to get my phone out of my pants when working from home. :)
16:09 redavis see?  It's actually SAVING you from a PITA.
16:09 Dyrcona I already do this for Github, Gmail/Google, payroll/time clock, etc.
17:33 eeevil right on. now, having tossed those out, I run away!
17:33 Bmagic laters
17:38 Guest6 Hello. In web staff client for holding "Pickup Location" shows Short (Policy) Names. I want to show organisation unit names. How can I do this?
17:40 Bmagic eeevil: combined was set to no, so I set it to yes. That didn't fix it, but maybe we need to reingest after that? I just reingested the one record that I'm testing with and it doesn't to seem to have solved it. I didn't restart Evergreen though
17:41 Bmagic Guest6: is this while placing a hold? Or are you creating/editing a hold policy?
17:48 Guest6 Yes, while pacing hold.
17:49 Guest6 while placing hold.

Results for 2024-09-10

11:37 csharp_ ian2: logs information that's probably useful: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BJ7kSr5Lf​PkxXRhcrYjNyPlbT9PlNFHg6zL-tyetnKA/edit?pli=1
11:38 csharp_ that doc or something like it needs to go into the official documentation
11:38 csharp_ I'll submit a docs pull request at some point
11:38 mmorgan ian2: Not really, we originally had a single hold.available trigger at the CONS level, but moved them all down to system and branch level during covid times by cloning the CONS one and editing the owner. Then we could enable when appropriate.
11:41 mmorgan ian2: I assume you're testing by checking in a held item so that it goes on the Holds Shelf?
11:42 ian2 You assume correct
11:42 mmorgan :)
12:17 Bmagic csharp_: PG15 is working for us, but I've been limiting it to Evergreen 3.12 and higher. I can't say for previous versions of EG
15:20 Bmagic #action waiting on
15:20 Bmagic whoops
15:20 Bmagic #action waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration
15:20 Bmagic #info sleary and sandbergja will create/consolidate the test writing wiki page(s)
15:21 sleary sandbergja and I will meet later this week to work on that
15:21 sleary carry forward, please
15:21 Bmagic #action sleary and sandbergja will create/consolidate the test writing wiki page(s)
15:21 Bmagic #info sandbergja will make it easier for folks to know how to run the tests in single file mode and all-mode
15:21 Bmagic I guess that's the same thing?
15:21 sleary yes
15:22 Bmagic berick++
15:22 mmorgan berick++
15:22 mmorgan jeff++
15:22 jeff other testing welcome, especially if you feel your environment may be unusual (though this changes the extension, and not the native messenger / locally installed bits)
15:22 csharp_ jeff++
15:22 csharp_ berick++
15:22 shulabramble jeff++ berick++
15:23 Bmagic who is the one that installs/updates the extension in the store?
15:23 berick i should have access
15:23 berick galen does too, maybe others
15:23 jeff I think the next step assuming successful testing will be to do a short beta test in the Chrome web store, to ensure that the V2 -> V3 upgrade doesn't introduce any unexpected "hey you have to re-re-enable this 'sideloaded' extension" problems, etc.
15:23 Bmagic jeff: perfect
15:24 Bmagic we need a sign-off, merge, and beta version in the store?
15:24 berick and likely some docs around Firefox, since I had to break the manifests into one file per browser
15:25 jeff prettyty much. please carry forward as testing in progress, and I hope/expect we should have progress to report next meeting.
15:25 jeff assuming my keyboard / terminal stops repeating my letters. :-P
15:25 dluch lol
15:26 Bmagic #action bug 2076921 expected to get more testing and merged, and beta uploaded to store
15:26 pinesol Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
15:26 Bmagic #info Bmagic will work on upgrading the version of DokuWiki
15:26 Bmagic I did it! Thank you, thank you

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