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08:41 Dyrcona This keeps happening at "random:" Exception: OpenSRF::EX::Session 2015-09-02T00:00:16 main  /openils/bin/action_trigger_runner.pl:240 Session Error:  Transport::handler(): No AppSession object returned from server_build()
08:41 Dyrcona No idea why.
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09:18 Dyrcona @seen yboston
09:18 pinesol_green Dyrcona: yboston was last seen in #evergreen 17 hours, 23 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <yboston> Dyrcona: I just finsihed rebasing/squashing a new branch for lp 1484281
09:18 Dyrcona Thought so.
09:19 Dyrcona I'll just steal his bug, since I'm looking at the branch today.
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09:33 Dyrcona Good morning, yboston! I was just talking about you. :)
09:33 yboston Dyrcona: buenos días
09:33 Dyrcona I'm looking at lp 1484281 today.
09:33 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1484281 in Evergreen 2.8 "authority data may be deleted during propagation with current values of authority.control_set_authority_field" (affected: 1, heat: 10) [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1484281
09:39 yboston Dyrcona: cool, let me know if you need anything from me
09:39 Dyrcona I should be all set. I've identified some authorities with $e in the 100 or 110.
09:39 Dyrcona I just need to make sure they're linked to appropriate bibs and see what happens.
09:40 * Dyrcona waits on upgrade scripts as usual. :)
09:40 Dyrcona About your TODO comment in the upgrade script....
09:41 yboston go ahead
09:41 Dyrcona We should probably include a release note that mentions the need to check any locally added control sets.
09:41 yboston makes sense
09:41 Dyrcona I can write it if you don't have time. If you write, just push it as an extra commit on your new branch.
09:42 Dyrcona Well, the current branch, the one you rebased.
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09:53 yboston Dyrcona: I will write something out now and push it to the rebased branch
09:55 Dyrcona yboston++
09:55 Dyrcona Thanks!
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10:02 jeff Huh. /cl
10:02 jeff er, yeah.
10:02 jeff morning.
10:02 jeff @coffee
10:02 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Sidamo Guji, and sends it sliding down the bar to jeff
10:03 Dyrcona :)
10:12 yboston I need to update the realse notes with an upgrade note. I have created rekease notes before, but never a purely upgrade related note. Not sure where should the text go?
10:12 Dyrcona yboston: Put it in the usual place.
10:12 Dyrcona Release notes for bug fixes are something new that I'm trying to have done for 2.9.
10:12 yboston In this case it would be in the the cataloging subfolder
10:13 Dyrcona Yeah, that works for me.
10:13 yboston should I give the file name some keyword or flag it in a way to warn you?
10:13 Dyrcona Just name the file what you think is best. There's a script that picks these up and makes the actual release notes.
10:14 yboston Dyrcona: thanks
10:21 bshum Speaking of release notes, we should start preparing acknowledgements, etc. for 2.9
10:22 yboston Dyrcona: my bad, I just realzied my working branch for lp 1484281 has a branch name that mentions the wrong bug, (but it is a related bug)
10:22 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1484281 in Evergreen 2.8 "authority data may be deleted during propagation with current values of authority.control_set_authority_field" (affected: 1, heat: 10) [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1484281
10:23 Dyrcona yboston: That's not very important.
10:23 Dyrcona The branch name disappears once the code is cherry-picked.
10:25 yboston good to know
10:26 Dyrcona I'll amend the commit messages to make sure they're prefixed with the proper lp bug if they need it.
10:30 Dyrcona And, I'm ready to commence testing.
10:44 Dyrcona So to test this I run authority_control_fields.pl and watch the $e disappear from my target bibs?
10:44 Dyrcona Meaning that is the behavior before the fix.
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10:54 Dyrcona I am not seeing the behavior described in the bug. I am not losing relator terms for records linked to an authority with a 100$e.
10:55 Dyrcona Is that what I am supposed to see or do I misunderstand the bug description?
10:57 Dyrcona And, is it a bug for a record to link to two authorities on the same field? Does that indicate we have duplicate authorities that we need to clean up?
11:06 yboston Dyrcona: let me see
11:06 Dyrcona OK. Once I was able to figure out the authorities editor, I was able to reproduce the bug.
11:06 yboston good
11:10 Dyrcona Does the bug take effect if the control set on the authority is None?
11:10 yboston Dyrcona: that is an excelent question
11:11 yboston Dyrcona: I wonder if dbwells or miker or dbs are around to opine
11:12 miker the control set is guessed based on the thesaurus of the record when the authority doesn't supply one, if that's what you mean
11:14 Dyrcona Well, it turns out that in the case of many of our authorities with $e in the 100, they don't belong to any control set.
11:14 Dyrcona I should undo the upgrade script and see what happens, just for completeness.
11:15 Dyrcona We only have 16 and only 8 bibs are linked to those, and in the cases of the ones where the control set is null, there has so far been another authority with control set 1 that actually looks better.
11:16 Dyrcona And that latter authority is naturally not yet linked to any records.
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11:20 Dyrcona Ooh. Unrelated, but came up while looking at this: deleting an authority doesn't seem to remove links and running authority_control_fields.pl on the record doesn't fix it, either.
11:20 Dyrcona I tried deleting one of the undefined authorities to see what happens.
11:21 Dyrcona The fix does work on the illustrator that has an LC authority, etc.
11:21 yboston Dyrcona: I just pushed the relase notes
11:22 yboston Dyrcona: would you like me to rebase again?
11:22 Dyrcona yboston: No need to rebase.
11:22 yboston Dyrcona: for the record, I need the rpactice and would like to save you time
11:23 yboston your call
11:23 Dyrcona yboston: For the record, we don't mind release notes being their own commit.
11:23 yboston good to know
11:23 Dyrcona Sometimes more commits are better as it makes reverting problems more granular.
11:23 yboston good to know
11:25 Dyrcona I'll do a little more pounding on this, but so far it looks promising.
11:26 yboston Dyrcona: thanks for all your help. This fix has given me a lot of useful experience
11:26 Dyrcona yboston++ # you're more than welcome
11:27 yboston Dyrcona: this is helping a lot to understand release management!
11:36 Dyrcona I'm convinced it works. berick bshum do you want me to backport it to 2.7 and 2.8, since it looks like the bug affects those releases as well?
11:40 berick Dyrcona: yes, please backport
11:42 Dyrcona Ok.
11:42 Dyrcona It isn't really authority data that is being deleted is it? It's actually bib data.
11:42 yboston yes, it is bib data
11:45 Dyrcona I edited the release note very lightly.
11:47 Dyrcona Corrected a typo, removed "authority" from the title, reformatted the flow to fit a 72 column screen, and removed the word only where it was doubled up.
11:47 Dyrcona Might rename the file, too.
11:54 Dyrcona grabbing 0941
11:56 Dyrcona yboston: One other recommendation, in upgrade script use SELECT evergreen.upgrade_deps_block_check('XXXX', :eg_version); instead of inserting into config.upgrade_log.
11:57 Dyrcona It's not  a big deal, since the committer will have to edit that line anyway.
12:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Yamil Suarez] LP# 1484281 auth control config update to prevent propagated data deletion - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b2ba702>
12:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Yamil Suarez] LP# 1484281 auth control config update release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7c70e4c>
12:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP#1484281: Stamping Upgrade Script. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d0afea4>
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12:04 Dyrcona And, lunch
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12:41 Dyrcona Guess I'll roll up the 2.9-rc so I'll have a little time to test it.
12:44 Dyrcona Give me some time to figure what happened with bower.
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13:07 pgardella1 Good morning all!  I'm following up from yesterday where I can't get password reset emails sent.  I see that no events have been generated in action_trigger.event since 8/15. We don't see any changes made that day that would have caused that.  So what might be the reason why the event isn't generated?
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13:20 Dyrcona I am getting this again: Fatal error: Unable to find local grunt.
13:20 Dyrcona I installed both ubuntu-trusty-developer and ubuntu-trusty-packager.
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13:24 Dyrcona For some reason ~/tmp is owned by root!
13:28 Dyrcona pgardella1: A/T isn't my strong point, but you need to make sure that the events are enabled and the cron jobs are running.
13:29 tsbere pgardella: Has anyone tried to submit a request? If so, are they running into the max active requests limit? Do they have email addresses on file?
13:31 mmorgan For reference, here's what transpired yesterday regarding pgardella's question: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2015-09-01#i_200538
13:31 pgardella tsbere: I'm testing my own account.  I have an email on file.  So has several other library staff.  None of us should have hit the max active requests.
13:32 pgardella mmorgan++
13:32 tsbere pgardella: Are there any recent rows in actor.usr_password_reset?
13:33 pgardella tsbere: nothing since 8/15
13:33 tsbere pgardella: That would imply no successful attempts to initiate one
13:34 pgardella So the password reset form would add it to that table?
13:34 mmorgan I don't have the details handy, but occasionally we have had a stale lock file on the server that runs the triggers that was preventing them from running.
13:34 tsbere pgardella: Generally, yes. The form won't actually tell you about errors, though.
13:35 pgardella tsbere: where will it show errors?  (It's good security practice not to tell errors on the form, so that's good!)
13:35 tsbere pgardella: Probably available in logs if you look deeply enough....I am not 100% positive though.
13:36 pgardella tsbere: OK, didn't see anything in the logs. I'll dig a bit.
13:37 tsbere pgardella: I would check your circ.password_reset_request_throttle (default: 1000) and circ.password_reset_request_time_to_live (default: 24*60*60, or one day) settings, plus the circ.password_reset_request_per_user_limit setting for that matter.
13:39 rjackson_isl pgardella not sure if still true but it used to require exact match on case of email address to cause a match in the database and perform the request
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13:41 pgardella rjackson_isl: I was using the barcode rather than username.
13:43 rjackson_isl pgardella: maybe I am way off base but I thought you had to enter email address to receive the temp pwd? That is what needs to match case-wise (email)
13:44 pgardella rjackson_isl: It's not on the password reset page.
13:46 jeff rjackson_isl: you can enable that option, yes.
13:46 jeff rjackson_isl: but it is off by default.
13:47 rjackson_isl jeff: thanks - I had a disclaimer of course ;) I know we have had issues with no receipt to patron traced back to email case sensitive
13:49 pgardella tsbere: None of those were set.  So I set them, but still no joy on adding a record in actor.usr_password_reset
13:52 Stompro evergreen++ iii-- : time to setup credit card payment (III 4 Months waiting for III support to respond to emails) (Evergreen 2 hours)
13:58 csharp Stompro++
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14:09 pgardella rjaskson_isl++
14:09 pgardella rjackson_isl++
14:10 pgardella rjackson_isl: Your hint helped!  The setting was marked as TRUE in the org unit settings, but the page was not displaying that field.  I marked it as FALSE, and now I get an entry in both actor.usr_password_reset and action_trigger.event
14:12 rjackson_isl pgardella: so the form was missing the field for email address but processing expected? Huh! Well, glad I could help in a round about way!
14:12 kmlussier rjackson_isl++
14:12 pgardella rjackson_isl: Correct.  It didn't display.
14:13 geoffsams I've got an odd issue today, trying to pull up a record in the staff client results in Internal Server Error but I can pull up the record just fine on the outside TPAC.
14:13 kmlussier I wonder if that's a bug or if it's an issue with a custom file not having all the right info.
14:14 pgardella tsbere: The action_trigger.event is marked as complete, but the email didn't send. I've run the cron entries manually, too.
14:15 tsbere pgardella: Is there output? If so, check to see if it looks like it created a complete email.
14:15 Dyrcona geoffsams: We had something like that, does the error window say something about [open-ils.cat.biblio.record.marc_cn.retrieve] failed for session [1441031854.674647.144103185423386], thread trace [1]:\nCan't call method \"field\" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2​/OpenILS/Application/Cat.pm line 490.\n\n","status":500}
14:15 Dyrcona Granted the session and other numbers will be different.
14:16 geoffsams Dyrcona: no pop up error occurs, though I should check the evergreen log instead of the apache log maybe
14:16 Dyrcona That shows up in the error dialog.
14:16 Dyrcona You can also search the logs, it should be there, too.
14:17 tsbere geoffsams: Perhaps something in an is_staff protected block in the templates is broken
14:17 geoffsams vanilla templates, the apache error is suggesting summary.tt2 from the untouched templates
14:18 Dyrcona Paste the error somewhere, please.
14:21 gsams http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/27
14:21 gsams didn't paste it to the channel
14:21 gsams that was from the apached error log
14:23 pgardella tsbere: where?  nothing in the logs
14:23 pgardella is there a way to trace a transaction through the logs?
14:24 tsbere pgardella: action_trigger.event should have a template_output column that is a FK to action_trigger.event_output, I believe
14:29 gsams Okay, weird.  Using item status screen and show in catalog it brings the record up.
14:30 gsams clicking on the title after searching for it brings up the internal error
14:30 gsams without giving any actual error information
14:30 gsams other than there is an invalid date on a line that doesn't ask for a date
14:32 bshum So, line 157 in summary.tt2
14:32 bshum That seems to be the include for copy_table.tt2?  At least that's what it says in rel_2_7
14:33 gsams that is correct
14:36 tsbere copy_table.tt2 may be trying to show a date that isn't set, or the format it is trying to set isn't valid?
14:37 gsams tsbere: I was just going down that line of reasoning.  I think there may be an issue with the creation date on that item or record
14:40 gsams item's create date timestamp is NULL apparently, think that'd cause the problem?
14:40 bshum gsams: Yeah, that's unusual.
14:40 pgardella tsbere: the message in action_trigger.event_output points to a missing actor.org_unit_ancestor_setting
14:40 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1418772
14:40 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1418772 in Evergreen 2.7 "Internal server error on viewing full record when copy create_date is null" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Fix released]
14:41 pgardella tsbere: http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/28
14:41 bshum gsams: see the bug I just linked to.
14:41 bshum gsams: Perhaps you just need the fix attached to it :)
14:41 bshum It was part of 2.7.4
14:42 pgardella tsbere: how do I know what actor.org_unit_ancestor_setting it was trying to find?
14:42 bshum Or
14:42 tsbere pgardella: Check the event_definition template, probably trying to look up the email address?
14:42 bshum You can add a create_date for the copy :P
14:42 bshum And that will "fix it" too
14:43 bshum And then try something like:  SELECT COUNT(*) FROM asset.copy WHERE create_date IS NULL AND deleted = FALSE;
14:43 bshum To see how many things are like that.
14:43 gsams bshum: heh, yeah I was just about to update the create_date for the item
14:45 * bshum got 0 hits for the query and is happy his database isn't weird.
14:46 gsams 79
14:47 gsams now I am curious what they have in common aside from the date issue
14:47 tsbere Migration issue?
14:48 gsams tsbere: could have been, will probably find out!  Goodness knows there is plenty of room for that.
14:49 gsams bshum++
14:49 gsams tsbere++ Dyrcona++
14:50 Dyrcona I only offered a red herring. :)
14:51 gsams In my position, red herrings are better than no herrings at all.
14:51 gsams sometimes a red herring stirs thoughts of the correct path.
14:52 gsams also, karma is fun to give out
14:53 berick mmm, stirred herring
14:53 Dyrcona stewed herring.
14:54 Dyrcona "how to defend yourself again a man who attacks you with a herring!"
14:54 Dyrcona s/again/against/
14:55 Dyrcona And there is a developers' meeting in about 5 minutes.
14:55 berick stir it up, little herring ♬
14:59 gmcharlt Dyrcona: one defends by swing a cod(4lib)
14:59 gmcharlt *swinging
15:00 Dyrcona heh.
15:00 Dyrcona Meeting time.
15:00 Dyrcona #startmeeting 2015-09-02 - Developer Meeting
15:00 pinesol_green Meeting started Wed Sep  2 15:00:43 2015 US/Eastern.  The chair is Dyrcona. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:00 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
15:00 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to '2015_09_02___developer_meeting'
15:01 Dyrcona #info agenda at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/d​oku.php?id=dev:meetings:2015-09-02
15:01 Dyrcona #topic Introductions
15:01 Dyrcona #info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, MVLC
15:01 gmcharlt #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, ESI
15:02 Stompro #info Stompro = Josh Stompro, LARL MN
15:02 berick #info berick = Bill Erickson, KCLS
15:02 dbwells #info dbwells = Dan Wells, Hekman Library (Calvin College)
15:03 jboyer-isl #info isl-jasonb = Jason Boyer, IN State Lib (Eg IN)
15:03 jboyer-isl (oops.)
15:03 Dyrcona heh
15:04 dbs #info dbs = Dan Scott, Laurentian University
15:04 jeff @info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL)
15:04 pinesol_green jeff: (info <url|feed>) -- Returns information from the given RSS feed, namely the title, URL, description, and last update date, if available.
15:04 jeff bah.
15:04 remingtron #info remingtron = Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College)
15:04 jeff #info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL)
15:05 Dyrcona Stragglers can announce themselves as they show up.
15:05 Dyrcona #top Action Items from Last Meeting
15:05 Dyrcona oops.
15:05 Dyrcona #topic Action Items from Last Meeting
15:06 Dyrcona #info gmcharlt to organize webstaff client hacking day in September
15:06 yboston #info yboston is Yamil Suarez - Berklee.edu
15:06 Dyrcona #info We've now picked a date: Wednesday, 16 September 2015. Will discuss at dev meeting.
15:06 Dyrcona gmcharlt, you have the floor. :)
15:07 gmcharlt so, main thing to discuss before we officially announce it is mostly scheduling: does that day happen to be no good very bad not free at all for everybody who isn't me and miker?
15:07 gmcharlt if not, we'll run with it
15:07 berick works for me
15:07 jeff looks good here.
15:08 * dbs isn't free at all but realistically that doesn't matter
15:08 jeff looks like 2.9.0 and monthly maintenance releases are scheduled for that day.
15:08 Dyrcona It is release day for 2.9.0, 2.8.4, and 2.7.[i forget]
15:08 berick i would not object to pushing releases ahead or back a day
15:08 miker #info miker = Mike Rylander, ESI
15:09 Dyrcona I cannot release on the 15th.
15:09 gmcharlt how about the 17th for AngularJS day?
15:10 berick also works for me
15:10 Dyrcona Day after a release might be better than a day before.
15:10 jeff 17th also good for me. EOB meeting for one hour that day, if that affects anyone else with interest.
15:11 Dyrcona 17th works for me.
15:12 * gmcharlt imagines that the EOB meeting si less of a blocker for anybody who falls in the intersection
15:12 Stompro 17th works better for me also.
15:13 gmcharlt ok, I think that settles it
15:13 gmcharlt thanks for the feedback!
15:13 gmcharlt #info AngularJS Day will be scheduled for 17 September 2015
15:13 Dyrcona beat me to it.
15:14 Dyrcona #info ldw will follow up with jeff about removing old self check interface status -- Done!
15:14 Dyrcona I put that as done, since the code branch went in.
15:14 Dyrcona Any discussion before moving on?
15:14 jeff nope!
15:14 Dyrcona ok, then.
15:15 Dyrcona #info ldw will follow up with jeff about removing old JSPAC code status - Done!
15:15 Dyrcona Same with this one.
15:15 jboyer-isl yay!
15:15 Dyrcona #info ldw will follow up with jeff on merge vs cherry-pick discussion
15:15 Dyrcona I don't think this one happened, jeff?
15:17 Bmagic #info Bmagic = Blake GH, MOBIUS
15:17 ldw #info ldw = Liam Whalen, Sitka
15:17 Dyrcona Does anyone want to have any discussion on the matter before I defer it to next meeting?
15:17 jeff nope, though ldw did say he wanted to ask me about something.
15:18 ldw jeff: I wanted to make sure all was well.  Just a follow up to the TODO.
15:18 jeff my report would be that i've given it some but not a lot of thought, enough to be reconsidering and i have no specific proposal to make at this time. i'd be interested in further (not in this meeting) discussion with anyone else who was interested by the original idea.
15:18 Dyrcona Is it something we would want to discuss at a future meeting, or should we drop it?
15:18 jeff no specific followup other than that. drop it from the next agenda unless further discussion brings it back to the agenda.
15:19 Dyrcona #agree drop it for now. :)
15:19 Dyrcona #info ldw will looking into integrating neg. balance tests on test writing day
15:20 Dyrcona ldw: I think that happened more or less.
15:20 ldw I did not get the neg balance tests personally.  I do not know if someone else worked on it that day.
15:21 kmlussier #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC
15:21 Dyrcona There are some negative balance tests and more can always be added.
15:21 Dyrcona dbwells or remingtron anything to add?
15:22 dbwells I think the goal was to reconsider the way they were setup, but that doesn't need to happen with any particular urgency.
15:23 Dyrcona So, we'll call that one done, too.
15:23 Dyrcona #info done
15:23 Dyrcona #info berick will work with bshum on crafting more information about release maintaining and schedules
15:23 berick no progress to report.
15:24 Dyrcona Do we want to carry this one forward to the next meeting?
15:24 berick unless bshum still plans on tackling it, let's take it off the agenda for now
15:24 Dyrcona Ok.
15:25 Dyrcona I don't think bshum is here. He said something about another commitment.
15:26 Dyrcona #info gmcharlt will cut an OpenSRF release in the next 6 weeks-- Will cut on Tuesday, 2015-09-08
15:26 Dyrcona That looks good to me. Anything to add?
15:27 gmcharlt not from me
15:27 Dyrcona Ok. moving on.
15:27 Dyrcona #info kmlussier to update setting descriptions and then update the release notes to reflect consensus -- Done!
15:28 Dyrcona Don't think there is much to add there, so moving on....
15:28 Dyrcona #info Dyrcona to investigate sprint2's integration with an alpha release -- Done: Sprint 2 was integrated for the beta release.
15:28 jeff sprint2++ Dyrcona++
15:28 Dyrcona Only thing I can add here is that the tarball install of the web staff client is broken in the beta.
15:28 Dyrcona You have to do the developer steps to make it work.
15:29 Dyrcona Which maybe leads to an action item for someone (me) to update the README with web staff client instructions.
15:30 Dyrcona #action Dyrcona to update README/INSTALL for master to include web staff client installation instructions for developers by 2.9.0 release date.
15:30 Dyrcona unless anyone objects.
15:31 Dyrcona The next item looks like the previous but touches on the alpha release schedule.
15:32 Dyrcona #info Dyrcona to determine if sprint2 can be merged into an alpha release, and  will set a date for a release or skip the release depending on his  findings.
15:32 Dyrcona #info Done: alpha release was skipped and beta was released on time.
15:32 Dyrcona Any questions or discussion of that decision?
15:33 Dyrcona Ok. It's pretty easy when most of the things get done. :)
15:34 Dyrcona #info dbwells will attempt to explode berick's Password Managment and Authentication improvements
15:35 dbwells I've started going over it, but nothing substantial to report at this time.  I'll continue working on it.
15:35 berick dbwells++
15:35 Dyrcona OK. Does this need to continue as an action item?
15:35 Dyrcona Indeed. dbwells++ berick++
15:36 dbwells Dyrcona: I'd be fine with that.
15:36 Dyrcona All right.
15:36 Dyrcona #action dbwells will attempt to explode berick's Password Managment and Authentication improvements
15:36 Dyrcona Gee I could have fixed the spelling.... anyway.
15:36 Dyrcona So that is it for action items.
15:37 Dyrcona Moving on to release information.
15:37 Dyrcona #topic OpenSRF Release
15:37 gmcharlt pretty much already dicussed, I think
15:37 Dyrcona gmcharlt mentioned doing a release on 8 Sept. what version will that be?
15:38 Dyrcona gmcharlt: do you want an action item? :)
15:38 gmcharlt yeah, I'll take it.. and version will be 2.4.2
15:38 Dyrcona ok.
15:38 Dyrcona #action gmcharlt to release OpenSRF version 2.4.2 on 8 September 2015.
15:39 Dyrcona #topic Evergreen Release(s)
15:39 Dyrcona So, I'll take an action item right off the bat.
15:39 Dyrcona #action Dyrcona to release 2.9-rc after the meeting.
15:40 Dyrcona I just made the tarball this afternoon, loaded it on a test vm with concerto data, and all looks good.
15:40 Dyrcona I even got it to work with the web staff client. I think that ended up being bad ownership on a directory.
15:41 Dyrcona So, do we want action items for the maintenance releases in two weeks or is that overkill?
15:42 Dyrcona I guess that would include 2.9.0 as well.
15:44 berick since they're monthly, i don't see any need for an agenda item
15:44 berick though i don't think anyone would complain :)
15:45 Dyrcona I'm inclined to agree that they aren't needed, plus they're on the calendar.
15:46 Dyrcona Hmm. I kind botched the topic for the next item in the agenda, and I got my answers already.
15:47 Dyrcona Unless anyone has anything else to discuss/ask about Evergreen releases, we'll move on...
15:48 Dyrcona #topic Translations: Should we include metadata changes or not?
15:48 Dyrcona This is new business.
15:48 Dyrcona I added this to the agenda before I really understood the process.
15:49 Dyrcona I am pretty sure that I've had my questions answered on this topic.
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15:49 Dyrcona Does anyone have any questions about translations?
15:51 kmlussier Other than how do they work? No. ;)
15:51 Dyrcona :)
15:51 Dyrcona Well, I might have messed some up at the beta because I tried adding everything at once instead of in two steps.
15:52 Dyrcona Since dbwells updated that part of the 2.8 release instructions, things became clearer to me.
15:53 Dyrcona Since I'm just babbling...
15:53 Dyrcona #topic New Business
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15:54 Dyrcona And, my server picks now to go nuts.....
15:55 Dyrcona Anyone feel railroaded by how I'm conducting the meeting?
15:55 Bmagic servergonuts++
15:56 jboyer-isl No. (That I don’t have much input on any of the current topics is unrelated to running a tight meeting)
15:57 Dyrcona Does anyone have anything to discuss?
16:00 kmlussier Just wanted to mention that I am behind schedule in scheduling a Bug Squashing Day. I usually try to schedule one between beta and full release, but I don't think that's happening
16:01 Dyrcona Ok. I'll adjourn the meeting hearing nothing else.
16:02 Dyrcona #endmeeting
16:02 pinesol_green Meeting ended Wed Sep  2 16:02:03 2015 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:02 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2015/evergreen.2015-09-02-15.00.html
16:02 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2015/evergreen.2015-09-02-15.00.txt
16:02 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2015/evergreen.2015-09-02-15.00.log.html
16:02 jeff Dyrcona++
16:02 jboyer-isl Dyrcona++
16:02 kmlussier Dyrcona++
16:03 jeffdavis Dyrcona++
16:04 ldw Dyrcona++
16:05 dbwells Dyrcona++
16:16 csharp jboyer-isl++ # bug 1491571
16:16 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1491571 in Evergreen "When circ.password_reset_reques​t_requires_matching_email setting is true, email case must match in addition to content" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491571
16:17 * csharp DECIDES TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY IN jboyer-isl'S HONOR
16:17 csharp huh - a dev meeting, huh?  that's what I get for having my head down on PINES issues for hours
16:18 jeff @who THINKS THAT CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
16:18 pinesol_green TaraC THINKS THAT CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
16:18 jboyer-isl BIG LETTERS MEAN BIG IDEAS, AM I RIGHT THOUGHT LEADERS?
16:18 csharp LOL
16:18 csharp @dunno add BIG LETTERS MEAN BIG IDEAS, AM I RIGHT THOUGHT LEADERS?
16:18 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Dunno #44 added.
16:19 * berick wipes the spittle from his glasses
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16:31 gsams @weather 76262
16:31 pinesol_green gsams: The current temperature in Roanoke, Texas is 93.7°F (3:27 PM CDT on September 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
16:32 Bmagic Dyrcona++
16:32 Bmagic so, metarecords
16:33 pgardella tsbere: If you still have patience with me ( :) ), I've narrowed down the error to cstore.json_query that for org.bounced_emails in actor.org_unit_ancestor_setting which for some reason has a null in it.  Running select * from actor.org_unit_ancestor_sett​ing('org.bounced_emails',4);  returns all the same data that the json_query shows in the logs, except for that null.
16:33 Bmagic is it by design that some metarecords exist without an entry in metabib.metarecord_source_map  ?
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16:42 miker Bmagic: it's not by design per se, but it's also not really a problem. you can delete orphaned metarecords if you like -- they'll come back if they're needed in the future
16:42 Bmagic miker: right on, what about metarecord holds?
16:43 Bmagic Im finding bibs that are a member of more than one metarecord. If bre.fingerprint != mm.fingerprint - they probably need to be removed from the group?
16:43 miker they are supposed get moved to the new MR when the last record leaves the MR ... if you have holds on those orphaned MRs, you'll want to investigate them individually
16:44 miker and, yes to that
16:44 Bmagic when records are merged, does the code call asset.merge_record_assets ?
16:45 miker yes (or, it did last I touched it ... ;) )
16:45 Bmagic I think there is a bug in that function regarding metarecords
16:46 miker bugs happen, sure
16:47 Bmagic it only updates the master_record when the source bib record id happens to be the master bib, I think it needs to look at the metarecord that the source bib is exiting and make sure it needs to stick around at all
16:49 Bmagic Perhaps the assumption is that the two records that are being merged are in the same metarecord group
16:55 miker that may be
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17:02 pgardella as I leave for the day
17:02 pgardella tsbere++
17:05 bshum Dyrcona: Downloads page updated for RC files.
17:05 bshum Dyrcona++
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17:05 Dyrcona bshum++
17:05 Dyrcona Thanks for taking care of that part.
17:05 Dyrcona Well, time to go. I'll probably be back on later.
17:06 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:09 bshum Dun, dun, dunnnnn
17:09 bshum Authority test fail
17:10 * bshum disappears into the mists
17:33 jwoodard learned glaring at Evergreen does not fix anything
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19:01 gsams-web jwoodard: I don't know, it's worked for me once or twice...
19:01 bshum It might not fix Evergreen, but I cannot rule out other things it may fix...
19:02 bshum So to say it "does not fix anything" might be too absolute for my taste.
19:06 gsams-web If nothing else, it fixes your gaze.
19:06 gsams-web badum tish
19:32 jwoodard haha
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