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08:40 * JBoyer HATES using computers managed by other people...
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08:47 * Dyrcona , too!
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08:47 * Dyrcona also hates contradictory documentation.
08:48 Dyrcona Like this gem from 3M that says in the text to format the AV field one way, then the sample messages show it looking completely different.
08:54 Dyrcona What's funny is the text says to basically do what Evergreen already does.
08:54 Dyrcona But, the self check vendors supposedly expect what's in the sample messages.
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09:01 JBoyer I'm curious where you're even finding sample messages. Neither of the pdfs I have have an AV field in them.
09:06 Dyrcona I have a word document authored by Steve Funari in 2010.
09:07 Dyrcona I can't find it on the web, so I'm not sure about the legality of sharing it.
09:09 Dyrcona It would be interesting to compare documents at the hack-away.
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09:11 Dyrcona New admin interfaces: Should they be done in AngularJS, Angular, or Dojo?
09:11 Dyrcona Gotta /love/ web development....Not!
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09:14 JBoyer Well, one of those is a joke answer, so AngularJS for now, Angular if it's going to take a long time. :P
09:17 Dyrcona So, whatever comes after Angular, then. :)
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09:56 berick if it's 3.3, my vote is for Angular
09:56 berick unclear if the Angular stuff now will be merged for 3.2, but certainly by 3.3
10:02 Dyrcona Well, it's unclear to me if this will be 3.2 or 3.3 and we may want to use it ourselves before we upgrade to 3.3. :)
10:03 berick yeah..
10:03 berick i'd like to get some clarity on the plan for tomorrow's dev meeting
10:04 berick if we merge Angular for 3.2, it may impact your decision
10:04 Dyrcona Of course, I can always update the table in the database.
10:04 Dyrcona yeah. I'm not ready to start on the admin interface, yet, anyway.
10:04 Dyrcona I'm just planning my development.
10:05 Dyrcona This is for SIP2 and looks like we're going to want a table to map Evergreen billing types to self check vendor billing types.
10:06 berick gotcha
10:06 berick fwiw i'v already started working on bug 1779158 -- partly because it helps me flesh out the base app
10:06 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1779158 in Evergreen "Port MARC Batch Import/Export UI (Vandelay) to Angular(6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779158 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
10:06 csharp berick++
10:07 csharp so happy to see that underway
10:07 * csharp finally works up the wherewithal to start testing the cat omnibus bug fixes again
10:07 berick csharp: me too, going to be appreciate here.
10:08 berick csharp: and in case you missed it, bug 1514085 is ready for testing and should also have a good impact in 3.2
10:08 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1514085 in Evergreen "Feature Request: Make Vandelay Asynchronous/Stateless" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514085
10:08 csharp oh - wow
10:08 * csharp did miss it
10:08 csharp I've been tuned out between office move stuff and just family/personal summer stuff
10:09 berick not every piece of that bug will be in 3.2, but what's there should be helpful
10:09 JBoyer berick++
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10:22 gsams So I have stat cats that do not show up in the copy statistical categories portion of the editor right now, but they exist in the database.
10:23 gsams Running 3.0.3 and I'm not seeing anything that suggests any errors are actually occuring.
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10:26 gsams It appears to be only one library that this is the case so far
10:29 mmorgan gsams: web or xul client?
10:30 gsams mmorgan: Both, it is the same interface on both it appears.
10:30 gsams And I get the same results.
10:32 gsams There are 4 stat cats for the library and only "No statistical categories are defined" shows up
10:36 nfpl Any idea why style.css would throw up a 500 error?
10:37 berick nfpl: if the template is not well-formed -- it's built from template toolkit
10:37 berick nfpl: there should be an error in the apache error log
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10:44 mmorgan gsams: I find if I click around enough on that screen, changing focus locations and switching between copy and patron stat cats, the page becomes unresponsive and gives the "No statistical categories are defined" a Reload refreshes it.
10:55 gsams mmorgan: That does not appear to be the issue I am having, no amount of reload appears to correct this.
10:58 JBoyer gsams, in the web client is there anything interesting in the console? Maybe a parsing error related to the name or a value entry?
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11:00 gsams JBoyer: It only appears to be "egEmbedFrame:dump(): dbg: Error in OpenILS.data._debug_stash(): {}" and "[Violation] 'setTimeout' handler took 9497ms"
11:01 kmlussier berick++ for bug 1514085
11:01 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1514085 in Evergreen "Feature Request: Make Vandelay Asynchronous/Stateless" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514085
11:01 gsams The second varies quite a bit in time
11:01 * kmlussier was on vacation and missed the pullrequest
11:03 gsams JBoyer: Those two pop up on the successful libraries as well.
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11:08 JBoyer Yeah, the setTimeout handler is just Chrome complaining that the JS takes longer than it would like. I'm stumped as to the actual cause though. :/
11:10 gsams Yeah, this is some odd stuff, I created a new copy stat cat for that library and it didn't show up either.  It did get created though.
11:11 nfpl What file deals with the myAccount form postbacks? I am trying to unify the preferences under a single tab but need to join the postback data saving functions
11:11 mmorgan gsams: I actually have a training server that may be showing what you are seeing. When I choose the ou at the top of the org tree, the screen takes a long time to load and I get the "No statistical categories are defined"
11:12 mmorgan Those stat cats at the top of the org tree do show when looking at org units lower down in the tree.
11:12 JBoyer does it help to mess with the Focus Location dropdown? It can be confusing because you can create them anywhere (that you're allowed) but the focus location may be somewhere else entirely.
11:12 JBoyer mmorgan++ # great minds, etc.
11:14 * mmorgan runs off to impromptu meeting
11:16 gsams I've had to change the focus location every time I've reloaded as it isn't my home location that I'm working on
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11:18 gsams It doesn't really take long to load them (depending on how you feel about 1500-9000ms) and It's not any different for the patron stat cats for this library which do appear in the editor.
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11:29 JBoyer I wonder about working locations and permissions, but if those weren't setup right you shouldn't be able to create then in the first place. :/
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14:29 csharp ugh - it's hard trying to explain to library IT staff what "Java path" means :-/
14:30 csharp a couple of people at the same time apparently updated Java and it broke their path - since I don't directly administer these stations, I only have partial information
14:31 JBoyer I thought that was finally behind us. :(
14:31 bshum @blame java
14:31 pinesol_green bshum: Your failure is now complete, java.
14:32 JBoyer I assume it's because none of us have used the "enterprise" installer and something is different. :/
14:37 csharp I'm not sure what happened here - one inadvertently worked around it by installing 32-bit Java and I'm still having a back and forth with the other
14:37 csharp possible they have liberal Windows-level perms for staff and a well-meaning staff member busted it
14:41 JBoyer I didn't test every combination of 32/64/etc. but it was intentionally built so that all you need to do is go to java.com and run what it gives you. (which seems to always be 32 bit, unless you specifically track down the 64...)
14:41 JBoyer Or a Java update did something helpful while also installing the Ask toolbar, who knows. :/
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15:49 berick jeffdavis++
15:53 jeff jeffdavis++ berick++
15:55 jeffdavis berick++
15:55 jeffdavis I'm looking forward to not having to restart the websocket server several times a day :)
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16:30 miker jeffdavis: fwiw, you can just kill the spinning backends from within top
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