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Results for 2017-04-26

04:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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14:45 Dyrcona Yes.
14:45 gmcharlt hmm... yeah, it should
14:45 * Dyrcona changed his mind. It does mean that.
14:45 kmlussier berick: Yes. I used to keep the pullrequest on, but then people would keep testing it on Bug Squashing Day.
14:45 berick ok, good, thanks everyone.  I dun good.
14:45 gmcharlt berick++ # granular bugging
14:45 * kmlussier pats berick on the back.
16:01 bshum Maybe
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Results for 2017-04-25

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11:31 Dyrcona JBoyer: Neither. I'm just trying to use systemd.
11:32 Dyrcona I am looking into moving to a distro that doesn't have systemd, but lack of time...
11:33 jeff JBoyer: i threw together unit files for a test system here. it seemed to do the trick.
11:33 JBoyer I see. There was a bit of a curve, yeah. :/ I've got an opensrf.service and clark-kent.service that work as expected on my laptop if anyone is interested in them.
11:33 jeff and by "seemed to do the trick", i mean "i could reboot the single-VM test instance and end up with a running evergreen instance"
11:34 Dyrcona JBoyer: I am opposed to systemd as it not being the "UNIX way."
11:34 JBoyer If Evergreen is going to continue to prefer Debian based systems then I guess it would be a good idea to get a set of service / unit / whatevs in there.
11:34 Dyrcona I've also had to reboot far more often with systemd than in the past.
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12:18 dbs jeff++ JBoyer++
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12:30 gmcharlt miker++ # using createdb --template src_eg_database works a treat for standing up a test DB quickly
12:33 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I've been doing that for quite a while. It's a lot faster than doing a pg_restore. :)
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13:14 Dyrcona gmcharlt | rhamby: Any reason not to push Lp 1545115 at this time?
13:14 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1545115 in Evergreen "config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and config.hold_matrix_matchpoint need a description field" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545115 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
13:15 Dyrcona I'm looking at it and all the tests pass, and it just works in the web staff client.
13:15 rhamby Dyrcona: I hadn't tested it in ages but since you and gmcharlt have I have no objection
13:17 Dyrcona It just shows up in the xul client, too. Same dojo interface. :)
13:19 Dyrcona rhamby: It looks good to me. The description shows up in the client and the database and that's all anyone could ask for. :)
13:20 rhamby Dyrcona: well, there's the autofill input from the telepathy API that I'm working on but so far all it does it put in random strings from H.P. Lovecraft short stories.  No idea why.
13:20 Dyrcona Hehe
13:22 * kmlussier feels bad because she suspects she never loaded that code on a Sandbox for sandbergja to test. :(
13:24 Dyrcona I guess since gmcharlt signed off, it's OK to push.
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13:25 rhamby kmlussier: busy people who volunteer for lots of things shouldn't feel bad when the prove occasionally human
15:14 bshum gmcharlt: I'm going to try putting together a branch with all the i18n fixes out there and then running things through POT / PO sync for master.  Right now, master is busted due to a new table that was added to the fieldmapper but is not part of the PO template.
15:15 bshum Well, try running the sync using a Trusty server, so that we don't muck up the XUL stuff.
15:15 gmcharlt bshum: sounds good
15:15 bshum If the branch tests okay, then I'll put it somewhere and just request to get the whole thing merged for master to get us back up to date and working
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15:59 bshum dbs: An i18n question or thought... do we want to run the make install for a specific locale and update the POs in git with the latest id data for things like db.seed?
16:00 bshum Right now, we're not changing the final PO files in git with that data, but I wonder if we should sync that up at some point.
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16:15 dbs bshum: hmm, probably?
16:16 dbs I know, that's not particularly helpful
16:16 bshum dbs: I guess the only reason I'd want to see it included in git is so that we can get towards a clean repo
16:16 bshum Where changes are actually meaningful
16:17 bshum Not just generated file differences
16:17 bshum Though, speaking on that, I still have to go back and figure out what should or shouldn't be added to .gitignore
16:17 bshum At first I thought everything, then I decided maybe nothing, now I'm thinking maybe a few new things
16:18 bshum dbs: Either way, if you don't have a strong preference against it, I'd be inclined to add a commit to my new branch to test adding those into history then.  Thanks :D
16:18 * bshum will keep experimenting
16:27 dbs You are talking about the PO files and not the generated .sql files, etc, right?
16:28 bshum dbs: Correct, the PO files themselves have a bunch of IDs and stuff already in them
16:29 dbs okay, yeah that sounds sane
16:29 bshum And so far, my test with pocommentclean seems to be handling fixing them okay
16:29 dbs yayz
16:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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16:48 * mmorgan notices that in Checkout in the xul client, spaces are trimmed from the beginning and end of barcodes, so if a leading or trailing space is entered by mistake, it will be ignored and the checkout will proceed.
16:48 mmorgan I don't see that the same trimming is happening at checkin.

Results for 2017-04-24

02:26 jonadab At worst, it ought to be possible to use a user stylesheet to make them go away.  If your browser supports that.
04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:49 Bmagic so, do any of the aformentioned bugs address this? Or should I make another one?
10:51 dbwells Bmagic: I haven't seen this particular wrinkle come through yet.
10:51 berick yeah, i think it's a new/separate bug
11:01 * dbwells tries to tweak the test file to account for this case and fail
11:05 csharp wsmoak: regarding a Chrome plugin, have you seen this? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/libr​ary-extension/chkgcmmjoejpekoegkedcpifgfhpjmec
11:05 csharp it works with PINES
11:06 csharp what the Guest account was trying to do in Evergreen is exactly what we want in PINES - manual loading of ebook bibs is the pits and we have policy problems with batch importing bibs from non-OCLC sources
16:16 csharp http://theoatmeal.com/comics/printers sums it all up pretty nicely
16:20 kmlussier Ha! csharp++
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Results for 2017-04-23

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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18:58 auvajs hi.. I don't have time as for now (it's 1 am here).. but I must say that installing evergreen made a mess on my server.. cause eg_vhost.conf made some changes as to the apache configuration! RedirectMatch 301 ^/$ /eg/opac/home .. this is really crazy! all site's 301 redirects!!
18:59 auvajs why isn't restricted to evergreen subdomain?!

Results for 2017-04-22

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16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
20:44 wsmoak How do I turn off the "Messages" at the top right?  I already get email and text messages when things are due or ready for pickup.  I don't want to be notified in the webapp.
20:45 wsmoak This seems to be new? `eg/opac/myopac/prefs_notify` doesn't have an option for it.  /cc: csharp (it's gapines)
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Results for 2017-04-21

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:47 dbwells bshum: Are you going to to ahead and push the pot/po bits to rel_2_12?  If not, I can take care of it whenever you're done looking them over.
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09:54 bshum dbwells: Feel free to push away
09:59 dbwells bshum: will do, thanks
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10:15 dbwells bshum: So, I noticed in this po push the final deletion of string like "Example Branch 2".  It seems like we would still want those translated for anyone trying out Evergreen.  Perhaps we should add Open-ILS/tests/datasets/sql/libraries.sql to the translation process?
10:16 bshum dbwells: I noticed that too for other things I was testing
10:16 bshum dbwells: And yeah, adding the sample dataset as a translation option sounds like a good idea
10:17 bshum But building that out will require a little more thought I think
10:17 bshum Probably similar to how we do db.seed-data-values.sql now I guess.
10:18 gmcharlt maybe? sample data (as opposed to test case data) strikes me as something where we don't necessarily want _mechanical_ localization
10:18 gmcharlt or, rather, where such a thing would be less ideal than getting somebody from the relevant locale to put together realistic data
10:19 gmcharlt anyway, here's an easy-peasy webstaff pullrequest for someobdy to test and merge: bug 1685232
10:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1685232 in Evergreen "webstaff: pcrud.apply() does not work" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685232
10:19 gmcharlt also pointing out that pcrud.apply(), when it works, can be quite handy
10:21 berick gmcharlt: hm, i thought I fixed that already.
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Results for 2017-04-20

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14:54 Dyrcona It's ugly, but I guess necessary.
14:55 Dyrcona Anyway, I'm all for "making it easier to plop fieldmapper into angular input widgets"
14:57 berick gmcharlt: ah, that's too bad about getterSetter not being supported everywhere.  your solution looks reasonable to me.  certainly better than a lot of ad-hoc cross-talking
15:01 * Dyrcona is testing ngingest and it appears to be working.
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17:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 2.11.4 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d3e591d>
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19:16 bshum Dyrcona++ # for regex help
19:16 bshum berick++ # for ansible advice
19:17 bshum I'm doing a full test of the new additions I've made for i18n before I push it to the collab
19:17 bshum I think I've got all the kinks worked out, and if so, we shall have i18n options built in for the ansible installer very soon
19:17 * bshum waits for apt-get upgrade to finish on his fresh VM
19:19 Dyrcona Aw, shucks. 'Twerent' nothin'.
19:24 * bshum watches the magic unfold
19:40 bshum Yay!  It worked!  :D

Results for 2017-04-19

04:19 bshum Have to learn how to parse that better to find the culprit issue
04:20 * bshum stops digging his grave and tries going back to sleep now
04:24 pastebot "bshum" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "ar-JO error log with fieldmapper parsing" (1 line) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/83
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09:53 Dyrcona charsets--
09:53 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yes, that's right. Because we missed the maintenance releases last month, and there were a lot of patches in the 2.10 branch that are not yet in a tarball.
09:54 kmlussier dbwells: Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification. I was going by the call for buildmasters gmcharlt put out last month.
09:55 terran kmlussier: Nobody has tested this yet - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1681943
09:55 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1681943 in Evergreen "Improve Responsive Design in My Lists" [Undecided,New]
09:56 kmlussier terran: Ah, yes. Thanks for the reminder. Given the poor state of the current lists on a small screen, I was planning to treat that as a bug fix.
09:57 berick kmlussier: i threw my hat in for 3.0 builder (as far as I knew)
16:13 dbs although it's translating the msgids, not the msgstr. go home google
16:14 remingtron Bmagic: have you had a chance to build a tarball for 2.12?
16:14 Bmagic working on it atm
16:14 remingtron cool, let me know when you want some testing
16:15 Bmagic shouldn't be too long now (I have been pulled around to all kinds of stuff today )
16:16 Bmagic oh, and to make sure, I'm using rel_2_12 ?
16:16 gmcharlt eyp
16:22 gmcharlt you'd create a new tags/rel_2_12_1  branch just before doing the make_release step
16:22 Bmagic This will be a first then
16:29 * Dyrcona has much rebasing to do today and tomorro.
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Results for 2017-04-18

04:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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11:02 ddale This link should take you to it  http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/8​2?tx=on&amp;submit=Format+it%21
11:03 ddale Keep in mind these are the topics of discussion. Some were determined to be already resolved during discussion.
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11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1670407 Lost checkin re-opens transaction - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4ccad96>
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1670407 Add tests for xact_finish close/re-open - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=687da46>
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15:40 bshum abneiman: Aha, yeah I wondered if that was the case.  Makes sense.
15:40 bshum I put some initial reply up there to point them at a few places.  Guess we'll see what they actually want/need.
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Results for 2017-04-17

04:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:38 * csharp discovers nice tool for initial diagnosis of SPF problems: http://www.openspf.org/Why
09:39 bshum csharp++ # always handy :)
10:07 bshum fwiw, I tested my branch changes for newer nodejs for fresh wheezy and it installed with the -developer target there too.
10:38 auvajs hello.. I succesfully installed Evergreen :)) my first question: how can I change settings so that the stuff browser client is not located at  https://localhost/eg/staff/login but on address like https://staff.mydomain.com ? I installed evergreen on a vps so that accessing the site via the vps localhost is kinda uncomfortable..
10:42 bshum auvajs: Congrats on the successful install :)
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15:27 berick error, success, and zero
15:27 berick so you might need some additional logic in there to chose the right sound
15:27 phasefx gotcha
15:27 berick and probably remove the error sound from the error handler or it will fire 2 times
15:28 berick patronSvc.patrons.length == 0 for the zero-hits test
15:30 berick well, no, that's probably over complicating it
15:30 berick leave error.patron.by_search where it is.  put success.patron.by_search and warning.patron.by_search both in the main resolve handler (where warning.patron.by_search is now)
15:31 berick and just check ofr patronSvc.patrons.length to determine which of those 2 to fire
15:31 phasefx berick: so I'm assuming putting something in the error handler slot will keep finally from firing.. unless maybe you do a return false; or somesuch from it?
15:32 berick no, finally always fires
15:32 phasefx k
15:32 berick so it makes sense to close the dialog there, because it should always go away, but not so much the sounds, because you don't know how you got there, unless you add other context information
15:34 phasefx berick: look sane? http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/80   well, need to change close to close()
15:35 phasefx and get rid of that explicit success earch
15:35 phasefx sound
15:36 phasefx http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/81
15:36 phasefx well, that could make warning trump the error
15:37 phasefx so do which_sound <> 'error' && patronSvc.patrons.length == 0
15:37 phasefx or == 'success' && etc
15:37 * phasefx tests all this
15:38 berick yeah, i think that would do it
15:43 phasefx berick: found an unrelated bug.. doesn't seem to be a big deal, but if I do a patron search get results, then try to clear out the search form and hit Search again, sometimes I'll get cached results from a previous search
15:44 phasefx on the bright side, sounds are working :)  except for 0 results on a completely empty search, but I'm not inclined to do anything about that
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16:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
17:16 bshum dbs: The more I work on i18n stuff for db.seed fixing, the more I'm starting to think we're missing a major step between newpot and update_pofiles in https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.ph​p?id=dev:release_process:evergreen:2.8
17:17 bshum dbs: When I run the option for "make update_all_locales" in the directory to sync the PO templates against the existing PO files, I get a ton of changes
17:17 bshum And in reading through our wiki steps for release making, I don't think that's happened
17:17 bshum Which is why there's such a massive upheaval when I run it locally.
17:18 bshum and it generates out a whole slew of fresh PO files (mostly empty of course) for all the various locales and files we now translate for.
17:18 bshum I'm not 100% sure if we want it to generate all these empty translation files or not yet.  My next step in testing is to see what it'll do with PO sync against the bzr branch for exported translations from LP
17:19 bshum But I think we might need to invoke some extra steps here
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20:27 dbs bshum: yeah, translations.launchpad.net / pootle etc are effective just abstracted front-ends for editing those PO files

Results for 2017-04-16

04:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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16:54 auvajs hi, I tried to install OpenSRF according to the manual - http://evergreen-ils.org/documentati​on/install/OpenSRF/README_2_5_0.html
16:54 auvajs I did all the steps but I got stucked in point Nr. 14
19:18 jonadab I assume postgress is installed at least?
19:18 jonadab How far did you get?
19:19 auvajs ah I'm sorry it may have been already working, ERROR:  database "evergreen" already exists :))
19:20 jonadab Ah.
19:20 jonadab That means the database got created.
19:20 jonadab (Though it may not have many data in it.)
19:21 jonadab I assume you're doing a test setup, not an actual migration at this point.
19:22 auvajs of course
19:22 jonadab Yeah, I just like to say some of my assumptions out loud, just in case.
19:22 jonadab Sanity check to make sure we're on the same page.

Results for 2017-04-15

04:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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23:44 ariez102 HELLO
23:44 ariez102 can anyone help me to install evergreen ils into my ubuntu?

Results for 2017-04-14

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09:37 Dyrcona Java 2 was just marketing hype.
09:37 Dyrcona They (Oracle) still call it JDK 9, JDK 8.
09:37 Dyrcona So they have split versioning going on.
09:39 Dyrcona And my created database finished a few minutes ago. Time to test my eg_staged_bib_overlay script.
09:40 Dyrcona OK. So I messed up an option, obviously. :)
09:42 Dyrcona All right. I omitted --dbhost, and this gives me an opportunity to make the script more generic.
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16:11 jeff etc :-)
16:12 mmorgan :)
16:13 jeff Bmagic: yeah, only minor changes required, and one would probably be handled automatically by git and the other would be a no-op, but I'm commenting on bug 1331174 right now.
16:13 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1331174 in Evergreen "Long Overdue processing needs org unit settings separate from Lost Processing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331174
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16:39 kmlussier I tried installing the web client again. I'm getting an error when I run npm install. https://pastebin.com/qevBnNc0 is what I see in the logs.
16:52 jeff kmlussier: is that at the point where you've installed the LTS version of node and you're running "sudo npm install -g grunt-cli"?
17:04 bshum I installed everything earlier this afternoon and all was fine
17:05 jeff bshum: what version of node and npm do you have installed, and what distro are you using?
17:05 kmlussier OK, I'm going to have to investigate later. I need to run off for the evening.
17:05 bshum jeff: I was testing the Ubuntu 16.04 ansible stuff
17:05 bshum So it used the makefile developer target to install node, etc.
17:06 bshum I'm spinning up a new fresh VM to try that out again
17:06 bshum On my other computer
17:07 jeff bshum: looks like you would end up with nodejs-legacy 4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4 in that case, which might be the difference between success and failure in your case vs kmlussier's case
17:08 jeff bshum: i.e., what might have worked for you earlier today on xenial might not work for kmlussier on trusty.
17:08 bshum jeff: Oh I see trusty
17:08 bshum Ah okay no I just didn't scroll up far enough
17:08 bshum I haven't built on trusty lately
17:08 jeff 16:55:27 < kmlussier> jeff: No. I run ubuntu-trusty-developer Makefile.install target as the root user in an earlier step, which should install the dependencies for me.
17:09 bshum Or at least, not before the conference
17:09 bshum It could be also the new stuff we changed for bower->npm... maybe that's unhappy with something on trusty :\
17:09 bshum And I broke it when we merged that
17:09 bshum I'll spin up a trusty VM to check I guess
17:34 * bshum thumbs his fingers waiting for Evergreen to finish installing pre-reqs
17:36 bshum Okay, moment of truth coming up
17:39 bshum Yup, unhappy :(
17:43 bshum So it is related to the bower/npm switchup
17:43 bshum It's choking on "angular-order-object-by": "rxfork/ngOrderObjectBy#npm"
17:43 bshum Maybe our aged version doesn't know what to make of that line
17:44 bshum I'll try installing a newer node and seeing what it does differently with that.
17:48 * bshum hacks his trusty makefile to use the wheezy style for installing newer node
17:54 * bshum waits, and waits, and keeps waiting...
18:02 bshum Hmmmm
18:02 bshum Yeah
18:02 bshum Okay
18:03 bshum So using a newer version of node helps with the problem
18:03 bshum But I have discovered that the Makefile for Wheezy has not been updated to work with a newer version of node
18:04 bshum It's still installing from source for version 0.10.28
18:04 bshum Cause that's what it still says in the Makefile.install source file
18:04 bshum We fixed it in the eg_wheezy_installer for random repo, for the live test building
18:04 bshum But the actual installer isn't working quite right
18:05 bshum So we should rip all that stuff out
18:05 bshum But yeah, Trusty also won't work without a newer node version
18:05 * bshum goes to eat
18:06 * bshum brings his laptop to think with while he eats
18:42 bshum @later tell kmlussier Check out my work in progress branch:  http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/E​vergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user​/bshum/newer-node-for-wheezy-and-trusty
18:42 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
18:42 bshum I ran those Makefile changes through a test on Trusty and ended up with newer nodejs and able to run all the npm package installs for Trusty
18:42 bshum Same changes should apply towards Wheezy too
18:43 bshum If it works out, we need some tweaks to the README instructions so that the Wheezy specific steps can go away and we can just stick to recommending use of the -developer make target
18:44 bshum I think it ought to work for the debian-wheezy-developer target too.
18:44 bshum But it's untested
18:44 bshum I'll try more of it later on.
18:44 * bshum goes out to enjoy his Friday :)
18:47 bshum dbs++ # for new nodejs inspiration from the auto installer scripts
18:48 bshum kmlussier++ # for helping to find the problem
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18:58 kmlussier bshum++
21:05 jeff Looking at circ policy for a library that makes a circ-duration distinction between "new" items and "replacement" items... currently they use a circ modifier on the "new" items, and while it's so tempting to use "Item Age <" in a circ policy matrix, that won't do it...

Results for 2017-04-13

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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06:52 dbs_breaker_of_t Okay, now to find out why that path wasn't happy.
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09:42 kmlussier dbs: Sometimes phasefx will do an unscheduled livetest run if a fix to the tests is added.
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10:00 jeff just as i was about to remark on how useful irc logs can be, i find a case where i xkcd 979'd myself.
10:00 jeff "oh hey, there's the error."
15:50 Dyrcona I haven't tried Haskell, though I've sniffed around the edges.
15:50 Dyrcona An erlang implementation/transport for OpenSRF seems natural enough without ejabberd. :)
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15:51 Dyrcona But erlang syntax is really weird, and I look at back at the sample/test programs I wrote in 2010/2011, and I wonder, "What does that do, again?"
15:52 Dyrcona I should write an OpenSRF/gateway client in Emacs Lisp. I might actually have a use for that.
15:52 jonadab Yeah, I haven't tried Haskell either; from what I know of it, it seems sort like lisp with a higher learning curve, for smarter programmers.  Or something.
15:53 Dyrcona s/smarter programmers/masochists/ # Fixed that for you. :)
16:11 Dyrcona Lots of database stuff going on.
16:12 Dyrcona New fingerprints, new 901$s field, browse and facet ingest...something else that update 9 million records in our system, but runs fast compared to the others.
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16:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:33 bshum yay!  success!
16:33 bshum dbs++
16:36 Dyrcona :)
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19:45 * dbs breathes a sigh of relief
19:48 jeff those hourly test failure charges would have made for a terrible weekend. ;-)
19:52 dbs jeff: that reminded me to shut down my GCE instance
21:04 * gmcharlt has the first development update blog post queued up to post tomorrow morning
21:12 * bshum contemplates renaming "2.next" to "3.next" in LP

Results for 2017-04-12

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07:03 kmlussier I'm going to delete all of those EvergreenILS tweets that suddenly appeared from the Planet Evergreen feed overnight. Not sure what happened there.
08:54 dbs because they were "new" :)
08:54 gsams oh, so that's why my RSS went crazy
08:54 kmlussier Ah! That explains everything. I thought the problem was with the app I use to republish the feed on Twitter.
08:54 dbs I managed to add a "umm, max of 2 new entries per feed" limit after that
08:55 dbs but too late for the twitter feed (and I bet it shuffled all of the other entries around too)
08:55 dbs sorry for the churn folks
08:55 dbs yes I need coffee as I dive in to see what happened with the test build... I see the karma tests failed but WHY? :)
08:56 dbs thanks for cleaning up the twitter feed kmlussier
08:56 gsams @coffee dbs
08:56 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Bonsai Blend Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to dbs
08:56 kmlussier The Twitter stuff made me forget there was a test failure.
08:57 kmlussier I'm guessing it's related to the removal of bower?
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09:00 dbs yep
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09:06 dbs oh, I have a theory. live-test builds runs "grunt build && grunt test" whereas our install instructions say to use "grunt all"
09:07 dbs but just tried that with no failures, albeit not on a wheezy system. hmm
09:09 dbs ah, [33mWARN [watcher]: [39mPattern "/home/opensrf/Evergreen/Open-ILS/web/​js/ui/default/staff/node_modules/angul​ar-sanitize/angular-sanitize.min.js" does not match any file.
09:13 dbs weird, it's installing the right version of angular-sanitize. how is it not finding that file?
09:15 Dyrcona No wonder reporting is so slow...There are so many views that depend on action.all_circulation, at least in our database.
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09:32 miker dbs++ # cache busting
14:18 berick that's probably it
14:18 berick oh
14:18 berick i would expect that to work..
14:19 csharp I expected it too - I'm going to do some more testing on it to try and nail down what's up
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14:32 kmlussier csharp++ # acq bug squashing
14:37 csharp berick: behavior right now - on a 4-lineitem PO with one copy per lineitem, I activate it, receive 3 copies (which marks the lineitem received), cancel the copy on the last item (which doesn't affect the lineitem status) then I use the dropdown menu to cancel the lineitem - PO stays "on-order"
16:37 Dyrcona Yeap. That's what happened, and I have four stashes hanging around.
16:38 Dyrcona Too much swinging from branch to branch.
17:01 berick csharp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ever​green/+bug/1257915/comments/14
17:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1257915 in Evergreen "Acq: purchase orders stay "on-order" with some lineitems received and the rest canceled" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
17:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
17:04 berick gmcharlt: alas, rollover_phone_to_print.pl to print has been disabled here for a while.  i'm in the dark on that one.  I can eyeball it, though.
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17:31 csharp berick: rock on - I'll give your branch a go
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19:26 bshum dbs: I just added some thoughts for use of pocommentclean on https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1681864/comments/1
19:26 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1681864 in Evergreen "db-seed.po files need cleanup to remove duplicate IDs from generated localized seed data" [Medium,Confirmed]
19:26 bshum In my very limited initial test, I think it'll help us to fix all the IDs in the comments.
19:27 * bshum will experiment further after dinner.  Or maybe tomorrow if he decides to go to bed early instead
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20:12 csharp berick++ # your branch works for me - signoff on the way
20:39 jonadab That building was _residential_?  I assumed it was office spaces.
21:20 jonadab Yeah, at the conference.
21:20 jonadab The blue one.
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22:33 dbs bshum++
22:34 dbs I've had a few issues of the Launchpad "try again later" over the past couple of weeks, yeah
22:34 * dbs tries to concentrate on the wheezy build issue
22:47 dbs once this is fixed, maybe it's time to consider jessie or xenial (or both) as the live-testing platforms?
22:47 dbs wheezy is dead in a year: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
23:11 berick can practically hear it wheezing
23:13 * dbs suspects 'npm --version' returning 1.x when installed with nodejs 0.10.x, vs. npm 3.x with a more modern mode, might be a factor
23:14 dbs "npm install -g npm" gets us to npm 4.x (and a warning that nodejs 0.10.x is ancient, what are you thinking?!?) and sure enough, angular-sanitize is now installed as a dependency of ng-toast.
23:15 dbs and that fixed the tests.
23:18 dbs we should consider updating some of those deps; grunt-cli 0.1.13 was 2014, and as of 2016-04 was at 1.2.0
23:20 dbs similar to grunt itself (0.4.5 2014-05; 1.0.1 2016-04)
23:27 dbs but then we install grunt-cli globally and use that so we get the latest anyway? hmm
23:32 dbs anyway, pushed a fix to the wheezy_installer so hopefully we'll see the tests back to happy tomorrow

Results for 2017-04-11

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:48 pinesol_green csharp: [evergreen|Mike Rylander] We don't have a matched_attr column anymore, because we're using the fancy expression tree, so test for 901c match directly - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=813ac36>
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09:55 jeff ah yes, a 2011 vintage commit. code that survives mostly unchanged to this day. excellent selection, sir!
09:58 csharp jeff++
09:59 csharp jeff: the funny thing is, I have hit this bug before: https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1170514/comments/5, but I didn't update our production server, just the test server using acq
09:59 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1170514 in Evergreen "vandelay.auto_overlay_bib_record discrepancy" [Undecided,Confirmed]
09:59 csharp life is just endless circles
10:09 jeff is vandelay.auto_overlay_bib_record the only affected function?
10:10 jeff but yes, i can also confirm that we have the outdated function
10:11 jeff i have replaced some other vandelay functions before, but without checking notes i don't know which functions, or the underlying reason for needing to replace them.
10:11 jeff but apparently not this function.
10:11 dbs so what's the situation with merging to master / rel_2_12 now? any special processes beyond the usual double sign-off + test(s)?
10:13 jeff dbs: with the added explicit statement that rel_2_12 would be bugfixes and not new features, I think you've got it correct.
10:14 dbs okay, thanks for the verification :)
10:20 * kmlussier catches up to where we left off with the web team two years ago.
10:31 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1170514 in Evergreen "vandelay.auto_overlay_bib_record discrepancy" [Undecided,Confirmed]
10:34 * Dyrcona wonders if make release can make a db upgrade script without making a tarball?
10:43 * jeff looks askance at this email regarding the non-optional disclosure of certain information to conference exhibitors and sponsors
10:44 bshum dbs++ # new test
10:45 jeff is that sharing/disclosure something that attendees agree to when registering on eventbrite? i was not responsible for my registration / signup this year, so i can't pull from my own experience.
10:46 jeff I know it's pretty typical for many conferences (I still get spam and junk mail over a decade later). I just didn't know that this conference was one of those.
10:46 kmlussier jeff: In the past, there was a checkbox on the registration form.
10:54 kmlussier JBoyer: If the vendors are at the conference, though, they would be able to get the list. But was there a list this year? I didn't see one.
10:54 jeff last year the list was sent to attendees as an expiring dropbox link to an xlsx document.
10:54 kmlussier My recollection is that the "This list is not to be published..." language was in the footer of every page of the attendee list. Just to make it clear.
10:55 bshum dbs: I remember encountering https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1681864 when I tested the fixes for i18n in db.seed too.  But I found that if I were to remove the resulting PO files (git clean or whatnot since we don't track them) and then rebuild, it would align the expected IDs.  Presumably when doing make_release for new tarballs from git, this would approach would work similarly as long as we worked on clean repositories, but if any leftover files
10:55 bshum were in the way, then yeah... duplicates
10:55 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1681864 in Evergreen "db-seed.po files need cleanup to remove duplicate IDs from generated localized seed data" [Undecided,Triaged]
10:55 jeff this year i've not seen a list or mention of a list, other than the one that is apparently being given to sponsors/exhibitors which you can only partially opt out of.
10:55 jeff it's just a little unusual, either a departure from past practices, or more transparency about what was always done in the past and we just didn't know about it. dunno!
16:44 jeff oh, hah.
16:44 jeff [comment redacted]
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17:02 bshum dbs++ # new test is successful!  so says the test run above :)
17:08 kmlussier Yay!
17:08 kmlussier dbs++
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21:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1680624 angular-ui-bootstrap stopped shipping minified files - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4a068d0>
21:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1680624 Remove bower packaging bits - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c66d632>
21:43 dbs bshum++ # thanks!
21:49 bshum Of course, right after I do that
21:49 bshum I think about the automated builder
21:49 bshum http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=work​ing/random.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/hea​ds/collab/phasefx/wheezy_installer
21:50 bshum And the fact that the test run tomorrow needs updating
21:50 dbs well that's the random.git one, yeah, I can poke that
21:50 dbs really the automated builder should just use the make targets that y'all painstakingly added rather than its own workarounds
21:50 bshum +1, for sure

Results for 2017-04-10

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04:13 NxT Hi all, i'm looking for a guide or info on how to integrate 3M RFID Readers into Evergreen - is this possible? what do i need for this?
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11:30 alynn26 gmcharlt++
11:30 mmorgan gmcharlt++
11:30 mmorgan Not too hard, I hope;-)
11:32 Dyrcona Heh. Make sure you run your scripts in the correct test database. :)
11:33 Dyrcona A missing copy location can cause you problems.
11:43 gmcharlt alynn26: miker: bit more to the problem, but webby is now fully back up
11:45 gmcharlt er, mmorgan ^^
14:05 JBoyer (provided, of course, that all of the IDL links are accurate and functional)
14:05 jeff yeah, and reproducing what we have in Jasper in this case might be as simple as defining a creative new report source in the IDL
14:05 csharp JBoyer: I was just thinking about that
14:05 jeff i haven't tested, though.
14:07 jeff grr. google's index of docs.evergreen-ils.org is out of date, and of course the site's search box uses google...
14:07 jeff if only i had a local git repo that i could grep...
14:07 jeff oh, wait!
14:08 alynn26 @dbs that is what I had to do to fix the ones I had in a very large bucket.
14:08 pinesol_green alynn26: As great as you are man, you'll never be greater than yourself.
14:19 dbs pinesol_green: I do not like your gender assumptions
16:22 Dyrcona I may just wipe it out by hand.
16:26 Dyrcona Yeah, think I'll just purge the packages, then delete anything left behind by hand.
16:26 Dyrcona Then, I'll link /var/lib/postgresql -> /db before installing the new version.
16:39 Dyrcona So, on a test vm were i did a pg upgrade, I cannot now remove postgresql-9.2 after running the delete_old_cluster script.
16:40 Dyrcona The package status is BB in aptitude.
16:41 jeff presumably you've broken the prerm/postrm scripts' ability to do their jobs.
16:41 jeff or just one of the two.
16:47 Dyrcona Well, this is a throwaway vm that I made to practice the pg_upgrade process.
16:47 * Dyrcona should bet back to actual work.
16:54 Dyrcona So, on training, I removed the packages and then deleted the leftover data files.
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17:22 berick yay, code4lib '18 in DC
17:24 Bmagic yep!

Results for 2017-04-09

03:45 bshum As is, running the sync work off lupin for now
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09:20 dbs bshum++
09:21 dbs I applied the Windows 10 Creators Update on my dual-boot laptop last night because I like being up to date even on OSes that I almost never use
09:22 dbs And of course it destroyed grub. That Sys Admin IG was timely :)
09:23 dbs I did get to test my branch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1681095 last night and force-pushed a fix
09:23 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1681095 in Evergreen "Extend browser cache-busting support for all stylesheets, JavaScript, and images in default public catalogue" [Undecided,New]
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16:19 dbs oh jeff... looks like I beat you home despite leaving 15 hours later than you. delta--
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17:50 dbs csharp: oh no, are you still getting home tonight?

Results for 2017-04-07

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Results for 2017-04-06

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14:28 gsams Dyrcona++
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14:36 mdriscoll While updating a test system to 2.12.0 I noticed a bug in upgrade script 1026.  I opened launchpad bug 1680554.
14:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1680554 in Evergreen "Upgrade script 1026 transposes metabib_field.id" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680554
14:37 kmlussier mdriscoll++
14:46 mmorgan mdriscoll++
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15:54 gsams csharp++ #I appreciate your work, it's nice to have a solid refresher.
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17:30 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Install a modern Node.js - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=33e365b>
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06:06 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen!
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16:08 Bmagic rjackson_isl: no problem,  will do!
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17:38 Bmagic Anyone want to do dinner?
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19:03 gmcharlt I have successfully jumped the puddle, and am here

Results for 2017-04-03

00:10 dbs gce
00:11 dbs I had almost ponied up for another linode, or a digitalocean, for the month, but... forget it
00:52 jeff linode's hourly only stops when destroyed, not powered off. also, no concept of an elastic ip, iirc.
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16:38 bshum Safe journey folks, I'll be down sometime Wednesday PM.
16:42 hbrennan See you soon! I start my journey tonight, because #Alaska
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12:06 pinesol_green [evergreen|Eva Cerniňáková] Docs: Information for system administrators about translations - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a511b6d>
13:43 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: replacing XUL client docs with Browser client docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ec97182>
17:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
17:13 dbs huh, weird, mod_headers was not enabled by the jessie auto-installer
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23:02 jeff hrm. syrup gets slow with a course site with 132 items on it. little to no caching of item status, it seems.

Results for 2017-04-01

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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14:14 dbs Hmm, anyone know the resolution of the projectors we'll be using at the conference?
15:33 gmcharlt I do not, alas
17:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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Results for 2017-03-31

05:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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16:14 Dyrcona Heh. I'm looking through my branches and deleting those that are fixed released.
16:15 Dyrcona While doing so, I'm looking at the Lp bugs.
16:15 Dyrcona I'm finding updates that I missed during the week of 2/20 because I got bogged down with fixing broken servers and basically ignored LP and other list email.
17:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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Results for 2017-03-30

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16:12 JBoyer I'm out until the conference next week, see some of you then!
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17:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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17:46 jeffdavis @later tell kmlussier OverDrive download link bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1677813
17:46 pinesol_green jeffdavis: The operation succeeded.

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