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09:48 Dyrcona Fix one message from edi_fetcher.p and get the same error message for a different line!
09:58 jeff progress!
09:58 Dyrcona One step forward and one step back.
09:58 Dyrcona :)
10:01 Dyrcona Oh, and a different file. I just assumed.... ;)
10:02 Dyrcona Ah ha! Someone has a null vendor code.
10:03 Dyrcona Probably the same one that was giving me trouble in RemoteAccount.pm.
10:10 dbwells ah, MARC.  Always producing great error messages:  'Warning from bibliographic record 130382: Argument "Qua" isn't numeric in integer division (/) at
10:10 dbwells /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Record.pm line 407.2%'
10:10 dbwells Too bad muggles like me can't even get to line 407.2%
10:10 berick heh
10:15 kmlussier OK, so there are point releases in addition to the major release today? Just need to know what I need to be doing for release notes.
10:22 Dyrcona Yeah, I was going to ask that question, too.
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10:24 kmlussier Dyrcona: Now, see, I figured you would be one of the 2 people who could give me an answer. ;)
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10:28 Dyrcona Well, I wanted to ask if gmcharlt was planning on doing the 2.10 release today.
10:28 Dyrcona 2.9.8 is going to be the last 2.9 release unless there are security issues.
10:29 gmcharlt sure, I can cut it this afternoon
10:30 Dyrcona OK! I'll plan on doing 2.9.8 this afternoon, too.
10:32 kmlussier Dyrcona++ gmcharlt++
10:42 Dyrcona Does anyone anticipate any last minute bug fixes going into rel_2_10 and/or rel_2_9?
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11:07 Dyrcona berick++
11:07 Dyrcona And +1 to removing the old osrf-gateway and (maybe) osrf-http-translator.
11:24 jvwoolf1 Hi all. I'm curious if there are any ramifications for deleting old offline sessions from the database (other than staff not being able to see the exceptions anymore)?
11:24 jeff would that then leave us without any http (or https) endpoints other than XML-RPC?
11:25 Dyrcona jeff: osrf-gateway-v1 and osrf-websockets-translator would still be there.
11:25 Dyrcona jvwoolf1: I don't think so.
11:25 jeff Dyrcona: oh, of course.
11:26 jeff though the latter isn't http, i somehow overlooked the former. :-)
11:26 Dyrcona jeff: I thought it was http...
11:26 jeff (for about as long as it took to ask my question)
11:26 jeff Dyrcona: it's websockets. says so right on the tin. :-)
11:27 Dyrcona jeff: I thought it was a http translator to websockets, not a websockets connection.
11:27 Dyrcona I could be wrong. I frequently am....
11:27 Dyrcona I'll look later.
11:28 Dyrcona Ah, you are correct, sir.
11:29 Dyrcona I should retract that silly email that I sent. :)
11:29 jeff ah, that's where my brain went wrong. you said "osrf-gateway" and i thought "the endpoint traditionally at /osrf-gateway-v1", when what you were really referencing was the endpoint traditionally at /gateway :-)
11:29 Dyrcona Right, yeah. My fingers and brain don't always cooperate.
11:30 jeff hey, me too! weird! :-)
11:32 Dyrcona "Never that stupid question."  You'll get it when you get it. :)
11:32 Dyrcona Just another example.
11:32 Dyrcona I should probably fetch in OpenSRF. It has been a while.
11:33 Dyrcona And no changes. Guess it hasn't been as long as I thought.
11:36 Dyrcona I guess berick is not asking to remove the osrf-http-translator, yet.
11:37 Dyrcona On a somewhat related note, I wonder if it would be beneficial to split the Java and Python libraries from OpenSRF into their own projects?
11:37 Dyrcona I sometimes think "yes" and sometimes think "no."
11:37 Dyrcona kenstir is not around. I'd value his opinion since he said he had to fork the Java libraries for his Android client.
11:38 berick yeah, not ready to call for translator deprecation yet.
11:44 dbwells Actually, I am responsible for the Java/Android forking, during the GSoC project.  It's always something I hoped to get back to.  I would hate to see the Java (or Python) libraries split off, especially it that's a factor.
11:46 Dyrcona dbwells: Thanks. I didn't realize that.
11:47 Dyrcona It would be nice to see them get some use. I've always meant to do something with Java and Python.
11:47 Dyrcona But, time....
11:52 Dyrcona Which reminds me that I've been tasked with looking at constrictor for about two years now.... ;)
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12:06 * dbs uses the Python libraries for at least one core function (LDAP user synchronization)
12:12 Dyrcona Syrup uses Python, too. # for the logs
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12:39 jeffdavis The OpenSRF JS bindings, which are used for a few bits of the OPAC, also use osrf-http-translator. Not sure if we would eventually use websockets there as well or if that will be strictly a staff client thing.
12:40 berick jeffdavis: the opensrf js bindings support websockets now, as part of the staff client dev
12:40 berick and can be used in theory by any web page, not just staff client
12:47 * dbs wonders if he can counter some of hte apache process bloat by not loading Phonelist.pm and other modules that we don't use
12:48 dbs I guess just Phonelist, everything else seems reasonably important :)
12:50 kmlussier heh
12:51 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: 2.11 Release Notes updates - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c487a8f>
12:52 jeffdavis berick: ah, thanks
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12:57 kmlussier Looking at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=dev:release_process:schedule, it looks like 2.8 reached its end of life for security fixes back in June. Whoever updates the Downloads page today might want to remove it, while setting 2.9 to security only.
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12:57 kmlussier We also should update that wiki page to add dates for 2.11
13:06 kmlussier Hmmm...maybe if we add comments to the download pages on when we should remove releases or move them to security, it will be easier to remember to do so when the time comes.
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13:17 dbs kmlussier: and/or maybe add reminders to the developer calendar?
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13:18 kmlussier dbs: Yes! Multiple points of reminders.
13:23 Dyrcona dbs: It is on the calendar. I dunno if anyone has configured reminders.
13:24 dbs oh, haha
13:25 dbs Well, I see the release and RC dates, but not the "remove the old release" :)
13:25 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Adding 2.9.8 point release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ff3aef3>
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13:41 pinesol_green [evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Docs: Adding 2.10.7 point release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b3a5341>
13:44 dbs dbwells: I feel you on the MARC messages, just got this in our logs: "z3950: bad XML : Tag "5||" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/USMARC.pm line 223"
13:44 dbs it's a visual homonym for 511 though!
13:45 Dyrcona hee hee.
13:46 Dyrcona I like it when a record is busted such that subfield data is being read as tags and subfield codes, etc.
13:46 Dyrcona Doesn't happen all that often, but it does happen.
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13:48 * kmlussier added end-of-life dates for 2.9 and 2.10 to the dev calendar.
13:49 kmlussier It was very sad to put the words 'end of life' on my birthday.
13:50 Dyrcona heh
13:51 * kmlussier tries to focus on press releases now.
13:51 kmlussier I guess today will be a community work day. :)
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13:55 Dyrcona kmlussier: Happy birtday, btw!
13:55 Dyrcona @dessert kmlussier
13:55 * pinesol_green grabs some coffee frappes for kmlussier
13:56 dbs kmlussier++
13:56 kmlussier Dyrcona: Sorry, it's not today. It's the end-of-life day for 2.10
13:56 dbs kmlussier++ # because there can't be enough karma for kmlussier
13:56 kmlussier 6 months from now. But I'll take a coffee frappe anyday! :)
13:56 Dyrcona Oh!  I should have known.
13:56 Dyrcona Happy unbirthday!
13:56 gmcharlt kmlussier++
13:56 Dyrcona kmlussier++
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13:57 kmlussier OK, enough of that. :)
13:57 gmcharlt heh
13:58 kmlussier Now I really do want a frappe. Maybe I should run my errand to FedEx now instead of later.
13:59 Dyrcona Sounds like a plan.
14:21 * Dyrcona prepares to run make_release.
14:24 dbwells Being born on the same day as kmlussier, is it my unbirthday, too?
14:24 * dbwells opens his arms, waits for the love
14:25 Dyrcona Happy unbirthday, dbwells!
14:25 Dyrcona @dessert dbwells
14:25 * pinesol_green grabs some Vanilla Frosted Donuts with Sprinkles for dbwells
14:25 dbwells awesome
14:27 * Dyrcona watches i18n messages scroll by in a terminal window.
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14:36 kmlussier heh, dbwells++
14:37 * kmlussier is realizing belatedly that the release notes should probably say something about web client admin interfaces.
15:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] schema update script: 2.10.6 -> 2.10.7 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c57001f>
15:21 Dyrcona Well, 2.9.8 passes the loging and checkin everything that Vincent C. has checked out.
15:22 Dyrcona logging in... :)
15:22 Dyrcona Connects with the web staff client, too, so i'm going to throw it on the server.
15:22 Dyrcona But not move it to the release area.
15:39 Dyrcona <vegas_announcer_voice>kmlussier has left the building!</vegas_announcer_voice>
15:39 Dyrcona :)
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16:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Forward port 2.9.7 to 2.9.8 db upgrade script. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1501e1f>
16:48 * Dyrcona calls it a day, for now. Likely back later.
16:53 mmorgan <vegas_announcer_voice>Dyrcona has left the building!</vegas_announcer_voice>
16:53 mmorgan :)
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20:51 gmcharlt will be uploading 2.10.7 shortly, then put it and 2.9.8 into place
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21:09 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] small typo fix in 2.10 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c17f594>
21:27 gmcharlt https://evergreen-ils.org/everg​reen-2-9-8-and-2-10-7-released/
21:40 hbrennan gmcharlt++
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