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Results for 2013-09-26

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01:05 Dyrcona Insomnia is a many splintered thing.
01:06 Dyrcona @later tell bshum It works. The missing 4 records had no copies. If I don't use the --items option I get the full 8,755 bibs in my test.
01:06 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
01:07 Dyrcona @later tell bshum It might work for immediate purposes, but I don't like it. I'm going to redesign it as a real module, probably under OpenILS::Utils.
01:07 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
08:37 Dyrcona kmlussier: Do you need my dev vm today?
08:39 kmlussier Dyrcona: That's right. You're rebuilding the VM today. To be honest, I'm really busy today. Do you think it will be ready tomorrow?
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08:42 Dyrcona kmlussier: Not tomorrow. I want to load our production branch for a final migration test.
08:45 kmlussier Dyrcona: OK, don't worry about it then. I'm good. :)
08:46 Dyrcona All righty, then....
08:46 Dyrcona :)
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09:14 kmlussier dbwells: Just as a point of information for bug 1211473. I tested it yesterday and it looked pretty good to me. I was going to add a sign-off to csharp's sign-off, but I ran out of time.
09:14 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1211473 in Evergreen "Setting to disable payment by patron credit" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211473 - Assigned to Dan Wells (dbw2)
09:15 dbwells kmlussier: thanks for the verbal sign-off, will push shortly
09:15 dbwells kmlussier++
11:41 eeevil I'll push 2.4.1-2.4.2 into master asap
11:43 eeevil sorry about that ... fall out of the lingering 2.4.2 release process.
11:44 senator csharp: how goes it on 1214464 ?
11:44 phasefx once we get bug 1206531 merged, I'd like to subscribe pinesol_green to http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/   A run from yesterday is here: http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live​/archive/2013-09-26_17:25:56/test.html
11:44 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1206531 in Evergreen "perl-based tests against stock test data on running system" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206531
11:44 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Push the 2.4.2 inter-version upgrade script forward - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2d7c6d4>
11:45 senator csharp: just let me know if i can be helpful on that
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11:46 csharp senator: I got stuck in the weeds of creating a good example of "see also" data - mainly because I'm not actually familiar with the format of authorities data
11:53 dbwells bug #1214464 already has two signoffs
11:53 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1214464 in Evergreen "Bi-directional authority enhanced bib browse" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214464
11:53 dbwells It's just way over my head.
11:54 yboston concerning 1065378  (UPC added content) I am about to load some bibs to my test branch VM. I may need 30 more minutes tops
11:55 dbwells I'll probably push it in even without another party giving it a thumbs up, but I'd rather not if someone is still looking at it.
11:55 dbwells ^^ authority enhancements that is
11:55 csharp dbwells: I'm looking at it right now
11:55 kmlussier csharp: I sent a sample authority record that may or may not help. It's one I used when testing the original bib browse work.
11:55 kmlussier That is, I sent it via e-mail.
11:56 dbwells csharp: ok, thanks, that's what I wanted to know.  I know you were poking it earlier.
11:56 csharp kmlussier: thanks!
11:56 * Dyrcona goes to lunch, and yes, I'm actually going out of the office for a change.
11:56 jeff Dyrcona: enjoy!
11:57 dbwells remingtron is actively attempting to test #1071423, but it's a pretty complex.  Anybody have any opinion on that, good or bad?
11:57 bshum lp 1071423
11:57 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1071423 in Evergreen "Floating should be more flexible than an on/off" (affected: 6, heat: 30) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071423
11:57 * bshum is lazy
11:57 bshum Ah
11:59 dbwells okay, as long as all three branches are being actively tested as we speak, they can go in after noon.  Thanks, everybody!  Are there any other lonely branches needing last minute attention?
12:00 csharp posting here for later investigation: 'TypeError: obj.active_services is undefined' alert box appears when entering z39.50
12:00 bshum dbwells: Before I hit up ac-by-record-id I'm just sneaking in lp 1231523 for senator
12:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1231523 in Evergreen "Fix a small floating issue on the OPAC login page" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231523
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12:01 dbwells bshum: bug fixes can always come later, no problem
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12:01 phasefx dbwells: how about "tests", can they go in later?
12:01 kmlussier dbwells: I did some limited testing of 1071423 a few weeks ago. What I saw look good, but have to admit my testing wasn't as thorough as I would have liked.
12:02 kmlussier I agree. It is fairly complext.
12:02 * kmlussier can't type.
12:03 gmcharlt actually, that looks like a useful new word -- just need to set on its precise meaning
12:03 graced heh, I was just about to say the same thing
12:04 dbwells phasefx: I don't see why not, unless they require some kind of fundamental changes.
12:04 phasefx dbwells: an extra make target is the riskiest change I can think of (not risky at all)
12:05 dbwells phasefx: that is, new tests are fine, new test hooks or infrastructure, depends.  That's probably just common sense.
12:05 phasefx dbwells: oh, also maybe a pre-req addition
12:06 dbwells phasefx: then forget it! ;)
12:06 * phasefx is thinking about lp 1206531   durn :)
12:06 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1206531 in Evergreen "perl-based tests against stock test data on running system" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206531
12:07 phasefx no pre-reqs
12:07 phasefx an extra-sub in an existing perl module
12:08 dbwells kmlussier: regarding 1071423, are you fairly confident it at least doesn't break anything?
12:09 csharp ok
12:09 eeevil that points at the cooking one
12:10 csharp gotcha
12:12 kmlussier dbwells: I was able to do checkouts and checkins. I tested checkins on non-floating items as well as floating ones, and they went to the branch that they were supposed to go. So, in that sense, it didn't break anything.
12:12 dbwells kmlussier: thank you
12:12 kmlussier I guess I would say where I lacked thoroughness was in testing more floating use cases.
12:12 kmlussier I only tested one.
12:13 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] OPAC: on the login page, Make "Questions?"/"FAQs" areas not float weird - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=42e8c33>
12:13 kmlussier eeevil: What should happen if csharp searched for Cuisine? I just want to make sure I'm understanding the functionality correctly.
12:15 eeevil kmlussier: sorry, I was digging into something else ... lemme look.
13:21 bshum +1 to gmcharlt's suggestion to put the OpenSRF stuff up front.
13:21 RoganH +1
13:21 graced +1
13:22 RoganH What we could do is do everything in black for all users and then put red or green blinking signs for those who aren't colorblind for "stable" and "test"
13:22 RoganH Then we will wish we couldn't see them.
13:23 * graced thinks Rogan misses Geocities
13:23 kmlussier bshum: So what do you need from us? Direction on layout for the page or would you like somebody to dive in to try reformatting the page?
13:28 * csharp is sorry to distract :-/
13:28 RoganH but he found a bug with the besting where it doesn't see the css added in the header
13:28 graced csharp++
13:28 RoganH so if we make css changes that way (rather than changing the underlying css files) we will need to test manually so to speak
13:28 gmcharlt csharp: my eyes!
13:29 RoganH this is so that updates don't break changes we make
13:29 RoganH that's all

Results for 2013-09-25

08:43 senator 74035faa65dacc made more problems go away than maybe what bshum knew
08:44 senator between that and c4e07520d85 i don't see any significant ie issues with the responsive-tpac branch anymore
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08:46 dbs senator: I think 74035faa65dacc actually fixed the logo / green screen thing on the IE home search too; I was testing my fix locally, pulled the branch, then pushed my fix, before I realized that theory was working just fine without the s/<strong><center>/margin:auto/ change
08:47 senator ah i guess so
08:47 senator bshum++
08:47 senator dbs++
08:52 senator yeah, that was my vague intention for what should happen with semiauto, but i probably never expressed it clearly or prominently
08:53 bshum senator++
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08:55 remingtron edoceo: do you still host an EG test server? I'm wondering if it will be available during the upcoming DIG hackaway in Nov.
08:56 bshum remingtron: I had some plans to setup a test server for DIG use as well.
08:56 dbs bshum: if you check the git history, you'll see that I chipped away at it for a while
08:56 dbs eventually a squirrel ran by and I got distracted...
08:56 bshum But it'd be good to know what edoceo is doing with his server.
08:59 bshum Heh, sure thing remingtron
09:00 remingtron bshum++
09:00 remingtron gracias
09:02 bshum remingtron: As a minor detail, what version should I aim to put on the test server? (would have normally put master, but just remembered that's not always appropriate)
09:02 remingtron that's a good question for yboston, whenever he comes on
09:02 bshum Sounds good, I'll make sure to ask.
09:03 remingtron I imagine DIG will want something from 2.5 (master might be fine), and latest 2.4?
10:07 Dyrcona Now, I have to spend an hour manipulating a spreadsheet that matches parts on incoming records with existing parts in our system.
10:07 * Dyrcona poofs out.
10:09 senator ubuntu's lts cycle... it helps keep me in a state of always wondering where the last two years have gone
10:16 csharp Dyrcona: I'll be willing to test 14.04 too
10:16 csharp senator: yep ;-)
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10:38 senator bshum: 6b1290c10ef3 for not showing the search bar on my acccount pages...
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11:01 csharp 3eb616e56c82a5106e14f5a446f1d875015db7f0
11:01 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Inter-authority linking - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3eb616e>
11:09 csharp senator: dbwells: I've installed the code for bug 1214464 and have reingested auths and bibs... I'm wondering what the best way to proceed in testing is
11:09 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1214464 in Evergreen "Bi-directional authority enhanced bib browse" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214464
11:10 jcamins Ooh, that sounds really cool!
11:11 dbwells jcamins: Any chance you could test and sign off?
11:11 senator csharp: right, thanks for bringing that up again
11:11 jcamins dbwells: sadly I can't even coerce my Evergreen VM into starting anymore.
11:11 senator i need to better explain what it's supposed to do
11:12 csharp just still trying to bust through the beta blockers (though if I'm not the best person to test/sign-off, I won't get my feelings hurt ;-))
11:12 dbwells jcamins: too bad!
11:14 senator csharp: not at all, it's on me to explain what the expectations are for that
11:14 eeevil csharp: I'll try to explain 1214464 ... I can be blamed for most of that
11:29 csharp eeevil++
11:29 csharp senator++
11:29 eeevil (also, get inter-authority update, like authority change propagation for bib data today ... yet another project)
11:32 csharp ok, well from the "I added the code and poked and nothing looks broken" perspective, I've tested
11:32 csharp I guess the best way to test is to import some Bachman/King records and see that they work?
11:32 csharp (or something similar)
11:33 eeevil csharp: you'll have to add the appropriate $0 to each, and make bibs use them ... but yes, that would be a good test
11:36 * csharp chuckles at his lack of hands on cataloging knowledge
11:36 yboston csharp: let me know if you want some help with what to look in your testing, I have used authorities in EG before
11:36 yboston csharp:  I can dig up bibs with related auths, etc
11:37 csharp yboston: that would be great, actually
11:37 csharp I guess I can also just export from PINES prod and import too
11:38 yboston csharp:  I am at your service, by chat, email, or phone. BTW, I assume this test VM is not available on the outside
11:38 csharp yboston: thank you! - yeah, it's behind a firewall atm
11:38 csharp or NAT rather
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11:49 yboston apropos of nothing, it might be too late for 2.5 but there is a branch that is a favorite of mine that was worked on during the dev hack-a-way that could a sign off. I will test it today and sign it off, but my sign off does not carry that much weight LP 1065378
11:49 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1065378 in Evergreen "Added content by record ID" (affected: 2, heat: 16) [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065378 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
11:49 yboston 4408bff9b3cb2740b60b69b1ec2c1bf61691f1dc
11:53 remingtron yboston: since the 2.5 timeline has changed a little, I think you have time still to get it into beta
11:53 senator yboston: i'm not sure your signoff is any lighter than anyone else's. you're an active participant in the community who can be counted on to test carefully
11:53 yboston suckers
11:53 jeff yboston++
11:53 kmlussier yboston++
11:56 csharp bshum++
11:56 bshum senator: And yeah, sorry about my slipshod commit messages.  In retrospect I need to be better about writing more extensive commit messages even when I think I'll have time to clean them up later.
11:56 bshum It's just bad habit on my part that I expect to do better in the future.
11:57 yboston bshum: wow that is great to know, I had lost track of who had used his code. I will still set up a test Vm for the practice after lunch
11:57 yboston bshum++
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11:57 dbwells yboston: at this point we are certainly to the "when in doubt, leave it out" stage of 2.5, but the fact that that branch is mature and in production at multiple sites certainly tips the scales toward including it if someone takes it up.
11:58 yboston dbwells:  good to know.
12:01 bshum So I'll probably ask him to weigh in on those before we do anything
12:01 senator bshum: ah no worries, i wouldn't have called it slipshod at all, i just missed a subtlety at fist
12:01 senator *first
12:01 bshum But for the rest of it, the ISSN thing was the only thing I still need to test for it.  The rest is fine.
12:01 * bshum pokes jeff :)
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14:07 pinesol_green rfrasur: The operation succeeded.
14:17 csharp may have stumbled on a bug in vandelay when attempting import of authority records: http://pastebin.com/k5zcKMCN
14:20 yboston csharp:  are you running master?
14:21 Dyrcona That's his test server, I'll bet.
14:21 yboston edoceo: thanks for once again offering to help DIG with a test server. Last year you were ready to help us, but we were not. we ended up at reviewing old docs instead of writing new docs
14:22 csharp yep - master as of today
14:22 csharp plus eeevil's auth browse improvements
14:22 Dyrcona csharp: That's not production, though, is it?
14:22 csharp nope
14:22 csharp test server
14:23 Dyrcona Just looking at the error, but not at the source, it could probably be fixed in fm_IDL.xml.
14:23 yboston csharp: I can try to build a master server tomorrow to see if I can reporuce the error
14:24 Dyrcona Looks like the classes with ids vqar and vam should have a link but one or both of them lack the IDL entry.
14:24 yboston or test any fixes
14:26 Dyrcona vqar has link to vam, but nothing the other way 'round.
14:27 yboston Note to remingtron , bshum  , edoceo: Since the DIG hack-a-way will be in NOvember, I would wait for 2.5 to be released so that we can document off of that version. though that is only my opinion, I am open to other thoughts
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19:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] TPAC: Consolidate and simplify button styles - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=798a4ff>
19:59 * Dyrcona does a happy dance.
20:09 * bshum wonders whether to join Dyrcona?
20:19 pinesol_green [evergreen|Steven Callender] Added in warning message when placing hold with no email address. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6707d53>
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20:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] Fiction records / copies test data - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=954bb31>
20:41 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Better handling of purchase_order being non-numeric - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3282cbb>
20:43 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Fix delete items confirmation typo. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=addfe15>
20:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Add PhoneList.pm. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6785a4a>
20:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Strip out spaces as well as - from phone numbers in PhoneList::Holds. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3448c22>
20:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Fix PhoneList.pm child_init method. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e4e39e6>
20:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Add phonelist.txt release notes. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6566aa8>
20:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Add PhoneList.pm stuff to Apache 2.4 config - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=48a44af>
21:24 * jeff attempts to rebase ac_by_record_id
21:29 bshum jeff: Let me know if I can help with any of that.
21:36 jeff bshum: summary.tt2 changed just a LITTLE bit. ;-)
21:36 bshum Hehe
21:49 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] In reports, show old label name as the default in the Alter Display Header -prompt - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1db3c91>
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21:56 jeff bshum: eyes appreciated on user/jeff/ac_by_record_id_2013_rebase
21:57 jeff bshum: i'm about to test to ensure that all's still well with responsive stuff in play
21:57 jeff bshum: then, release notes and perhaps you and/or yboston can sign off
22:15 bshum jeff: Sounds like a plan.  I have to get a nicer test server going for things as well.
22:15 bshum I'll hit that up early tomorrow.
22:16 jeff https://eg.dev.tadl.org/ has master + ac by record id. concerto plus some transcendant bibs from yboston
22:16 jeff "disc" is a good query to get music jackets
22:17 bshum Looks reasonable.

Results for 2013-09-24

09:50 dbs f6fbea5a4a1cab03e was the relevant commit, but need to fix initial tab too
09:54 dbs bshum: pushed a commit to fix that
09:54 bshum dbs++
09:55 * csharp will throw the mobile OPAC code on a 2.5-ish test server later this week for "production" testing
09:55 Dyrcona It looks good on my Galaxy S4.
09:55 csharp I'll test some today if I get a chance on a vanilla master server, but today is meeting-ful
09:55 csharp theory looks great on my Note 2
09:56 bshum dbs: Works for theory
09:56 csharp I got to brag on y'all to my bosses ;-)
09:57 dbs There are some inconsistencies with Submit button ("Search") vs. Clear Form that we fought with before that raised their heads again last night. Still not pretty.
11:43 senator well of course, and everyone's doing a great job, and this is an unusually strong, collaborative effort
11:43 senator i'm not trying to put the brakes on anything here
11:44 dbs I've got to go get lunch. With the possible exception of experimenting with <button> instead of <a> for .opac-buttons, I think I'm done for a while.
11:44 * csharp refreshes his dev server to test the mobile OPAC
11:45 dbs There's a lot more to be done, but it has come a long way.
11:45 senator but i think our meaningful review/sign-off practices are worth maintaining
11:45 dbs csharp: collab/dbs/responsive-tpac is the latest, rebased on current master
11:51 csharp heh
11:51 bshum senator: I don't really feel like we should review the mobile work in pieces.  Lots of what happened was done with the entire experience in mind and I've been finding it hard to say this is exclusively only benefiting one or the other.
11:52 csharp okay, as a tester, are there places I should poke especially hard?
11:52 bshum Even with the font-size stuff, that helps in the main catalog, but it impacted significantly how the mobile view worked as well with regards to how much finnessing we needed to deal with.
11:53 bshum csharp: The big thing I focused on with testing was ensuring that the original functionality was as close as possible.  Especially with regards to the login page, my account areas, advanced search, and results view.
11:53 bshum Those were the four big areas of change I think.
11:53 csharp okey dokey
11:53 bshum Oh, the searchbar.
11:54 bshum The biggest difference visually is the login page I think
12:58 ElliotFriend agreed. I'm thinking it is more a policy problem than evergreen problem.
12:58 csharp definitely ;-)
12:59 ElliotFriend i've not tried checking in non-checked-out items yet, what happens then?
13:00 csharp ElliotFriend: from my quick test, it puts the item into Reshelving status
13:00 dbs dbwells++ # overflow:auto does the trick
13:01 * csharp has supported EG for 5+ years but has never used it day-to-day ;-)
13:01 * rfrasur uses EG daily and loves it like a child.
15:46 bshum senator: So dbs and I discovered with tsbere's help that the compatibility mode was screwing with the mobile branch horrifically
15:46 bshum We added a meta tag to force it off
15:47 bshum When we turned it off, it looked much better with IE10 for me at least
15:47 senator and all looks pretty good now? i'm only in a position to test with 8, i think, right now
15:47 bshum I think he tested IE8 and it was fine
15:47 bshum senator: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=68d50​f2678eb6c558623bfd2c764bc51ec789d5f
15:47 bshum That's the commit dbs put for the meta tag
15:48 senator thanks
15:48 bshum If you toss that on your test system or use theory.biblio.org with IE8 to test; that'd be great.
15:48 dbwells I am on IE9.  It's functional, but with quite a few display regressions.
15:48 bshum I only have IE10 to test with
15:52 jeff free IE test VMs here: http://www.modern.ie/virtualization-tools
15:53 dbwells I can verify that IE10 displays much better than IE9.
15:53 jeff or http://www.modern.ie/en-us/vi​rtualization-tools#downloads for a barely-more-direct link
15:54 kmlussier Ugh! Git problems trying to push to dbs' branch.
16:01 jeff Oh hey. I just realized. The concept of Standards Override Bodies already exists. We call them Vendors, right?
16:02 jeff (I come to this realization as we are essentially negotiating a likely non-standard NCIP extension with someone else's vendor indirectly via IM and email)
16:05 * bshum takes his hands off the repo (took a few moments to rebase on top of kmlussier's stuff)
16:08 * senator tests ie, listens to that silly clicking sound a lot
16:10 * dbwells imagines the bug report which started that "The instructions said to click the link.  I kept pressing the mouse button, but never got any clicking..."
16:10 senator generally looks good, only noticing two glitches myself so far: green swatch on the right side of the basic search page, and also on the search results page (but not the record detail page). on the search results page, the white background basically ends at the right edge of the initially visible area (the area visible without horizontal scrolling). to the right of that is only green, and long
16:10 senator titlescut off there instead of wrapping

Results for 2013-09-23

12:48 dbs error was at auth_concerto.sql:76
12:48 senator jeff: hmm, i think setting pos in URLVerify.pm was just cargo cult
12:49 jeff senator: your self-awareness and honesty are appreciated. thanks! :-)
12:49 senator it looks to me, too, like nothing actually cares about the position of cbrebi rows. i guess they don't really have an intrinsic order
12:49 senator no prob. i would want to test that the link checker still works after any patch that loses that field, just to be on the safe side, of course
12:50 jeff i'm not proposing losing the field, just doing some recon as i consider adding a "sort by date added to bucket" feature somewhere
12:51 senator ah
12:56 dbs Fails on the second auth_concerto record, which is the first to contain unicode XML char entities
16:35 Bmagic so, fine_generator knows not to create those rows.... my question is which table is it using to decide weather or not to generate inserts into money.billing
16:35 jeff Bmagic: i think Dyrcona's advice is going to be most useful for you -- you may find that you need to clear the stop_fines and stop_fines_reason for the circulations in question.
16:35 Dyrcona Bmagic: action.circulation
16:35 jeff Bmagic: but please consider doing this on a test copy of the database -- it would make me feel much better. :-)
16:36 Bmagic do you mean the action.circulation - stop_fines (text) stop_fines_time ?
16:36 Dyrcona yep.
16:37 jeff Bmagic: yes. sorry, i stated their names incorrectly. :-)
16:42 jeff most/all of those are set at checkout time. changing the policy/matchpoints in the staff client will not affect existing checkouts.
16:42 Bmagic I see, would it be cleaner to wipe the rows and import from csv again?
16:43 Dyrcona Bmagic: maybe. how many rows are you talking about?
16:43 jeff Bmagic: depends on how you originally imported things. possibly. experimentation on a test copy may be required to answer that question -- lots of variables involved that are only specific to your situation.
16:43 Bmagic less than 1k
16:44 Bmagic stop_fines needs to be blank for fine_generator to go again?
16:44 Bmagic My test set shows "MAXFINES"
16:44 jeff i'm torn between the trouble of disabling triggers and deleting the rows from action.circulation vs just fixing things in place. i'd almost lean toward fixing in place for that smaller number.
16:44 Dyrcona both stop_fines and stop_fines_time should be null.
16:45 Bmagic GOTCHA
16:45 * Dyrcona leans toward agreeing with jeff. :)
16:45 jeff ideally you'd have a test copy where this issue was discovered, and could just re-do everything from a pristine copy, but ideals are elusive.
16:45 Bmagic yeah - the deal is, there have been 3 weeks of live updates to the db since the migration
16:45 jeff we had lots of "not apparent until in production" post-migration cleanup. :-)
16:46 jeff (and there are several present who may declare that a huge understatement)

Results for 2013-09-20

16:23 remingtron kmlussier: I was about to ask the same question
16:24 remingtron kmlussier: I don't want to step on toes, but as an experiment I posted my serials docs to bug 1207519
16:25 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1207519 in Evergreen "Serials 2.4 updated documentation needed" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1207519
16:25 remingtron so if you want to test the workflow and push it in... :)
16:25 kmlussier remingtron: Yes, that's right. Since I'm in git now, maybe I'll push it. :)
16:25 rfrasur remingtron, from my understanding, that's exactly what we were hoping to have happen.
16:26 kmlussier I was going to start adding new 2.5 features that need documentation to Launchpad.
16:26 remingtron sounds like a good test run
16:26 remingtron kmlussier++
16:27 kmlussier eeevil: FWIW, I didn't see your comments as negative.
16:28 rfrasur okay...sorry I couldn't look it over more.  Time to go do payroll.  Staff don't look kindly on late paychecks.
16:28 eeevil kmlussier: thanks, I struggle with tone in technical text discussions
16:45 remingtron hurray! kmlussier++
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17:44 bshum kmlussier++ # new menu for preferences looks reasonable so far.  Going to test further.
17:45 kmlussier DPearl++ for suggesting the approach.
17:46 kmlussier We need to figure out what we want to do with the tabs in the account holds and checked-out items interfaces.
17:46 kmlussier There are only two tabs, so the display isn't as terrible as the others.

Results for 2013-09-19

08:59 phasefx circ.holds.hold_has_copy_at.alert ?
09:00 phasefx and circ.holds.hold_has_copy_at.block
09:01 phasefx not quite the same
09:02 mmorgan mrpeters: Just tested this on our 2.3.7 system.
09:02 DPearl Is the hackaway in the same library room today?
09:02 mmorgan Attempted to place a hold on a bib for a patron who had a copy checked out and it was unsuccessful. Problem HOLD_ITEM_ALREADY_CHECKED_OUT with the option to override.
09:03 dbs bshum: yeesh, the 800px -> 850px has a very bad smell attached to it (the whole px-width thing); why not just put all of the select boxes on a single "line" and let them wrap to the appropriate width?
10:43 dbs In which case we could add a label + a border to group them, no matter how they break
10:44 paxed legend?
10:44 dbs legend-ary!
10:45 * rfrasur opens "Evergreen 2.4 Testing Documents" with fear and trepidation.
10:45 dbs Sorry. What I said was, with the current approach, we can remove the special <600px MOPAC CSS
10:45 paxed koha seems to use legends all over the place.
10:46 dbs because it's truly responsive, to whatever size of screen you have.
13:33 jeff and now it's up.
13:33 jeff > key can be any one of ISBN, OCLC, LCCN, OLID and ID (case-insensitive)
13:47 dbs Learning point: design for mobile first!
13:51 phasefx design for testing first, too, but at least one test tool makes use of accessiblity libraries for working the UI, so you can do both
13:52 jeff man. i thought isbns were messy. lccns and oclc nums are almost worse.
13:54 eeevil how upgrade-safe are the changes that have been made thus far?
13:54 rfrasur thanks bshum
13:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1221411 in Evergreen "Translating the basic search bar is troublesome" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221411
13:58 dbs That's kind of the whole point of a responsive design: it's one design.
13:58 rfrasur is this referring to font size?  sorry...audio is a little hit or miss
13:59 dbs We were evaluating them on their own merits. And even tested with IE (up to this morning, anyway)
13:59 dbs rfrasur: all of the changes
13:59 rfrasur oh...sorry...I meant the 12/14 conversation
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14:00 dbs paxed: nope
15:00 eeevil array in hand, use foreach; iterator pattern, use while
15:01 eeevil Dyrcona: also, switching to while means you can use the variable directly, no need to deref and re-ref
15:01 eeevil also, \@data will be faster (and less memory hungry) than [@data] ... though that may be a micro-optimization in your use case
15:02 Dyrcona eevil: I'll give it a try, though testing with ten records it won't be noticeable.
15:02 Dyrcona eeevil ^
15:02 eeevil indeed it wont
15:02 eeevil but, while++

Results for 2013-09-18

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09:38 remingtron EG 2.6 discussion collaborative notes, please edit! http://goo.gl/oGoSUI
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09:39 dbs bshum: okay, a couple of commits on there now; place hold / add to my list now live under the record metadata in results & are enabled for mobile mode
09:40 dbs btw, you'll be excited to know I _have_ tested this in IE8 :)
09:40 RoganH dbs: but how does it run in lynx?
09:40 dbs RoganH: pretty well, actually
09:40 RoganH dbs: if it runs in lynx I'm happy :)
11:00 phasefx is there a notes gdoc for today?
11:00 dbs phasefx: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y2RDoH​4E8IOlqHTaHRDmB9imK3iiFwOMt0TRs8hCSnA/edit
11:00 phasefx dbs: gracias
11:00 bshum dbs: Sweet.  I have to resync my test server with all these changes.
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11:09 Dyrcona Had I been 2.5 RM, it would have been a disaster. I
11:09 Dyrcona I've spent my summer on adding a new member and my bosses' priorities.
14:06 bshum dbs: Pushed to theory
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14:17 berick https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1220722
14:17 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1220722 in Evergreen "Additional (mostly) fiction bib records and copies for test data" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New]
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14:20 dbs bshum: another commit for you
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Results for 2013-09-17

11:00 * dbs notes that AngularJS is a framework largely built by Google
11:01 paxed i'm not convinced upgrading to newer xulrunner will help in the long run.
11:01 eeevil dbs: and dojo is heavily supported by IBM ... /me attempts to tug at dbs' heartstrings
11:01 dbs paxed: testing required for _any_ approach, obviously
11:01 paxed dbs: yeap
11:01 dbs eeevil: great reason to go angular :)
11:02 jeff i think what's being discussed is abandoning xul, then xulrunner, but at some point along the way we may support newer xulrunner before exiting it completely.
11:03 phasefx autohotkey
11:03 paxed if i get the chance i'll try to pinpoint the xulrunner bug (as i think it is a xulrunner one) that causes the js not get the locale
11:03 eeevil constrictor is coming back ... VM coming soon
11:03 phasefx very difficult to use as a general testing framework, but possible
11:04 jeff i'm inclined to forget testing the xulrunner staff client, and focus on testing and instrumenting the new web-based experiment.
11:04 dbs jeff++ # thus selenium
11:04 Dyrcona +elebenty!!
11:05 bott_otr AngularJS example:  function BeerCounter () on homepage.  What more do you need?
11:05 * phasefx thinks selenium would be great for testing web-based stuff.. horrified at the notion of putting selenium into xulrunner, if anyone is thinking of that
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11:06 jeff phasefx: too bad. we're hacking on putting selenium into xulrunner RIGHT NOW.
11:06 jeff (no, we're not)
11:07 jeffdavis kmlussier++
11:08 eeevil (see: wai-aria in tpac)
11:08 dbs eeevil: yep
11:11 jeff i am amused at the idea of testing a receipt printer shim by printing a few hundred receipts to a bank of printers
11:12 * dbs is torn between mobile catalogue and marc export
11:13 dbs marque export, to be more canadian
11:14 rfrasur nice
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11:19 bshum maybe tomorrow, we can get phasefx on the big screen to do a rundown of QA stuff :)
11:19 bshum (or others)
11:19 dbs dojo and angular, fwiw, each have fairly well-integrated or closely associated test frameworks (Dojo = DOH, or at least used to be; Angular = Jasmine and Karma)
11:20 * dbs half-raises a hand for mopac
11:20 * dbs half-raises a hand for marc export
11:21 jeffdavis Dyrcona: Sitka has some MARC export tools here - http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/git​web/?p=sitka/sitka-tools.git;a=tree
11:21 jeffdavis I didn't write that stuff and won't be in that hackaway session, but pointing it out in case it's of interest
11:21 * rfrasur would like to hang out in the mopac
11:28 dbs I'll poke Dyrcona later on today to hopefully kick export ideas around :)
11:28 bott_otr mobile catalog thought, via dbs:  http://bit.ly/18v26yf
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11:29 dbs I think my test server links are dead or at least no longer have that test CSS applied :/
11:30 dbs but I could probably get it back into shape
11:31 bott_otr1 I'm pretty sure I burnt my VM with that work as well
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11:31 eeevil bibtemplate!
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13:38 berick @quote add < Rogan_Ni> Star Wars
13:38 pinesol_green berick: The operation succeeded.  Quote #67 added.
13:39 berick eeevil: ahh, no, i wish
13:39 berick eeevil: just a slim set of fieldmapper stuff and some other test code
13:40 eeevil ah. cool. so some custom module rewrapping
13:40 tsbere Apparently hangouts doesn't like being logged in and active when the play store decides to auto-update it in the background. Go figure.
13:42 eeevil senator: does your group have a hangout too?
13:44 jboyer-home }
13:44 senator eeevil: negative
13:44 jboyer-home </style>
13:45 senator we're working on serials, but are less focused than the other groups, participating also in mobile opac discussion and bug testing/merging for now
13:45 berick eeevil: re, dojo, sort of.  for the code I'm using, i had to do surprisingly little
13:45 senator might lack enough cams
13:45 berick i'm loading opensrf js directly (via script) and it all works find
13:47 berick eeevil: i'd like to.  my only concern is getting websockets running on the server side is non-trivial at this stage
13:47 eeevil ah
13:47 senator Dyrcona: your group seems real serious over there. can you ping me when you've got a second where you wouldn't mind an interruption?
13:47 berick so it would limit who could test it..
13:48 rfrasur is the audio I'm hearing with regard to responsiveness the staff client discussion? or mopac?
13:48 * dbs assumes Dyrcona is in a group of one :)
13:48 phasefx rfrasur: I see you in the staff client one, fwiw

Results for 2013-09-16

11:53 rfrasur Have a nice walkaround
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12:01 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Inter-authority linking script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1e248d8>
12:12 eeevil bshum: I know you tested the initial bib browse stuff.  Did you also test https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1214464 ?  It's been a month, and no feedback from the greater community ...
12:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1214464 in Evergreen "Bi-directional authority enhanced bib browse" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New]
12:12 eeevil bah ... missed him
12:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] Billing UI style lost and longoverdue circulations - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0818801>
12:18 bshum eeevil: We didn't have any auth records in our system. So we couldn't test that.
12:19 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1206649 un-cancel received lineitems / copies - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4b472cb>
12:21 bshum Or at least I wasn't sure.
12:29 eeevil bshum: ah, ok, thanks

Results for 2013-09-13

11:13 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.  Dyrcona hates their/there.
11:13 bshum For LDAP goodness
11:13 Dyrcona @hate English orthography
11:13 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.  Dyrcona hates English orthography.
11:14 pinesol_green [opensrf|Galen Charlton] LP#1224647: remove two invalid tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=9028b02>
11:14 dbs there there, dyrcona, it'll be okay
11:15 dbs their they're, Dyrcona.
11:15 Dyrcona yeah...
12:03 gmcharlt ... which reminds me of the ongoing discussions in Koha-land about the LiveDVD
12:03 jbfink dbs: yeah, me too, and crouton solves the rest with lubuntu in a chroot. well, not the *rest*, but 98%, and that 2% is things I can't solve due to the chromebook kernel not supporting things.
12:04 jbfink dbs: Yeah, zero idea about production, but since I'm wrapping *everything* in a container -- including the DB and all that -- I can see it getting too large to be usable. But this is all just me farting around. We're not even running EG here or anything.
12:04 gmcharlt as it's challenging to communicate to folks who've set up a test system using one that it's not the ideal way to set up a production system
12:04 dbs gmcharlt: GIVE US THE CREDIT FOR THE LIVEDVD K THX
12:04 gmcharlt dbs: and yeah, there's that :)
12:06 * rfrasur pops in and sees a pertinent discussion and now must scroll back.
12:08 jcamins jbfink: if you need it to exit when the children exit so that docker can clean up, you could also just use wait, since everything has a pidfile.
12:08 jcamins Kind of late to the party, though, sorry.
12:11 jcamins gmcharlt: I feel like it's easier to explain with something like docker than with a livedvd because docker is explicitly developer-oriented, whereas the livedvd is more "this is how you install Koha on your computer."
12:12 gmcharlt jcamins: really?  From their home page... "The same container that a developer builds and tests on a laptop can run at scale, in production"
12:13 gmcharlt of course, as I know nothing of docker, it may well be that it's perfectly plausible (with enough effort) to use it for a production setup
12:13 jcamins gmcharlt: "Please note ... it should not be used in production."
12:13 jcamins (from "Learn more")
12:13 gmcharlt jcamins: mayhap they're trying to have their cake and eat it too?  both statements are on their website, and are on the face of it contradictory
13:00 * bshum sneaks in some lunch first.
13:02 dbs bshum: direct database updates methinks :)
13:02 bshum Could be lots of those too. We do like our direct SQL updates too :)
13:04 dbs eeevil: I think the idea is that the dockerized version will be created from latest OpenSRF/Evergreen master + underlying distro packages on demand, so always up-to-date, vs static VMs
13:05 dbs ergo good for testing perhaps
13:07 eeevil dbs: ah ... I figured installation into a doc would still have to be done by hand ... if it can be automated, super! (see: wheezy installer wanting to be merged :) )
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13:13 dbs jbfink can correct me if I'm wrong, of course

Results for 2013-09-12

12:46 tony_ paxed_ "thru"
12:46 dbs tony_: still need more of the failure log
12:47 tony_ _dbs okay hang-on let me pull the logs
12:47 dbs tony_: well, even just the last 10 lines that were printed to the screen
12:47 dbs eeevil++ # that looks better. now to give it a shot on our test server...
12:48 eeevil dbs: thanks, man!
12:52 tony_ dbs_ Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/07brltty Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: cat: read error: Is a directory Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: sh: you need to specify whom to kill Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/07preseed Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/07speakup Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/l
12:53 tony_ dbs_ Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: Disabling CD in sources.list Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/10clock-setup Sep 11 18:10:22 anna-install: Installing os-prober-udeb Sep 11 18:10:22 os-prober: File descriptor 3 (pipe:[1247]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 28714: log-output Sep 11 18:10:22 os-prober: File descriptor 4 (/dev/pts/0) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 28714: log-output
13:11 tony_ dbs what parts of this log do you want...
13:11 tony_ dbs can't believe how many times I looked at this file and just couldn't see it
13:13 eeevil dbs: wheeee.... I'll toss it on LP
13:13 tony_ dbs here you go: ## ----------- ## ## Core tests. ## ## ----------- ##  configure:2342: checking for a BSD-compatible install configure:2410: result: /usr/bin/install -c configure:2421: checking whether build environment is sane configure:2471: result: yes configure:2612: checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p configure:2651: result: /bin/mkdir -p configure:2664: checking for gawk configure:2694: result: no configure:2664: checking fo
13:14 tony_ configure:2680: found /usr/bin/mawk configure:2691: result: mawk configure:2702: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) configure:2724: result: yes configure:2842: checking build system type configure:2853: error: /bin/bash ./config.sub ./configure failed
13:14 dbs tony_: when you run ./configure --whatever, just the last screen or two of whatever gets printed to the screen. And ideally paste to http://pastebin.ca or the like
13:18 tony_ dbs did that work for you
13:21 eeevil dbs: separately, we should probably move the mrd join up to immediately after the core table
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16:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Allow translation of acq.cancel_reason texts. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=777798d>
16:43 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#856688 OUS to disable org unit as hold pickup lib - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=33206c4>
17:01 bshum dbwells++ # got the LDAP test script to authenticate with the right credentials.  Very handy, thank you sir!
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Results for 2013-09-11

11:10 Dyrcona dbwells: I plan to work on NCIP at the hackaway, but maybe.
11:10 kmlussier bshum++
11:10 Dyrcona bshum kmlussier Neither have I.
11:12 eeevil kmlussier: re https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1174860 ... it applies without conflict to rel_2_3. I have not attemtped to test its efficacy in that situation, but I don't think it will hurt. if reordering the query so that user input is last and widget-derived input comes first makes your 2.3 tests work, then yes, it should be backported
11:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1174860 in Evergreen "tpac: search filter groups don't play nicely with facets" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [Undecided,Triaged]
11:13 kmlussier eeevil: OK, thanks. I'll see if I can test it on a 2.3 system.
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11:17 csharp_mtg ssh_port_blocking_on_wifi--
11:20 dbs running_an_ssh_server_on_port_443++
11:58 bshum Sigh
11:58 jeff_ do you mean that they fall back to the user's preferences, or something else?
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11:59 bshum That's worth testing I guess
12:00 bshum I think if they don't have preferences, it defaults to no notification
12:00 bshum Which is confusing the library
12:00 bshum And the patrons too I guess
12:00 bshum Since they'll never find out they have holds ready for them
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12:03 dbs kraftsman-pac
12:03 bshum Pretty much :)
12:37 bshum Hmm
12:37 * tsbere assumes the backend code doesn't look that stuff up because if the frontend had, say, email deselected we don't want the fact it was the user's default to re-enable it
12:38 tsbere perhaps one solution would be the load the user's prefs into hidden fields in the kpac? At least then any defaults will apply...
12:41 jeff that would be the quickest short-term solution, assuming that the kpac handlers will do anything with it. a quick experiment would be to manually create the hidden fields with values in them hardcoded in the appropriate template file in a test environment.
12:42 jeff you might even find that the defaults / user settings have already been looked up and are available to the template with no handler-side modifications.
12:42 jeff but if they aren't already there, that would be your next step. :-)
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12:47 bshum Alright, I guess I'll start looking a little at that.
12:48 bshum Thanks jeff and tsbere
14:52 bshum Sigh
14:53 bshum Sorry jboyer-isl, not you.  That idea sounds worthy of being added to the list.
14:53 bshum Sighing about other things :)
14:53 jboyer-isl bshum: I was going to ask if the KPAC holds testing went poorly. :)
14:53 bshum jboyer-isl: I haven't even had time to get back to that yet.
14:54 jboyer-isl One of those days, then, eh?
14:58 senator jboyer-isl: i owe serials some attention and plan to be dbwells' best friend for some of that time, but as a #2 thing to slot in, yeah i would work on that
14:58 bshum General opinion... should we keep https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1086458 open?  Now that someone filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1224042 ?
14:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1086458 in Evergreen "Staff client memory leaks in 2.3 and later" (affected: 8, heat: 56) [High,Fix committed]
14:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1224042 in Evergreen "Staff client memory leaks in 2.4" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
14:59 bshum The 2.3 one has lots of things we've tested/tried
14:59 bshum But the 2.4 one is most recent and does have additional test information attempted by SITKA I guess.
14:59 * jeff frowns at 1224042
14:59 bshum jeff: That's kind of what I was thinking.
14:59 jboyer-isl senator: I can work on css/html later if I have to, so if time becomes available just let me know. I don't think I've really got enough experience with eg's guts to get going alone. (i.e. none at all with most of EGCatLoader...)
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16:35 hopkinsju bshum: I'm just now getting to look at the new site. Great job dude!
16:35 hopkinsju bshum++
16:35 bshum hopkinsju: Still a work in progress, but thank you :)
16:36 bshum dbwells: Is there anything in the logs that indicates why an LDAP authentication might be failing?
16:36 bshum I'm trying to set up a connection for one of our schools and now I'm not sure if it's the AD user creds I was given or improper test account credentials.
16:37 dbwells bshum: there are a number of different error messages.  One second...
16:38 dbwells bshum: looks like they are all debug level, and all start with "User login failed:".
16:39 bshum dbwells: Okay, so I need to bump up opensrf_core.xml to debug level (4?) and then try again
16:45 bshum Now I just have to figure out why that is and what it means... heh
16:45 senator no, thank you
16:46 dbs bshum: port may not be open... credentials could be bad... lots of possibilities with LDAP :)
16:46 bshum dbs: Yep, that's what I figured.
16:47 bshum I wish there was an easier way to test this stuff.  Stupid LDAP
16:52 jeff Dyrcona++ for JSONPrefs -- interesting
16:54 pastebot "dbwells" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "test LDAP bind credentials" (8 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/12
16:55 dbwells bshum: your LDAP stuff is failing at the admin bind stage, so I would use something simple like the paste above to test the credentials.
16:55 dbwells bshum: If you can bind, you will get a '0' to print out.
16:55 bshum dbwells: Thank you sir, that will be mighty helpful indeed.
16:56 dbwells bshum: obviously, you will need to change the hardcoded stuff in there to whatever your values are for hostname, authid, and password.
16:57 bshum dbwells: Yep, just tried that and got 49 back.  Which looks to be a basic bind error

Results for 2013-09-10

16:25 berick ok, yeah, that should pretty much never be empty
16:25 berick if it's being used
16:26 berick error logs must be going somewhere else
16:26 jeff Unfortunately, testing with this implementation shows that the mandatory UniqueUserId/UserIdentifierValue is discarded and only the value of UserOptionalFields/VisibleU​serId/VisibleUserIdentifier is stored, and used for subsequent requests (in the UniqueUserId/UserIdentifierValue field, of course)
16:26 berick also, to confirm, the template source in the linux staff client shows the same lang/xml:lang of fi_fi ?
16:27 paxed berick: yes
16:27 berick crazy
16:35 paxed phasefx: interesting though that FF shows the page in Finnish, but the login texts in english, and the page lang/xml:lang = en_us ...
16:37 dbwells jeff: right, the second.  We didn't want users getting a new account whenever they got a new barcode.  If they would just "believe" the UniqueUserId we sent them, all would be fine.
16:38 * tsbere has at least one vendor he wants to use unique IDs from evergreen but can never seem to get anyone willing to talk to him about it - They assume that barcodes never change or something.
16:39 dbwells jeff: I think we even tested sending back nothing *but* the ID in the the lookupuser response, but it didn't matter; whatever the patron typed in to get looked up, that was their UniqueId for the rest of the interaction (based on my 5 months old memories, at least).
16:41 paxed berick:
16:41 paxed Sep 10 23:41:23 egdev apache2[31157]: [debug] EGWeb.pm(77): [client 62.240.71.4] egweb: messages locale = fi_fi
16:41 paxed Sep 10 23:41:24 egdev apache2[31166]: [debug] IDL2js.pm(79): [client 62.240.71.4] Invalid IDL2js locale ''; using en-US
16:42 jeff dbwells: yeah. i'm testing a little more, but i've seen nothing that would contradict that.
16:43 berick paxed: which test does that match?
16:43 berick which client/locale/etc, i mean
16:44 paxed berick: windows client, finnish. and shows english, of course.
16:44 berick paxed: hm, did you remove my working patch?
16:47 phasefx if I change the URL for the frame containing the patron editor to /IDL2js, I get a decidedly English set of javascript back

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