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Results for 2016-02-25

13:40 jeff alas.
13:43 jwoodard @librarian
13:43 pinesol_green jwoodard: Management:14, Cataloging:14, Acquisitions:10, Reference:15, Circulation:5, Systems:16, Research:16, Custodial:14
13:44 berick kmlussier: do you still have access to your test server that's running the patron circ history code?  bug 1527342
13:44 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1527342 in Evergreen "Maintain patron reading history in a dedicated table." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527342
13:44 berick kmlussier: wondering if you could confirm something for me..
13:44 kmlussier berick: yup
15:36 miker berick++
15:39 gmcharlt berick: and to expand on what I meant about a form-builder, basically what I have in mind is doing the equivalents of AutoFieldWidget and EditDialog... just more easily, because angular
15:40 berick gmcharlt: that would be rad :)
15:41 gmcharlt berick:  working repo commit 535239952d to get a test of what I have in mind; just making it more generic
15:41 gmcharlt *taste
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15:41 berick hm, looks like bug 1206936 busted the baseline schema (premature reference to money.materialized_billable_xact_summary)
15:41 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1206936 in Evergreen "money.transaction_billing_summary view displays incorrect billing_type and billing_note for the actual last transaction" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206936
15:52 * berick pushed user/berick/lp1206936-base-schema-repair
15:52 berick will comment int he ticket too
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15:53 kmlussier berick: I can test that right now
15:53 berick kmlussier++
16:15 kmlussier Looks like it worked. I'll merge it in a few
16:17 kmlussier Multitasking is not all that it's cracked up to be.

Results for 2016-02-24

10:03 kmlussier berick: Thanks! I'm going to look at that branch again in a few minutes once I finish up on some other tasks.
10:03 berick awesome.  i pushed a fix to for the seed data.
10:03 kmlussier berick++
10:05 berick kmlussier: did I understand correctly that you all are testing bug 1333254 as well?
10:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1333254 in Evergreen "EDI invoices automatically expend debits" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333254
10:07 kmlussier berick: Yes, we have somebody looking at it now, and I also sent login information to some Sitka folks who were interested in looking at it.
10:07 berick kmlussier++
12:40 bshum berick++
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13:10 kmlussier Christineb / jihpringle: Are either of you testing acq on the MassLNC VM right now? I was planning to take it down for a few minutes to add an updated branch.
13:10 Christineb kmlussier: not right now
13:10 Christineb will be doing more testing this afternoon
13:11 Christineb kmlussier thanks for heads up :D
13:11 kmlussier It will be up again in 15 / 20 minutes.
13:11 Christineb perfect
13:43 jeff berick: but don't worry, an earlier attempt (before i opened dev tools to see what the heck was going on) loaded enough for me to see which image it was, and it was one i was familiar with. :-)
13:44 jeff anyway, ads--
13:44 berick jeff: oh my
13:45 kmlussier Christineb: The test server is back up again.
13:45 berick the internet is a scary place
13:45 berick (which is kind of what I like about it)
13:45 Christineb kmlussier: awesome thank you,  I plan to finish testing by EOD
13:45 kmlussier Christineb: You'll need to download a new client too. Sorry.
13:46 csharp @blame The Internet
13:46 pinesol_green csharp: The Internet 's bugfix broke csharp's feature!
13:49 berick @redact [blame The Internet]
13:49 pinesol_green berick: It really IS The Internet's fault!
14:24 dbwells grabbing 0959
14:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1206936 - Fix wrong billing info in money.transaction_billing_summary - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6d24cb9>
14:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1206936 Stamping upgrade script; adding test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b4415fa>
14:46 mmorgan I have a number of mark lost trigger events that are stuck in state "collected". If I add a repeatability delay and run the trigger again, will new events be created and these "collected" ones just be ignored?
14:47 mmorgan Or will these collected ones cause me even more grief than triggers genrally do?
14:47 mmorgan /genrally/generally

Results for 2016-02-23

13:52 Dyrcona Specifically, I'm always seeing more details regardless of the state of the show more/fewer details button.
13:52 Dyrcona My suspicion is we botched something with a rebase/merge and our customizations, so I will try a plain master in a bit.
13:52 Dyrcona Thought I'd ask first, though.
13:53 Dyrcona kmlussier: Are you actively testing on my development vm?
13:54 dbs Dyrcona: what's show_more_details.default set to? We're at 2.7-ish so our experiences don't matter anyway :/
13:54 kmlussier Dyrcona: Other than quickly doing a search to see the problem with fewer details? Nope.
13:54 jeff Dyrcona: what value do you have for show_more_details.default? true, false, or hide?
21:43 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org
21:46 kmlussier @later tell Dyrcona are you still planning to look at bug 1013786?
21:46 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
22:02 * kmlussier sees loads of LP bugs with promises from kmlussier to load the code on a VM for testing.
22:02 kmlussier Empty, empty promises
22:02 bshum I think priority goes to bugs sponsored by people who offer candy.
22:02 bshum Or some other tasty treat.
22:02 bshum But that's just my opinion.
22:02 * bshum will also test patches for karma
22:04 * kmlussier has already fed cookies to bshum
22:05 kmlussier Of course, I do believe bshum was the person who merged my most-recent code.
22:05 kmlussier But, now that you mention it, nobody ever makes cookies for me.
22:08 kmlussier bshum: What do you call those?
22:08 bshum I baked the cupcakes, with assistance from my mother and sister, who got tired of how long I was taking as I painstakingly measured out the batter to each one.
22:09 bshum kmlussier: Eh, I'm not sure actually. I make them for afterl's christmas parties :P
22:13 jlitrell bshum++
22:13 jlitrell That's for upcoming bug testing, not cupcakes.
22:15 kmlussier Have a nice night late-night #evergreen folks!
22:40 bshum kmlussier / jlitrell : re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1519055 , I can't recall, but wouldn't adding a new attribute definition require reingesting the bibs to find and tag them with the new attribute?
22:40 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1519055 in Evergreen "Simple checkbox to exclude electronic resources from search results" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Jake Litrell (jake-3)
23:01 pinesol_green [evergreen|blake] LP#1466990: Detailed search results shows parts for items that dont have parts - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4b40e68>
23:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1545178: remove two unused methods - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=49590f0>
23:48 bshum Calling 0958
23:53 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1505286: limit number of facets retrieved - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=01ffba4>
23:53 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1505286: add pgTAP tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=24a7665>
23:53 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1505286: add release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9cf7350>
23:53 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1505286: stamping upgrade script for limit facets retrieved - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=70c1da0>

Results for 2016-02-19

09:55 kmlussier That's special.
09:57 csharp okay, let's rule out NFS... can you go to the directory where the report share is mounted on an app server and 'ls' its contents?
09:58 mceraso Sure thing
09:58 kmlussier berick: In bug 1474566, you mentioned that you were going to test with live data and report back. Did you ever get the chance to test with live data?
09:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1474566 in Evergreen "Credit card API amount paid rounding error." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474566
09:58 * kmlussier is looking at credit card bugs today
09:59 csharp mceraso: note that *I* don't need to see the contents, I'm just curious if it shows the dir listing :-)
10:08 csharp mceraso: okay, then not NFS
10:09 csharp or at least it doesn't appear to be
10:09 tsbere mceraso: Before we dig too much, is it just *new* reports not showing output, or do pre-update reports also do the same thing?
10:09 kmlussier berick: Great!
10:10 kmlussier Of course, I have no idea how to test it. Not sure how you get to 9.999999 in fines.
10:10 tsbere kmlussier: Floating point weirdness.
10:10 mceraso tsbere: Checking on that now
10:11 mceraso tsbere: I can confirm it is just new reports
12:29 kmlussier I think bshum used to take responsibility for that.
12:31 kmlussier Of course, it's something that can be done by anyone who has commit privileges for docs
12:36 kmlussier Calling 0956 and 0957
12:38 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] Porting 2.8.4-2.8.5 / 2.8.5-2.8.6 DB upgrade scripts - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=24cf938>
12:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1474051 Drop unneeded CC payment fields - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4718bf4>
12:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1474051 PGTAP test checking dropped columns - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c23f145>
12:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1474051 CRON script for clearing CC numbers - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a8cb9b9>
12:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1474051 Release/Upgrade Notes on dropped CC fields - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9247180>
12:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1474051 Stamping upgrade script for drop-cc-data - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4ae3fa1>
12:46 csharp berick++ kmlussier++
12:49 berick kmlussier++ indeed
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Results for 2016-02-18

10:35 krvmga csharp: i think that may be exactly it. i'm seeing what i can do now.
10:35 krvmga tsbere++
10:35 krvmga csharp++
10:43 kmlussier berick: If I wanted to test the code from bug 1333254, I also need to load the code from bug 1380709?
10:43 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1333254 in Evergreen "EDI invoices automatically expend debits" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333254
10:43 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1380709 in Evergreen "invoice print amounts-per-fund uses wrong value when item price varies" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1380709
10:44 kmlussier Actually, that code already has a signoff. I should just take a quick look at it and merge it.
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11:11 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 6 commits to Evergreen...
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1367926: release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b3b433d>
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1367926: add some unit tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8e60e0a>
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1367926: various improvements and bugfixes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f0ac3da>
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1367926: Expose non-MARC bre data via U2 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b1892a6>
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1367926: Add support for (nearly) direct access to the full unapi backend - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4fbeac6>
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11:15 dbwells As I think Dyrcona mentioned earlier, it seems like that commit plugin got reversed or something.  It shows the first give commits backwards, when I feel like it used to show the last five commits, ordered oldest to newest.  Doesn't matter much, just throwing it out in case anyone who can wanted to look into it.
11:15 dbwells Possible my memory is off, but in any case, it isn't doing what it claims to do :)
11:20 kmlussier Speaking of our IRC plugins, the one that used to show the results of our QA tests still doesn't seem to be hooked up.
11:20 kmlussier Just in case anyone wants to look at that one while looking at the commit plugin. ;)
11:23 jeff @rss announce
11:23 pinesol_green jeff: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
11:23 jeff ah.
11:23 jeff well, that's a problem.
11:24 jeff @rss qatests
11:24 pinesol_green jeff: 11:24 AM, February 18, 2016: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
11:24 jeff @rss announce list
11:24 pinesol_green jeff: qatests
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11:25 jeff @rss info qatests
11:25 pinesol_green jeff: Title: Test Output Summary; URL: <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>; Description: Live Test Suite; Last updated: time unavailable.
11:25 jeff okay, todo list entry created.
11:26 kmlussier jeff++
11:30 Bmagic anyone have a general idea of why an item (in item status) on the holds tab will say "not captured for a hold, however its status is incorrectly set to "on holds shelf" please check in this item to correct the status."
11:34 tsbere Bmagic: I suspect that someone cleared the shelf but didn't check the book in
11:35 Bmagic tsbere: yeah, they couldn't find the book
11:35 * tsbere generally prefers the clear shelf expired holds checkin modifier these days
11:38 kmlussier Heh, just noticed we have three live-t tests with the number 10
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11:42 kmlussier Does it matter if we have duplicate test numbers in that directory? I ask because I was just about to merge a branch that will add another duplicate.
11:42 Dyrcona I don't think it does matter, but it is not esthetically pleasing. :)
11:45 kmlussier Well, maybe I'll change the number for the one I'm merging, and if others want to clean up the others for aesthetic reasons, they can. :)
11:45 Dyrcona Sounds good to me.
11:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1380709 Renaming live-t test to avoid duplicate numbers - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5c3d3e3>
11:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1380709 Perl live test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=136b6b1>
11:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1380709 acq.lineitem_detail.fund_debit INDEX - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9f8444f>
11:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1380709 fund_debit.invoice_entry INDEX - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=81804c9>
11:55 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1380709 Fund debit links to invoice entry - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=94ec1e1>
11:58 berick kmlussier++
11:58 berick I'll rebase 1333254
12:00 kmlussier I think I'm going to put a few acq branches on one server and hand it over to our acq folks.
13:12 Christineb dluch anything you can do is appreciated :D
13:14 dluch_ Ok.  :-)
13:15 Christineb #action  dluch christineb jihpringle to review current development list as time permists
13:15 Christineb #topic Review existing acq bugs needing testing
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13:16 Christineb 3 Acq bugs on Launchpad with pullrequest tag - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iEWNjR3yhl​uIA5ViLZAj_QANEmaKlJ5L8JMubtO_mZc/edit?usp=sharing
13:18 jihpringle does anyone have the ability/time/resources to test any of these bugs?
13:18 jihpringle I think if they were tested and signed off they would have a better chance of making it into the next release
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13:19 jihpringle I would love to see 1333254 make it into 2.10 (it would make year end so much easier) but we don't currently have a test server we can test it on
13:21 jihpringle if they don't make it into 2.10 we'll want to make sure they get included in bug squashing day so they can get included in 2.11 (or whatever comes next)
13:21 Christineb #topic New Business
13:21 Christineb anyone have anything new to discuss?
13:22 jihpringle Leslie from PINES wasn't able to attend today but had a couple questions
13:46 Danielle2 mllewellyn: Ok that makes a lot of sense-we get ours within 15 minutes of Activating the PO.
13:47 Christineb There will be no formal Acquisitions meeting at the 2016 Evergreen Conference
13:47 Christineb But we would like to schedule a time for an In-person meeting, similar to last year where we met during lunch or break period
13:48 kmlussier Sorry to interrput, but back to the question above regarding testing of the acq bugs with pull request tags (http://bit.ly/1XAcriq), I just loaded the code for all three on a MassLNC Sandbox. If anyone wants to test, let me know and I'll send you login details.
13:48 jihpringle kmlussier++
13:48 Christineb kmlussier++
13:48 Christineb you are the best!!!!!
13:48 mllewellyn kmlussier ++
13:48 jihpringle I will definitely test if you send me login details
13:48 kmlussier OK. great! jihpringle++
13:49 jihpringle thanks :)
13:49 Christineb I can test as well, I won't have time until next week though
13:49 Christineb #action kmlussier to send jihpringle christineb MassLNC sandbox login details
13:50 kmlussier Christineb++
13:50 Christineb #action jihpringle Christineb to test 3 acq bugs with pull requests https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet​s/d/1iEWNjR3yhluIA5ViLZAj_QANEmaKlJ​5L8JMubtO_mZc/edit#gid=1659472283
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13:52 dluch_ informal gathering/meeting at conference would be nice
13:52 jihpringle there are already a few sessions for lunch and breakfast - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet​s/d/1cgXALUY3pDP_Bt2TeRRm0IKekZOet0​jPFLHEkOV2CpQ/edit#gid=1589049103
16:37 Bmagic kmlussier - yes and no, I've had to put it on the back burner for awhile
16:37 Bmagic kmlussier: if someone else is wanting to take it for a ride, go for it
16:37 kmlussier Bmagic: Not yet, but maybe later. I'll let you know.
16:38 Bmagic I had some code that you tested on the last bug sqaushing day
16:38 Bmagic kmlussier: that addressed another bug, but they are related, in fact might be the same
16:39 Bmagic or at least the same code would solve both
16:39 kmlussier Bmagic: Really? I thought they were different issues.

Results for 2016-02-17

09:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1544606 in Evergreen "tpac translations broken in 2.9" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544606
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10:24 Dyrcona kmlussier && anyone else who uses it: my regular development vm is being shut down and a new concerto vm will take its place.
10:24 Dyrcona I'll be testing leading up to a 2.9.2 release.
10:28 Dyrcona Hrm.... Maybe I need to fix our training/development db server first....
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10:36 Dyrcona Looks like it ran out of free disk space last night.
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11:44 kmlussier Dyrcona / berick: I'm just getting started on point release notes now. I should have those done shortly.
11:44 Dyrcona kmlussier++
11:45 Dyrcona I'm still working on testing bshum's i18n fixes for tpac/webstaff.
11:45 berick kmlussier++
11:45 Dyrcona I ran into an unexpected delay with our second database server.
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15:55 berick 10, I think
15:56 berick actualy, no, 14
15:56 gmcharlt berick: Koha uses a bcrypt variant with 8 iterations
15:56 jeff In your and dbwells' testing, what is the wallclock difference in time required to log in?
15:57 berick jeff: quick test shows .1 seconds to 1 second (roughly)
15:57 berick for just the auth calls combined
15:57 kmlussier berick: Is that an OPAC login?
15:57 berick i.e. via srfsh
15:57 berick opac will take a little longer w/ API overhead

Results for 2016-02-16

14:18 Dyrcona Yeah, I did it in the directory where the file lives. I'll try -p.
14:21 Dyrcona -p 1 didn't help, but doing it from my root and secifying --directory=./perl did.
14:22 berick cool
14:26 Dyrcona Patch applied in a test branch. I'll have to test it later this week.
14:27 jeff oh hey, i got this to happen again:
14:28 jeff OpenSRF Drone [open-ils.search]
14:28 jeff \_ OpenSRF Drone [open-ils.search]
14:48 jeff but at that point, you're probably already in deep trouble.
14:50 Dyrcona Yeah, when you're out of resources and can't fork a process, it might be a good idea to hang it up and go home. :)
14:55 kmlussier Calling 0951
15:01 * Dyrcona decided to fire off a pingest.pl test on his dev vm anyway.
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15:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP 1499123: Stamping upgrade script for standing-penalty-ignore-proximity - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c1b64bf>
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Results for 2016-02-11

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15:14 lualaba hello time to time on my server processes died
15:14 lualaba * timed out waiting on open-ils.acq pid=37626 to die * cannot signal open-ils.acq: process 37626 is not running * sending TERM signal to pid=37604 router * sending TERM signal to pid=37605 router
15:15 lualaba after restart osrf everyrhing is working
15:19 lualaba this is in logs: evergreen CRON[50526]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ))
15:23 jeff lualaba: that log entry is expected -- it's cron running daily tasks. it is possible that you are running out of memory, in which case you'll probably have a recent note to that effect in the output of dmesg or in the file /var/log/dmesg (and likely some other places as well)
15:23 jeff lualaba: how much memory does the machine have?
15:27 lualaba 2 GB ram
15:41 lualaba Thank you, there is any suggestion to disable some of services or jobs?
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16:02 Dyrcona lualaba: If you're not using acq, you could probably disable that. There are not that many you can actually disable without causing problems.
16:02 Dyrcona lualaba: You could also configure fewer minimum drones and maximum drones. I've done that for test and development servers.
16:04 * Dyrcona would like to make it so that circ does not depend on booking, for instance.
16:04 * Dyrcona had an idea how to do it once, but ran out of tuits.
16:04 lualaba how fewer minimum drones and maximum drones?
16:08 Dyrcona lualaba: You don't want to set <min_children> below 1, though.
16:08 Dyrcona miker: I think we tried once and circ blew up.
16:08 Dyrcona miker:  I know there are calls to open-ils.booking in there. give me a minute.
16:09 miker related to Dyrcona's advice (for the room), I have a branch that needs testing that teaches C apps how to respect {min|max}_spare_servers, like perl does (or is supposed to)
16:10 miker Dyrcona: yeah, there are def calls, but I thought we had fenced those off, and there was even a setting at one time to say "booking is not running, don't even try to use it"
16:10 Dyrcona lualaba: Also, I would keep <max_children> at or above 2 also.
16:11 lualaba i check and in most cases parameter is 15
16:11 lualaba <min_children>5</min_children>                     <max_children>15</max_children>
16:17 Dyrcona I'll give it a try next time I build a new branch on my development vm.
16:17 miker I had the advantage of helping senator with that particular feature. and dbwells was involved as well, I think...
16:18 Dyrcona lualaba: Yeah, those are defaults. I've found in some production environments they need to be higher.
16:19 Dyrcona lualaba: If you're testing/kicking the tires, you can probably drop most of the <max_children> settings.
16:19 lualaba 4 GB ram will be enough
16:19 Dyrcona I have numbers for how many drones are spawned on our production servers, but not for training or development.
16:19 lualaba tomorrow i will try increase nd after that will change settings
16:20 Dyrcona lualaba: 4GB is cutting it close with the database running on the same hardware.
16:20 lualaba this mean i should move DB  on another server?
16:21 Dyrcona It should work with the right tuning. If you don't want to test booking or acq, I'd out right disable those services.
16:21 miker lualaba: for production, almost certainly. or add a lot of CPU cores to the VM (if it's a VM)
16:21 lualaba yes it is VM
16:21 Dyrcona Oh, right. I would not run production on 4GB.
16:22 Dyrcona I use 6GB for development and I do run the database on is own server.
16:22 Dyrcona Granted, that database server also runs our training and other test databases.
16:23 Dyrcona What you need for production depends a lot on your size and how many transactions you do.
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16:23 lualaba Thank you for information i will try some of changes in opensrf.xml

Results for 2016-02-10

05:16 csharp @later tell bshum re: bug 1486592... I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be targeted for 2.10 as long as someone tests/signs off
05:16 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.
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06:52 bshum csharp: Sure, I had a feeling that would be the case, but since you put needstest on it, I assumed it was still work in progress of some sort. I just don't like bugs without a milestone cause they're harder to filter for.
07:46 csharp bshum: is there a better way than "needstest" to indicate "all this is waiting for is a test and signoff"?
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08:35 bshum csharp: "needstest" is the tag that is meant for bugs that require additional tests to be added, like unit test, pgTap, etc.
08:36 csharp bshum: ohhhhh
08:36 csharp ok - got it
08:36 bshum It doesn't mean test me, that's what "pullrequest" is for
08:36 csharp aha - okay - my bad
08:37 bshum No worries, at least I think that's what it means. Hopefully I haven't been using it wrong either.. :)
08:38 csharp I'm sure you're right about that
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09:38 kmlussier Ah, that explains things. I was perplexed as to why the new Concerto data needed a test. ;)
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09:42 tsbere kmlussier: To ensure that it is in fact the data that is expected! ;)
09:48 Dyrcona Thank you, Rhythmbox for sorting Vivaldi under A for Antonio.
10:44 pinesol_green maryj missed something.
10:47 Dyrcona So, it boils down to our production being affected by lp 1414112.
10:47 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1414112 in Evergreen 2.7 "Audience filter no longer searching blank spaces" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414112
10:47 Dyrcona I will test on training.
10:52 Dyrcona Yes, it is fixed on our training server which is running 2.9.1.
10:53 Dyrcona So, I can say, "fixed at our next update."
10:54 tsbere I get to be happy that I don't have to change the code I wrote that is involved. ;)
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12:56 jeffdavis I'm getting a perplexing error from a Perl live test I'm working on: Can't locate object method "create_actor_org_unit_setting" via package "OpenILS::Utils::CStoreEditor" at live_t/12-lp1533329-opt-in.t line 80.
12:56 jeffdavis http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/gitweb/?p=sitka/​evergreen.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/liv​e_t/12-lp1533329-opt-in.t;h=690167a;hb=4987b9d
12:57 Dyrcona jeffdavis: You need to either init CStoreEditor or the Fieldmapper or both.
12:58 jeffdavis Dyrcona: I think I am initializing CStoreEditor correctly:
12:58 jeffdavis my $e = new_editor(xact => 1);
16:09 tsbere current_copy is for "captured" and "pull list" lookup, basically. The hold copy maps cover opportunistic capture. I don't think prev_check_time should stay null, though...
16:10 dbs ahcm should be populated when hold_targeter is run, and ahr.prev_check_time should be set when hold_targeter is run too
16:10 JBoyer dbs opportunistic holds kind of run in reverse, because what you're checking is for holds at the location the item is returned to, not the location that owns it, etc. like the pull lists care about. (Still doesn't explain why that wasn't targeted though. :( )
16:10 dbs okay. I'll check on that in a future test when I have a few minutes
16:10 mmorgan dbs: one more shot in the dark - Did the hold specify mint_condition = true, and the copy mint_condition = false?
16:11 dbs But our circ staff have filed tons of tickets about books getting checked in, and then a few hours later they show up on the holds shelf pull list, rather than flagged at checkin time
16:11 dbs mmorgan: lemme see

Results for 2016-02-09

11:43 Dyrcona I mostly poke around with PgAdmin to see what's what.
11:43 lualaba_ same here :)
11:43 lualaba_ but i spent a lot of time
11:44 Dyrcona Also, I highly recommend having a test/development database set up so you don't break production.
11:44 Dyrcona Yes, it is time consuming.
11:44 lualaba_ what i need now is to know relations between tables
11:45 Dyrcona I think someone made a relational chart of the database once, but I could have hallucinated that.
12:43 Dyrcona The ones with the $9 by itself the value of $9 is the consortium shortname.
12:44 Dyrcona Some how, I don't think that is enough to make it show up, but I'll do a search before changing the flag.
12:45 Dyrcona And, I'm naturally logged in at the wrong library. :)
12:45 Dyrcona But, it's a good test anyway. :)
12:46 Dyrcona So, yep, the $9 MVC by itself doesn't do anything. The $u has to be there.
12:50 jeff were you hoping to use/abuse the feature to have some records that didn't have URIs show up somewhere?
12:50 jeff or just testing an edge case?
12:53 Dyrcona jeff: Just testing what it does in general.
12:53 * jeff nods
12:53 Dyrcona We have a couple buckets of electronic records that catalogers/reference staff want things done to, so I'm testing some of those things.
12:54 Dyrcona I'm not sure where the $9 MVC by itself comes, probably cataloging staff.
12:54 Dyrcona I've not mangled the records for real, yet. :)
12:54 Dyrcona Someone else was probably trying to get them to show up.
15:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1526547 Prevent bogus notes when adjusting lost/lod overdues - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=98477d3>
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16:08 berick kmlussier: re: bug 1474051 did you confirm your org unit table had more values before applying the patch?  that almost sounds like an install without the seed/test data installed.
16:08 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1474051 in Evergreen "Avoid storing partial credit card payment info" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474051
16:09 kmlussier berick: I'm using tsbere's script that merges the patch before the install. But I've done other installs today on the same machine without any problem. There's also other seed data in the tables.
16:12 berick kmlussier: grr, I see the problem.  base schema is missing a ","

Results for 2016-02-08

15:05 dbs which (at least in our 2.7-ish instance) defines title as "LEFT JOIN metabib.full_rec title ON r.id = title.record AND title.tag = '245'::bpchar AND title.subfield = 'a'::text"
15:06 dbs and once you work that out, you would need to then refresh the metabib.materialized_simple_record table
15:10 Stompro dbs, Thanks for the info.
15:10 dbs Stompro: I think that's right, anyway - you probably want to try on a test server first :)
15:13 JBoyer To zoom out even further, you'll want to look (in the IDL) at what your reporter is using: reporter.simple_record or repoter.super_simple_record. I haven't looked at what's used where yet, but rssr uses a materialized view built from a trigger on biblio.record_entry, while rsr is using a large multi-join view instead.
15:16 JBoyer Ok, they're both views, but rssr is just a simple select against reporter.materialized_simple_record.
15:16 dbs JBoyer: which is in turn built from rsr

Results for 2016-02-05

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06:57 chreeus jeff: I just ran a test of the UMS script and it's in random order each time too
06:57 chreeus so probably worth opening a master bug about needing EG to refactor code around Perl's hash randomization changes
07:36 JBoyer I'm finding Kroger's use of hydrophobic materials for their tea bags to be less amusing with each passing cup.
07:37 JBoyer (Rod Sterling)Imagine, if you will, teabags that float serenely atop the hot water within your mug, content to look out over the despair of their ruined, flavorless world.(/Rod Sterling)
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16:57 miker dbs: that was precisely my reaction when gmcharlt mentioned this new "fun" earlier :)
16:58 miker "didn't we deal with this for perl 5.8?!?!"
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17:30 kmlussier Stompro: In case you missed it, what bshum just said (reingest). We just came across that same thing earlier this week. Luckily, it was on a test system. :)
17:31 kmlussier Stompro: But I would advise you to look carefully at your icon definitions to see if there are others you want to do, so that you can cover them all with one reingest.
18:31 Stompro Thanks kmlussier, we need to fix an issue quick, so need to do it tonight.
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Results for 2016-02-04

06:35 jeff commit a5d2ba32
06:36 jeff maybe a working repo commit? i don't recall if pinesol_green reacts to those.
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06:44 kmlussier hmmmm
06:46 kmlussier chreeus: On bug 1541801, we noticed the same issue in the web client when we were testing Z39.50.
06:46 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1541801 in Evergreen "search fields in z39.50 sort in random order" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541801
06:47 kmlussier chreeus: I wonder if work on the web client caused the change in the xul client interface
07:02 chreeus kmlussier: that's our theory
07:03 bshum chreeus, jeff: right pinesol doesn't track working
07:04 bshum I think it was mostly a matter of avoiding double reporting since it would likely spit back master changes in both repos
07:05 bshum Never quite tested beyond that.
07:06 kmlussier Using working to look up commits would be useful. Getting an announcment every time somebody pushes a branch to working? Not so much.
07:06 bshum Hmm
07:10 bshum kmlussier: Well what would happen is that it would only announce master changes
07:18 pinesol_green bshum: evg-working (Evergreen-Working, branch: master)
07:18 pinesol_green bshum: opensrf (OpenSRF, branch: master)
07:18 pinesol_green bshum: sipserver (SIPServer, branch: master)
07:18 bshum I'm going to test an idea
07:18 bshum and try asking it to track another branch for announce
07:18 bshum if it works anyways
07:19 bshum @git repolist
07:19 pinesol_green bshum: evergreen (Evergreen, branch: master)
07:19 pinesol_green bshum: evg-working (Evergreen-Working, branch: master)
07:19 pinesol_green bshum: opensrf (OpenSRF, branch: master)
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09:44 JBoyer Dyrcona++
09:45 JBoyer Thanks for the help yesterday re: deadlocks, we were able to load 100K+ records in an hour or so in our test, migrations here are going to look at a lot different in the future.
09:45 JBoyer look a lot. I try not to look directly into the operational end of a migration in progress..
09:46 jeff JBoyer: ``Do not look into laser with remaining good eye.''
09:47 JBoyer I feel like I should know that, but it's not coming to me.
10:25 JBoyer Completely unrelated news: This morning I tracked down the application guide for a temp/humidity sensor I've been looking for and I haven't been this excited to play around with code since I was playing with OpenGL in my college dorm room.
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11:30 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1494486: Limit damage caused by dropped drone XMPP sockets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=5580724>
11:36 pinesol_green [opensrf|Jason Etheridge] LP#1474507: fix interval_to_seconds for weeks and seconds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=69cbe80>
11:36 pinesol_green [opensrf|Jason Etheridge] LP#1474507: tests for interval_to_seconds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=7a714ae>
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12:51 JBoyer Ah, makes sense.
13:12 pinesol_green [opensrf|Galen Charlton] LP#1350457: add test case for perl2JSONObject change - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=b6cf3eb>
13:12 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1350457: Pass caller's session to subrequests called via method_lookup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=e1581d4>
13:36 * chreeus wonders if the addition of UPC to the fields in commit 2038e93a caused weird sorting in bug 1541801
13:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1541801 in Evergreen "search fields in z39.50 sort in random order" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541801
13:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP#1519925 - Allow MARC Federated Search to search UPC index of local catalog. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2038e93>
14:35 yboston shoudl we make it an action item to have a DIG member check with the devs about what is productionr eady for 2.10?
14:36 remingtron I can't remember what gmcharlt (the release manager) said his goals were
14:36 remingtron but I think it was only circ desk use.
14:36 jihpringle will there be a web client test server for 2.10?  We're not planning to release the web client to our libraries until we make the final switch so it won't be part of our test server
14:36 jihpringle ^^ community web client test server for 2.10
14:38 remingtron Here's gmcharlt's "plan for 2.10":
14:38 remingtron #link http://georgialibraries.markma​il.org/thread/wlnvqe53umjjevae
14:38 yboston we can hope that the "webby" server would get updated for us to use
14:39 remingtron I think yes, someone should probably ask gmcharlt or whomever has power over webby
14:39 remingtron yboston++
14:40 jihpringle yboston++
14:40 gmcharlt well, it won't be webby, which is primarily for testing by the funding partners for the web staff client sprints, but we can update the ESI-hosted demo server to 2.10 closer in
14:40 yboston #action yboston will check in with 2.10 release manager (gmcharlt ) about havign Webby ready for us to use and confirmation of what is produciton ready in the web client
14:41 gmcharlt strike that action item, please, per my statement above
14:41 yboston damm I typed too slow
14:55 yboston or somethign along those lines
14:55 yboston thoughts?
14:55 sandbergja Sounds good to me
14:55 remingtron yboston: do we already have a test DIG server?
14:55 krvmga good idea.
14:55 yboston remingtron: it is not set up
14:55 gmcharlt indeed, that's available
14:59 dluch yboston++
14:59 jihpringle yboston++
15:00 Christineb yboston++
15:00 chreeus dbs: I'm creating a PG 9.3 test VM to test your implicit sorting theory - it sounds like it would explain everything
15:05 kmlussier yboston++
15:06 Stompro Stompro
15:06 * Stompro oops
15:16 chreeus kmlussier: is it 9.4?
15:16 jeff ah, see... i went with differing perl versions, didn't think about differing postgres versions. :-)
15:17 kmlussier chreeus; Nope 9.3.10
15:17 chreeus hmm
15:17 chreeus my non-random-sorting server is PG 9.3
15:18 chreeus 9.3.10
15:18 chreeus argh
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15:23 chreeus ok - gonna build a precise VM with PG 9.4 to test the perl version issu
15:23 chreeus e
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15:27 jeff chreeus: what are the perl versions in question?
15:27 jeff oh, i see you provided that elsewhere.
15:28 kmlussier chreeus: I'm updating the bug, but I was on 5.18.2 as well
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15:29 jeff Perl 5.18 introduced major changes in hashes, including changes that affect order.
15:29 jeff and randomization.
15:29 jeff see http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5180delta.html
15:30 jeff under "Hash overhaul"
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15:30 jeff iirc, we hit those changes with some tests, which needed to be adjusted slightly.
15:32 kmlussier I've updated the bug and now try remembering exactly what it was I was working on today.
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15:33 jlitrell An excellent time to interrupt you with exclusion checkboxes.  :-D
16:38 jeff my gut reaction to the idea is rather curmudgeonly.
16:39 jeff it might be possible, moreso now with the ability to fetch jackets by record id. i don't know if the receipt templates have been prevented from pulling remote images now or not.
16:46 jeff jihpringle: are you doing this in the self checkout interface with success?
16:46 jihpringle I just had a library tell me that they print out on the self check items out receipt
16:46 jihpringle I need to test myself to double check
16:48 jeff i'm curious if they're printing in greyscale on a receipt printer, or printing to a letter sized sheet on a laser/inkjet, black and white or color, etc.
16:52 jihpringle I'll do some testing and find out more details from the library
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Results for 2016-02-03

10:58 kmlussier Dyrcona: Nope
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11:00 Dyrcona OK. I plan to start up my precise vm to update the software, then maybe make a new vm for concerto.
11:00 Dyrcona I use the latter to test tarballs and run the perl and db tests.
11:03 Dyrcona BTW, I plan to finally release 2.9.2 on the 17th.
11:16 JBoyer I wonder how many users actually make use of wildcard searching, vs those that think that you really do have to search for M*A*S*H to find the DVD you want...
11:16 Dyrcona JBoyer: I'm going to build just master on my concerto vm to see if the grunt all command still fails.
11:31 kmlussier JBoyer: Does it work if you surround it in quotes?
11:32 Dyrcona I don't think I would enter MASH that way, and I usually search in lowercase, 'cause the shift key is hard. :)
11:32 kmlussier Actually, it works with and without quotes
11:33 JBoyer It's quicker with the quotes, but neither of my tests took 90+ seconds like the search that was in my log analyzer...
11:34 JBoyer I'm with Dyrcona, it just seems like such a tedious thing to type. What do these people say out loud?  "What are you looking for?" "Emm, star, aye, star, ess, star, aich."
11:34 kmlussier JBoyer: Yeah, I tried it on C/W MARS. The unquoted one was longer, but it wasn't terrible.
11:35 JBoyer My test was fine too, there must have been something else about when they searched, or the phase of the moon, etc.
11:36 JBoyer The person that searched for the entire copy/pasted contents of a Google Play book search page must have had some interesting ideas.
11:36 * Dyrcona should automate the prerequisite installation for OpensRF and Evergreen on his VMs. It will save time without typos.
11:37 * JBoyer knows a guy...
11:54 tsbere Stompro: Fair note, that is (obviously) a little dated, and doesn't take into account details like parts being flagged as deleted.
11:54 tsbere So if you have that code loaded there are adjustments that need to be made
11:55 Stompro I don
11:55 Dyrcona I think grunt test failed, but I'll try it manually in a bit.
11:56 Dyrcona It scrolls by so fast.
11:56 Stompro tsbere, I don't think that 2.8.4 has the parts deletion bits, no deleted field in biblio.monograph_parts here.
11:57 tsbere Stompro: Specifically, the "SELECT INTO existing_part id FROM... line would need to have "AND NOT deleted" added to the where clause when you do have the flag.
12:10 Dyrcona It stats with couldn't load egCoreWeb because of the above.
12:11 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Fresh checkout of master.
12:11 Dyrcona Fresh vm.
12:11 Dyrcona That happens with grunt test.
12:12 Dyrcona The test output is "this should parse the IDL"
12:14 gmcharlt Dyrcona: OK, I think I see what the problem is, one moment
12:14 berick if it's a new dependency, it may need to be added to the test manifest
12:15 gmcharlt ayup
12:17 gmcharlt Dyrcona: check the tip of collab/gmcharlt/webstaff-sprint2-sprint3-round2
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12:21 Dyrcona gmcharlt++ that resolves it.
12:21 Dyrcona Should I just cherry-pick that into master since it is a fix for a test?
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12:28 berick Dyrcona: +1 to cherry-pick
12:28 gmcharlt +1
12:29 gmcharlt Dyrcona++
12:29 Dyrcona breick++
12:29 Dyrcona berick++
12:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] webstaff: add angular-file-saver to test manifest - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e32a1d4>
12:35 csharp @karma breick
12:35 pinesol_green csharp: Karma for "breick" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
12:35 csharp @karma chreeus
13:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1499086 in Evergreen 2.9 "Slowness/timeout on loading bookbags in OPAC" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499086
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13:46 csharp new_glasses++
13:48 bshum jeffdavis: If as you're working through and see stuff that will be signed off or tested as part of 2.10 I would go ahead and update the bug
13:49 bshum Otherwise, it's just extra churn to update the milestone for work that may go unfinished and end up back on 2.next or later
13:51 * Dyrcona agrees with bshum.
13:51 jeffdavis Makes sense, thanks.
14:12 JBoyer Is anyone using the migration tools to load bibs in parallel? We're working on a local method because a single process isn't getting it done, but we're hitting deadlocks on occasion. I know there's src/extras/import/parallel_pg_loader.pl but I don't think it's ready to use as-is for the output of the migration tools.
17:14 gsams mmorgan: I appreciate it, I'd still be interested because it might be relevant for another library if nothing else
17:16 mmorgan ok will dig up the info tomorrow. Good night all!
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17:58 jeffdavis So I'm in the middle of writing a Perl live test for the opt-in feature.
17:58 jeffdavis One of the test steps is to opt in a patron with open-ils.actor.user.org_unit_opt_in.create.
17:59 jeffdavis I want to return to a "clean" state when the testing is done, so I need to delete the opt-in during my test.
18:00 jeffdavis But there's no method for deleting opt-ins, and I can't delete arbitrary records with something like json_query (it only does SELECT statments, IIRC).
18:00 jeffdavis So I'm thinking the easiest solution is just to add a new open-ils.actor.user.org_unit_opt_in.method to EG.
18:00 jeffdavis Which we ought to have anyway.
18:00 jeffdavis Here ends a case study in why tests are a Good Thing.
18:01 jeffdavis (a new open-ils.actor.user.org_unit_opt_in.delete method, that is)
18:08 dbwells jeffdavis: or pcrud?  (not familiar with the feature, just throwing it out there)
18:09 * dbwells is not familiar with opt-in.  He knows about pcrud :)
18:10 jeffdavis dbwells: pcrud ought to work, unless there's some reason live tests can't use it.
18:10 jeffdavis I just like the idea of tests giving me an excuse to add a new feature. :)
18:16 miker jeffdavis: pcrud or cstore should work fine in live tests
18:16 miker fwiw
18:16 dbwells Well, live tests can do about whatever they want, so even cstore's an option.
18:16 dbwells right :)
18:17 jeffdavis good to know
18:20 dbwells We've got plenty of CRUD methods hanging around in EG, so not a big deal, but if simple client access is something desirable, think of pcrud as a good way to _not_ add a new feature :)
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Results for 2016-02-02

08:22 Dyrcona pinesol_green: Got any laters for me?
08:22 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Have you confirmed your ISBN SPIDs with your service provider?
08:22 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
08:25 kmlussier Dyrcona: No laters, but gmcharlt mentioned last night that  collab/gmcharlt/webstaff-sprint2-sprint3-round2 is ready for testing.
08:36 Dyrcona OK. Looks like i use the round2 branch.
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08:38 jeff and we have reached the point in the morning where i wish i had a rolling packet capture on all SIP2 traffic.
14:37 tsbere May need some adjusting for you as I hardcoded a bib source or two in the bibs sans call numbers query
14:38 * tsbere has that (and some other things) running nightly for MVLC, though I think we have upped the period variable to 90 days instead of 30
14:39 kmlussier gsams: I just checked. Transferring items to volumes will delete the volume too if it's left empty.
14:40 gsams kmlussier++ #I appreciate the quick test!
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14:40 kmlussier gsams: I just happened to be in holdings maintenance when you asked the question. :)
14:41 tsbere I know empty volumes still crop up for us. Probably from failed creates and other things.
14:43 * jeff tries to sort out his feelings for call numbers like "DVD AVE RATED PG-13"
14:43 Bmagic_ yeah, lol
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14:46 kmlussier OK, everything looks okay on Dyrcona's test system. I think I'm ready to merge the sprint2/sprint 3 branch
14:47 kmlussier Thank you, cat, for hitting the Enter key before I was done.
14:47 tsbere kmlussier: The cat apparently thought it was a good place to stop.
14:47 kmlussier Does the branch need an LP bug before I merge it?
14:48 kmlussier tsbere: Yeah, he then hit All Caps afterwards, which is why it took me a while to pose my next question.
15:30 csharp and that's obviously not what the feature was built to accommodate
15:31 csharp yeah, I'll play with that in the short term
15:31 tsbere csharp: If you want standing penalties to generally be at the top level then set the depths to 0. I think that will generally work across the board.
15:31 csharp tsbere: cool - I'll do some testing
15:31 tsbere We set many of them that way, if you want to poke me on some of that
15:31 csharp thanks!
15:32 tsbere We also have some "System-level" versions that staff can set for more local issues (blocking another library's patron from their library, for example)

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09:44 kmlussier Dyrcona++ gmcharlt++
09:47 Dyrcona kmlusser: I might have to build a new branch after the rebase if you want to continue testing on my development system.
09:48 Dyrcona If that's the case, do you want to just load the sprint2-sprint3 branch, and maybe the patron editor branch?
09:53 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, that's fine. That's all I'm focusing on ATM
09:55 Dyrcona I could reload the database in the meantime, and probably should.
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10:16 Dyrcona kmlussier: Would want the hotkeys branch?
10:16 Dyrcona Should be a "you" in there somewhere.
10:17 kmlussier Dyrcona: I'll probably be testing that soon after the sprint2 branch goes in, so yes.
10:17 * kmlussier checks to see if there is even a pullrequest tag on that one.
10:18 kmlussier gmcharlt: Do you want a pullrequest on bug 1508477?
10:18 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1508477 in Evergreen "browser client: hotkeys don't work if an input element has focus" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508477
10:18 kmlussier It's worked very well in my testing on webby. Even if there is still work left to be done, it would be nice to have it in before 2.10
10:20 Dyrcona I can always add it again later.
10:21 gmcharlt kmlussier: sure
10:23 Dyrcona I just figured that I put the branch together with what's ready so I could run upgrade scripts before hand.

Results for 2016-01-29

09:00 kmlussier Dyrcona++
09:01 Dyrcona My hunch is that it will resolve lp 1538702 for you.
09:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1538702 in Evergreen "webclient: Double-clicking copy from holdings view doesn't always select copy" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538702
09:02 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yup.
09:03 * kmlussier goes off to test the most recent fixes before proceeding with her day.
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Results for 2016-01-28

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12:51 Dyrcona @decide make new test accounts or crack passwords on existing test accounts?
12:51 pinesol_green Dyrcona: go with crack passwords on existing test accounts?
12:56 RoganH Clearly that would take less time.  Or at least be less tedious.  One of those.
12:58 Dyrcona Assuming that the majority of the test accounts have four digits for the password, yes.
12:58 Dyrcona And by test account, I mean "not real patrons used for testing purposes."
13:02 Dyrcona And now, I apparently don't have to....
13:03 Dyrcona We apparently already sent this information, and I was just given the spread sheet that was sent previously.
13:03 Dyrcona Oh well, it could have been a "fun" way to spend the afternoon.
13:09 * tsbere cracked the passwords on a few thousand accounts just to test some code he provided to Dyrcona for possibly cracking existing accounts >_>
13:09 jeff yeah. it takes about 27ms to generate hashes for four digit pins.
13:09 jeff and that's with storing them in a temp table for reuse.
13:10 jeff for one, it's actually faster to skip the temp table.

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