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Results for 2019-09-09

08:09 csharp bshum++
08:09 bshum csharp: It was a fun little thought exercise :D
08:10 csharp I like those kinds of problems too
08:10 bshum I needed the practice for pgTap test writing
08:11 bshum Probably more ways to skin the cat, but baby steps...
08:11 csharp after the second week of October, when an 11-month-long leadership program I've been doing ends, my attention will be less divided and I'll be able to get serious about EG development again :-)
08:12 bshum Fun times!  :)
08:12 bshum Okay, off to the office for more fun and games in other SQL lands...

Results for 2019-09-08

05:00 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing OpenSRF pre-requisites <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~l​ive/test.7.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,588967130-0400 -0>
05:00 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~l​ive/test.9.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,616133766-0400 -2>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running OpenSRF build tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.10.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,643261966-0400 -4>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed creating opensrf user and environment <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.12.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,670052378-0400 -6>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configuring ejabberd <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.15.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,697153810-0400 -8>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed creating jabber users <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.16.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,724083776-0400 -10>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configuring OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.17.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,751685289-0400 -12>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.18.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,778719304-0400 -14>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed stop opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.19.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,805681747-0400 -16>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.20.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,832641068-0400 -18>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed test opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.21.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,859382142-0400 -20>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configuring websockets <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.22.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,886279588-0400 -22>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed stop opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.23.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,913149142-0400 -24>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen pre-requisites <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.26.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,940167346-0400 -26>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,966866093-0400 -28>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.30.html#2019-09-08T04:45:37,993893592-0400 -30>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.31.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,021016559-0400 -32>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.32.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,048219354-0400 -34>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Change File Ownership <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.33.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,075283659-0400 -36>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Dojo <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.35.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,103904901-0400 -38>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.36.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,130485884-0400 -40>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.37.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,157130237-0400 -42>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG Action/Trigger <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.38.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,183979995-0400 -44>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,210903690-0400 -46>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.42.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,239757579-0400 -48>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.43.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,266705784-0400 -50>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running autogen.sh <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.44.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,293294847-0400 -52>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Restarting Apache - Expected 1 errors but encountered 2. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.45.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,319808447-0400 -54>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed test EG opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.46.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,346509683-0400 -56>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,373125960-0400 -58>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running settings-tester.pl <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.48.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,399692248-0400 -60>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,426314366-0400 -62>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Gathering log summary <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.50.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,453108549-0400 -64>
05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: config.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.51.html#2019-09-08T04:45:38,479855669-0400 -66>
10:44 bshum Well that seems like a Debian problem to me :)
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12:03 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: cleaning up headings in 3.4 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3f4a956>
12:04 sandbergja bshum++ #catching db errors over the weekend
15:52 bshum Hmm, so installing LWP::Protocol::https from CPAN for Ubuntu 16.04 works fine, but on 18.04 it doesn't change anything and the test still fails :(
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16:25 bshum The distro installed version from 18.04 is 6.07 also
16:25 bshum Same as the one from CPAN
16:25 csharp oh
16:25 bshum I checked the actual code bits too, and they're the same
16:26 bshum So I think it's a problem with the IO::Socket::SSL
16:26 bshum Or one of the other related perl bits
16:27 bshum And something newer in 18.04 is reacting to the bad code in a different way than on 16.04
16:29 bshum Maybe this is the right approach:  https://stackoverflow.com/question​s/47662461/how-to-accept-self-sign​ed-certificates-with-lwpuseragent
16:30 bshum Having LWP::UserAgent accept the default generated SSL cert
16:30 bshum Though, I guess the SSL cert hostname might vary from test system to system... so that could be weird.
16:30 bshum And also "localhost" wouldn't match the SSL cert
16:30 bshum Seems problematic
16:32 bshum So yeah, I'm back to my suggestion to not do the test against https since it doesn't work consistently across all the testbeds
16:32 bshum And also the more I look at the eg_vhost.conf addition where we're putting a staff login to lookup user data with and having the credentials just sitting out there, that's questionable to me too
16:32 bshum For an out of the box install that is
16:40 bshum Oh I see, the docs are in TechRef, no release notes :\
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17:18 bshum Hmm
17:23 bshum https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads​/user/bshum/lp1817645-perl-test-fixes
17:23 bshum Those two commits worked for me on Ubuntu 18.04
17:23 bshum Retesting the whole branch on fresh Ubuntu 16.04 next
17:29 r_mcauliffe Hey Guys, I'm trying to install opensrf on debian-buster. Got the install working correctly, the make file needed to adjust the libgcrypt package for buster (Happy to upload my makefile changes to git soon). Everything installed correctly, and was following the install guide on the web and came across this problem while trying to start it:
17:30 r_mcauliffe Subroutine section_pkg redefined at (eval 921) line 4 (#1)
17:30 r_mcauliffe (W redefine) You redefined a subroutine.  To suppress this warning, say
17:41 bshum Or sending an email to the general or dev mailing lists  :)
17:42 bshum I'm just a casual volunteer who's poking at things in my offtime
17:42 r_mcauliffe will do, thank you bshum !
17:44 bshum Sure thing
17:44 bshum I haven't seen rabbitmq before, but I do know that OpenSRF is pretty specialized into how it is using (or abusing) ejabberd for messaging between the various bits
18:04 bshum jeffdavis: gmcharlt: So my branch works for solving the perl livetest for basic auth api on Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04.  I have to test wider with Debian, but I don't have my cool Ansible setup for Debian finished yet to make the install simple and breezy
18:05 bshum I still have my doubts about using https for the test against localhost and ignoring the cert anyways, plus also now dumping additional pre-req stuff onto the installs that I'm not sure we will use everywhere
18:05 bshum But eh, working code wins?  :D
18:53 r_mcauliffe well rabbitmq would use erlang rather than ejabberd, but a very cut down version of it. I was just thinking if there is a product that could be usable that would suit evergreens purpose than something y'all have to maintain, might be worth looking into. But like I said VERY new to this, so my opinion counts for diddly squat lol
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23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-09-08T23:00:57,525131392-0400 -0>
23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-09-08T23:00:57,553207498-0400 -2>

Results for 2019-09-07

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09:28 csharp bshum++
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-09-07T11:00:49,903620999-0400 -0>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-09-07T11:00:49,931658935-0400 -2>
12:05 bshum Hmm
12:06 bshum So that PGTap test isn't so bad to fix.  We're missing some closing parenthesis in the tests
12:06 bshum And one of the test parameters returned a different result than the actual thing being matched
12:06 bshum I guess an Inactive patron returns "not_found" rather than "blocked"
12:07 * bshum makes a patch to toss on followup
12:07 bshum And then I'll see what this perl live test is balking at next :)
12:22 bshum Hmm
12:23 bshum That live perl test failure seems more complicated
12:23 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1817645/comments/1
12:23 pinesol Launchpad bug 1817645 in Evergreen "Configurable patron auth and retrieval" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
12:24 bshum In jeffdavis comments on the feature, they described a bug with LWP::Protocol::https that required a newer version from CPAN to resolve, 6.07 and greater
12:24 bshum Couple issues... that dependency isn't in the core Makefile.install for the various distros
12:25 bshum But also, on Ubuntu 18.04, I have the latest version of that package, and I'm still unable to get successful test results from the API test
12:25 * bshum pushes the pgtap fix patch first, and then goes to contemplate lunch
12:29 pinesol [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1817645: Fix pgtap tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1421240>
12:41 bshum So it's definitely the certificate error affecting the running of the test
12:41 bshum Changing the endpoint to http://localhost (without the https) allowed it to succeed
12:43 bshum I'd be tempted to let that be the permanent change for the purposes of the test, since the access is restricted to localhost only anyways
12:43 bshum and in a real productive environment, someone should be changing it to have a real SSL cert, have real auth user to look up data (rather than the default admin account), etc.
12:43 bshum So........... hmm, I'll ponder that
12:43 bshum While I eat my sandwich :D
13:38 jeffdavis I think the Ubuntu package for LWP::Protocol::https is installed as a dependency when you install libwww-perl, so should be available on any system running OpenSRF. It would make sense for Makefile.install to the later non-buggy version from CPAN though.
13:54 jeffdavis Switching to http doesn't feel great but it does still confirm whether the API endpoint is returning correct responses, which is the purpose of the test.
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18:27 bshum jeffdavis: I haven't read enough and finished spinning older distro VMs, but if the bug is only from those SSL checks, then switching to http for the test would resolve for everybody's tests
18:28 bshum Without needing to upgrade that package
18:28 bshum And if I've already got the latest package on 18.04 and it's still broken, that seems like there's something deeper problematic with it than just the version
18:34 bshum also systemd-- # apt.systemd.daily install is super annoying
18:39 * bshum finishes setting up fresh Ubuntu 16.04 to retest
19:41 bshum So much faster to clone virtualbox VMs once they've been compacted down in size, whee!
20:07 bshum Very interesting
20:07 bshum So, on Ubuntu 16.04, changing it to http for the test, definitely makes it work.  So that's consistent
20:08 bshum But also installing LWP::Protocol::https via CPAN and restarting apache, also lets the test proceed happily too
20:08 bshum I wonder why that's different on Ubuntu 18.04 now, hmm
21:43 bshum Reading https://github.com/libwww-perl​/LWP-Protocol-https/issues/47 and based on the source for LWP::Protocol::https, I think it's still broken
21:52 bshum Seems to me that if we're passing the value to ignore SSL cert anyways, we're already not paying attention to the security as part of the test
21:52 bshum So having it go to http instead of https seems moot
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-09-07T23:00:56,032084177-0400 -0>
23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-09-07T23:00:56,061217285-0400 -2>

Results for 2019-09-06

11:01 berick Dyrcona: you have to raise the upload size..
11:02 berick e.g.         client_max_body_size 25m;
11:02 Dyrcona nginx, I presume.
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:02 Dyrcona berick: How's Dorian treating you? My family's in the thick of it in Wilmington.
11:02 berick well, what I posted was for uploading files for import
11:02 berick not sure if that's what you meant
15:02 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1840327: add release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b577e78>
15:02 Dyrcona Ah... That will do it.
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15:27 csharp Dyrcona: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GBwpFLxP​Z79sBsP0zcXSdX-_eGm4OWnl/view?usp=sharing - the second indicator column is misaligned
15:28 csharp if I remove some of the long text in one of the fields (or reduce the zoom enough) it corrects
15:29 csharp I also played with the CSS padding in dev tools and corrected it that way too
15:30 csharp the problem didn't exist in the new ng staff catalog when I tested that on one of the "problem" records
15:30 csharp but does in the AngJS version on current-ish master
15:33 Dyrcona csharp: Maybe that's what they were trying to explain to me yesterday. I was told it happens with tags that have a second indicator.
15:34 Dyrcona I looked at the MARC edit view and not that one, let me look at the bibs they sent me again.
15:34 Dyrcona I also was not sent screen shots.
16:09 jeff Dyrcona, csharp: does this happen in the opac, or only in the web staff client?
16:09 Dyrcona Haven't checked the OPAC.
16:10 jeffdavis gmcharlt: bug 1662297 is a bugfix rather than a feature request, but the pullrequest would involve changes to the install process so may be worth a look for the 3.4 beta (you know, in all that spare time you have right now)
16:10 pinesol Launchpad bug 1662297 in Evergreen "Install directory hardcoded in web client build and tests" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662297
16:12 Dyrcona Well, my OPAC isn't returning results for tcn searches and I did not make a note of the titles, plus I'm off the clock, so not putting much more effort into it. :)
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16:30 Dyrcona And, I just got a Firefox update to install. If I remember, I'll look at that again on Monday.
17:20 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1817645: (follow-up) sync schema update script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=56bab3e>
17:20 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1817645: stamp schema update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e850739>
17:20 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1817645: add release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=46c8e3a>
17:22 gmcharlt jeffdavis: re 1662297, I'm willing to consider it for the 3.4-rc, but won't make it into the beta given the time I would need to test it properly
17:22 jeffdavis ok
17:37 * gmcharlt claims 1181
17:42 pinesol Showing latest 5 of 8 commits to Evergreen...
18:15 jeffdavis gmcharlt++
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-09-06T23:00:54,913184280-0400 -0>
23:16 bshum Oops, well that's fun.  Duplicate key constraint in the seed data
23:28 bshum Looks like some stuff snuck back in after the cleanup done in eee5c5948ca
23:29 pinesol bshum: [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1759343 Clean up data seed values - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=eee5c59>
23:31 bshum That led to the duplicate settings error
23:31 bshum Removing them again should fix things up
23:39 pinesol [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1816475: Cleanup 950.data.seed-values.sql - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5d9bc66>
23:59 bshum And much better on my test server :)
23:59 * bshum sleeps more happily now

Results for 2019-09-05

10:59 jeff ...or a logins table, and avoid updating actor.workstation on each and every login.
10:59 jeff but useful any way you spell it.
11:00 mmorgan At the very least a create date would be useful.
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:02 jeff all the metadata.
11:02 jeff create date, creating user, etc. :-)
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13:12 Dyrcona berick: PhantomJS is dead, i.e. archived, and the person who was going to take it over and modernize it, gave up.
13:13 * Dyrcona considered doing so, since it uses Qt Webkit, but no time....
13:13 Dyrcona We should find an alternative for testing JS, like headless Chromium if that really is an option.
13:13 berick Dyrcona: i agree
13:14 Dyrcona Again, I'm short on time, so.... It's easy for me to say these things. :)
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14:17 dluch dbs++
14:17 rsoulliere I will have more info about the server situation.
14:17 remingtron dbs++
14:17 dluch Then sandberja made a copy of the docs on a test page, http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org/.  Thanks, sandberja!
14:17 dluch sandbergja++
14:17 jweston dbs++
14:17 dluch Thanks, rsoulliere
14:17 remingtron sandbergja++
14:33 dluch gmcharlt++
14:33 dluch #info Documentation server needs
14:34 dluch I wasn't sure who added this one, but rsoulliere, it was you, I assume
14:34 rsoulliere At Mohawk, library access to servers required to maintain the docs is being questioned by IT. We are still negotiating with our IT overlords to regain access. Could http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org be made the live docs server since it is working? In fact, we should probably have multiple servers at a few institutions in a mirror set up for mo
14:34 rsoulliere re  reliability/redundancy going forward.
14:34 dluch Take it away!
14:37 dluch redundancy does sound like a good idea
14:37 gmcharlt rsoulliere: from the perspective of a member of the infrastructure team... we would be happy to accommodate
14:37 gmcharlt specificaly, working out a plan to put on a new docs VM on the hosting platform that GPLS and BOR are kindly continuing to donate to the project
14:37 dluch gmcharlt: I was just in the middle of typing a question about that.  Good, thanks!
14:38 gmcharlt if docs-testing becomes the new one, we'll need to plan on moving it to the new GPLS hosting anyway, but we can readily sort out such details
14:39 rsoulliere Was there any assistance you needed from me by working on the server or developing a git repo with the tools/instructions for setting up? Or was that covered?
14:39 dluch so, is that something the infrastructure team can take on to tackle?
14:40 gmcharlt yeah, in conjunction with rsoulliere (and yeah, I think we would want help and/or infodumps to make sure that the setup is suitable for the docs needs)
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21:40 dbs gmcharlt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1517298 has a working patch for Matomo, although ideally it would use OU settings instead of config.tt2
21:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1517298 in Evergreen "Catalogue should support Matomo, a privacy-sensitive alternative to Google Analytics" [Wishlist,New]
23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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Results for 2019-09-04

10:49 rhamby_ one could argue that the creation of a distinction between upper and lowercase was just a bad idea .....
10:50 Bmagic In writing as well.....
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11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.31.html#2019-09-04T11:00:52,122990657-0400 -0>
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11:16 sandbergja Hmmm... looks like I forgot to stamp the upgrade script for carousels when I pushed it yesterday
11:18 Dyrcona sandbergja: Easy enough to fix.
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11:19 sandbergja I can plan to do that later today
11:27 sandbergja And also look into the failed qa test
11:30 csharp @who failed the QA test?
11:30 pinesol jeff_ failed the QA test.
11:31 mmorgan If our usernames were normalized, we could blame jeff ;-)
11:41 csharp @blame the usernames
11:41 pinesol csharp: the usernames must eat cottage cheese!
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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Results for 2019-09-03

08:56 pinesol csharp: [evergreen|Remington Steed] LP#1721036: Add url to item tags (DB, IDL, and OPAC link) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d87ad5f>
08:56 csharp (fix for bug 1721036 )
08:56 pinesol Launchpad bug 1721036 in Evergreen "Add the ability for copy tags to be links" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721036
08:57 csharp I trusted the signoff without additional testing, and now I've learned not to do that :-/
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09:07 dbwells csharp: autogen and/or reporter IDL issue?
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11:17 Dyrcona berick: If you're around.... So, we had an incident with the load balancer this morning. And, now I've had reports of a couple of staff being logged out of Evergreen. I'm looking into it, and don't know if they're related.  Thought maybe we could followup with the email discussion in here.
11:21 * berick replied on-list for completeness sake
22:33 bshum gmcharlt: I added some thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1830749 and proposed how we might note the PG minimum version in the release notes when they are compiled. I wasn't sure how best to include high level content like that based on the current design
22:33 pinesol Launchpad bug 1830749 in Evergreen "increase minimum version of PostgreSQL for Evergreen 3.4" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
22:33 bshum Maybe something to ponder for next release notes automated building.
22:41 pinesol Showing latest 5 of 17 commits to Evergreen...
22:41 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1832897 Carousel local admin link repair - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b81a489>
22:41 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1832897: Marking some carousel fields required in the IDL - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c33fce5>
22:41 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP1832897: Belt-and-suspenders for making sure max_items is set - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=94fb41c>
22:41 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP1832897: Avoid query errors related to optional carousel filters - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=dc8457e>
22:41 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1832897: One more carousel local admin link repair - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6631e78>
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09:11 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1790169: ensure that the sort priority actually gets saved - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1ea0735>
09:11 pinesol [evergreen|Jason Etheridge] lp1790169 call compileSort after closing showColumnDialog - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=001edcb>
09:51 pinesol [evergreen|Remington Steed] LP#1721036: Add url to item tags (DB, IDL, and OPAC link) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d87ad5f>
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Results for 2019-08-30

09:29 pinesol Launchpad bug 1840669 in Evergreen 3.3 "Aging Circulations Removes Auto-Renewal Information" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840669
09:30 Dyrcona Also, if you feel like bumping the importance of Lp 1835577 that would be fine with me. I'm not sure how important it is, since I don't do reports, myself.
09:30 pinesol Launchpad bug 1835577 in Evergreen 3.3 "Combined Aged and Active Circulations Report Source not Exposed to Auto-Renewal Fields" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835577
09:33 Dyrcona I also have a branch for Lp 1839002 but haven't added it to the bug, yet, because we haven't tested it. I plan to install it on training at the end of the day today.
09:33 pinesol Launchpad bug 1839002 in Evergreen "auto_renewal field stored as NULL/TRUE. Should be FALSE/TRUE" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1839002 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
09:33 Dyrcona It takes a while to update the existing fields.
09:34 Dyrcona I will likely have something for Lp 1835085 by lunch time.
10:54 Dyrcona What does everything about removing an api in a bug fix. I think this api (open-ils.circ.renew.auto) was added as a result of misunderstanding.  The feature could easily have been implemented with an auto_renewal flag, the same way that sip_renewal and opac_renewal work.
11:02 * Dyrcona "deprecates" it....
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13:16 Dyrcona gsams: To be clear, auto renewal and OPAC renewal are doing the same thing, so changing the setting for the OPAC renewals affects auto renewals. I was mildly surprised when I saw that in the code this morning, but none of my patches change that behavior.
13:22 * mmorgan realizes she misspoke earlier regarding "all renewals". Should have read *opac* renewals
13:25 * Dyrcona has a branch for that ready, too, but will wait to push it until after we've tested it. May be typos, etc.
13:26 Dyrcona By "push it" I mean to the working repo.
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Results for 2019-08-29

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10:54 miker mmorgan: they were flushed (all but local storage, for the ws values)
10:55 miker bah, same result in firefox
10:55 Bmagic Everyone knows the real test results come from IE
10:56 miker IE 5, to be exact
10:56 Bmagic "It ain't broke if it works in Internet Explorer"
10:59 Bmagic I installed Windows 95 on a VM recently. Hilarious. IE 1.0
10:59 Dyrcona Pfft... It's just plain broken.
11:00 Bmagic The days when you had to "install" TCP/IP
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-08-29T11:00:49,587271975-0400 -0>
11:04 Dyrcona Eh, well, the Internet was "new..."
11:04 gmcharlt ^ bah, humbug
11:04 gmcharlt er, ^^^
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11:53 Bmagic well, action.hold_request_permit_test still results in a failure "config.rule_age_hold_protect.prox" - It doesn't seem that this code consults the proximity adjustment table
11:54 Bmagic The hold rule that it choses is perfect. It's the one I created to specifically allow the two systems to lend to eachother. And it's an Allow rule. Even though it's an allow rule, the rest of the permit test code "IF hold_transit_prox > age_protect_object.prox THEN"
11:56 Dyrcona hold_transit_prox should be calculated using proximity adjustments. If not, that's a bug.
11:56 Dyrcona Could be your adjustment is incorrect.
11:57 Bmagic I'm using the system to adjust to the other system. Maybe I need to install adjustment rows for each combo of branches?
12:14 Dyrcona Maybe. I'd have to look at the script again.
12:15 Bmagic yeah, -u
12:15 Bmagic Refreshing proximity of org units;Successfully updated the organization proximity
12:18 Bmagic yeah, as I suspected, didn't change the outcome of the permit test
12:18 Dyrcona All right, my bad for giving you the wrong option...
12:19 Bmagic at this point, I'm 99% sure that it doesn't take into account the adjustments
12:19 Dyrcona Well, you could open a bug or you can tell the libraries that they can't share age protected items with each other.
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Results for 2019-08-28

09:28 abneiman sandbergja++ # docs generation
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15:07 mmorgan http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.2/_ab​solute_and_relative_adjustments.html
15:08 Dyrcona Unless, I misunderstand your situation, which is quite likely.
15:09 Bmagic mmorgan: that's what I was thinking but it doesn't seem that the hold permit test consults that. There are really two things: placing a hold, and targeting the hold. The hold targeter consults the proximity but not action.find_hold_matrix_matchpoint(
15:09 csharp Bmagic: we have a situation that's marginally similar - two separate systems that share A/V item holds
15:10 csharp they don't share age-protected things, though
15:10 * csharp looks at the hold policies
15:25 Dyrcona Proximity adjustment is what you want because age hold protect rules have a proximity.
15:25 Dyrcona Make them closer by using a smaller value.
15:25 Bmagic yep! Exactly!
15:26 csharp so this is why we tend to be pretty vague when libraries request unusual situations - we always tell them we'll have to test and make sure whatever they're asking works before they just assume it - we've had lots of those situations over the years
15:26 Bmagic so, if the hold matrix brought that into the equation, we should be gold
15:27 csharp and sometimes we can kill wild hare ideas with the dreaded "that would require development"
15:27 csharp DUM DUM DUMMMM
17:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1825851 Print template failure warnings - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=339b462>
17:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1825851 Print template admin misc. repairs/improvements - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3372aa2>
17:40 berick gmcharlt++
17:41 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1825851: stamp schema update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1c24940>
17:42 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Risher] lp1836808 add cancel button to merge edit - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c7d8b25>
17:42 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1836808: add release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5e43045>
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Results for 2019-08-27

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09:29 Dyrcona I *might* have hit this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubun​tu/+source/ipvsadm/+bug/1028585 but the actual error message in the log is different.
09:29 pinesol Launchpad bug 1028585 in ipvsadm (Ubuntu) "Memory allocation problem with ipvsadm" [High,Confirmed]
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14:38 jeffdavis jinx!
14:38 bshum To keep them to only apply in, yeah
14:38 bshum But I don't know if that'll break other things
14:38 jeffdavis that's what test servers are for :)
14:38 bshum Or what it'll do for the embedded catalog search for web client either
14:39 bshum For searching bib records, etc.
14:39 bshum But yes, you might be on the right track
14:39 bshum I'm not sure how EGCatLoader perl loads that stuff though for locale
14:40 bshum Or rather, it's been too long since I stared meaningfully at any of this stuff to know if I'm saying anything right anymore :\
14:40 bshum Hope the test goes well
14:41 nfBurton Anyone have experience with Yaz & z39.50?
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14:42 Bmagic nfBurton: sure
14:48 jeffdavis or whatever
14:49 nfBurton $ yaz-client http://live.nflibrary.ca/opac/extras/sru
14:49 nfBurton This worked fine
14:50 Dyrcona nfBurton: You want to actually run a query and you can use a regular browser to test it or curl, as jeffdavis suggested.
14:51 Dyrcona https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=evergreen-admin:sru_and_z39.50 might help.
14:54 rjackson_isl nfBurton: any chance that the daemons for simple2zoom aren't running currently?
14:54 rjackson_isl ps -aux|grep simple2zoom|wc -l
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11:58 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1834662: Add date-related components to Angular client. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d95ab87>
11:58 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1834662 Allow date format defaults to persist. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5f66a61>
11:58 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1834662: Various fixes to the datetime select - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0dc5645>
11:58 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1834662: Fix incorrect locale fallback - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fe0c1ee>
11:58 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1834662 Minor lingering lint repair - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9f4e3b5>
12:00 berick dbs: re: web staff date formats, what locale are your browsers set to?
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12:37 berick or the bug
12:37 * Dyrcona was just looking through the webkit bug tracker and apparently the UI for input date and time is broken...
12:38 Dyrcona I'm not sure if that affects only Safari or all Webkit-based browsers. Otherwise, I'd recommend we do this in the OPAC, too.
12:42 * Dyrcona considers building a webkit browser other than phantomjs to test it.
12:50 Dyrcona IDK. I hope my comment is coherent enough.
12:54 Dyrcona This is a case of Safari on iOS does something that Safari on Mac OS doesn't. It's usually the other way 'round.
13:37 dbs berick: browser language preference (set in Firefox preferences) is "English (Canadian)", but locale (via navigator.languages) shows up as en-US.
16:31 Bmagic just making sure I wasn't missing anything or misunderstanding the system
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16:37 jeffdavis mmorgan++ # triaging/targeting all those bugs
16:39 mmorgan Thought I would do something useful while waiting for something to load :)
16:40 mmorgan Also found a few I want to test!
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19:46 Dyrcona Bmagic: You might want something like the solution to bug 1170794 for rental items. Perhaps an ou setting to not change rental fees again on renewal?
19:47 pinesol Launchpad bug 1170794 in Evergreen "Deposit charged again on renewal of deposit item" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170794
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05:31 dbs jeffdavis: yes, we have US-style dates in the web staff client. Would much prefer ISO dates but...
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Results for 2019-08-23

10:09 jeff websocketd++
10:57 mdriscoll gmcharlt: thanks!
10:59 mdriscoll Will look at websocketd
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Results for 2019-08-22

10:58 jeff but yes, I don't think anywhere in this conversation we've been suggesting making the PIN take the place of a password when logging into Evergreen as a patron.
11:00 jeff another challenge is "library PIN or password" as a label on some vendor sites.
11:00 JBoyer jeff, absolutely. But there is some value in making sure it's clear in the logs that no one discussing it would ever want it to work that way. I would imagine the first naive attempt to implement it would. "AND (pwd = ... OR pin =... )"
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11:01 Dyrcona I also imagine there will be some confusion among staff and patrons when such a feature is rolled out.
11:04 Dyrcona I imagine we should call it "Remote Access PIN" or something like that. I don't know what would make the most sense to the most people. Maybe "Third Party PIN"?
11:04 Dyrcona Now, we just have to code it up and write release notes! :P
13:14 pinesol Launchpad bug 1779467 in Evergreen "Enhance Mark Item Discard/Weed Functionality" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779467
13:15 Dyrcona :)
13:15 jeff mmorgan++ thanks
13:15 Dyrcona jeff: I don't think it changes anything significant in the backend code. I reorganized it a little, but the functionality is the same. I deliberately tested it to make sure.
13:16 Dyrcona I don't recall if I tested with a damaged fee, though it did charge the price of the item when the settings were correct.
13:17 Dyrcona Others can answer for their testing of it. :)
13:18 jeff I wasn't too concerned with regression, just didn't realize that that bug had evolved beyond its title (though it was my first guess when you mentioned "recently made some changes to the mark items functionality"), and I'm curious to see if it interacts with some changes we've been using for Missing Pieces.
13:18 Dyrcona Ah, cool.
13:18 jeff There are things in Missing Pieces that I'd like to rip out, but I suspect would need to be placed behind an OU setting or flag.
13:39 jeff i don't remember without looking at docs what we did for "we're only going to charge them for a missing disc replacement fee, not the full price" -- i think it was "do that before the system bills full price". pretty sure we didn't suggest that the item price be adjusted down to the partial amount. that would have been silly of us.
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14:24 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1796945 Reporter cloning and creation fixes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6cdbb3d>
14:24 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1796945 Match new path_label/alias standard - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=53e4550>
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16:58 pinesol [evergreen|Andrea Buntz Neiman] docs: error correction to 3.1.14 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=43413aa>
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17:16 pinesol [evergreen|April Durrence] Docs: add info about merge tracking - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f4ac25f>
17:26 pinesol [evergreen|dluchenbill] Docs: add checkin trigger holds and cancel transit - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9bf8d67>
17:28 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 3.1.14 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3d5b1d0>
17:28 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 3.2.8 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fabf404>
17:28 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 3.3.3 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1eaf0e3>
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17:46 pinesol [evergreen|Derek C. Zoladz] Docs: LP #1803415: Location of MARC Editor 'Delete' Button - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7223710>
17:46 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: adding alt text to MARC Editor chapter images - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5489249>
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13:18 rhamby hmmm I haven't tested it but I wonder if it a receipt template would take a base64 encoded image within the template and render it.  in theory I would think it would ...
13:23 Dyrcona Probably.
13:23 JBoyer rhamby, that should work, I think all of the browsers that are supported work with data urls.
13:23 rhamby it's mostly idle pondering a "what if" though I can imagine cases where it's useful, though also some where it would be ...undesirable
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17:29 berick but I'd be surprised if they didn't show a found warning / problem give how verbose ng build usually is
17:29 berick *given
17:34 sandbergja berick++ # https://bugs.launchpad.net/ever​green/+bug/1834662/comments/12
17:34 pinesol Launchpad bug 1834662 in Evergreen "Add date-time-select and date-range-select to Angular client" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
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Results for 2019-08-19

10:57 gsams JBoyer: 1081 appears to be applied.
10:59 JBoyer in psql, does \d+ asset.copy_tag_copy_map  give you 1 trigger or two?
10:59 JBoyer (Or, does it list DELETE in the AFTER list)
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11:08 gsams JBoyer: Two triggers, second trigger has DELETE in the AFTER list where the first does not.  The first trigger is inherit_asset_copy_tag_copy_map_copy_fkey and the second is inherit_copy_tag_copy_map_copy_fkey
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12:44 gsams JBoyer++ #I will definitely be doing that soon.
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14:26 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Risher] lp1739292 merge UI displays record summary - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e689c8c>
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Results for 2019-08-18

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Results for 2019-08-16

10:53 berick phasefx: cool, thanks for the heads up
10:53 phasefx welcome
10:53 berick that'll be a useful interface too
10:55 phasefx berick: the one regret I have is that I put it at the top level in the directory hierarchy, but I'm kind of afraid to go moving it after it's already been tested
10:56 berick meh, it would be easy to move.  certainly makes more sense under circ
10:56 phasefx I was thinking under admin/holds/ :D  but circ would work too
10:56 berick oh
11:00 berick i'm really liking it too
11:00 phasefx particular .ts and .html being adjacent to each other :D
11:00 berick oh yeah
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11:16 JBoyer dbwells++
11:16 JBoyer I didn't realize that's how it worked. Will load very soon for some testing today,
11:17 JBoyer (didn't realize -> the two-step thing)
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11:26 csharp dbwells++ # will also test as soon as I get a chance
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09:05 pinesol [evergreen|Remington Steed] LP#1785061: Split filter value on comma for "in list" and the like - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=758cdcf>
09:05 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1785061: move the filter value munging to the template service - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9e939ca>
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10:13 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1839548 Angular catalog holds patron barcode link - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3433d29>
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12:09 csharp about to jump into a meeting, but I've been looking at bug 1796945 and am interested in discussing it so dbwells 's work can make it into 3.4 (if that's what we decide)
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12:09 pinesol Launchpad bug 1796945 in Evergreen 3.3 "Report templates cloned from those created on XUL client causing error or producing different results" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1796945
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12:10 csharp I'm wondering if dbwells 's branch can be signed off on so we get its improvements and the issues that JBoyer and Tina found can be split off into a separate bug to be addressed later?
12:10 csharp (note that I've done zero testing so far - just trying to figure out a sensible approach)
12:11 csharp this also assumes that Tina's and JBoyer 's issues are not *caused* by dbwells 's branch (which is not obvious to me one way or the other at this point)
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12:12 csharp @eightball is this when I finally make the time and effort investment to learn the reporter's backend?
12:12 pinesol csharp: I doubt it very much.
12:13 JBoyer csharp, dbwells's branch helps re-align the generated SQL for xul and web reports, but the issues that pop up are there already, just hidden because you can't reliably translate reports without that branch.
12:14 csharp oh, I see - so that would be an argument in favor of spinning the newly-found issues into their own bug
12:14 JBoyer So his branch is a very important step along the way, but it doesn't really help much without fixing the underlying issue because while you can in fact clone reports now, you still can't actually edit them without things breaking.
12:15 csharp oh ok - again, I haven't tested the branch at all yet
12:15 * dbwells tries to catch up on that bug
12:15 JBoyer I've looked >< this much into how that could potentially be mitigated, but it's going to be a lot of uphill work.
12:15 csharp yeah
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11:18 Bmagic Isn't there still and oustanding issue with Evergreen running on 18.04?
11:53 bshum Yeah, right now the bionic makefile uses the PG community apt source and then grabs PG 9.6 for install
11:53 bshum Bionic does have PG 10 out of the box
11:53 Bmagic Anyone here running 18.04 on the database server in production?
11:55 bshum There was some bug with PG10 for awhile, but we fixed those functions during the last conference I think.  Though we still need to test other functions out
11:58 bshum Yeah I was thinking of https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1820339 which was fix released, so that's fine
11:58 pinesol Launchpad bug 1820339 in Evergreen "Postgres 10 support: Vandelay Edition" [Medium,Fix released]
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12:27 jeff Dusting off plans for supporting "pick up other people's holds" via SIP2.
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14:03 csharp sandbergja: around?
14:04 sandbergja csharp: yup!  I'm here
14:05 csharp I'm testing your fix to bug 1816475 and when doing the "ng build --prod" step, I see this: https://pastebin.com/ph7dbp0a - seems like we need to add moment-timezone to package.json somewhere?
14:05 pinesol Launchpad bug 1816475 in Evergreen "Booking module refresh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1816475
14:06 csharp one our libraries is very interested in booking, so we're enthusiastic about getting into 3.4 (or as close as we can get)
14:06 csharp s/getting into/getting your fix into/
14:06 sandbergja ooh, let me take a look.  I might have missed a commit in that branch.
14:07 csharp no prob - I figured you probably already have it correct locally :-)
14:07 sandbergja thanks for testing, btw!
14:08 bshum dbs: "the keyboard? how quaint..."
14:10 sandbergja csharp: I just took a look -- do you have the commits with messages starting "LP1834662"  as well as "LP1816475"?
14:11 csharp sandbergja: oh - no I don't - that's certainly the problem
14:11 csharp I'll start over :-)
14:11 csharp more soon
14:11 csharp for some reason, I assumed the other bug's commits were already committed to master
14:12 sandbergja keep me posted!  Hope you like it -- let me know if you have other questions as you test!
14:12 csharp thanks!
14:13 sandbergja out of curiosity: what does that one library want to use the booking module for?  I'm always interested to hear use cases for it.
14:14 sandbergja as in what resources do they want to use it for?
14:19 csharp I think it's for meeting room-type resources
14:19 sandbergja that makes sense!  Thanks!
14:20 mmorgan sandbergja: We had a library that was using booking for book club kits - tote bags with all different formats of a certain title.
14:22 sandbergja mmorgan: cool!  do you think they might be interested in testing out the Angular booking interface too?
14:23 sandbergja I'm also happy to just make screenshots or a video of the new interface so they can give their feedback without the overhead of loading the branch, etc.
14:26 mmorgan We've certainly been keeping an eye on the progress of the development. I think screenshots or a video would be great! Not just for libraries that have been using the old version, but also to show others what it looks like, which might give them ideas about what it might be useful for.
14:28 sandbergja I will do that!
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15:50 abowling running into the server not supporting the staff client error, even though they're on the same minor release version. anyone fill me in on a piece of magic i might be missing?
15:50 abowling ^one is a production server; the clone is a test server
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15:54 jeff abowling: for the XUL client, support is determined by looking for an entry in /xul/ on the server.
15:55 jeff so, https://demo.example.org/xul/
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Results for 2019-08-12

11:58 berick csharp: "verified in production" would be useful, I think, but not a de facto sign off
11:59 berick it's like a half sign off
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12:05 berick mmorgan: i don't disagree, but presumably whoever adds the 'verified in production' tag would also be adding a sign-off
12:05 berick my point is the combo is not the same as 2 sign-off's
12:06 berick it's 1 really good sign-off
12:07 JBoyer The other could be as simple as "I looked this over and didn't find any rotten code smell," if it's difficult to test directly. Just making sure that a fix to a weird problem doesn't accidentally introduce some local assumptions / policy is still valuable, even if you didn't encouter the original issue.
12:07 dbs It doesn't necessarily cover review for accessibility or other parts of the sign-off checklist that we're supposed to go through
12:08 dbs translation, etc
12:20 mmorgan berick: yes, a really good sign-off. So maybe a 'verified in production' tag could put a fix in a state where a core committer could do the final review like JBoyer suggests?
12:36 * dbs is unsure if there is anything that has superceded that checklist
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12:42 JBoyer If so it should probably be updated, but some of the additions seem relatively modern.
12:42 JBoyer Should probably be some mention of the npm test steps in the web client(s) though.
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13:19 csharp berick: makes sense to me that "verified in production" would be considered strong evidence in favor of a signoff and not an actual signoff
13:19 csharp (in other words, we agree :-) )
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13:22 csharp my goal in thinking about that was addressing those fixes that linger because of difficulty in testing (jeffdavis has/has had a number of these over the years)
14:04 berick agoben: these dates are locked in, yeah? https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=hack-a-way:hack-a-way-2019
14:11 rhamby berick: they are
14:12 berick thanks rhamby

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