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Results for 2017-01-04

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:34 sam_l Staff client, and thank you!
10:36 sam_l rhamby++
10:37 sam_l One of our branches just got new computers, and we wanted to give correct instructions to IT before they went to set them up.
10:42 csharp sam_l: from our scant testing, Windows 10 works fine
10:44 Dyrcona It works fine on our Windows 10 thin clients.
10:45 csharp I would actually predict better performance based on everything I know about Windows 10 (which isn't a whole lot)
10:49 sam_l Thanks. I passed the info on.
14:52 kmlussier phasefx: Was Eva planning to attend too? I see her name is on the agenda.
14:53 phasefx kmlussier: I hadn't heard from her
14:54 Nawjo Kmlussier, Great!
14:54 bshum Like are the records primarily in english, but they have translated arabic strings for things like title, etc.
14:54 bshum I've seen that before for other language records like chinese, etc.
14:55 bshum I'd love to get some sample records to append to Concerto for future testing, actually.... hmm....
14:55 Dyrcona Georgian records are quite pretty....
14:55 Dyrcona I can't read it, but the script is nice.
14:56 kmlussier OK, poll for scheduling the meeting next week is at http://doodle.com/poll/esxgzfum2cwkbv7v

Results for 2017-01-03

00:13 chatter allah is doing
00:13 chatter sun is not doing allah is doing
00:13 chatter to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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12:38 berick JBoyer: upgrade went OK?
12:40 JBoyer Splendidly. From a 2.9 to 2.11 db in less than 10 minutes. (not counting the pingest, of course) Would have been even better had I not just overlaid 2M+ records and caused so much table bloat that I almost ran the volume out of space last night. :/
12:41 JBoyer Still working on mitigating that but things aren't dire anymore.
12:41 csharp JBoyer++
12:42 csharp JBoyer: 10 minutes!? my test runs have taken 2-3 hours
12:42 csharp 2.9.1 - 2.11.1
12:42 JBoyer Had we it to do over again, we probably wouldn't have made a lot of noise about the email receipt feature because no one realized it didn't work with the XUL client. Might have to see how hard it is to wedge in there later. :/
12:43 csharp (we're upgrading over MLK weekend)
12:44 JBoyer I had several thousand lines worth already in our db because I wrote them. ;) (Also, the reingest took bloody ages but I don't generally count that since you can spin services back up while that's running.)
12:45 csharp reingest (pingest.pl with 16 children, batches of 10K) took about 36 hours in my test run
12:47 JBoyer Oh, yes, and as far as our highly misaligned ccvm and ccaed tables, I cloned them from a fresh stock db and replaced everything with an id < 10000 pre-reingest. Now all of our translations line up and we won't have to special case every single new locale or es-ES update that comes along.
12:49 JBoyer csharp, if there's enough time before we "open" again I'll let pingest burn through 35 out of 40 cores. It still only hits a load of around 20 but I don't want to risk it getting too much closer to 40 in case things start taking more oomph than expected..
12:52 csharp hmm - we have 64 cores, so maybe I should up the child count
14:11 jeff well, the good news there might be that moving these two affected workstations to a newer client might help. i think they're still running a 2.7 build that works by virtue of a server-side symlink.
14:11 jeff (or it's not really the OS after all)
14:11 berick fwiw i'm not using a community build, i'm using a custom script that does pretty much the same thing
14:11 JBoyer I didn't see that either with my (admittedly limited) testing on my mac over the weekend. I also may not be packaging the latest "supported" version of XULRunner in my package, which one was included in the client that had the disappearing menubar?
14:14 jeff according to Contents/Frameworks/XUL.framework/Versions in each app bundle, the 2.7 and 2.10 apps i have handy are both 14.0.1
14:18 JBoyer I can't really check until almost 5 or 6, but I'm curious if a different version would have an effect on the transparent background problem even if it turns out this issue is something local.
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16:51 Dyrcona You're probably correct.
16:51 Dyrcona I'll have to look at it some more tomorrow.
16:51 Dyrcona I'm not having any issues, just comparing configurations across twenty some odd servers. :)
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Results for 2017-01-02

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15:35 Dyrcona And, I think I fixed two bugs with one branch! :)
15:37 JBoyer Good to hear someone's having some luck today. :)
16:25 miker JBoyer: iirc, email checkout receipts only happen in built-in selfcheck and the web client, not xul... but on my phone without code to check ATM
16:42 JBoyer miker, Looking over the specs finally that sounds more likely. If it works in the web client maybe we can use that as an incentive to get more testing done here.
16:43 JBoyer I must have assumed it was generic rather than based on interface
16:49 JBoyer The release notes are also a bit too vague to be helpful re: where this works.
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18:00 Dyrcona Just popping to say: It works! :)
18:02 Dyrcona Fixed 3 bugs in two branches.

Results for 2017-01-01

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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12:58 Dyrcona Happy New Year, #evergreen!
12:59 * Dyrcona just requested a PAUSE id as my first act of the new year.
12:59 Dyrcona You'd probably think that I had one already.
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Results for 2016-12-31

05:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:53 Dyrcona dbs++ # My new identifier field for 020$a is being populated in testing.
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Results for 2016-12-30

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14:04 JBoyer Happy new year's Evergreen, see you on the other side of the sun and our upgrade.
14:14 rjackson_isl Jboyer++
14:15 Dyrcona JBoyer++
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Results for 2016-12-29

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16:52 mixo I have enabled autosuggestion of search, but suggestion appears only for English titles
16:57 mixo but I want to it to appear for russian too.
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Results for 2016-12-28

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09:38 jvwoolf Hi everybody! I'm trying to add a new page to our OPAC. It's working in test, but I have to sign in to view it. I've scoured the docs, but I can't figure out how to make it public. Any tips?
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09:46 Dyrcona jvwoolf: I think that's largely a function of where you put the file.
09:46 tsbere jvwoolf: You will need to edit the TPAC perl code to add your page before the auth check
10:57 jvwoolf OK, that's where I edited it.
10:58 Dyrcona And, that's what I thought....You'll want to make a copy of that file and make a diff of the changes or you'll lose them at the next upgrade.
10:58 Dyrcona If you run bricks, you'll need to update it on every brick, too.
10:59 jvwoolf Ahh. Gotcha.
10:59 jvwoolf I'm only doing this in test at the moment.
10:59 Dyrcona OK, but for production, I'd recommend doing as tsbere suggests and making the change in the source and then copying the final version into place.
11:00 Dyrcona Git really helps with managing little changes like this, too.
11:02 jvwoolf I've got it now. Thank you.
14:35 miker I'll see if I can find a minute to look a that later today
14:48 miker _bott_: I think http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/he​ads/user/miker/aclg-cdbi-for-badges will help you...
14:52 _bott_ ah, makes sense.  I'll give it a whirl.
16:00 mmorgan I'm looking at the 2.11 SIP feature that treats location as workstation. I'm not getting it to work on our test system.
16:01 mmorgan I can make connections and perform transactions, but the location isn't being recognized as the workstation.
16:01 mmorgan Any ideas?
16:03 mmorgan Also tried adding the location_code to the config file for the staff user and that's not working either.
16:05 tsbere mmorgan: Just to be sure, did you make sure that both Evergreen and SIPServer are up to date?
16:09 mmorgan Yes, I checked Sip.pm and SIPServer.pm, both are up to date.
16:11 tsbere and you either defined client_location_code as "true" for the institution block (passing in a valid workstation name in the login step) or location_code to a valid workstation name?
16:40 mmorgan Hmm. Still no luck. Will need to revisit this tomorrow
16:41 mmorgan tsbere++
16:41 mmorgan Thanks for the suggestions.
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Results for 2016-12-27

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Results for 2016-12-26

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11:43 berick @marc 100b
11:43 pinesol_green berick: unknown tag 100b
11:44 berick @marc 100 b
12:12 berick guessing that's a side-effect of using the same data for bib-2-auth and auth-2-auth maps
12:31 berick ... and multiple bib fields
12:34 * berick ponders the implications of synchronizing authority_control_fields.pl with authority control sets over a bowl of holiday gruel.
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Results for 2016-12-25

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Results for 2016-12-23

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Results for 2016-12-22

05:02 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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14:03 * tsbere goes and looks, finding Dyrcona's description to be good enough
14:04 tsbere I considered responding with something like "Well, that depends. I can describe how to make it work in any of the ways described". <_<
14:05 Dyrcona Yes....I deleted a paragraph or two about seeing me at the conference for the gory details, and about waking up in the middle of the night screaming, "Cthulh Ftaghn!" if you try to get fancy. :)
14:06 * tsbere came up with a few very convoluted setups for testing purposes at one point
14:07 tsbere Including one "apply this rule to this user group, but not to the child group" that depended on circ fallthrough, the limits sets *not* having fallthrough, and a couple other things
14:08 Dyrcona Yeah, I didn't want to go there, though I didn't think about the possibility of different limits for different user groups when writing the email.
14:09 tsbere Basically I went for "what is the most convoluted thing I think this can do based on the documentation I just made for it?" and then tried to make it work. And did. ;)
14:10 Dyrcona I mean, you could add a matchpoint so that one library's checkout limit applies while the other's circ rules apply, but why would you do that?
14:10 Dyrcona Heh.
14:10 Dyrcona Sometimes, it is good to test the limits.
14:13 JBoyer tsbere, Dyrcona, Am I remembering correctly that one of you had a query that would look at config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and somehow display the weights that each row would result in? I'm - considering - something for the conference and that would be a big help.
14:14 tsbere I think we have a couple of things that could do that
14:14 Dyrcona JBoyer: It even produces an XLSX workbook!
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Results for 2016-12-21

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14:16 Dyrcona Heh.
14:16 Dyrcona It's on our RADAR to fix it, soonish.
14:16 Dyrcona I don't think it would be very difficult the required info is there.
14:17 jeff i tried, but once the vendor making the spec stated that they had no way to handle the spec and stated that they would prefer unformatted text, it was a bit of a losing battle / argument to spend more time on it, especially since i had nothing to then test with :P
14:17 Dyrcona Just a matter of do you prefer the 3M format or the Envisionware format.
14:17 * Dyrcona sympathizes. :)
14:21 Dyrcona OK. Back to acq... I think I'll peruse the fund transfer code to see what it looks like I need to do.
14:31 Dyrcona Anyway, good comments on acq.transfer_fund().
14:52 Dyrcona So, it looks like the easiest thing would be to do what jihpringle suggested and just transfer the money back.
15:11 Dyrcona Awesome sauce!
15:12 Dyrcona I have a test db with a dump from last week loaded and I found a similar transfer from an inactive fund to an active one that I can try this out on.
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15:41 rjackson_isl gotta love circs with due dates manually entered for beginning of 2016 and items getting marked Lost with max fines accrued the night of the circ :(
15:44 Dyrcona :)
16:49 Dyrcona You just want to say, "So why tell me about it, then?"
16:49 Dyrcona 'Nix guys..... ;)
16:51 Dyrcona Well, I'm heading home. TTYT!
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17:13 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1651808: avoid a class of intermittent search failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f67b07b>
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17:44 jeff i really shouldn't be thinking about the ability to merge copies.

Results for 2016-12-20

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
06:48 csharp bug 1639782
06:48 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1639782 in Evergreen "Add Active Date to Item Status (F5) Columns" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639782
06:51 csharp bug 1360347
15:27 JBoyer That explains it. There are some TPAC functions that were translated (quant() -> cuant()) so all searches crash by default unless they return 0 results. :/
15:27 kmlussier _bott_: What version of OpenSRF are you running?
15:27 _bott_ 2.4.1
15:28 JBoyer Wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing something specific to our test install. ( _bott_ running a heavily custom skin wouldn't see it)
15:30 kmlussier _bott_: OK, never mind. There is an issue with 2.5 OpenSRF alpha that causes problems with all imports.
15:30 Dyrcona kmlussier: Is that the chunking code?
15:31 kmlussier _bott_: Generally, when I see a problem with loading records at PO activation, it's because one of the loading options isn't checked off. You need to have something checked both for non-matching records and for records that match.
15:31 Dyrcona Thanks. That's what I thought.
15:32 Dyrcona Just wondered if there might be something else.
15:32 _bott_ Not seeing anything obvious.  The call to purchase_order.assets.create just never happens.
15:36 bmills JBoyer: setting that up on the test server required changing cuant to quant, like you mentioned. but after that it seems to be working fine. The "cuant" bit I changed —>  http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.g​it;a=blob;f=build/i18n/po/tpac/es-ES.po#l97. had to change the various es-ES.po's in the locale folders to reflect that. i think i checked the logs since the search would cause a 500 error and realized it was anytime the
15:38 JBoyer bmills, yeah, that's what I'm seeing; I'll throw something up on LP if it's not there already. I've got another - much less stressful - translation bug to file also. (Cat: -> Gato: in the LSE...)
15:38 JBoyer bmills, Also, you got cut off at "realized it was anytime the"
15:39 bmills JBoyer: whoops! yeah, anytime the page was showing "x of x copies available" it bombed
15:59 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1117808 in Evergreen "Merge and Overlay Functions should use Merge Profiles" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1117808 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
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16:30 jeff it's a pcap kind of day.
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17:13 Bmagic Can the Evergreen reporting engine find marc records that lack a certain marc tag?
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21:14 jeff i have abused the metabib schema in a way similar to what you describe, but i can't recall if i made it work within the reporter long ago. most recently, sql.

Results for 2016-12-19

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11:46 Dyrcona berick: I know what you mean about OpenJFX being finicky. I've been doing some tutorials and examples and some things don't quite work in OpenJDK, at least not on Ubuntu 16.
11:47 Dyrcona berick: Anything specific that stands in the way of using with Hatch?
11:55 berick Dyrcona: the only thing I had issues with was the javafx stuff.  don't recall exactly what is was, though
12:02 Dyrcona berick: OK. I'll see if I can do some testing in the future. I've had issues with some cosmetic things, but I've not tried printing or anything like that.
12:04 berick thanks.  i'll also make a point of testing openjdk and collecting more data
12:05 csharp oracle--
12:05 csharp oracle--
12:05 csharp oracle--
12:06 csharp I remember testing openjdk and seeing the javafx problems, but I don't remember specifics
12:07 berick csharp: you'd think owning an island would be enough
12:07 csharp ... but here is the chat log: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2015-06-10#i_181217
12:08 csharp berick: seriously
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16:43 * dbs does credential-splitting across browsers like phasefx and Dyrcona
16:47 Dyrcona It's just easier that way than changing users all the time.
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17:02 Dyrcona Time to go!
17:18 Bmagic Can you put more than one email address in actor.usr.email_address?
17:18 Bmagic Just a wild guess, but I am thinking "no" is the answer

Results for 2016-12-18

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15:18 wsmoak as a patron, when I add a book to a reading list, there is no indication that it worked or not.
15:19 wsmoak This is on gapines.org, I can't tell what version of Evergreen it's based on, so I wasn't sure if I should report it in the bug tracker.
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19:41 csharp wsmoak: PINES is on 2.9 (upgrading to 2.11 over MLK weekend)
19:53 wsmoak thanks!  I didn't find anything in the tracker.  I'm not sure how to tell if this has been reported/fixed already.  basically when looking at the record for a book, if you hover over "Add to my list" (on the right) and then move down and click a previously-created list... the page blinks but there's no confirmation message.  I keep going to look at the list
19:53 wsmoak to make sure it was added.

Results for 2016-12-17

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Results for 2016-12-16

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09:16 Dyrcona And none of the parent groups have any permissions assigned.
09:17 mmorgan If your users don't have secondary groups, then it's probably not your issue.
09:18 Dyrcona But we don't have more than 1 group assigned.
09:18 krvmga i just did the opposite test from the previous one: i logged in as myself on a client where the user wasn't seeing the library dropdown list; saw it as me; didn't see it as the other user.
09:19 Dyrcona krvmga: Thanks, again. ;)
09:19 krvmga same permission group; network administrator
09:19 mmorgan ok. It would be interesting to see what happens if you were to remove the extra permissions from the users seeing the problem.
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10:47 Dyrcona tsbere: Turned out to be an org_unit was changed yesterday for testing. It was assigned an ou_type with the wrong depth when testing was done.
10:47 Dyrcona Why this did not break the list for everybody is beyond me.
10:50 tsbere Dyrcona: I assume it is in part due to work ous. How many of the people it was broken for were logged into or assigned their work OU at/below that org unit versus not at/below it?
10:50 Dyrcona That's a good question. krvmga changed his ous after I last looked. I'm pretty sure that I could work at this ou. I'll check where the others can/can't work.
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17:26 StomproJ jonadab, is this in reference to my web meeting software question?

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09:26 Dyrcona A rough guess is it's taking 15 seconds to process a record on my test db system.
09:44 miker Dyrcona: is your slow query stock, or a local thing?
09:44 Dyrcona miker: It's a local thing.
09:44 Dyrcona tsbere gave me a suggestion of how I might use a tsquery to speed it up.
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17:34 bshum Failure?  NOOOOO
17:35 bshum Jabber problem in the test :(
17:35 bshum At least the rest looks okay
17:35 * bshum wanders off to find his dinner
17:39 berick sounds like a self-help book... Find Your Dinner
17:39 berick @band add Your Inner Dinner
17:39 pinesol_green berick: Fire BAD! Reading GOOD!

Results for 2016-12-14

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15:03 Dyrcona I am assuming that it worked. :)
15:08 Dyrcona It must work, right? The default includes an entry for BR1. :)
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15:28 jason___ I just ran all the "Starting Evergreen" stuff and got it to work, "testing connections" failed the first time, but worked after a reboot. Two questions: Do I need to manually start Evergreen after every boot with the default configuration? And can I now connect with a client app?
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15:44 dbs Dyrcona: yup we have all kinds of Z39.50 targets in oils_z3950.xml, supporting the search of various individual branches and systems
15:45 Dyrcona dbs: Thanks! I was pretty sure it would work.
15:59 jason___ Dyrcona  Got it, thank you
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17:08 mmorgan kmlussier: At least you got that email sent!
17:08 berick the sun'll come up.. tomorrow

Results for 2016-12-13

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11:34 Dyrcona And, funny thing about the link error, I don't really need cstore compiled on this machine, 'cause I don't plan to run services. I'm just installing for some of the libs.
11:39 Dyrcona Weird. Is this just a problem with 32-bit systems? 'Cause I didn't have this problem on the 64-bit vm.
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11:40 bshum It wouldn't surprise me
11:40 bshum We haven't tested 32-bit installs with Evergreen in a long time...
11:40 bshum At least I haven't
11:40 bshum And there were problems the last times we had anyone try it
11:42 Dyrcona It's right there: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dbd/libdbdpgsql.so
11:42 Dyrcona Thing is, I don't need this. I just wanted some of the Perl libs that I use in some scripts and they don't depend on that.
11:42 Dyrcona However, we have no flags to disable building the services.
11:52 Dyrcona Bingo! We have a winner!
11:55 Bmagic What do we have for him Jonny? It's a NEW CAR!
11:56 Dyrcona heh! Now, I hear the music in my head.
12:01 Jason_ Question: I'm installing evergreen on a test server (ubuntu-trusty) and I've encountered an issue with opensrf configuration > Websockets installation. The git clone does not contain the example configuration file "examples/apache_24/websockets/apache2.conf" listed in the instructions. Any ideas? Or should I skip it for now as websockets are optional?
12:01 bshum Jason_: The example config file is in the opensrf source files
12:01 bshum Not in the git clone for websockets
12:02 bshum That instruction is getting updated in a future release to be more clear I think.
15:42 * bshum keeps musing to himself
15:43 Bmagic yeah, I agree, and because the system is running fine right now....
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09:48 Dyrcona phasefx: I was just perusing the slides from your 2014 conference presentation with Denish, and I have a question about the postgres settings.
09:49 Dyrcona phasefx: Are they just what you recommend for testing? Some of them look like they would be good for regular use, too.
09:54 phasefx Dyrcona: I don't remember what I presented on, but I imagine the Postgres part was Denish.  I don't have any particular expertise with tuning Postgres :(
09:54 Dyrcona OK. Thanks.
09:55 Dyrcona To jog your memory, it was about Quality Assurance.
09:55 phasefx ah, cool, thanks
09:57 Dyrcona I'm tuning postgres for a development/testing server this morning, and I was looking for recommendations on the evergreen-ils.org site your presentation came up.
10:02 kmlussier Dyrcona: Did you look at the report OmniTI did? I don't know if the recommendations there are the same as what was included in the presentation, but the report recommendations were definitely for production. https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=dev:testing:performance_report
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10:04 Dyrcona Apart from connection pooling and specific query changes, there's nothing much useful in that report.
10:05 Dyrcona I'm doing the postgresql settings by hand, because no more pgtune.
11:29 Dyrcona Oh, right!
11:29 Dyrcona That's why they're not listed.
11:30 * Dyrcona forgot that detail.
11:30 dbs yeah. if I can figure out the condition that's triggering it during holds processing, then maybe I can reproduce it and write a test and then fix it
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11:40 dbs Dyrcona: I think the 25% ratio simply ends up being way too high for modern servers with tens of gigabytes of RAM and paradoxically can slow things down
11:40 dbs The 25% rule of thumb was developed when servers had about as much RAM as phones do today
11:41 Dyrcona dbs: Thanks. I can see that making sense.
11:42 Dyrcona Yeah, the only time actual RAM numbers are mentioned in the docs, it's on the order of 512MB to 1GB.
11:42 Dyrcona I guess the PostgreSQL wiki could use an update. :)
15:43 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1432753 in Evergreen "Closed Dates Editor does not display the "All Day" verbiage" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432753
15:43 dbs I'm not going to try touching the locale stuff though :)
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15:53 jason_ Hi, dumb question. I'm setting up a test evergreen install on Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) and I'm stuck on the opensrf installation
15:53 bshum jason_: Well, if you're using OpenSRF 2.4.1, there isn't a makefile target for xenial
15:54 bshum So that would fumble the start of the process with the initial prerequisite installation
15:54 bshum But, what's your question?
15:54 bshum :)
15:54 jason_ That must be it, that's what I'm getting
15:54 jason_ Should I be using an earlier opensrf?
15:55 bshum Xenial support is only in the 2.5-alpha and master OpenSRF presently (so newer actually), but perhaps if it's not too late, I might suggest trying things out with Ubuntu 14.04 instead.
15:55 bshum That's the more widely tested Ubuntu version at the moment.
15:56 jason_ That's fine, I'll try it with ubuntu 14, thanks for your help!
15:56 bshum No problem, good luck jason_!
15:56 jason_ I appreciate it :)
16:13 Dyrcona If you're installing on xenial, I recommend using git and using the master branch from both OpenSRF and Evergreen.
16:13 Dyrcona The next releases should support xenial: Evergreen 2.12 and OpenSRF 2.5.
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16:14 jason_ I switched to trusty, this is just a test install on a cloud server to see if it will work for a project
16:15 Dyrcona OK. That should work.
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16:50 mixo how can i change "minimum transit checkin interval"
16:55 phasefx mixo: hi.  You mean, where to find the setting?  It's under Admin -> Local Admin -> Library Settings in the staff client
17:00 mixo thank you
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17:01 mixo when i try to abort transit it goes to "canceld transit" state
17:01 mixo is this normal ?
17:02 mmorgan mixo: Yes, as of 2.11

Results for 2016-12-11

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17:31 dbs @later tell mixo If you have a lot of bib records, it can take forever; you'll probably want to use pingest.pl to do a parallel reingest of the bib records instead (http://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=jason/evergreen_u​tilities.git;a=blob_plain;f=perl/pingest.pl)
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Results for 2016-12-09

00:38 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: LP1268054 add patron purchase request doc - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=18c0241>
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15:40 berick DPearl: before I answer that.. do you have access to the admin account on this system?
15:40 berick if so, does it work as expected for admin?
15:40 Dyrcona Yeah. You might be limited in choices if you're not logging in as admin.
15:40 * Dyrcona almost always uses admin for testing so didn't think of that right away.
15:41 DPearl berick: Yes.  I think that is the clue to what is up.  I logged in as admin and I just saw CONS.  Now I'm logged in as some random librarian at BR1.  That has to be why it is not showing me the tree.
15:41 berick Dyrcona: same here
15:42 berick DPearl: ok, good
16:19 * Dyrcona builds a xul client to see what it does.
16:20 berick Dyrcona: apparently there's code in there to handle that..suppose it's not working anymore
16:20 Dyrcona OK.
16:20 berick not saying you shouldn't open the bug
16:20 berick just fwiw i see disable-test="cant_have_users" on the org selector
16:21 Dyrcona Gotcha. I'll bet that is what is preventing me from removing the registration in the clent.
16:21 Dyrcona I'll play with it.
16:22 Dyrcona Can I change that in the Chrome inspector or is it too late?
16:25 berick ignore that
16:43 Dyrcona I'll see what I can figure out and open Lp bug.
16:43 Dyrcona Signing off for now.
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12:25 Dyrcona Visual cues like color might work, say use a background or highlight color if xact_finish is set and the status was lost or whatevs?
12:26 Dyrcona But anyway, I'm supposed to be eating lunch, and it's hard not to eat at your desk when your desk is the dining room table. :)
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12:40 jeffdavis So, I asked about this a while back but most folks were en route to the hackaway...
12:41 jeffdavis For ebook API integration (bug 1541559), I'd like to have a test module so that we can test the UI and services without requiring connections to actual third-partry APIs like Overdrive's.
12:41 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1541559 in Evergreen "OneClickdigital API integration" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541559 - Assigned to Jeff Davis (jdavis-sitka)
12:44 jeffdavis The design is kind of like added content, where there's a main module and different handler submodules for each vendor.  The test module would be just another handler module.
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12:45 Dyrcona jeffdavis: Sound like what SIPServer does.
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12:45 Dyrcona There's a dummy "ILS" implementation in the SIPServer code to use for testing.
12:46 jeffdavis That's encouraging. :)
12:47 jeffdavis I'm reluctant to hard-code test data into the module itself, though, but I'm not sure how else to go about it (since I don't want to create an entire HTTP service just for testing purposes).
12:47 Dyrcona jeffdavis: The test data for SIPServer is hard coded, so I don't think that's a problem, really.
12:48 Dyrcona You'd want to test against known values anyway, right?
12:48 Dyrcona I assume you're testing: I make this API call, I get this result.
12:48 jeffdavis Yeah.
12:49 Dyrcona Well, that sounds fine to me.
12:49 Dyrcona Do the vendors have ways to test their APIs?
12:50 Dyrcona But I imagine you might need an account in order to test properly.
12:51 jeffdavis That's my assumption, but I'm not sure yet - trying to find a contact to broach the question at Overdrive, and I've had problems getting responses from Oneclick lately.
12:51 Dyrcona Well, any tests are better than none.
12:51 Dyrcona tests++
12:51 Dyrcona jeffdavis++
12:52 Dyrcona Though, I suppose tests that just return PASS aren't very useful. :)
12:53 jeffdavis Well, I'd want the tests to include some requests that are expected to fail in various ways.
12:53 Dyrcona Yeah, we have a few in the Perl tests that pass by failing.
12:54 jeffdavis Having a test module that works with stock test data would also let folks try the UI.
12:59 Dyrcona jeffdavis: I honestly don't think anyone would object.
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13:01 jeffdavis yeah, I'll just proceed with the hard-coding approach - thanks!
15:52 Bmagic JBoyer - you're right
15:53 Bmagic The lineinfile works because the container is presicely the same 100% of the time
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