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06:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:08 csharp @band add Night Cereal
08:08 pinesol csharp: Band 'Night Cereal' added to list
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08:21 * JBoyer is reminded of Bob Seger
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08:44 csharp in the "risks you didn't realize you had to worry about" department: https://arstechnica.com/information-tec​hnology/2019/12/russian-media-group-ram​bler-attempting-to-hold-nginx-hostage/
08:47 JBoyer Yeah. I've been waiting to see what happens there. :-/
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10:00 rhamby yeah, I've been following that oo
10:00 rhamby too even
10:02 csharp "oo" is an appropriate reaction, tho
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11:12 Bmagic Anyone out there ever needed to change SIP to return barcodes instead of titles when the 63 message has the hold flag set?
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11:37 csharp Bmagic: yeah - we did that
11:38 csharp it fixed some libraries' selfchecks at the expense of breaking others' so we're back at returning titles for now
11:41 csharp hmm - looks like I didn't record specifics of the cause, but the symptoms for the affected libraries was timeouts retrieving 63/64 (Patron info) data
11:42 Bmagic haha! That's the conundrum on which I was just about to endevour
11:42 Bmagic I also note that the 63 hold message can only return item barcodes once the holds are captured
11:44 Bmagic unless you just changed to code to pick one at random
11:49 Bmagic endevour/endeavour
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11:58 csharp every time I look at SIP, I just think "there has to be a better way", then, since I don't care enough to do anything about it, I move on :-)
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12:29 Dyrcona Bmagic: You probably want the new feature to only return the captured holds for the patron, too. By default, Evergreen returns everything.
12:30 Bmagic Techlogic is going to introduce a feature into their software that will parse the AS field containing Titles and not barcodes in their next development cycle, so I think we're good
12:31 Dyrcona I still think you want the feature enabled, but that's up to you. :)
12:32 Bmagic right on, I hesitate to change something because so much "other" software has been relying on the way it is now. Don't want to run into csharp's issue where it breaks something else.
12:34 Dyrcona It's configurable by institution block, so you can use it with only the libraries that need it.
12:34 Bmagic via CP field?
12:36 Dyrcona Bmagic: bug 1799272
12:36 pinesol Launchpad bug 1799272 in Evergreen "SIP2 Hold Items Count Includes Unavailable Holds" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1799272
12:36 Bmagic ah!
12:36 Bmagic Dyrcona++
12:37 Dyrcona It fixes both the hold count and the list of holds.
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13:49 jeff s/fixes/changes/ since this is SIP after all ;-)
13:51 csharp @decide change or fix
13:51 pinesol csharp: go with fix
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14:15 Dyrcona @coin
14:15 pinesol Dyrcona: tails
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14:38 csharp @eightball will I get a Fender Stratocaster for Christmas?
14:38 pinesol csharp: No clue.
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15:13 Dyrcona @decide Tele or Strat
15:13 pinesol Dyrcona: go with Strat
15:14 csharp currently only have a Tele (technically an ASAT Classic), considering adding the Strat :-)
15:16 jeff sometimes I wish we archived more standing penalties.
15:17 jeff Without knowing a stop time for ausp 1 (exceeds fines), I don't think I can easily find how many users were blocked at date X without querying and archiving the results, or comparing a before/after database dump.
15:18 jeff (blocked because of exceeding fines, aka ausp 1)
15:18 jeff ...or as a third option, a potentially hairy query against the money schema.
15:22 Dyrcona jeff: Patches welcome. :)
15:24 jeff right, and as patches go that's probably not a particularly tricky one. i'm mostly musing out loud and brainstorming with myself :-)
15:25 Dyrcona :-)
15:29 Dyrcona @eightball will I get a theremin for christmas
15:29 pinesol Dyrcona: No clue.
15:29 Dyrcona pinesol: Buy a clue, will ya...
15:29 pinesol Dyrcona: <shaggy>We're, like, doomed.</shaggy>
15:34 alynn26 @eightball will I get a new car
15:34 pinesol alynn26: Come again?
15:34 alynn26 @eightball will I get a new car?
15:34 pinesol alynn26: The answer is certainly yes.
15:35 alynn26 Dyrcona It has a clue
15:35 Dyrcona :)
15:36 Dyrcona alynn26: Congratulations on your new car!
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16:16 Dyrcona Whoa! I didn't think rebasing a few of dpearl's branches would have that effect!
16:17 Dyrcona :)
16:18 mmorgan :)
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