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Results for 2015-07-01

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14:29 csharp @dunno add Ba ba ba dook Dook DOOK!
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14:34 jboyer-isl Quick Q for those with some Composite Coded Value Maps experience: Can a record attribute be the root of the tree, or does the root have to be a boolean operator? I've got some definitions that only allow a single value, but they don't display an expression in the editor.
14:35 Stompro Dyrcona, I just assigned myself to LP:1312297 so I would put in my next bug fixing branch, if it is higher priority then maybe someone else should grab it.  I'm not sure when I'll have time to test again.
14:35 jboyer-isl If that's just a display quirk I don't care, but now is the time to go back and make them all children of an OR or something like that if need be.
14:36 Dyrcona Stompro: That is basically what I planned to ask you about.
14:40 Stompro Drycona, I'll unassign myself, so someone else can grab if they have a chance.  I'll still try and test it when I have a chance, if someone doesn't beat me too it.
14:41 Dyrcona Stompro: OK with me.
14:41 Stompro And one agenda item done, <check> :-)
14:42 Dyrcona Mostly. I changed it, but they're really up for discussion.
14:44 Dyrcona Meeting starts in about 15 minutes.
14:46 dbwells jboyer-isl: I just created a quick test case, and it seemed to work alright, so I think it is just a display quick.
14:47 jboyer-isl dbwells: Thanks!
14:47 jboyer-isl dbwells++
14:48 dbwells s/quick/quirk/
15:18 Dyrcona Thanks to berick for doing the work. I'm sure it was fun deleting all that code!
15:18 * miker shed a single tear for the backend js
15:19 Dyrcona I recall occasionally having problems getting SpiderMonkey to install, so I won't cry. :)
15:19 jeff berick++ also for bug 1312297 which I suspect is close to next. I'm reviewing/testing -- any comments on need for tests and/or release notes? Release notes seems like a "for certain".
15:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1312297 in Evergreen "time to remove the old web-based selfcheck interface" (affected: 4, heat: 18) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1312297
15:19 Dyrcona jeff: Yes, that's the next "topic"
15:19 jeff Ah. I would probably know that if I had the agenda up. Sorry!
15:23 Dyrcona #action jeff will look into removing old self check interface.
15:23 Dyrcona I'll review.
15:24 Dyrcona Though, I think some of it now is just review, isn't it?
15:24 jeff And, does anyone have input on tests/QA for these mostly web/js removals?
15:24 jeff selfcheck is review and release notes (which i can craft). i think berick's done the work already.
15:24 Dyrcona #action jeff will look at removing old JSPAC code.
15:24 Dyrcona yep. berick++ again.
15:25 Dyrcona As for tests, I'm not sure what one could except make sure basic functionality of other parts of Evergreen still works.
15:26 Dyrcona jeff++ for taking those two on.
15:26 jeff That's good enough for me. If something makes sense to test, I'll do it, but won't stress about the RM not accepting removal of jspac due to lack of tests. :-)
15:27 Dyrcona The old self check should be fairly simple, 'cause I don't think anything else really touches it.

Results for 2015-06-30

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15:21 jboyer-isl Feels like one of those comes around every year. (did you mean Evergreen's Xth birthday/anniversary? ;) )
15:21 rfrasur Oh...yes.  10th.
15:21 rfrasur sorry...doing too many things.
15:24 remingtron According to evergreen-history.txt, the project was birthed in 2004 as a one-year test, OpenSRF 0.1 and Evergreen alpha were released in 2005, and Georgia PINES went live on Evergreen in 2006.
15:24 remingtron http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=history.gi​t;a=blob;f=evergreen-history.txt;h=3f8fd41​47bf3c58aa3f504480bef8e25078dd9a2;hb=HEAD
15:24 jboyer-isl Seems to depend on if you want to know how old the oldest code is or when it was put into production use.
15:24 jboyer-isl Ah, like remingtron says. :)
15:24 rfrasur Production.  Oldest code won't mean much to most librarians.

Results for 2015-06-29

15:06 Dyrcona heh
15:07 Dyrcona I don't have wifi problems in the new offices.
15:07 Dyrcona And, if I plug in, I've got gigabit to the servers down the hall.
15:08 Dyrcona We tested that this morning because the building people wanted to make sure that the fiber was working properly.
15:16 jeff that's somewhat troubling.
15:16 Dyrcona What's somewhat troubling?
15:17 jeff though in one scenario could be encouraging (this run tests clean, can you verify?)
15:17 Dyrcona Well, yeah, we actually tested it last week.
15:17 jeff it would be troubling if they were relying on your test as the only diagnostic. :-)
15:18 Dyrcona tsbere came over and they tested it Thursday, but didn't do any speed tests.
15:18 Dyrcona The building's engineer wanted us to do a speed test Saturday, but he had to leave before we had the right servers up.
15:31 Dyrcona Does NO_CHANGE mean that the copy check in failed?
15:31 jeff i believe it can mean that the copy was already checked in.
15:32 jeff SIP checkin considers SUCCESS and NO_CHANGE to be acceptable, and anything else is a failure.
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Results for 2015-06-28

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Results for 2015-06-27

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Results for 2015-06-26

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14:30 berick almost 1/3 of the table
14:30 * berick will open a bug for that one too unless i'm missing something
14:34 jeff berick: do you have the internal flag ingest.metarecord_mapping.preserve_on_delete set to true?
14:35 berick jeff: it's disabled in master + concerto, where I tested it first.  checking our DB...
14:35 jeff berick: because with that at false, my read of master says metabib.record_attr_vector_list gets rows removed on bib delete -- but then *I* might be missing something or misunderstanding you.
14:35 berick disabled here, too
14:35 berick good to know that's there, though

Results for 2015-06-25

14:17 jboyer-isl I wonder if it's a bad idea to connect to a vm, then connect to it's host, then run apt-get upgrade when qemu-kvm packages are involved. I suppose I'll find out shortly.
14:18 jboyer-isl Surprise! It's fine.
14:22 jeff jboyer-isl: this is why you have a console, right? ;-)
14:23 jboyer-isl jeff: this is why we have dev! nothing is too dangerous to test on a machine you don't need (at the moment).
14:24 jboyer-isl (I haven't installed our iLO licenses yet, so I would be quite cross if I had to make a personal appearance at the DC...)
14:25 jeff oh, i just meant your console from the vm host to the vm guest.
14:27 jboyer-isl jeff: Oh, sure. I wondered about the possibilities of interrupting an upgrade because you shut down the "remote" machine that started it and the state of the machine at that point.
14:27 jboyer-isl I guess having ssh go offline would be extremely unusual, but I expect things to blow up for real if they're going to blow up at all.
16:59 jwoodard_ ok so remind me where you can edit the max fine limit for patron groups
16:59 jwoodard_ It has been one of those days
17:02 mmorgan jwoodard_: You should find that in Circulation Policies (Admin - Local Admin - Circulation Policies)
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Results for 2015-06-24

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14:13 terran msg
14:13 caryar etiquette says use /msg for ask the operator politely to be allowed back in
14:13 bshum Yes, /query is what I usually use
14:13 terran msg yboston test
14:13 yboston bshum: really?
14:13 terran ack
14:13 yboston I looked it up, it was what I thought…. /msg nickname
15:05 jeff selling something... like parts.
15:12 * mmorgan can get you a deal on parts ;-)
15:12 gsams jeff++
15:12 Stompro Dyrcona, thanks for the quickpicks script.  So say I'm doing a bug testing branch with commits from 10 different LP bugs, I pull them all in using the -s flag with quickpick.  Now time passes and I test all the various LP bugs.  Is there an easy way to push signoff branches with just certain commits directly from my bug fix branch?  Or do I need to manage each signoff branch individually?  Sorry for the long post.
15:13 tsbere Stompro: You will need to build individual signoff branches.
15:13 Dyrcona Stompro: When I'm testing, I usually checkout -b a new branch based on master and then merge the branches that I want to test into that.
15:14 Dyrcona When I want to sign off on one of the branches, I usually create a new branch based on master, then quickpick -s the branch I want to sign off on.
15:16 Stompro Ok, that is what I thought, and where I was being lazy.  I'm sure I'll get faster at it with more practice.
15:17 miker bshum: you hate RAID?
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15:18 bshum In general it's good to test everything in collaboration, eventually. Since they'll be merged that way at some point. But too many at once it can be hard to figure out what broke what.
15:19 bshum miker: Maybe I meant to say I hate thinking about RAID configs. Or RAID and SSDs. Or failing RAID arrays...
15:19 bshum @dontcare RAID
15:19 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  bshum no longer hates RAID.
15:19 miker ;)
15:19 Dyrcona bshum: Or HP RAID in particular?
15:20 bshum @hate HP
15:20 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  bshum hates HP.
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15:25 Dyrcona I usually test four or five branches at once, and add in our local customization branches.
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15:27 Dyrcona And, when I see signed off lp bugs that aren't fix committed, I'll sometimes merge those in, do a quick smoke test, then push them.
15:30 Dyrcona @loves
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15:30 pinesol_green Dyrcona loves git; scripted sign off; sed; OpenBSD; gnu/emacs; and git tag
16:52 mrpeters will it be gone before the next 2.8 release?
16:52 mrpeters berick: thansk
16:52 Dyrcona Nope. It will be gone in 2.9.
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17:01 Bmagic I give up, what table keeps the patron credit (when choosing to convert change to patron credit) ?
17:02 berick Bmagic: you'll never guess... actor.usr :)

Results for 2015-06-23

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14:27 _robbat2|irssi i want to get all the variance out of the main opensrf.xml file, and generate the included files
14:28 jboyer-isl If it's only that one line (inserted at line 34 of OpenSRF's System.pm) you could run a custom version of OpenSRF until it's accepted upstream. Of course, if your timeline is too short that might be a bit rough.
14:29 jboyer-isl Why not build the file from a template?
14:30 _robbat2|irssi right now, between dev+testing+production systems, I count 15+ unique opensrf.xml files
14:31 _robbat2|irssi and i've seen settings get left behind when copied around
14:31 _robbat2|irssi so I want to abstract what changes from what doesn't
14:31 _robbat2|irssi install the static opensrf.xml with xinclude statements  on every machine
14:31 _robbat2|irssi trivial to comapre
14:32 _robbat2|irssi and template the other changes only
14:35 jboyer-isl That would only fix the issue for passwords though, there are a lot of things in the default file that (likely) need to be changed. The min/max/standby/etc. number of servers for each service are a big one, and there are tons of those.
14:37 jboyer-isl I only looked into puppet enough to mention that it exists in my conference presentation, but I assume it allows you to build the file from a template with some variables generic to your whole installation and some specific to the machine it's being run on, all of our configs are unique to each machine but built from a single template.
14:39 jeff yeah, puppet gives you erb templating.

Results for 2015-06-22

10:23 yboston I just switched to 2.7 the MOnday after the last EG conference
10:24 yboston BW, I am not kidding that for the last three eyars at the EG cofnerence that bug has been mentioned to me by various folks
10:24 Dyrcona I believe you. I recall hearing it mentioned at one, at least.
10:25 Dyrcona Best thing is if we could set up a test to make it happen.
10:25 yboston It could have gone away, but from Dan's comments it might have been a feature and not in the sarcastic CYA way
10:25 Dyrcona That doesn't sound intentional to me.
10:26 Dyrcona I don't recall what MARC says about subfield order, if anything.
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10:53 krvmga https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1467559
10:53 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1467559 in Evergreen "# hash tag truncated in URL in Call Number (shelf browse)" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
10:56 Dyrcona Guess I should find a controlled field with more than 1 subfield to test lp 712490.
10:56 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 712490 in Evergreen "Subfield order in bib. record changes when editing authority" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712490
10:56 Dyrcona I did find an author with the $0 before the $a in the bre's 100.
10:56 dbwells krvmga: pretty sure I'm not Chris Sharp, but I've been called worse ;)
11:18 yboston I don't remember the details of the issue, I am attempting to quote what eeevil explained to me a while ago. My memory might be wrong
11:19 yboston s/I am/I was/
11:23 Dyrcona Yep. It took 72.575 seconds in the database.
11:25 Dyrcona Maybe I picked a bad one to test with.
11:25 Dyrcona We had two subject headings for Fables, so I merged them.
11:26 Dyrcona Looking at some records for books by Coelho, I don't see that the the fields changed order after the merge, but the most they have in that sugject is three, including the $0.
11:27 Dyrcona That should be "subfields changed order."
17:05 dbwells berick++
17:06 jonadab There are ice cream flavors besides chocolate?
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17:42 hopkinsju Stompro: My pleasure. Hope it is of use.

Results for 2015-06-21

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06:29 pgwhatever hi all, im trying to install the vanilla evergreen database only.  I download repo, git://git.evergreen-ils.org/Evergreen.git
06:30 pgwhatever but I cannot get eg_db_config.in to work nor underlying script, build-db.sh
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Results for 2015-06-20

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Results for 2015-06-19

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15:26 berick Dyrcona: yeah, IIRC, JSON looks just like python objects (dicts, arrays, strings)
15:26 Dyrcona berick: Thanks! That is what I thought.
15:26 berick so no need to do any translation like you have to do with perl objects => hashes, etc.
15:27 Dyrcona Think I'll just look up all of wife's circulations as a test.
15:27 Dyrcona I'd look up mine, but I have nothing checked out at the moment.
15:28 Dyrcona Do I say None for null?
15:29 berick yeah
16:02 Bmagic I just discovered that this table has doubles: config.coded_value_map . Anyone else have doubles? select code,count(*) from config.coded_value_map where ctype='vr_format' group by code order by code
16:02 Bmagic I wonder if it was a DB upgrade script somewhere
16:05 berick Dyrcona: yes
16:05 Dyrcona berick: Yeah, I was just testing it.
16:07 Dyrcona It's gonna be fun when I try to do date_trunc('day', now()) = date_trunc('day', due_date)... I'll probably need to refer to the great page on the wiki.
16:08 berick Dyrcona: yeah, i always have to scan the code for stuff like that.  might be easier to use between
16:11 jeff (as well as more performant on the postgres side)
16:47 jeff the only one i'm aware of is the logic in Dyrcona's Safari load script.
16:47 gmcharlt nah, I'll just cherry-pick on a Friday afternoon
16:47 Bmagic Dyrcona: Gotcha
16:47 bshum But we can test it.
16:48 Dyrcona Bmagic: As jeff pointed out, my safariload script checks for d in the leader and deletes bibs if found: http://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=j​ason/safariload.git;a=summary
16:49 Dyrcona You might be able to use it as an example/starting point.
16:49 Dyrcona And, while fiddling with my Python script, I discover that two of my wife's circs from 2011 have xact_finish set but no checkin_scan_time.
17:17 jeff gsams: are all of the items you want to change in a certain shelving location right now, or are they all over the place?
17:17 gsams single shelving location, changing to multiple locations
17:17 jeff what is the id of the single source shelving location?
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17:18 gsams It's actually 3819, I don't know why the one I pasted had that for the set, the new one is 4870.
17:19 gsams since it was based on the call number pattern, I figured singling out the owning library and call number pattern was the best option
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17:25 jeff gsams: i took your original query and updated it -- does this approach look better? Please don't run this "for real" on live data without appropriate safeguards, etc: https://gist.github.com/jeff/50f2999095e175c49362
17:25 gsams jeff: Thankfully, testing it on a backup.
17:26 jeff gsams: that FROM statement on the UPDATE query is how you do an UPDATE with a JOIN, essentially
17:26 mmorgan gsams: Again, the Friday afternoon brain, but you could *test* this one too, based on yours...
17:26 jeff and what would be your ON becomes just another part of the WHERE clause
17:26 pastebot "mmorgan" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "Possible query" (9 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/75
17:28 gsams mmorgan: Ah.  Yes now I understand what dumb I was actually perpetrating.

Results for 2015-06-18

09:45 mrpeters i can't seem to edit any MARC in staff client, nor via the DB
09:48 jeff mrpeters: recently added broken metabib field definition?
09:49 jeff mrpeters: as often is the case when something breaks, knowing what changed gives useful context.
09:49 mrpeters hmm, i dont think i've added any other than any that might have been added with the upgrade to 2.8.0
09:49 mrpeters this is just a test system
09:49 mrpeters so it was a 2.6.2 to 2.8.0 upgrade, many months ago -- i guess nobody had tried editing MARC on it until I did yesterday
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09:55 eeevil mrpeters: you've got broken xpath in config.metabib_field ... almost certainly mismatched namespace prefix in the xpath compared to what the format dictates. the format and namespace prefix are not necessarily the same. ISTR you running into this recently. see: select name, prefix from config.xml_transform;
09:56 eeevil or, maybe you had a bad predicate ... one of the two ...
10:16 jeff Ud Paté?
10:22 csharp berick: if you mistype something, a very slow train rolls by ;-)
10:25 berick funny thing is i mistyped that sentence.  s/the have/they have/
10:26 mrpeters fwiw regarding config.xml_transform, the tables are identical in production 2.6.2 and test 2.8.0
10:26 dbwells berick++  # I heard on the news last night you were downgraded to a depression, thought you could use a lift
10:27 * berick feels like he missed something
10:28 berick oh
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11:54 Dyrcona dbs: Maybe. I got a syntax error the other day, but maybe that was running a 2.7 script with the 3.4 executable.
11:54 * Dyrcona has a lot going on right now.
11:56 dbs berick: heh, you got a patch in while I was talking and testing :)
11:56 dbs berick: maybe we could combine patch forces to support both default protocol and just allowing the user to pass in the protocol explicitly as part of the gateway argument?
11:58 Dyrcona dbs: yes, print() works in 2.7. I just changed my test script.
11:58 Dyrcona When I'm doing something Evergreen-related, I'm expecting Perl, so my fingers want to type . instead of +.
11:59 berick dbs: works for me.  i thought about that, then got lazy
11:59 Dyrcona Cool thing. I can load my JSON files with my login credentials that I use in Perl and use those almost, as-is to login via Python.
16:52 Dyrcona git++
16:53 jeff [violent agreement]
16:53 jeff git++
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17:07 jeff regarding that test failure: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/​Bug/Display.html?id=105330
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17:09 jeff https://github.com/redhotpenguin/perl-Archive-Zip​/commit/9959caa2a2e27d64097420e2eab5f46ddf47726b
17:10 jeff amusingly, just moments ago.
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Results for 2015-06-17

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11:37 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] Remove alpha and RC scripts for 2.3-2.4 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c14dc20>
11:42 bshum gmcharlt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1442796 fell off the radar last maintenance cycle, but I'm hoping to get it through for you now.
11:42 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1442796 in Evergreen 2.7 "Record attribute definitions that use xpath can break bib ingest" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,New]
11:42 bshum I'm poking at the pgtap test next, since I haven't played with it personally.
11:49 bshum Actually maybe i'll wait on that one and spend more time on my pgtap setup later... *big sigh*
11:53 RoganH Is there a long term goal to get in pgtap tests that do things like test function output with concerto data?
11:56 rfrasur kmlussier: is there a color limitation (apart from trademark stuff)?
11:57 kmlussier rfrasur: Color limitation in what sense?
11:58 rfrasur 1 color imprint?  a cost function.  When this gets printed, are you going to some more or less expensive...
16:15 kmlussier berick: That's your first mistake.
16:15 Dyrcona heh
16:15 berick digitalgraphitti: release should be done today
16:16 digitalgraphitti we are looking to convert to evergreen very soon, and I have test installed onto wheezy a month ago, but have since upgraded to jessie and ran into problems, and decided to put it down until 2.8.2
16:16 jeff Also, as the description of sms.enable somewhat alludes, if you set it to false and users or staff edit their notification preferences (possibly other scenarios as well), SMS notification can be saved as unset for a user who previously had it set.
16:16 digitalgraphitti YAY i know what im doing tonight then, and it doesnt involve sleep hahaha
16:18 * bshum waits for kmlussier to finish so that cutting can commence shortly thereafter
16:48 Bmagic Is there any reason a copy can be deleted by nobody? According to the auditor table, there was no one responsible. The item went into transit, then a couple weeks later deleted by no one
16:49 berick voldemort did it
16:49 * kmlussier suspects it was pinesol_green
16:49 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
16:49 Bmagic Ah! I knew it
16:49 kmlussier Uh oh
16:49 Bmagic Will "Abort transit" make that happen somehow?
16:50 pastebot "mrpeters" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "could not create XPath object" (12 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/70
16:50 mmorgan Bmagic: Abort transit won't delete items. The row in the transit_copy is deleted when the transit is aborted.
16:50 mrpeters what fun have i gotten myself into with the could not create Xpath object stuff?
16:50 bshum Well that live test failure looks like a problem with installing Excel::Writer::XLSX on the wheezy system :\
16:50 * bshum wonders what might have happened there
16:50 mrpeters and the first line there should be helpful if anyone needs to ever add a 856$9 to some bibs
16:51 Bmagic mmorgan: I knew that "abort transit" will delete the row from transit_copy which is why I think someone must have used that function because there are no rows in there for this item. But it's also deleted by no one
16:51 mrpeters maybe worthy of a random magic spell entry, maybe :P

Results for 2015-06-16

04:52 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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10:06 berick localStorage.clear() // for example
10:06 berick probably same page :)
10:06 Dyrcona I probably want localstorage.removeItem("key")
10:07 berick yeah, though on my test system, it's the only key on this domain
10:08 * csharp waits for replacement plane at Dulles on the way to PGCon in Ottawa
10:09 Dyrcona Actually, I want sessionStorage.
10:09 Dyrcona localStorage has my login info, etc.
10:21 Dyrcona It doesn't look like it can be used to create instances in the same way as the Perl Fieldmapper.
10:22 Dyrcona I was just reading about creating classes, etc. on the fly in Python.
10:24 pinesol_green [sipserver|Bill Erickson] LP#1425135 Log message duration w/ millisecond granularity - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​SIPServer.git;a=commit;h=cffea8a>
10:26 berick Dyrcona: in python, the IDL tells opensrf about classes, then instnaces are created via the opensrf api.
10:26 berick Dyrcona: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergree​n.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/support-scri​pts/test-scripts/acq_fund.py;h=17f16b5a5​945d6655797d8d6688c8a426eddaa09;hb=HEAD
10:26 berick see the line: fund_source = osrf.net_obj.NetworkObject.acqfs()
10:27 * berick admits the API could be better there
10:29 Dyrcona I see. So I should look in the Python osrf source to see how the objects are created.
10:30 Dyrcona I'm so used to Fieldmapper::asset::copy->new().... ;)
10:30 berick yeah, and I also like the js-style var org = new egIDL.aou()
12:10 berick eeevil: was just about to try that...
12:13 * berick will know when cron picks it up in 2 minutes
12:17 berick eeevil: confirmed, that works
12:17 phasefx this looks minor: Failed test 'CStoreEditor returns standard query error' at live_t/08-lp1366964-libdbi-error.t line 31. got: 'DATABASE_UPDATE_FAILED' expected: 'DATABASE_QUERY_FAILED'
12:18 berick huh
12:18 Dyrcona berick: I confirmed with tsbere that our firewall is proxying FTP, so we don't need passive FTP.
12:19 * berick nods
12:22 berick kmlussier++
12:22 berick my brand is taking off!
12:22 Dyrcona heh
12:25 * phasefx will put a fix on lp902255 for the live test
12:26 Stompro Question about building the staff client - http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id​=mozilla-devel:building_the_staff_client - states that "The staff client is built as part of the “make install” process in a normal load."  Is that actually true?  It doesn't seem to be for me.
12:27 Dyrcona Stompro: It's not, you need to do some extra steps.
12:27 berick Stompro: the server pieces are, but the exe requires extra steps
13:43 Stompro re changing phone numbers, how about a phone number verification system, on a change, call the customer and read them a code that they need to enter to confirm the change.
13:45 jeff Stompro: while i don't want to require that, i'm interested in having that as an option for some things including email and sms.
13:47 berick Dyrcona: if you go the python route, let me know if you have any problems
13:48 Dyrcona berick: I'll have a look at it later. I've got some tests that use the PHP client that I can just modify to do what I need.
13:48 Dyrcona I want to see what this vendor sees for the item information look ups. They say certain copies still cause a problem.
13:50 * berick nods
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16:23 rangi yeah magnus did some work on that, i think he had it mostly done, ill need to catch up
16:23 Dyrcona cool. I think I made a change or two to my side to fix bugs since then.
16:23 Dyrcona He sent me a later some time ago about it.
16:34 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
16:38 Dyrcona And, starting around 1:00 am tomorrow morning, we'll be testing this in production: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/SIPServer.git;a=commit;h=c43cf​27771e78a857ab86abe0dba29bfc36683c3
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16:50 mmorgan :)
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16:53 jeff Since the list of user setting types to display in the user editor is hardcoded, and the only ones that are dynamic are opt-in settings, it's also no surprise that the default widget is a checkbox.
17:10 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:11 * mmorgan opts out. Good Evening, all!
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Results for 2015-06-14

05:14 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
16:56 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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19:55 berick @later tell kmlussier bug 1464767 -- I thought custom org trees were only used in the catalog.  am I missing something?
19:55 pinesol_green berick: The operation succeeded.

Results for 2015-06-13

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10:00 Stompro_home bshum, I think it should also remove the old library "libspreadsheet-writeexcel-perl", just like what was done for the wheezy/squeeze/precise/trusty dependency makefiles in LP#1351355.
10:00 bshum Stompro_home: Ah good point. I'll make some adjustment for that too and re-push it.
10:03 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: 'Cause it's complicated.
10:03 Stompro_home bshum, I'll try and test it this weekend or early next week, since the change is exactly the same as the other make files it seems like it could just be committed.
10:03 * Dyrcona voids some payments.
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10:04 bshum Stompro_home: Yep, sounds good.  I force pushed a new copy of the branch with the revised change.
10:30 Dyrcona jeff: We never target "Master" as a series.
10:31 Dyrcona At least, I never do.
10:31 Dyrcona No one else appears to.
10:33 jeff yeah. i was surprised to see it there and wondered what it would do if i checked it, so... i tested. :-)
10:33 jeff Dyrcona: but correct on the subject of changing milestone from Evergreen 2.next to 2.9-alpha if I intend it to be ready?
10:34 Dyrcona Yes.
10:34 jeff thanks!
10:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|blake] LP1424646 Paid-For Long Overdue Items Still Appear in "Other/Special Circulations" Window - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ac318a4>
10:47 Dyrcona berick: Should we backport that to 2.8?
10:48 berick Dyrcona: yes, i think so
10:48 Dyrcona OK. I'll do that now.
10:49 * Dyrcona is going to build a new dev branch, so thought I'd commit a couple of branches that I've tested, first.
10:49 Dyrcona bshum: Do you want the ruby fix for EDI in 2.7?
10:50 bshum Dyrcona: It might be a good idea actually
10:50 berick do we have a trusty installer in 2.7
12:41 berick Bmagic: just to be clear, the printer shows up in admin -> workstation -> printer settings -> configure printer
12:41 Bmagic I was pleased to see it there. Yes
12:42 Bmagic I configured it which prompted me a print dialog.  I clicked ok and it edited the JSON
12:42 berick ok, good
12:42 berick are you testing via "Test Printing" ?
12:42 Bmagic Yes
12:43 berick ok, are you running hatch in a terminal?
12:43 berick ... and seeing the debug output
12:46 berick it's not even trying to send the print job
12:46 Bmagic this is stock 2.7.0
12:46 Bmagic that could be it?
12:46 berick are you testing plain text or html printing?
12:46 Bmagic both
12:47 berick it would be better to test w/ EG master, but I can't say for sure that's the problem
12:47 Bmagic thanks! no worries, I will keep hammering on it
12:48 berick here's what hatch shows when I print.. http://pastie.org/10237584
12:48 Bmagic berick++
12:48 berick in your logs, do you see a line like the first line in my paste?  that's testing the Text print
12:52 Bmagic It's not showing the lines with the numbers for the print job. AKA n\n1234567890123456789012345678901234567890
12:55 berick no line that starts out 2015-06-12 12:42:35.453:INFO:WebSocke​tHandler:qtp2051450519-26: onMessage() {"action":"print",...
12:55 jeff If I were to advocate for removal of the per-hold customization of notifications, would anyone here strongly oppose that?
14:24 remingtron yboston: anything major to discuss post-hackfest?
14:25 yboston remingtron: sorry I missed your additions
14:25 remingtron no problem, they were late
14:26 yboston elizabeth_: no problem, but for the record witht he use of community test server you can help test our or docuemnt newer versiosn of EG. Also, we have docuemntation needs for features in older versions of EG
14:26 yboston elizabeth_: feel free to email me directly if you have any questiosn or comments
14:27 yboston remingtron: I can't think of anythign esle post coference, now that I blurted a few more things out to you during this meeting
14:27 Stompro_home yboston is a great mentor for getting up to speed with helping out with documentation.
14:27 yboston hands down this was the most effective DIG hackfest
14:27 elizabeth_ yboston: thanks! We're part of the SPARK Libraries so we really appreciate all the documentation
15:00 elizabeth_ Thank you all for the warm welcome.
15:01 yboston elizabeth_: btw, where is the SPARK system located?
15:01 elizabeth_ yboston: SPARK is a collection Pennsylvania Public Libraries
15:01 gmcharlt tsbere: I can your attention to bug 1464748 for SIPServer; it arose from my testing of your patches for 1463459
15:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1464748 in SIPServer "SIPServer tosses away current account prematurely" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464748
15:01 yboston elizabeth_: thanks
15:02 gmcharlt tsbere: upshot - I believe that branch should be reviewed and pushed as a unit
15:57 mmorgan jeff: FWIW I am also finding that at least a few of our users make use of different hold notification methods. You may find that more would if they had the option to receive text messages for some.
16:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Michael Peters] LP#1154656 MARC Expert Search "Add Rows" adds duplicate row - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7903e32>
16:00 Dyrcona bug_squashing_day++
16:00 jboyer-isl jeff: totally unnecessary dev database. But one of the problems with allowing perl in-db is that sometimes postgres can't cancel things itself (such as when you're testing stupid regex tricks)
16:03 jeff here, we're probably moving away from per-hold notification options, toward user settings.
16:05 Dyrcona rashma++ #testing braches
16:06 Dyrcona branches, even. ;)
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18:04 Bmagic have a good weekend everyone!
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08:05 csharp anyone using Windows 10 in production?  Now that MS is offering the upgrade to all Windows 7 users, our libraries are wondering if it's safe to do.
08:07 csharp I haven't tested anything myself, but I understand that nothing obvious is broken - I'm just concerned about how it will do under load (e.g., checking out 50 patrons in an hour) - we have enough problems with RAM usage on Windows 7 for me to want to introduce another factor in troubleshooting :-/
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09:20 mrpeters its a lot like ubuntu, really
09:20 mrpeters just start typing what you want and it comes up
09:20 Bmagic typing what you want started with Vista
09:20 RoganH I should disclaim that I have no personal opinion though it occurs to me that I might want to update my windows testing VM to 10 or build another one for it.
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09:33 jeff csharp: on the subject of users editing themselves... if they can't change home_ou or profile, would you still want them prevented from self-editing?
09:34 csharp jeff: let me think on that for a few minutes...
11:50 jeffdavis remingtron: http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/gitw​eb/?p=sitka/doc/manual.git;a=summary
11:51 jeffdavis There has been some asciidoc vs docbook discussion locally but I'm not sure where things have been left there.
11:53 mrpeters hey jeffdavis -- just the guy i was looking for :P  does your overdrive-eg-opac contrib branch work with 2.8.0?
11:55 jeffdavis mrpeters: it works with Sitka's somewhat-customized 2.8. I haven't tested with stock 2.8 yet (focused on preparing for our upgrade).
11:57 mrpeters no worries, jeffdavis thanks!
11:57 mrpeters did you just merge the contrib branch with your 2.8 custom branch?
11:58 jeffdavis Hang on a sec, I need to dig up a commit
11:58 mrpeters np
11:59 mrpeters i was thinking maybe i'd just cherry pick it one by one into rel_2_8 and install
12:00 jeffdavis We keep the overdrive-eg-opac code separate from Evergreen proper, with a couple of small tweaks to make the OPAC overdrive-eg-opac aware
12:00 mrpeters what would be the easisest method for integrating it into an already running 2.8.0 test system to try it out?
12:01 mrpeters if i were to clone your branch, can i just follow the readme -- or do i need it to be aware of the Evergreen codebase
12:03 jeffdavis You should be able to just follow the readme.
12:03 jeffdavis http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/gitweb/?p=​sitka/evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8d5d13
12:03 mrpeters awesome -- i wasn't sure if this was "on top of" Evergreen or its own module -- but now i see that it is the latter, which is great
16:05 kmlussier This - bug 902255
16:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 902255 in Evergreen "possible to double-scan an item during check-in and have it captured by two holds" (affected: 10, heat: 54) [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902255
16:06 Bmagic I wasn't aware of that setting on the UI, That is definiatly it
16:06 kmlussier I replicated it yesterday without async checkin. I hope to get that code tested again today or tomorrow.
16:08 Bmagic Oh wow, the code was just submitted on Monday
16:09 bshum It's an oldie
16:11 yboston phasefx: are you around?
16:12 yboston phasefx: I have a question about docs@evergreen-ils.org
16:15 phasefx yboston: I'm here
16:16 yboston phasefx: I sent a test email to that address earlier, did you geta copy?
16:16 phasefx yboston: I did
16:16 yboston phasefx: OK, just checking.
16:17 yboston phasefx: a community member had a bounce back and I did not get copies on my work account, but I got a copy on my personla account
16:17 yboston phasefx: just making sure
16:17 phasefx fwiw, prior to your test, the last one I saw was back in February
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11:15 mrpeters but the scripts give a file not found when it uses FTP
11:15 mrpeters if i change it to http:// in the Makefile and friends it works great
11:18 pastebot "mrpeters" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "FTP fail" (9 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/65
11:18 jboyer_isl mrpeters: It may be a passive/active FTP issue. I had trouble building clients at one point when I was testing and it was network related. http links do get around that though since you’re not limited to ftp’s crusty antique-ness re: port use.
11:18 mrpeters that could be -- it does use PASV
11:19 jboyer_isl Or firewalling, there’s a limitless list of potential issues.
11:21 mrpeters ill push it up to working, if you guys want to commit it cool, if not, at least its out there
12:38 kmlussier bshum++
12:39 Dyrcona bshum++
12:44 jeffdavis Dyrcona: thanks for the bib deletion script
12:45 Dyrcona jeffdavis: You're welcome. It has been over a year since I tested it, so it might need some changes.
12:47 jeffdavis Understood. I'll need to make adjustments anyway to accommodate some of our local requirements, but it's nice to have something solid to work with. :)
12:48 bshum berick: Fwiw, I also tested those TT2 changes (for locale, etc.) and think that merging to master only is a fine start.  Backporting the new with the fix was trickier.
12:49 bshum So consider that my +1 to those three bugs
12:49 bshum Err, LPs
12:51 berick thanks bshum
12:58 mrpeters refresher -- what is the correct tag that needs a signoff?
12:59 mrpeters *correct tag for a bug...
13:01 mrpeters https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1361900
13:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1361900 in Evergreen "Acq: Move Acqusitions Admin Menu" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Michael Peters (mrpeters)
13:02 mrpeters ^ fixed if anyone wants to test/signoff
13:05 kmlussier mrpeters: pullrequest
13:07 mrpeters ok, i thought that was for committers only, sorry
13:30 kmlussier We've had a pretty active Bug Squashing Day so far! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y0wCUuQju6​YpeSKVn1t8QaL6SSvK900ixuPBXSPMF0U/edit?usp=sharing
13:57 mrpeters kmlussier: fair enough
14:01 mrpeters is there a way to search for users who need signoffs?
14:03 Dyrcona mrpeters: You could do advanced search and look for bugs with the pullrequest tag.
14:03 kmlussier Interesting discovery on my part. The due dates for Concerto transactions are not 11:59 p.m. as would be the case for checkouts in a real system. Led to an anomaly in my testing that almost kept me from signing off on bug 638509
14:03 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 638509 in Evergreen 2.8 "renewing lost items fails unintuitively" (affected: 7, heat: 34) [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638509
14:03 mrpeters yeah, i just didn't know if those were already being handled by committers
14:04 kmlussier mrpeters: I have a link on the bug squashing day wiki page to those bugs, but it's basically what Dyrcona just said. I've also been encouraging people to assign bugs to themselves if they are testing the.
14:04 kmlussier s/the/them
14:05 Dyrcona mrpeters: Committers often assign themselves to the bugs when they're actively looking at them.
14:06 Dyrcona I sometimes forget to do that.
14:07 jeff kmlussier: keep in mind that a "real system" can have non-11:59 PM due dates.
14:07 kmlussier StomproJ: I just finished up with the Sandbox I was using. If you want, I could load the updated branch from tsbere so that you can see if it addressed the nocache issue you found.
14:08 kmlussier jeff: Yeah, but what I considered to be an anomaly would be considered correct behavior in that situation.
14:09 kmlussier Basically, I was tracking two parallel transactions to ensure that fines were handled the same way when one was checked in and the other renewed. I had been thinking the 2 transactions had the same due date, but the due times were an hour apart.
14:09 kmlussier And I just happened to do my test in between those 2 due times.
14:11 StomproJ kmlussier, that would be great.
14:15 StomproJ So, should apache mod_headers be enabled by default for evergreen installs?  Maybe it was enabled by default by apache in Squeeze but now isn't included in Jessie?
14:16 tsbere StomproJ: I don't think so, and my extra change doesn't make it needed for the cache clearing code
14:27 eeevil mrpeters: that's different
14:27 csharp so... I'm trying to fix bug 914800 (as is mrpeters) - I've added the code and description to ils_events.xml, but I'm still getting the ugly skull and crossbones-style error rather than a simple alert box with the error and description
14:27 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 914800 in Evergreen "Attempting to merge user in collections provides an unfriendly error message" (affected: 3, heat: 18) [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914800 - Assigned to Michael Peters (mrpeters)
14:27 mrpeters 10-4 -- consider it tested and signed off by me, as well then -- wasnt sure if Rashma would get the message
14:28 csharp what does someone need to do to get that to work?  the calls in the code OpenILS::Event->new() seem to be identical
14:28 csharp mrpeters: rashma is here in channel too, FYI
14:28 mrpeters ah, my mistake
15:33 bshum b_bonner++ # git powah!
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15:49 terran I've posted a fix (I hope) for this one if anyone has time to test: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1396263
15:49 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1396263 in Evergreen "SMS 'Return to Record' link breaks after texting if user has to log in" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Medium,Confirmed]
16:24 berick tsbere: are you using bug 1347807 on a live server?  i'm curious how it's being used.
16:24 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1347807 in Evergreen "Add examples config blocks for "No Image" jacket images" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347807
16:52 kmlussier You could, but if you update LP, I'll get the notification too.
16:53 kmlussier Oops! Answering questions in channel that were asked somewhere else. :)
16:56 Dyrcona :)
17:07 * kmlussier is hitting the road, but may test two more things before the day is done.
17:07 kmlussier Thanks everyone for all the work you did today!
17:07 berick kmlussier++
17:07 berick right back atcha
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21:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Blake Henderson] LP#1194860: You have permission to override some of the failed holds. appearing when it should not for patrons in the OPAC Edit - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=adc2aff>
21:09 kmlussier And the bshum merging begins! :D
21:10 kmlussier b_bonner++
21:10 bshum kmlussier: I'm just doing the lazy part.
21:10 bshum But thanks to everyone who tested and signed off.
21:11 kmlussier Another signoff is on its way
21:12 kmlussier And then I'm going to bed. Been up since 3:30 a.m.
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