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Results for 2016-02-11

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15:14 lualaba hello time to time on my server processes died
15:14 lualaba * timed out waiting on open-ils.acq pid=37626 to die * cannot signal open-ils.acq: process 37626 is not running * sending TERM signal to pid=37604 router * sending TERM signal to pid=37605 router
15:15 lualaba after restart osrf everyrhing is working
15:19 lualaba this is in logs: evergreen CRON[50526]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ))
15:23 jeff lualaba: that log entry is expected -- it's cron running daily tasks. it is possible that you are running out of memory, in which case you'll probably have a recent note to that effect in the output of dmesg or in the file /var/log/dmesg (and likely some other places as well)
15:23 jeff lualaba: how much memory does the machine have?
15:27 lualaba 2 GB ram
15:41 lualaba Thank you, there is any suggestion to disable some of services or jobs?
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16:02 Dyrcona lualaba: If you're not using acq, you could probably disable that. There are not that many you can actually disable without causing problems.
16:02 Dyrcona lualaba: You could also configure fewer minimum drones and maximum drones. I've done that for test and development servers.
16:04 * Dyrcona would like to make it so that circ does not depend on booking, for instance.
16:04 * Dyrcona had an idea how to do it once, but ran out of tuits.
16:04 lualaba how fewer minimum drones and maximum drones?
16:08 Dyrcona lualaba: You don't want to set <min_children> below 1, though.
16:08 Dyrcona miker: I think we tried once and circ blew up.
16:08 Dyrcona miker:  I know there are calls to open-ils.booking in there. give me a minute.
16:09 miker related to Dyrcona's advice (for the room), I have a branch that needs testing that teaches C apps how to respect {min|max}_spare_servers, like perl does (or is supposed to)
16:10 miker Dyrcona: yeah, there are def calls, but I thought we had fenced those off, and there was even a setting at one time to say "booking is not running, don't even try to use it"
16:10 Dyrcona lualaba: Also, I would keep <max_children> at or above 2 also.
16:11 lualaba i check and in most cases parameter is 15
16:11 lualaba <min_children>5</min_children>                     <max_children>15</max_children>
16:17 Dyrcona I'll give it a try next time I build a new branch on my development vm.
16:17 miker I had the advantage of helping senator with that particular feature. and dbwells was involved as well, I think...
16:18 Dyrcona lualaba: Yeah, those are defaults. I've found in some production environments they need to be higher.
16:19 Dyrcona lualaba: If you're testing/kicking the tires, you can probably drop most of the <max_children> settings.
16:19 lualaba 4 GB ram will be enough
16:19 Dyrcona I have numbers for how many drones are spawned on our production servers, but not for training or development.
16:19 lualaba tomorrow i will try increase nd after that will change settings
16:20 Dyrcona lualaba: 4GB is cutting it close with the database running on the same hardware.
16:20 lualaba this mean i should move DB  on another server?
16:21 Dyrcona It should work with the right tuning. If you don't want to test booking or acq, I'd out right disable those services.
16:21 miker lualaba: for production, almost certainly. or add a lot of CPU cores to the VM (if it's a VM)
16:21 lualaba yes it is VM
16:21 Dyrcona Oh, right. I would not run production on 4GB.
16:22 Dyrcona I use 6GB for development and I do run the database on is own server.
16:22 Dyrcona Granted, that database server also runs our training and other test databases.
16:23 Dyrcona What you need for production depends a lot on your size and how many transactions you do.
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16:23 lualaba Thank you for information i will try some of changes in opensrf.xml

Results for 2016-02-10

05:16 csharp @later tell bshum re: bug 1486592... I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be targeted for 2.10 as long as someone tests/signs off
05:16 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.
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06:52 bshum csharp: Sure, I had a feeling that would be the case, but since you put needstest on it, I assumed it was still work in progress of some sort. I just don't like bugs without a milestone cause they're harder to filter for.
07:46 csharp bshum: is there a better way than "needstest" to indicate "all this is waiting for is a test and signoff"?
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08:35 bshum csharp: "needstest" is the tag that is meant for bugs that require additional tests to be added, like unit test, pgTap, etc.
08:36 csharp bshum: ohhhhh
08:36 csharp ok - got it
08:36 bshum It doesn't mean test me, that's what "pullrequest" is for
08:36 csharp aha - okay - my bad
08:37 bshum No worries, at least I think that's what it means. Hopefully I haven't been using it wrong either.. :)
08:38 csharp I'm sure you're right about that
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09:38 kmlussier Ah, that explains things. I was perplexed as to why the new Concerto data needed a test. ;)
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09:42 tsbere kmlussier: To ensure that it is in fact the data that is expected! ;)
09:48 Dyrcona Thank you, Rhythmbox for sorting Vivaldi under A for Antonio.
10:44 pinesol_green maryj missed something.
10:47 Dyrcona So, it boils down to our production being affected by lp 1414112.
10:47 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1414112 in Evergreen 2.7 "Audience filter no longer searching blank spaces" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414112
10:47 Dyrcona I will test on training.
10:52 Dyrcona Yes, it is fixed on our training server which is running 2.9.1.
10:53 Dyrcona So, I can say, "fixed at our next update."
10:54 tsbere I get to be happy that I don't have to change the code I wrote that is involved. ;)
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12:56 jeffdavis I'm getting a perplexing error from a Perl live test I'm working on: Can't locate object method "create_actor_org_unit_setting" via package "OpenILS::Utils::CStoreEditor" at live_t/12-lp1533329-opt-in.t line 80.
12:56 jeffdavis http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/gitweb/?p=sitka/​evergreen.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/liv​e_t/12-lp1533329-opt-in.t;h=690167a;hb=4987b9d
12:57 Dyrcona jeffdavis: You need to either init CStoreEditor or the Fieldmapper or both.
12:58 jeffdavis Dyrcona: I think I am initializing CStoreEditor correctly:
12:58 jeffdavis my $e = new_editor(xact => 1);
16:09 tsbere current_copy is for "captured" and "pull list" lookup, basically. The hold copy maps cover opportunistic capture. I don't think prev_check_time should stay null, though...
16:10 dbs ahcm should be populated when hold_targeter is run, and ahr.prev_check_time should be set when hold_targeter is run too
16:10 JBoyer dbs opportunistic holds kind of run in reverse, because what you're checking is for holds at the location the item is returned to, not the location that owns it, etc. like the pull lists care about. (Still doesn't explain why that wasn't targeted though. :( )
16:10 dbs okay. I'll check on that in a future test when I have a few minutes
16:10 mmorgan dbs: one more shot in the dark - Did the hold specify mint_condition = true, and the copy mint_condition = false?
16:11 dbs But our circ staff have filed tons of tickets about books getting checked in, and then a few hours later they show up on the holds shelf pull list, rather than flagged at checkin time
16:11 dbs mmorgan: lemme see

Results for 2016-02-09

11:43 Dyrcona I mostly poke around with PgAdmin to see what's what.
11:43 lualaba_ same here :)
11:43 lualaba_ but i spent a lot of time
11:44 Dyrcona Also, I highly recommend having a test/development database set up so you don't break production.
11:44 Dyrcona Yes, it is time consuming.
11:44 lualaba_ what i need now is to know relations between tables
11:45 Dyrcona I think someone made a relational chart of the database once, but I could have hallucinated that.
12:43 Dyrcona The ones with the $9 by itself the value of $9 is the consortium shortname.
12:44 Dyrcona Some how, I don't think that is enough to make it show up, but I'll do a search before changing the flag.
12:45 Dyrcona And, I'm naturally logged in at the wrong library. :)
12:45 Dyrcona But, it's a good test anyway. :)
12:46 Dyrcona So, yep, the $9 MVC by itself doesn't do anything. The $u has to be there.
12:50 jeff were you hoping to use/abuse the feature to have some records that didn't have URIs show up somewhere?
12:50 jeff or just testing an edge case?
12:53 Dyrcona jeff: Just testing what it does in general.
12:53 * jeff nods
12:53 Dyrcona We have a couple buckets of electronic records that catalogers/reference staff want things done to, so I'm testing some of those things.
12:54 Dyrcona I'm not sure where the $9 MVC by itself comes, probably cataloging staff.
12:54 Dyrcona I've not mangled the records for real, yet. :)
12:54 Dyrcona Someone else was probably trying to get them to show up.
15:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1526547 Prevent bogus notes when adjusting lost/lod overdues - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=98477d3>
15:18 kmlussier2 snow--
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16:08 berick kmlussier: re: bug 1474051 did you confirm your org unit table had more values before applying the patch?  that almost sounds like an install without the seed/test data installed.
16:08 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1474051 in Evergreen "Avoid storing partial credit card payment info" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474051
16:09 kmlussier berick: I'm using tsbere's script that merges the patch before the install. But I've done other installs today on the same machine without any problem. There's also other seed data in the tables.
16:12 berick kmlussier: grr, I see the problem.  base schema is missing a ","

Results for 2016-02-08

15:05 dbs which (at least in our 2.7-ish instance) defines title as "LEFT JOIN metabib.full_rec title ON r.id = title.record AND title.tag = '245'::bpchar AND title.subfield = 'a'::text"
15:06 dbs and once you work that out, you would need to then refresh the metabib.materialized_simple_record table
15:10 Stompro dbs, Thanks for the info.
15:10 dbs Stompro: I think that's right, anyway - you probably want to try on a test server first :)
15:13 JBoyer To zoom out even further, you'll want to look (in the IDL) at what your reporter is using: reporter.simple_record or repoter.super_simple_record. I haven't looked at what's used where yet, but rssr uses a materialized view built from a trigger on biblio.record_entry, while rsr is using a large multi-join view instead.
15:16 JBoyer Ok, they're both views, but rssr is just a simple select against reporter.materialized_simple_record.
15:16 dbs JBoyer: which is in turn built from rsr

Results for 2016-02-05

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06:57 chreeus jeff: I just ran a test of the UMS script and it's in random order each time too
06:57 chreeus so probably worth opening a master bug about needing EG to refactor code around Perl's hash randomization changes
07:36 JBoyer I'm finding Kroger's use of hydrophobic materials for their tea bags to be less amusing with each passing cup.
07:37 JBoyer (Rod Sterling)Imagine, if you will, teabags that float serenely atop the hot water within your mug, content to look out over the despair of their ruined, flavorless world.(/Rod Sterling)
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16:57 miker dbs: that was precisely my reaction when gmcharlt mentioned this new "fun" earlier :)
16:58 miker "didn't we deal with this for perl 5.8?!?!"
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17:30 kmlussier Stompro: In case you missed it, what bshum just said (reingest). We just came across that same thing earlier this week. Luckily, it was on a test system. :)
17:31 kmlussier Stompro: But I would advise you to look carefully at your icon definitions to see if there are others you want to do, so that you can cover them all with one reingest.
18:31 Stompro Thanks kmlussier, we need to fix an issue quick, so need to do it tonight.
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Results for 2016-02-04

06:35 jeff commit a5d2ba32
06:36 jeff maybe a working repo commit? i don't recall if pinesol_green reacts to those.
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06:44 kmlussier hmmmm
06:46 kmlussier chreeus: On bug 1541801, we noticed the same issue in the web client when we were testing Z39.50.
06:46 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1541801 in Evergreen "search fields in z39.50 sort in random order" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541801
06:47 kmlussier chreeus: I wonder if work on the web client caused the change in the xul client interface
07:02 chreeus kmlussier: that's our theory
07:03 bshum chreeus, jeff: right pinesol doesn't track working
07:04 bshum I think it was mostly a matter of avoiding double reporting since it would likely spit back master changes in both repos
07:05 bshum Never quite tested beyond that.
07:06 kmlussier Using working to look up commits would be useful. Getting an announcment every time somebody pushes a branch to working? Not so much.
07:06 bshum Hmm
07:10 bshum kmlussier: Well what would happen is that it would only announce master changes
07:18 pinesol_green bshum: evg-working (Evergreen-Working, branch: master)
07:18 pinesol_green bshum: opensrf (OpenSRF, branch: master)
07:18 pinesol_green bshum: sipserver (SIPServer, branch: master)
07:18 bshum I'm going to test an idea
07:18 bshum and try asking it to track another branch for announce
07:18 bshum if it works anyways
07:19 bshum @git repolist
07:19 pinesol_green bshum: evergreen (Evergreen, branch: master)
07:19 pinesol_green bshum: evg-working (Evergreen-Working, branch: master)
07:19 pinesol_green bshum: opensrf (OpenSRF, branch: master)
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09:44 JBoyer Dyrcona++
09:45 JBoyer Thanks for the help yesterday re: deadlocks, we were able to load 100K+ records in an hour or so in our test, migrations here are going to look at a lot different in the future.
09:45 JBoyer look a lot. I try not to look directly into the operational end of a migration in progress..
09:46 jeff JBoyer: ``Do not look into laser with remaining good eye.''
09:47 JBoyer I feel like I should know that, but it's not coming to me.
10:25 JBoyer Completely unrelated news: This morning I tracked down the application guide for a temp/humidity sensor I've been looking for and I haven't been this excited to play around with code since I was playing with OpenGL in my college dorm room.
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11:30 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1494486: Limit damage caused by dropped drone XMPP sockets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=5580724>
11:36 pinesol_green [opensrf|Jason Etheridge] LP#1474507: fix interval_to_seconds for weeks and seconds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=69cbe80>
11:36 pinesol_green [opensrf|Jason Etheridge] LP#1474507: tests for interval_to_seconds - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=7a714ae>
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12:51 JBoyer Ah, makes sense.
13:12 pinesol_green [opensrf|Galen Charlton] LP#1350457: add test case for perl2JSONObject change - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=b6cf3eb>
13:12 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1350457: Pass caller's session to subrequests called via method_lookup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=e1581d4>
13:36 * chreeus wonders if the addition of UPC to the fields in commit 2038e93a caused weird sorting in bug 1541801
13:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1541801 in Evergreen "search fields in z39.50 sort in random order" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541801
13:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP#1519925 - Allow MARC Federated Search to search UPC index of local catalog. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2038e93>
14:35 yboston shoudl we make it an action item to have a DIG member check with the devs about what is productionr eady for 2.10?
14:36 remingtron I can't remember what gmcharlt (the release manager) said his goals were
14:36 remingtron but I think it was only circ desk use.
14:36 jihpringle will there be a web client test server for 2.10?  We're not planning to release the web client to our libraries until we make the final switch so it won't be part of our test server
14:36 jihpringle ^^ community web client test server for 2.10
14:38 remingtron Here's gmcharlt's "plan for 2.10":
14:38 remingtron #link http://georgialibraries.markma​il.org/thread/wlnvqe53umjjevae
14:38 yboston we can hope that the "webby" server would get updated for us to use
14:39 remingtron I think yes, someone should probably ask gmcharlt or whomever has power over webby
14:39 remingtron yboston++
14:40 jihpringle yboston++
14:40 gmcharlt well, it won't be webby, which is primarily for testing by the funding partners for the web staff client sprints, but we can update the ESI-hosted demo server to 2.10 closer in
14:40 yboston #action yboston will check in with 2.10 release manager (gmcharlt ) about havign Webby ready for us to use and confirmation of what is produciton ready in the web client
14:41 gmcharlt strike that action item, please, per my statement above
14:41 yboston damm I typed too slow
14:55 yboston or somethign along those lines
14:55 yboston thoughts?
14:55 sandbergja Sounds good to me
14:55 remingtron yboston: do we already have a test DIG server?
14:55 krvmga good idea.
14:55 yboston remingtron: it is not set up
14:55 gmcharlt indeed, that's available
14:59 dluch yboston++
14:59 jihpringle yboston++
15:00 Christineb yboston++
15:00 chreeus dbs: I'm creating a PG 9.3 test VM to test your implicit sorting theory - it sounds like it would explain everything
15:05 kmlussier yboston++
15:06 Stompro Stompro
15:06 * Stompro oops
15:16 chreeus kmlussier: is it 9.4?
15:16 jeff ah, see... i went with differing perl versions, didn't think about differing postgres versions. :-)
15:17 kmlussier chreeus; Nope 9.3.10
15:17 chreeus hmm
15:17 chreeus my non-random-sorting server is PG 9.3
15:18 chreeus 9.3.10
15:18 chreeus argh
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15:23 chreeus ok - gonna build a precise VM with PG 9.4 to test the perl version issu
15:23 chreeus e
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15:27 jeff chreeus: what are the perl versions in question?
15:27 jeff oh, i see you provided that elsewhere.
15:28 kmlussier chreeus: I'm updating the bug, but I was on 5.18.2 as well
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15:29 jeff Perl 5.18 introduced major changes in hashes, including changes that affect order.
15:29 jeff and randomization.
15:29 jeff see http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5180delta.html
15:30 jeff under "Hash overhaul"
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15:30 jeff iirc, we hit those changes with some tests, which needed to be adjusted slightly.
15:32 kmlussier I've updated the bug and now try remembering exactly what it was I was working on today.
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15:33 jlitrell An excellent time to interrupt you with exclusion checkboxes.  :-D
16:38 jeff my gut reaction to the idea is rather curmudgeonly.
16:39 jeff it might be possible, moreso now with the ability to fetch jackets by record id. i don't know if the receipt templates have been prevented from pulling remote images now or not.
16:46 jeff jihpringle: are you doing this in the self checkout interface with success?
16:46 jihpringle I just had a library tell me that they print out on the self check items out receipt
16:46 jihpringle I need to test myself to double check
16:48 jeff i'm curious if they're printing in greyscale on a receipt printer, or printing to a letter sized sheet on a laser/inkjet, black and white or color, etc.
16:52 jihpringle I'll do some testing and find out more details from the library
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Results for 2016-02-03

10:58 kmlussier Dyrcona: Nope
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11:00 Dyrcona OK. I plan to start up my precise vm to update the software, then maybe make a new vm for concerto.
11:00 Dyrcona I use the latter to test tarballs and run the perl and db tests.
11:03 Dyrcona BTW, I plan to finally release 2.9.2 on the 17th.
11:16 JBoyer I wonder how many users actually make use of wildcard searching, vs those that think that you really do have to search for M*A*S*H to find the DVD you want...
11:16 Dyrcona JBoyer: I'm going to build just master on my concerto vm to see if the grunt all command still fails.
11:31 kmlussier JBoyer: Does it work if you surround it in quotes?
11:32 Dyrcona I don't think I would enter MASH that way, and I usually search in lowercase, 'cause the shift key is hard. :)
11:32 kmlussier Actually, it works with and without quotes
11:33 JBoyer It's quicker with the quotes, but neither of my tests took 90+ seconds like the search that was in my log analyzer...
11:34 JBoyer I'm with Dyrcona, it just seems like such a tedious thing to type. What do these people say out loud?  "What are you looking for?" "Emm, star, aye, star, ess, star, aich."
11:34 kmlussier JBoyer: Yeah, I tried it on C/W MARS. The unquoted one was longer, but it wasn't terrible.
11:35 JBoyer My test was fine too, there must have been something else about when they searched, or the phase of the moon, etc.
11:36 JBoyer The person that searched for the entire copy/pasted contents of a Google Play book search page must have had some interesting ideas.
11:36 * Dyrcona should automate the prerequisite installation for OpensRF and Evergreen on his VMs. It will save time without typos.
11:37 * JBoyer knows a guy...
11:54 tsbere Stompro: Fair note, that is (obviously) a little dated, and doesn't take into account details like parts being flagged as deleted.
11:54 tsbere So if you have that code loaded there are adjustments that need to be made
11:55 Stompro I don
11:55 Dyrcona I think grunt test failed, but I'll try it manually in a bit.
11:56 Dyrcona It scrolls by so fast.
11:56 Stompro tsbere, I don't think that 2.8.4 has the parts deletion bits, no deleted field in biblio.monograph_parts here.
11:57 tsbere Stompro: Specifically, the "SELECT INTO existing_part id FROM... line would need to have "AND NOT deleted" added to the where clause when you do have the flag.
12:10 Dyrcona It stats with couldn't load egCoreWeb because of the above.
12:11 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Fresh checkout of master.
12:11 Dyrcona Fresh vm.
12:11 Dyrcona That happens with grunt test.
12:12 Dyrcona The test output is "this should parse the IDL"
12:14 gmcharlt Dyrcona: OK, I think I see what the problem is, one moment
12:14 berick if it's a new dependency, it may need to be added to the test manifest
12:15 gmcharlt ayup
12:17 gmcharlt Dyrcona: check the tip of collab/gmcharlt/webstaff-sprint2-sprint3-round2
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12:21 Dyrcona gmcharlt++ that resolves it.
12:21 Dyrcona Should I just cherry-pick that into master since it is a fix for a test?
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12:28 berick Dyrcona: +1 to cherry-pick
12:28 gmcharlt +1
12:29 gmcharlt Dyrcona++
12:29 Dyrcona breick++
12:29 Dyrcona berick++
12:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] webstaff: add angular-file-saver to test manifest - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e32a1d4>
12:35 csharp @karma breick
12:35 pinesol_green csharp: Karma for "breick" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
12:35 csharp @karma chreeus
13:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1499086 in Evergreen 2.9 "Slowness/timeout on loading bookbags in OPAC" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499086
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13:46 csharp new_glasses++
13:48 bshum jeffdavis: If as you're working through and see stuff that will be signed off or tested as part of 2.10 I would go ahead and update the bug
13:49 bshum Otherwise, it's just extra churn to update the milestone for work that may go unfinished and end up back on 2.next or later
13:51 * Dyrcona agrees with bshum.
13:51 jeffdavis Makes sense, thanks.
14:12 JBoyer Is anyone using the migration tools to load bibs in parallel? We're working on a local method because a single process isn't getting it done, but we're hitting deadlocks on occasion. I know there's src/extras/import/parallel_pg_loader.pl but I don't think it's ready to use as-is for the output of the migration tools.
17:14 gsams mmorgan: I appreciate it, I'd still be interested because it might be relevant for another library if nothing else
17:16 mmorgan ok will dig up the info tomorrow. Good night all!
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17:58 jeffdavis So I'm in the middle of writing a Perl live test for the opt-in feature.
17:58 jeffdavis One of the test steps is to opt in a patron with open-ils.actor.user.org_unit_opt_in.create.
17:59 jeffdavis I want to return to a "clean" state when the testing is done, so I need to delete the opt-in during my test.
18:00 jeffdavis But there's no method for deleting opt-ins, and I can't delete arbitrary records with something like json_query (it only does SELECT statments, IIRC).
18:00 jeffdavis So I'm thinking the easiest solution is just to add a new open-ils.actor.user.org_unit_opt_in.method to EG.
18:00 jeffdavis Which we ought to have anyway.
18:00 jeffdavis Here ends a case study in why tests are a Good Thing.
18:01 jeffdavis (a new open-ils.actor.user.org_unit_opt_in.delete method, that is)
18:08 dbwells jeffdavis: or pcrud?  (not familiar with the feature, just throwing it out there)
18:09 * dbwells is not familiar with opt-in.  He knows about pcrud :)
18:10 jeffdavis dbwells: pcrud ought to work, unless there's some reason live tests can't use it.
18:10 jeffdavis I just like the idea of tests giving me an excuse to add a new feature. :)
18:16 miker jeffdavis: pcrud or cstore should work fine in live tests
18:16 miker fwiw
18:16 dbwells Well, live tests can do about whatever they want, so even cstore's an option.
18:16 dbwells right :)
18:17 jeffdavis good to know
18:20 dbwells We've got plenty of CRUD methods hanging around in EG, so not a big deal, but if simple client access is something desirable, think of pcrud as a good way to _not_ add a new feature :)
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Results for 2016-02-02

08:22 Dyrcona pinesol_green: Got any laters for me?
08:22 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Have you confirmed your ISBN SPIDs with your service provider?
08:22 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
08:25 kmlussier Dyrcona: No laters, but gmcharlt mentioned last night that  collab/gmcharlt/webstaff-sprint2-sprint3-round2 is ready for testing.
08:36 Dyrcona OK. Looks like i use the round2 branch.
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08:38 jeff and we have reached the point in the morning where i wish i had a rolling packet capture on all SIP2 traffic.
14:37 tsbere May need some adjusting for you as I hardcoded a bib source or two in the bibs sans call numbers query
14:38 * tsbere has that (and some other things) running nightly for MVLC, though I think we have upped the period variable to 90 days instead of 30
14:39 kmlussier gsams: I just checked. Transferring items to volumes will delete the volume too if it's left empty.
14:40 gsams kmlussier++ #I appreciate the quick test!
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14:40 kmlussier gsams: I just happened to be in holdings maintenance when you asked the question. :)
14:41 tsbere I know empty volumes still crop up for us. Probably from failed creates and other things.
14:43 * jeff tries to sort out his feelings for call numbers like "DVD AVE RATED PG-13"
14:43 Bmagic_ yeah, lol
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14:46 kmlussier OK, everything looks okay on Dyrcona's test system. I think I'm ready to merge the sprint2/sprint 3 branch
14:47 kmlussier Thank you, cat, for hitting the Enter key before I was done.
14:47 tsbere kmlussier: The cat apparently thought it was a good place to stop.
14:47 kmlussier Does the branch need an LP bug before I merge it?
14:48 kmlussier tsbere: Yeah, he then hit All Caps afterwards, which is why it took me a while to pose my next question.
15:30 csharp and that's obviously not what the feature was built to accommodate
15:31 csharp yeah, I'll play with that in the short term
15:31 tsbere csharp: If you want standing penalties to generally be at the top level then set the depths to 0. I think that will generally work across the board.
15:31 csharp tsbere: cool - I'll do some testing
15:31 tsbere We set many of them that way, if you want to poke me on some of that
15:31 csharp thanks!
15:32 tsbere We also have some "System-level" versions that staff can set for more local issues (blocking another library's patron from their library, for example)

Results for 2016-02-01

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09:44 kmlussier Dyrcona++ gmcharlt++
09:47 Dyrcona kmlusser: I might have to build a new branch after the rebase if you want to continue testing on my development system.
09:48 Dyrcona If that's the case, do you want to just load the sprint2-sprint3 branch, and maybe the patron editor branch?
09:53 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, that's fine. That's all I'm focusing on ATM
09:55 Dyrcona I could reload the database in the meantime, and probably should.
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10:16 Dyrcona kmlussier: Would want the hotkeys branch?
10:16 Dyrcona Should be a "you" in there somewhere.
10:17 kmlussier Dyrcona: I'll probably be testing that soon after the sprint2 branch goes in, so yes.
10:17 * kmlussier checks to see if there is even a pullrequest tag on that one.
10:18 kmlussier gmcharlt: Do you want a pullrequest on bug 1508477?
10:18 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1508477 in Evergreen "browser client: hotkeys don't work if an input element has focus" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508477
10:18 kmlussier It's worked very well in my testing on webby. Even if there is still work left to be done, it would be nice to have it in before 2.10
10:20 Dyrcona I can always add it again later.
10:21 gmcharlt kmlussier: sure
10:23 Dyrcona I just figured that I put the branch together with what's ready so I could run upgrade scripts before hand.

Results for 2016-01-29

09:00 kmlussier Dyrcona++
09:01 Dyrcona My hunch is that it will resolve lp 1538702 for you.
09:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1538702 in Evergreen "webclient: Double-clicking copy from holdings view doesn't always select copy" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538702
09:02 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yup.
09:03 * kmlussier goes off to test the most recent fixes before proceeding with her day.
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Results for 2016-01-28

10:05 Dyrcona Bmagic: When I need to tune a Pg installation, I usually spend days pouring over wiki pages and conference slides, and then twiddle things until it is "fast enough."
10:05 csharp Bmagic: do you have more than one RAID controller?
10:05 csharp Dyrcona: that's my current method too ;-)
10:05 Bmagic Dyrcona: what method do you use to test speed?
10:06 tsbere JBoyer: For reference, I found that "search in their system" and "login to their system" didn't play nice together in the same link. So I skipped the "search" part.
10:06 csharp Bmagic: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/s​tatic/runtime-config-connection.html and following explain every setting in pretty good detail
10:06 Dyrcona Bmagic: None that's worth mentioning.
10:07 Bmagic csharp: ty
10:07 Dyrcona I might time some scripts, etc.
10:08 JBoyer I'd like to someday pull an entire day's worth of queries from the logs, keep the dump from that day; clean up any that don't play nice, then see how long it takes to replay that day on a fresh reload. It would be easy to see how big an impact settings changes make across that level of activity. It's more difficult to improve everything when you can only really test this or that slow query.
10:08 csharp Bmagic: check 'top' for high wait when things are slow - it might mean you need to reevaluate your disk setup - we're on SSDs now, but when we were on spinning disks, adding a second RAID controller solved all our problems
10:08 Bmagic csharp: changing hardware isn't in the cards right now. The fact is, 9.2 was faster
10:08 Bmagic on the same hardware
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12:51 Dyrcona @decide make new test accounts or crack passwords on existing test accounts?
12:51 pinesol_green Dyrcona: go with crack passwords on existing test accounts?
12:56 RoganH Clearly that would take less time.  Or at least be less tedious.  One of those.
12:58 Dyrcona Assuming that the majority of the test accounts have four digits for the password, yes.
12:58 Dyrcona And by test account, I mean "not real patrons used for testing purposes."
13:02 Dyrcona And now, I apparently don't have to....
13:03 Dyrcona We apparently already sent this information, and I was just given the spread sheet that was sent previously.
13:03 Dyrcona Oh well, it could have been a "fun" way to spend the afternoon.
13:09 * tsbere cracked the passwords on a few thousand accounts just to test some code he provided to Dyrcona for possibly cracking existing accounts >_>
13:09 jeff yeah. it takes about 27ms to generate hashes for four digit pins.
13:09 jeff and that's with storing them in a temp table for reuse.
13:10 jeff for one, it's actually faster to skip the temp table.

Results for 2016-01-27

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08:25 csharp Bmagic: regarding DB differences between 2.8.2/2.9.1 and autosuggest, what's more likely (from our experience with moving to 9.3 and 9.4) is that the query planner in postgres is working differently than before - if you have (or can assemble) a test server with the old version of EG/PG, you might be able to track the difference in the queries created - then it's a matter of DB and EG query tuning
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09:38 Dyrcona Wonder if it did that yesterday and I missed it.
09:38 Dyrcona kmlussier: Thanks!
09:40 Dyrcona I don't really have time to sort this right now. I'd have to do a clean install. It could be something going on with running the scripts twice.
09:47 JBoyer Dyrcona: Does it have that problem with just grunt build, or only grunt all? Skipping the tests may not be ideal, but if it gets things moving on your test server it could always be investigated later.
09:48 Dyrcona JBoyer: Good question, and if I knew enough about it, I would have tried that before blowing out the VM and building a fresh one. :)
09:48 Dyrcona JBoyer: Don't think I'm intelligent. I am only a bot following a script. :)
09:49 * Dyrcona is a total newb when it comes to Node.js and friends.
11:31 pinesol_green kmlussier: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
11:48 berick dbwells: fix pushed.  I'm working on a follow up patch to make some things more efficient. specifically, reduce the number of times we have to look up the root unit unit ID from the database and use cstore instead of storage for perm checks.
11:48 berick the API call will get (intentionally) slower w/ bcrypt, so may as well make some other parts faster/leaner
11:49 Dyrcona JBoyer: grunt build works. Guess it is a test that fails.
11:55 JBoyer That's good. (for certain values of good...) The specific test that I had fail on me was somehow related to our fmIDL.xml file and either permissions or paths, so I wasn't too worried about it at the time,
11:55 JBoyer .
11:56 Dyrcona kmlussier: FWIW, my dev vm is running with the branches we discussed.
11:56 kmlussier Dyrcona: Great, thank you!

Results for 2016-01-26

10:18 * csharp just turned 42 - so far everything is just as mysterious as before
10:20 * Dyrcona is *mumble* *mumble* years old....
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10:47 csharp hmm - looks like the new hold_request_capture_protect_idx index is preventing item checkin with no useful errors to the end user
10:48 csharp duplicate key value violates unique constraint "hold_request_capture_protect_idx" - DETAIL:  Key (current_copy)=(14779072) already exists.
10:48 csharp seems like something the application layer should be testing before it tries to update the hold row
10:49 csharp rather than failing gracelessly
10:51 csharp 32e415a2
10:51 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#902255: Protect against hold double-capture - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=32e415a>
10:51 csharp hmm
10:51 * csharp checks that util.js and circ.properties is up-to-date
11:27 kmlussier I may have misunderstood, but I didn't think the code in question only comes into play for asynchronous checkin. It was just higlighted as one occurance where double capture can happen.
11:28 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Forward port 2.9.0 to 2.9.1 db upgrade script. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ea474a9>
11:29 csharp kmlussier: yeah, I'm asking them to try with the checkbox unchecked, but it still looks like there's some bugaboo lurking there
11:29 kmlussier Yeah, looking at my notes on bug 902255, I was able to replicate the bug without asynchronous checkin being selected. In testing, the user-friendly error message did appear.
11:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 902255 in Evergreen "possible to double-scan an item during check-in and have it captured by two holds" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902255
11:31 csharp kmlussier: your comment #7 there is exactly what was reported to m
11:31 csharp e
15:45 Bmagic jeffdavis: I wonder why we didn't have this problem on 9.2 ?
15:47 jeffdavis We figured it had more to do with needing to vacuum after the PG+EG upgrade.
15:48 jeffdavis Hard to say, though. At least I don't think we had any definitive evidence of our conclusion.
15:51 csharp more info on that unapi.bre error - all I've seen and tested appear to be kid's titles, so the KPAC is suspect
15:51 csharp @blame kpac
15:51 pinesol_green csharp: kpac forgot to give the gerbils their chocolate-frosted sugar bombs
15:58 dbwells berick: Got the validate bits in place for AuthProxy.pm.  I pushed it (plus your latest fix) out to production here locally, and am going to let it chill for a bit before pushing back to the collab branch.  At this point in the day, probably going to be tomorrow.
15:59 Bmagic jeffdavis: now that I am looking at config.tt2 I dont see where to turn off autosuggest. I would have expected to see the setting there. where is use_autosuggest.enabled ? Should I just set that variable in config.tt2?

Results for 2016-01-22

09:11 Dyrcona mdriscoll: That's interesting. We were talking about something similar this morning...
09:11 jboyer-isl Ah, we're going to be leaning toward extracts/uploads with Z for availability.
09:12 Dyrcona mdriscoll: I'll share the branch in a few minutes.
09:12 mdriscoll Dyrcona: great I'll test it.
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09:16 Dyrcona And the search that was mentioned as a problem "harry potter rowling" works.
09:19 mdriscoll Here's another z39.50 search with punctuation: Monsters inc (CW-9, NOBLE-3, MVLC-594)
10:30 berick https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1384740
10:30 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1384740 in Evergreen "Add authority records support to marc stream importer (Connexion)" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
10:30 berick it's in master
10:31 jboyer-isl berick: Huzzah! Apparently not in the 2.9.cough version I upgraded us to, but we would be happy to apply some additional in-production testing. :D
10:32 berick awesome. we've been using the updated script for bib imports.  planning to use it for auth soon.
10:34 jboyer-isl One of your comments referenced bug 1171984 that was released sometime in 2.8, does that mean anything needs to be changed to address it, or did the options just not do anything until that bug was closed?
10:34 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1171984 in Evergreen "add support in Vandelay for overlaying authorities during import using match sets" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171984
11:07 yboston remingtron: thanks
11:08 yboston yboston: y por cierto muchas felicidades con lo de de tu familia
11:09 yboston remingtron: y por cierto muchas felicidades con lo de de tu familia
11:21 rjackson_isl berick++ - first import using patched importer and correct parameters worked - next test will be the authority side
11:22 rjackson_isl inclued both an overlay and new recs in one imput file...
11:22 rjackson_isl s/inclued/included
11:23 berick sweet
11:24 jboyer-isl Bummer. A parallel reingest is no sweat for the database, but slony does not like it one bit. :-/
11:25 Dyrcona Alas, poor Slony. I knew him well, Horatio.
16:48 kmlussier Dyrcona: I was thinking it might be first by database ID. Because Magazine is not first alphabetically on webby
16:48 kmlussier Dyrcona: Oh, so that's a problem.
16:48 kmlussier We need an Unset there.
16:48 jihpringle yboston: I ran into a few bugs while testing, do you know what the best way to report web client bugs is?
16:48 Dyrcona Well, you should be able to add a copy without a circ modifier, I think.
16:48 * kmlussier wanders off to Launchpad.
16:49 kmlussier And this is why it always takes me so long to work on documentation. :)
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17:37 kmlussier jihpringle: For bug 1537227, the problem is that you aren't using a registered workstation.
17:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1537227 in Evergreen "Web Client: Navigation Buttons in Catalogue Not Working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1537227
17:38 kmlussier We came across that one in testing.
17:38 jihpringle kmlussier: thanks, I thought it seemed familar
17:38 kmlussier Which is why it's really, really important that we have a way to require workstation registration before the web client is rolled in production. There are several things that don't work as expected without a workstation.
17:39 jihpringle yes, that;s definitely crucial

Results for 2016-01-21

13:31 mllewellyn IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1084'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END;
13:32 mllewellyn I can't figure where this LOC thing comes in.
13:32 berick mllewellyn: oh!  I should have finished reading..
13:33 mllewellyn I wish it were the SAN issue.  :(
13:35 mllewellyn From our test order. They added the LOC line to show me what they're expecting.
13:35 mllewellyn UNB+UNOB:3+336033V:31B+1556150:31B+160113:1310+1'  UNH+1+ORDERS:D:96A:UN'  BGM+220+21423+9'  DTM+137:20160113:102'  NAD+BY+336033V 1084::91'  NAD+SU+1556150::31B'  NAD+SU+2563::92'  CUX+2:USD:9'  LIN+420651++6315949045:IB'  PIA+5+6315949045:IB'  IMD+F+BTI+:::Cinderella'  IMD+F+BPU+:::Walt Disney Pictures,'  IMD+F+BPD+:::2015.'  IMD+F+BPH+:::1 videodisc (112 min.) '  QTY+21:5'  GIR+001+BRDGOM:LLO++1:LQT+acquisitions:LST+
13:37 berick mllewellyn: hm, we use the LCO (copy id) field, but I don't recall using LOC
13:38 * Dyrcona misspoke earlier. I don't have to strip quotes off the term. I misunderstood my error. :)
13:38 mllewellyn This is for Enriched AV processing.
15:22 kmlussier Yikes. Yeah, record buckets can only handle so many records.
15:23 phasefx might be better in the web client with paging
15:23 Stompro phasefx, thanks, I wasn't finding anything but wanted to double check.  I need to change the item_type on 20K large print titles and I'm just trying to find the best way.  I was going to try and use the marc batch edit function.
15:23 kmlussier phasefx: You said xul client. Is there hope there will be improvement in this respect in the web client? My webby testing has been limited to buckets with 50 records.
15:23 Dyrcona And, that is why I write so many custom scripts.
15:23 miker if you just use them for container searches, never accessed as a list, that could be useful
15:23 phasefx kmlussier: I think there's always hope.  Not sure what the current performance is with webby

Results for 2016-01-20

14:12 krvmga me, too
14:12 yboston we can swithc to that in a second. I had a goal to talk a bit about the web client hacking and we already spoke a little abotu it
14:13 sandbergja_ sounds good to me
14:13 yboston liek I said I will send out a link in the morning. I will also start a Google hangout in the morning
14:13 yboston the wiki page will have login info for a test serve that can be used to document the web client
14:14 yboston #link https://webby.evergreencatalog.com/eg/staff/
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14:14 yboston I think that is about it. We might want to check in the morning to verify what everyone will work on
14:15 yboston at this point we can switch to talking about the re-org
14:16 yboston #topic docs re-org
14:16 yboston go ahead
14:16 sandbergja_ I think that there was a lot of excitement when we talked about it on the mailing list
14:17 krvmga when i originally talked about this idea, i was thinking of "books" for different staff
14:17 yboston #link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=evergreen-docs:reorg_2014
14:34 sandbergja_ yes, yboston++
14:34 dluch yes! yboston++
14:35 sandbergja_ how hard would that be to achieve technically?
14:35 yboston #idea use the new re-org layout for storing the new web client docs
14:36 yboston my rough understanding is...
14:36 yboston that Robert Soulliere would need to do some config set ups on his docs server
14:36 yboston to handle a new set of templates for the new re-org
14:37 yboston though we might want to have a final decision on the re-org style before we start this, though we can just do soemtests
14:37 yboston *some tests
14:38 yboston in some ways it might not be that differnt from when Robert set ups the docs foreach new version of EG
14:39 yboston lets talk about sandbergja_ list of concers, which are very important
14:39 yboston 1) when to meet next 2) how to get more people involved
14:40 yboston I added 3) what risks shoudl we address, I would also add 4) do we have a final re-org that we can follow
14:40 sandbergja_ I feel like we got some consensus around (1)
14:40 yboston any other cocnenrs or ideas that we should keep in mind, that perhaps sandbergja_ and I can add to the re-org page in preparation for the eventual re-org meeting?
14:41 krvmga i have no others atm

Results for 2016-01-15

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08:33 jboyer-isl Anyone around who can remind me (if we have) our policy on the pullrequest tag on LP? Wait for outside testing confirmation first, or apply when there's a branch ready to test?
08:36 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: Put it on when you have a branch ready to test.
08:36 jboyer-isl That's what I figured, thanks Dyrcona.
08:37 Dyrcona Branches sometimes get pushed without the bug ever being confirmed.
08:38 * Dyrcona deals with the aftermath of having changed his email password.

Results for 2016-01-14

14:27 jeff it's also why patrons with max items out get charge_ok set to N and can't use a 3M selfcheck
14:27 Bmagic I see, so it's by design
14:28 Bmagic presumably, if the patron didnt have any penalties, they would be able to renew
14:28 jeff i'd test to confirm that's what you're running into.
14:28 Bmagic I will remove the penalty and try to renew, just a minute
14:28 jeff and i wouldn't say "by design"
14:29 jeff it's just that penalties have become more nuanced and granular, and there's room for improvement in the SIP code now.

Results for 2016-01-13

16:26 tsbere jeff: Basically, if the holdable *flags* say "no" it doesn't put them in. But it doesn't run the hold *rules* for every copy before putting them in the map.
16:27 tsbere So a holdable false copy, location, or status means "no map created". The copy always hitting "not holdable" in the hold matrix won't stop maps from being created.
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16:57 jeff and ahcm is used for at least: opportunistic hold capture, checkout fills related hold, and hold queue stats. also, copy-hold ratios in circ matrix tests.
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20:42 bshum @sortinghat
20:42 pinesol_green Hmm... bshum... Let me see now... GRYFFINDOR!
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21:12 miker jeff: tl;dr -> flags are likely to stay the same over hold-ish time periods, so no map. rule based disqualification is both more complicated and less static (or, that's the supposition) so we make the mapping in hopes that the copy will test "OK for hold" in hold-ish time periods.
21:13 miker hth
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Results for 2016-01-12

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10:48 Bmagic Dyrcona: it looks like it's money.payment from this line  my $last_payment = $e->search_money_payment(..... then return 1 if ($payment_ts + $interval_secs >= $now);
10:50 Dyrcona I thought so, but wasn't sure any more.
10:50 kmlussier That's my recollection from testing.
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11:10 Bmagic Does anyone have a library that controls access to the public workstations via login? That uses SIP backend?
11:40 kmlussier jboyer-isl: I got the reference. :)
11:41 Dyrcona We use 9.3 in production and 9.1 on development/training.
11:42 Dyrcona 'Cause we've been too lazy to upgrade the second db server.
11:52 csharp kmlussier: we're moving to 9.4 this weekend - been testing on it for months on two test servers with no issues
11:53 kmlussier csharp: Awesome! I'll be interested in hearing how things go in production.
12:51 jeff _bott_: is GRPL also running 9.4 in production?
12:52 dbwells_ kmlussier: We've been on 9.4 in production since 12/22.  So far, so good.
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13:48 csharp @dunno
13:48 pinesol_green csharp: I see nothing, I know nothing!
13:49 jeffdavis I'm working on a new feature in the staff client. We're not using the web client locally yet, but if I am adding it there for feature parity, I guess I'd better know how to test it. :)
13:49 csharp @quote random
13:49 pinesol_green csharp: Quote #67: "< Rogan_Ni> Star Wars" (added by berick at 01:38 PM, September 17, 2013)
13:49 Dyrcona csharp++
17:27 kmlussier For the logs, the depth appears to be 2.
17:29 berick kmlussier: i believe it defaults to the depth of the staff login workstation org unit.
17:29 berick which would be 2 in a stock EG setup
17:31 kmlussier berick: Ah, ok. That makes sense.
17:31 kmlussier berick: Can you guess what I'm testing right now? :)
17:32 berick heh, i have a theory patron reg is involved
17:34 kmlussier berick: I'm hoping to complete the testing on the latest code for the new editor tonight.
17:35 berick kmlussier++
17:35 kmlussier But, first, I suppose I should feed the children. Their faces are looking a little gaunt.
17:35 berick hah

Results for 2016-01-11

11:35 Dyrcona mceraso: YW!
11:36 jeff and /cl
11:36 jeff er
11:47 dbs csharp: test received (on gitadmin)
11:56 berick dbs: thought of one of your SEO talks today as google news showed a headline of 'Heartburn pills linked to increased risk of kidney disease' next to a picture of David Bowie.
12:04 dbs berick: ouch
12:09 csharp dbs: thanks!
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12:33 bshum csharp: That's happened before a couple times now
12:33 bshum csharp: I think it's a memory killer issue
12:33 jeff anyone generating logs should be forced to parse those logs before committing.
12:33 jeff unparsable log entries should be a test failure.
12:34 jeff (mostly unrelated to evergreen, just a general "if i ruled the world" whim of this morning)
12:35 jeff i'm parsing logs generated by software which i think i wrote in 2008.
12:43 tsbere jeff: At least once I wrote something that logged perfectly parseable logs, then the logging system changed and they became useless. So maybe not past-you's fault? ;)
12:45 csharp yay! now I'm seeing feedback@evergreen-ils.org spam!
12:45 csharp (meaning that all is back to normal :-))
14:55 csharp berick: thanks for that info - I'll stop chasing the red herring
14:56 csharp jeff: I think your question has got me on a better track - I'll report back after checking on environment stuff
14:56 berick the 1 exception is the initial "what am I processing" query taking longer than the $req_timeout, in which case the events would never even get created
14:57 csharp well, the good news is that I'm working this out now on a test server rather than doing it next week when everythings on fire ;-)
15:05 Dyrcona @praise csharp
15:05 * pinesol_green You don't want to get mixed up with someone like csharp. csharp is a loner, Dottie. A rebel.
15:06 bshum Memory killers

Results for 2016-01-08

10:35 Bmagic mmorgan: bug 1532236
10:35 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1532236 in Evergreen "Evergreen should allow for HTML formatted action trigger emails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532236
10:36 mmorgan Bmagic++
10:39 Dyrcona Hmmm... Maybe 1.4 million barcodes are a bit much for a test.
10:40 mmorgan Dyrcona: That would be a thorough test ;-)
10:42 Dyrcona Yeah. I'm not sure it would upload though, the file is 21.1 MB according to Nautilus File Manager.
10:43 Dyrcona I recall reading somewhere that the limit is 10 MB unless you change it, but that could have been inaccurate information.
10:45 csharp Bmagic: regarding bug 1532236, we've been wanting HTML email too - not sure if it needs a new A/T reactor or if we can encode some logic into the current SendEmail.pm that would do what we're after
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11:31 Stompro Bmagic++ tsbere++ I've been wondering how to create HTML notices for a while.  I think cover art included in notices would be appreciated by many customers.
11:31 Bmagic excellent - some testing would great
11:38 tsbere Stompro: I disagree on the cover art bit, but as I mentioned yesterday I tend to disable HTML/Rich Text email viewing in general.
11:43 Stompro tsbere, the multipart should take care of text email purist such as yourself.  The docs to can stress the importance of including the text only version.
11:56 tsbere Stompro: I just don't like the idea in general. Then again, I dislike the fact email supports HTML in the first place. Too many things can be "hidden", like link targets. >_>

Results for 2016-01-07

17:14 bshum Are you using "server edition" 64-bit Ubuntu 14.04
17:14 bshum Not Desktop edition
17:14 TheMadGunt No, not desktop
17:14 bshum The desktop edition sometimes does funky things and has broken installers.
17:14 bshum And nobody's tested on 32-bit anything in... well, forever, probably.
17:15 hopkinsju I'm going to turn up logging.
17:15 TheMadGunt cool.  let me give that a shot and I'll report back either way.  THANKS!
17:15 bshum Good luck!
17:16 bshum Apparently.
17:16 hopkinsju *eyeroll*
17:16 * bshum smirks at hopkinsju
17:16 TheMadGunt I'm in NY.  Best time to work on testing things.
17:16 TheMadGunt no one to interrupt me.  :)
17:16 bshum Good stuff... /waves hi from CT
17:16 hopkinsju 4pm is usually about the time when I can stop checking email and putting out fires and actually get to work.

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