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Results for 2013-09-25

08:43 senator 74035faa65dacc made more problems go away than maybe what bshum knew
08:44 senator between that and c4e07520d85 i don't see any significant ie issues with the responsive-tpac branch anymore
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08:46 dbs senator: I think 74035faa65dacc actually fixed the logo / green screen thing on the IE home search too; I was testing my fix locally, pulled the branch, then pushed my fix, before I realized that theory was working just fine without the s/<strong><center>/margin:auto/ change
08:47 senator ah i guess so
08:47 senator bshum++
08:47 senator dbs++
08:52 senator yeah, that was my vague intention for what should happen with semiauto, but i probably never expressed it clearly or prominently
08:53 bshum senator++
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08:55 remingtron edoceo: do you still host an EG test server? I'm wondering if it will be available during the upcoming DIG hackaway in Nov.
08:56 bshum remingtron: I had some plans to setup a test server for DIG use as well.
08:56 dbs bshum: if you check the git history, you'll see that I chipped away at it for a while
08:56 dbs eventually a squirrel ran by and I got distracted...
08:56 bshum But it'd be good to know what edoceo is doing with his server.

Results for 2013-09-24

09:50 dbs f6fbea5a4a1cab03e was the relevant commit, but need to fix initial tab too
09:54 dbs bshum: pushed a commit to fix that
09:54 bshum dbs++
09:55 * csharp will throw the mobile OPAC code on a 2.5-ish test server later this week for "production" testing
09:55 Dyrcona It looks good on my Galaxy S4.
09:55 csharp I'll test some today if I get a chance on a vanilla master server, but today is meeting-ful
09:55 csharp theory looks great on my Note 2
09:56 bshum dbs: Works for theory
09:56 csharp I got to brag on y'all to my bosses ;-)
09:57 dbs There are some inconsistencies with Submit button ("Search") vs. Clear Form that we fought with before that raised their heads again last night. Still not pretty.
11:43 senator well of course, and everyone's doing a great job, and this is an unusually strong, collaborative effort
11:43 senator i'm not trying to put the brakes on anything here
11:44 dbs I've got to go get lunch. With the possible exception of experimenting with <button> instead of <a> for .opac-buttons, I think I'm done for a while.
11:44 * csharp refreshes his dev server to test the mobile OPAC
11:45 dbs There's a lot more to be done, but it has come a long way.
11:45 senator but i think our meaningful review/sign-off practices are worth maintaining
11:45 dbs csharp: collab/dbs/responsive-tpac is the latest, rebased on current master
11:51 csharp heh
11:51 bshum senator: I don't really feel like we should review the mobile work in pieces.  Lots of what happened was done with the entire experience in mind and I've been finding it hard to say this is exclusively only benefiting one or the other.
11:52 csharp okay, as a tester, are there places I should poke especially hard?
11:52 bshum Even with the font-size stuff, that helps in the main catalog, but it impacted significantly how the mobile view worked as well with regards to how much finnessing we needed to deal with.
11:53 bshum csharp: The big thing I focused on with testing was ensuring that the original functionality was as close as possible.  Especially with regards to the login page, my account areas, advanced search, and results view.
11:53 bshum Those were the four big areas of change I think.
11:53 csharp okey dokey
11:53 bshum Oh, the searchbar.
11:54 bshum The biggest difference visually is the login page I think
12:58 ElliotFriend agreed. I'm thinking it is more a policy problem than evergreen problem.
12:58 csharp definitely ;-)
12:59 ElliotFriend i've not tried checking in non-checked-out items yet, what happens then?
13:00 csharp ElliotFriend: from my quick test, it puts the item into Reshelving status
13:00 dbs dbwells++ # overflow:auto does the trick
13:01 * csharp has supported EG for 5+ years but has never used it day-to-day ;-)
13:01 * rfrasur uses EG daily and loves it like a child.
15:46 bshum senator: So dbs and I discovered with tsbere's help that the compatibility mode was screwing with the mobile branch horrifically
15:46 bshum We added a meta tag to force it off
15:47 bshum When we turned it off, it looked much better with IE10 for me at least
15:47 senator and all looks pretty good now? i'm only in a position to test with 8, i think, right now
15:47 bshum I think he tested IE8 and it was fine
15:47 bshum senator: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=68d50​f2678eb6c558623bfd2c764bc51ec789d5f
15:47 bshum That's the commit dbs put for the meta tag
15:48 senator thanks
15:48 bshum If you toss that on your test system or use theory.biblio.org with IE8 to test; that'd be great.
15:48 dbwells I am on IE9.  It's functional, but with quite a few display regressions.
15:48 bshum I only have IE10 to test with
15:52 jeff free IE test VMs here: http://www.modern.ie/virtualization-tools
15:53 dbwells I can verify that IE10 displays much better than IE9.
15:53 jeff or http://www.modern.ie/en-us/vi​rtualization-tools#downloads for a barely-more-direct link
15:54 kmlussier Ugh! Git problems trying to push to dbs' branch.
16:01 jeff Oh hey. I just realized. The concept of Standards Override Bodies already exists. We call them Vendors, right?
16:02 jeff (I come to this realization as we are essentially negotiating a likely non-standard NCIP extension with someone else's vendor indirectly via IM and email)
16:05 * bshum takes his hands off the repo (took a few moments to rebase on top of kmlussier's stuff)
16:08 * senator tests ie, listens to that silly clicking sound a lot
16:10 * dbwells imagines the bug report which started that "The instructions said to click the link.  I kept pressing the mouse button, but never got any clicking..."
16:10 senator generally looks good, only noticing two glitches myself so far: green swatch on the right side of the basic search page, and also on the search results page (but not the record detail page). on the search results page, the white background basically ends at the right edge of the initially visible area (the area visible without horizontal scrolling). to the right of that is only green, and long
16:10 senator titlescut off there instead of wrapping

Results for 2013-09-23

12:48 dbs error was at auth_concerto.sql:76
12:48 senator jeff: hmm, i think setting pos in URLVerify.pm was just cargo cult
12:49 jeff senator: your self-awareness and honesty are appreciated. thanks! :-)
12:49 senator it looks to me, too, like nothing actually cares about the position of cbrebi rows. i guess they don't really have an intrinsic order
12:49 senator no prob. i would want to test that the link checker still works after any patch that loses that field, just to be on the safe side, of course
12:50 jeff i'm not proposing losing the field, just doing some recon as i consider adding a "sort by date added to bucket" feature somewhere
12:51 senator ah
12:56 dbs Fails on the second auth_concerto record, which is the first to contain unicode XML char entities
16:35 Bmagic so, fine_generator knows not to create those rows.... my question is which table is it using to decide weather or not to generate inserts into money.billing
16:35 jeff Bmagic: i think Dyrcona's advice is going to be most useful for you -- you may find that you need to clear the stop_fines and stop_fines_reason for the circulations in question.
16:35 Dyrcona Bmagic: action.circulation
16:35 jeff Bmagic: but please consider doing this on a test copy of the database -- it would make me feel much better. :-)
16:36 Bmagic do you mean the action.circulation - stop_fines (text) stop_fines_time ?
16:36 Dyrcona yep.
16:37 jeff Bmagic: yes. sorry, i stated their names incorrectly. :-)
16:42 jeff most/all of those are set at checkout time. changing the policy/matchpoints in the staff client will not affect existing checkouts.
16:42 Bmagic I see, would it be cleaner to wipe the rows and import from csv again?
16:43 Dyrcona Bmagic: maybe. how many rows are you talking about?
16:43 jeff Bmagic: depends on how you originally imported things. possibly. experimentation on a test copy may be required to answer that question -- lots of variables involved that are only specific to your situation.
16:43 Bmagic less than 1k
16:44 Bmagic stop_fines needs to be blank for fine_generator to go again?
16:44 Bmagic My test set shows "MAXFINES"
16:44 jeff i'm torn between the trouble of disabling triggers and deleting the rows from action.circulation vs just fixing things in place. i'd almost lean toward fixing in place for that smaller number.
16:44 Dyrcona both stop_fines and stop_fines_time should be null.
16:45 Bmagic GOTCHA
16:45 * Dyrcona leans toward agreeing with jeff. :)
16:45 jeff ideally you'd have a test copy where this issue was discovered, and could just re-do everything from a pristine copy, but ideals are elusive.
16:45 Bmagic yeah - the deal is, there have been 3 weeks of live updates to the db since the migration
16:45 jeff we had lots of "not apparent until in production" post-migration cleanup. :-)
16:46 jeff (and there are several present who may declare that a huge understatement)

Results for 2013-09-20

16:23 remingtron kmlussier: I was about to ask the same question
16:24 remingtron kmlussier: I don't want to step on toes, but as an experiment I posted my serials docs to bug 1207519
16:25 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1207519 in Evergreen "Serials 2.4 updated documentation needed" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1207519
16:25 remingtron so if you want to test the workflow and push it in... :)
16:25 kmlussier remingtron: Yes, that's right. Since I'm in git now, maybe I'll push it. :)
16:25 rfrasur remingtron, from my understanding, that's exactly what we were hoping to have happen.
16:26 kmlussier I was going to start adding new 2.5 features that need documentation to Launchpad.
16:26 remingtron sounds like a good test run
16:26 remingtron kmlussier++
16:27 kmlussier eeevil: FWIW, I didn't see your comments as negative.
16:28 rfrasur okay...sorry I couldn't look it over more.  Time to go do payroll.  Staff don't look kindly on late paychecks.
16:28 eeevil kmlussier: thanks, I struggle with tone in technical text discussions
16:45 remingtron hurray! kmlussier++
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17:44 bshum kmlussier++ # new menu for preferences looks reasonable so far.  Going to test further.
17:45 kmlussier DPearl++ for suggesting the approach.
17:46 kmlussier We need to figure out what we want to do with the tabs in the account holds and checked-out items interfaces.
17:46 kmlussier There are only two tabs, so the display isn't as terrible as the others.

Results for 2013-09-19

08:59 phasefx circ.holds.hold_has_copy_at.alert ?
09:00 phasefx and circ.holds.hold_has_copy_at.block
09:01 phasefx not quite the same
09:02 mmorgan mrpeters: Just tested this on our 2.3.7 system.
09:02 DPearl Is the hackaway in the same library room today?
09:02 mmorgan Attempted to place a hold on a bib for a patron who had a copy checked out and it was unsuccessful. Problem HOLD_ITEM_ALREADY_CHECKED_OUT with the option to override.
09:03 dbs bshum: yeesh, the 800px -> 850px has a very bad smell attached to it (the whole px-width thing); why not just put all of the select boxes on a single "line" and let them wrap to the appropriate width?
10:43 dbs In which case we could add a label + a border to group them, no matter how they break
10:44 paxed legend?
10:44 dbs legend-ary!
10:45 * rfrasur opens "Evergreen 2.4 Testing Documents" with fear and trepidation.
10:45 dbs Sorry. What I said was, with the current approach, we can remove the special <600px MOPAC CSS
10:45 paxed koha seems to use legends all over the place.
10:46 dbs because it's truly responsive, to whatever size of screen you have.
13:33 jeff and now it's up.
13:33 jeff > key can be any one of ISBN, OCLC, LCCN, OLID and ID (case-insensitive)
13:47 dbs Learning point: design for mobile first!
13:51 phasefx design for testing first, too, but at least one test tool makes use of accessiblity libraries for working the UI, so you can do both
13:52 jeff man. i thought isbns were messy. lccns and oclc nums are almost worse.
13:54 eeevil how upgrade-safe are the changes that have been made thus far?
13:54 rfrasur thanks bshum
13:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1221411 in Evergreen "Translating the basic search bar is troublesome" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221411
13:58 dbs That's kind of the whole point of a responsive design: it's one design.
13:58 rfrasur is this referring to font size?  sorry...audio is a little hit or miss
13:59 dbs We were evaluating them on their own merits. And even tested with IE (up to this morning, anyway)
13:59 dbs rfrasur: all of the changes
13:59 rfrasur oh...sorry...I meant the 12/14 conversation
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14:00 dbs paxed: nope
15:00 eeevil array in hand, use foreach; iterator pattern, use while
15:01 eeevil Dyrcona: also, switching to while means you can use the variable directly, no need to deref and re-ref
15:01 eeevil also, \@data will be faster (and less memory hungry) than [@data] ... though that may be a micro-optimization in your use case
15:02 Dyrcona eevil: I'll give it a try, though testing with ten records it won't be noticeable.
15:02 Dyrcona eeevil ^
15:02 eeevil indeed it wont
15:02 eeevil but, while++

Results for 2013-09-18

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09:38 remingtron EG 2.6 discussion collaborative notes, please edit! http://goo.gl/oGoSUI
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09:39 dbs bshum: okay, a couple of commits on there now; place hold / add to my list now live under the record metadata in results & are enabled for mobile mode
09:40 dbs btw, you'll be excited to know I _have_ tested this in IE8 :)
09:40 RoganH dbs: but how does it run in lynx?
09:40 dbs RoganH: pretty well, actually
09:40 RoganH dbs: if it runs in lynx I'm happy :)
11:00 phasefx is there a notes gdoc for today?
11:00 dbs phasefx: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y2RDoH​4E8IOlqHTaHRDmB9imK3iiFwOMt0TRs8hCSnA/edit
11:00 phasefx dbs: gracias
11:00 bshum dbs: Sweet.  I have to resync my test server with all these changes.
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11:09 Dyrcona Had I been 2.5 RM, it would have been a disaster. I
11:09 Dyrcona I've spent my summer on adding a new member and my bosses' priorities.
14:06 bshum dbs: Pushed to theory
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14:17 berick https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1220722
14:17 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1220722 in Evergreen "Additional (mostly) fiction bib records and copies for test data" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New]
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14:20 dbs bshum: another commit for you
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Results for 2013-09-17

11:00 * dbs notes that AngularJS is a framework largely built by Google
11:01 paxed i'm not convinced upgrading to newer xulrunner will help in the long run.
11:01 eeevil dbs: and dojo is heavily supported by IBM ... /me attempts to tug at dbs' heartstrings
11:01 dbs paxed: testing required for _any_ approach, obviously
11:01 paxed dbs: yeap
11:01 dbs eeevil: great reason to go angular :)
11:02 jeff i think what's being discussed is abandoning xul, then xulrunner, but at some point along the way we may support newer xulrunner before exiting it completely.
11:03 phasefx autohotkey
11:03 paxed if i get the chance i'll try to pinpoint the xulrunner bug (as i think it is a xulrunner one) that causes the js not get the locale
11:03 eeevil constrictor is coming back ... VM coming soon
11:03 phasefx very difficult to use as a general testing framework, but possible
11:04 jeff i'm inclined to forget testing the xulrunner staff client, and focus on testing and instrumenting the new web-based experiment.
11:04 dbs jeff++ # thus selenium
11:04 Dyrcona +elebenty!!
11:05 bott_otr AngularJS example:  function BeerCounter () on homepage.  What more do you need?
11:05 * phasefx thinks selenium would be great for testing web-based stuff.. horrified at the notion of putting selenium into xulrunner, if anyone is thinking of that
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11:06 jeff phasefx: too bad. we're hacking on putting selenium into xulrunner RIGHT NOW.
11:06 jeff (no, we're not)
11:07 jeffdavis kmlussier++
11:08 eeevil (see: wai-aria in tpac)
11:08 dbs eeevil: yep
11:11 jeff i am amused at the idea of testing a receipt printer shim by printing a few hundred receipts to a bank of printers
11:12 * dbs is torn between mobile catalogue and marc export
11:13 dbs marque export, to be more canadian
11:14 rfrasur nice
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11:19 bshum maybe tomorrow, we can get phasefx on the big screen to do a rundown of QA stuff :)
11:19 bshum (or others)
11:19 dbs dojo and angular, fwiw, each have fairly well-integrated or closely associated test frameworks (Dojo = DOH, or at least used to be; Angular = Jasmine and Karma)
11:20 * dbs half-raises a hand for mopac
11:20 * dbs half-raises a hand for marc export
11:21 jeffdavis Dyrcona: Sitka has some MARC export tools here - http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/git​web/?p=sitka/sitka-tools.git;a=tree
11:21 jeffdavis I didn't write that stuff and won't be in that hackaway session, but pointing it out in case it's of interest
11:21 * rfrasur would like to hang out in the mopac
11:28 dbs I'll poke Dyrcona later on today to hopefully kick export ideas around :)
11:28 bott_otr mobile catalog thought, via dbs:  http://bit.ly/18v26yf
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11:29 dbs I think my test server links are dead or at least no longer have that test CSS applied :/
11:30 dbs but I could probably get it back into shape
11:31 bott_otr1 I'm pretty sure I burnt my VM with that work as well
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11:31 eeevil bibtemplate!
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13:38 berick @quote add < Rogan_Ni> Star Wars
13:38 pinesol_green berick: The operation succeeded.  Quote #67 added.
13:39 berick eeevil: ahh, no, i wish
13:39 berick eeevil: just a slim set of fieldmapper stuff and some other test code
13:40 eeevil ah. cool. so some custom module rewrapping
13:40 tsbere Apparently hangouts doesn't like being logged in and active when the play store decides to auto-update it in the background. Go figure.
13:42 eeevil senator: does your group have a hangout too?
13:44 jboyer-home }
13:44 senator eeevil: negative
13:44 jboyer-home </style>
13:45 senator we're working on serials, but are less focused than the other groups, participating also in mobile opac discussion and bug testing/merging for now
13:45 berick eeevil: re, dojo, sort of.  for the code I'm using, i had to do surprisingly little
13:45 senator might lack enough cams
13:45 berick i'm loading opensrf js directly (via script) and it all works find
13:47 berick eeevil: i'd like to.  my only concern is getting websockets running on the server side is non-trivial at this stage
13:47 eeevil ah
13:47 senator Dyrcona: your group seems real serious over there. can you ping me when you've got a second where you wouldn't mind an interruption?
13:47 berick so it would limit who could test it..
13:48 rfrasur is the audio I'm hearing with regard to responsiveness the staff client discussion? or mopac?
13:48 * dbs assumes Dyrcona is in a group of one :)
13:48 phasefx rfrasur: I see you in the staff client one, fwiw

Results for 2013-09-16

11:53 rfrasur Have a nice walkaround
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12:01 pinesol_green [evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Inter-authority linking script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1e248d8>
12:12 eeevil bshum: I know you tested the initial bib browse stuff.  Did you also test https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1214464 ?  It's been a month, and no feedback from the greater community ...
12:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1214464 in Evergreen "Bi-directional authority enhanced bib browse" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New]
12:12 eeevil bah ... missed him
12:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] Billing UI style lost and longoverdue circulations - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0818801>
12:18 bshum eeevil: We didn't have any auth records in our system. So we couldn't test that.
12:19 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1206649 un-cancel received lineitems / copies - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4b472cb>
12:21 bshum Or at least I wasn't sure.
12:29 eeevil bshum: ah, ok, thanks

Results for 2013-09-13

11:13 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.  Dyrcona hates their/there.
11:13 bshum For LDAP goodness
11:13 Dyrcona @hate English orthography
11:13 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.  Dyrcona hates English orthography.
11:14 pinesol_green [opensrf|Galen Charlton] LP#1224647: remove two invalid tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=9028b02>
11:14 dbs there there, dyrcona, it'll be okay
11:15 dbs their they're, Dyrcona.
11:15 Dyrcona yeah...
12:03 gmcharlt ... which reminds me of the ongoing discussions in Koha-land about the LiveDVD
12:03 jbfink dbs: yeah, me too, and crouton solves the rest with lubuntu in a chroot. well, not the *rest*, but 98%, and that 2% is things I can't solve due to the chromebook kernel not supporting things.
12:04 jbfink dbs: Yeah, zero idea about production, but since I'm wrapping *everything* in a container -- including the DB and all that -- I can see it getting too large to be usable. But this is all just me farting around. We're not even running EG here or anything.
12:04 gmcharlt as it's challenging to communicate to folks who've set up a test system using one that it's not the ideal way to set up a production system
12:04 dbs gmcharlt: GIVE US THE CREDIT FOR THE LIVEDVD K THX
12:04 gmcharlt dbs: and yeah, there's that :)
12:06 * rfrasur pops in and sees a pertinent discussion and now must scroll back.
12:08 jcamins jbfink: if you need it to exit when the children exit so that docker can clean up, you could also just use wait, since everything has a pidfile.
12:08 jcamins Kind of late to the party, though, sorry.
12:11 jcamins gmcharlt: I feel like it's easier to explain with something like docker than with a livedvd because docker is explicitly developer-oriented, whereas the livedvd is more "this is how you install Koha on your computer."
12:12 gmcharlt jcamins: really?  From their home page... "The same container that a developer builds and tests on a laptop can run at scale, in production"
12:13 gmcharlt of course, as I know nothing of docker, it may well be that it's perfectly plausible (with enough effort) to use it for a production setup
12:13 jcamins gmcharlt: "Please note ... it should not be used in production."
12:13 jcamins (from "Learn more")
12:13 gmcharlt jcamins: mayhap they're trying to have their cake and eat it too?  both statements are on their website, and are on the face of it contradictory
13:00 * bshum sneaks in some lunch first.
13:02 dbs bshum: direct database updates methinks :)
13:02 bshum Could be lots of those too. We do like our direct SQL updates too :)
13:04 dbs eeevil: I think the idea is that the dockerized version will be created from latest OpenSRF/Evergreen master + underlying distro packages on demand, so always up-to-date, vs static VMs
13:05 dbs ergo good for testing perhaps
13:07 eeevil dbs: ah ... I figured installation into a doc would still have to be done by hand ... if it can be automated, super! (see: wheezy installer wanting to be merged :) )
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13:13 dbs jbfink can correct me if I'm wrong, of course

Results for 2013-09-12

12:46 tony_ paxed_ "thru"
12:46 dbs tony_: still need more of the failure log
12:47 tony_ _dbs okay hang-on let me pull the logs
12:47 dbs tony_: well, even just the last 10 lines that were printed to the screen
12:47 dbs eeevil++ # that looks better. now to give it a shot on our test server...
12:48 eeevil dbs: thanks, man!
12:52 tony_ dbs_ Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/07brltty Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: cat: read error: Is a directory Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: sh: you need to specify whom to kill Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/07preseed Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/07speakup Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/l
12:53 tony_ dbs_ Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: Disabling CD in sources.list Sep 11 18:10:22 finish-install: info: Running /usr/lib/finish-install.d/10clock-setup Sep 11 18:10:22 anna-install: Installing os-prober-udeb Sep 11 18:10:22 os-prober: File descriptor 3 (pipe:[1247]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 28714: log-output Sep 11 18:10:22 os-prober: File descriptor 4 (/dev/pts/0) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 28714: log-output
13:11 tony_ dbs what parts of this log do you want...
13:11 tony_ dbs can't believe how many times I looked at this file and just couldn't see it
13:13 eeevil dbs: wheeee.... I'll toss it on LP
13:13 tony_ dbs here you go: ## ----------- ## ## Core tests. ## ## ----------- ##  configure:2342: checking for a BSD-compatible install configure:2410: result: /usr/bin/install -c configure:2421: checking whether build environment is sane configure:2471: result: yes configure:2612: checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p configure:2651: result: /bin/mkdir -p configure:2664: checking for gawk configure:2694: result: no configure:2664: checking fo
13:14 tony_ configure:2680: found /usr/bin/mawk configure:2691: result: mawk configure:2702: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) configure:2724: result: yes configure:2842: checking build system type configure:2853: error: /bin/bash ./config.sub ./configure failed
13:14 dbs tony_: when you run ./configure --whatever, just the last screen or two of whatever gets printed to the screen. And ideally paste to http://pastebin.ca or the like
13:18 tony_ dbs did that work for you
13:21 eeevil dbs: separately, we should probably move the mrd join up to immediately after the core table
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16:35 pinesol_green [evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Allow translation of acq.cancel_reason texts. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=777798d>
16:43 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#856688 OUS to disable org unit as hold pickup lib - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=33206c4>
17:01 bshum dbwells++ # got the LDAP test script to authenticate with the right credentials.  Very handy, thank you sir!
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Results for 2013-09-11

11:10 Dyrcona dbwells: I plan to work on NCIP at the hackaway, but maybe.
11:10 kmlussier bshum++
11:10 Dyrcona bshum kmlussier Neither have I.
11:12 eeevil kmlussier: re https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1174860 ... it applies without conflict to rel_2_3. I have not attemtped to test its efficacy in that situation, but I don't think it will hurt. if reordering the query so that user input is last and widget-derived input comes first makes your 2.3 tests work, then yes, it should be backported
11:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1174860 in Evergreen "tpac: search filter groups don't play nicely with facets" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [Undecided,Triaged]
11:13 kmlussier eeevil: OK, thanks. I'll see if I can test it on a 2.3 system.
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11:20 dbs running_an_ssh_server_on_port_443++
11:58 bshum Sigh
11:58 jeff_ do you mean that they fall back to the user's preferences, or something else?
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11:59 bshum That's worth testing I guess
12:00 bshum I think if they don't have preferences, it defaults to no notification
12:00 bshum Which is confusing the library
12:00 bshum And the patrons too I guess
12:00 bshum Since they'll never find out they have holds ready for them
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12:03 dbs kraftsman-pac
12:03 bshum Pretty much :)
12:37 bshum Hmm
12:37 * tsbere assumes the backend code doesn't look that stuff up because if the frontend had, say, email deselected we don't want the fact it was the user's default to re-enable it
12:38 tsbere perhaps one solution would be the load the user's prefs into hidden fields in the kpac? At least then any defaults will apply...
12:41 jeff that would be the quickest short-term solution, assuming that the kpac handlers will do anything with it. a quick experiment would be to manually create the hidden fields with values in them hardcoded in the appropriate template file in a test environment.
12:42 jeff you might even find that the defaults / user settings have already been looked up and are available to the template with no handler-side modifications.
12:42 jeff but if they aren't already there, that would be your next step. :-)
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12:47 bshum Alright, I guess I'll start looking a little at that.
12:48 bshum Thanks jeff and tsbere
14:52 bshum Sigh
14:53 bshum Sorry jboyer-isl, not you.  That idea sounds worthy of being added to the list.
14:53 bshum Sighing about other things :)
14:53 jboyer-isl bshum: I was going to ask if the KPAC holds testing went poorly. :)
14:53 bshum jboyer-isl: I haven't even had time to get back to that yet.
14:54 jboyer-isl One of those days, then, eh?
14:58 senator jboyer-isl: i owe serials some attention and plan to be dbwells' best friend for some of that time, but as a #2 thing to slot in, yeah i would work on that
14:58 bshum General opinion... should we keep https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1086458 open?  Now that someone filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1224042 ?
14:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1086458 in Evergreen "Staff client memory leaks in 2.3 and later" (affected: 8, heat: 56) [High,Fix committed]
14:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1224042 in Evergreen "Staff client memory leaks in 2.4" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
14:59 bshum The 2.3 one has lots of things we've tested/tried
14:59 bshum But the 2.4 one is most recent and does have additional test information attempted by SITKA I guess.
14:59 * jeff frowns at 1224042
14:59 bshum jeff: That's kind of what I was thinking.
14:59 jboyer-isl senator: I can work on css/html later if I have to, so if time becomes available just let me know. I don't think I've really got enough experience with eg's guts to get going alone. (i.e. none at all with most of EGCatLoader...)
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16:35 hopkinsju bshum: I'm just now getting to look at the new site. Great job dude!
16:35 hopkinsju bshum++
16:35 bshum hopkinsju: Still a work in progress, but thank you :)
16:36 bshum dbwells: Is there anything in the logs that indicates why an LDAP authentication might be failing?
16:36 bshum I'm trying to set up a connection for one of our schools and now I'm not sure if it's the AD user creds I was given or improper test account credentials.
16:37 dbwells bshum: there are a number of different error messages.  One second...
16:38 dbwells bshum: looks like they are all debug level, and all start with "User login failed:".
16:39 bshum dbwells: Okay, so I need to bump up opensrf_core.xml to debug level (4?) and then try again
16:45 bshum Now I just have to figure out why that is and what it means... heh
16:45 senator no, thank you
16:46 dbs bshum: port may not be open... credentials could be bad... lots of possibilities with LDAP :)
16:46 bshum dbs: Yep, that's what I figured.
16:47 bshum I wish there was an easier way to test this stuff.  Stupid LDAP
16:52 jeff Dyrcona++ for JSONPrefs -- interesting
16:54 pastebot "dbwells" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "test LDAP bind credentials" (8 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/12
16:55 dbwells bshum: your LDAP stuff is failing at the admin bind stage, so I would use something simple like the paste above to test the credentials.
16:55 dbwells bshum: If you can bind, you will get a '0' to print out.
16:55 bshum dbwells: Thank you sir, that will be mighty helpful indeed.
16:56 dbwells bshum: obviously, you will need to change the hardcoded stuff in there to whatever your values are for hostname, authid, and password.
16:57 bshum dbwells: Yep, just tried that and got 49 back.  Which looks to be a basic bind error

Results for 2013-09-10

12:11 gmcharlt er, more of a TA role was what I had in mind :)
12:11 csharp heh
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12:33 paxed dbs: ok, i now definitely have that opensrf fix. and it doesn't help.
12:34 paxed dbs: on linux, it usually(?) works. on windows, not at all.
12:37 paxed would anyone be willing to test this for me? http://62.148.106.91/staff_client/ (use the _testing.exe one), and use that same server to log on. egadmin/egadmin
12:41 paxed this isn't good. because we should be deploying in few months ...
12:48 dbs paxed: um, what server?
12:49 paxed ^
12:50 paxed the ip
12:50 csharp paxed: testing... what should I be looking for?
12:50 paxed csharp: change the staff client language to finnish. see if patron registration is in english or in finnish.
12:50 csharp (btw, it's weird in an awesome way to see all this finnish!)
12:50 csharp ah - ok
12:54 csharp I'm creating a new profile to see if that changes anything...
12:56 csharp yep - still English
12:56 paxed both OpenSRF and Evergreen are current master
13:00 csharp paxed: if I can help test anything else, just let me know
13:00 paxed i have no idea how to proceed further.
13:02 csharp sorry, I haven't needed to know this, so I just don't know... at what point should fi-FI be loaded?
13:02 csharp is it done in the build process or on the fly somehow?
13:06 bshum paxed: Tested with Linux side and it also doesn't play nicely.
13:06 bshum (not that you need the extra confirmation I guess)
13:08 csharp okay, so this - http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.gi​t;a=blob;f=build/i18n/po/fm_IDL.dtd/fi-FI.po - is where the text is that *should* be loaded in the patron registration screen, right?
13:10 * csharp reads the GNU gettext overview, which answers his questions
13:11 csharp http://www.gnu.org/software/gette​xt/manual/html_node/Overview.html
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13:43 dbwells paxed: Maybe you already know all this, but I am trying to familiarize myself with how the translated IDL works.  In testing, I could get the translated IDL labels to show in the Patron Reg screen in Firefox.
13:43 dbwells Here is what I did:
13:44 dbwells 1) In about:config, I set the intl.accept_languages = fi-FI
13:44 dbwells 2) cleared cache, and browsed to http://62.148.106.91/eg/actor/user/register
13:46 dbwells The 'IDL2js' Apache module looks first in the query string for a locale, then in the 'Accept-Language' header.  Since I don't see the locale set in any IDL2js requests, I am assuming it is expecting the "Accept-Language" header to be set.
13:47 dbwells I don't know how that is supposed to be set in the staff client, but you could use about:config to set it there if needed.
13:48 paxed dbwells: setting the locale in the staff client sets intl.accept_languages
13:49 dbwells paxed: where does one set the locale in the staff client?
13:49 tsbere login screen
14:25 dbs paxed: you've added alert() or console.log() stuff to dojo/fieldmapper/IDL.js to check on the value of OpenSRF.locale?
14:26 paxed dbs: istr i did last week, and OpenSRF.locale was '' or something like that - but i could be mistaken
14:27 dbs That would be a helpful piece. As would seeing if that block of code where the dojo.xhr() call is made is even ever invoked
14:28 paxed dbs: ah, right - i think that piece of code was never executed in my tests.
14:32 paxed just put an alert in IDL.js before the dojo.xhrGet() to show OpenSRF.locale - and it just doesn't happen.
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14:35 jbfink hey people, help a sleep deprived dude out:
14:35 jbfink in http://evergreen-ils.org/docume​ntation/install/README_2_4.html section 9, in the eg_db_config thing, what is the right value for <port>?
14:56 bshum jbfink: Ah, interesting.
14:57 berick paxed: well, i'm only partly paying attention, but it sounds like the locale is not making it from the staff client to the IDL2js, correct?
14:58 eeevil paxed: I'm trying to reason in the general area of the problem ... to see if there's some foundational logic problem that we're just now discovering. I think dbwells may be onto something, though, with the oils:// scheme theory
14:59 * phasefx remembers testing the IDL2js patch for localization support and having it work, specifically with the patron editor
14:59 * eeevil wonders if there's some way to log incoming headers that apache sees
15:00 phasefx or, I vaguely remember that
15:04 berick paxed: is the patron editor what you're looking at?
15:23 berick the conversation from 14:15 (eastern) says IDL labels are now working..
15:23 jbfink now gotta figure out a programmatic way to change ejabberd passes, reflect changes in opensrf_core.xml, and also everything else I assigned a very lame password to.
15:24 moodaepo bshum++
15:24 paxed berick: the idl labels are working because i tested a hard-coding the locale in IDL2js.pm
15:24 berick oh, ok
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15:24 paxed berick: i'll remove that test, and restart eg &c to clear the cache
15:24 berick paxed: mind testing this?  user/berick/staff-web-ui-idl-locale
15:25 berick @ working
15:25 pinesol_green berick: Go away, or I'll replace you with a very small shell script!
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15:26 berick i don't know why accept-lang is not coming through, but that patch will take advantage of the already-parsed locale and relay it to IDL2js
15:52 paxed berick: https://62.148.106.91/eg/actor/user/register
15:52 paxed in firefox, the IDL are in english, the string already in the page are in finnish.
15:53 paxed you mean apache logs or osrfsys.log or what?
15:55 berick apache error logs (e.g. /var/log/apache2/error.log)
15:58 berick that's odd the IDL is english in FF.  the IDL link in the source is correct and returns finnish.  wonder if a clear-cache is needed in the FF test.  /me can't see the IDL strings in the page w/o a login
15:58 paxed berick: egadmin/egadmin
15:58 paxed it's a dev server
15:59 berick phasefx: thanks..  i'm getting finnish for the IDL labels there.
16:06 berick .label
16:07 berick hm, ok, something getting cached somewhere?
16:07 paxed ergh.
16:07 dbwells berick: Not sure if it helps (not following closely), but I was earlier able to use about:config in FF to set the intl.accept_languages = fi-FI manually, if that helps for testing.
16:07 berick ah, thanks dbwells
16:07 paxed well, the linux one shows everything in finnish. the windows one doesn't show the page strings, only idl labels, in finnish.
16:08 berick w/ that (fi-FI), it's all finnish for me (in FF)
16:25 berick ok, yeah, that should pretty much never be empty
16:25 berick if it's being used
16:26 berick error logs must be going somewhere else
16:26 jeff Unfortunately, testing with this implementation shows that the mandatory UniqueUserId/UserIdentifierValue is discarded and only the value of UserOptionalFields/VisibleU​serId/VisibleUserIdentifier is stored, and used for subsequent requests (in the UniqueUserId/UserIdentifierValue field, of course)
16:26 berick also, to confirm, the template source in the linux staff client shows the same lang/xml:lang of fi_fi ?
16:27 paxed berick: yes
16:27 berick crazy
16:35 paxed phasefx: interesting though that FF shows the page in Finnish, but the login texts in english, and the page lang/xml:lang = en_us ...
16:37 dbwells jeff: right, the second.  We didn't want users getting a new account whenever they got a new barcode.  If they would just "believe" the UniqueUserId we sent them, all would be fine.
16:38 * tsbere has at least one vendor he wants to use unique IDs from evergreen but can never seem to get anyone willing to talk to him about it - They assume that barcodes never change or something.
16:39 dbwells jeff: I think we even tested sending back nothing *but* the ID in the the lookupuser response, but it didn't matter; whatever the patron typed in to get looked up, that was their UniqueId for the rest of the interaction (based on my 5 months old memories, at least).
16:41 paxed berick:
16:41 paxed Sep 10 23:41:23 egdev apache2[31157]: [debug] EGWeb.pm(77): [client 62.240.71.4] egweb: messages locale = fi_fi
16:41 paxed Sep 10 23:41:24 egdev apache2[31166]: [debug] IDL2js.pm(79): [client 62.240.71.4] Invalid IDL2js locale ''; using en-US
16:42 jeff dbwells: yeah. i'm testing a little more, but i've seen nothing that would contradict that.
16:43 berick paxed: which test does that match?
16:43 berick which client/locale/etc, i mean
16:44 paxed berick: windows client, finnish. and shows english, of course.
16:44 berick paxed: hm, did you remove my working patch?
16:47 phasefx if I change the URL for the frame containing the patron editor to /IDL2js, I get a decidedly English set of javascript back

Results for 2013-09-09

07:08 kmlussier @later tell bshum 246 should be part of the alternative title index, unless the 2nd indicator is set to 1, in which case it should be part of the translated title index.
07:08 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
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07:10 kmlussier @later tell bshum In either case, I would expect it to show up in a browse search if the browse flag is set to true. But, no, I didn't test it specifically.
07:10 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
07:53 bshum kmlussier: Ah, cool thanks. I will ask Mary to check her examples for indicator flags.
07:54 bshum We'll have to look in production cause we're live on new master! :D
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08:02 kmlussier bshum: Somewhere in my notes, it says that the 246 with 0 in the 2nd indicator are not indexed as an alternative title. However, I'm not sure where I got that information. It doesn't line up with what I see here: http://www.loc.gov/standards/​mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html.
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08:12 bshum kmlussier: Hmm, thanks. I'll note that in my testing later today.
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08:26 bshum csharp++ GPLS++ awitter++
08:26 bshum For keeping the servers happy. :)
08:27 bshum (and flexible)
08:27 csharp ;-)
08:28 csharp also, after I solve a networking kink, we can get mundungus up and moving which will allow for community admins to administer the VM host
08:29 bshum Cool!
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09:53 bshum kmlussier: Looking at the mods32.sql
09:53 moodaepo bshum++
09:53 bshum It seems like the metabib_field draws from "alternative-nfi"
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09:53 bshum And that in turn does a test for ind1>0 to grab the right substring or not.
09:54 bshum Other than that, I don't see anything in the mods32 for 246 or alternative title info
09:54 bshum but I'm definitely not showing any 246 information for a particular bib record
09:54 bshum Kind of weirding me out
09:55 bshum For giggles, the ind2 is 0.  But even changing that to 1 or whatever doesn't do anything new.
09:55 bshum So I don't know why it doesn't work yet.
09:59 eeevil bshum: first thing I'd check is to be super-double-extra sure that config.xml_transform.xslt contains what you believe it to contain ...
10:01 bshum eeevil: I took a look at that and it seemed right.
10:01 bshum Or at least no different than what I saw in the .sql version
10:12 jboyer-isl I don't trust it at all, but a school wants options for their Macs. :)
10:13 bshum Not ready to build your own mac clients?
10:13 bshum (not that I fully trust that either)
10:14 jboyer-isl At least the xulrunner in the app bundle doesn't change on it's own. I think they were interested in the extension because we don't have the OS X client available on our manualupdate.html page. (Don't really want to commit to supporting it, because there aren't many Macs around here to try to test things)
10:15 jboyer-isl bshum: I also thought you were having some issues with newer clients on Macs? Was that a master thing, or is it all newer xulrunners?
10:16 bshum jboyer-isl: I don't have enough points of reference to test things.  By that I mean I haven't had time to spin up more versions of Evergreen like 2.4, etc. to see if the problems persist.
10:16 bshum I'll get to it.  Sometime.
10:16 bshum And yes, xulrunner on mac had some weird display bugs.
10:16 jboyer-isl Ah, ok. Maybe I'll fight with that at home sometime and see what happens.
10:17 bshum eeevil: I'm going to test that particular portion of the upgrade script again (the mods32 stuff) and see if it changes the xslt or generates some sort of better error telling me something
10:18 bshum Though I may wait till after I can get a snapshot of the production DB to try again
10:18 bshum So sometime tomorrow.
10:18 bshum Though I suppose I should see if this is the case on our previous test server.... presumably it'd be broken there too.
10:18 * bshum will look at that.
10:19 eeevil bshum: I will await your report
10:22 bshum Well that's just annoying
10:22 bshum The mods32 entry on our test server has the right xslt entry for alternative-nfi
10:24 bshum I don't know why this is weird.
10:27 bshum And for the life of me I can't seem to find a metabib.title_field_entry for the bib record anyways.
10:28 bshum On the test server, even with the proper xslt
10:28 bshum Well, there are entries, just not for the alternative title
10:30 * bshum goes back to do more digging
10:31 bshum Oh, what the heck
10:31 bshum Okay, I must be seeing things
10:31 bshum Cause now I'm seeing the alternative-nfi in the xslt entry for mods32
10:32 bshum I must have done a bad copy/paste eeevil, sorry for scurrying down the wrong path.
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10:33 bshum Doesn't solve my missing entry problem, but at least it wasn't the upgrade script gone awry
10:40 dbs jboyer-isl: MARC Editor won't work with recent versions of Firefox/XULRunner due to the removal of E4X XML support, so that much we know would be broken.
10:41 dbs bshum: all in all, the CSS change doesn't hurt the planet too much; still functional. Lemme know when things settle down.
10:44 bshum dbs: For me or for the site?  :P
14:54 bshum And then log back in and things seem fine again
14:54 bshum Very weird.
14:55 Dyrcona Vandelay? I never use it. Our catalogers curse it.
14:56 bshum yeah it's vandelay
14:56 bshum I'm pondering if this is either a side effect of the stuff we changed with dojo filters
14:56 bshum Or if this is a problem with the new vandelay defaults
14:56 bshum Slowly testing each thing
15:07 bshum Well it's not the autogrid stuff, not that I expected it to be.
15:07 bshum Alright, what else changed...
15:08 Dyrcona @blame Evergreen
15:08 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Evergreen musta been an Apple employee.
15:13 jeff_ bshum: vandelay can be run in a browser, where you might have more ready access to debugging. is it possible that you have an issue with a single backend system or brick?

Results for 2013-09-06

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07:36 eeevil @later tell csharp did I miss your thumbs-up on 2.4.2 smoke testing?
07:36 pinesol_green eeevil: The operation succeeded.
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07:48 eeevil jeffdavis: it's not backwards. given (A has_a B) the only side that can be null is the A side (you may have B rows that are not referenced by A rows).  you may want to test might_have there, if config.circ_matrix_matchpoint's column is nullable
07:49 csharp eeevil: you did miss my thumbs up, yes
07:49 eeevil csharp: ahh! good :)
07:49 csharp it was in the midst of a lot of chatter ;-)
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12:08 csharp tony_: what is the output of 'ps aux | grep ejabberd'?
12:10 tony_ Hi csharp I got: ejabberd  1392  0.0  0.0   7416   320 ?        S    11:53   0:00 /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.8.5/bin/epmd -daemon root     15256  0.0  0.0   8108   920 pts/0    S+   16:09   0:00 grep --color=auto ejabberd
12:11 csharp tony_: when I run that command on a running test server, I get this: http://pastebin.com/2ZaajJnV
12:12 csharp so it's possible ejabberd is not fully up and running
12:12 csharp you could try restarting ejabberd?
12:12 tony_ I tryied that and get the error that I first posted and I get the error when trying to shut it down as well
12:13 tony_ I give the command osrf_ctl.sh -l -a stop all and I get the following error:::::::  Exception: OpenSRF::EX::Jabber 2013-09-06T15:34:32 OpenSRF::Transport::SlimJabber::Client /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/OpenSRF​/Transport/SlimJabber/Client.pm:150 Jabber Exception: Could not open TCP socket to Jabber server: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Connection refused
12:19 csharp tony_: what is the output of '/etc/init.d/ejabberd restart'?
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17:28 bshum @later tell kmlussier Did anyone ever test having the 246 alternate title show up as part of browse search?  Apparently this doesn't seem to be a presently indexed entry.
17:28 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
17:28 bshum My guess is just tossing it in as another custom index, like variant title or whatnot would do the trick.
17:29 bshum @marc 246

Results for 2013-09-05

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08:45 paxed *insert meme* FIELDMAPPER  Y U SHOW ENGLISH?
08:47 dbs paxed: yeah, but I suspect your patch to make accept_languages hold multiple languages will break other things
08:47 paxed most likely.
08:48 paxed dbs: could you test if you can get fieldmapper to show finnish? user/paxed/oplibfi has our current changes.
08:49 paxed all i can do is short-circuit IDL.js so it loads the full xml every time, or whatever, and then it shows finnish.
08:50 dbs I'm just looking at dojo/fieldmapper/IDL.js, which uses the Accept-Language header to load the language of choice based on OpenSRF.locale. Maybe try testing your grid with that?
08:51 paxed but it never even goes that far. i've tried changing OpenSRF.locale in that to hardcoded 'fi-FI'
08:52 dbs curl -H "Accept-Language: fi-FI" http://localhost/reports/fm_IDL.xml
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08:57 dbs paxed: Check your Apache configs
08:57 Dyrcona Yeah, I love it when stuff like that happens.
08:58 rfrasur joined #evergreen
09:00 paxed i wonder if it's the different distro...
09:00 paxed ahwell, need to test moar.
09:00 Dyrcona Probably different package version, and one has a bug that the other doesn't.
09:01 paxed my home box runs the bleeding edge debian.
09:01 * Dyrcona gives libyaz4 on Ubuntu the hairy eyeball.
09:02 Dyrcona testing or sid?
09:02 paxed testing
09:02 paxed not quite insane enough for sid :P
09:03 paxed hm. curl -H shows it in finnish.
09:08 Dyrcona i18n ain't easy.
09:08 Dyrcona but it should be.
09:08 paxed *insert meme* THE NUMBER OF I18N PATHS ... IS TOO DAMN HIGH
10:20 csharp but it may be the order in which I did that that made it so I didn't recreate the problem
10:20 krvmga they didn't tell me the browser. i cant duplicate it either.
10:20 krvmga i thought i'd mention it here in case anyone else had run across something similar.
10:20 csharp oh - yeah this is FF23 on Fedora 19
10:21 csharp so probably not a good test case for run-of-the-mill patron usage ;-)
10:23 rfrasur (getting a book catalog from a company named "Firefly" makes me want to order all their books.  Just saying)
10:24 krvmga rfrasur: i could see where you would get a feeling of serenity from doing that.
10:24 rfrasur krvgma++ #you know it
10:25 krvmga lol
10:25 rfrasur browncoats++
10:25 krvmga rfrasur++
10:25 jeff rfrasur: in any event, after some research and testing, the fix was as simple as unchecking a single checkbox and restarting the selfchecks. :-)
10:25 rfrasur oh, and I also watched a documentary about the fan stuff as well.
10:26 krvmga yes, but do you have the complete book of scripts?
10:26 krvmga as some of us *cough* do
10:51 paxed (the boxes are set in a table - i know we'll want one of the boxes to be much taller than the others, so a rowspan for it would make sense)
10:54 paxed would looke like this: http://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/eg/asboxen.png
11:03 krvmga paxed: mine looks like this atm http://www.randompractice.com/adv_srch.png
11:04 paxed yeap, i'm just running ~master to test things, i know our people want to change it. i'm just thinking if i should add the configurability as a patch, instead of hard-coding.
11:05 paxed and not just pondering anymore, i'll add it to the bug 1220310
11:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1220310 in Evergreen "Set heights for advanced search boxes in config.tt2" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220310
11:14 * eeevil just noticed that relator codes are in the tpac as constants ... man, I wish those had been added as coded value maps instead :( (one less i18n path, useful outside the tpac (like, in the MARC editor, eventually), probably more benefits)
11:17 dbs patches welcome, dude.
14:05 yboston I think we can proceed for now
14:05 yboston BTW, I just sent an email to the DIG list with some survey related links for a topic I want to address at some point
14:05 krvmga got it
14:06 yboston #topic Updates from Content Coordinators
14:06 yboston We will continue having the content corrdinators try out the "#topic" AND "#info" Meetbot commands for their reports
14:06 yboston So content coordinators, please use "#topic" for the first post/line of your report
14:06 yboston then use "#info" for every other chat post/line of your report.
14:06 yboston for example...
14:06 yboston #topic this is a test report first post/line
14:06 yboston #info this is a test report second post/line
14:06 yboston Again, for everyone else participating in the meeting, don't worry about using any Meetbot commands, participate normally
14:07 kmlussier Sorry, I don't have anything to report again. I've been really busy the past couple months with other activities.
14:07 yboston no worries, you are leading the way for the next conference among other things
14:07 kmlussier But with the 2.5 beta release on the horizon, I'm sure I'll have more to report at the next meeting. :)
14:48 yboston except Kathy who has learned to do almost all (docs and dev)
14:48 yboston I don't think so,
14:48 kmlussier Ha! I know very little dev. But thank you anyway. :)
14:48 yboston BTW, another requirement for a successful DIG hack-a-way is to have a test server at the ready with the concerto data set pre-loaded
14:48 yboston also for when we try hacking at the conference
14:49 yboston DIG needs to "run heavy" we finally get rolling
14:49 yboston when we finally get going
14:50 kmlussier I can ask edoceo about his community server. I find that he's usually very responsive if anyone has trouble accessing it.
14:51 yboston he has been in the past, absolutely
14:51 kmlussier But it might not be a bad idea to have a multiple communtiy server to have available if one is down.
14:51 yboston to recap, it will benefit us as we try to increase participation to have ...
14:52 yboston simple tasks for those that want to help, so they hit the ground running
14:52 yboston we need to have test servers with the most recent version
14:52 yboston we also need to tag the simple tasks so that we have those that can be addressed with a copy of Microsoft word to create documentation
14:53 yboston and those that require just a little bit of asciidoc, etc
14:53 yboston in other words, these are the are some of the reasons there so few of us :)
14:53 yboston at this point
14:53 rfrasur for now
14:53 yboston :)
14:53 rfrasur it'll get better
14:56 yboston I have seen the debs go through a similar process, for example teaching new members to cut releases
14:57 yboston they had to go back and write down their procedures to make them reproducible by others
14:57 rfrasur I mean, of course, we want them...but if we can go out and teach people in our spheres...they can do some stuff and we can act as trainers/mediators.
14:57 yboston BTW, we are at the 57 minute mark
14:58 yboston #idea (suggested) requirement for a successful DIG hack-a-way is to have a test server at the ready with the concerto data set pre-loaded
14:59 kmlussier As far as finding a place to list documentation needs, I would like to suggest that, unless somebody is willing to volunteer time to evaluate the project management options that are available and come up with a recommendation,  we use our existing community tool - Launchpad. Becauswe otherwise we're going to keep talking about it and never getting the needs posted.
14:59 yboston #idea prepare lists of documentation "low hanging" fruit for new comers and/or attendees tot he DIG hack-a-way
15:00 rfrasur kmlussier: +1 so at least there can be some movement on it.  If, down the road, a better management tool comes along, we can evaluate it then.

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15:03 paxed any dev willing to help me out here with this fieldmapper thing? 'cause i'm all out of ideas.
15:03 paxed and i'm ready to go and do something drastic.
15:05 jeff paxed: have a link to a bug or other description?
15:09 mrpeters tater: last time i bug you --- you wouldnt happen to have a "bad" line of eg_stats.log that i could dummy in to test the script without killing services, would you?
15:09 paxed jeff: bug 1171875 and follow the links. i can push a branch with our modifications, so you can try it yourself.
15:09 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1171875 in Evergreen 2.3 "IDL2js needs locale support" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171875
15:10 paxed jeff: but it's not _that_ bug, as manually doing http://localhost/reports/fm_IDL.xml?locale=fi-FI works just fine. it's just staff client showing only english texts for strings that come via fieldmapper.

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