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05:39 sitalk Hello everyone
05:39 sitalk I am having a problem with disabling the apache2 document root on Debian Jessie.
05:39 sitalk I have used the command a2dissite 000-default
05:39 sitalk But I am still getting the "500 Internal server error". The apache2 error.log says:
05:39 sitalk “AH00128: File does not exist: /var/www/html/eg/opac/home”
05:40 sitalk Is there anything else that needs to be disabled?
05:40 sitalk Thanks in advance.
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06:33 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen!
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08:43 jeff kmlussier: good morning!
08:45 mmorgan Good morning, All!
09:11 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
09:11 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Colombia Pitalito Estate, and sends it sliding down the bar to mceraso
09:11 kmlussier @tea [someone]
09:11 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Bio Pao Chung Pouchong, and sends it sliding down the bar to egbuilder (http://ratetea.com/tea/teehaus-bachf​ischer/bio-pao-chung-pouchong/7609/)
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09:34 csharp @dessert [someone]
09:34 * pinesol_green grabs some Tiramisu for tsbere
09:34 tsbere Now if only I liked coffee
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09:43 mceraso Coffee! Just what I needed this morning. Thanks kmlussier!
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10:04 Bmagic @soso coffee
10:04 pinesol_green Bmagic: Sorry, that command is only available to Evergreen Premium™ Subscribers. Please upgrade your subscription ASAP!
10:04 Bmagic lol
10:04 Bmagic Evergreen Premium (TM) - now that is funny
10:09 Dyrcona @dunno
10:09 pinesol_green Dyrcona: http://images.cryhavok.org/​d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif
10:17 mmorgan I have a placing holds permission mystery that pops up occasionally that I can't figure out.
10:17 mmorgan It's related to new popular titles where some copies have age protection.
10:18 mmorgan Staff members attempt to place a hold for a patron and get the message:   Problem:   All available copies are temporarily unavailable at your pickup library. Placing this hold could result in longer wait times.
10:19 mmorgan Staff should be able to override this and place the hold anyway, but sometimes the don't get the option to override.
10:20 mmorgan Anyone run across something similar?
10:21 jeff In the case where staff don't get the override, is the error still the same?
10:21 jeff Does it differ from hold to hold for the same staff user?
10:22 jeff I know it's hard to get details on "occasional" issues like that...
10:23 mmorgan jeff: the error is the same. The staff user can attempt to place a hold on another record with age protected items and will get the override.
10:24 mmorgan The record I'm looking at is: http://evergreen.noblenet.org/​eg/opac/record/3738456?locg=1
10:26 Dyrcona I don't think we've seen that one, at least not that I am aware of.
10:26 mmorgan 9 copies are age protected. 6 are checked out. 2 are on the holds shelf. 1 is In Process
10:27 mmorgan 2 copies are not hodable, 1 is available, 1 is checked out.
10:27 mmorgan 1 copy is holdable, not age protected and In Process.
10:30 mmorgan When I've encountered this previously, the problem can go away if the circulation status or attributes of the copies change. It seems to be a certain combination of age protection, circulation status and holdability that causes the problem.
10:30 mmorgan One more data point. The pickup location for the attempted hold does NOT own a copy.
10:31 mmorgan That's my word problem for today ;-)
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10:35 Dyrcona mmorgan: 3 questions: What happens when the pickup point does own a copy? What happens if the hold is placed by staff at a library that owns the copy, but for pickup at one that doesn't?
10:35 Dyrcona What happens when a patron places the request through the OPAC?
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10:36 * Dyrcona also wonders if any org unit settings are involved, but I don't think so.
10:39 mmorgan Dyrcona: If the pickup point is a library that owns a copy, the hold is placed successfully.
10:39 Dyrcona That's what I expected.
10:42 mmorgan As a staff member at a library that owns a copy, if I attempt a hold with a pickup location that doesn't own the copy, the hold fails with the same error and no override.
10:43 kmlussier mmorgan: I'm guessing the non-age-protected, but holdable copy is one that was recently added?
10:44 kmlussier And the holds targeter hasn't picked up on it yet?
10:44 kmlussier Oh, sorry, I didn't see the part where you said they weren't getting an opportunity to override.
10:47 mmorgan The holdable, non-age-protected item is on order, with the status In Process, added in March.
10:47 * kmlussier is perplexed
10:48 sitalk I am having a problem with disabling the apache2 document root on Debian Jessie.
10:48 sitalk The default site has already been disabled by using the command “a2dissite 000-default”
10:48 sitalk However when trying to access <ip-address>/eg/opac/home I am getting the "500 Internal server error".
10:48 sitalk The apache2 error.log says:
10:48 sitalk “AH00128: File does not exist: /var/www/html/eg/opac/home”
10:48 sitalk Is there anything else that needs to be disabled?
10:49 Dyrcona sitalk: It sounds like you have not completely installed OpenSRF and Evergreen.
10:49 kmlussier mmorgan: Is there anything else that might block the hold beyond age protection? An issue with the patron's account?
10:50 Dyrcona mmorgan: Do the staff have the permission to override at the consortium depth? It could be a depth issue.
10:51 kmlussier I know this is hard to test in production, but I wonder if removing the two non-holdable copies (or making them holdable, but age-protected) would make the override appear.
10:52 Dyrcona mmorgan: Our staff have the ITEM_AGE_PROTECTED.override at depth 0.
10:52 Dyrcona Well, actually, all users have it at that depth.
10:54 Dyrcona sitalk: Did you a2ensite eg.conf?
10:54 sitalk Dyrcona: Yes. Also Evergreen was started successfully.
10:55 mmorgan Dyrcona: Users have that at depth 0 here, too.
10:56 Dyrcona sitalk: Did you install evergreen and opensrf to /openils? If so, you're apache config is wrong.
10:56 sitalk Dyrcona: I do not mind reinstalling. However, are there any particular rules for reinstalling OpenSRF and Evergreen, or they can be confidently installed on the top of the current installation?
10:56 Dyrcona sitalk: My advice is follow the READMEs exactly, and come here if you have any questions.
10:57 mmorgan kmlussier: the patron isn't blocked. I'm suspicious of the non-holdable copies, too.
10:58 Dyrcona mmorgan: I'm at a loss without really digging into the holds code, and don't have time for that at the moment.
10:59 csharp mmorgan: your problem rings a bell for me, but I'm not remembering all the details
10:59 Dyrcona sitalk: You should be able to install over the current installation. That's what we typically do for upgrades.
10:59 mmorgan Dyrcona: Thanks. I'll keep poking.
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11:00 sitalk Dyrcona: Thanks for the tip.
11:06 mmorgan Hmm. Interesting. A patron can place the hold with the same pickup point with no problem in the catalog.
11:15 mmorgan and my staff user with EVERYTHING can override.
11:16 * mmorgan ventures down the rabbit hole of staff user permissions...
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11:38 Bmagic anyone else notice that the mobile responsive design on the default OPAC is bugged in the "items out" ?
11:38 Bmagic couldnt find a bug report for it
11:40 terran Bmagic: there are definitely still some OPAC screens that still need more responsive design work
11:41 terran Bmagic: I tweaked a few things when doing our customizations for our last upgrade, but I was hoping to get back to it at some point (hasn't happened yet)
11:42 Bmagic It seems like the issue is the use of tables, but I might be wrong
11:46 terran Hrrm - I'm looking at my test server with 2.9 on it on the opac items out page and don't see anything egregiously broken
11:47 terran never mind, yes I do
11:52 bshum Patches welcome :)
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11:56 kmlussier Bmagic / terran: I could be misremembering, but I think NOBLE may have done some nice customizations to that screen to address that issue. I think that's one of the screens they were working on at the hack-a-way. I can follow up with them.
11:57 terran Thanks kmlussier!
11:57 Bmagic thanks!
11:57 Bmagic No since in reinventing the wheel
11:57 Bmagic since/sense
11:58 kmlussier I'm pretty sure that's the screen because I remember part of the issue was in making it easier to do renewals.
11:58 terran Bmagic: In style.css the responsive CSS at the bottom is acting like "Title / Author" is in one table cell, but it's really in two table cells
11:58 Bmagic interesting
11:58 Bmagic so, it's a minor fix then?
11:59 dbwells quick fix branch incoming...
11:59 terran The easiest fix would be to tweak the CSS there to refer to Title Author on two lines - I haven't done that particularly type of CSS, but it looks pretty easy
11:59 terran particularly = particular :D
12:01 dbwells Here's what I just did locally, seems fine now: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/​user/dbwells/fix_responsive_items_out
12:02 dbwells Probably easier to do by hand than apply the patch :)
12:03 dbwells I also didn't try to determine any history about if Title / Author used to be one column and are now separate (likely), or if the responsive OPAC was doing something fancier in earlier working versions.
12:04 dbwells Bmagic++ # thanks for pointing it out
12:05 Bmagic terran++ #paying the karma forward, nothing to do with me really
12:06 terran I need whatever karma I can get today!
12:06 terran dbwells++ for the quick fix
12:06 bshum Someone remember to LP that bug and link dbwells' fix on it.  So that we get it into a release someday
12:07 terran I think you're right about them being combined in one column in earlier versions - I think there were some other bugs around that initially that have already been fixed
12:07 dbwells bshum: I'll make a bug.  Or, you could just push it!
12:08 Bmagic pushit++
12:08 bshum dbwells: Well, the right thing to do would be to LP it for a number and then add it to your branch to push in.  Or yeah :)
12:09 bshum I'll just link it to the IRC log for today and call it even
12:09 bshum Then again
12:09 bshum Hmm, point release notes
12:09 bshum Do you just scour the changelog kmlussier?  Or do you actually check LP link too?
12:12 * dbwells goes about creating the bug, since that's easy enough
12:16 kmlussier bshum: I use the changelog and go back to LP if I need help understanding the git commit message.
12:17 dbwells okay, bug up, branch force-pushed with LP number in commit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1578716
12:17 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1578716 in Evergreen 2.9 "Responsive labels in Items Out do not line up" [Undecided,New]
12:20 bshum dbwells++
12:21 bshum yboston: For tracking, I added https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1578719 so that we eventually update the attributions page in docs
12:21 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1578719 in Evergreen "Change attributions page in docs to list DIG contributors" [Low,Triaged]
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12:27 bshum Hmm, looks like the column was split into two (title / author) in late 2012, and the mobile stuff was added in 2013.  So probably just a glitch we missed when adapting the code during that Hackaway when we did mobile stuff :\
12:27 bshum Oh well.
12:30 terran dbwells++
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12:38 terran @love iterative design
12:38 pinesol_green terran: The operation succeeded.  terran loves iterative design.
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12:52 mmorgan For the logs, granting ITEM_NOT_HOLDABLE.override to my staff user allowed the override option to show when placing the hold.
12:53 mmorgan Still odd, though, since patrons don't have that permission. Just glad it's working.
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12:54 Dyrcona mmorgan: It sounds like there is a mismatch determining holdable copies in the staff client.
12:54 mmorgan Dyrcona++ kmlussier++ rjackson-isl++ jeff++
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14:00 yboston fyi, the DIG monthly meeting is about to start
14:00 yboston #startmeeting DIG Monthly Meeting Evergreen Documentation Interest Group (DIG) Monthly Meeting
14:00 pinesol_green Meeting started Thu May  5 14:00:59 2016 US/Eastern.  The chair is yboston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to 'dig_monthly_meeting_evergreen_documentat​ion_interest_group__dig__monthly_meeting'
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14:01 yboston The agenda can be found here http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=​evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20160505-agenda
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14:01 yboston #topic Introductions
14:01 yboston Please feel free to start introducing yourselves...
14:01 yboston #info yboston is Yamil Suarez @ Berklee College of Music - DIG meeting facilitator
14:01 Christineb #info Christineb is Christine Burns @ BC Libraries Cooperative / Sitka
14:02 jihpringle #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka)
14:02 remingtron #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College)
14:02 Glen_ Hi, Glen from Ann Arbor.  Hello again!  Just sitting in.
14:03 yboston Glen_:  welcome
14:03 yboston I will wait one more minute before starting
14:04 terran #info
14:04 remingtron Glen_: welcome!
14:04 terran #info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES (just lurking)
14:04 yboston #topic last meeting's action items
14:05 yboston #info jihpringle will research the state of missing RDA content
14:05 yboston postpone or do you have somethign to report?
14:05 jihpringle postphone, I'll look into it once our upgrade is finished
14:05 yboston #action jihpringle will research the state of missing RDA content
14:05 yboston thanks
14:06 yboston #action yboston will move the undocumented content of the 2.8 new feature “TPAC Discoverability Enhancements” to its own section in the docs
14:06 yboston I am just goign to pre-emtively postpone that one :(
14:06 yboston #info kmlussier will document the general workflow for being DIG release coordinator
14:07 yboston I am not sure if she is aorund so I will postpone for now
14:07 yboston #action kmlussier will document the general workflow for being DIG release coordinator
14:07 yboston #info alynn26 will write to the DIG list to start discussion on DIG priorities before the next release in March
14:07 yboston I don’t hink Lynn is here but I am tempted to let this drop for now
14:08 yboston unless I hear otherwise I wil drop this action item
14:08 yboston the two next items were taking care of by jihpringle
14:08 yboston oen was an old doodle poll and the other was about updating the wiki page for new EG 2.10 features
14:09 yboston jihpringle++
14:09 yboston #info everyone please submit feedback to doc re-org agenda page http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=e​vergreen-docs:reorg_2014:agenda_2016-03-07
14:09 yboston If you have not provided feedback to thsi page feel free to do those
14:09 yboston *do so
14:10 yboston that is the end of the last meetign action items
14:10 yboston BTW, the “new business” section of the meeting agenda is outdated
14:11 jihpringle do we want to send a final reminder out to the lists about the doc reorg survey closing?
14:11 yboston sure
14:11 yboston is there someone that would like to colunteer?
14:11 yboston *volunteer
14:11 jihpringle sure
14:12 jihpringle I'll send it tomorrow and remind everyone they have two weeks left to complete it
14:12 yboston #action jihpringle will send out final reminder out to the lists about the doc reorg survey closing
14:13 yboston jihpringle++
14:13 jihpringle I have May 20th written down as the  deadline
14:13 yboston OK
14:13 sandbergja jihpringle++
14:13 yboston so under old busniess we had 2 topics and I added a third
14:13 yboston 1) Progress on Web Client docs
14:14 yboston 2) Progress on Docs Reorganization project
14:14 yboston 3) Progress on documenting late releases new features
14:14 yboston did we want to talk about the “old” business or do we want to talk about something else?
14:15 yboston on the topic of 2.10 features I am glad we put a dent on it during conference
14:15 yboston but we have more to do
14:15 yboston Here si where we stand http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.10_needs
14:16 jihpringle three more of them are complete, they're just not showing in the docs yet
14:16 yboston BTW, if anyone has partial work left over, feel free to send it in to the list
14:16 yboston if you let me/us know which ones we can update the page
14:17 jihpringle the ones we worked on at the conference
14:17 jihpringle I'll email you after
14:17 yboston thanks
14:18 yboston #action jihpringle will email yboston or maling list with 2.10 docs that were completed
14:19 yboston did we want to move on to another topic from the old busniess list, a compeltely different topic, or stay on the conference DIG work?
14:19 yboston BTW, I was really happy witht he collaboration we had going at the conference
14:20 yboston perhpas we can end early today if there is no strong need/desire to cover a particular topic right now
14:21 yboston BTW< one thing that came up from bshum is that he wants to change the wording of the attributions page
14:21 yboston LP 1578719
14:21 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1578719 in Evergreen "Change attributions page in docs to list DIG contributors" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1578719
14:22 yboston he mentioned it to me, and I agree the change makes sense (foolow link for more info)
14:22 yboston I just wanted to run it by the DIG group
14:22 jihpringle I think it makes a lot of sense
14:22 sandbergja Agreed
14:23 yboston sandbergja: Hello, I did not realize you were here
14:23 yboston did you want to talk about the re-org? any git comments or questions?
14:23 sandbergja just got here!
14:23 yboston I do have a git related comment for the group now that you are here
14:24 sandbergja I had some git confusion, but I think I should just work on it with you over email, yboston
14:24 yboston seems like the 2.10 HTML is not building properly
14:24 yboston the cahnges sandbergja made to the attributions page are not showing up
14:24 jihpringle do we have access to the build log for it?
14:25 yboston only Robert
14:25 yboston it is building fine on dev amd on the “docs-testing” server
14:25 sandbergja I could ask Robert to see if we can troubleshoot the issue together
14:25 yboston http://docs.evergreen-ils.​org/dev/attributions.html - here is the main dev version
14:26 sandbergja I was very curious about that myself!
14:26 yboston http://docs.evergreen-ils.​org/2.10/attributions.html - this is the main 2.10 version
14:26 jihpringle that explains my issue too, my additions are showing in dev
14:26 yboston http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils​.org/docs/2.10/attributions.html - here is the testing 2.10
14:26 remingtron I would expect the page to be blank if there was a build error
14:27 remingtron are we sure it was backported to 2.10?
14:27 yboston I can email Robert and icnlude you all to be on the same page
14:27 jihpringle I don't know how it works for these docs, but with ours if it runs into a problem it just keeps the last version that worked
14:27 yboston yes, the commits are there, unless a newer commit somhow undud the changes. then againt he testing server grabbed it correctly
14:28 remingtron yboston: you are right, git.evergreen-ils.org shows the updated file
14:28 remingtron here's the 2.10 version: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.gi​t;a=blob;f=docs/attributions.txt;h=3e6c629f3​d64a43b53be4ba1ac0aa110bd9d67c2;hb=rel_2_10
14:29 yboston BTW, normally I just email Robert directly and usually CC remingtron
14:29 yboston but I wanted to share my thought more openly since more folks are learning git :)
14:29 jihpringle yboston++
14:29 yboston just wanted to share my thought process
14:29 remingtron yboston: good plan
14:30 remingtron more communication is good!
14:30 yboston for example, it is helpful to check the actual doc server to make sure changes made it in
14:30 sandbergja I appreciate that!
14:30 yboston also usually when there is a problem it catch it when the PDF version does not get built
14:30 yboston but this time it is getting built
14:31 yboston I just checked the PDFs, and they are behaving like the HTML version
14:32 yboston dev has the change, but not 2.10
14:32 yboston I will set an action item
14:32 yboston #action yboston will email Robert to check in on the HTML & PDF build of the docs to see why soem changes are not shsowing up; will CC verious DIG members
14:33 yboston any other commetns or topics?
14:34 yboston FYI, I might take a minute to add some placehodler topics just for the meetbot minutes at the end of the meeting
14:34 yboston I almost forgot...
14:34 yboston gmcharlt++ gmcharlt++
14:34 remingtron yboston: I have a topic
14:35 remingtron ideas that came up at the conference
14:35 yboston for setting up the http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org
14:35 yboston go ahead
14:35 yboston #topic confernece ideas
14:35 yboston darn
14:36 yboston (go ahead)
14:36 remingtron #idea Add links in docs to Sitka doc videos on youtube
14:37 remingtron #idea Investigate fixing the Help menu link on the XUL client (just needs HTML help/doc files in the right place)
14:37 jihpringle I'll have a list of the ones that are still accurate for 2.10 by next week
14:38 remingtron #idea Work on integrating docs links into the Web Client
14:38 remingtron jihpringle++
14:39 remingtron here's a page explaining the XUL client help files:
14:39 remingtron #link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=scratchpad:custom_help
14:39 remingtron That's all from me, just a bunch of ideas
14:41 jihpringle I really like the idea of getting the docs integrated into the client (whether current, web or both)
14:42 yboston I suggest that we come up with a very short proposal for the list and for robert of how we would add teh stika videos
14:43 yboston just a short write up which URL would be used and what label.
14:43 yboston are we thinking of linking tot he sitka channel or point to soemspecific videos?
14:43 yboston any volunteer(s)?
14:44 remingtron specific videos on related docs chapters, if possible
14:44 jihpringle in our own docs we're adding links to specific videos to the relevant areas of the doc
14:44 yboston sounds like I have to look at the SITKA docs
14:44 remingtron jihpringle: do you have an example docs page to share?
14:44 remingtron with a video link?
14:44 jihpringle I'm grabbing one right now
14:44 jihpringle we just started adding them on Tuesday
14:45 jihpringle http://docs.sitka.bclibraries.ca/S​itka/sitka_2_10/html/circulation-c​heck-out.html#circ-checkout-precat
14:45 jihpringle we coded it so that the link opens in a new tab
14:45 remingtron jihpringle++
14:45 remingtron very nice
14:46 jihpringle so it's easier for the user to go back to the manual
14:46 jihpringle thanks :)
14:46 yboston jihpringle++
14:47 yboston we might need to keep track of which verison of EG the videos apply to
14:47 yboston though I don’t think that is a huge deal
14:47 jihpringle I'm currently putting together a spreadsheet to track that :)
14:48 jihpringle I'm working on figuring out which ones we made in 2.8 will still be correct for 2.10 (any videos that show functionality that wasn't changed in 2.10 we're adding to our 2.10 docs)
14:49 yboston Do you mention the version targetted int he videos? I would suggest goign forward to put a small not in the video desctipion with the version number
14:49 yboston (easier said than done)
14:49 jihpringle some of them have that in the video or the description
14:49 yboston cool
14:50 yboston I wonder how the links would behave in the PDF and epub version. I hoep they work, but I would still want to proceed if they don't
14:50 jihpringle they work in our pdf
14:50 yboston one mroe thing, does Sitka have plans to delete any older videos? concerned abotu “link rot” inthe future
14:51 jihpringle (I just tested)
14:51 yboston excellent on the testing
14:51 jihpringle no, we have no plans to delete the videos
14:51 yboston cool
14:51 jihpringle at this point we figure even it if it's not current for us it may be for someone else
14:52 yboston sitka++
14:52 yboston jihpringle++
14:52 jihpringle we may put something in the description to indicate that the videos are out of date for our members
14:52 yboston makes sense
14:52 jihpringle Christineb is the one who made most of the videos
14:52 jihpringle Christineb++
14:52 yboston Christineb++
14:53 Christineb :)
14:53 yboston any ideas of how to proceed with this idea?
14:54 yboston should we ask on the DIG list to see if anyone objects or just has any warnings?
14:54 yboston shoudl we start with a few links as a test?
14:54 Christineb We have asked our members for video suggestions - we could also ask DIG if they have any suggestions for short videos
14:54 jihpringle we should ask PINES about including their videos too
14:54 yboston shoudl we just discuss it further at the next meeting?
14:55 jihpringle I think that's a good idea
14:55 jihpringle we'll have everything organized on our end by then
14:55 yboston ok
14:56 yboston #action yboston add agenda item for discussing integrating Sitka/Pines/etc videos in the main docs for next meeting
14:56 yboston we are almost at the hour mark, any final comments or questions?
14:57 jihpringle are we going to have doc reorg meeting at some point?
14:58 yboston I think we just need to schedule one
14:58 yboston sandbergja: thoughts?
14:59 Christineb I will have more time to contribute after our upgrade
14:59 yboston looks like she is busy
15:00 yboston jihpringle: could you ping her about it?
15:00 jihpringle will do
15:00 yboston thanks
15:00 jihpringle np
15:00 yboston OK folks, I will wrap up
15:01 yboston #topic troublehoot EG 2.10 doc build
15:01 yboston #topic make changes to docs attributions section
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15:01 yboston #endmeeting
15:01 pinesol_green Meeting ended Thu May  5 15:01:32 2016 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:01 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-05-05-14.00.html
15:01 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-05-05-14.00.txt
15:01 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2016/evergreen.2016-05-05-14.00.log.html
15:01 jihpringle yboston++
15:01 remingtron oops, I lost track of the meeting...
15:02 Christineb yboston++
15:02 remingtron yboston++
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15:13 cfarley Hello, I have a bit of an issue I'm hoping to get some direction on.
15:14 cfarley I'm attempting to install evergreen on RHEL 7 and having a bit of an issue starting opensrf
15:14 cfarley Can't exec "opensrf_router": Permission denied at /openils/bin/osrf_control line 293.
15:14 cfarley Can't exec "opensrf-c": Permission denied at /openils/bin/osrf_control line 391.
15:14 cfarley Can't exec "opensrf-c": Permission denied at /openils/bin/osrf_control line 391.
15:15 * tsbere used to be a fan of RHEL....then he started trying to use things that weren't 5+ years old >_>
15:16 Dyrcona cfarley: First make sure that everything in /openils/bin is executable.
15:16 Dyrcona cfarley: If they are, disable selinux.
15:17 Dyrcona cfarley: If that fails, give up and switch to Debian.
15:17 cfarley lol, I set se linux to permissive already
15:18 Dyrcona Truth is no one in here uses RHEL, closest you'll get is some infrequent visitors who use Fedora.
15:18 cfarley Fair enough.
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15:20 cfarley So I have an unrelated question as well.  Once I get this working...likely in ubuntu...
15:21 cfarley I will want to setup a single location for our "library".  Where is the best level to set that up in the heirarchy?
15:21 Dyrcona cfarley: I'd recommend setting up a new system and branch under a consortium.
15:22 tsbere I dunno, very little expects actual depth levels these days, so a single top level org unit would probably work too.
15:22 Dyrcona You can blow the defaults away in the database and put in anything you like, but it will work best with a consortium, system, and branch.
15:23 cfarley OK, I know I had issues in the past with reporting not working and I think it was because I screwed something up when I originally set it up.
15:24 cfarley It also messed with permissions.
15:24 Dyrcona As tsbere said, some of those issues have been fixed.
15:25 cfarley Ok, great!
15:25 cfarley Thank you both for the help.  I'll bang my head against RHEL for a bit longer before I give up.
15:26 Dyrcona I know some folks got it to work on CentOS a while ago, but after much pain.
15:26 Dyrcona I even heard of someone, *cough* jlitrell *cough* who got Evergreen working on gentoo.
15:27 * Dyrcona uses Ubuntu.
15:27 jlitrell :-D
15:28 jlitrell Not sure I'd recommend it unless you're a masochist like I am.
15:28 Dyrcona :)
15:30 jlitrell bsd would be more interesting, I think.  Who was doing that, berick?
15:32 cfarley so looks like I had just messed up my $PATH definition.
15:34 cfarley On to attempt the actual evergreen install :)
15:35 Dyrcona cfarley: Cool. I didn't think of that.
15:36 Dyrcona jlitrell: Yeah, berick started it and I worked on it some. There is an old branch in the working repo.
15:39 Bmagic nice! gentoo!
15:39 Dyrcona Getting Evergreen to work on FreeBSD should make it easier to get it working on other linux distros besides those based on Debian.
15:41 jlitrell I'll throw some beers at Theo to help.  :)
15:42 Dyrcona Theo would be OpenBSD, and I use that, too, but mostly for network gear.
15:43 jlitrell obsd is bestbsd
15:44 Dyrcona Well, depends on what you're doing, really, but yeah, I like it.
15:44 Dyrcona I find the documentation to be excellent and the configuration to be dead simple.
15:44 Dyrcona FreeBSD has excellent documentation, too.
15:45 Dyrcona Don't tell anyone, but for certain loads and types of work, FreeBSD is faster than Linux.
15:45 jlitrell Yeah, somehow I always wind up checking those man pages instead of the Linux ones.
15:45 jlitrell Oh, desktop-wise, I always found it noticeably faster.
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