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Results for 2015-07-14

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08:56 mmorgan Good morning!
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09:24 lualaba Hello problem with running staff client 2.8.2 " there was an error testing this hostname" ping working wit out any issue, also add ssl Exception not help any idea?
09:24 lualaba a need to create Workstation to access from web
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09:44 kmlussier lualaba: Sorry. I don't have any ideas on my end other than adding the SSL exception, which you already did, and making sure you entered the domain correctly, without the http://. Maybe somebody else will have ideas as people start to trickle in this morning.
09:46 tsbere Did anyone build the XUL client? If it was being built for "web client testing" someone may have skipped the full XUL client steps.

Results for 2015-07-13

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10:54 csharp well, they can for us, so I'm trying to rule out the possibility that this is an EG bug or something in our setup
10:54 * bshum can double check
10:54 csharp bshum++ #thanks!
10:56 bshum csharp: When I use an expired staff account, I can still log into the staff client with it.
10:56 bshum That's fun.
10:56 bshum At least on one of my master test servers.
10:56 csharp excellent - it's not just me!
10:57 bshum So I presume that qualifies your 2.7+
10:57 csharp @bugforeveryoneorjustme.com
12:56 bshum mmorgan++ # That sounds like it could be a culprit...
13:07 jeffdavis It's a good suggestion, but the session itself seems fine.  With these steps: (1) login, (2)  pull authtoken for login from logs, (3) attempt offline circ upload and get the NO_SESSION error, (4) do 'request open-ils.auth open-ils.auth.session.retrieve "AUTHTOKEN"' via srfsh and I can retrieve the session.
13:08 jeffdavis Sorry for the incoherent grammar :)
13:12 jeff jeffdavis: check your offline-config.pl to ensure that it is valid and correct, not pointing to an old opensrf_core.xml?
13:14 jeff jeffdavis: i would expect things to fail before that error if you had a missing config, but if the config is valid, but for testing and not production, or similar... the memcached instance isn't going to have your session token.
13:16 berick and make sure you don't see this near the top offline.pl:
13:16 berick do '##CONFIG##/offline-config.pl';
13:17 berick ##CONFIG## is replaced during build
14:05 jeffdavis dbwells: Yes, I am seeing "No user in the cache exists with key oils_auth_" (i.e. with ses missing) after clicking "Upload"
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14:23 dbwells jeffdavis: This might be an odd question, but what do you see for the offline GET requests in the Apache access log?  Is 'ses' missing there, too?  (If not, maybe this is a quirk with the Apache config.)
14:24 jeffdavis ses is present and correct on the GET requests.
14:29 jeffdavis hm, no, I take it back. When I click Upload, there is a GET /cgi-bin/offline/offline.pl which is missing cgi params, although they are present for other requests to offline.pl
14:33 jeffdavis When it works on a test server, I see GET requests to upload_xacts.xhtml and upload_xacts.js, then POST /cgi-bin/offline/offline.pl, then  GET /cgi-bin/offline/offline.pl with cgi params.
14:33 jeffdavis When it fails in production, I don't see the post, and the subsequent GET /cgi-bin/offline/offline.pl is missing CGI params.
14:40 Bmagic csharp: more on the invoces: We send a purchase order for a specific provider+vendorcode. The EDI goes to Baker and Taylor with that embedded. The invoice that we get back does not contain the specific vendorcode and therefore it's up to Evergreen to decide which to link.
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14:42 Bmagic csharp: presumably Evergreen has all of the information in order to link it back to correct vendor code because the invoice mentions the PO number. And the PO has the vendorcode. But on my server, it's linking it back to a different vendorcode that seemly random

Results for 2015-07-12

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15:23 _robbat2|irssi hey, has anybody requested a fixed UID from Debian for the OpenSRF user? perhaps as part of the prior packaging GSoC?
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Results for 2015-07-11

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Results for 2015-07-10

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07:32 jeff @coffee everyone
09:33 * Dyrcona taps foot in annoyance.
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10:09 jboyer-isl Dyrcona: for simple tests, you could consider using the Evergreen migration tools to just pull out one or two of your libs data for quicker restores. (depending on your wait time, that is.)
10:09 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: But, we use this database for training library staff, so it is nice to have it up to date with production from time to time anyway.
10:10 jboyer-isl Oh yeah, you did mention it was a training system. I was thinking just a quick test server setup.
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10:35 Dyrcona heh. After you login, you get a message that you may need a special password, i.e. different from the production server.
10:38 Dyrcona And LookupUser works, so I s'pose the configuration is correct.
10:49 kmlussier Dyrcona: Good luck with the testing. I hope it goes well!
10:50 Dyrcona kmlussier: Thank you. I hope it doesn't eat up the whole of my "vacation."
10:50 kmlussier Dyrcona: I hope not either.
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11:57 berick jboyer-isl: yep
11:58 jboyer-isl Ah. I wasn't interested enough to look into it and we pull sip logs out by machine name now.
11:58 jboyer-isl Fixing the actual issue would be nice though.
11:59 berick yeah, it was always just a minor annoyance for me, until recently when we migrated to ubuntu (which included all kinds of packaage updates, etc.) the PID was no longer appearing in the SIP syslog output
12:00 berick which makes tracking conversations practically impossible
12:00 berick SIP enables the syslog pid format, but opensrf does not, so it was getting clobbered
12:01 berick testing my patch now on our test sip server fixes both issues (format and destination)
12:05 berick now just need to teach SIP to read syslog_facility from oils_sip.xml instead of hard coding it
12:06 jboyer-isl berick++
12:06 jboyer-isl Getting things done over there.
12:14 dbs berick++
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14:12 nuentoter quick question, anyone running ubuntu and evergreen on a vmware/virtualbox?
14:13 bshum nuentoter: for testing, virtualbox, sure.
14:13 bshum For production? No.
14:13 nuentoter ok thats what i wanted to know ty very much sir
14:13 bshum We do use other virtualization for applications
14:13 bshum Err, okay then.

Results for 2015-07-09

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17:57 gsams mmorgan: Not that it's really anything to base things on, but I run Windows 7/8 on my desktop/laptop respectively.  I can't really get used to most of the linux distros, and I rely too much on my current workflow to make that sort of change just yet.
18:01 gsams I do like all of the operating systems that I've tried for various reasons though, not that there have been a lot of them
18:04 dbwells bshum: just curious, what do you not like about PuTTY?

Results for 2015-07-08

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12:19 kmlussier Sigh...apparently I already had a set of negative balance use cases posted at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=scratchpad:negative_balances that are not the same as the test cases I shared last week, but are similar enough that I probably didn't need to create 2 pages.
12:20 kmlussier I don't even remember writing up those notes.
12:20 bshum kmlussier: Good times :)
12:22 kmlussier The first page actually has a lot more differences in how libraries might configure their settings, but I can't say I tested all those scenarios. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=qa:billing_test_cases is an accurate reflection of what I tested.
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12:31 Dyrcona Too many settings, says the guy who usually solves problems by coding a new setting or three.
12:33 bshum YAOUS+-
13:30 Dyrcona RoganH++
13:30 RoganH rfrasur: myself included
13:31 rfrasur and the blissfulness of youth....and the fact that good days are WAY longer when you're young (someday that'll be quantifiable without a whole lot of calculus)
13:31 kmlussier Hmmm...In Firefox, if I try to access the web client login screen on either webby or on Dyrcona's test server, I get a blank screen below the navigation menu. In Chrome, I can pull up the login page properly on webby, but not on Dyrcona's server.
13:31 jeff though i'm amused that my environment is resulting in bullets that look like <B7> in my pager...
13:31 kmlussier Does anyone else have trouble getting to a login page on webby?
13:32 jeff kmlussier: webby's cert seems to have expired 2015-06-27
17:01 kmlussier The "Require at least one address for Patron Registration" OU setting appears to work when doing a new patron registration. It prevents you from clicking the x that removes the address fields from the patron registration form.
17:01 kmlussier However, when you edit a patron record, there is nothing that stops you from removing all addresses from that record.
17:01 kmlussier Is that expected behavior?
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17:02 kmlussier I'll leave you all to ponder that question while I sit in afternoon rush hour traffic. :)
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17:11 jwoodard My Evergreen question for the day. I am trying to create a Copy Location. I have created it but it is not showing up.
19:34 kmlussier miker: Ah, ok. Gotcha!
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21:57 _robbat2|irssi tsbere: i had a further idea re the rewritemap discussion we had
21:58 _robbat2|irssi specifically, apache2.4 has a dbd/fastdbd type for rewritemap lookups
21:58 _robbat2|irssi so I could concieveable put the actual settings into the database
22:00 _robbat2|irssi fyi, i'm flipping the DNS for s.libraries.coop to use the main haproxy instances
22:00 _robbat2|irssi (it was using the early haproxy test envs on the ceph cluster before)
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Results for 2015-07-07

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12:19 _robbat2|irssi RewriteRule ^/eg/opac/images/(.*)$ /srv/openils/var/skins/%{ENV:skin}/opac/images/$1 [L]
12:20 _robbat2|irssi PerlAddVar is evaulated at server startup time, while SetEnvIf/RewriteRules with expressions are evaluated at request runtime
12:20 _robbat2|irssi i can't find anything like PerlAddVar that fires at request runtime
12:21 jeff There isn't a SetEnvIf equivalent for PerlAddVar, but in theory you could modify EGWeb.pm to push an ENV var as the "first" template path if it was set. Other than usual testing, I'd also look to make sure that such a change wasn't going to break the new template caching.
12:26 _robbat2|irssi hmm
12:26 _robbat2|irssi tell me more of this template caching quickly, as that would be a concern
12:27 _robbat2|irssi i'd also have to make sure that it took the Env from the request, and not spinning up a perl interpreter earlier
15:47 pdot2 2015-07-07 15:45:57 EDT STATEMENT:  INSERT INTO actor.usr (profile, juvenile, usrname, claims_returned_count, family_name, first_given_name, expire_date, id, claims_never_checked_out_count, net_access_level, ident_type, active, last_xact_id, passwd, barred, master_account)
15:47 pdot2 VALUES ('2', 'f', '21187005375399', '0', 'Derp', 'Herp', '2018-07-07T00:00:00-04:00', '16', '0', '1', '1', 't', '1436298356.88058325.689549189485', '3373', 'f', 'f')
15:50 jeff pdot2: the lack of home_ou violates a database constraint. i suspect you may need to run autogen and restart your staff client, if the user editor is trying to create users without any home library set.
15:55 pdot2 ah, is a depth of 2 required for home branch?
15:58 pdot2 it does state the my default (drop down) values for home library are not valid.
15:58 pdot2 will try a complete db wipe (yay testing) and recreating hirearchy
15:58 jeff have you modified your default org unit types?
15:59 pdot2 yes, and ran autogen.sh, restarted apache2
15:59 pdot2 and restarted my client
16:09 Dyrcona Seeing a diff of the changes would be handy, but we're basing it on quality score.
16:11 Dyrcona So, maybe I'll add a wishlist bug later.
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16:15 yboston don't judge me ;)
16:15 yboston I once had to diff some marc inside of two sperate EG servers. I used vimdiff supercat_url1 supercat_url2
16:16 yboston like so...
16:16 yboston vimdiff http://catalog.berklee.edu/opac/extras/​supercat/retrieve/marctxt/record/12481 http://berklee-test.evergreencatalog.com/opac/​extras/supercat/retrieve/marctxt/record/12481
16:16 yboston worked great
16:17 Dyrcona That could almost work in my case.
16:17 Dyrcona yboston++
16:17 Dyrcona Anyway, we've decided to replace MARC on records where the quality dropped by 10 or more.

Results for 2015-07-06

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16:41 pdot2 ah, my first real install issue, it looks like websockets didn't come with mpm_prefork.load in /etc/apache2-websockets/mods​-available/mpm_prefork.load: No such file or directory.
16:42 pdot2 I'm assuming copying it from /etc/apache2/mods-available would be bad?
16:43 Dyrcona pdot2: You only need websockets to test the experimental web staff client. Also, there are special instructions.
16:44 Dyrcona Have you done these steps, yet: http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/i​nstall/OpenSRF/README_2_4_0.html#_option​al_websockets_installation_instructions
16:45 pdot2 Dyrcona: ah, I've been building from http://evergreen-ils.org/documentati​on/install/OpenSRF/README_2_4_1.html so far, but would like to try out the web client (might just be the future killer-feature for our VDI infrastructure.
16:46 Dyrcona The 2.4.1 README has the same section at the bottom.

Results for 2015-07-05

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Results for 2015-07-04

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Results for 2015-07-02

09:12 * mmorgan inhales the aroma, returns the favor:)
09:12 mmorgan @coffee kmlussier
09:12 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of People's Daily Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier
09:12 kmlussier :)
09:13 kmlussier I could use some coffee. Testing the negative balances branch this morning.
09:13 mmorgan That definitely requires coffee!!
09:21 jwoodard I do not even know who our patrons keep getting negative balances.
09:22 jwoodard Every week there are a few more. I think EG is just messing with me...
14:22 * kmlussier will do her best to break old habits.
14:22 yboston I would still send another reply to that thread to anounce the change or send in a new email
14:22 remingtron yboston: sure, give me that action item
14:22 yboston also, I would have liked to get feedback from Robert about testing out the change
14:22 remingtron yboston: and another for phase 2: testing
14:22 yboston remingtron: I will give you an action item
14:23 yboston OK
14:23 yboston #action remingtron will send out an email to the Dig list anouncing that a new file extension will be used for AsciiDoc files
14:24 remingtron #info The dev docs already include one .adoc file that I added
14:24 yboston did you want to right out the testing action item or feed me your suggestions?
14:24 remingtron #link http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/de​v/_library_settings_editor.html
14:24 remingtron yboston: sure...
14:24 yboston sorry, that should have said "write out"
14:25 yboston remingtron: also,w ould you liek help in the testing? should we have a seconf action item to reach out to robert?
14:25 remingtron remingtron will begin testing use of and conversion to the .adoc extension
14:25 remingtron I'll email Robert
14:25 yboston #action remingtron will begin testing use of and conversion to the .adoc extension
14:25 remingtron as part of my testing phase
14:26 remingtron and I'll email the list if I want help, or when phase 3 is ready
14:26 remingtron (which is probably the big switch)
14:26 remingtron I won't do anything crazy without warning :)
14:26 yboston anything else on this topic?
14:28 yboston OK, moving on
14:28 yboston #info 4) all update the 2.8 outstanding features list; remove names of those that cannot continue working on assignment; post completed or incomplete files
16:30 jwoodard I lose a little more of myself each time I close the reports interface.
16:32 alynn26 its all in how you pull the data out.  Sometimes you get what you want, and sometimes you go back and get more than you want to get what you want.
16:32 alynn26 Well it is a love hate relationship.
16:35 kmlussier I know people who love reports. They just don't spend much time in here.
16:36 kmlussier @later tell Dyrcona I finall got around to posting those billing test cases I promised you. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=qa:billing_test_cases
16:36 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
16:36 kmlussier Oh, so sad to see a typo in an @later and to have no way to fix it. :(
16:37 mmorgan I think those who have access to query the database directly generally don't like having to dig through the extra layers in the reporter to get the data they need.
17:11 gsams @love reports
17:11 pinesol_green gsams: The operation succeeded.  gsams loves reports.
17:12 gsams because it serves an important purpose that I stand behind
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17:12 bshum Actually that's odd, it should have changed status to checked out or available in that case.
17:12 bshum I've never seen an item have a status of reshelving where it was checked out to someone.
17:12 bshum Maybe bad SQL gone awry?

Results for 2015-07-01

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14:29 csharp @dunno add Ba ba ba dook Dook DOOK!
14:29 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Dunno #40 added.
14:34 jboyer-isl Quick Q for those with some Composite Coded Value Maps experience: Can a record attribute be the root of the tree, or does the root have to be a boolean operator? I've got some definitions that only allow a single value, but they don't display an expression in the editor.
14:35 Stompro Dyrcona, I just assigned myself to LP:1312297 so I would put in my next bug fixing branch, if it is higher priority then maybe someone else should grab it.  I'm not sure when I'll have time to test again.
14:35 jboyer-isl If that's just a display quirk I don't care, but now is the time to go back and make them all children of an OR or something like that if need be.
14:36 Dyrcona Stompro: That is basically what I planned to ask you about.
14:40 Stompro Drycona, I'll unassign myself, so someone else can grab if they have a chance.  I'll still try and test it when I have a chance, if someone doesn't beat me too it.
14:41 Dyrcona Stompro: OK with me.
14:41 Stompro And one agenda item done, <check> :-)
14:42 Dyrcona Mostly. I changed it, but they're really up for discussion.
14:44 Dyrcona Meeting starts in about 15 minutes.
14:46 dbwells jboyer-isl: I just created a quick test case, and it seemed to work alright, so I think it is just a display quick.
14:47 jboyer-isl dbwells: Thanks!
14:47 jboyer-isl dbwells++
14:48 dbwells s/quick/quirk/
15:18 Dyrcona Thanks to berick for doing the work. I'm sure it was fun deleting all that code!
15:18 * miker shed a single tear for the backend js
15:19 Dyrcona I recall occasionally having problems getting SpiderMonkey to install, so I won't cry. :)
15:19 jeff berick++ also for bug 1312297 which I suspect is close to next. I'm reviewing/testing -- any comments on need for tests and/or release notes? Release notes seems like a "for certain".
15:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1312297 in Evergreen "time to remove the old web-based selfcheck interface" (affected: 4, heat: 18) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1312297
15:19 Dyrcona jeff: Yes, that's the next "topic"
15:19 jeff Ah. I would probably know that if I had the agenda up. Sorry!
15:23 Dyrcona #action jeff will look into removing old self check interface.
15:23 Dyrcona I'll review.
15:24 Dyrcona Though, I think some of it now is just review, isn't it?
15:24 jeff And, does anyone have input on tests/QA for these mostly web/js removals?
15:24 jeff selfcheck is review and release notes (which i can craft). i think berick's done the work already.
15:24 Dyrcona #action jeff will look at removing old JSPAC code.
15:24 Dyrcona yep. berick++ again.
15:25 Dyrcona As for tests, I'm not sure what one could except make sure basic functionality of other parts of Evergreen still works.
15:26 Dyrcona jeff++ for taking those two on.
15:26 jeff That's good enough for me. If something makes sense to test, I'll do it, but won't stress about the RM not accepting removal of jspac due to lack of tests. :-)
15:27 Dyrcona The old self check should be fairly simple, 'cause I don't think anything else really touches it.
15:27 Dyrcona heh
15:27 jeff I have at least one other question that I might hit the general/dev list with -- removing lots (and LOTS) of images that have been in the web dir for a while that have only ever been used in "stock" by things like jspac/craftsman.
15:31 yboston Would a quick warning email to the general list complement the mention in the release notes?
15:31 jeff "hey, this still is no longer installed -- if you have it kicking around and you don't want to do a clean install of your web dir you might want to clean things up"
15:31 kmlussier +1 to removing them and addressing it through release notes
15:32 jeff yboston: possibly a heads-up after the work is tested and merged and the release notes are crafted. less uncertainty that way.
15:32 jeff yboston++ i'll make a mental note
15:32 Dyrcona #agreed release notes are a good idea.
15:32 Dyrcona :)
15:32 bshum Dyrcona++ :)
15:43 jeff miker: i think i found at least three sprintf javascript implementations, one of which was added, then the code using it was removed, then LATER code re-used the sprintf implementation that had been left behind... :-)
15:44 Dyrcona #info Query dbwells on the conditional negative balances work.
15:44 Dyrcona So my questions for dbwells are do you think this could get polished up before the alpha?
15:44 Dyrcona And, would you like some help writing tests, etc.?
15:45 kmlussier I have put a deadline in my calendar to complete another round of negative balance testing by Wednesday. It's looking promising at the moment.
15:45 jeff I'd like to volunteer to assist where possible/useful on testing and/or tests.
15:45 Dyrcona I am also volunteering to help with whatever needs done at this point.
15:46 Dyrcona I started the mess and feel the least I can do is help to get it done.
15:46 dbwells the bug is pretty much as stated on the branch, i.e. ready for eyeballs, and still needing tests.  We've done the work of getting at least one interesting test to load, so we're still hoping the others will flow from that more easily, but haven't gotten back to it yet.
15:46 dbwells When is the alpha, again?
15:46 Dyrcona The alpha is the 29th of July, so exactly 4 weeks from today.
15:47 Dyrcona We've traditionally accepted new features up to the beta cut-off.
15:47 dbwells I think it can make alpha, barring some major setback.
15:48 jeff Dyrcona++ dbwells++ kmlussier++
15:48 kmlussier I think it would be nice to shoot for alpha. If the timeline slips a bit, then, it isn't pushed off to another release. And it gives more people to play with scenarios that may have been missed in earlier testing.
15:48 dbwells I'll plan to push whatever tests I have on next Friday (even if it's still just the one), then others can more easily add to it at that point.
15:48 Dyrcona dbwells++ kmlussier++
15:48 Dyrcona For the logs, the beta is planned for August 19.
15:48 dbwells Of course, if people just want to jump in with tests from scratch, I don't oppose that in any way, either :)
15:49 kmlussier When it gets in, we can have a nice IRC party where I will gladly hand out desserts to everyone involved in the project. Virtual desserts, of course.
15:49 bshum Hehe
15:49 kmlussier See how I said 'when' and not 'if.' :)
15:50 Dyrcona I think an action or info should come out of this.
15:50 dbwells I'll action myself for the test stuff.
15:50 kmlussier Dyrcona: You can give me an action item to finish my testing by next Wednesday.
15:50 kmlussier Or I guess I can action myself.
15:50 Dyrcona Ok.
15:50 Dyrcona you can add the actions yourselves.
15:51 dbwells #action dbwells will hopefully write more neg balances tests and push whatever he has ready on July 10
15:51 kmlussier #action kmlussier to complete her testing on the negative balance branch by July 8
15:51 * kmlussier works best under deadline pressure.
15:51 Dyrcona deadlines++
15:52 Dyrcona #action Dyrcona will follow up with negative balance branch after July 10.
15:52 * dbwells works only under deadline pressure ;)
15:54 Dyrcona #topic New and Old Business
15:54 Dyrcona So earlier we said there were some action items from the face to face meeting that needed to be added.
15:55 Dyrcona Now's the time to do that.
15:56 yboston At the meeting we spoke about a test day, and Liam started the planning on that
15:56 yboston he sent out one email about it
15:56 jeff #action jeff will articulate ideas on merge vs cherry-pick and start discussion/proposal on dev list
15:58 Dyrcona yboston: I feel iffy giving a vague action to someone who isn't here.
15:58 jeff with Liam not here to take an action, perhaps an info pointing out that planning is under way?
15:58 yboston I can follow up with him, I already followed up with him last week
15:58 jeff now THAT sounds like an action item with your name on it. ;-)
15:59 Dyrcona #action yboston to followup with ldw about a testing day.
15:59 Dyrcona :)
15:59 Dyrcona should probably be a space between follow and up, but English....
15:59 miker jeff: do your ideas boil down to merg-- ? ;)
16:06 bshum jeff: I know, I jinxed it.
16:06 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Guatemala Pandora Pacamara Medium-Light Roast, and sends it sliding down the bar to egbuilder
16:06 Dyrcona Heh.
16:06 kmlussier Do we have a Launchpad tag for code that needs tests?
16:06 Dyrcona No, we don't.
16:06 bshum kmlussier: We can add one, simple enough for "needstests"
16:07 jboyer-isl "unproven"
16:07 Dyrcona Just a bit... ;)
16:07 jeff "worksintheory" :-)
16:07 kmlussier heh, i like worksintheory
16:07 Dyrcona Although there's a famous line from Knuth: Beware of bugs in the following code. I have only proven it correct and not tested it.
16:08 jboyer-isl In the interest of not waffling too much, +1 to needstests
16:08 Dyrcona Well, that could be something to discuss at the next dev meeting or on the list.
16:09 * bshum already added it, but yes, probably
16:12 miker Dyrcona++ # for meeting
16:12 * miker 's favorite bugzilla status: WORKSFORME
16:14 jeff ``If you close a JIRA ticket for a bug in a WatchKit app that you can’t reproduce the resolution status should be “Not on my watch.”''  https://twitter.com/_Jordan​/status/593231842339201026
16:17 kmlussier Is bug 1174498 something that would need a test before going in?
16:17 Bmagic did someone pass me a beer?
16:17 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1174498 in Evergreen "Payment by billing type breakdown" (affected: 7, heat: 38) [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1174498
16:17 kmlussier Bmagic: Yeah, that was me. You're welcome. :)
16:56 Dyrcona Stompro++
16:56 Dyrcona I meant to copy/paste my blog post about scripted circ going away and sending it to the general list, but time got away from me.
16:56 Dyrcona Perhaps tomorrow.
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16:57 kmlussier I still need to write a blog post on Bug Squashing Day. And on our ALA Exhibit.
16:58 Dyrcona We have a pile of action items from today's meeting.
17:00 Dyrcona Well, time for me to go.

Results for 2015-06-30

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15:21 jboyer-isl Feels like one of those comes around every year. (did you mean Evergreen's Xth birthday/anniversary? ;) )
15:21 rfrasur Oh...yes.  10th.
15:21 rfrasur sorry...doing too many things.
15:24 remingtron According to evergreen-history.txt, the project was birthed in 2004 as a one-year test, OpenSRF 0.1 and Evergreen alpha were released in 2005, and Georgia PINES went live on Evergreen in 2006.
15:24 remingtron http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=history.gi​t;a=blob;f=evergreen-history.txt;h=3f8fd41​47bf3c58aa3f504480bef8e25078dd9a2;hb=HEAD
15:24 jboyer-isl Seems to depend on if you want to know how old the oldest code is or when it was put into production use.
15:24 jboyer-isl Ah, like remingtron says. :)
15:24 rfrasur Production.  Oldest code won't mean much to most librarians.

Results for 2015-06-29

15:06 Dyrcona heh
15:07 Dyrcona I don't have wifi problems in the new offices.
15:07 Dyrcona And, if I plug in, I've got gigabit to the servers down the hall.
15:08 Dyrcona We tested that this morning because the building people wanted to make sure that the fiber was working properly.
15:16 jeff that's somewhat troubling.
15:16 Dyrcona What's somewhat troubling?
15:17 jeff though in one scenario could be encouraging (this run tests clean, can you verify?)
15:17 Dyrcona Well, yeah, we actually tested it last week.
15:17 jeff it would be troubling if they were relying on your test as the only diagnostic. :-)
15:18 Dyrcona tsbere came over and they tested it Thursday, but didn't do any speed tests.
15:18 Dyrcona The building's engineer wanted us to do a speed test Saturday, but he had to leave before we had the right servers up.
15:31 Dyrcona Does NO_CHANGE mean that the copy check in failed?
15:31 jeff i believe it can mean that the copy was already checked in.
15:32 jeff SIP checkin considers SUCCESS and NO_CHANGE to be acceptable, and anything else is a failure.
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14:30 berick almost 1/3 of the table
14:30 * berick will open a bug for that one too unless i'm missing something
14:34 jeff berick: do you have the internal flag ingest.metarecord_mapping.preserve_on_delete set to true?
14:35 berick jeff: it's disabled in master + concerto, where I tested it first.  checking our DB...
14:35 jeff berick: because with that at false, my read of master says metabib.record_attr_vector_list gets rows removed on bib delete -- but then *I* might be missing something or misunderstanding you.
14:35 berick disabled here, too
14:35 berick good to know that's there, though

Results for 2015-06-25

14:17 jboyer-isl I wonder if it's a bad idea to connect to a vm, then connect to it's host, then run apt-get upgrade when qemu-kvm packages are involved. I suppose I'll find out shortly.
14:18 jboyer-isl Surprise! It's fine.
14:22 jeff jboyer-isl: this is why you have a console, right? ;-)
14:23 jboyer-isl jeff: this is why we have dev! nothing is too dangerous to test on a machine you don't need (at the moment).
14:24 jboyer-isl (I haven't installed our iLO licenses yet, so I would be quite cross if I had to make a personal appearance at the DC...)
14:25 jeff oh, i just meant your console from the vm host to the vm guest.
14:27 jboyer-isl jeff: Oh, sure. I wondered about the possibilities of interrupting an upgrade because you shut down the "remote" machine that started it and the state of the machine at that point.
14:27 jboyer-isl I guess having ssh go offline would be extremely unusual, but I expect things to blow up for real if they're going to blow up at all.
16:59 jwoodard_ ok so remind me where you can edit the max fine limit for patron groups
16:59 jwoodard_ It has been one of those days
17:02 mmorgan jwoodard_: You should find that in Circulation Policies (Admin - Local Admin - Circulation Policies)
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17:25 jwoodard_ thanks mmorgan++
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14:13 terran msg
14:13 caryar etiquette says use /msg for ask the operator politely to be allowed back in
14:13 bshum Yes, /query is what I usually use
14:13 terran msg yboston test
14:13 yboston bshum: really?
14:13 terran ack
14:13 yboston I looked it up, it was what I thought…. /msg nickname
15:05 jeff selling something... like parts.
15:12 * mmorgan can get you a deal on parts ;-)
15:12 gsams jeff++
15:12 Stompro Dyrcona, thanks for the quickpicks script.  So say I'm doing a bug testing branch with commits from 10 different LP bugs, I pull them all in using the -s flag with quickpick.  Now time passes and I test all the various LP bugs.  Is there an easy way to push signoff branches with just certain commits directly from my bug fix branch?  Or do I need to manage each signoff branch individually?  Sorry for the long post.
15:13 tsbere Stompro: You will need to build individual signoff branches.
15:13 Dyrcona Stompro: When I'm testing, I usually checkout -b a new branch based on master and then merge the branches that I want to test into that.
15:14 Dyrcona When I want to sign off on one of the branches, I usually create a new branch based on master, then quickpick -s the branch I want to sign off on.
15:16 Stompro Ok, that is what I thought, and where I was being lazy.  I'm sure I'll get faster at it with more practice.
15:17 miker bshum: you hate RAID?
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15:18 bshum In general it's good to test everything in collaboration, eventually. Since they'll be merged that way at some point. But too many at once it can be hard to figure out what broke what.
15:19 bshum miker: Maybe I meant to say I hate thinking about RAID configs. Or RAID and SSDs. Or failing RAID arrays...
15:19 bshum @dontcare RAID
15:19 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  bshum no longer hates RAID.
15:19 miker ;)
15:19 Dyrcona bshum: Or HP RAID in particular?
15:20 bshum @hate HP
15:20 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  bshum hates HP.
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15:25 Dyrcona I usually test four or five branches at once, and add in our local customization branches.
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15:27 Dyrcona And, when I see signed off lp bugs that aren't fix committed, I'll sometimes merge those in, do a quick smoke test, then push them.
15:30 Dyrcona @loves
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15:30 pinesol_green Dyrcona loves git; scripted sign off; sed; OpenBSD; gnu/emacs; and git tag
16:52 mrpeters will it be gone before the next 2.8 release?
16:52 mrpeters berick: thansk
16:52 Dyrcona Nope. It will be gone in 2.9.
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17:01 Bmagic I give up, what table keeps the patron credit (when choosing to convert change to patron credit) ?
17:02 berick Bmagic: you'll never guess... actor.usr :)

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14:27 _robbat2|irssi i want to get all the variance out of the main opensrf.xml file, and generate the included files
14:28 jboyer-isl If it's only that one line (inserted at line 34 of OpenSRF's System.pm) you could run a custom version of OpenSRF until it's accepted upstream. Of course, if your timeline is too short that might be a bit rough.
14:29 jboyer-isl Why not build the file from a template?
14:30 _robbat2|irssi right now, between dev+testing+production systems, I count 15+ unique opensrf.xml files
14:31 _robbat2|irssi and i've seen settings get left behind when copied around
14:31 _robbat2|irssi so I want to abstract what changes from what doesn't
14:31 _robbat2|irssi install the static opensrf.xml with xinclude statements  on every machine
14:31 _robbat2|irssi trivial to comapre
14:32 _robbat2|irssi and template the other changes only
14:35 jboyer-isl That would only fix the issue for passwords though, there are a lot of things in the default file that (likely) need to be changed. The min/max/standby/etc. number of servers for each service are a big one, and there are tons of those.
14:37 jboyer-isl I only looked into puppet enough to mention that it exists in my conference presentation, but I assume it allows you to build the file from a template with some variables generic to your whole installation and some specific to the machine it's being run on, all of our configs are unique to each machine but built from a single template.
14:39 jeff yeah, puppet gives you erb templating.

Results for 2015-06-22

10:23 yboston I just switched to 2.7 the MOnday after the last EG conference
10:24 yboston BW, I am not kidding that for the last three eyars at the EG cofnerence that bug has been mentioned to me by various folks
10:24 Dyrcona I believe you. I recall hearing it mentioned at one, at least.
10:25 Dyrcona Best thing is if we could set up a test to make it happen.
10:25 yboston It could have gone away, but from Dan's comments it might have been a feature and not in the sarcastic CYA way
10:25 Dyrcona That doesn't sound intentional to me.
10:26 Dyrcona I don't recall what MARC says about subfield order, if anything.
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10:53 krvmga https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1467559
10:53 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1467559 in Evergreen "# hash tag truncated in URL in Call Number (shelf browse)" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
10:56 Dyrcona Guess I should find a controlled field with more than 1 subfield to test lp 712490.
10:56 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 712490 in Evergreen "Subfield order in bib. record changes when editing authority" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712490
10:56 Dyrcona I did find an author with the $0 before the $a in the bre's 100.
10:56 dbwells krvmga: pretty sure I'm not Chris Sharp, but I've been called worse ;)
11:18 yboston I don't remember the details of the issue, I am attempting to quote what eeevil explained to me a while ago. My memory might be wrong
11:19 yboston s/I am/I was/
11:23 Dyrcona Yep. It took 72.575 seconds in the database.
11:25 Dyrcona Maybe I picked a bad one to test with.
11:25 Dyrcona We had two subject headings for Fables, so I merged them.
11:26 Dyrcona Looking at some records for books by Coelho, I don't see that the the fields changed order after the merge, but the most they have in that sugject is three, including the $0.
11:27 Dyrcona That should be "subfields changed order."
17:05 dbwells berick++
17:06 jonadab There are ice cream flavors besides chocolate?
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17:42 hopkinsju Stompro: My pleasure. Hope it is of use.

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06:29 pgwhatever hi all, im trying to install the vanilla evergreen database only.  I download repo, git://git.evergreen-ils.org/Evergreen.git
06:30 pgwhatever but I cannot get eg_db_config.in to work nor underlying script, build-db.sh
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16:47 jeff the only one i'm aware of is the logic in Dyrcona's Safari load script.
16:47 gmcharlt nah, I'll just cherry-pick on a Friday afternoon
16:47 Bmagic Dyrcona: Gotcha
16:47 bshum But we can test it.
16:48 Dyrcona Bmagic: As jeff pointed out, my safariload script checks for d in the leader and deletes bibs if found: http://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=j​ason/safariload.git;a=summary
16:49 Dyrcona You might be able to use it as an example/starting point.
16:49 Dyrcona And, while fiddling with my Python script, I discover that two of my wife's circs from 2011 have xact_finish set but no checkin_scan_time.
17:17 jeff gsams: are all of the items you want to change in a certain shelving location right now, or are they all over the place?
17:17 gsams single shelving location, changing to multiple locations
17:17 jeff what is the id of the single source shelving location?
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17:18 gsams It's actually 3819, I don't know why the one I pasted had that for the set, the new one is 4870.
17:19 gsams since it was based on the call number pattern, I figured singling out the owning library and call number pattern was the best option
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17:25 jeff gsams: i took your original query and updated it -- does this approach look better? Please don't run this "for real" on live data without appropriate safeguards, etc: https://gist.github.com/jeff/50f2999095e175c49362
17:25 gsams jeff: Thankfully, testing it on a backup.
17:26 jeff gsams: that FROM statement on the UPDATE query is how you do an UPDATE with a JOIN, essentially
17:26 mmorgan gsams: Again, the Friday afternoon brain, but you could *test* this one too, based on yours...
17:26 jeff and what would be your ON becomes just another part of the WHERE clause
17:26 pastebot "mmorgan" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "Possible query" (9 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/75
17:28 gsams mmorgan: Ah.  Yes now I understand what dumb I was actually perpetrating.

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