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Results for 2016-09-29

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08:31 csharp hmm, I'm trying to generate the log warnings for bug 1624491, but I'm not able to and I'm not seeing the prox_cache uninitialization warnings on PINES production or test servers :-/
08:32 pinesol_green csharp: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1624491 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624491). The error has been logged
08:32 csharp pinesol_green: why not?
08:32 pinesol_green Factoid 'why not?' not found
09:57 jeff we're running with... 0? that's surprising to me.
09:58 dbs The only two modules that I can think of that we run that most sites probably don't run are open-ils.resolver and open-ils.auth_proxy
10:00 dbs Not sure if there's an easy way to figure out where a memory leak is occurring in apache with a bunch of c and perl mods
10:00 jeff in test systems earlier this year, i could trigger high memory utilization in apache children. setting MaxConnectionsPerChild seemed to be a solid workaround, and i did have to set it pretty low.
10:01 dbs jeff: interesting - but you don't need that workaround any more?
10:01 jeff i'd have to look at notes, but first thing i'd try would be comparing things handled by EGCatLoader with something like static files.
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10:36 jeff if nothing else, in the interest of improving logging / error handling / avoiding this myself. ;-)
10:36 Dyrcona If I use a barcode from a copy other than the ones I added, I get a response in less than 1 second. I think I'm missing something in the database.
10:37 jeff yeah.
10:37 Dyrcona jeff: I can paste it. I was thinking of adding these to concerto for testing purposes in the future.
10:37 Dyrcona I'll bet there is some setting not switched on in concerto that I'm used to having on and that's my issue.
10:38 dbs Dyrcona: any chance the bib / volume / copy ingest triggers are failing or aren't running?
10:38 jeff ideally data that postgres allows you to insert wouldn't cause SIP to fail like that, but maybe the marcxml or something is to blame.
10:42 Dyrcona Yes.
10:42 Dyrcona Since I discovered that SIPServer won't start on Ubuntu 16.04, I'm going to move on to a branch for that and then come back to this after that.
10:42 jeff isn't this expected to fail on recent Encode.pm?
10:43 Dyrcona jeff: Yes. That was what I was testing, but this is not a recent Encode AFAIK.
10:43 jeff ah.
10:43 Dyrcona It failed on 16.04, and I'm testing 14.04 for duplication, etc.
10:44 jeff my guess right now is that you're running into the bug where sipserver doesn't properly flush the buffer on the socket.

Results for 2016-09-28

07:38 pinesol_green csharp: [evergreen|Dan Scott] Support Apache 2.4 configuration directives - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d4f6bf8>
07:39 csharp 375054cf
07:39 pinesol_green csharp: [evergreen|Bill Erickson] Collections user balance API / batch file output - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=375054c>
08:05 csharp okay, so I just now learned about the collections batch file feature that's been around for years, and I'm looking to enable it.  If I browse to /collections/, I'm prompted to log in and I get a 404, but if I create a test file and browse to it it works.  Is that the expected behavior, that the file works but the directory doesn't?
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08:18 * kmlussier yawns
08:18 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
10:09 Dyrcona rhamby is safe, then. :)
10:09 * Dyrcona is readying his xenial VM for bug squashing day tomorrow.
10:10 rhamby :)
10:10 * Dyrcona believe he will test his new and improved SIP branch.
10:11 Dyrcona jeff: Do you mind if I start working on a branch to remove clean_text from the Evergreen sip code?
10:12 jeff if you have lots of free time go for it. i'll take it off my list for today.
10:12 jeff and i'll be happy to test.
10:13 jeff or counter, if i'm feeling particularly opinionated.
10:13 Dyrcona I'll see if I can get to it today.. :)
10:14 Dyrcona First, I want to make sure that the SIPServer changes don't hose a more-or-less stock master installation.
10:14 Dyrcona But, so I can test removing clean_text, I'll at least start a branch today.
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12:41 * Dyrcona checks
12:43 Dyrcona Nope.
12:44 Dyrcona Once I set that up, maybe I'll make a Lp bug to have it added to the seed data for concerto.
12:46 dbs Dyrcona: it doesn't look like there are any users with non-ASCII characters in their names or other data, either.
12:46 dbs which would be really helpful for testing
12:47 Dyrcona dbs: Yeah, I was going to look into that, too. I can get some records to load if need be.
12:47 Dyrcona I think I still have a small file of vietnamese records hanging around somewhere.
12:48 dbs yep, /[^\d0-\d127] says no match
14:41 * JBoyer is also distracted by other projects, so isn't really checking the EI db..
15:03 mmorgan DPearl: kmlussier: Looks like this can happen when transferring volumes as described in lp 1411422
15:03 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1411422 in Evergreen 2.10 "Copy details repeated in search results when item/volume moved with parts attached" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1411422
15:04 kmlussier mmorgan: I tried transferring volumes on a test system, but I didn't see the problem occur.
15:05 * mmorgan didn't try and reproduce, but remembered it being a problem in the past.
15:12 kmlussier Speaking of that bug, Bmagic_ did you see my comments on bug 1411422 regarding old parts being left behind and the possibility of a regression test?
15:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1411422 in Evergreen 2.10 "Copy details repeated in search results when item/volume moved with parts attached" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1411422
15:12 * kmlussier would love to see that bug fix merged.
15:38 Dyrcona So, I just inserted some copies with SQL and a SIP2 request for item info times out.
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15:44 Dyrcona So, if we had upgraded to Jessie, instead of crashing the vendor's software, these records would crash ours. :(
15:45 dbs We're on Ubuntu 14.04, fwiw
15:46 Dyrcona We're on Squeeze in production and I'm testing on Ubuntu 16.04.
15:46 Dyrcona Ubuntu 14.04 does not exhibit this problem.
15:47 Dyrcona Well, Perl < 5.20 doesn't exhibit this problem.
15:49 jeff by nature of including the affected version of Encode.pm
16:02 StomproJosh jeff, I'm going to start a bug on stacking/multiple AT validators.  I've wondered a few times about not being able to have several validators.  It would be nice to always include a UsrHasEmail validator for an email notice, along with any others.
16:02 dbs my hypothesis for the reason that i needed to remove clean_text() for item info was that supercat started encoding the incoming data properly
16:03 Dyrcona dbs: Could be. Looks like Supercat and SIP are the only modules that call decode_utf8
16:04 Dyrcona Wel, I'll remove clean_text() (should be easy) test SIP, and then see what happens with Supercat look ups of these two records I have that break SIP.
16:04 dbs so if you try to decode it twice now, boom, whereas before decode_utf8() was safe to call multiple times on the same data
16:05 jeff supercat and/or unapi exhibit other non-crashy encoding issues.
16:05 Dyrcona Well, I find it breaks on utf-8 data, period.

Results for 2016-09-26

16:18 JBoyer (Ideally when most places don't need it...)
16:21 Dyrcona JBoyer: Thanks. I'll discuss that with the other folks here and see what they think. If we're still having "issues" tomorrow, we might just go with that.
16:22 Dyrcona It should be pretty easy to add.
16:22 JBoyer I'm not sure why it would be necessary though, if you don't have a value at all I think it should still be false. :/ (I haven't had a chance to test that change myself.)
16:23 Dyrcona Well, I haven't looked into it much. I just know that resetting to prior to that commit "fixed" it. :)
16:24 Dyrcona I only have 53 policy tags each for four oils_sip.xmls on as many servers...
16:24 Dyrcona Nothing that cssh and sed can't handle. :)

Results for 2016-09-23

12:22 * kmlussier will also recheck the page one last time to make sure I didn't miss any other glaring errors.
12:23 csharp berick: cstore does see the call
12:23 csharp which is 405466 bytes
12:23 berick csharp: ok.. so maybe tsbere is on to something.  it's easy to test that one.. sec
12:23 csharp ok
12:25 berick csharp: mind seeing what happens if you add this line (and restart trigger) -- maybe on a dev server if possible
12:25 berick https://gist.github.com/berick/f​4e1ac051ac8860faaf72816d867b460
12:27 berick yeah, exactly
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12:36 * berick steps away for a bit
13:02 csharp ugh - now I'm in a rabbit hole of trying to get logging working properly on my acq testing server :-/
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13:17 * tsbere dislikes finding 42 bib records with a bad type character
13:18 tsbere If anyone wants the query I used to *find* said bib records I am willing to share
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13:29 dbwells kmlussier: Took me a second, but I see the heading you are talking about now.  Sure, I can regenerate/repost them when ready.
13:31 kmlussier dbwells: Thanks! I've also caught a few typos that I missed on previous proofreading. Making the changes now.
13:36 csharp berick: same behavior after that change
13:38 csharp I was hopeful when a PO on our test server with 212 items printed, but the 313-long one that triggered the helpdesk ticket is still timing out
13:39 berick csharp: ok, mind trying one more thing?
13:39 csharp sure
13:39 kmlussier Do we have a 2.11 release branch yet?
15:15 dbs csharp berick: thank you for doing this work, it seems very very similar to what we're seeing (albeit more with checkins than triggers)
15:16 dbs because it seems superweird for a simple checkin to time out in the database
15:17 * dbs was wondering if networking issues (like ipv6 routing madness from years past?) might also be playing a role
15:17 kmlussier Bmagic: I'm unable to test the web client to see if I can replicate it, but there was a recent small fix to the patron search form that might be a starting point for your investigation.
15:17 kmlussier ee711968
15:17 pinesol_green kmlussier: [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1436987: webstaff - fix patron search form - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ee71196>
15:17 Bmagic thanks!
15:21 Dyrcona csharp: That would indicate that the call to create the trigger in the database failed.
15:21 Dyrcona Or timed out along the way, which you already know. :(
15:22 Dyrcona Well, the event output, rather.
15:22 berick dbs: well, this one is a problem with the size of the data, a blob of text way larger than any normal processing (unless you're bib records are .3 Megabytes in size)
15:22 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Add a simple Item Information test for SIP server - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9dd9dca>
15:29 csharp Dyrcona: stock as of 2.9.2
15:29 berick csharp: still on ubuntu 14.04?
15:29 csharp berick: yep
15:35 * Dyrcona hands out BLOBs.
15:36 Bmagic kmlussier: phew - it turned out to be some sort of browser caching issue - opened incognito and violla
15:36 kmlussier Bmagic: Glad to hear it!
15:38 csharp I'm going to have to stop working on this until I get my test server updated - I'm monkeying around too much on the prod servers :-/
15:40 Dyrcona @bartender
15:40 * pinesol_green fills a pint glass with Cantillon Saint Lamvinus, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/388/8954)
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Results for 2016-09-22

14:30 kmlussier Nope
14:30 graced kmlussier++
14:30 graced #topic Release Manager's Report
14:30 miker we have a tarball!
14:30 miker I've just seen word that testing is coming to a close soon, hopefully
14:31 miker dbwells has been coordinating testing across distros, distro versions, and postgres versions
14:31 miker tomorrow is a likely announce date, if it doesn't happen today
14:32 graced miker++
14:32 afterl miker++
14:32 graced dbwells++
14:32 sherbertbc miker++
14:32 afterl dbwells++
14:32 collum miker++ dbwells++
14:32 miker and, to be specific, dbwells cut the tarball on wednesday, on schedule. we're just being extra careful about testing
14:32 rgagnon miker++
14:32 miker no brown bags!
14:32 kmlussier miker++ dbwells++
14:32 gmcharlt miker++
14:32 gmcharlt dbwells++
14:32 terran dbwells++ miker++
14:32 miker also,
14:32 miker Bmagic++
14:32 miker jeff++
14:32 miker they're doing tests as well
14:33 afterl Bmagic++  jeff++
14:33 kmlussier Bmagic++ jeff++
14:33 graced Bmagic++ jeff++  because miker said so

Results for 2016-09-19

10:34 mmorgan Then blank out the field once they've run.
10:36 Dyrcona mmorgan: That's interesting. What delay do you use?
10:37 Dyrcona My oldest failed event is about 33 hours old at this point.
10:38 mmorgan Is this a trigger that runs several times during the day?
10:39 mmorgan I usually do this in testing, and use a very short delay, like 5 minutes so I can rerun as soon as I've tweaked.
10:39 Dyrcona Well, I'm assuming it is all SendEmail triggers, but I should really look through the now, 3,689 messages in the queue to make sure. :)
10:39 Dyrcona I don't have really have a testing environment.
10:39 tsbere Dyrcona: I would avoid doing the repeatability delay trick. As you are using existing triggers it would try and deal with things for older events too.
10:40 tsbere For testing *new* configs it is a useful trick though
10:40 Dyrcona My oldest delivery failure is about 33 hours old.
10:40 berick yeah, for a simple re-do, clearing the fields on the events will do it.
10:41 Dyrcona mmorgan: Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'm just going to clear the events.

Results for 2016-09-16

10:46 dbs current status: what the hell happened to take our nice "running with 5GB of free RAM for a full day" into an OOM situation just a few hours later in the middle of the night
10:53 Dyrcona A bot? A book on an enter key? A ridiculous search query?
11:04 Dyrcona JBoyer: This looks like the list of services required for SIP on a 2.9 installation: http://pastebin.com/MmVxGC9j
11:04 Dyrcona NOTE: I have not tested that on a VM or anything, so something might be missing.
11:05 Dyrcona That just looks like the things that could actually get used by the calls that the SIP driver makes.
11:06 JBoyer Dyrcona, I'm running on tuit fumes currently, but I've got a couple places I could test that out eventually. I'll admit trigger is a surprise, but I realize there are the occasional interdependencies that aren't always clear.
11:07 Dyrcona JBoyer: Well, circ could end up making a call to trigger. It probably won't but it wasn't totally clear.
11:08 JBoyer Ah, that makes sense for some of the active events.
11:09 Dyrcona I also could have spent more time on it. :)
11:51 dbs the Apache drones and their 150M of memory per process :/
11:52 Dyrcona miker: I can always take a look when I get the chance, which has not been very often lately.
11:53 * dbs was tempted to start working with nginx or a similar caching proxy again to try and offload some of that weight, but also doesn't want to add another layer of complexity
11:53 Dyrcona I've also had a hard time reproducing this myself on a test environment.
11:53 dbs miker: ah that's what I was thinking of, didn't realize it hadn't been merged yet
11:54 miker in particular, a pile-up occurs when we get a spew of requests that take a long time to process. the apache backends wait for the opensrf request to finish, even if the client side has gone away. the branch attempts avoid that wait, by checking at 1s intervals for client connectedness when it's inside modperl
11:54 miker dbs: well, we have had same-search guards for a long time ... 2.5, maybe? ... but that only saves the middle layer and the db
16:58 Dyrcona A new feature might be to add a command in the staff client to recalculate penalties.
16:58 phasefx the Refresh button triggers the api call for refreshing penalties
16:59 phasefx checking something in or out should also do it
17:01 mmorgan Hmm. On production system, 2.9, penalties are recalculating when I refresh.
17:01 mmorgan On 2.10.5 test system, penalties don't recalculate when I refresh.
17:01 phasefx mmorgan: are the org depths the same on the penalty definitions?
17:02 phasefx between systems
17:02 Dyrcona And all this time I thought that Refresh only retrieved the patron information again.
17:02 phasefx wasn't really joking when I suggested org units :)
17:04 mmorgan So on production system, PATRON_EXCEEDS_FINES has null org_depth
17:04 mmorgan test system has 0
17:04 phasefx what I don't have a good handle on is the behavior with org depths, I just remember they can cause problems
17:04 mmorgan but it's a consortium wide penalty
17:05 * mmorgan guesses this won't get solved today  will revisit on Monday;-)
17:05 phasefx mmorgan: I bet if you make it null on the test system it'll work
17:05 mmorgan Will try that next, but have to run. Have a good weekend, all!
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Results for 2016-09-15

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11:26 Stompro Thanks all for the damaged item nfo.  Now that I think about it more it is probably a bad idea to combine them, they are two seperate situations that get treated differently in our state law.  If we notify about damaged items we will send a seperate notice.
11:35 * Dyrcona wonders at the usefulness of an interface to undelete patrons. I guess it would only work here because the client doesn't do the obliteration dance on delete for ... reasons.
11:42 * kmlussier updates the MassLNC community demo server to 2.10.6 early because she had to test something on 2.10 anyway.
11:42 kmlussier For now, then, we're going to have 2 community demo servers on the same major release.
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12:00 Dyrcona "hello, headache, my old friend...I feel you've come to me again."
12:00 Dyrcona "it's just the pain of sinus..."
14:10 pinesol_green csharp: [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1464709 Rename checkout_ok to is_available - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2c40b84>
14:15 Bmagic miker: sorry for the delay - The SIP server is working as expected on 2.11rc
14:16 Bmagic my copy of production database was 2.9.1 and that did not work
14:16 miker Bmagic: sweet, thanks for testing!
14:16 miker oh? how did it break?
14:16 Bmagic I had to raise the db to 2.11rc (to match the Evergreen code) - auth errors otherwise - db functions missing
14:17 Bmagic I didn't try the SIPServer against 2.9.1 evergreen
14:17 miker oh, the db was 2.9.1 but the evergreen code was 2.11
14:17 Bmagic right
14:17 Bmagic I suppose the SIPServer will work against older Evergreen installs?
14:18 miker it should
14:18 Bmagic I think I can test that as well if needs be
14:18 miker old drivers should ignore the new parameter
14:18 miker JBoyer: did you test the new sip stuff (passing a workstation) against old evergreen that doesn't expect to receive that?
14:21 rjackson_isl miker: the boss is off to one of his many meetings currently so he will get back to you!
14:21 miker rjackson_isl: heh, thanks :)
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14:28 miker right, that's my reading too
14:29 * tsbere glares at the glare on his screen as well as the ineffective blinds that are full of intentional holes
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14:31 csharp kmlussier: I just pushed a probable fix to bug 1624025 to http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Ev​ergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/c​sharp/lp1624025_copy_status_missing_field - are you able to easily test it?  I'm not in a place at the moment where I can test it on my own server
14:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1624025 in Evergreen "Hold targeting weirdness in 2.11" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624025
14:33 kmlussier csharp: Yes, berick shared the same fix earlier (up above around the time I was complaining about comcast). It does indeed work.
14:33 csharp oh great :-)

Results for 2016-09-14

10:10 dbs JBoyer: We've run for 7 years on a single app server, the simplicity has been nice
10:11 * Dyrcona has fun with Internets. Could drop again without notice.
10:14 JBoyer dbs, there is something to be said for simplicity.
10:16 kmlussier I keep coming across bug 1013786 whenever I'm getting ready for Bug Squashing Day. I think we need to decide whether we want to push the code that's there, which already has two signoffs, or if we want to wait until the password strength test is moved to a self-contained routine, in which case we should remove the pullrequest tag.
10:17 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1013786 in Evergreen "tpac: Check for password strength at login" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013786
10:17 kmlussier Any thoughts?
10:17 * kmlussier guesses that nobody is actively working on it at the moment.
15:28 Dyrcona Hmm... It isn't always quick to branchify configs that are generated from .in files if you're not starting from git but from the modified output of the .in files.
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15:37 Dyrcona Because of things like this: 3 out of 10 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file eg_vhost.conf.in.rej
15:45 Bmagic miker: I am still testing this branch ( just resuming now )
16:04 Dyrcona One thing I've discovered in this process is that it helps to check out the rel_* branch for the release that your production server is on and do the comparisons/updates in that branch.
16:06 Dyrcona Then cherry-pick the resulting commits to a copy of master and/or any later rel_* branches.
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Results for 2016-09-13

16:41 miker the difference that my second commit makes is that it allows you to say "ignore the client's CP field, use this value from the config file"
16:42 miker well, it will if you do /not/ set client_location_code="true" for your institution(s)
16:42 miker which gives you the ability to migrate clients over time
16:43 Bmagic that should work, I will have to setup a test
16:43 miker by moving their account entries from one institution to another, with differing settings
16:44 miker please do! I'd like this to get into sipserver before 2.11 goes GA if possible, so sipserver master can be configured (at least) to not break any existing releases
16:45 jeff i may propose an alternate branch if i can get my thoughts together.
17:03 Dyrcona Yes. I would tend to agree with server wins.
17:04 miker anyway, I pushed one more commit that changes the institution policy setting "client_location_code" so that, unless that is set to "true", you get the old behavior (plus the ability to set the value in the config file)
17:04 Bmagic if a username/password is presented on the xml and from the client, who wins?
17:04 miker Bmagic: so, if you feel like testing, please try the tip of http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/SIPServer.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/head​s/user/miker/lp1579144_login_location
17:07 miker Bmagic: for an <account> you mean? the xml is considered authoritative. if they don't match (or the login fails at the ILS) then login fails... so, I guess the ILS is most authoritative, but between XML and client, XML wins. is that what you mean?
17:07 Bmagic yeah, another joke
17:07 Bmagic the xml has the username/password/workstation supplied and the sip client has the same. who wins on each one.....
17:09 * Dyrcona calls it a day.
17:28 miker git blame --annui ??
17:29 * miker really runs away
17:30 Bmagic lol
17:53 Bmagic miker: I just tested the SIP server code - something is amiss (probably me)
17:53 Bmagic LOGIN ERROR: 'Undefined subroutine &Sip::MsgType::to_bool called at Sip/MsgType.pm line 859.
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19:17 miker Bmagic: no, it's me. I'll look at that as soon as I can and let you know. probably in the morning

Results for 2016-09-09

14:53 bshum Yes, I believe that setting can stand in place for whatever is defined in the script that dbs/jeff pointed you to.  So that if it was configured, it would use that setting.  But you'd still need to run said reshelving script on a regular enough basis to make use of the proper interval.
14:53 bshum Unset, it's still default to 24hours wait time
14:54 ssieb oh, ok
14:55 StomproJosh Yep, just tested it out, the web self check will queue up a payment every time the pay fines button is pressed, and submit them all serially after the submit payment button is pressed.
15:05 mmorgan StomproJosh: We have never allowed payment in selfcheck. We hid the link to pay early on.
15:06 StomproJosh mmorgan, why?
15:06 Dyrcona Because it is broken? :)

Results for 2016-09-08

09:20 jeff can your apache hosts connect to memcached successfully?
09:20 dbs jeff: yeah, I realize that -- so many moving parts to tweak
09:21 jeff any cache-related errors in the logs?
09:21 dbs tested the apache memcache translator setting of 127.0.0.1:11211 via telnet and that works, no errors reported in the logs
09:21 jeff there are things that are fetched from config, from the db, and from memcached... also the template toolkit cache...
09:21 dbs yep
09:22 * dbs will get back onto debug_timing, whoever thought of adding that was a GENIUS
09:39 dbs It seems that the apache processes need to be initialized, subsequent requests don't show those kinds of slowdowns (157ms and 83.5ms for initial connection & ssl), so that's an outlier
09:40 Dyrcona dbs: yes, I've seen that Apache is really slow just after start up. Load also tends to stay high for a couple of minutes, then settles down.
09:40 dbs hah, there aren't many events in the stock /eg/opac/advanced page it seems, just New page and initial load (At 0.1836: Initial load)
09:40 csharp same here - just saw that on my test box
09:40 dbs btw, Dyrcona, thank you for http://blog.mvlcstaff.org/2013/​05/what-has-been-going-on.html
09:43 jeff worst case i can get is 2.30s Load time (per chrome devtools) on a fresh apache start, even with cstore intentionally hobbled to 1 worker.
09:43 jeff on a fresh apache start.
10:22 dbs we do have about 20 virtualhosts configured for both 443 and 80, so undoubtedly lots of parsing overhead
10:23 JBoyer Could be, this machine hosts nothing else and it's generally hit by outside users.
10:24 JBoyer NOT generally hit by users, that is.
10:24 Dyrcona So, you're testing against one of 20 virtual hosts on the same hardware? Could be the hardware is slightly overtaxed.
10:26 dbs Dyrcona: yep
10:26 dbs although load seems fine
10:26 dbs at 0.75 for the last fifteen minutes, on an "8 core" VM
10:30 JBoyer dbs, referring to your speed comment above, I'm seeing ~200Kb/s for our homepage on the same gigabit network. TCP startup speeds I'm guessing? With pages that "small" the speed may never be able to top out. ( I also see 2000Kb/s when testing localhost on it's public IP)
10:30 dbs total of 14 cstore timeout errors reported over the past 24 hours (determined by grep "perl:error" /var/log/syslog | grep cstore)
10:33 jeff also laptop-on-wifi here. local system gets me 111.196 ms mean over 100 requests (11.120 seconds total); webby gets 740.887 ms mean over 100 requests (74.089 seconds total)
10:34 jeff that seems to be more than just rtt hurting me there. second guess is ssl tuning, but in both cases ab selected TLSv1.2,ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384,2048,256
16:16 Dyrcona I want to start clark kent on the training server and it has a copy of production.
16:17 Dyrcona I set recur to false on all of the reports.
16:17 Dyrcona Is that all I need to do to prevent any surprise reports firing off?
16:17 Dyrcona We want to test some reports manually.
16:19 jeff also check for any reports scheduled to run which have not run.
16:19 * jeff refreshes memory on what columns he means
16:20 Dyrcona jeff: I was just going to aks.

Results for 2016-09-07

16:33 dbs "Powered by a Professional Organization of Heritage Preservation Institutions"
16:33 jeff the other, "deprecated" link is of course 404 (with a different powered by ad)
16:35 jeff broken link, broken link, document management system with spam from 2010...
16:42 bshum For fun, I just noticed that we haven't updated the version statement in the README that goes "Evergreen 2.8 has been tested on ...." (insert various Linux flavors).  I'm thinking either to toss out some commits to fix that in all the rel_2_x branches and give master the coming 2.11 (so that future branching and updates get a better number) or that we remove the version entirely.  Thoughts?
16:43 bshum I think it could work too with just plain "Evergreen has been tested on ..." various OS
16:47 dbs yeah, looks like it escaped the version numbers to bump part of https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.ph​p?id=dev:release_process:evergreen:2.8
16:47 * dbs looks at the short-lived https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=dev:evergreen:release_checklist
16:48 dbs but I agree with dropping the version entirely there

Results for 2016-09-06

15:05 dbs there's code in auth.c and auth_internal.c for setting wsid, I hope our use of auth_proxy + LDAP isn't triggering a weird path where wsid doesn't get set.
15:09 Dyrcona dbs: Did you just upgrade to 2.10?
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15:09 dbs Dyrcona: yep
15:10 dbs oddly enough, just tried my master-from-about-a-month-ago test server and it propagated the wsid just fine
15:10 Dyrcona Well, I would suspect the auth changes and something unforeseen with using LDAP.
15:10 Dyrcona Any particular dot release?
15:10 Dyrcona Like, 2.10.6?

Results for 2016-09-05

17:23 dbs oh, i see, we were still using libyaz4 from ubuntu, thus the libgnutls.so.26 segfacults when libyaz5 is linked against libgnutls.so.28
17:36 * dbs falls back and punts, removing libnet-z3950-simple2zoom-perl libnet-z3950-zoom-perl libyaz4 libyaz4-dev from the system and building Net::Z3950::Simple2ZOOM from scratch
17:38 dbs which built Net::Z3950::ZOOM from source as a dependency. And now our z39.50 server doesn't fall over. YAYYYYYYY
21:38 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] SIP manual testing formatting cleanup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e1a555e>
22:06 dbs Downside of that approach is that it seems to throw our Z39.50 import functionality for a loop, so imported records appear fine in the editor and then get corrupted or fail to import at all when you try to save them.
22:06 dbs *sigh*
23:44 dbs Best approach might be to run with the ubuntu packages on the evergreen server (for working z39.50 import of utf8 records with accents), and just install the yaz5 / simple2zoom bits on a separate vm to serve as the z39.50 server

Results for 2016-09-02

10:36 jeff i'm not quite sure how i managed to get this many for a single file without noticing.
10:37 Dyrcona My laptop doesn't crash much, but it's like playing Russian roulette after resume from suspend/sleep if it is going to act normal or exhibit one of two or three bugs.
10:38 * Dyrcona goes back to figuring out why some students didn't load yesterday...
10:40 Stompro Dyrcona, I just got done purging based on our migration date, lots of test load data, and batch global edits in there.
10:41 berick Stompro: we break our auditor data into 3 time categories and keep at most a certain number of entries from each grouping.  (We're only cleaning the copy auditor right now, more to follow).  the code i'm about to deploy: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4585​7003181c8b0083c4d66e07d003d4478f29a
10:41 Stompro berick++ , thank you.
10:43 * berick notes some of the comments in there mention specific values for variables which are, in fact, variable
15:44 Stompro But for things like the various receipts and reports, that shouldn't be a problem.
15:45 * Dyrcona gets a lot of deprecations warnings on npm install.
15:48 Dyrcona bshum berick: grunt all just worked. Did you two do anything to fix that issue or has npm fixed it?
15:49 jeff are you talking about the test failure fixed in commit 6bc0bc2?
15:49 pinesol_green jeff: [evergreen|Jeff Godin] LP#1618136 Fix webstaff IDL2js.js test failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6bc0bc2>
15:49 jeff (that was unrelated to npm, so i'm not sure if that's what you mean)
15:50 Dyrcona jeff: I think that is it. My memory ain't what it used to be.
15:50 Dyrcona jeff++ bshum++ dbwells++
16:08 * Dyrcona answers his own question: Yes.
16:08 Bmagic wifi--
16:09 kmlussier Why is it not 5 p.m. yet?
16:11 miker Dyrcona: the point testing of that branch is not to change the server tz -- that should be whatever it should be -- but to change the /client/ tz and confirm that times are 1) recorded in the client tz 2) show up in the client tz. that is, a client in central time should see times in central, even if they were written in eastern and the server is in eastern. and that those times should be the /real point in time/ not the same string. does that make
16:11 miker sense?
16:12 Dyrcona miker: Yes. I could just change my server to UTC and get a similar effect, no?
16:12 miker eg, if someone checks out an item at 1pm EST, a client in CST will see the circ happened at noon CST
16:12 miker um, no
16:15 kmlussier berick: Brazil! Hopefully, they have no Schlitz there.
16:15 miker perhpas
16:15 Dyrcona Well, if I do some transactions in EDT and change my timezone to CST to view them later, that should work.
16:16 miker I guess my point is, the real world test of the branch is about "do times displayed in the client and opac use the client TZ?"
16:16 miker Dyrcona: right
16:16 jeff miker: agreed!
16:16 miker jeff: but, in the real world, one wouldn't be changing the server's system TZ
16:17 jeff miker: it doesn't matter which one has changed, just that they are different.
16:17 miker so, while that might aproximate the effect, I wouldn't trust it, necessarily. too many things (like database settings) could (in a real world setup) get in the way
16:18 miker anyway, testing++
16:18 miker Dyrcona++
16:18 miker jeff++
16:18 * miker steps away from all keyboards for a bit
16:32 Dyrcona Heh. Doesn't work if you start services before configuring the database in opensrf.xml....
16:43 Dyrcona Hmm.. /eg/staf/ leads to a login, but /eg/opach/home leads to an internal server error.
16:43 * tsbere would expect both of those to be 404s, honestly ;)
16:48 tsbere Dyrcona: I have gotten errors like that when the IDL didn't initialize properly. Did apache come up too soon or something?
16:49 Dyrcona Yeah, my next thought after cstore not running was the idl. I ran autogen, and started apache. I'll restart apache and see if that helps.
16:50 Dyrcona tsbere++ # A restart helped.
16:50 Dyrcona Well, now that it seems to be working. I'll shut it down and do the testing tomorrow.
16:54 Dyrcona Well, have a nice weekend, everybody!
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17:32 Bmagic I'm trying to login to my new test server via SIP. I am getting an error about workstation not found. Anybody have something off the top of their head before I dive in?
17:34 berick Bmagic: it's ringing a bell w/ a recent bug...
17:34 berick Bmagic: bug #1259196
17:34 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1259196 in Evergreen "SIP support workstation option at login" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259196
17:35 Bmagic oh good!
17:35 Bmagic berick++
17:36 Bmagic I am running master on this test machine though
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17:38 Bmagic my login message contains the CP for the insitution, now it's workstation?
17:40 Bmagic oh boy, this is going to break some stuff in the wild for sure

Results for 2016-09-01

15:19 berick uh, done
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19:17 jeffdavis bmills: for your test database, how important is it to have realistic transaction data (e.g. a subset of real circulations)?
19:19 jeffdavis I have a set of scripts that pulls some data (bibs/holdings, config) from our production environment and uses it to generate a small-ish test dataset with fake patron records, but it doesn't currently include circs, holds, bills, triggered events, etc.
19:21 bmills jeffdavis: oh nice! transaction data would be great from action.circulation, but record/item level info would be more important
19:23 jeffdavis Ok, I'll see if I can strip out the Sitka-specific stuff and share that with you.
19:23 bmills jeffdavis: thanks!

Results for 2016-08-31

10:18 jeff berick++ miker++
10:41 kmlussier StomproJ: I was reading your question from last week regarding Reshelving status. We have a site that did not have the option to run the Reshelving script more frequently than every 24 hours (too large). They ultimately went with a label change to "Recently Returned" that seemed to make people happy.
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11:13 jeff hrm. need to spin up a pre-2.10 instance to test something.
11:18 * csharp dreams up library-themed horror movie: THE UNRETURNED
11:19 berick csharp++
11:20 dbwells csharp++ # I needed that laugh :)
13:27 jeff it is inconsistent with the current xul client's checkin option from a patron's Items Out
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13:27 jeff but it really only matters when you're dealing with an unusual situation, like a patron with an open circulation on a deleted copy.
13:28 tsbere Which is important
13:28 tsbere But not a normal test case
13:28 jeff checking in a deleted copy by barcode will either fail (because the barcode is not found), or will checkin the wrong copy (because another item with that same barcode has since been created).
13:28 mmorgan jeff: right. We've had confusion about that in the past.
13:28 jeff in my case, the latter happened.
15:26 * berick hopes more than 4 people are coming to the hackaway
15:26 Dyrcona csharp: Are you done working on Lp 1360347
15:26 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1360347 in Evergreen "Wishlist - New LSE setting for Acquisitions" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1360347 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
15:26 Dyrcona The status is in progress, but the code changes look good to me and we'd like to test it.
15:30 jeffdavis I've got a pcrud drone that's been running for over 40 minutes, chewing up a lot of CPU. Is there any way to find out what it's up to while it's running? I get the impression that the request (whatever it is) won't be logged until it's complete.
15:31 * JBoyer hopes there are at least 18 others coming, or there'll be bills to pay. :/
15:31 jeff jeffdavis: have you tried attaching to it with something like "strace -p PID_HERE" to see if it's just spinning?
16:10 jonadab "What's the worst that could happen?"  "You mean besides starting a global thermonuclear war?"
16:10 * dbs upgrades the upgrade plugin
16:11 dbs I'll be good and wait until I can backup the wiki directory first before I upgrade the wiki.
16:15 csharp Dyrcona: I'm done until I can actually test it, yes.  Our Acq person is out for a while, so I'm waiting for her to return before experimenting
16:15 csharp Dyrcona: please test if you have the means to do so
16:16 csharp dbwells: I kept seeing "banjo" in there too :-P
16:17 * csharp prolly won't bother bringing the ol' ukulele this round
16:19 Dyrcona csharp: Thanks. I'll see if I can do anything to test it in the meantime, too.
16:19 csharp Dyrcona++
16:19 * Dyrcona tosses another iron in the fire. ;)
16:26 StomproJ Ooops, just merged all the Readers digest large print into reader digest... to the auditor tables.  Where is the undo button in psql.
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16:42 StomproJ Hmm, it doesn't look like asset.merge_record_assets deletes empty volumes, which works out well for me, but I wonder if that is intended.
16:43 csharp StomproJ: I'll test it, but it will take a long time to apply on our test system, so it won't be quick :-)
16:43 StomproJ csharp++ thanks.
16:43 csharp we have a buncha muncha cruncha bibs
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Results for 2016-08-30

14:09 jeff The situation where I was experiencing it was within our mobile app, so I'm not sure (without digging) if it was in that abstraction layer or an issue within the tpac itself.
14:11 tsbere jeff: Part of the headache there is you get a failure reason set for *every copy*. Which set of reasons do you pass to the end user?
14:11 tsbere I made it so that if age protection was the *only* reason on *any* copy then that information would be passed back up. But anything else is likely to get lost.
14:12 gvi I'm at the point of testing the staff client.  I've entered so many user names in the last few hours I don't know which one to use.
14:13 tsbere gvi: You probably specified the username/password at the eg_db_config step.
14:13 gvi OK thanks.
14:14 gvi That was it.
17:06 Dyrcona I can probably come up with a SQL to fix the circulations in the mean time.
17:07 Dyrcona I'll take a stab at a fix in the coming days.
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17:20 phasefx incidentally, it looks like live_t/purge-user-activity.pg is failing now
17:21 phasefx and on the perl side, live_t/18-lp1592891_sip_standing_penalties.t
17:21 phasefx actually, wrong test on that last one
17:21 phasefx live_t/19-lp1306666-abort-transit-copy-status.t
17:40 Dyrcona phasefx: If that last one is failing, I'm not sure why. I'd have to play with it some more.
17:42 * Dyrcona sees about building a xenial vm from an ISO. It has been failing with vmbuilder since sudo was updated yesterday.
17:45 * Dyrcona give vmbuilder one last shot.
17:48 phasefx for that abort test, it's expecting Reshelving, and getting Canceled Transit.  I haven't looked more closely than that.  Maybe the behavior is correct and the test needs updating
17:50 Dyrcona Ah, OK. I hadn't noticed that csharp's branch had gone in.
17:50 Dyrcona I thought the tests were to be rewritten before that happened.
17:51 Dyrcona I'll see if I can get around to fixing the tests by this weekend, but I can't promise much.
17:56 Dyrcona And, yeah, vmbuilder is still choking on sudo.
18:13 Dyrcona virt-manager is being a pain. I wish I could remember the options that I used for virt-install that last time.
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Results for 2016-08-29

11:36 * Dyrcona should have remembered.
11:38 jeff it appears to be the SQL strings.
11:40 * Dyrcona didn't get that far. ;)
11:52 jeff Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default​/staff/test/data/idl2js.pl outputs an IDL2js.js for testing which is not valid javascript.
11:52 jeff doesn't seem to be a problem for the OpenILS::WWW::IDL2js handler, though... thus, /IDL2js doesn't seem to break (or generate invalid output)
12:01 jeff possibly because something in that chain already strips out newlines -- maybe the locale bits in the subrequest that /IDL2js uses
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12:17 eeevil jeff: yeah, I updated the handler to strip newlines (and sql comments, required by the newline stripping).  I wasn't actually aware of the test script
12:18 jeff just got to that part.
12:20 jeff I believe those two things are the only current (stock) users of fm_IDL2js.xsl
12:30 jeff bshum: did you open a bug yet?
13:04 jeff my launchpad hasn't noticed yet.
13:04 jeff there we go
13:04 jeff bug 1618136 has my proposed fix
13:04 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1618136 in Evergreen "webstaff build/test failures related to IDL2js" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1618136 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
13:05 * jeff unassigns self
13:05 jeff i opted for "preprocess in the same way" as opposed to "try to do those transforms in XSL so that fm_IDL2js.xsl does what the filename claims" :-)
13:06 bshum Haha
13:31 jeff that sounds... annoyingly similar to your kernel update -> different ethernet driver -> different device name woes from earlier in scrollback.
13:32 tsbere jeff: Doesn't it? Differences including that it isn't a server I normally maintain, I wasn't installing the updates, and the network was *configured*, it just decided to change firewall modes on it.
13:33 tsbere jeff: Oh, and the person who was installing updates is supposed to be on vacation and emailed me to go deal with the problem.
13:37 bshum Tested the patch jeff and it does let me get to the next steps and have a working web client
13:46 eeevil jeff: I'd be 100% in favor of having the xslt do the processing -- I'm too tuit poor to dig back into xslt string mangling now, though.  as evidenced by my "fix" for getting any IDL views to work at all ;)
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15:38 Dyrcona jeff: Do you think the branch on bug 1618136 is ready to go? bshum tried it and I can try it and possibly push it to master tonight.
15:38 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1618136 in Evergreen "webstaff build/test failures related to IDL2js" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1618136
15:44 jeff Dyrcona: IMO it's ready to go, yes. at some future point we might return and enhance fm_IDL2js.xsl to no longer require pre-processing, but the branch as it stands fixes the test failure.
15:44 Dyrcona OK. I can agree with that, but fixing it for now is good enough for now. :)
15:45 Dyrcona I'll give it a whirl this afternoon/tonight unless someone else beats me to pushing it.
15:46 Dyrcona I still need to really look at the timezone branch, too. Other things come up, y'know? :(
15:46 jeff I think it follows with the original spirit of the idl2js.pl support script: transform the IDL to js in a way similar to how OpenILS::WWW::IDL2js does, but do it without requiring that we already have a running system.
15:47 jeff My branch just updates idl2js.pl to keep up with some new things that OpenILS::WWW::IDL2js does.
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15:48 Dyrcona Yeah. I eyeballed the diff already. It looks good. I asked bshum to sign off since he tested already.
15:48 Dyrcona I don't think 3 signoffs would hurt. :)
15:49 eeevil jeff++
15:50 eeevil Dyrcona++
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17:32 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jeff Godin] LP#1618136 Fix webstaff IDL2js.js test failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6bc0bc2>
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17:37 dbwells grabbing 1000
17:42 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1618183: Add Spanish to config.i18n_locale - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=dddb70d>
18:18 Dyrcona Ah, man. My drive home takes too long. ;)
18:18 Dyrcona dbwells++
18:20 Dyrcona Well, I don't think it was just using the wifi at work that prevented my ssh to the vms, 'cause it isn't working now, either.
18:25 dbwells Dyrcona: If you want something to do, a hot, fresh tarball could use some testing: https://evergreen-ils.org/downloa​ds/Evergreen-ILS-2.11.beta.tar.gz
18:26 * dbwells heads home
18:27 Dyrcona OK. I'm trying to figure out why my vm networking is broken.
18:27 bshum dbwells: One potential reason not to backport the Spanish thing is cause it's an INSERT and if someone upgrades to 2.10.next with it, then try to upgrade to 2.11.0, they'll likely bomb their upgrade due to a rollback when it tries to INSERT the same entry a second time later on
18:28 bshum Either that or we try to safely add it in a separate part of the 2.11 upgrade script
18:31 bshum I'll defer to gmcharlt on backport opinions; I'm fine with just focusing on the future with 2.11
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18:34 Dyrcona So, apparently, I built the xenial vm but didn't fix the networking after.
18:34 Dyrcona bshum: Did you test the new tarball on xenial?
18:35 bshum Dyrcona: Not yet, I just got home too :)
18:35 Dyrcona Well, I'll test trusty if you test xenial. ;)
18:35 bshum Haha, deal :)
18:35 bshum I'll spin up a new VM install in my virtualbox
18:35 bshum I got 25 minutes till dinner anyways :D
18:36 bshum I can grab the tarball and finish the rest of the Evergreen install setup
18:37 bshum I stopped at prereq installing earlier
18:37 bshum So, perfect.
18:37 Dyrcona Yeah, I was going to install on trusty where I tested the 2.9.7 tarball, but s'pose I could build a fresh one.
18:38 Dyrcona I should build a vm just with opensrf and save a snapshot.
18:39 bshum Heh, perhaps
18:39 bshum I was just thinking the same thing actually
19:13 Dyrcona Well, it woks for me. I tried the OPAC and the browser staff client.
19:14 bshum Dyrcona++
19:14 Dyrcona Aw, shucks...T'weren't nothin'.... ;)
19:15 Dyrcona bshum++ # For finding the test issue.
19:15 Dyrcona jgodin++
19:15 Dyrcona jeff++
19:15 bshum csharp++ # he got me looking for it in the first place

Results for 2016-08-28

12:02 bshum Might be a npm problem or something.  I'm having trouble grabbing the dependencies
12:02 bshum Node issues do occasionally happen :\
12:14 * bshum might try again later
12:29 csharp bshum: I got version mismatch warnings during the run of the -developer Makefile.install option, then grunt all died on a PhantomJS test
12:29 csharp I didn't preserve it, but I'll redo it on a fresh xenial box before reporting a bug
12:30 * csharp is still doing battle with ejabberd/apparmor
12:31 csharp I think I'm going to have to start over - I've been experimenting with aa commands without documenting as I go :-/
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14:58 bshum csharp: warnings aren't always bad. There are lots of deprecate warnings on some of the pinned versions. I'd be most nervous on the failure for grunt all
14:58 bshum My box wouldn't pull the npm deps down so I assume some node difficulty. I'll try again later when i get back to a computer.
14:59 bshum I saw the apparmor denied warning in syslog after setting up opensrf
14:59 bshum Didn't seem to affect the math test, but I did see the same message for ejabberd
15:00 * bshum tries to pay attention to the broadway show now
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Results for 2016-08-26

09:46 mrpeters but, i assume websockets still need to be set up manually as a part of opensrf
09:46 Dyrcona Well, I don't know what your debs building process does.
09:46 Dyrcona Yes, I believe it does.
09:46 Dyrcona I usually build OpenSRF from git when testing tarballs.
09:47 Dyrcona It's typically already installed on my vm, anyway.
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09:47 mrpeters the debs were just packages of the latest version of the bower/grunt modules from npm

Results for 2016-08-25

11:07 * gmcharlt also notes bug 1616882
11:07 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1616882 in Evergreen 2.9 "string missing in translation file" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1616882
11:09 Dyrcona I saw that one last night. I'll defer to others if it should be pushed today.
11:10 Dyrcona I have not yet started on builing and testing a tarball. I'll need to update the release notes, etc.
11:11 Dyrcona Right now, I'm preparing a vm to do the testing.
11:12 gmcharlt I'll be doing my release-cutting in mid-afternoon
11:15 Dyrcona I'll wait until then, too.
11:16 Dyrcona Might as well get the translation fix in, even if it won't make a difference to 2.9...
12:14 miker jeff: the naive user of multiplex does everything in one process. we just do connection brokering in the main process, and everything heavy in forked workers. benefit is that quiescent sessions don't waist resources (and most sessions are quiescent, even for folks with sorters and such)
12:18 miker Dyrcona (and everyone else looking at i18n stuff, thanks!): i18n commits get a pass from me, esp. in early beta -- IMO it's more important for us (with relatively low translation rates) to make new strings available for translation by GA than to have a perfectly locked translation target as of beta cut-off. I'm open to opinions, though, if folks think that will cause more harm than possible good
12:20 bshum +1 to that approach, we only do template syncs during the period between beta and release, so any fixes for strings is better now than six months or more from now.
12:23 jeff miker: aha! thanks for the explanation. i was pretty sure based on gut/experience that the warning didn't apply in this case, but I was having a hard time explaining it to myself. :-)
12:25 jeff also, i'm pretty sure that the new workstation support breaks when the auth session expires, and that we can probably stuff the workstation in the ils state hash to preserve it in those cases.
12:26 jeff ("breaks" as in "silently logs back in without a workstation")
12:27 jeff i'll test / branch
12:31 JBoyer jeff, do we not just require the client to log in again on an auth timeout?
12:34 jeff JBoyer: not a sip client, at least not in the case of Multiplex
12:35 JBoyer Well then I suppose that case was overlooked. :/
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12:58 jeff yeah, i'm in there. what do you think -- re-open and comment on original bug for the feature, or new bug?
12:58 JBoyer As for storing the location in state, I believe it's already in $self->{login}, it's just that verify_session doesn't use it.
12:58 jeff JBoyer: also, i was testing behavior when a location code doesn't correspond with a workstation.
12:58 jeff JBoyer: did you already test or have thoughts on that?
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13:01 JBoyer I know it fails in a similar fashion to other issues, such as an expired / missing Eg account, etc. I wasn't too worried about it at the time, but I don't see a problem with retrying sans workstation. The alternative is you just insert whatever workstations you need into your db if your clients force you to use a hard coded location. (seems unlikely)
13:03 Dyrcona Hmm.. I just did a fresh install of osrf_rel_2_4_1 from git on my Ubuntu 14.04 vm and osrf_control --start-all appears to hang.
13:28 jeff JBoyer: yeah, anything's possible in circ script days, but from what I can see neither stock nor our old MIEG circ scripts ever threw (that particular event) on checkout, just renew.
13:29 csharp berick: howdy - do you have a favorite Linux-installable or web-based EDI reader?
13:29 jeff JBoyer: the ability to use an org unit setting to block/permit renewal when "needed for a hold" was new in 2010.
13:29 berick csharp: I use Open-ILS/src/support-scripts​/test-scripts/edi_reader.pl
13:30 jeff it gets a little murky, but COPY_NEEDED_FOR_HOLD may have even been thrown at one point instead of "copy is on holds shelf". :-)
13:30 csharp berick: heh - I didn't know about that - thanks
13:30 berick csharp: spits out JSON that's fairly human-readable
14:08 gmcharlt Dyrcona: I've reviewed 1496556 and intend to backport it to rel_2_10 as part of today's release; are you in a position to also including that in the 2.9 release?
14:09 gmcharlt if so, I'll push it to both rel_2_10 and rel_2_9
14:09 Dyrcona Sure! Thanks!
14:10 * Dyrcona is still working on getting a working vm to test the tarball.
14:10 * Dyrcona hasn't made a tarbal, yet.
14:11 gmcharlt OK
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17:22 jeff this has raised two other issues which do not require me to stump the client vendor:
17:23 jeff 1) why is my SIPServer instance sometimes dropping its syslog ident, and 2) why is this SIP server returning N for acs renewal policy when it seems to be set to yet, and doesn't seem to have changed.
17:23 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
17:28 jeff oh wow. it's...
17:30 * jeff tests
17:34 jeff yup. my SIP server flips from a Y to an N for the acs renewal policy after the initial worker is reaped.
17:35 jeff and once that flips from Y to N, the on-screen renewal interface on this client changes from sending renew[29] to sending checkout[11]
17:39 Dyrcona jeff: The first part sounds like a bug. The second part sounds normal for an approximately reasonable definition of "normal."
17:40 * Dyrcona is about to find out if he installed everything on his laptop needed to make a tarball.
17:40 miker jeff: being no SIP2 expert, I would expect EG to treat a checkout to the same patron as a renew automatically in SIP context (via some API flag or name). but it sounds like my expectation is false...
17:43 * Dyrcona would not be surprised either way. :)
17:44 Dyrcona And apparently, yes, I did install the packager prereqs already.
17:44 jeff miker: a SIP2 checkout[11] message sent to evergreen will renew the item, as long as various conditions are met.
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17:47 jeff the SC needs to have sent renew_ok = Y, the Evergreen SIP implementation needs to think that the patron who has an open circ on the item is the same as the patron in the SIP checkout request, the institution config needs to have renewals set to true, etc.
17:48 jeff i don't much care if the sip client uses renew or checkout to do a renewal, it was just that in testing some fixes to the same-patron detection and "needed for hold" messages i was hitting one code path and other times not.
17:49 jeff thus, the shovel and large pile of dirt.
17:50 miker :)
17:50 miker but, a bug is found. so that's something.
17:50 jeff yes!
19:51 Dyrcona You should be able to move them with sudo.
19:51 gmcharlt gotcha
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20:52 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 7 commits to Evergreen...
20:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Adding 2.9.6 Release Notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7f609d0>
20:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Docs: Adding 2.9.7 Release Notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0f717f5>
20:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Docs: Add Additional 2.9.7 Acknowledgments for Testing/Signoff - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=66dfd05>
20:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] forward-port 2.9.6-2.9.7 schema upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=dc0d286>
20:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] forward-port 2.10.5-2.10.6 schema update script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=936fbc2>
20:57 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
20:59 gmcharlt https://evergreen-ils.org/everg​reen-2-9-7-and-2-10-6-released/
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Results for 2016-08-24

14:53 Stompro sandbergja, You are welcome.  Let me know if you have any problems with it.  You need the asset.call_number.id and the new label name as arguments.
14:55 csharp miker: ah... that's better
14:55 miker grabbing 0995
14:56 csharp okay, I've pushed a commit on top of my fix for bug 1613374 and I want to test it with mmorgan's testing method before calling it done, but I'm letting others know in case they want to look/test after me
14:56 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1613374 in Evergreen "Feature Request: "Canceled Transit" Item Status" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613374 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
14:57 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Moving function creation to later in the schema def, where its deps exist. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9fc0603>
14:57 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1614290: Add badge_score_generator to example crontab - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fd725a7>
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15:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1603708: Remove support for Ubuntu 12.04 Precise - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=be0ed35>
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16:04 * kmlussier needs to leave and won't be able to test https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1497335/ again if berick is able to incorporate the changes he made in his last comment. If anyone else has tuits to look at it, feel free!
16:04 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1497335 in Evergreen "Display aged circulations for copies (was: "virtually aged circulations")" [Wishlist,New]
16:06 csharp miker: bug 1613374 looks good to me after some poking
16:06 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1613374 in Evergreen "Feature Request: "Canceled Transit" Item Status" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613374 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
18:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1497335 Aged circ display release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5769707>
18:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1497335 Show Last Few Circs patron retrieve options - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3f2d3a0>
18:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] Stamping upgrade scripts for aged circs display branch - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=15ad6d4>
18:42 miker and ... that's it, folks.  I think I've merged anything that was ready to be merged and was a feature.  the remainder are bug fixes, or are in some way not complete or well tested enough (given their relative invasiveness).  Now, on to bug fix merging (not today)!
18:42 * miker calls beta locked for features
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19:06 Dyrcona miker: If you're still around, what do you think of bug 1583608?

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