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Results for 2017-07-11

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10:56 Dyrcona Yeah, and Josh Berkus reported performance hits with ht once you get past the number of actual cores.
10:57 JBoyer Yeah, they're basically only 1/2 - 3/4 of a real core, some things are going to block in weird ways.
10:57 JBoyer I did turn it off on my machines eventually.
10:57 JBoyer But Proper Testing (tm) sounds interesting, I'm curious to see what you find.
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10:58 Dyrcona I've never used pg_bench before, so it might take me a few weeks to do proper testing.
11:01 Dyrcona So, I'll try -j 40 just for kicks. :)

Results for 2017-07-10

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:02 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Kenya Peaberry Thika Gethumbwini, and sends it sliding down the bar to Freddy_Enrique
10:02 Dyrcona @tea
10:02 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Laoshan Black, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona (http://ratetea.com/tea/ver​dant/laoshan-black/6664/)
10:33 csharp hmm - interesting: https://metacpan.org/pod/Email::Send
10:33 csharp "Email::Send is going away... well, not really going away, but it's being officially marked "out of favor." It has API design problems that make it hard to usefully extend and rather than try to deprecate features and slowly ease in a new interface, we've released Email::Sender which fixes these problems and others. As of today, 2008-12-19, Email::Sender is young, but it's fairly well-tested. Please cons
10:33 csharp ider using it instead for any new work."
10:36 Dyrcona Yeah, that rings a bell. Think I've known that for a while.
10:36 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1466502 ?
10:36 Dyrcona I believe our use of Email::Send predates that though.
10:56 jvwoolf1 Is anybody using the ebook integration as-is in 2.12? Or are you waiting until circulation is in play?
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11:02 Freddy_Enrique *reading the manual while listening megalovania
11:21 Dyrcona jvwoolf1: We're testing it on training, but I've only had reports that someone's circulations are not showing up and have not looked into it.
11:22 gsams So it looks like we've had reports start duplicating for some reason, has anyone ever seen that happen?
11:27 csharp gsams: outputs or scheduled reports?
11:27 gsams csharp: schedule reports
14:20 Dyrcona miker++ # Thanks, also.
14:51 Dyrcona Now, to tune the beast.
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Results for 2017-07-09

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Results for 2017-07-08

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Results for 2017-07-07

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:52 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Add doc for Cash Reports feature - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3a61058>
08:52 kmlussier Happy Friday #evergreen!
08:53 kmlussier @coffee everyone
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13:40 berick Dyrcona: you mean any patron?  i grab from money.usr_summary with balance_owed <> 0 -- not exactly "easy"
13:40 Dyrcona berick: Thanks. I was think of doing something like that.
13:40 Dyrcona thinking...
13:41 Dyrcona I'm testing some SIP code and need a patron with fines.
13:53 csharp heh - just found an ack-grep easter egg: "ack --bar"
13:54 csharp well, "found" means "read the man page and saw the option", but still :-)
13:56 bshum HA!  hilarious, csharp :)
15:17 csharp Dyrcona: yeah - I used to stay logged in there, but only lurked
15:18 csharp Freddy_Enrique: hope to see you there
15:18 Dyrcona I still lurk, occasionally chime in.
15:19 Dyrcona So, looking for patrons for this test from money.usr_summary isn't working or the changes broke the SIP code more than one would expect.
15:19 Dyrcona I've tried hundreds of patrons so far, and not one has had a fine items count greater than 0 or returned a list of fine item details.
15:20 Freddy_Enrique yeah, For what I can tell, anyone could attend it
15:20 Freddy_Enrique Ill take a BIG dictionary with me in case i make it in tiem
16:31 jeff only on tuesdays.
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16:31 Dyrcona If it's Tuesday, this must be Belgium!
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Results for 2017-07-06

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15:02 ohiojoe #topic Ongoing Business
15:02 sandbergja Sure!
15:03 ohiojoe Progress on Docs Reorganization project
15:03 sandbergja With the help of a student here, we were able to put together a proof-of-concept
15:04 sandbergja that divides the big monolith of official documentation into different manuals for different folks in the library
15:04 sandbergja #link http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org/
15:04 sandbergja there's something wrong with the serials module, but the others should be ready to explore
15:04 katiemartin neat!
15:05 sandbergja they are not perfect by any means, but should help to give us a feel for what our docs would look like in a more audience-focused format
15:05 jihpringle that's awesome!
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17:00 Bmagic When the EDI mechanism FTP's a file from the Evergreen server to the vendor, can we customize the file extension to meet the vendor's requirements?
17:00 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
17:02 berick Bmagic: yes, somedir/*.edi (for example) should do it
17:02 Bmagic that belongs in the "out"
17:03 Bmagic Their server has a directory "in" and "out" - which I suppose is in their point of view. Therefore, "in" means incoming TO THE VENDOR. And "out" is FROM THE VENDOR
20:33 Fr0z evergreen*
20:34 jonadab The catalog maybe?
20:34 Fr0z yes
20:34 jonadab I mean, I don't know that much about penetration testing.  I know what it _is_, but it's not something I've ever dabbled in.
20:35 Fr0z and one more thing :P.is it easy to handle as a newcomer?
20:35 jonadab Only if somebody else does the installation.
20:35 jonadab Installing Evergreen is more complicated than installing most software.\

Results for 2017-07-05

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:52 bshum I guess it doesn't like you, hmm...
10:53 dbs Seems like it
10:53 dbs bshum: using the "admin" account?
10:53 * berick was testing w/ admin
10:53 bshum dbs: Yep, admin user
10:53 dbs *sigh*
10:54 bshum Registered my workstation at a different spot, just in case too
14:25 gmcharlt tossing out a random documentation note: clicking on the datepicker used in webstaff changes whether you are selecting a day, or a month, or a year
14:25 gmcharlt er, clicking on the *title* element
14:26 berick thanks gmcharlt
14:27 csharp hmm - having an issue on my 2.12 test server: Method [open-ils.circ.copy_note.retrieve.all] not found for OpenILS::Application::Circ - but I can see that that method is indeed in that file :-/
14:28 Dyrcona csharp: Is the IDL OK? Ran autogen?
14:28 berick csharp: perl -c Circ.pm compiles OK?
14:28 Dyrcona I've got more, but I'll wait. :)
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Results for 2017-07-04

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10:07 Freddy_Enrique Good morning :)
10:07 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/GYVRNa.jpg
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12:40 dbs @later tell Freddy_Enrique yes if you're logged into Launchpad you should be able to help translate
12:40 pinesol_green dbs: The operation succeeded.
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Results for 2017-07-03

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12:51 berick ah, right, so that almost suggests ignore the targets during pre-lookup, then determine the targets as each group is collected.
12:52 berick that would slow it down.. but yeah not sure how much it matters in practice
13:38 miker note: stacked reactors can't just be "split reactor field on commas, run each" because some reactors are really only the start of a larger process, like print notices, and you need to know which reactor created which output. it's a whole infrastructure thing
13:58 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 8 commits to Evergreen...
13:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1661685 webstaff: add money.grocery to pcrud - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3630820>
13:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1661685 fieldmapper label change for circ - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5a42920>
13:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1661685 webstaff: Fix Owning Lib in Item Status - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=dada0a5>
13:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1661685 webstaff: Circ Lib column for Items Out - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f6a1851>
13:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1661685 fix circ lib in patron holds list - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=972202a>
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16:42 csharp @quote random
16:42 pinesol_green csharp: Quote #87: "<jeff> responsive XUL isn't really a thing." (added by bshum at 02:49 PM, July 30, 2014)

Results for 2017-07-02

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21:31 csharp it disables gzip for conify stuff, which is what appears to have been the original problem
21:31 csharp oops - history post :-/

Results for 2017-07-01

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Results for 2017-06-30

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11:17 jeff When it started failing.
11:18 Dyrcona Last week? :)
11:18 Dyrcona I saw a similar but different failure late last week, at least.
11:19 * Dyrcona thinks the test is busted 'cause the code works. :)
11:19 berick well the code is loading more stuff per page, dependencies are more likely to exist
11:19 jeff berick: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2017-06-23#i_312023
11:20 jeff berick: maybe it's not the same failure today. i should have looked first.
15:51 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1672421-Fix for Catalog record Holds view grid not refreshing - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=00faa72>
16:03 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1677000 - webstaff Adds a 'has-notes visual indicator' for patrons with notes. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ed5127e>
16:03 Dyrcona My wifi has become unreliable, so I'm signing out.
16:05 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1697754 - WebStaff make receipt on payment sticky - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=62e4bb2>
16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:36 kmlussier Yay!
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17:39 gmcharlt https://evergreen-ils.org/everg​reen-3-0-development-update-12/

Results for 2017-06-29

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:24 jeff alas, we also don't use trac, so some of the comments in that bug lack context.
10:26 csharp looks like tsbere's fix would solve the original problem though
10:27 csharp it disables gzip for conify stuff, which is what appears to have been the original problem
10:28 jeff but since many installations run with mod_deflate disabled thanks to the pre-req makefiles, the existing fix might not be as widely tested as we might hope. :-) similar to what dbs pointed out in comment 10 on that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/652343/comments/10
10:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 652343 in Evergreen 2.1 "use of mod_deflate can break XMLENT" [Undecided,Fix released]
10:28 csharp right - saw that
11:10 jeff a2dismod gained the feature of warning on "essential" modules back in 2014. the logic seems to be "we enables these by default and permit packages to use config directives from these modules without them being wrapped in an IfModule"
15:56 mmorgan Freddy_Enrique: You could, but would need to click on the link to see the image.
15:58 Freddy_Enrique oh...... I thought I could make it appear on the TPAC :(
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16:41 kmlussier @quote [random]
16:41 pinesol_green kmlussier: Error: The command "random" is available in the LoveHate and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random".
16:41 kmlussier @quote random
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16:50 * cesardv scratches his head
16:51 kmlussier cesardv: Yes, those are definitely ones that should be more clearly defined. pullrequest, needstest, signedoff, needsrepatch, needsreleasenote.
16:51 cesardv kmlussier: for me the pullsrequest tag didn't assume that the code had been "tested"
16:51 kmlussier There has been an ongoing to-do item on the web team's list to create a page that better explains our use of Launchpad.
16:52 kmlussier Speaking of the web team, I think I forgot to schedule a meeting.
16:52 Freddy_Enrique Guys, when I want to create a Record a couple of fields appear to be filed (until 650). I just checked the concerto record examples and have more fields than I was given.
16:54 Freddy_Enrique Can i modify the template which contains the marc fields?
16:54 Freddy_Enrique is it possible?
16:55 cesardv kmlussier: or we can get rid of launchpad all together :)
16:56 kmlussier cesardv: Yeah, now that you mention it, I don't know if I want to invest time into a LP doc page if we really are planning to leave it soon.
16:57 kmlussier cesardv: But for now, I think the important thing to know is that when you're code is ready for testing, slap on that pullrequest tag. If more work is needed, the reviewer will probably let you know with a comment at the same time they add a needstest, needsrepatch or needsreleasenote tag.
16:57 kmlussier But those last three tags are generally added when somebody notices there is something missing from your code.
16:58 mmorgan Freddy_Enrique: Yes, this should help explain how: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.ph​p?id=evergreen-admin:customization:cat
16:58 cesardv kmlussier: got it, thanks!
16:59 Freddy_Enrique wow
16:59 Freddy_Enrique thanks!
16:59 kmlussier cesardv: Also, needs test will be used if the reviewer thinks a test as required according to the QA guidelines at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=dev:contributing:qa
16:59 Freddy_Enrique mmorgan++
17:02 * kmlussier has fun clearing out serials wishlist items from the MassLNC ideas site based on improvements coming with the web client.
17:03 Freddy_Enrique wait....I thought I added an Image, why does this chart keep showing? : https://snag.gy/vmOWZV.jpg

Results for 2017-06-28

04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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14:17 bshum I think if you don't pass that argument for the next client you build, you could end an update line
14:17 bshum Or I have done that by accident before..
14:17 * bshum whistles innocently
14:18 bos20k So, if you are running a client that is pointing at production.domain.com, it will only ever look there.  Even if you try to log in to testing.domain.com it will not see the updates sitting on testing.domain.com?
14:18 Dyrcona It's set at configure time. --with-autoupdates-host=
14:18 bshum Right, you would need to build a different client to point at auto-updates elsewhere I would think.
14:18 Dyrcona Yes, that is my understanding.
14:19 bos20k Ok, just want to make sure that was correct.
14:19 jeffdavis The autoupdate hostname is saved in the defaults/preferences/autoupdate.js file in your copy of the client, so you can edit that for testing purposes too.
14:19 bos20k Otherwise I'm doing something wrong on my testing setup since the production client doesn't want to update from the testing server.
14:19 bshum Yeah, but... the files on the server side have to be able to upgrade from X to Y version.  So that sounds messy to me jeffdavis
14:20 bshum I mean you could copy production XUL and let the test server build on top of it
14:20 bshum But yuck
14:20 Dyrcona I always build custom clients for testing, often with a different app name to store preferences in a different place.
14:20 jeffdavis That's what we do during pre-upgrade testing.
14:20 Dyrcona just use the web staff client? :)
14:20 bos20k :) Soon enough...
14:21 bos20k Thanks everyone
14:21 Dyrcona bos20k: you know about the manualupdates.html page, right?
14:22 bos20k Dyrcona: yes, I was just trying to test the auto update stuff.  Will do it a different way that should work.
14:22 Dyrcona OK.
14:22 Dyrcona In my experience auto updates work on Windows, but not Linux.
14:22 jeffdavis ^ To be clear, "that's what we do" = copy existing updates from production to our upgrade testing server, build the client on the test server with autoupdate_host set to our production URL, manually edit the autoupdate.js file to point at the test server for testing purposes, and copy the new updates from the test server back to production during the upgrade proper.
14:23 jeffdavis Cumbersome, but works for us. (And yeah, web client will be nice!)
14:23 bshum jeffdavis: That makes more sense to me.  I didn't think diverging prod / test without copying something would work cleanly
14:23 bshum jeffdavis++ # satisfying my curiousity :D
14:24 Dyrcona I'd set the autoupdate host on the testing server at configure time and save a step or two.
14:24 jeffdavis Dyrcona: well, we want to test the actual client that we make available to our libraries, and we want that client to have the production autoupdate_host built-in.
14:25 Dyrcona But, I also would build everything fresh again on production proper. :)
14:25 jeffdavis We have libraries that want the new client available to install several weeks in advance of the upgrade.
14:26 jeffdavis Building on prod would be preferable for me, but not possible in that case, alas. :)
14:26 Dyrcona See, I'd just tell them No, but I can be a jerk like that. :)
14:27 Dyrcona j/k
14:27 bshum I think ever since like 2.7, I stopped paying attention to XUL stuff, since it's basically been frozen
14:27 bshum All that extra testing sounds boring when nothing is supposed to be different :)
14:28 bshum But yay, testing
15:13 bos20k I changed the hostname in autoupdate.js but it still says there is no update...
15:14 jeffdavis Does your test server have a valid SSL certificate?
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15:15 bos20k jeffdavis: yes, it does
15:15 bos20k I also tried changing https:// to http:// in autoupdate.js but that didn't make a difference either.
15:28 Dyrcona bos20k: You can always do make updates-client again to be sure.
15:28 bshum I wonder if it does matter what you name the thing
15:29 bos20k Dyrcona: That has been done many times.
15:29 bshum https://developer.mozilla.org/en​-US/docs/Toolkit_version_format gets linked to from old https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id​=mozilla-devel:deploying_automatic_updates
15:30 bshum and that talks about version numbering
15:30 bshum Maybe it doesn't think biblio_2_12 is newer ?
15:30 * bshum hasn't really tested
15:31 bshum I mean I haven't tested words ahead of the numbers
15:31 bshum The doc seems to say numbers, then letters
15:31 bshum 2.2.0mvlc.0 from the wiki
15:31 bshum I'm really just spitballing and guessing; I don't know
15:32 bos20k Hmmm, well, the default name is rel_2_12_3  I will try that next.  If that doesn't work I will try just 2_12_3
15:33 bos20k Or maybe even 2.12_3...
15:34 Dyrcona bos20k: The stamp id is not the version number. I skip stamp id and specify STAFF_CLIENT_VERSION when building.
15:35 Dyrcona I'd have to check again how the version is determined from the STAMP_ID.
15:36 Dyrcona bos20k: Probably.
15:36 Dyrcona I believe the version needs to begin with digits or it gets confused, and use dots, not underscores for best results.
15:39 bos20k Yup, don't mess with STAFF_CLIENT_STAMP_ID...  It offers to update now.  Now to clean up my mess and test the procedure again.
15:40 bos20k Thanks again!
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17:29 cesardv random fact: apparently mongoDB built a CI server called Evergreen https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/EVG
17:37 berick huh, this is the first time i've made the connection of "ever green" to "always good/OK/GO" -- i'm guessing that was the motivation for the name.
17:38 berick here I was just thinking about trees
17:39 cesardv berick: they do have a green basil type of "leaf" as their logo
17:40 berick cesardv: indeed, matching the color of the 'success' blocks on their test coverage grids
17:40 berick (presumably, looks close)
17:40 cesardv berick: yep definitely could be
17:42 rhamby cesardv: our trademark requires they enter enter the realm of library services for infringment ... once they do though ... POW ZOOM TO THE MOON!
17:43 phasefx unless we were Apple or somebody huge, then they'd sue or at least send nasty letters no matter what the domain :)

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10:13 Dyrcona Plus, it's easier to cherry-pick all of the commits and sign them all at once. :)
10:14 Dyrcona I should see the fifth element.
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10:15 frank___ Hi all, I am still trying to upgrade from 2.8.4 to 2.12.3, (from one sorver to another too), all the migration is fine, but when I test creating a marc record something weird hapends, for example, If I create/import a new record with this "©" character, it is saved in the database with an strange character "�", but if I re-open the same marc record register, and replace the character with the correct one it is saved correctl
10:16 bshum Dyrcona: WHAT?  You haven't seen the Fifth Element?!
10:16 Dyrcona No, I have not, just bits and pieces.
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10:30 Dyrcona You could try that and see if it works better with a new record.
10:30 frank___ ok, let me try
10:33 Dyrcona phasefx++ gmcharlt++
10:35 abneiman Dyrcona++ for 1208875 test -- will make lots of people happy!
10:51 dbs frank___: that sounds very familiar, I think we fought a similar battle when we upgraded to 2.9 or 2.10 (lots of French in use here)... I'll try to look at my notes about that
10:52 dbs frank___: but check first to be 100% sure that your MARC record templates are correctly saved in UTF8 encoding
10:52 dbs (our battle had more to do with MARC record copy catalogying from Z39.50 I think)
16:12 * dbs does not enjoy reliving last September
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16:35 frank___ excellent

Results for 2017-06-26

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13:19 jonadab Ah.  I was thinking more deletions than additions usually means the code got easier to maintain.
13:20 Dyrcona Well, it did, since these files are separate from the others.
13:20 Dyrcona Most of these are one shots, too.
13:43 jeff has anyone here written tests (pgtap or other) for circ policies?
13:44 jeff "if i check this item out to this patron it should go out for this long / with this rule? even if you were just testing circ matrix matchpoints exclusively to start...
13:45 Dyrcona No, but I have used the database functions to check that certain rules are working as expected.
13:47 jeff Dyrcona: for your syrup install(s), are staff logging into syrup with their evergreen credentials, or are you setting a password for each syrup-using staff member in syrup itself?
13:47 Dyrcona jeff: I think they're using their evergreen credentials, but I wasn't here for the initial setup.
13:47 JBoyer I don't know if I understand databases anymore. I take a query with 7 inner joins and 12 outer, add *9 more* outer joins and exec time goes from 184 seconds to 41. Consistently (+- a couple seconds; it's not caching that helps).
13:48 Dyrcona JBoyer: The magic of indexes.... :)
13:48 JBoyer jeff, I haven't written circ policy tests, but it seems like it would take significant setup to actually test properly.
13:49 jeff JBoyer: could be that one or all of the additional joins are forcing the planner to make a decision it wouldn't normally make -- and it ends up being a better decision after all!
13:49 JBoyer I suppose I should throw a couple EXPLAINs at it, that should make for some interesting reading...
13:50 JBoyer jeff, Oh, re: policy testing, are you thinking just some tests that you can run against your own real data to make sure things work the way you expect?
13:50 jeff JBoyer: right.
13:50 Dyrcona I'm looking through some of my old stuff to see what I've got.
13:51 JBoyer That does sound interesting.
13:52 JBoyer Dyrcona, Sure, but it has a built in reminder to update the check to reflect the new policy. ;)
13:52 Dyrcona heh
13:53 Dyrcona IIRC, I mostly ran stuff in the database with the find_circ_matrix_matchpoint and related functions.
13:56 jeff and for the exhaustive test, you just join actor.usr with asset.copy and actor.org_unit...
13:59 Dyrcona heh
13:59 Dyrcona Well, you basically need some representative transactions where you know what the outcome should be ahead of time....but you knew that.
13:59 * jeff nods
16:25 Dyrcona Oh. I think I may have copied the wrong apache2.conf for websockets.
16:26 Dyrcona Looks like I got the Apache 2.2 version and this host is running apache 2.4.
16:29 Dyrcona Yeap.
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17:03 frank_guel Hi all, I am still trying to upgrade from 2.8.4 to 2.12.3, (from one sorver to another too), all the migration is fine, but when I test creating a marc record something weird hapends, for example, If I create/import a new record with this "©" character, it is saved in the database with an strange character "�", but if I re-open the same marc record register, and replace the character with the correct one it is saved correc
17:04 frank_guel I tested in two diferent server and is the same,
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09:59 Dyrcona Yeap, grunt all blows up on me again on a fresh install on Ubuntu Xenial. This time I'm installing rel_2_12 with no customizations.
10:02 Dyrcona I can try again with a fresh Debian 8.
10:02 JBoyer Dyrcona, Not that I think this is a good thing to do full time, but if you just do a grunt build does it work? (i.e. skipping the test)
10:02 Dyrcona I am installing the developer prereqs and not building node from source.
10:02 Dyrcona JBoyer: I'll try that. It does look like a test that's failing.
10:03 csharp npm feels fragile to me - kinda like ruby gems
10:03 Dyrcona The build "succeeds" with this message from cssmin:combine :
10:03 Dyrcona >> Destination not written because minified CSS was empty.
10:04 csharp or even CPAN, though that's been more consistently stable than I've seen the other two be
10:04 Dyrcona csharp: Node feels fragile to me, not just npm, worse than ruby gems.
10:04 JBoyer I think the last time I was having issues with grunt test it was something of ours, but it's been a minute.
10:05 Dyrcona I get that same reference error from yesterday.
10:08 Dyrcona Hmm... Something isn't getting loaded in the tests, I assum.
10:08 Dyrcona Assume, even.
10:09 JBoyer It's ok, dropping the e in Assumr would be hipster, but dropping the e from Assum is tres Unix.
10:09 Dyrcona It's complaining about the angular.module() line at the top of services/core.js.
11:03 Dyrcona It might. I don't remember.
11:04 berick Bmagic: a copy does not have to pass action.hold_request_permit_test to appear in the hold_copy_map.
11:04 Bmagic i see
11:05 berick only directly targeted (or op-captured) copies have to pass the test
11:06 Bmagic I think we are getting warm
11:06 Bmagic mmorgan: no penalties
11:11 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1653998 webstaff redirect to login page - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=518023b>
15:33 jeffdavis If you have older records with old-style Overdrive URIs you don't need the 037.
15:33 hbrennan We have the option of importing the MARC Express records to get caught up, and I haven't looked closely at them yet
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16:40 Dyrcona And, just like that: 92,811 lines of code written...
16:40 Dyrcona emacs++
16:41 * berick chuckles
16:42 * Dyrcona just mangled a spreadsheet into a ridiculous number of SQL inserts. :)
16:43 Dyrcona About 5 lines for each insert.
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16:50 jeff live test failure does not at first glance appear to be a transient one, nor does it seem to be what Dyrcona ran into recently. commit 518023b might need some followup.
16:50 pinesol_green jeff: [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1653998 webstaff redirect to login page - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=518023b>
16:50 jeff "Unknown provider: $routeProvider"
16:56 Dyrcona Ah.. this just went in this afternoon.

Results for 2017-06-22

01:57 * bshum will look at it more tomorrow
02:01 jeffdavis bshum++
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07:28 csharp 
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10:26 bshum So it looks like there are three PO templates that are failing to import
10:26 bshum Two of them appear to be tests
10:27 bshum build/i18n/tests/data/sql2pot.pot
10:27 bshum and build/i18n/tests/data/testidl.pot
10:27 bshum Both of them are dying cause of a missing end qoute on line 6 where the timestamp should be, I guess.
10:28 bshum I'm not really sure we should worry about these, given that they appear to be really ancient test files for PO Templates, but maybe we should either fix the line, or get rid of the file altogether if they no longer serve a purpose.
10:29 bshum The other one that appears to be broken is build/i18n/po/multiclass_search_help.​html/multiclass_search_help.html.pot
10:29 bshum Which seems to be pulling the entire HTML in, instead of finding any specific strings
10:29 bshum And it's choking cause it's expecting a PO template, not raw HTML
10:31 bshum Since multiclass_search_help.html is part of the XUL server files, I'm not sure if we shouldn't also deprecate that and remove the offending POT and POs that can't be translated anyways
10:35 Dyrcona I'm still working on setting up Syrup on an alternate host, and I really have no idea what I'm doing. The README is really short on details and seems to assume that you know Django and otherwise know what you're doing.
10:35 Dyrcona Do I just have to change the settings in localsettings.py and it will just work? For some reason, I doubt that.
10:36 jeff yep! my experience was similar, though possibly with an AM/PM inversion!
10:42 Dyrcona So, I have to run the manage.py script in each instance... OK.
10:43 Dyrcona The vm has a non-routing IP address. It's only visible at central site or via vpn.
10:44 jeff assuming you're starting with Django 1.4.x, all of the top-level DATABASE_* settings in local_settings.py.example should be commented out, and you should use the example DATABASES= hash to set the various settings.
10:44 dbs bshum: I think the POT tests are still useful. Looks like there is a small delta required for one or two of the tests to still pass.
10:44 bshum dbs: Yeah I was just wondering if we run them as part of the nightly test
10:44 jeff under DATABASES[default], i set ENGINE, NAME, USER, PASSWORD, HOST, and PORT
10:45 Dyrcona jeff: Yes. I've copied everything from production and just modified the values.
10:45 bshum dbs: Well, daily I guess.
10:45 jeff for postgres, i used 'ENGINE': 'django.db.backends.postgresql_psycopg2'
10:45 Dyrcona jeff: ditto. :)
10:45 bshum I kind of wish there was a way of excluding the tests from going to LP translations though.
10:45 jeff Dyrcona: ah! then you're at least starting from a working install, which is possibly better off than starting from scratch!
10:45 Dyrcona Could be. :)
10:46 Dyrcona I'm changing the db and the evergreen instance that it talks to.
10:48 dbs bshum: might have been under buildbot? doubt it for the live reporter though
10:48 bshum dbs: That's kind of what I figured
10:49 dbs bshum: if launchpad is purely filename-based, we could do a workaround like having the setup / teardown rename a file from blah.pot.example to blah.pot for the test, then rename it back
10:49 bshum dbs: Yeah it seems to be targeting only things with .po or .pot
10:50 dbs testIDL and testSQL just need a single space removed from their POT test file to make their tests pass
10:51 bshum Alternatively, we could create a different repo for translations right?  And only sync that stuff against master or whatnot for the files we specify to target for translation efforts
10:51 bshum Or do we want to keep everything as bound together as we can
10:51 bshum (thinking ahead to when we replace LP translations)
10:56 * bshum reads about Koha's thoughts on that in https://wiki.koha-community.org/​wiki/Git_Splitting_and_Shrinking
10:58 bshum I guess they keep their POs as part of their main code still
10:58 * bshum ponders that further
10:58 dbs user/dbs/tiny_i18n_test_fix working branch has fixes for two of the i18n tests that were failing on my Fedora 25 machine
10:58 dbs to test: cd build/i18n; python tests/testIDL.py; python tests/testSQL.py
10:59 * dbs returns to prepping for Senate meeting
11:00 bshum dbs++ # thanks
11:26 Dyrcona jeff: Should I do manage.py syncdb or manage.py migrate?
11:27 jeff syncdb in this case.
15:03 eeevil but, best to get rid of shapers on safe networks in any case
15:03 berick right, ok, bundling gets us back to multiple osrf blobs per message for tightly packed stuff
15:03 eeevil right
15:03 berick yes, agreed, i'm testing no-shapers now
15:11 Dyrcona That grunt all error didn't happen on a Debian 7 server with a similar, but not identical branch.
15:12 Dyrcona One big difference: The Debian 7 server had the staff client installed before, the Ubuntu vm is fresh.
15:17 Dyrcona Happens with rel_2_12 on that same vm. I'll build a fresh one.
15:54 berick get all the bits into the shelter!
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18:19 eeevil csharp: if you're using pgdump output (rather than pgdumpall) then I think you need to create the extensions (and set the search path, etc) before restoring.  pgdump/restore is so much more finicky than pgupgrade...
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18:23 csharp eeevil: ah - thanks - in this case I'm dumping from our 9.4 prod db into a 9.5 test db - looks from stack exchange posts that the problem is that the extension isn't created in the right order
18:24 csharp also doing parallel restore, so maybe that's a factor too
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19:29 jeff csharp: you've run into bug 1671150 which i should probably actually take a moment to work on.
19:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1671150 in Evergreen "Unqualified references in evergreen.unaccent_and_squash lead to index creation failures with pg_restore" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1671150 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)

Results for 2017-06-21

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10:56 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1677000 in Evergreen "There is no visual indicator that a patron record has notes in the Web client" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1677000 - Assigned to Jason Etheridge (phasefx)
10:58 kmlussier Actually, that's not really my question. From what I can tell, some of the commits from collab/phasefx/webstaff-bugs have been merged, but not all of them. Is that right?
10:59 * kmlussier isn't quite sure what the purpose of the collab branch is
11:07 cesardv kmlussier: phasefx can correct me if I'm wrong, but basically it's a way to make sure everyone's commits play nicely with each other, avoid merge conflicts, and for testing changes that depend on other changes, or just general testing
11:09 kmlussier Yeah, I guess I just don't understand why we do things differently for the web client than we do for other parts of the software, particularly when it comes to bug fixes. They could just be merged and backported once tested IMO.
11:10 Dyrcona The only advantage of collab branches is multiple people can commit to them.
11:10 Dyrcona That may be why it is being used.
11:11 phasefx kmlussier: feel free to remove me.  I'm not 100% on that branch either
11:15 phasefx I think the notion is that folks could cherry-pick commits into master as needed but it made things simpler to batch up changes to test over here
11:20 * gmcharlt notes that given the past practice of doing merges of big webstaff branches where there was relatively little review, at least at the individual patch level, with the bug fixes we've been moving back into a more "normal" workflow
11:22 * csharp wishes his day job gave him more bandwidth for EG dev :-/
11:22 gmcharlt the bugfix collab branch is, at root, more of an artifact of how that particular bugfixing sprint is organized on Equinox's end
14:18 Dyrcona @clone
14:18 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I see nothing, I know nothing!
14:18 Dyrcona :)
15:19 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] i18n: fix syntax for Spanish lang.dtd - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ed7ae7c>
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16:52 bshum @dessert
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12:31 kmlussier gmcharlt: Thanks! It's been on my radar.
12:36 * Dyrcona is planning to install 2.12.3 on training and update a development vm after its released.
12:36 Dyrcona I was going to try and test something today, but I think I just hosed the vm I was gonna use.
12:46 Bmagic ::whisper:: docker
12:46 csharp heh
12:48 Dyrcona ::retort:: learning curve
14:17 _adb (j/k)
14:17 _adb yes, they're delightful.
14:17 Freddy_Enrique Jajajaja
14:53 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1694696: add some unit tests for A/T helpers - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a7e3147>
14:53 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1694696 - Check for blank SMS Carriers in A/T reactor - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=697d260>
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15:07 cesardv_ hi guys, random question, has anyone considered JIRA as a possible replacement for Launchpad?
15:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1691473 Internal Apache HTTP port configuration - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c6b3d45>
16:10 Dyrcona distraction--
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10:05 Freddy_Enrique hello guys :)
10:05 bshum Freddy_Enrique: Howdy :)
10:20 csharp Dyrcona: lacked outright as far as I can tell
10:22 bshum In the article I linked, it suggested that one could add it back by installing net-tools package, which worked when I did that on my Stretch test VM
10:22 bshum But I guess I should learn the future
10:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] LP#1616980 webstaff: protect "magic statuses" when editing copies - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=05dcc80>
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15:04 berick kmlussier: i'm familiar w/ the mighty Rolo, though it's been years
15:04 berick Dyrcona: i'm removing you as assignee for bug 1373690 unless you say otherwise
15:04 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1373690 in Evergreen "Direct EDI generation for ACQ orders -- AKA kill ruby webrick" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373690 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
15:05 Dyrcona OK. I was going to test it in the last few weeks, but something else came up.
15:05 * berick nods
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17:01 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
17:04 kmlussier pinesol_green: Well that's not a nice way to end the day.
17:04 pinesol_green kmlussier: What we have here is a failure to communicate.
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17:10 berick hm, looks like a bit of syntax chrome is OK with but the test runner isn't
17:10 berick trailing comma
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17:13 berick fix -> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b5d3​5c8da1a819df6ff74f17e7a3f94ff8f8219
17:18 * gmcharlt grabs it
17:19 gmcharlt berick++
17:21 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] Remove testrunner-breaking trailing JS comma - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f91286e>

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23:17 bshum o.O
23:18 bshum "The ifconfig command has been deprecated and thus missing by default on Debian Linux, starting from Debian stretch."
23:18 * bshum rolls his eyes
23:18 bshum https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-m​issing-ifconfig-command-on-debian-linux
23:19 bshum Just in case anyone ends up testing Debian 9 now that it's been released :)

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