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Results for 2026-03-11

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10:11 * Dyrcona contemplates testing Evergreen with Ubuntu 26.04.
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10:14 Dyrcona Looks like snapshot 4 is still the latest image.
10:41 jeff speaking of testing and Ubuntu...
10:42 jeff Dyrcona: have you ever made use of Ubuntu's cloud images with KVM/qemu/similar? I've used the Debian cloud images before with much success, but a quick attempt at using the Ubuntu images didn't work as expected.
10:49 Dyrcona jeff: I've not used other's images. I have made my own and cloned them with great success in the past.
10:50 Dyrcona I should probably do that again.
10:51 Dyrcona And, I think I'm going to try this Debian 13 vm without a proxy for websockets. I think that means that I can't use the systemd service file as-is. I probably have to modify it.
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11:10 Dyrcona Hey! that seems to work.
11:29 csharp_ linux++
11:31 Dyrcona So, the OpenSRF check_transport_client test fails on Debian 13 with main but not on Ubuntu 24.04 and not with OpenSRF rel_3_3 on either.
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11:33 Dyrcona Same as reported in Lp 2143584.
11:33 pinesol Launchpad bug 2143584 in OpenSRF "check_transport_client test failure on main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2143584 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
11:37 Dyrcona osrfConfigDefault is not getting set.
11:48 Dyrcona These tests are weak.
11:58 Dyrcona yeah. looks it blows trying to get /router from the default config.
11:58 Dyrcona blows up while trying to get
12:05 Dyrcona I wonder if this is a redis thing?
14:48 jeff csharp_: let me know if you want comments in the bug instead of here, but it sounds like you might have a typo/thinko in that comment. you say you're leaning towards moving to plperlu, but Evergreen already exclusively uses plperlu, and does not make use of plperl.
14:50 jeff since we are using plperlu, PL code using plperlu is not subject to restrictions on what it can do, and therefore we need to be a database superuser to CREATE FUNCTION ... LANGUAGE 'plperlu'
14:51 jeff it might be possible to run as a non-superuser database user after those functions have all been declared, which would be a worthwhile investigation, IMO
14:53 csharp_ jeff: thanks - I honestly haven't dug in past hitting the error "psql:000.functions.general.sql:82: ERROR:  Unable to load JSON/XS.pm into plperl at line 2."
14:55 csharp_ I saw in a StackOverflow post that changing the lanpltrusted attribute of pg_language allows non-superusers to create plperlu functions https://stackoverflow.com/a/7014649
14:55 csharp_ so I've done that in my testing
14:56 csharp_ we can point a bug comment to this discussion fwiw
14:57 jeff so you were running as a db non-superuser, modifying the pg_language system tables to mark plperlu as trusted, then trying to use plperl and running into the issue where plperl is (intentionally) prevented from loading modules?
14:57 csharp_ yes
14:58 Dyrcona Don't do that. :)
15:25 Dyrcona Interesting console warnings with Angular 21.
15:32 jeff yeah, at this point it's almost a moral obligation to caution your users against using LastPass. I probably wouldn't go as far as to block them for showing signs of it, but... maybe? ;-)
15:33 jeff (i kid, with that last bit... mostly.)
15:55 Dyrcona Do the shortcut keys ever work? I find that they don't work on my test system with Angular 21 using Chrome.
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16:56 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#2121686 Ensure stat cats can be cleared <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=97f1586​32df8656a65ebf4b3479c930afd589bdf>
16:56 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#2121686 Remove reset button pending further feedback <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d20c926​c4a94b6f5a008c95e366f0b719fa43462>

Results for 2026-03-10

15:07 Dyrcona No, it still defaults to ejabberd.
15:07 csharp_ ok, understood
15:07 gmcharlt fully committing to Redis would warrant at least a 3.4, if not a 4.0
15:08 Dyrcona There are a couple of recent test issues that I'm looking into that I think might be related to recent OpenSRF changes.
15:09 gmcharlt #info An OpenSRF 3.3.3 release is planned; primary goal is adding support for Debian 13 "trixie"
15:09 Dyrcona Lp 2143582 and Lp 2143584
15:09 pinesol Launchpad bug 2143582 in Evergreen "Live test 32-geosort.t failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2143582 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
15:09 pinesol Launchpad bug 2143584 in OpenSRF "check_transport_client test falure on main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2143584 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
15:10 gmcharlt anything else to say about OpenSRF?
15:10 Dyrcona Not much. There will be 1 bug fix to help out the mobile app Hemlock, but it's a general fix for error messages.
15:11 gmcharlt thanks!
15:30 gmcharlt unless folks feel strongly otherewise, I say let's stick with the 15th for the maintenance releases; I can coordinate
15:30 abneiman +1
15:31 Dyrcona Should we decide on a release date for OpenSRF 3.3.3?
15:32 Dyrcona I suppose I could build a beta tarball for bug squashing week if anyone wants to test it.
15:32 gmcharlt Let's do that. I suggest at least a few days before 4/29 so that the OpenSRF and Evergreen releases are not on top of each other, and a tarball for feedback fest is a good idea
15:33 jeff +1 to the OpenSRF tarball, hopefully making it easier for more folk to test the OpenSRF and Evergreen releases together.
15:34 Dyrcona Ok. I'll try and have a tarball for testing ready by the end of next week. I'll update Lanuchpad and send an email.
15:34 gmcharlt Dyrcona++
15:36 gmcharlt #info Next meeting is 14 April 2026
15:36 gmcharlt anything else?

Results for 2026-03-09

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12:52 Dyrcona I suppose that I should also be more involved with Aspen development. I disagree with a change made in the Evergreen driver recently. We'll see what the rest of C/W MARS staff think about it.
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13:20 BAMkubasa We're trying to do some testing with different Best Hold Sort Order configurations. I'm aware that there's a default BHSO written into the EG code. My understanding is that if/when you define a different one, you set it at an org unit level in Library Settings. (We defined a custom one and set it at the consortia level) Is it then called every time
13:20 BAMkubasa something is checked in, or are there other checkin modifers or library settings (etc.) that need to be set for it to be used? In our test scenario, we found a copy that was listed for a hold action.hold_copy_map, checked the thing in and it just went to reshelving.
13:32 Dyrcona BAMkubasa: Holds are complicated. Last time I looked there were over 40 organizational unit settings that affect holds, then there's the hold matrix matchpoint table, and the way your organizational unit tree is set up. (Yeah, the depths of org units affect how holds are filled.) There's also the item age protection settings and probably some other things that I'm forgetting.
13:32 Dyrcona BAMkubasa: So, I guess the short answer is we probably can't give you an answer without looking at all of your settings.
13:33 BAMkubasa :) ok

Results for 2026-03-06

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09:15 Dyrcona Are some tests known to be failing on main at the moment? I'm still getting live check failures with the Angular 21 branch and commits to install the OpenAPI programs. Neither of these should affect Perl live tests.
09:20 Dyrcona OK. Two tests that failed in my first run this morning passed just now.... Our tests are too rickety.
09:21 Dyrcona Ok. geosort.t has failed every single time, and it is the only one failing now.
09:23 Dyrcona Acq tests are passing but I'm seeing things like this for all of them: Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /home/opensrf/Evergreen/Open-ILS/src/perlmo​ds/blib/lib/OpenILS/Application/Acq/EDI.pm line 562.
09:23 Dyrcona It's not the same every time.
09:23 Dyrcona This is Debian 13, so maybe we need some changes for Perl 5.40?
09:25 Dyrcona That geosort test passed when we were doing this a few months ago.
09:26 Dyrcona I wonder if the issue is the OpenSRF version. I'm using OpenSRF 3.3.3 with main Evergreen. That might not work any more. I'll test again on an Ubuntu 24.04 vm with the same branches.
09:27 Dyrcona If the tests fail the same, that will rule out Debian 13 as the sole cause. If they succeed, then maybe it is a Debian 13/Perl thing.
10:18 Dyrcona Is geosort sensitive to timezone?
10:19 Dyrcona Never mind.
10:20 Dyrcona Trying to do this all from memory....
12:34 mmorgan Here's the command: docker run -it -p 80:80 -p 443:443 -p 210:210 -p 6001:6001 -p 32:22 -p 5433:5432 -v //c/users/michele/git/evergreen/docker_rep​o/Evergreen:/home/opensrf/repos/Evergreen -h mmm.noblenet.org mobiusoffice/evergreen-ils:dev
12:36 Bmagic that looks fine to me, is that command issued via powershell?
12:36 Bmagic Windows has several CLI's. git bash (if installed), WSL (if installed), classic command line, and powershell. In this case, it works best from Powershell
12:37 Dyrcona Hrm. An OpenSRF test fails on main.
12:37 mmorgan Yes, powershell.
12:37 Bmagic I've just confirmed that the DEV container works on evergreen main, no issues with patron interface or any other
12:39 Bmagic mmorgan: In the scenario's I've seen, the container doesn't actually complete the boot process when the folder perms aren't working. There's a step in the ansible the performs an rsync, which will go by so fast you don't see it. You know it's working if you watch the boot process and it hangs on the rsync for a minute
13:13 Bmagic great, I think what you just went through might be useful for the crowd
13:15 mmorgan I did panic a bit when a significant part of Evergreen appeared to be broken on main!
13:15 Bmagic I've been there ;)
13:37 Dyrcona Well, some of the tests appear to be broken and I can't figure out why. :)
13:37 Dyrcona :(
13:38 Dyrcona I find vms and other sorts of images can go bad or be bad from the start.
13:41 Dyrcona looks like the geosort test is busted on main.
13:56 Dyrcona Lp 2143582
13:56 pinesol Launchpad bug 2143582 in Evergreen "Live test 32-geosort.t failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2143582
13:57 Dyrcona Lp 2143584
13:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 2143584 in OpenSRF "check_transport_client test falure on main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2143584
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Results for 2026-03-05

10:28 Dyrcona oops. Guess I should have done those two in 1 branch...
10:29 Dyrcona Well, I haven' pull requested it, yet.
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10:51 * Dyrcona uses this opportunity to test main on Debian 13 with OpenSRF rel_3_3 because this combo should work for Evergreen 3.17.
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12:19 Dyrcona *sigh*
12:19 Dyrcona Typos--

Results for 2026-03-04

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09:36 Dyrcona Ugh. Looked up how we might do something in Evergreen, but no, I was supposed to figure it out for Aspen.
09:36 Dyrcona Guess, I'll try setting up a test vm for Aspen.
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10:17 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Did you actually merge the pull request on Github, or was it automatically closed when I pushed to the community repo and the commit propagated to Github?
10:22 Dyrcona I'm guessing it automatically closed and gmchartl is associated with the pushes from the community repository.

Results for 2026-03-02

14:04 pinesol News from commits: LP2043051: Show group overdue count in patron summary <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0116825​4709a37ac4959c09a1cfc0c31c850a605>
14:04 pinesol News from commits: LP#2142171: Remove extra validation style from date pickers in angular fm editors <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0c9700​f7556cdb8cc1a47727a709e6e088bf043>
14:04 pinesol News from commits: LP2084088 Fix issues with saving and editing surveys <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f04a131​7ba7ef4b5f0d2e8d41cf7746b3bd4a76a>
15:58 Dyrcona Trying to get the Perl Expect module to work with Net::OpenSSH to run /openils/bin/api_ctl remotely. It's not working. My test account is not having the new password created.
15:59 Dyrcona I'm starting to think it is an environment issue, and I need to pass the db connection parameters.
16:00 Dyrcona Well, that complicates things because the whole point of this script was to work with various production and test databases from my laptop without needing a ton of parameters.
16:02 Dyrcona The DBI part to update the integrator's permissions from the entry in the passwd-style file works greate.
16:02 Dyrcona Even if the first part fails... :)
16:03 Dyrcona I don't want some complicated config file, either.
16:04 pinesol News from commits: LP#2084088: follow-up: fix a lint issue, sorry! <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c4a9d9​1aae347678fe748f3a264a72210d1f95f>
16:17 Dyrcona Seems dumb. Why would you want to automate setting up an integrator account? You're not going to do it that often. But I likely will have to do it once a month for some time on my test systems as the database gets reloaded from production. Oh well. Guess I'll just script it another way that runs on the server.
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Results for 2026-02-27

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11:55 Dyrcona Is it normal to run the nightwatch tests with Firefox and it appear to be nothing for several minutes?
11:59 Dyrcona firefox does something now and then, so I guess it's "working."
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12:09 javier_guel Hi all, I noted that the search on EG opac was getting slow, I took a look at the logs and noticed that there were search records for IPs that I did not recognize, many of them from other parts of the world, I have the suspicion that some bot or service is carrying out unauthorized searches for other purposes, from the firewall of our network it is
12:43 jeffdavis I think many of us are using some combination of that fix, blocking IP ranges, and/or Anubis.
13:03 sandbergja Dyrcona: responding late.  `npx nightwatch` gives more feedback than the Angular integration `npx ng e2e`.  I don't really know what the angular integration brings to the table tbh
13:03 sandbergja also, bug 2129093 :-(
13:04 pinesol Launchpad bug 2129093 in Evergreen "Nightwatch tests are failing on main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2129093
13:47 csharp_ jeffdavis++
13:58 Dyrcona @later tell sandbergja I was AFK when you mentioned me. It took 58 minutes 39 seconds, and the tests did fail. I'll assume it's because of the bug you mentioned.
13:58 pinesol Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
13:58 pinesol_dev Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
14:05 * Dyrcona looks foolish, but what's new.
14:10 Dyrcona Blanks can kill...
14:11 * Dyrcona waves to bshum.
14:11 * bshum waves back
14:13 Dyrcona Re Lp 2142869, it likely won't be testable because Stripe doesn't send emails in test mode.
14:14 pinesol Launchpad bug 2142869 in Evergreen "Receipts for Stripe Payments" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2142869
14:24 Dyrcona Think I just hit bug 2142163.
14:24 pinesol Launchpad bug 2142163 in Evergreen "Workstation: 'Use Now' workstation no longer populates on login screen" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2142163
14:24 Dyrcona I built my test yesterday.
14:27 csharp_ bshum++
14:37 Dyrcona Interesting, even after applying that commit, my workstation drop down sitill isn't populating on eg2/en-us/staff/login...
14:37 javier_guel ok, I will check the options, tks

Results for 2026-02-26

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11:04 Dyrcona #startmeeting Test Meeting
11:04 pinesol Meeting started Thu Feb 26 11:04:35 2026 US/Eastern.  The chair is Dyrcona. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
11:04 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
11:04 pinesol The meeting name has been set to 'test_meeting'
14:13 csharp_ had to load the Reply plugin
14:13 mantis1 it looks like this is kind of the case with older than 3.15 anyway
14:13 csharp_ so that allows us to create "fun" commands on the fly
14:13 mantis1 at least on our 3.13 test system - the font is red
14:13 csharp_ mantis1: is the date format specified in library settings?
14:14 mantis1 csharp: yes but this library doesn't collect DOBs
14:14 mantis1 so it's just null
14:33 mantis1 when an alert is on the account and there's no dob, the highlight stays
14:33 mantis1 but if you delete it, the highlight goes away
14:34 Dyrcona Mine has "Date of Birth" in bold and no value, but no red. ... That sounds like some kind of styling bug, maybe...
14:34 mantis1 yeah I'll try it on a community test server
14:35 mantis1 yeah it's there
14:35 mantis1 lol ok we found something fun
14:36 mantis1 I'll put in a ticket
14:36 mantis1 Dyrcona++
14:36 mantis1 mmorgan++
14:36 mantis1 csharp++
14:36 Dyrcona Screenshots would help. I'm not entirely sure that I am visualizing what you're describing correctly.
14:37 Dyrcona mantis1++
14:37 mantis1 I'll send the link with the screenshot

Results for 2026-02-25

09:47 Dyrcona Grr... Ubuntu and Python are being aggravating this morning. Apparently 2to3 is no longer packaged, even though "AI" says it is. pip won't install it unless I configure a virtual environment.
10:20 Dyrcona pinesol_dev: load meetbot
10:20 pinesol_dev Dyrcona: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
10:21 Dyrcona Still incompatible. I tried running the tests but I can't without loading the supybot stuff.
10:25 Dyrcona "Try running 2to3 on it." Wish I could that's the part that's giving me headaches, getting 2to3 installed on any recent distro. The Internet lies....
10:25 Dyrcona AI lies, too, for that matter.
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14:41 csharp_ gmcharlt: perfect
14:42 gmcharlt specifically, 100TB
14:42 csharp_ let's fill it up with @band entries!
14:42 jeff sounds good. I'm happy to help with some Python things, but this month hasn't been a great month for free time. Is someone working on meetbot and wants a hand, or do you want me to carve some time to test the successor fork and report back, or are we looking for something in between?
14:42 gmcharlt Google being Google, I wouldn't count on that allotment being eternal, but it is enough (and Google gives enough notice) to incorporate into systematic backups
14:42 Dyrcona Bmagic: Do you have git updates working on the new machine, i.e. the git commits being reported in channel?
14:43 Bmagic Each one should probably be on github (as opposed to files in Google Drive). I'm finding git repos for these: ./Git/.git ./Weather-old/.git ./Weather/.git ./supybot-twitter/.git
14:46 Bmagic Dyrcona: it appears to be working, though I'm not certain which plugin is doing that work. Presumably it's not one of the ones that are throwing compatibility errors on boot
14:49 Dyrcona Bmagic: I think the git plugin that's throwing errors is the one that shows information about branches and hashes.
14:49 Bmagic that's interesting
14:50 Bmagic so, I wonder if Meetbot is working? Maybe we can stop pinesol and test pinesol_dev?
14:50 Dyrcona Maybe we should have done this with Meetbot to have a log? :)
14:50 gmcharlt not too late to try it now
14:50 Bmagic doing it
15:21 Bmagic well guys, I don't know where we are on this
15:21 Bmagic I probably should have brought an agenda
15:22 Bmagic Though, we've compiled some good docs and I feel like we're on the same page. I think* the outstanding issue is still the plugins
15:22 csharp_ I would say we have a sense via the spreadsheet that we need Meetbot, Git, and Karma
15:22 csharp_ and that the hcoop Meetbot replacement needs testing
15:22 Bmagic I'll take that task
15:23 Bmagic wait, maybe hcoop was Dyrcona's baby?
15:23 csharp_ honestly if we can work on those three plugins, we can consider the bot migration path clear with the idea that we can re-implement "fun" plugins after the move

Results for 2026-02-19

16:00 pinesol Dyrcona: I am the coolest bot.
16:01 Dyrcona I missed an opportunity not using 'Zarro Boogs' as my gamer tag.
16:32 goood Dyrcona++ # compiler warning cleanup
16:46 Dyrcona I'm not 100% that the rel_3_15 works. I didn't get the exact same conflicts when I tested it in a branch, so I'm going to rest rel_3_15 tomorrow to make sure it's OK.
16:47 * Dyrcona signs off.
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Results for 2026-02-17

10:36 pinesol Launchpad bug 1917761 in Evergreen "Add Ability to View, Edit, Delete All Patron Barcodes" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1917761
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10:57 jeff unrelated, I think the fix for bug 2137267 needs to be pushed to rel_3_15 also, but I'm testing that theory. If the theory holds, I'll push it before the merge pause this evening.
10:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 2137267 in Evergreen "Enhanced Marc Editor Window Too Small in Z39.50 When "Edit then Import" Selected" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2137267
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11:07 jeff oh, and gmcharlt pointed out in the bug that it's no longer in rel_3_16. oops! I should have looked at the branch and not the bug.

Results for 2026-02-16

16:09 sandbergja abneiman++
16:29 Bmagic taking 1511
16:34 sandbergja Bmagic: regarding bug 2125838: without the patch, building a generic non-dev docker image took me 28:23.58 minutes.  With the patch, and throwing NO_CPAN_TEST=1 throughout install_evergreen.yml, it took 24:42.38 minutes.
16:34 pinesol Launchpad bug 2125838 in Evergreen "Add an option to install prerequisites without running tests for CPAN packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2125838
16:34 Bmagic I was about to look at that myself!
16:35 sandbergja not exactly night and day, and there is of course a lot of variation just due to the network calls.  But still seems signifant and in the correct direction...
16:35 Bmagic I'll see if my test is similar. I'm assuming you made the changes to vars.yml and install_evergreen.yml for the cherry pick and the new var?
16:35 sandbergja yeah
16:36 sandbergja that would be great to repeat the test!  thanks for taking it for a spin!
16:36 Bmagic pretty cool, 4 minutes and 20 seconds is pretty good. Plus, on the tarball build, the overall time should be lower (because we're not downloading the repo)
16:54 sandbergja Bmagic, I realized I need to push a second commit to that branch (should not interfere with your testing).  It was not actually helping with github actions performance as I had it.
16:55 sandbergja (that was one of my main motivations: give people quicker feedback on their pull requests, and don't get too close to the limit on the github actions free tier)
16:58 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#1376427 stamp upgrade script <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1434c7d​91fa3ce6edbab5c4f3828f09d27a09336>
16:58 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#1376427 Docs: New fields in Holdings Import Profile <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=75284ea​aad5fad2d6d0323359298ae6650cf203b>
16:58 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#1376427 Add Age Protection etc to Holdings Import Profile <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ed40aa​6048b228798793d70e9bcbd17eb70a166>
17:33 sandbergja (with appropriate indentation)
17:33 sandbergja to the steps
17:33 Bmagic got a branch I can see?
17:35 sandbergja https://github.com/mcoia/eg-docker/compare/ma​ster...sandbergja:eg-docker:with-no-cpan-test
17:35 sandbergja I guess it was environment, not env
17:36 Bmagic hmmm, that makes it tougher to incorporate it into vars.yml I think
17:36 sandbergja i just threw it wherever it seemed to mention Makefile.install haha
17:36 Bmagic OpenSRF might benefit from the same type of option
17:37 Bmagic I wonder if we'd ever not* want this option in the docker context. Probably not
17:38 Bmagic I know I'm not going to want the build to be slower when I'm working with dockerhub or any other image. I'm leaning towards the environment approach, and eliminating it as an option
17:41 sandbergja I can't think of a reason.  Running the tests for our dependencies sounds nice, but I don't think that a test failure blocks the process or anything, you would have to review the Make output to even know there was a problem with one of the dependencies...
17:42 Bmagic ok, my two builds finished with the cpan test patch winning by 5.7 minutes
17:43 sandbergja woo hoo!
17:43 Bmagic I installed enhanced concerto, in hindsight, I should have tweaked that option to speed up the overall build time. With Tests: 33m29s, without: 25m34s
17:44 Bmagic I'll sign off and merge, if you want to contribute your style patch to eg-docker?
17:45 Bmagic be sure and hit all three build types
17:45 sandbergja Bmagic: thank you!  sounds like a plan
17:58 sandbergja pushed
17:58 sandbergja rather, i pushed the docs as a 3rd commit in that branch
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20:14 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#2125838: add an option to install prereqs without running cpan tests <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d042a2​576f79b90e4cb966e5a946b831bcaf2fc>
20:33 pinesol News from commits: LP#2125838: add an option to install prereqs without running cpan tests <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d042a2​576f79b90e4cb966e5a946b831bcaf2fc>
23:29 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#2125838: follow-up: fix pgtap github action <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf3bfca​1341670816c31f4439afbc195316c3916>
23:33 pinesol News from commits: LP#2125838: follow-up: fix pgtap github action <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf3bfca​1341670816c31f4439afbc195316c3916>
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Results for 2026-02-14

14:01 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP#2131086: follow-up: update pgtap test matrix <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6a108e​b9ff3efc91500d0e3c8aad1238b51e475>
14:01 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP 2131086: Add support for PostgreSQL 18 <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=61b2152​75b0dcb26d8489c9a022eab68df5eabe0>
14:01 pinesol Launchpad bug 2131086 in Evergreen "Update PostgreSQL Supported Versions" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2131086
14:24 pinesol News from commits: LP#2131086: follow-up: update pgtap test matrix <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6a108e​b9ff3efc91500d0e3c8aad1238b51e475>
14:24 pinesol News from commits: LP 2131086: Add support for PostgreSQL 18 <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=61b2152​75b0dcb26d8489c9a022eab68df5eabe0>
14:31 pinesol_dev News from commits: LP2137231 CSS fixes for OPAC action buttons <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc106a3​561dbe1bdac1e6a69a650293d42dcd0ae>
18:04 csharp_ pinesol_dev: sup
18:04 pinesol_dev csharp_: Try running autogen

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10:01 jeff openssl s_client -connect SERVER:PORT -servername something.example.com
10:01 Dyrcona Limnoria is still being worked on.
10:01 jeff -connect is for your hostname or IP and port. -servername is for the value for SNI in the Client Hello.
10:02 Dyrcona jeff++ # I've used openssl for testing things in the past, but usually use stunnel for production.
10:02 Bmagic jeff: is that a cheatcode for connecting to SIP over SSL?
10:02 jeff by default, it'll proceed even if certs don't validate, and it'll emit a lot of useful (or annoying) info about the certs and the negotiated protocol.
10:03 jeff Bmagic: yes, sorry, that was what I meant by "on your earlier SIP over TLS/SSL question, I'd use openssl"
10:03 Bmagic ok great, thanks! jeff++
10:03 Dyrcona Bmagic: s_client makes a ssl connection to the -connect endpoint. It's useful for connecting to anything.
10:04 jeff useful for interactive testing/debugging.
10:07 Bmagic trying it, it appears I have a place to transmit a message over the pipe? Tried my 93 login packet and it's not responding. What am I missing?
10:08 jeff openssl's s_client command has an abundance of options, including -starttls, which is useful for if you're connecting to something that's plaintext by default but requires some kind of STARTTLS negotiation to begin the TLS conversation. -starttls accepts options for protocols it knows about, like smtp, imap, ftp, irc, xmpp, etc.
10:08 jeff yes, it should work similar to a raw netcat or telnet connection in that you have a chance to send lines to the remote socket endpoint.

Results for 2026-02-12

10:41 jeff yes, thanks. I was asking about a permission, setting, or flag that libraries can use to disable this.
10:42 jeff I'll create a followup bug.
10:48 jeff sorry, I see now that my original question was unclear. :-)
11:10 smayo Fairly new to Docker, and trying to convert my test server to the Docker container. Something's up with my Apache configurations, because I'm either getting 500's or 403's.
11:12 smayo Is there anything fancy people running containerized Evergreen on servers with web traffic do to set it up?
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13:17 pinesol News from commits: LP2107992 Form labels for catalog search sort, year <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=183c827​9cda99525cd1e3f3773f9245a579644ee>
13:47 pinesol News from commits: LP2047174 Patron alerts on summary bar should be sortable <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d104cf​813e78ac244fe2f1085b98ebb4a50eed9>
14:09 Bmagic I think I've seen some script somewhere but I can't remember. Does someone have something to test SIP traffic encapsulated over SSL (stunnel)?
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14:17 pinesol News from commits: LP2140588 OPAC add to list dropdown has divider line in wrong place <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a0d1bf​0b997676d201a8e94e2989ba347699a43>
14:17 pinesol News from commits: LP2140353 List dropdown abbreviated in OPAC Add basket to list <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dbffc4​2f98d304fe15fdcf2508ccda1ae44b8f4>

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00:41 pinesol News from commits: LP2140575 (follow-up): add a test <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9eadc3​4110c88e52a05eb2477724103c8e8bdb0>
00:41 pinesol News from commits: LP#2140575 Sort Subfield Codes by Letters Before Numbers <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce0a45f​7c4bdb442ac00ae5933e4c6922faa4550>
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11:57 jeff Dyrcona: I replied to bug 2141472 with what I hope is a helpful pointer/recommendation.
11:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 2141472 in Evergreen "openapi_server should daemonize itself properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2141472
12:05 Dyrcona Well, while I'm looking at the API. I tried setting myself up as an integrator and just running the /self/me stuff from the test script and I seem to get no output.
12:09 Dyrcona Hm... I don't have the api password type, though I was prompted to add it.
12:12 Dyrcona I show up as an enabled integrator with list.
12:15 Dyrcona The prompt to reset the password should offer a hint that y or n are the only acceptable values.
14:13 pinesol News from commits: LP#2140574 MARC Editor: Combobox doesn't display sub-100 fields <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0949969​0b8b9591cd5236bcd20d0f9a7316c2694>
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14:32 Dyrcona I can't get the openapi server to work.
14:33 Dyrcona I don't seem to even make it to the login. I'm using the test script with the values changed for my server environment, account and credentials.
14:38 Dyrcona Oh. I think I might see the problem. I think it's a configuration issue.
14:39 Dyrcona Well, now, I get a bad gateway error, so that's something to work with.
14:42 jeffdavis Users: "Argh, an error message, how frustrating!" Admins: "Ah, an error message, how useful!"
14:43 Bmagic can anyone think of a bug that describes "Staff client catalog search -> more filters" - the array of multi-line select boxes are too narrow to see all of the words
14:46 mmorgan Bmagic: Maybe bug 2055061 ?
14:46 pinesol Launchpad bug 2055061 in Evergreen "Long options in search filters difficult to read" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055061
14:48 Dyrcona Ok. Now, I get LOGIN_FAILED after making some adjustments to the test script. Apparently, the v1 changed to v0.
14:51 Bmagic mmorgan++
14:51 Bmagic you seem to have an iron trap for bugs!
14:52 mmorgan :)

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13:06 Dyrcona I don't suppose anyone is using the OpenAPI endpoint, yet.
13:07 Dyrcona Also, I can't seem to find the test script that someone (goood?) sent around.
13:08 goood Dyrcona: the test script? sec, I'll find a link. it just shows how to use curl with it.
13:09 Dyrcona goood: That would be enough for me right now. I want to enable it for my own account on a test server and play with it a bit.
13:10 goood http://nox.esilibrary.com/​~miker/api-server-test.sh
13:10 Dyrcona goood++
13:13 Dyrcona We're going to see if we can get a certain vendor to use the new API. They currently use OpenSRF and require a staff account or so they say.
13:18 goood Dyrcona++
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16:32 eglogbot_dev test
16:42 jeff hmm now?
16:44 * goood wonders in ... "did I miss anything?"
16:45 goood Bmagic++ # server maint

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14:36 pinesol News from commits: LP#1917761: Patron barcode deletion UI, backend safeguards, and tests <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a94b87​287a467aeb172b9ee6a9883dac2cb6161>
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07:56 pinesol News from commits: LP#2138969: fix query generation for certain Fielder grids <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e4536c​8cbc4d056ab87c4c0304d65cf1c9963e9>
07:56 pinesol News from commits: LP#2139299: Angular Reporter searching, changing 'string' to <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=03bf8ae​29f0a55cf488030c34f15d3f34a0e7bc9>
07:56 pinesol News from commits: LP#2130749: Reorder fields list in Angular Circulation Patron Search <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=46245aa​480f50c3bb4c95a095fa50afe89f511bd>
07:56 pinesol News from commits: LP#2130749: Adds Username to Checkbox Text in Angular Patron Search <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7488fae​afb60506fa3f82f185de59d916e8cf394>
08:26 pinesol News from commits: LP#2120189: restore First Contiguous Non-Space Characters reports transform <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b50bb9c​8cd086b2b305e20681874cf9a00a1403b>
08:26 pinesol News from commits: LP#2116743: Run Angular unit tests in GitHub actions <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=93f7f29​9f3ed3710764115d775a326d75e516a6e>
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09:53 Dyrcona It looks like the attempt to run actor.usr_delete is failing.
09:58 Dyrcona Ah ha! There's a problem with the code I'm testing.
09:59 Dyrcona And maybe it is how I input the values of the settings, not the code itself.
10:06 Dyrcona Heh. bugs in the test. :
10:19 Dyrcona How do I set an org_unit_setting to true with Perl?
10:19 Dyrcona I'll try 't', but bet it will fail.
10:25 Dyrcona The tests all seem to set them to 1, but that failed for me because Rogan's code is doing a cast a to a BOOLEAN.
10:26 Rogan what are you looking at?
10:27 Dyrcona I'm adding Perl tests to Lp 1861239
10:27 pinesol Launchpad bug 1861239 in Evergreen "Aged transactions can be de-anonymized using post code and birth year" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1861239 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
10:27 Rogan ah, that explains the lack of recent memory
10:27 Dyrcona Apparently, I can't set a JSON true value via Perl.
10:38 Dyrcona Upgrade script worked.
10:48 sandbergja Dyrcona, regarding a JSON true value via Perl, I came across this from berick recently: https://github.com/evergreen-library-system/​Evergreen/blob/b50bb9c8cd086b2b305e20681874c​f9a00a1403b/Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenIL​S/Application/Actor/Settings.pm#L515-L519
10:51 Dyrcona sandbergja: Thanks, but I figured out something that works: OpenSRF::Utils::JSON->true
10:56 Dyrcona This is why we should have tests...
11:00 Dyrcona Awesome sauce. My tests and a fresh install are working. Guess the tests worked in the sense that they found issues with the schema code.
11:00 Dyrcona Now to add tests for an ou that doesn't have the settings turned on.
11:14 Dyrcona Maybe I should do tests for an org set to only redact birth year. I could see that being the most common setting: keep post code, but not birth year.
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11:25 sandbergja gmcharlt: thanks for your interest in reviewing bug 1741162 -- as you requested, I am sending you a reminder ping
11:25 pinesol Launchpad bug 1741162 in Evergreen "Remove Dojo from added content JavaScript" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741162
11:25 Dyrcona Only 7 of the 23 tests are actually testing this branch.
11:26 Dyrcona I could add a couple more to see if the circulations are actually checked in, but...
11:27 Dyrcona Think I'll add some tests for BR2 and BR3. Might as well exercise all of the options.
11:56 Dyrcona Great. So I picked a user without a dob to test keeping only the birth year.....
11:56 Dyrcona Guess I need to find another patron from BR3.
11:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1998645: (follow-up) tidy up updateInMemory* <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a93ee8d​543ee20d5c7c0fa150fc3c17306c8919e>
11:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1998645: (follow-up) rename "Filter" button <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c18db0​76612a1d54c417c0af944288a2e04493a>
11:59 pinesol csharp_: Yes!
11:59 Dyrcona Ha!
12:01 Dyrcona OK. User #18 from BM1 has transactions and a dob. I'll use that user.
12:03 Dyrcona Awesome. 47 tests pass.
12:06 Dyrcona tests++
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12:47 Dyrcona Tests pass when I add the new one to the live_t directory, so that's something.
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13:27 Lorne HI, if I am trying to hide OPAC for all of the Organisation Units in Staff client > Administration > Server Administration, do I have to be logged into the top-level consortium for the changes to stick? Right now I have an admin logged into BR1, turned off all OPAC & restarted apache but OPAC still shows.
13:27 Dyrcona If the user was logged in when the setting change was made, then they need to log out and log in to see the change.
13:33 Lorne ++ Dyrcona
13:35 * Dyrcona grabs 1509\
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13:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1861239: Stamp DB Upgrade <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f70aef2​7d4050f642dbbbe5a890c117d0cae5073>
13:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1861239: Add Perl live test for functionality <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d91ba5d​4f411d3514909185401fe464da07d9fd7>
13:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1861239: Fix Thinko in base schema <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dd2da3​23e561a109cd3af9c28ed41591672a3cd>
13:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1861239: Fix syntax error in 950.data.seed-values.sql <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=bff28d1​42f911d92a7d02d9d6bceba49d856b6e7>
13:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1861239: Improve release note formatting <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=09b2c44​48c998904fe260c7ac6f9d09179c145e8>
13:57 pinesol News from commits: LP#1861239: Optionally drop post code or birth year in aged transactions <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Ev​ergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b97416c​2022f95bd6856a6123d2f870d0610a58d>
14:58 Dyrcona typos--
15:06 Dyrcona Firmware update for the laptop. Why not install it, now?
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