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05:30 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:41 Dyrcona pinsesol: Welcome back!
08:41 Dyrcona heh. didn't spell it right, figures....
08:41 Dyrcona @who is the typo king?
08:41 pinesol dluch_ is the typo king.
08:42 Dyrcona Naw, it's me. :)
08:47 Dyrcona csharp++
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09:03 csharp jlamos++ dteston++ gmcharlt++ # definitely a team effort
09:06 Dyrcona jlamos++ dteston++ gmcharlt++ # Indeed!
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10:16 Dyrcona Is "npm run build-prod" supposed to do some kind of cache-busting for the web staff JS stuff?
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10:25 berick Dyrcona: no, the angjs build setup does not stamp the files with cache-busting hashes
10:26 Dyrcona berick: Thanks! I was just coming to that conclusion after looking through the config and reading some webpack documentation.
10:26 Dyrcona Also, experience tells me that it doesn't. :)
10:27 Dyrcona I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something.
10:43 yboston rhamby: I love the idea of "Ask me about ____" buttons for future conferences
10:46 rhamby yboston: yeah, it was abneiman who really brought the idea up (if I recall correctly) but I really like the idea too
10:47 abneiman Actually, I can't take credit -- Meg Stroup of SC had the idea, and I kinda ran with it
10:47 abneiman because I thought it was a great idea too :)
10:48 rhamby abneiman++ : I thoguht there was another party involved but I couldn't think of who
10:51 berick ++
10:51 berick Ask me about "Ask me about ___" buttons
10:52 abneiman berick: that's what I'll put on mine, LOL
10:52 berick :)
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11:39 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1813633 TCN search can find deleted records - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e8f0c59>
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11:57 csharp "the underscore character has a long and storied history..."
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13:44 agoben The EOB meeting will be starting in about 15 minutes.
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14:00 agoben Ok, here we go!
14:00 agoben #startmeeting EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16
14:00 pinesol Meeting started Thu May 16 14:00:40 2019 US/Eastern.  The chair is agoben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:00 Topic for #evergreen is now  (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:00 pinesol The meeting name has been set to 'eob_meeting_for_2019_05_16__agenda__​https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_p​hp_id_governance_minutes_2019_05_16'
14:01 agoben #topic Roll Call
14:01 agoben Use the #info command to provide name and affiliation
14:01 agoben #info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana
14:01 Topic for #evergreen is now Roll Call (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:01 JBoyer #info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, Evergreen Indiana, IN State Lib
14:01 gmcharlt #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox
14:01 nfBurton #info
14:01 csharp #info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS
14:01 tlittle #info tlittle = Tiffany Little, PINES
14:01 nfBurton #info nfBurton = Chris Burton, NFPL
14:02 agoben Anyone hear from Holly, Chris O, or Jessica?
14:03 agoben Ok, well, we still have a quorum, so onwards!
14:03 agoben #topic Approval of Minutes
14:03 agoben #info Minutes from 2019-04-24 meeting: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.ph​p?id=governance:eob-minutes-2019-04-24
14:03 agoben Corrections, updates, suggestions?
14:03 Topic for #evergreen is now Approval of Minutes (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:04 csharp oops - we'll fix the channel topic after this :-)
14:04 gmcharlt meetbot will take care of it when the meeting ends
14:04 gmcharlt I move that we approve the minutes
14:04 csharp ah - ok
14:04 csharp second
14:04 tlittle I'll second
14:04 JBoyer seconded
14:04 agoben Whew.  Thought I'd broken something....
14:04 csharp hah
14:04 agoben #startvote Accept minutes from 2019-04-24? yes, no
14:04 pinesol Begin voting on: Accept minutes from 2019-04-24? Valid vote options are yes, no.
14:04 pinesol Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:05 csharp #vote yes
14:05 agoben #vote yes
14:05 gmcharlt #vote yes
14:05 JBoyer #vote yes
14:05 tlittle #vote yes
14:05 nfBurton #vote yes
14:05 agoben #endvote
14:05 pinesol Voted on "Accept minutes from 2019-04-24?" Results are
14:05 pinesol yes (6): nfBurton, JBoyer, agoben, tlittle, gmcharlt, csharp
14:05 agoben #topic Chair Report
14:05 Topic for #evergreen is now Chair Report (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:05 csharp terran++ # final minutes
14:06 agoben yes, agreed, magnificent minutes for a live capture! terran++
14:06 agoben I have the updated COI paperwork almost ready to send out.  It should be out later today to the board.
14:06 agoben Am adding an action item for posterity
14:06 agoben #action agoben will send out revised COI document for signatures
14:06 agoben #topic Treasurer's Financial Report
14:06 Topic for #evergreen is now Treasurer's Financial Report (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:06 gmcharlt #info Full report is at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=governance:financials:update_2019_05_16
14:06 gmcharlt but to summarize
14:07 gmcharlt - The Evergreen Project now has an account at Wells Fargo
14:07 gmcharlt - I've sent SFC an invoice for the grant funds
14:07 terran gmcharlt++ phew!
14:07 agoben YAY!!!
14:07 csharp gmcharlt++
14:07 JBoyer gmcharlt++
14:07 agoben gmcharlt+++
14:07 nfBurton gmcharlt++
14:07 gmcharlt - csharp and I will meet next Wednesday to add him as a signatory to the bank account
14:07 tlittle gmcharlt++
14:07 csharp and have good Mexican food
14:07 agoben And Jason and I should be set then in November if needed.
14:08 gmcharlt - we'll then figure out how to get the final two signatories, and yeah, ^^
14:08 gmcharlt csharp++ # restaurant suggestion
14:08 agoben Ready for next topic?
14:08 gmcharlt my current estimate of cash(ish) on hand is about $64,550.23
14:08 gmcharlt with $12,968.28 + $100 readily accessible
14:09 agoben Does that include the revenue from the conference?
14:09 gmcharlt and $20K in accounts receivable
14:09 gmcharlt yes, I believe so, although by the next meeting I confirm with MOBIUS
14:09 agoben ++
14:09 gmcharlt but yeah, done unless there are questions
14:10 agoben Sounds good.  Thanks!
14:10 agoben #topic SFC Updates
14:10 Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Updates (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:10 terran Do you want the conference numbers now, or wait until further down the agenda?
14:10 agoben We've got the 2019 conference pulled out in a minute.
14:11 agoben Aside from the invoice going out, do we have any other information/concerns/discussion to have related to the SFC?
14:11 agoben #info SFC was invoiced for initial grant payment this week.
14:12 agoben Moving on then
14:12 agoben #topic Release Manager (3.3)
14:12 Topic for #evergreen is now Release Manager (3.3) (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:12 agoben dbwells?
14:12 agoben Doesn't look like he's available, so...
14:13 agoben #topic Release Manager (3.4)
14:13 Topic for #evergreen is now Release Manager (3.4) (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:13 gmcharlt #info Roadmap is at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap:3.4
14:13 gmcharlt #info Feedback fest #1 for this cycle + Bug Squashing Week is next week, 20-24 May 2019
14:13 gmcharlt that's it unless there are questions
14:13 agoben Thank you!
14:13 agoben gmcharlt++
14:14 agoben #topic 2019 Conference Committee
14:14 Topic for #evergreen is now 2019 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:14 agoben terran, did you want to kick off?
14:14 agoben Or wait for the 2020 discussion?
14:14 terran 2019 budget numbers are at: https://docs.google.com/spreadshee​ts/d/18CQI4i8P-XIwtvQgXY825uSv-kOz​wZSaMfX5BYLE5HA/edit#gid=776292191
14:14 terran There might be a few small changes still, but it looks like we've cleared 7K profit
14:15 csharp nice
14:15 agoben Very nice!
14:15 terran And the post-conference survey results are at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XcpnF​lUeRUcRn8015b_8YFZJ3J48QowoTfWTU4_biY/edit
14:15 terran (link to complete data at bottom of document)
14:15 agoben I'm seeing an uptick in interest in participation by users in the form of new interest groups coming out of this conference :)
14:16 terran Hopefully we'll be able to keep that momentum going
14:16 agoben ++
14:16 agoben Ok, any more questions re: the 2019 conference?
14:17 agoben Hearing none, moving on.
14:17 agoben #topic 2020 Conference Committee
14:17 Topic for #evergreen is now 2020 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:17 terran PINES is working out contract details with the 2020 venue , so nothing new to report on that front yet.
14:17 csharp #info the post-conference survey results are at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XcpnF​lUeRUcRn8015b_8YFZJ3J48QowoTfWTU4_biY/edit
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14:17 agoben Ok, thank you.
14:18 agoben terran++ for all the conference work!
14:18 csharp terran++
14:18 nfBurton terran++
14:18 JBoyer terran++
14:18 tlittle terran++
14:18 agoben #topic Outreach Committee
14:18 Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:18 agoben rhamby, any words?
14:18 rhamby I've gone ahead and sent a report in advance, nothing to add.
14:18 rhamby But I'll be glad to take any questions.
14:19 rhamby A lot of folks are excited about the "ask me about" buttons and hopefully we will have a price next month to look at.
14:19 csharp #info oversight update available at http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/​eg-oversight-board/2019-May/002379.html
14:19 agoben I saw that on IRC earlier!
14:19 tlittle I like the button idea too! I think that's neat
14:20 csharp oops - outreach update, that is
14:20 agoben rhamby for outreach update
14:20 agoben rhamby++ for outreach update
14:20 csharp rhamby++
14:20 tlittle rhamby++
14:20 JBoyer rhamby++
14:20 nfBurton rhamby++
14:20 gmcharlt rhamby++
14:20 agoben #topic Site Selection Committee
14:20 Topic for #evergreen is now Site Selection Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:21 agoben I know the committee just selected the 2020 location, but should we start the 2021 process now?
14:21 csharp hmm - that might be a copy/paste error
14:21 csharp but yeah, we do
14:21 csharp er, should
14:21 agoben Is afterl around?
14:22 agoben Nope, not in channel.  But I believe she headed up the 2020 process, so will reach out to see about recommendations to get the next committee launched.
14:23 csharp in short, we just need to convene a new committee (I've been on the committee nearly every year and would participate again) and get a call for proposals out
14:23 agoben If that's ok?
14:23 csharp yeah
14:23 agoben #action agoben will reach out to Site Selection Committee about starting process for 2021.
14:23 agoben #topic Old Business
14:23 Topic for #evergreen is now Old Business (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:23 agoben I have no old business, anyone else?
14:23 csharp I have something
14:24 gmcharlt I do as well, or at least, a question about whether it's old business
14:24 csharp I wanted to clarify from the last meeting - do we want to retire the eg-oversight-board email list and begin a "board" list?
14:25 csharp that was mentioned and is in the minutes, but I focused so much on getting board-private going, I kind of dropped it and wasn't sure if that's what we wanted/decided :-/
14:25 JBoyer That was the impression I took from it. board@ and board-private@ would be the 2 for the foreseable future.
14:26 JBoyer Since we're technically 2 boards and the word oversight is only in one of the names...
14:26 agoben With the goal being to split up oversight content from project board content, correct?
14:26 csharp ok - well to be possibly pedantic, board-private is not an actual email list (no archiving) and board would be a publicy-subscribable, publicly-archived mailman list
14:27 agoben Yes.
14:27 csharp ok, then I'll move forward on that, and to prevent confusion, I'll put the eg-oversight-board list into a sort of archive mode
14:27 agoben Thank you!
14:27 JBoyer csharp++
14:27 agoben csharp++
14:27 gmcharlt csharp++
14:27 csharp happy to assist
14:28 nfBurton csharp++
14:28 agoben gmcharlt?  You had an issue then?
14:28 tlittle csharp++
14:28 gmcharlt and the item I wanted to bring up is resuming the form 1023 process
14:28 gmcharlt not sure whether that falls into old or new business
14:28 csharp also, point of clarification - most communications should be sent to the public list - board-private should be reserved for conversations of a sensitive nature
14:28 agoben csharp, agreed.
14:29 agoben The notes that I have indicate that until the COI paperwork is completed, we're at a standstill for the 1023.
14:29 gmcharlt ok
14:29 gmcharlt I received from Scott the current versions of the 1023 documents he had
14:30 gmcharlt including some correspondance from Dilly
14:30 agoben I just need to finalize the forms and they'll be in the shared board folder later this afternoon for review and signatures.  Once we have those, i can turn them over to Dilly for processing.
14:30 gmcharlt skimming them, I see that we'll at least need to make some updates for list of board members
14:30 agoben Is that paperwork in the shared board folders?
14:30 gmcharlt but also we may need to go over Dilly's feedback again and make sure it's incoporated
14:30 gmcharlt yeah, it's in the shared folders
14:30 agoben thank you
14:31 agoben The bank account was the other piece of "before the 1023" so that work this week will be a tremendous help.
14:32 agoben Ok, does that wrap up the old business reviews?
14:33 agoben #topic New Business
14:33 Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-05-16, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-05-16)
14:33 agoben #info 2019 conference keynote Ather Sharif has requested that his honorarium of $500 be contributed to the Magee Rehabilitation Hospital.  Shall MOBIUS issue that check out of the 2019 conference funds?
14:33 csharp so moved
14:33 agoben This expenditure has already tentatively been placed in the balance sheet for the conference we saw earlier in the meeting.
14:34 JBoyer seconded
14:34 gmcharlt seconded
14:34 agoben #startvote Shall MOBIUS cut a check to Magee Rehabilitation Hospital in the amount of $500 as a donation from the 2019 conference keynote in lieu of an honorarium? yes, no
14:34 pinesol Begin voting on: Shall MOBIUS cut a check to Magee Rehabilitation Hospital in the amount of $500 as a donation from the 2019 conference keynote in lieu of an honorarium? Valid vote options are yes, no.
14:34 pinesol Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:34 csharp #vote yes
14:34 JBoyer #vote yes
14:34 gmcharlt #vote yes
14:34 nfBurton #vote yes
14:34 agoben #vote yes
14:34 tlittle #vote yes
14:35 agoben #endvote
14:35 pinesol Voted on "Shall MOBIUS cut a check to Magee Rehabilitation Hospital in the amount of $500 as a donation from the 2019 conference keynote in lieu of an honorarium?" Results are
14:35 pinesol yes (6): nfBurton, JBoyer, agoben, tlittle, gmcharlt, csharp
14:35 agoben #action MOBIUS will cut check to Magee Rehabilitation Hospital in the amount of $500 as a donation from the 2019 conference keynote in lieu of an honorarium.
14:35 agoben Any other new business?
14:35 csharp I have one more thing to mention
14:36 csharp GPLS, along with ITS and Emerald staff and gmcharlt have moved the Evergreen Community servers into ITS's server environment
14:37 csharp so I'd like to recognize the efforts of Josh Lamos (jlamos) David Teston (dteston) and Galen Charlton (gmcharlt) in that effort
14:37 agoben That seemed to go pretty smoothly, congrats to all involved!
14:38 tlittle Yes, barely even noticed it happening, which means it seemed to go smoothly! :)
14:38 JBoyer Thanks to everyone involved, I forgot it even happened. :)
14:38 agoben Glad it went well!  Any other announcements or new business?
14:38 csharp that's the plan :-)
14:40 agoben Hearing nothing, I'll close the meeting.
14:40 terran csharp++ jlamos++ dteston++ gmcharlt++
14:40 agoben #endmeeting
14:40 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org | Can't speak? Make sure your nickname is registered and that you are identified to freenode services: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
14:40 pinesol Meeting ended Thu May 16 14:40:28 2019 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:40 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-05-16-14.00.html
14:40 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-05-16-14.00.txt
14:40 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2019/evergreen.2019-05-16-14.00.log.html
14:40 agoben Thanks everyone!!!
14:40 csharp agoben++
14:40 agoben csharp++ info links!
14:40 nfBurton agoben++
14:41 tlittle agoben++
14:41 JBoyer agoben++
14:41 gmcharlt agoben++
14:41 agoben And thanks for following along on my first time leading a meetbot meeting!!!
14:41 JBoyer I've *ahem* seen it go less well before.
14:42 JBoyer (a first-time meeting, that is.)
14:42 csharp I missed a couple of #actions I think, but we'll learn
14:42 csharp kind of rusty - been a few years
14:42 Dyrcona :)
14:42 agoben We got most of it and have the full log in the meantime thankfully :)
14:46 nfBurton Do we have a tentative date for the 3.4 beta?
14:46 csharp that's usually late summer - maybe August?
14:46 csharp but the RM is here, so I'll let him speak for himself :-)
14:51 Dyrcona Looks like the release schedule email was only sent to the development list....
14:51 JBoyer nfBurton, here's the schedule: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap
14:51 Dyrcona JBoyer++
14:51 * Dyrcona was about to paste the dates from the email.
14:52 nfBurton Awesome thanks!
14:52 nfBurton I was looking on Launchpad. Wrong place I guess
14:52 nfBurton JBoyer++
14:53 Dyrcona We don't usually fill in those things on Lp in advance.
14:53 Dyrcona Though, I s'pose we could.
14:53 jeff Google made changes recently to the settings of Google Groups. We found that we were unable to change the settings in the web interface for several of our groups. Long story short, several groups had an internal language code left over from an old Google April Fools' joke. The language code was xx-piglatin. :P
14:54 nfBurton LOL
14:56 jeff Though possibly it was just an overly-sticky locale setting that entered via means other than a Google April Fools' joke. Either way, I'm just happy to have the ability to turn off footers in our groups again.
14:57 Dyrcona Ixnay on the igpay atinlay!
14:59 Dyrcona Someone I used to know (honestly, not me) wrote a program to translate English into Pig Latin. I'm sure there are plenty more such programs out there.
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17:10 abneiman Bmagic: do you have any plans to upgrade MOBIUS's 3.3-beta public test server in advance of Bug Squashing Week?  TIA.
17:30 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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22:30 Bmagic abneiman: I was planning on patching bugsquash.missourievergreen.org with the requested bugs on Sunday with 3.3.0 (depending on the merge success)
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