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Results for 2019-12-03

10:11 berick "today in PINES training we learn IRC"
10:12 csharp "ok, y'all just hang tight for about 45 mins..."
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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.30.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,642733428-0500 -0>
11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.31.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,670095784-0500 -2>
11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.32.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,697174167-0500 -4>
11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Dojo <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.35.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,724417964-0500 -6>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.36.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,751807836-0500 -8>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG Action/Trigger <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.38.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,779140022-0500 -10>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,806399243-0500 -12>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.42.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,833616012-0500 -14>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running autogen.sh <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.44.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,861887222-0500 -16>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,889208650-0500 -18>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running settings-tester.pl <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.48.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,916017334-0500 -20>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,942780711-0500 -22>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: srfsh.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.58.html#2019-12-03T11:00:45,969839648-0500 -24>
11:02 phasefx I'm going to change that to report just the first error :)
11:04 phasefx though in this case, the webifier is not catching the true first error, which is Err:106 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 libgd-graph-perl all 1.48-2
11:04 phasefx Hash Sum mismatch
15:50 Topic for #evergreen is now QA-related bugs (Meeting topic: Evergreen Develpment Meeting 2019-12-03)
15:50 gmcharlt this is a carry-over from an earlier version of the agenda, but the LP link for "qaproject"-tagged bugs turns up nothing
15:50 gmcharlt does anybody recall what this is?
15:50 phasefx no bugs there at the moment; I added that to the stock agenda way back when tests failed and no one had the itch to address it
15:51 gmcharlt ah, OK
15:51 phasefx for regressions
15:51 gmcharlt #info The "qaproject" LP tag is meant for bugs stemming from automated test failures that aren't immediately addressed

Results for 2019-12-02

10:59 * jeff eyes bug 1852316
10:59 pinesol Launchpad bug 1852316 in Evergreen "Overrideable events at checkout should not be hard coded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852316
11:01 mmorgan jeff: We're beyond 3.1, but I don't remember encountering ACTOR_USER_NOT_FOUND when overriding.
11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:02 * mmorgan also ponders the reasoning behind hard-coded overrideable events ...
11:05 Dyrcona It's easier that way. Sometimes generic overrides are hard.
11:07 mmorgan Problematic in the long run, though :-(
11:14 dbs ah that fun moment when you realize you've been running through the OpenSRF install instructions meant for your dev system on your production system instead
11:16 dbs theoretically opensrf 3.2 should just work in place of 3.1, I suppose
11:18 dbs apache websockets should continue to function as before
11:18 dbs Guess I'll test restarting things late at night and see if anything blows up :)
11:19 jeff found it. local experiment.
11:23 Dyrcona dbs: Yeah, it should work.
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Results for 2019-12-01

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12:04 jeff and thus begins fine forgiveness month!
12:04 jeff welcome to december.
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Results for 2019-11-30

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Results for 2019-11-29

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Results for 2019-11-28

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Results for 2019-11-27

10:57 mmorgan circ.selfcheck.block_checkout_on_copy_status had value "105", changed it to ["105"] and success :)
10:58 mmorgan berick++ #again:)
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11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.31.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,692008489-0500 -2>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.32.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,720011175-0500 -4>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Dojo <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.35.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,747737158-0500 -6>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.36.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,774518634-0500 -8>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG Action/Trigger <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.38.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,801086048-0500 -10>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,827769691-0500 -12>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.42.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,854403250-0500 -14>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running autogen.sh <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.44.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,881090412-0500 -16>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,907739113-0500 -18>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running settings-tester.pl <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.48.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,935641496-0500 -20>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,963486842-0500 -22>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: srfsh.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.58.html#2019-11-27T11:00:37,991231100-0500 -24>
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11:35 jeff and thus began the heartwarming tale of the little sorter that learned the value of forgiveness...
11:35 jeff (sure to be a classic)
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>

Results for 2019-11-26

10:43 rfrasur csharp++ # for avoiding assimilation.  Today.
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10:51 JBoyer mmorgan++
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:07 jeff going to experiment with some reporting on "time on shelf / time out of library" with potential breakdowns between "on holdshelf", "in transit", "normal out", "overdue", "lost (bounded somehow)"... has anyone here done (or is anyone here aware of someone who has done) similar?
11:10 jeff also musing a bit about ways to factor in "opportunities to circ" in some way, but not sure. knowing an item's last checkout was six months ago is slightly out of context if it was just returned last week. that could be something as simple as factoring in the checkin time or status change time (similar to how we factor in active date) when saying "show me items that haven't circulated in X"
11:13 mmorgan jeff: We commonly use status changed time as a measure of how long an item has been sitting on the shelf.
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Results for 2019-11-25

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14:37 csharp more news on bug 1840950, the error Safari throws when it doesn't load the expire date is "Timepicker directive: "ng-model" value must be a Date object, a number of milliseconds since 01.01.1970 or a string representing an RFC2822 or ISO 8601 date."
14:37 pinesol Launchpad bug 1840950 in Evergreen "Patron expiration date & iPads" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840950
14:38 csharp so I'm wondering why Safari would be more strict than Chrome/FF about that?
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14:40 csharp also, going to look into adding console output statements to find out what it's actually seeing get returned
14:44 csharp and why date of birth is not causing the same error.
14:46 csharp on that last, in the test account I'm playing with, dob has the date in YYYY-MM-DD and expire date is YYYY-MM-DD HH:mm:ss-<offset>
14:48 jeff that console error is from an old version of UI Bootstrap. it's not present in the current (archived, read-only) code.
14:48 jeff (this info isn't directly helpful, sorry)
14:50 jeff the error text was changed in this commit: https://github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap/comm​it/aa010b024e936b9ced66a58726d4fe591be9383c
16:37 sandbergja jihpringle: oh!  Good to know!  We're still back on 3.1, so we don't have preferred name in Evergreen yet, so we're trying to think of a strategy
16:37 jihpringle we told our libraries they had to wait for 3.3
16:39 sandbergja One question I've had locally: do we need to store both the preferred name and the legal name?  Do we really need the legal name for any of our Evergreen work?  Do you have a sense for why your academics would like both preferred and legal names in Evergreen?
16:40 jihpringle those questions haven't really come up for us yet
16:40 jihpringle we're at the stage of getting test records with preferred name included from a couple of our academics
16:41 jihpringle for those we're expecting to load both legal and preferred name
16:42 sandbergja Good luck with that process!  Thanks for your help -- okay if I pick your brain after you are farther into that process?
16:42 jihpringle thanks and absolutely
16:43 jihpringle it might also be a good question for the next student success group meeting
16:47 sandbergja That means I have to schedule the next student success working group meeting :-)
16:47 jihpringle I vote for January (over December) :)
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17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing OpenSRF pre-requisites <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~l​ive/test.7.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,681718863-0500 -0>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~l​ive/test.9.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,708141366-0500 -2>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running OpenSRF build tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.10.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,734605538-0500 -4>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.11.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,761288829-0500 -6>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed updating /etc/hosts <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.13.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,787742381-0500 -8>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configuring ejabberd <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.15.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,814375373-0500 -10>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed creating jabber users <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.16.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,840791114-0500 -12>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configuring OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.17.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,867311142-0500 -14>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.18.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,894126627-0500 -16>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed stop opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.19.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,920558926-0500 -18>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.20.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,946936529-0500 -20>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed test opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.21.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,973464938-0500 -22>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configuring websockets <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.22.html#2019-11-25T16:45:39,999807878-0500 -24>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed stop opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.23.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,026329460-0500 -26>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,052962379-0500 -28>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.30.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,079548880-0500 -30>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.31.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,106020375-0500 -32>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.32.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,132437083-0500 -34>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Change File Ownership <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.33.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,159147985-0500 -36>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Dojo <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.35.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,185657503-0500 -38>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.36.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,212067284-0500 -40>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.37.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,238680534-0500 -42>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG Action/Trigger <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.38.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,265090706-0500 -44>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,291499810-0500 -46>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.42.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,318294201-0500 -48>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed start opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.43.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,344670818-0500 -50>
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17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running autogen.sh <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.44.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,371369598-0500 -52>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Restarting Apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.45.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,397989205-0500 -54>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed test EG opensrf <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.46.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,424422216-0500 -56>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,451206084-0500 -58>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running settings-tester.pl <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.48.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,477946058-0500 -60>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,504622784-0500 -62>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Gathering log summary <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.50.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,532204661-0500 -64>
17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: config.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.51.html#2019-11-25T16:45:40,559102863-0500 -66>
17:02 berick heh, looks like an Angular exception stack trace
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Results for 2019-11-24

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Results for 2019-11-22

10:49 Dyrcona heh.
10:49 AFloyd__ lol
10:50 Dyrcona I thought of something that would make a decent band name this morning, but now I've forgotten it.
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:04 rjackson_isl Prevagen... One of these days I will have to remember to buy
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11:06 Dyrcona rjackson_isl: :)
14:11 csharp looking at Cat.pm - wondering if it's appropriate to add a check of whether the vol ID is -1, and if so, exit the function without changing anything
14:11 csharp within the fleshed_volume_update sub
14:12 csharp or if there's a better way to do it
14:14 Dyrcona csharp: That's certainly one way, but I'm not sure what effect that would have on the client. It might return an error. I'd have to look at the code. You could always try it in a test environment to see what happens.
14:15 Dyrcona A database trigger might have a similar effect depending on what it does. It could not do the update, but have it appear to be successful.
14:18 csharp yeah, my first thought was a trigger, but then I wanted to look upstream to see why it ignores what apparently the XUL client took into account, and since I'm more confortable in perl than in Angular/JS I got caught there :-)
14:18 Dyrcona It looks like the check was in the XUL client based on the bug description. It should probably be moved to the back end code, though.
15:08 Dyrcona yeah... like The Jimi Hendrix Experience. :)
15:08 berick @who sang "MARC On a Lark" for Cataloging Experience?
15:08 pinesol bwicksall sang MARC On a Lark for Cataloging Experience.
15:08 csharp okay, so my patch passes a basic smoke test on a stock master server with concerto data
15:09 Dyrcona And, I think I musta heard of The Mundanes before because John Linnell from They Might Be Giants was in the band.
15:09 Dyrcona Yeah? You were able to create a new call number without it blowing up?
15:12 csharp hmm - maybe not
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18:11 gmcharlt a pull request is now available for that Hoopla SIP2 issue: bug 1853363
18:11 pinesol Launchpad bug 1853363 in Evergreen "SIP2: add setting to specify overriding certain flag fields" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1853363
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Results for 2019-11-21

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10:29 berick jeffdavis: re: your JS build issues, our package-lock.json file is essentially meaningless.  delete it and node_modules and rebuild.
10:44 jeffdavis Thanks, I'll try that.
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing AngularJS web client - Expected 6 errors but encountered 14. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.28.html#2019-11-21T11:00:47,710749240-0500 -0>
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11:28 Dyrcona Hmm... So Pg12 just "magically" showed up on my test db server. I think that happened because installing updates recently, I had the non-version postgres package installed.
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13:54 * jeff nods
13:55 jeff slightly more operational / on topic question: has anyone experimented with having a SIP client checkin set the underlying args for "Amnesty Mode" checkin?
13:55 alynn26 If they just dropped them in the book drop, then any additional fines on there account where not forgiven
13:55 jeff it looks like it should be quite possible, i just haven't tested the theory yet.
14:00 agoben Ok, it's meeting time!
14:00 agoben #startmeeting EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2019-11-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2019-11-21
14:00 pinesol Meeting started Thu Nov 21 14:00:15 2019 US/Eastern.  The chair is agoben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:16 agoben Thanks!
14:16 agoben #topic 2020 Conference Committee
14:16 Topic for #evergreen is now 2020 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2019-11-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-11-21)
14:16 terranm We have extended preconference submissions by another week. If we don't get enough submittals, we'll start reaching out to individuals.
14:16 terranm Conf registration form is being tested now, hopefully will get all changes made and posted right after Thanksgiving.
14:16 terranm Sponsor / exhibitor interest is starting to trickle in, but it's early days yet.
14:16 terranm #info Budget for approval: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/178j7UUgoQU​gf0fWvRFrPeEJCn4i5qQXSBgzaqcJLTu0/edit?usp=sharing
14:16 terranm Food and beverage is incredibly expensive (the bad part about being in a nice hotel in Atlanta), but we're still on track to making a profit.
14:17 nfBurton How many submissions have we had?
14:17 terranm For programs?
14:18 nfBurton Yeah
15:01 rfrasur (I'm not on the board but I have opinions) I could see this as something that could be developed in the future, and it'd be nice to have the platform available to build on.
15:01 gmcharlt well, to toss another use case out there
15:02 gmcharlt we could potentially want to do things like send a community member to a specialized training, potentially sharing the costs with there employers
15:02 Dyrcona A lot of other F/OSS projects/foundations offer such scholarships and grants for conference attendance. They are sometimes means tested.
15:02 JBoyer csharp, not so much "us," but TEP offering a grant to the Eg conference to those in the community at large that can't afford it or potentially sending Evergreeners to Code4Lib or something like that.
15:02 gmcharlt so I'm in favor of keepign the door open for that
15:02 csharp ok - good points and no arguments from me :-)
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17:32 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
17:56 jeffdavis berick: deleting package-lock.json alleviated my immediate install woes, thanks again for that advice
17:57 jeffdavis (still shaking my head and muttering darkly about npm though)
17:58 berick jeffdavis: i know the feeling...  if you care to weigh in on package-lock specifically, bug 1792394

Results for 2019-11-20

10:56 Bmagic https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Everg​reen.git;a=blobdiff;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/li​b/OpenILS/Application/Storage/Publisher/action​.pm;h=67b6782854e8392a4b1e22ab1ba25f3dd268a233​;hp=213ed59e5a37fcf374555617def51600e8941471;h​b=8c3e76cb5a45dab8843015d977bb39c5ae31420c;hpb​=65ee0cb4c23f9f1277bd37ef7d52e186e1b6a303
10:56 pinesol Bmagic: [evergreen|Jason Boyer] LP1825403: Do not Include Tag Owner in Tag - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=65ee0cb>
10:56 Bmagic that commit (I believe) is causing the issue
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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-20T11:00:52,280176385-0500 -2>
11:05 JBoyer It's possible. I'm a little weak on my perl type conversions so I'm not 100% certain what's being attempted there and where it's falling down.
11:17 Bmagic removing that patch and rebuilding now
11:18 Bmagic getting an error from "cellPrintValues" being present in various eg2 files. using npm version 6.12.1
11:39 berick Bmagic: confirmed.  I'll fix...
11:39 berick i clearly forgot to do a prod build :(
11:39 Bmagic :)
11:54 berick Bmagic: sorry, almost there, trying to test but running into other issue (so fun!)
11:59 berick Bmagic: follow up patch pushed to user/berick/lp1835982-grid-csv-template-fields-3
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17:31 jeff 30:47:47 # iterm2 30 windows, 47 tabs, 47 sessions
17:31 jeff 1:1 # chrome 1 windows, 1 tabs
17:39 jeffdavis \o/
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18:53 jeffdavis It is truly amazing what utter garbage modern JS build processes are.
19:02 jeffdavis currently running into this one, I think: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/29364
19:07 jeffdavis I think that bug is fixed in make-fetch-happen 5.0.2 but eg2's package-lock.json appears to specify 5.0.0
19:07 * jeffdavis grudgingly admits that package name is pretty good though
19:27 * jeffdavis rebases dev branch to EG3.3 in order to proceed with testing
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23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-20T23:00:51,628837591-0500 -2>
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Results for 2019-11-19

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10:43 rhamby half and catch fire?
10:46 alynn26 Shall we play a game?
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11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-19T11:00:50,227920014-0500 -2>
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15:37 jeffdavis opensrf.math and opensrf.dbmath aren't actually used by anything, are they?
15:39 Dyrcona Nope.
15:39 Dyrcona We don't run them in production. They're useful for testing.
15:42 remingtron jeffdavis: there's one reference to opensrf.math in here: src/support-scripts/oils_header.pl
15:44 remingtron but I don't see anything actually using it in the support scripts
15:46 Dyrcona I've considered deleting or updating oils_header.pl in the past, but started using Cronscript.pm instead and forgot about it.
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21:35 dbs jeffdavis: I feel like I went through the same situation our last few upgrades, and spent a lot of frustrating time trying to tweak apache/nginx/opensrf configs
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Results for 2019-11-18

10:59 Dyrcona Bmagic: I was told the webstaff client JS code is not hashed.
11:00 Dyrcona It also shows no signs of being hashed on the server.
11:00 Bmagic Dyrcona: oh - that would explain it then
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen pre-requisites <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.26.html#2019-11-18T11:00:39,893701943-0500 -0>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing AngularJS web client - Expected 6 errors but encountered 7. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.28.html#2019-11-18T11:00:39,920480788-0500 -2>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-18T11:00:39,947310956-0500 -4>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.30.html#2019-11-18T11:00:39,974069736-0500 -6>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.31.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,000866018-0500 -8>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Evergreen <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.32.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,027689839-0500 -10>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Dojo <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.35.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,054448470-0500 -12>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure apache <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.36.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,081340165-0500 -14>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed configure EG Action/Trigger <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.38.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,114056022-0500 -16>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.41.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,140963147-0500 -18>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.42.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,168224855-0500 -20>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running autogen.sh <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.44.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,194972245-0500 -22>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running pgTAP live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.47.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,223268567-0500 -24>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running settings-tester.pl <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.48.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,250357782-0500 -26>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,276926616-0500 -28>
11:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: srfsh.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.58.html#2019-11-18T11:00:40,303442546-0500 -30>
11:04 Bmagic Well - I don't think I did it right: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/E​vergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/​blake/lp1835982-grid-csv-template-fields-2
11:05 Bmagic Trying to fix a merge conflict from user/berick/lp1835982-grid-csv-template-fields-2
11:15 * dbs wonders if the non-hashing of the web staff client is because the service worker was supposed to handle that (but isn't)
14:13 csharp especially if Chrome on iOS is fake
14:14 csharp apple--
14:14 Dyrcona iOS is fake news.... :P
14:15 Dyrcona We've changed something for Safari before. I don't really have a problem with that per se. I just don't test on Safari.
14:16 jonadab Dyrcona: It depends on what you need to do.  If all you're doing is presenting information, modern browser are fairly consistent in their support of basic HTML and CSS up to about 3.  It's when you start needing to Do Things that you have a problem.  But, of course, that's exactly what the webclient is doing:  things.
14:17 Dyrcona jonadab: Which is why I said the web client was a bad idea from the start.
14:17 * jonadab would've been in favor of an ncurses-based client that runs in a terminal, but might not get full support from all the non-IT people in all the libraries on that.
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-18T23:00:49,416042551-0500 -2>
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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-17T11:00:51,346534000-0500 -2>
11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: osrfsys.log - Expected 3 errors but encountered 6. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.76.html#2019-11-17T11:00:51,387780045-0500 -4>
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23:31 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-17T23:01:32,491206320-0500 -2>

Results for 2019-11-16

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11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-16T11:00:47,850767604-0500 -2>
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12:46 pinesol [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1849208 - Add PostgreSQL 10 Makfile.install targets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=87a9622>
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-16T23:00:59,401836974-0500 -2>
23:26 pastebot "Bmagic" at 168.25.130.30 pasted "Angular nested loop table" (34 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10098
23:29 Bmagic berick: Been hammering on this for a couple of hours. I got the data from xact.billings() all the way to the template for sure. It displays great as long as I don't use a <table> - But I want a <table> in my print! I believe the issue is the angular output is putting junk in the table before the <tr> causing it to render wrong
23:30 Bmagic ... funky awesome Saturday night!

Results for 2019-11-15

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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-15T11:00:51,231415254-0500 -2>
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18:27 jeffdavis Wow, there is some really ancient content on the wiki.
18:40 jeffdavis bug 1852819
18:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1852819 in Evergreen "Documentation for multi-server environments" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852819
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23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-15T23:00:48,950168677-0500 -2>

Results for 2019-11-14

10:33 mmorgan current_shelf_lib is what I was missing. That was the important thing to clear :)
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11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-14T11:00:55,818166371-0500 -2>
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-14T23:01:16,657517213-0500 -2>

Results for 2019-11-13

11:02 Dyrcona It's approaching bedtime on a Sunday night, the server is 50 miles away, it's not responding to Ctrl-Alt-Del over the KVM remote software. (I forgot about iDRAC.) I decided to wait until the next day.
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11:02 Dyrcona Or maybe that was Monday morning....
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing AngularJS web client - Expected 6 errors but encountered 5. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.28.html#2019-11-13T11:00:50,598274535-0500 -0>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-13T11:00:50,640152635-0500 -2>
11:03 Dyrcona Anyway, drama continues on Tuesday with the iDRAC. No remote console 'cause the license either expired or was never purchased, but the hardware looks good.
11:04 Dyrcona It's still 50 miles away, and I don't feel like driving, so I try what I can try remotely, and no luck. It's only the reports server and that's all running on the main DB server.
11:04 Dyrcona So, I get into the office today, about 4 miles from the colo facility.
13:28 alynn26 Checked those permissions and those are set to Consortium.  hmmm
13:28 jeff and the users in question (who can't see the messages) have a working location set?
13:29 alynn26 That is one of the first things I checked.
13:29 jeff (asking basic things, since maybe the users were newly created for this task/testing and haven't yet been used in a way where a lack of working location would have been noticed)
13:29 jeff good deal.
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13:46 berick alynn26: could be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1847805
13:46 pinesol Launchpad bug 1847805 in Evergreen "pcrud search can fail to retrieve rows that the user has access to" [High,Confirmed]
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-13T23:02:29,656218194-0500 -2>

Results for 2019-11-12

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07:30 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-12T07:12:26,284614174-0500 -2>
07:52 JBoyer Hmm. I think I preferred it when Chrome didn't run. :/
08:17 rhamby JBoyer: I once had a sysadmin tell me in response to Evergreen getting a bug in a new release that adding new features could never cause existing code to have bugs because software didn't work like that .....
08:18 * phasefx refrains from commenting more than he's doing right this moment..
21:33 jeff csharp: what did postgresql do to save the day?
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23:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-12T23:01:08,509447039-0500 -2>
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Results for 2019-11-11

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08:13 JBoyer I've pushed a change to the eg_live_tests branch that should stop it complaining about the Angular tests.
08:13 JBoyer (at least the part where it complains about Chrome)
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09:54 phasefx JBoyer++
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing AngularJS web client - Expected 6 errors but encountered 4. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.28.html#2019-11-11T11:00:49,088786057-0500 -0>
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-11T11:00:49,130033597-0500 -2>
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12:10 * JBoyer was about to be Extremely Grumpy, but then realized those results are from 4am.
12:11 * JBoyer is not *that* dedicated to testing.
12:39 jeff the number of times in the last few weeks when i've used "squeeze" when i meant to use "stretch"... :P
12:42 jeff could be worse. debian could have selected code names like Joomla! used for 1.0: Sunrise, Sunburst, Sunset, Sunlight, Sundial, Sunspot, Sunscreen, Sunburst... followed by 8 more.
12:49 JBoyer Sometimes I just want numbers. ;_;
14:03 csharp https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1852120
14:03 pinesol Launchpad bug 1852120 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Easier Workstation Management at the Local Administration Level" [Wishlist,New]
14:03 csharp feel free to add thoughts on it
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23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-11T23:00:48,918787306-0500 -2>
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10:32 rfrasur phasefx: thank you.  That answers enough of my question.  mmorgan: no...I know.  Just trying to decide how to proceed with the thing I need to proceed with (in a last minute, timely sort of way).
10:33 rfrasur Okay, my question has been answered.  Thank you all.  Sorry for the ambiguity.
10:40 csharp Bmagic: perhaps it's because npm install is being done by a regular user without the -g flag, which would have installed for all users?
10:41 Bmagic Yeah, I bet that's it. Because on my test machine, I believe I did it with -g first and then decided that we didn't want that officially
10:41 csharp or maybe there's a presumption of a $PATH addition when using npm stuff? I've not used it much outside of EG
10:51 miker anyone interested in taking a look at some pcrud code? https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1847805 would love some eyeballs!
10:51 pinesol Launchpad bug 1847805 in Evergreen "pcrud search can fail to retrieve rows that the user has access to" [High,Confirmed]
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11:24 abneiman Dyrcona++ # on behalf of Eric :)
12:03 Dyrcona abneiman++
12:11 miker Dyrcona: thanks! it can happen, in a similar vein to ye olde pre-3.0 "search doesn't find items in tiny collections within a large consortium" issue, where a user has access to only a small subset of rows in a (relatively large) table, and ordering of results puts invisible rows at the front of the result set
12:12 Dyrcona :)
12:12 miker and its most visible in "magical" pcrud and fielder grids
12:16 Dyrcona I've got a test db  on 3.2.8 with 1.7 million acq.edi_messages. I'll see if I can reproduce it there.
12:20 miker Dyrcona: awesome, thanks.  those two commits should backport fine to 3.2 for testing fwiw
12:20 Dyrcona miker: Yeah, I don't see any big changes to pcrud since then.
12:21 Dyrcona Right now, though, I'm looking into something that I noticed while checking the test database. I want to adjust something in the db update that I'm going to do this weekend.
13:34 mmorgan What's the shortest retention interval folks have set in action triggers?
13:36 mmorgan Does a 1 day retention interval cause any problems?
13:36 Dyrcona mmorgan: It depends on the type of event and the other settings.
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Results for 2019-11-07

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11:27 jeff Anyone have a favorite thermal printer that prints on sticky paper? Our go-to was the Epson TM-T88 ReStick series, but that and the Star models we've looked at to replace it are both becoming difficult to find. I think the Epson one is being discontinued, unclear if the other is just a temporary shortage.
11:31 jeff MAXStick paper seems to be similar to the ReStick.
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12:40 Bmagic After upgrading a test machine from 3.1 to 3.3 - it was noticed that the subject browse results are different and in a different order. Is that expected? (after upgrade, reingest was performed and completed)
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12:49 * csharp stopped working on testing hopeless holds because he just couldn't do it anymore
12:49 stephengwills holding off on that, eh?
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12:52 csharp stephengwills: just trying out a joke I thought of when the word "hopeless" was in every commit message :-)
13:16 Dyrcona OK. I was about to look at the release notes again out of curiosity.
13:17 Dyrcona Actually, that's not a bad idea: looking at the release notes. I haven't really looked at the 3.3 and 3.4 notes, yet.
13:18 Dyrcona Apparently, I have looked at the 3.3 release notes, since a couple of the section links show up as "visited" in my browser. :)
13:20 Dyrcona Nothing about browse in there, but steps about update to Pg 9.6 or later that i should do on my training and test database servers. Bmagic++ # for serendipity
13:21 berick Bmagic: there was some browse code refactoring in 3.3
13:22 berick intention was to avoid any changes, but some may have snuk in
13:22 berick @band add Snuk
14:39 sandbergja I'm curious about how Windows users would contribute to antora-ized docs
14:39 Bmagic I wouldn't be surprised if the lunr repo get's wrapped into the default UI before too long anyway
14:39 * csharp plays the Inception soundtrack whenever Bmagic speaks
14:40 sandbergja Building antora seems like a lot to ask of casual documentation contributors to test their changes
14:40 Bmagic sandbergja: contribution hurdles remain the same
14:40 sandbergja (not that our current stack isn't also a lot to ask)
14:40 Bmagic I've been recommending folks use ascidocfx https://asciidocfx.com/
14:49 jihpringle +1 from me
14:49 stephengwills +1 Marchon
14:50 sandbergja +1 from me!
14:51 abneiman ok - hearing no objections to the general concept, let's toss some action items in
14:51 abneiman #action abneiman will prod gmcharlt about the test server
14:51 abneiman Bmagic and remingtron, are you working on the nav? are there others who want to help here?
14:52 Bmagic I believe there are 70+ links/lines needed
14:52 Bmagic we could divide and conquer. Anyone who wants to help... can!
14:53 sandbergja Bmagic: would they just need access to the working repo to be able to help with that task?
19:00 jeff (and wasn't an unreleased api with docs updated in 2016)
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Results for 2019-11-06

08:49 * csharp googles pysip2
08:49 jeff csharp: https://github.com/berick/pysip2
08:50 csharp jeff: thanks!
08:51 jeff still need to do testing with our actual SIP clients, but very handy when doing dev / iterating on something / debugging something, etc.
08:52 jeff sipsh% start
08:52 jeff Disconnected from localhost
08:52 jeff Connect OK
08:52 jeff Login OK
08:52 jeff Server is online
08:52 jeff sipsh% checkout G880610001556 thing1
08:52 jeff (etc)
08:52 csharp nice
08:53 csharp I've been using https://clcohio.org/sip-testing-tool/ for a while, but it runs on Windows and I haven't gotten it working with wine, which is to say that I only run it in my Win10 VM
08:53 csharp that has definitely helped me track down some issues though
08:57 * Dyrcona uses https://github.com/Dyrcona/PHPSIP2
08:58 Dyrcona And, I recently wrote a little thing in C to login via SIP2 to use with haproxy as a check program. I may share that at some point.
08:59 * Dyrcona has looked/used pysip2 and it is nice. Shell mode is cool.
10:27 Dyrcona Whee! Configuring bridges with netplan....
10:28 Dyrcona I think a lot of the change happening in GNU/Linux today is change for the sake of change, and not because the new thing is necessarily better than the old thing.
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11:06 csharp any reason *not* to do "npm audit" when npm recommends doing that?
11:06 csharp *npm audit fix* that is
11:08 csharp npm just partially answered my question: 1 package update for 15 vulnerabilities involved breaking change
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11:36 Dyrcona csharp: Yeahp. Never do what npm suggests. It breaks things.
11:37 csharp terran and I are testing carousels on current master - we create the carousel and the carousel mapping, then we ran the refresh carousels srfsh script - no change in the OPAC - what are we missing?
11:37 csharp Dyrcona: thanks
11:38 csharp do we need to manually change OPAC templates to see stuff?
11:38 Dyrcona No idea, but did you try clearing your browser's cache?
11:39 csharp yeah, we tried it
11:39 csharp also, are the 'built-in' carousels presumed to have an associated bucket? (we see no rows in container.biblio_record_entry_bucket)
11:40 csharp bug 1851524
11:40 gmcharlt bug 1851524
11:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1851524 in Evergreen "Carousels: bucket not created when adding a carousel" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1851524
11:40 csharp gmcharlt: we'll test that directly
11:41 gmcharlt csharp++
11:45 Dyrcona csharp++ gmcharlt++
11:46 Dyrcona passwords-in-logfiles--
15:38 mmorgan name must also be unique
15:40 BAMkubasa thanks mmorgan
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15:56 jeff also, at least in the XUL client changing the name of an existing duration rule (and max fine perhaps also?) can lead to errors when displaying circ data in item status. i don't think i've tested that in the web client.
15:56 jeff (we just avoided renaming them after discovering that a while ago)
16:02 jeff miker: we are using (a scaled down version of) friends in production here now.
16:03 jeff (going back to the "check out someone else's holds for them" conversation from... August or so)
16:03 Dyrcona :)
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16:06 BAMkubasa "can lead to errors when displaying circ data in item status" well, I suppose I'll be able to tell you for sure soon if the house burns down. I just went through and renamed all of ours to have consistent nomenclature in preparation for adding new ones for auto-renewal
16:10 * jeff nods
16:11 jeff the issue was viewing recent circs for an item where the action.circulation row had names of rules that no longer existed in the corresponding config.* tables.
16:12 jeff it was an annoying but non-fatal error message or two when viewing a recent circ that had a "former" rule name present.
16:16 * mmorgan was curious and so edited a duration rule name on a test system.
16:17 mmorgan I'm not seeing an error pop up in item status. I do see that the Duration Rule field in item status detail shows as blank after the rule is edited.
16:17 BAMkubasa BAMkubasa was foolhardy and edited them all on production
16:17 BAMkubasa :)
16:26 mmorgan BAMkubasa lives dangerously ;-)
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14:54 Christineb I think those might be missing from some versions
14:55 berick Christineb: are you/Mark setting the Record Type to Acq or Bib records?
14:56 Bmagic Is there a trick to it? We have a library who used the 3.1.10 Dojo interface to overlay the copies and it worked. Now, with 3.3 it doesn't
14:58 Bmagic fails silently. If you say it works, then there might be something wrong with the file. I will spend the time to run the scenario on a test machine and grep the logs at the fail point (if it's confirmed working for you)
15:00 csharp soooo, dev meeting? or are there not enough of us around today?
15:00 gmcharlt my inclination is to reboot it (the dev meeting) and reschedule for next week or the following week
15:01 * csharp agrees
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11:46 devted berick: Looking at your new "Angular staff catalog 3.4 project docs update" wiki  page:
11:46 devted https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=dev:browser_staff:angular_staff_catalog
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17:00 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building OpenSRF <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~l​ive/test.9.html#2019-11-02T16:47:44,882936330-0400 -2>
17:00 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running OpenSRF build tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.10.html#2019-11-02T16:47:44,909810621-0400 -4>
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17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Restarting Apache - Expected 1 errors but encountered 2. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.45.html#2019-11-02T16:47:45,600498703-0400 -56>
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17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.49.html#2019-11-02T16:47:45,707536638-0400 -64>
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17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: config.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.51.html#2019-11-02T16:47:45,761152831-0400 -68>
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07:56 Dyrcona Well, disabling user triggers may have helped. I'm not sure. It's still going on an update of action.aged_circulation, which has no user triggers to disable IIRC.  I may have to disable all triggers to get a real performance boost.  I will try that next.
07:56 csharp Dyrcona: yeah - same here - it's still running (since 2pm yesterday)
07:56 csharp the action.circulation update completed, but it's still chewing on aged circ
07:58 Dyrcona Yeah, mine has been going about the same length of time. I'm going to disable all triggers on both tables for my next test when this one finishes.
08:05 Dyrcona I'm tempted to just stop this one and start over. I have more databases I can "break." :)
08:08 Dyrcona Mine had been going 18h 41m before I stopped it just now.
08:12 Dyrcona 'Cause, honestly, if it doesn't knock 6 or more hours off the run time, it's not worth it.
08:15 csharp oh - ok
08:16 Dyrcona I mean it's easier to report on true/false, versus true/false/null. :)
08:16 csharp makes sense
08:18 Dyrcona So, my next test has started on  an "optimized" 9.6 instance on my test db server.
08:21 csharp another factor in my situation is that my staging/testing DB is under-specced compared to production - a consequence of our new environment
08:21 csharp I can probably change it without trouble, but that comes with overhead
08:22 Dyrcona Well, I have 128GB of RAM and 6TB of spinning rust on my test db server. Production is 768GB of RAM and 1.3TB of NVMe SSD, mirrored in a ZFS pool. So, yeah, test is slower for me, too. :)
08:23 Dyrcona Not sure what the RAID is on the test db server. It's configured via hardware, and I never checked. The "joy" of leftover hardware.
08:23 csharp yeah
08:24 Dyrcona I put optimized in quotes, 'cause optimizing Postgres still feels like voodoo to me.
08:24 csharp it's definitely voodoo
09:57 csharp we just don't have any with autorenewal = true
10:23 Dyrcona Well, probably because of the other bug about aged circulation. We patched that already.
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11:23 csharp yeah 162M rows in aged_circulation... I will *not* be applying that update during the upgrade window
11:24 csharp paraphrasing Sonny in the Godfather: "Reports will just have to suffer!"
11:25 csharp and actually, I plan to run these in batches before the upgrade happens so it won't be an issue
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12:45 Dyrcona :)
12:45 csharp UPDATE action.circulation SET auto_renewal = FALSE WHERE auto_renewal IS NULL; - still on that - next is aged circs which is way larger a table
12:45 csharp wondering if we can disable triggers somewhere before this is run?
12:45 Dyrcona Going from 3.2.4 to 3.2.8 with those updates takes about 22 hours on my test db server.
12:46 Dyrcona csharp: That's a good idea. I don't think anything depends on the values of those desk_renewal or auto_renewal fields trigger-wise.
12:46 csharp yeah - just thinking the same thing
12:47 csharp in other news it just got dark as night outside - methinks something wicked this way comes
12:51 JBoyer even better.
12:51 csharp JBoyer: I thought about that approach too - just doing it in advance of the upgrade
12:53 JBoyer Dyrcona, I can see that, if it will complete fast enough. GIven that there's precious little visibility to staff though (until after the update is finished anyway, Dyrcona++ for the IDL updates) I wouldn't let it keep me up very late, or services down very long.
12:54 Dyrcona We usually plan on things being down all night when we upgrade, but I'm going to look into disabling triggers and try it on a test db. I've got plenty of those to mess with. :)
12:57 csharp yeah, trying the disable triggers approach too right now
12:58 csharp I don't mind being down all night either, but without those updates, the 3.3-3.4 upgrade took me like 5 minutes running the scripts manually
12:58 Dyrcona I've identified 5 triggers.
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11:43 phasefx we are such nerds
11:43 Dyrcona Indeed!
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11:44 Dyrcona Which reminds me to tell JBoyer that I wrote the C program to login via SIP2 and set it up as haproxy check program on my test system. I statically linked it because of the chroot.
11:48 JBoyer Dyrcona, not too lousy to track down the necessary libraries, eh?
11:50 Dyrcona Well, the sip2 login only requires libc...
11:52 Dyrcona The other programs in the chroot require about 38 libraries.
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13:03 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: osrfsys.log - Expected 3 errors but encountered 6. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.76.html#2019-10-30T12:49:55,833819643-0400 -2>
13:46 jeffdavis I'm awed and a little frightened by the wide_hold_data SQL query: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergr​een.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/​lib/OpenILS/Application/Storage/Publish​er/action.pm;h=213ed59e;hb=HEAD#l2155
13:46 Dyrcona :)
13:47 Dyrcona jeffdavis are you perchance chasing a bug where copies don't show up on the hold shelf that should?
13:47 mmorgan Heh.
13:47 jeffdavis yep, just testing that fix locally before putting in production
13:49 Dyrcona We've been running it in production for a few months.
13:52 jeffdavis yeah I'm not worried about it at all, just following local procedure - I expect we'll have it in prod tonight :)
14:20 miker jeffdavis: the fun thing is that the query is performant! :)
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