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| 08:05 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
| 08:05 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Colombia El Castillo Micro-Lot Nelson Melo, and sends it sliding down the bar to Stompro |
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kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Dragon Pearl Jasmine, and sends it sliding down the bar to bshum (http://ratetea.com/tea/harney/dragon-pearl-jasmine/1320/) |
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* graced |
waves at kmlussier |
| 09:08 |
kmlussier |
graced: Good morning! :) |
| 09:08 |
graced |
Good morning! |
| 09:10 |
graced |
kmlussier: I was cleaning out my desk and found the release notes for 1.6 that we handed out at ALA lo these many years ago... |
| 09:11 |
kmlussier |
graced: 1.6 was the new, cutting edge version of Evergreen when I first started at MassLNC. |
| 09:11 |
graced |
We have come far. |
| 09:12 |
graced |
If nothing else the web client will make for prettier screen shots. |
| 09:12 |
graced |
:-) |
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* Dyrcona |
prefers browser client. The current client is a web client, too. |
| 09:24 |
graced |
true enough |
| 09:24 |
graced |
I'll just call it webby |
| 09:24 |
mrpeters |
yeah 1.6 was the good stuff! |
| 09:24 |
graced |
:) |
| 09:24 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 09:24 |
mrpeters |
wasn't that the first version of Craftsman? |
| 09:25 |
mrpeters |
i still love that skin -- whoever the artist was for that did a wonderful job -- it was so popular when I was at ISL |
| 09:25 |
Dyrcona |
Alas, poor Craftsman....I used to know the vata well, Horatio.... |
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mrpeters |
who was it that designed all of the art for that again? |
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Dyrcona |
@who designed Craftsman |
| 09:57 |
pinesol_green |
jonadab designed Craftsman. |
| 09:58 |
Guest72878 |
How do you remove the cost for a book that was marked lost? |
| 09:58 |
Guest72878 |
The system used to do it automatically... |
| 10:23 |
Dyrcona |
oops.. was just going to answer.... |
| 10:23 |
Dyrcona |
busy morning.... |
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| 11:02 |
jeff |
web staff client doesn't have a Refresh button on a patron account. This wasn't missed until we changed a patron profile and wanted to trigger a penalty recalculation. |
| 11:03 |
jeff |
thinking about it a little bit, rather than add the refresh button (might still ve a good idea later), it seems to be a good idea to trigger a refresh of system penalties when the user is saved (optionally only when changing profile?) |
| 11:03 |
jeff |
I suspect that there is some existing example of this around billing, so I'll probably start looking there first. |
| 11:14 |
berick |
+1 to server-side penalty recal when user profile changes |
| 11:16 |
Dyrcona |
Interesting: And I recall it being noted before, but OpenSRF installs mod-perl though it is Evergreen that actually needs it. |
| 11:18 |
jeff |
Dyrcona: yes, i believe there was a recent bug or pair of bugs to adjust that back to "as it should be". |
| 11:18 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: Yep. That's probably where I recall it being mentioned recently. |
| 11:18 |
jeff |
i know that there was discussion here, at a minimum. i think i went looking to see where the split had taken place. |
| 11:19 |
Dyrcona |
I just restarted Apache after installing OpenSRF and no errors. |
| 11:19 |
Dyrcona |
That's what reminded me. |
| 11:21 |
* Dyrcona |
runs off to FIX ALL THE THINGS!!!! |
| 11:28 |
jeff |
heh. weird quirk with payments. |
| 11:29 |
jeff |
click Bills tab, make a payment (all xacts are selected). after applying payment, no xacts are selected. |
| 11:29 |
jeff |
select all, make second payment, now all xacts remain selected. |
| 11:30 |
jeff |
i suspect that the preferred behavior would be for them to not be unselected after the first payment. |
| 11:30 |
* jeff |
looks for a launchpad bug |
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csharp |
acq-- |
| 13:24 |
rhamby |
csharp: you did that wrong |
| 13:24 |
rhamby |
acq-- |
| 13:24 |
rhamby |
acq-- |
| 13:24 |
rhamby |
acq-- |
| 13:24 |
rhamby |
You always have to do it at least three times when it's acq or sip. |
| 13:27 |
tsbere |
rhamby: But what do you do if you *like* something that is happening in acq or sip? Hypothetically speaking, of course... |
| 13:30 |
kmlussier |
You do this: |
| 13:30 |
kmlussier |
acq++ |
| 13:30 |
kmlussier |
acq++ |
| 13:30 |
kmlussier |
acq++ |
| 13:31 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 13:31 |
Dyrcona |
@karma acq |
| 13:31 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Karma for "acq" has been increased 3 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -1. |
| 13:31 |
Dyrcona |
Sounds about right. ;) |
| 13:32 |
rhamby |
tsbere: I'll cross that bridge when I get to it |
| 13:36 |
mrpeters |
how many records can Vandelay reasonably handle with the methods documented at http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.10/_import_records.html |
| 13:38 |
mrpeters |
50K records? have a library that sent records to OCLC for cleanup and can't decide if I should just try and use fingerprints and handle it like a new record load or if they should try and use Vandelay and save themselves some money |
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| 13:41 |
Dyrcona |
mrpeters: I loaded the Gutenberg records on a smallish setup with Vandelay a few years ago. That's about 40K records. |
| 13:41 |
Dyrcona |
It will keep loading after the client times out. |
| 13:42 |
mrpeters |
Good deal. I want to be able to do this in the most cost effective way for the customer, and showing them how they can do it themselves saves them lots :) |
| 13:44 |
mrpeters |
Vandelay will still try to find "matching" records with the fingerprinting tools and choose the highest scoring record, is that correct? |
| 13:45 |
Dyrcona |
If you use a match/merge profile, yeah. |
| 13:46 |
mrpeters |
does Evergreen come pre-loaded with any? |
| 13:47 |
Dyrcona |
I think so, yeah. I'd need to look to tell you what it does. |
| 13:47 |
mrpeters |
no no that is OK i can check |
| 13:48 |
mrpeters |
akilsdonk slides from EG14 are very solid on this |
| 13:48 |
berick |
EG comes with 2 default merge profiles. one for full overlay and one for match-only merge (no action is taken) |
| 13:48 |
berick |
that's not the same as match sets, though, I don't think there are any default match sets |
| 13:49 |
mrpeters |
Ah thanks bill that is good to know. I was just reading about the merge/overlay profiles |
| 13:49 |
berick |
confirmed, no default match sets. so, out of the box, EG can only match on 901c (ID) values. |
| 13:49 |
mrpeters |
http://evergreen-ils.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/eg14_Vandelay-presentation-EGCON-2014-2.pdf covers it well |
| 13:50 |
berick |
to match on other MARC fields, you have to create new match sets |
| 13:50 |
mrpeters |
matching on ISBN (020$a) for example |
| 13:50 |
berick |
cool |
| 13:51 |
mrpeters |
this is very cool, its been a while (probably since 2.0) since I have looked at Vandelay -- it has come a long way! |
| 13:52 |
mrpeters |
considering that the incumbent records will be coming from OCLC i'm betting the settings in this document would do quite a nice job |
| 14:51 |
jihpringle |
heads up to anyone else running 2.10 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1594937 |
| 14:51 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1594937 in Evergreen "Closed Dates Editor Displaying Incorrect Closed Duration" [Undecided,New] |
| 14:54 |
kmlussier |
@dessert |
| 14:54 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some pineapple chocolate things from New Zealand for kmlussier |
| 14:54 |
* kmlussier |
was hoping for pie or ice cream |
| 14:57 |
Dyrcona |
@dessert |
| 14:57 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some Supreme Brownie Sundae for Dyrcona |
| 14:58 |
kmlussier |
Ooh! I would have been happy with brownies too. |
| 14:59 |
Dyrcona |
We had chocolate cake at my "going away party." |
| 15:00 |
Dyrcona |
For those who don't know, I'm going to C/W MARS in July. |
| 15:02 |
csharp |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:02 |
graced |
Dyrcona: good to know you're not going far |
| 15:03 |
graced |
I hear those people at C/W Mars are pretty nice. :) |
| 15:03 |
Dyrcona |
They are. :) |
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gsams |
@dessert |
| 15:37 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some Lemon Chess Pie for gsams |
| 15:37 |
* gsams |
sends the pie down to kmlussier. |
| 15:37 |
Dyrcona |
@coffee kmlussier |
| 15:37 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Bolivia Caranavi Cenaproc Co-op, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier |
| 15:37 |
gsams |
I wasn't looking for pie myself |
| 15:38 |
gsams |
@tea |
| 15:38 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Wild Snow Sprout Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to gsams (http://ratetea.com/tea/wild-tea-qi/wild-snow-sprout-tea/6447/) |
| 15:38 |
kmlussier |
gsams / Dyrcona: Thanks! |
| 15:38 |
gsams |
That sounds like a good cup of tea |
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| 15:52 |
bmills |
i'm putting in an index for the 505 $t and was wondering if anyone is using the search_normalize normalizer for added indexes for titles or just the naco_normalize version? |
| 15:55 |
Dyrcona |
bmills: Just a sec'... I believe we have one of those configured. |
| 15:55 |
kmlussier |
bmills: The default is search_normalize for most stock indexes. At least one MassLNC consortium, if not both, is in the process of moving to naco_normalize. |
| 15:55 |
bmills |
i saw http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=scratchpad:brush_up_search so had my curiosity piqued a bit |
| 15:56 |
kmlussier |
bmills: Yes, I started that page after the conference and have a few more things I want to add. |
| 15:59 |
Dyrcona |
bmills: We have the search normalizer and normalize date range applied to 505$t. |
| 16:00 |
bmills |
thanks Dyrcona! |
| 16:00 |
bmills |
kmlussier++ Dyrcona++ |
| 16:00 |
Dyrcona |
Dunno why the latter.... |
| 16:00 |
kmlussier |
bmills: I have a full explanation of how each of these normalization functions handle apostrophes at http://masslnc.org/node/3163 if you want more info. |
| 16:03 |
bmills |
kmlussier: thanks! |
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kmlussier |
Nice! I just sorted my 'harry potter' search by most popular, and the first result is Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. And that is why we're so excited about the new activity metric development. |
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