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jeff |
good morning! |
| 07:55 |
csharp |
jeff: yo dawg |
| 07:56 |
jeff |
step one of the morning: work around the fact that 22/tcp is blocked on the hotel wifi |
| 07:56 |
jeff |
csharp: today is your day! justification for running ssh on a non-standard port! |
| 08:02 |
jeff |
ymmv, but 8080/tcp appears to work. |
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Stompro |
Happy hack-o-way-o-day! |
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| 09:12 |
gmcharlt |
I'm calling a brief Q&A and release manager vote tomorrow at 13:00 ET |
| 09:12 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier's proposal can be found here: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-dev/2016-October/010246.html |
| 09:13 |
gmcharlt |
needless to say, I anticipate that the vote itself will be a quick operation, but if anybody who will not be at the hack-a-way person has questions, we can field them via #evergreen |
| 09:14 |
gmcharlt |
I'm also happy to set up a Google Hangout if anybody wants |
| 09:14 |
gmcharlt |
and bonus! no cats to wander into the field of view! |
| 09:14 |
gmcharlt |
hmm |
| 09:14 |
gmcharlt |
maybe that's more of an anti-bonus |
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kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen! |
| 09:26 |
gmcharlt |
good morning from the air! |
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Bmagic |
gootinmorgan |
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jeff |
it's ProxyCommands all the way down! |
| 09:44 |
csharp |
jeff++ |
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Mark__ |
Hello. I am trying to contact the person responsible for maintaining your Buildbot build system. It wasn't immediately clear from the website who I should contact so I'm starting here. Are you able to point me to the right person? |
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EvgilsHackaway16 |
The 2016 Hack-a-way is going on now! Main Hangout is here: https://hangouts.google.com/call/iyfkfqiyvrfonkfnmkimtimbdie |
| 09:48 |
EvgilsHackaway16 |
Project specific hangouts will be popping up throughout the day. |
| 09:53 |
kmlussier |
Starting shared document at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XAbe_UGSqqNnOoUG-I3Mg1NMUK08KZHt2AKDKQL1abw/edit?usp=sharing. I'll add some jquery notes there. |
| 09:54 |
dbs |
gmcharlt: I vote anti-bonus |
| 09:54 |
bshum |
All those hard working evergreeners :) |
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Bmagic |
Hi bshum! |
| 09:55 |
bshum |
It might just be me, but I guess there's no sound for the main hangout yet :) |
| 09:55 |
EvgilsHackaway16 |
Working on it! Sorry for the delay! |
| 09:56 |
bshum |
Oh, it froze, heh |
| 09:56 |
bshum |
I'm just doing a drive by anyways, can't stay all day :( |
| 09:56 |
bshum |
Bmagic: Hey! :D |
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bshum |
Mark__: I'm not entirely sure who's in charge of all that either. But this is a good channel to ask that question about buildbot. |
| 09:59 |
Mark__ |
Thanks bshum. We (hyper.sh) just released a buildbot plugin that gives per second billing and typically reduces build costs significantly: https://blog.hyper.sh/serverless-ci-hyper-docker-integration-for-buildbot.html |
| 09:59 |
Mark__ |
We're offering discounted compute to Buildbot users. |
| 10:00 |
Mark__ |
Not sure if that is of interested, but if so let me know and I'll be happy to arrange a bunch of credits for you guys. |
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kmlussier |
Hi bshum! So strange being here and not seeing you in the room. :) |
| 10:07 |
bshum |
kmlussier: Indeed, it looks like a nice room too |
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* bshum |
waves at yboston |
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dbs |
Mark__: I'm one of the people who helped set up our buildbot instance, back in the days when VMs ruled. I think it would make more sense (and be much more feasible) for us to use docker containers these days, with every different OS build slave on a single server |
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* dbs |
can't join the Hangout alas, he's on virtual reference right now |
| 10:23 |
Mark__ |
Hey dbs. Hyper actually works natively with Docker, so you create your build images for different targets and then just run them all through buildbot. That's what buildbot themselves just started doing actually and I think they are building against a number of targets. |
| 10:24 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Not much happening on the Hangout now anyway. |
| 10:24 |
Mark__ |
The whole idea is that you only pay when you're building, you can make things parallelized (no upper limit) and you don't need to maintain/patch VMs anymore. |
| 10:26 |
Mark__ |
Pierre from Buildbot put together a tutorial here: https://hyper.sh/howto/how-to-use-hyper.sh-to-deploy-your-buildbot.html |
| 10:28 |
Mark__ |
If I'm interrupting your hangout I'm happy to chat another time! |
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| 10:30 |
dbs |
Mark__: right, but as we already have one VM dedicated to the buildbot server then I think we could just deploy containers on the as-needed basis on the same VM? |
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| 10:31 |
dbs |
Sorry, my attention is torn between a few different things right now... |
| 10:31 |
dbs |
Mark__: that said, it certainly sounds appealing, and I'm not really in a position to put in the time to overhaul our current buildbot system in any case :/ |
| 10:32 |
dbs |
So maybe if someone else wants to pick up that torch...! |
| 10:32 |
bshum |
I think the sound for the hangout is dead. Oh well. |
| 10:32 |
rjackson_isl |
yes - is here too :( |
| 10:33 |
Mark__ |
You could indeed just deploy containers on the same VM, and if you're not paying that much for the VM right now then the price difference is probably not worth the work. |
| 10:33 |
dbs |
We can keep communicating via IRC and the google doc |
| 10:33 |
Mark__ |
Buildbot found it useful because they could speed up the builds and get rid of having to manage a VM cluster. |
| 10:34 |
dbs |
Mark__: Yes, I can totally understand that advantage |
| 10:34 |
dbs |
Mark__: Dustin is still the lead dev of Buildbot? he's good people |
| 10:35 |
Mark__ |
Yes Dustin is still involved but we've mainly been working with Pierre Tardy who is also good people ;-) |
| 10:36 |
Mark__ |
Anyway, I'll leave you to it, but if someone is interested in giving it a whirl just mail talk hyper.sh and we'll get you some free credits to play around. |
| 10:36 |
Mark__ |
Hope the hangout works out. :-) |
| 10:37 |
dbs |
Mark__: jeez, it's been five years since I contributed anything to the project: https://github.com/dbs/buildbot/commits?author=dbs |
| 10:37 |
dbs |
Thanks for the heads up Mark__ |
| 10:37 |
Mark__ |
Ah... I didn't realize you were a contributor. Nice work, it seems to be gaining popularity all the time |
| 10:38 |
Mark__ |
Bye for now |
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bshum |
And let there be sound! |
| 10:47 |
kmlussier |
Hooray! |
| 10:48 |
kmlussier |
bshum: I don't think you were missing much. A bunch or murmuring. :) |
| 10:50 |
EvgilsHackaway16 |
There's nothing like breaking in new equipment live. Much like testing new code in production! |
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kmlussier |
jvwoolf: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/kmlussier/digital-images-in-the-catalog |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Kathy Lussier] LP#1584807: Clicking column header should not unsort list - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=59503ed> |
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bshum |
Maybe there needs to be consent for there to be sound in the hangout, cause it just cut out right after rhamby said that :) |
| 11:57 |
rhamby |
fair enough |
| 12:01 |
EvgilsHAW16 |
Yay Windows 10! :-/ |
| 12:03 |
bshum |
Huzzah |
| 12:11 |
yboston |
kmlussier: just wanted to mention to you, in case it has not been mentioned already, that soem poeple sitll use the “auto suggest” feeature. that feature requires Dojo |
| 12:11 |
yboston |
kmlussier: I am only lurking so I may have missed a lot |
| 12:12 |
dbs |
yboston: that was acknowledged in the google doc comment |
| 12:12 |
yboston |
dbs: thanks, must have missed it |
| 12:13 |
berickm |
jeff: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/berick/items-out-sort-exp-tmp -- requires some explanation |
| 12:13 |
kmlussier |
yes, we weren't talking about getting rid of autosuggest. But autosuggest needs to be reworked anyway to address the accessibility issues. If we go with jquery, then the goal should be to move it to jquery when it is redone. |
| 12:13 |
dbs |
yeah, kmlussier's response to my q about removing dojo mentions "The biggest use of Dojo in the catalog is autosuggest, which needs to be reimplemented anyway to address accessibility issues." |
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yboston |
kmlussier: thanks, and I have a blind professor that is not having issues with autosuggest. He has a bigger issues with nested tables in search resutls |
| 12:15 |
yboston |
kmlussier: but we are workign ona fix |
| 12:16 |
yboston |
lp 1467645 |
| 12:16 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1467645 in Evergreen "OPAC's search results use of nested tables create page navigation issues for screen reader users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467645 |
| 12:16 |
yboston |
BTW, the audio went out :( |
| 12:19 |
EvgilsHackaway16 |
restarting the laptop now that we're at lunch, hopefully that helps the audio... |
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jeffdavis |
ebook API integration requires JS in the OPAC as well - currently using Dojo since that's what's there now, but doesn't need to |
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jeffdavis |
added hangout and google doc links to hackaway wiki page |
| 13:14 |
gmcharlt |
jeffdavis++ |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
so, to suggest times for the "committee-of-the-whole" items: |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
Today, 3ish p.m. EDT - feedback from the buildmaster experiment |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
Tomorrow, 11 a.m. EDT - discuss supporting jQuery in the OPAC |
| 13:16 |
gmcharlt |
Tomorrow, after the 1 p.m. EDT RM Q&A and vote - discuss setting release date/goal for feature-completeness and support of the web staff client |
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csharp |
bug 1373690 |
| 13:19 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1373690 in Evergreen "Direct EDI generation for ACQ orders -- AKA kill ruby webrick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373690 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick) |
| 13:19 |
gmcharlt |
I've updated the agenda — https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2016-agenda |
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| 13:21 |
EvgilsHackaway16 |
Heading back to the tables now. If you haven't joined us so far, you can via Hangout at: https://hangouts.google.com/call/iyfkfqiyvrfonkfnmkimtimbdie |
| 13:30 |
bshum |
Sigh, I think CPAN hates me today, two 16.04 VMs from scratch and both can't get the prereqs done for Evergreen cause of CPAN issues :( |
| 13:31 |
tsbere |
bshum: Maybe CPAN is just having a bad day? |
| 13:32 |
bshum |
tsbere: Maybe, but it was working before I ran through the first series of package installs |
| 13:32 |
bshum |
So I'm wondering if there's a bad package somewhere |
| 13:32 |
bshum |
It could just be a fluke though, you're right. |
| 13:33 |
tsbere |
bshum: I had issues recently, I changed mirrors and it was happier. |
| 13:33 |
phasefx |
wonder if we should start mirroring stuff like that on an EG domain, point to it by default |
| 13:34 |
tsbere |
phasefx: I wouldn't want to have cpan configs being pointed at EG by the Makefiles by default. For one, it would override someone having pre-set an actual local mirror... |
| 13:34 |
bshum |
On the plus side, I've installed OpenSRF master twice now and gotten successful math tests :) |
| 13:34 |
bshum |
So glass half full? |
| 13:36 |
bshum |
I'll try it again on another network later. |
| 13:37 |
phasefx |
tsbere: roger that |
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bshum |
Odd, it didn't even ask me to choose a mirror automatically. I thought it used to do that, hmm... |
| 13:46 |
gmcharlt |
one more item for the whole-group agenda -- 16:00 tomorrow, discussing a developer mentorship program |
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* phasefx |
has a debian wheezy instance that needs Makefile.install tweaks for libdbi from debian-jessie, yet the existing debian-wheezie works fine (except for Excel::Writer::XLSX) on a pristine wheezy. Answer, stop using wheezy? :) |
| 13:50 |
pastebot |
"miker" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "only show active funds in 'allocate from fund'" (35 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/31 |
| 13:50 |
tsbere |
bshum: I think it started auto-configuring by default somewhat recently if called to install things before configure happened. If you run it without a package name the first time I think it still prompts you. |
| 13:57 |
abowling1 |
miker++ for the helpful help on the acq dropdown |
| 13:59 |
jeff |
helpful help is helpful. |
| 14:01 |
jeffdavis |
look at all you Evergreen people hackin' away... |
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jeffdavis |
I can hear you people |
| 14:08 |
bshum |
What was the question? |
| 14:08 |
jeff |
hah |
| 14:08 |
bshum |
Yes, we can hear |
| 14:08 |
bshum |
Tell Dyrcona that he should use his filter |
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bshum |
Okay, must be CPAN not liking me |
| 14:18 |
bshum |
Tried a fresh Debian Jessie VM and it blew up too on the CPAN part for Makefile |
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Bmagic |
Dyrcona: so you created the age-based-proximity table? jeff |
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* jeff |
raises an eyebrow |
| 14:38 |
berickm |
'jeff' is the name of the table |
| 14:56 |
jeff |
heh |
| 14:56 |
jeff |
async puns. |
| 14:56 |
jeff |
(not in nature, just in implementation) |
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bshum |
"Speech, speech!" |
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csharp |
berick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23417429/ - our customized PO JEDI template |
| 15:17 |
berickm |
csharp: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=29e0377b0fd18f76787afb610204f11061757adb |
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berickm |
csharp: https://gist.github.com/berick/1194e1fe0d8a7f0d1ab82c2213c3cb41 |
| 15:27 |
berickm |
csharp: insert into edi_attr_set_map for INCLUDE_LOCATION is needed |
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berickm |
csharp: not sure yet why barcode isn't included. requires talking |
| 15:33 |
csharp |
ok |
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csharp |
@blame power blips |
| 15:41 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: power blips stole csharp's ice cream! |
| 15:41 |
bshum |
They are evil. |
| 15:43 |
jeff |
the power blipped, i lost my ssh session, and when i regained access i have ipv6. |
| 15:43 |
jeff |
oh, because i hopped from hotel wifi to mifi hotspot. |
| 15:44 |
jeff |
hotel wifi isn't back yet. |
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bshum |
jeff: Ah, gotcha. |
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berickm |
csharp: UNT fix pushed |
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bshum |
tsbere: Well I tried adding additional CPAN mirrors to my urllist, and that also failed |
| 15:54 |
gmcharlt |
I've updated https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2016-agenda#scheduled_events with the results of the buildmaster discussion |
| 15:54 |
bshum |
So I'm starting to think there's something more broken |
| 15:54 |
gmcharlt |
if I've missed something, please let me know |
| 15:58 |
tsbere |
bshum: Did you remove the potentially problem-causing mirrors in the process? |
| 15:59 |
bshum |
tsbere: Hmm, I thought I did, but now you got me wondering if I missed something |
| 15:59 |
bshum |
The only one listed at first was http://www.cpan.org |
| 15:59 |
bshum |
Which appears up.... |
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bshum |
And using wget to get the file it was trying to get to seemed to work too |
| 16:00 |
bshum |
I think it's an LWP issue; I'm reading up on things |
| 16:08 |
bshum |
tsbere++ virtualbox-- #NAT problems broke my CPAN :( |
| 16:15 |
jeffdavis |
I need to get back to installing EG with vagrant, now that I have a laptop with >2GB RAM. |
| 16:20 |
csharp |
bug 1 |
| 16:20 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to MFauzilkamil Zainuddin (apogee) |
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bshum |
"just push it" +1 |
| 16:27 |
csharp |
@band add The Little Bugs |
| 16:27 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=6&url=evergreen-ils.org |
| 16:28 |
csharp |
@praise the little kittens |
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* pinesol_green |
the little kittens goes to eleven |
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EvgilsHackaway16 |
We're logging off of the livestream for the evening. See you again tomorrow! |
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csharp |
good evening to all of y'all |
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* bshum |
taps his fingers waiting for npm |
