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Dyrcona |
@tea |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Golden Orchid, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona (http://ratetea.com/tea/whispering-pines/golden-orchid/7244/) |
| 08:12 |
jeff |
so that worked well: stood up two new Elasticsearch nodes, decommissioned the two previous ones (which were both running on the same VM as each other). |
| 08:13 |
jeff |
other than pointing IPs (because i wasn't using multicast discovery) and ensuring things were properly firewalled, there was very little to do other than watch as things re-balanced. |
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Dyrcona |
mail2world: Their whole job is sending email, and they can't process bounce messages correctly. |
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Dyrcona |
I have some crazy questions about SuperCat, but probably need to wait for the right people to be in channel. |
| 08:27 |
miker |
Dyrcona: I'll answer when I can... |
| 08:28 |
Dyrcona |
miker: From experimentation, it appears that eg.keyword is the same as eg.keyword+exact. |
| 08:28 |
Dyrcona |
In SRU, that is. |
| 08:28 |
jeff |
miker: also for the benefit of the logs, were you referring to ALTER TABLE SET STATISTICS on some/all of the tables that make up actor.org_unit_descendants, or is there a way to SET STATISTICS on a view itself? |
| 08:28 |
Dyrcona |
I'd like to change it so eg.keyword is like eg.keyword+all |
| 08:30 |
miker |
Dyrcona: seems reasonable. that should be fairly straight-forward IIRC, but I'd have to look at the sru transformation code |
| 08:31 |
Dyrcona |
I was trying to find that yesterday but was distracted at the time. |
| 08:31 |
miker |
jeff: nosir. alter function ... rows {some-reasonable-number} |
| 08:31 |
jeff |
miker: aha! thanks! |
| 08:31 |
Dyrcona |
miker: I'll see what I can dig up today. If I have to change for all search types at once, I can deal. |
| 08:31 |
Dyrcona |
My main goal is to get more results in z39.50. |
| 08:31 |
jeff |
and yes, s/view/function/ in my original question. :-) |
| 08:32 |
* Dyrcona |
wonders if he shouldn't just hack simpl2zoom.... |
| 08:32 |
Dyrcona |
simple, even. ;) |
| 08:42 |
miker |
Dyrcona: so, this is going from memory and looking at CQL::TermNode::toEvergreen ... IIRC, SRU defines sematics for search without a modifier as "look for the exact substring". one is expected to add something like cql.word as a modifier to get "find all the words". that said, it's surprising compared to our default behavior (and, say, google's) |
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Dyrcona |
miker: Thanks! That helps a bit. |
| 08:47 |
Dyrcona |
Heh. Just went to save a PDF file from the 'net to discover that I saved it already in 2012..... |
| 08:52 |
miker |
Dyrcona: the default base is scr. that's "server choice" IIRC, so we could legit make that $quote_it=0 and get the same behavior as "all" ... not sure if that breaks sru rules or not |
| 08:53 |
miker |
hrm, no, default relation base is "=" |
| 08:53 |
miker |
but, same applies, I think |
| 08:53 |
Dyrcona |
miker: Thanks. I don't want to take up too much of your time. That gives me somewhere to look. |
| 08:54 |
miker |
anyway... sru can match opac sematics, we just need to decide if we want to break library rules, or break normal people's expectations ;) |
| 08:56 |
Dyrcona |
miker: I'm not sure what "normal" people's expectations are, but I'm pretty sure that they expect to do a keyword search for "king dead zone" and not get 0 results, when we have 8. :) |
| 08:57 |
Dyrcona |
Guess I have to read a 276 page standards document to really learn how to search z39.50. |
| 08:58 |
Dyrcona |
Sadly enough, this http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:sru_and_z39.50 is the best document that I can find with actual examples. |
| 08:58 |
miker |
sure, I agree. we could certainly have $quote_it=0 where $qualifier eq 'kw' and the base isn't 'exact' |
| 09:02 |
Dyrcona |
When I started on this, I was just thinking of making the change locally and suggesting it to other Evergreen sites interfacing with the Auto-Graphics ILL system.... |
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| 09:09 |
miker |
Dyrcona: seems reasonable to figure out how to supply default modifiers if the sru client doesn't supply them ... new column (default_cql_modifier) on config.metabib_search_alias? |
| 09:10 |
Dyrcona |
miker: That is a good idea for something shareable...setting a default modifier. |
| 09:10 |
miker |
hrm... there's a mailing list question (and maybe a bug?) about differences between dc.title and bare title searches via z3950/sru, and the else of the 'if ($qualifier)' branch would explain that... |
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kmlussier |
Who has the ability to push to the history repo? |
| 09:29 |
kmlussier |
yboston had suggested it might be good to use the history repo as a practice exercise on the MassLNC git day if we have people who don't have a code or doc change to push to working. |
| 09:30 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: should be everybody with a registered key, but I'll double-check |
| 09:31 |
tsbere |
kmlussier: You could always use the random repo |
| 09:31 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: and yep, everybody can |
| 09:31 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Thanks! |
| 09:32 |
kmlussier |
tsbere: Yeah, I don't think the random repo would work in this instance. The history.txt file just seemed like an easy thing to edit if we need a quickie project for somebody to work on. |
| 09:32 |
kmlussier |
For example, they could update release info. |
| 09:33 |
kmlussier |
And conference and hack-a-way dates. |
| 09:34 |
kmlussier |
yboston++ #Pointing me in the direction of the history repo. |
| 09:35 |
gmcharlt |
and in terms of making a virtue of necesesity, the many releases not recorded in the middle gives an opportunity for practicing dealing with merge conflicts |
| 10:25 |
Dyrcona |
Ha! When I try advanced search on the Auto-graphics system, and choose "all" of these terms or "exactly this phrase" it gets translated into the same SRU search on our end. |
| 10:25 |
Dyrcona |
If I choose "any" of these terms, "or" gets plastered all over the place. |
| 10:35 |
Dyrcona |
The simple keyword search does the same as advanced search "all" and "exact." |
| 11:01 |
Dyrcona |
Does anyone have a logrotate configuration for oils_z3950.log? |
| 11:03 |
* jwoodard |
finally figured out the MARC batch edit feature!! |
| 11:06 |
berick |
jwoodard++ |
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kmlussier |
I'm reviewing the web client doc page in preparation for tomorrow's web client hacking day. http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:webclient |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
Just experimenting looks like I'll need to stop z3950 during the log rotation.... |
| 11:23 |
kmlussier |
For installing the web client preview, I see there is a link to a draft bshum wrote. Does anyone know if those instructions are good to go? |
| 11:23 |
kmlussier |
Or maybe we should add that as a task for tomorrow. Reviewing the install documentation. |
| 11:24 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm. a restart after might work... |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
Did the actual instructions for installing the web staff client get merged into master? |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
I can never remember "trivial" things. |
| 11:25 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: I don't see it, but I could be missing something |
| 11:27 |
Dyrcona |
The websockets instructions are in the OpenSRF README. |
| 11:27 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: I don't think they've been merged into the README, yet. |
| 11:27 |
Dyrcona |
I thought I wanted that for 2.9, but looks like it didn't happen. |
| 11:28 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: OK, do you happen to know if the instructions are correct? |
| 11:29 |
Dyrcona |
Section 4.1 can be modified for Ubuntu, at least. You can install the ubuntu-trusty-developer prerequisites instead of doing the steps listed there. |
| 11:30 |
Dyrcona |
That's probably true on recent Debian, too. |
| 11:31 |
Dyrcona |
I can fix that up after verifying some things later, if you like. |
| 11:32 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Thanks! |
| 11:32 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona++ |
| 11:36 |
Dyrcona |
dbwells++ # for pointing out the P in PCRUD. :) |
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Dyrcona |
And I swear I got fleshed data from open-ils.auth.session.retrieve, but maybe that was hallucination. |
| 11:48 |
kmlussier |
One DIG action item down, several more to go. |
| 11:56 |
kmlussier |
Yikes. 2.10 feature slush is not that far away, is it? |
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hopkinsju |
We did an upgrade over this past weekend and ever since coming back up we've been fighting a problem with dogpiling queries. Most seem to be related to selects from metabib.suggest_browse_entries. Has anyone else seen this or something similar? We upgraded to EG 2.9.1 and PG 9.2 and this is really giving us a tough week. |
| 12:45 |
hopkinsju |
Plus Bmagic is out for the rest of the week so it's left to the b-team ;-) |
| 12:46 |
hopkinsju |
I've got dozens of queries from metabib.suggest_browse_entries running for > 30 minutes. It's really not good for the CPU. |
| 12:53 |
kmlussier |
Wish I could help, but none of our sites use autosuggest due to the accessibility issues. |
| 12:54 |
miker |
hopkinsju: likely bad stats on metabib.browse_entry and friends. analyze the whole db (and kill all those queries) as a first step. without looking at the db, though, hard to say more. |
| 12:57 |
hopkinsju |
miker sounds like good advice. I was thinking along similar lines. |
| 13:02 |
Dyrcona |
miker: Not quoting for ($base eq '=' && $qualifier eq 'kw') works, except when the $term is already quoted. :) |
| 13:04 |
miker |
Dyrcona: that seems an eminently reasonable exception |
| 13:04 |
Dyrcona |
miker: Well the trouble is, the vendor is sening @attr 1=1016 "kind dead zone" as the query, so I'm gonna have to strip the quotes... |
| 13:05 |
Dyrcona |
Interestingly, @attr 1=1016 king+dead+zone works. |
| 13:05 |
Dyrcona |
The string with spaces without quotes, throws up a parse error in yaz-client. |
| 13:05 |
miker |
at some point, + turns into a space. I think in the URL when used in cgi params |
| 13:06 |
Dyrcona |
Yes, it does. I usually use + instead of %20 in urls. |
| 13:06 |
miker |
or, inside the CGI module |
| 13:06 |
Dyrcona |
It's part of the URL standards for query strings, I think. |
| 13:07 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, I'm going to strip quote in my local experiment if $quote_it is false. |
| 13:07 |
Dyrcona |
Just from the begginning and end. |
| 13:07 |
miker |
seems logical |
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mllewellyn |
Is anyone around who uses acquisitions EDI with Baker & Taylor including GIR information? |
| 13:27 |
kmlussier |
mllewellyn: I think C/W MARS uses it, but their acq person rarely comes into the IRC channel. |
| 13:27 |
kmlussier |
No, actually, it looks like they're using it with Ingram. |
| 13:28 |
mllewellyn |
Ah. I'll try posting on the Cataloger's list. We've done GIR with Brodart, but B&T needed an alternate version of the library SAN, and Ben worked out where to put that. |
| 13:28 |
mllewellyn |
But now they want something else added to the EDI order message, and I don't know how to do that. |
| 13:29 |
mllewellyn |
They tell me, "For the processing of the Enriched AV we need the LOC segment to be added as mandatory and it needs to contain “multi”, as in example below. " |
| 13:29 |
mllewellyn |
FTX+LIN+1' PRI+AAB:25.99' RFF+LI:21423/420651' LOC+7+multi::92' UNS+S' CNT+2:1' |
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| 13:30 |
mllewellyn |
I tried looking at a Brodart order with GIR to see if theirs has it, but I don't see it. |
| 13:30 |
mllewellyn |
B&T has so many freaking hoops to jump through for AV material. |
| 13:31 |
berick |
mllewellyn: in the stock EDI template, there is a special case to format the buyer / library SAN differently for BT. I wonder if it's related to what you're looking for. |
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* berick |
finds the code |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
We got the SAN part settled. |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
# Custom B&T codes for Bridgeport AV materials ---------- |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1055'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END; |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1056'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END; |
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mllewellyn |
IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1054'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END; |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1053'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END; |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1020'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END; |
| 13:31 |
mllewellyn |
IF VENDACCT == '336033V' AND VENDCODE == '1084'; ORG_UNIT_SAN = '336033V'; END; |
| 13:32 |
mllewellyn |
I can't figure where this LOC thing comes in. |
| 13:32 |
berick |
mllewellyn: oh! I should have finished reading.. |
| 13:33 |
mllewellyn |
I wish it were the SAN issue. :( |
| 13:35 |
mllewellyn |
From our test order. They added the LOC line to show me what they're expecting. |
| 13:35 |
mllewellyn |
UNB+UNOB:3+336033V:31B+1556150:31B+160113:1310+1' UNH+1+ORDERS:D:96A:UN' BGM+220+21423+9' DTM+137:20160113:102' NAD+BY+336033V 1084::91' NAD+SU+1556150::31B' NAD+SU+2563::92' CUX+2:USD:9' LIN+420651++6315949045:IB' PIA+5+6315949045:IB' IMD+F+BTI+:::Cinderella' IMD+F+BPU+:::Walt Disney Pictures,' IMD+F+BPD+:::2015.' IMD+F+BPH+:::1 videodisc (112 min.) ' QTY+21:5' GIR+001+BRDGOM:LLO++1:LQT+acquisitions:LST+ |
| 13:37 |
berick |
mllewellyn: hm, we use the LCO (copy id) field, but I don't recall using LOC |
| 13:38 |
* Dyrcona |
misspoke earlier. I don't have to strip quotes off the term. I misunderstood my error. :) |
| 13:38 |
mllewellyn |
This is for Enriched AV processing. |
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berick |
hmm, delivery location |
| 13:41 |
mllewellyn |
berick: that makes sense. Multi deliveries |
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berick |
mllewellyn: i could be wrong, but it does not appear that our EDI code (specifically, the ruby parsing/mapping code) can accommodate that field. |
| 13:46 |
berick |
support for that might have to be added |
| 13:46 |
mllewellyn |
OK, that's something I can tell her. |
| 13:46 |
mllewellyn |
berick: thanks for checking |
| 13:47 |
berick |
all the more reason to drop the ruby stuff and do inline edi. *sigh* some day i'll get back to working on that. |
| 13:49 |
miker |
1000x that -^ |
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mllewellyn |
berick + |
| 13:54 |
csharp |
b&t-- |
| 13:54 |
csharp |
fortunately none of our libraries on acq are using them |
| 13:55 |
rfrasur |
well, B&T is good at sending books to libraries, so there's that. Tech support? maybe not so much. |
| 13:56 |
graced |
Reminder: EOB meeting here in 5 minutes |
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| 14:00 |
yboston |
heads up the EG board meetign is about to start |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#startmeeting Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting 2016-01-21 |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Jan 21 14:00:30 2016 US/Eastern. The chair is yboston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_oversight_board_meeting_2016_01_21' |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#info meeting agenda: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2016-January/001191.html |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#topic introductions |
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rfrasur |
#info rfrasur is Ruth Frasur, Hagerstown Library, Evergreen Indiana |
| 14:01 |
graced |
#info graced is Grace Dunbar, Equinox |
| 14:01 |
yboston |
#info yboston is Yamil Suarez - Berklee College of Music - EOB member |
| 14:01 |
csharp |
#info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS |
| 14:01 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman Andrea Buntz Neiman, Kent County Public Library |
| 14:01 |
SHerbert |
#info SHerbert = Sharon Herbert, Sitka/BC Libraries Cooperative |
| 14:01 |
tanyap |
#info tanyap Tanya Prokrym, NC Cardinal |
| 14:02 |
mllewellyn |
#info mllewellyn -- Bibliomation, Connecticut |
| 14:02 |
tspindler |
#info tspindler - Tim Spindler, C/W MARS |
| 14:02 |
yboston |
Chauncey sends his regrets, though he may join late |
| 14:02 |
mllewellyn |
#info mllewellyn Mary Llewellyn -- Bibliomation |
| 14:03 |
yboston |
we have quorum |
| 14:03 |
yboston |
#topic 2. Minutes/actions from last meeting |
| 14:03 |
yboston |
#link http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-11-19-14.00.html |
| 14:03 |
yboston |
#info bshum to get further list feedback on 10% budget approval interpretation. |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
not sure if this was done already |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
or if we need a new volunteer for it |
| 14:04 |
graced |
I will volunteer to clarify |
| 14:04 |
rfrasur |
Thank you, Grace. |
| 14:04 |
tspindler |
I forget, what was needed to clarify |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
#action graced to get further list feedback on 10% budget approval interpretation. |
| 14:05 |
graced |
I think there was email discussion but no formal decision. I'll revisit and send an email to everyone next week. |
| 14:05 |
tspindler |
was it 10% of conference budget? |
| 14:05 |
yboston |
tspindler: I believe so |
| 14:05 |
graced |
tspindler: yes, that was the issue |
| 14:05 |
csharp |
the question was whether the 10% was per line item or the whole budget |
| 14:05 |
yboston |
csharp++ |
| 14:06 |
tspindler |
thanks, I remember that |
| 14:06 |
kmlussier |
Or per major section of the budget. |
| 14:06 |
abneiman |
csharp++ that was indeed the question |
| 14:06 |
graced |
go Mr. Secretary! ;) |
| 14:06 |
* csharp |
straightens tie |
| 14:06 |
yboston |
can I move on or do we want to stay on this longer? |
| 14:06 |
graced |
I say move on - we've got a full agenda |
| 14:06 |
abneiman |
onward |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
#info graced to wrangle conference standing committee members and see how previous conferences dealt with refund policy; then craft suggested wording for group discussion/vote |
| 14:07 |
rfrasur |
I think with Grace getting clarification, onward is correctward. |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
graced: would you like to defer for next time? |
| 14:07 |
graced |
I would, sorry and thank you |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
no problem |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
#action graced to wrangle conference standing committee members and see how previous conferences dealt with refund policy; then craft suggested wording for group discussion/vote |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
no more past meeting action items |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
#topic EG 2016 Conference Update |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
tanyap: do you have an update for us today? |
| 14:09 |
tanyap |
i will provide some statistics on the conference. we will be making a big push next week for sponsorships. here goes: |
| 14:09 |
tanyap |
43 proposals were submitted. The program committee has some questions for the EOB. see the following link. |
| 14:09 |
tanyap |
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x7l2iYfLI93g3V4Qv-4T46-GA8CUNUF5MKRMQfDNKWY/edit#gid=1589049103 |
| 14:10 |
tanyap |
The committee would like to accomodate all proposals if possible. They have contacted several of the speakers to see if they will combine talks. |
| 14:11 |
tanyap |
one question - they wish to propose a lunch session where from 11:45-12:30 people grab something quick for lunch, which they can bring back to the session, if they choose. We would have the round-table lunch sessions start in one of the rooms at 12:30 and end at 1:15. |
| 14:12 |
tanyap |
or I can add another room to the budget (4th room) during one of the session times. The cost is $1280. |
| 14:12 |
graced |
I would say brown bag lunch.... any possibility of getting some food trucks to park nearby? |
| 14:12 |
tspindler |
lunch program sounds better to me, I don't know the venue so is it easy to grab a lunch and attend? |
| 14:13 |
csharp |
there are lots of restuarants around that hotel |
| 14:13 |
csharp |
(site of Code4Lib 2014) |
| 14:13 |
tanyap |
there are a great number of places to eat outside the door of the hotel. we can check on food trucks; |
| 14:13 |
abneiman |
As long as there are quick carry-out options then I'm fine brown-bagging |
| 14:13 |
csharp |
I don't remember food trucks, but plenty of options |
| 14:13 |
tanyap |
food trucks usually are there only from May - Sept. |
| 14:14 |
csharp |
tanyap: I think it's a reasonable solution to a very common scheduling dilemma for our conferences |
| 14:14 |
rfrasur |
I think 45 minutes is plenty of time to source some gnosh and head back. |
| 14:14 |
csharp |
we had a couple of special interest groups (acq, at least) do the same last year |
| 14:14 |
tanyap |
there are 2 proposals for consortium leaders. we were thinking during a breakfast to continue the consortium leaders breakfasts started in Hood River? |
| 14:15 |
* rfrasur |
nods at csharp |
| 14:15 |
graced |
+1 to consortial breakfast continuation if the A/V needs can be handled |
| 14:16 |
csharp |
feedback I got about those breakfast meetings was positive |
| 14:16 |
tanyap |
ok. i will look into that. people can grab their food and take it to another room for the presentation. |
| 14:16 |
yboston |
tanyap: you mentioned that you suggested to folks to combine sessions. How long are the session going to be? |
| 14:16 |
tanyap |
perhaps we can set up one of the rooms a bit early. i'll check. |
| 14:17 |
tanyap |
We were using the time slots that Hood River used. |
| 14:17 |
graced |
45 minutes? |
| 14:17 |
rfrasur |
It was good. I'd like to see that continue. On the spreadsheet, you have a proposal from PINES and Equinox, and you'd like them both at that breakfast? |
| 14:17 |
tanyap |
There were only 2 or 3 combined proposals which you can see in the link I sent. |
| 14:18 |
gmcharlt |
rfrasur: there's more than one breakfast |
| 14:18 |
tanyap |
That is what the Program Committee is suggesting. We wanted to get your input first. |
| 14:18 |
graced |
rfrasur: there was a breakfast session for consortium leaders each morning. |
| 14:18 |
yboston |
tanyap: thanks |
| 14:18 |
rfrasur |
Gotcha. I was actually there, but the brain is foggy today. |
| 14:19 |
tanyap |
yes. could be different breakfast presentations for the consortium leaders; one per day. |
| 14:19 |
csharp |
@coffee rfrasur |
| 14:19 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of La Esmeralda, and sends it sliding down the bar to rfrasur |
| 14:19 |
rfrasur |
perfect, thank you |
| 14:19 |
tanyap |
Should I tell them you are not adverse to their suggestions and to start piecing together a possible schedule? |
| 14:19 |
csharp |
tanyap: for my part, yes |
| 14:20 |
graced |
tanyap: I think that's the consensus. |
| 14:20 |
graced |
Any more questions about conference programming? |
| 14:20 |
rfrasur |
tanyap: yes |
| 14:20 |
tanyap |
ok. onto registrations; we have 48 registrations to date; 22 for preconferences. |
| 14:20 |
tanyap |
I'm hoping the schedule and the list of EXCELLENT proposals will stimulate registrations. |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
It will. |
| 14:21 |
graced |
I wouldn't worry - they tend to pick up in February... |
| 14:21 |
csharp |
tanyap: that's the pattern, in my experience |
| 14:21 |
tanyap |
We have $10,600 sponsorship monies to go. We are pushing those heavily next week. |
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| 14:21 |
csharp |
GPLS is offering scholarships to 10 PINES library staff to attend too |
| 14:22 |
tanyap |
excellent. I haven't signed up yet myself because of our State Library process. |
| 14:22 |
abneiman |
csharp that's awesome! |
| 14:22 |
csharp |
(thereby removing basically every reasonable obstacle to attendance, since we're so close geographically) |
| 14:22 |
rfrasur |
I know that EG Indiana employees have to go through the state process to attend which takes a little longer. |
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| 14:23 |
tanyap |
Grace suggested PV SUPA, Lyrasis, Envisionware (ignoring me), and Ingram (ignoring me). |
| 14:23 |
yboston |
BTW, I believe the board has not picked the exact time to meet yet during the conference |
| 14:23 |
tanyap |
no, you need to do that. Any questions on sponsorships? |
| 14:23 |
abneiman |
yboston: this is correct |
| 14:23 |
yboston |
(for when we are done talking about sponsorships) |
| 14:23 |
tanyap |
We are working on it. |
| 14:24 |
graced |
tanyap: please feel free to hand some of those to me and Shae, we may have different/better contacts at those vendors. |
| 14:24 |
abneiman |
tanyap: I'm an Envisionware customer, if you want I can try to poke them |
| 14:24 |
csharp |
tanyap: you might reach out to Elizabeth here at GPLS too - she's a good sponsor wrangler |
| 14:24 |
tspindler |
tanyap: we are an envisionware customer also |
| 14:24 |
tanyap |
thank you to you both! I will follow up. |
| 14:25 |
tanyap |
ok. GA PINES is sponsoring part of the reception (bday cake and champagne and a band) |
| 14:25 |
yboston |
nice |
| 14:25 |
tanyap |
i will follow up for sure with you then! |
| 14:26 |
graced |
tanyap: are there any other Board questions or assistance you ened from us? |
| 14:26 |
tanyap |
the last item I had was that the graphics designer has some mockups for the program cover. I will send that along; she is finalizing them. |
| 14:26 |
rfrasur |
Awesome :D |
| 14:26 |
tanyap |
For those that offered with the sponsorships, that's great! I think we have everything else in hand. |
| 14:27 |
csharp |
tanyap++ |
| 14:27 |
graced |
sounds good, thanks tanyap |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
tanyap: BTW, two years ago when I participated in a conference committee there was an issue with the copyright of the graphics and logo |
| 14:27 |
abneiman |
tanyap++ |
| 14:27 |
tanyap |
you mean for the program brochure and room signs? |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
tanyap: I vahuely remember that the SFC wanted the logos to be owned by the community/board? |
| 14:28 |
yboston |
the logo for the confrence, I believe |
| 14:28 |
yboston |
*conference |
| 14:28 |
graced |
yboston: should we wait until the programming committee finalizes their program times before we propose our EOB meeting time? |
| 14:28 |
tanyap |
oh. I can contact Tony then. He has seen the conference logo. |
| 14:28 |
yboston |
graced: that makes sense |
| 14:29 |
abneiman |
IIRC (tanyap please correct) we're fairly set on program times. |
| 14:29 |
tanyap |
you bring up a question. does the evergreen conference logo go on everything for example the badge holders and the tote bag sponsored by vendors? |
| 14:29 |
yboston |
tanyap: if the SFC is aware and have not mentioned anything, then we might be all set |
| 14:29 |
tanyap |
I will double-check anyway on the logo. |
| 14:29 |
tanyap |
Does the EOB validate/approve the badge holders and tate bags? |
| 14:30 |
yboston |
tanyap: also, on the board meeting time do you need soemthing from us now? do you need more time? |
| 14:30 |
tanyap |
tote bag...sorry! |
| 14:30 |
tanyap |
Jonathan and Jennifer will put something together and give you some options. Does that sound ok? |
| 14:30 |
yboston |
tanyap: also, I assuem that there will be time for some community anoucnements on Friday or saturday morning? |
| 14:30 |
graced |
the EOB does not approve the tote bags and badge holders |
| 14:30 |
yboston |
usually the board and developers will speak for a bit |
| 14:31 |
tanyap |
yes. announcements and keynote etc will follow the Oregon program primarily. We will pass the schedule by the EOB. |
| 14:31 |
tanyap |
I think Saturday had joint meetings with developer updates, etc. |
| 14:31 |
graced |
tanyap: for the EOB meeting: I think we all were looking toward a morning meeting that didn't conflict with any sessions. We could probably do lunch, though. |
| 14:31 |
yboston |
tanyap: I am not asking for my aproval, I just want to plan that the board meets before we are expected to present |
| 14:32 |
abneiman |
And after elections conclude, so that new members can be present at the meeting. |
| 14:32 |
graced |
and as yboston said: before Saturday morning. :) |
| 14:32 |
abneiman |
And not post-reception, LOL |
| 14:32 |
tanyap |
ok. that seems logical in terms of meeting before presenting. I'll talk with Jennifer and Jonathan about that. |
| 14:32 |
graced |
abneiman++ |
| 14:32 |
rfrasur |
Please not post reception. |
| 14:32 |
csharp |
evening_meetings-- |
| 14:33 |
tanyap |
ok. I hear you. |
| 14:33 |
graced |
okay then, I suspect we've beaten the conference to death at this point. ;-) |
| 14:33 |
tanyap |
are you all coming in on Wednesday for the hackfast or pre-conferences? just checking... |
| 14:33 |
yboston |
I am |
| 14:33 |
csharp |
I am |
| 14:33 |
abneiman |
Yes |
| 14:33 |
graced |
yes |
| 14:34 |
rfrasur |
On Tuesday afternoon |
| 14:34 |
tspindler |
I will not be at the conference this year |
| 14:34 |
tanyap |
what about a conference room for you during a lunch? |
| 14:34 |
SHerbert |
I'm aiming for Wednesday |
| 14:34 |
graced |
tanyap: that would probably work fine |
| 14:34 |
csharp |
tanyap: that works for me |
| 14:34 |
rfrasur |
tspindler, it seems we've talked about this previously. Would you potentially be available to Skype/GoogleHangout in? |
| 14:35 |
tspindler |
rfrasur: yes, that would work |
| 14:35 |
abneiman |
As long as I"m not double-booked with the Circ Roundtable, lunch is fine with me. As rfrasure says we will need some manner of outside communication. |
| 14:35 |
rfrasur |
Will the voting be done by Wednesday? |
| 14:35 |
yboston |
tspindler: count on me to try to connect you in during the meeting |
| 14:35 |
tanyap |
ok. i've taken notes and we will propose a time for you. |
| 14:35 |
graced |
rfrasur: Since we control when the voting happens, yes, it can be done |
| 14:35 |
graced |
:) |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
:) |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
graced++ |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
unless there is anything else, thank you very much tanyap |
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| 14:36 |
graced |
tanyap++ thanks! |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
Thank you, tanyap++ |
| 14:36 |
tspindler |
tanyap++ |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
#topic Financial Report |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
I do not have a fancial report for today |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
I never had access, and Galen currently has no access |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
I may need to work with csharp to contact the SFC |
| 14:37 |
graced |
indeed |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
to give Galen and me access |
| 14:37 |
rfrasur |
csharp, that's you right now? |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
though I need training too |
| 14:37 |
gmcharlt |
yboston: and I'm happy to do that |
| 14:38 |
yboston |
anyway, my term ends at the conference |
| 14:38 |
rfrasur |
(No pressure for the rest of us) |
| 14:38 |
yboston |
I don't mind being a back up goign forward, but we need to train someone on the board |
| 14:38 |
gmcharlt |
btw, there's a project (slow but steady) with Conservancy that should result in web access to the ledger at some point this year |
| 14:38 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:38 |
rfrasur |
web_access++ |
| 14:38 |
SHerbert |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:38 |
yboston |
#action csharp & yboston will work on gettign Galen and yboston access to get the fianncial reports through the SFC |
| 14:39 |
yboston |
gmcharlt: good to know |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
I'm happy to help |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
(sorry - stepped away for a sec) |
| 14:39 |
yboston |
I plan to move on to the release update, unless there are more comments/questions? |
| 14:39 |
rfrasur |
@penance csharp |
| 14:39 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: If all else fails, try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
rfrasur++ |
| 14:40 |
rfrasur |
yboston, sounds great |
| 14:40 |
yboston |
#topic Evergreen 2.10 Release Manager Report (Galen Charlton) |
| 14:40 |
yboston |
gmcharlt: do you have anything to report? |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
not much; things have been a bit slow during the hoildays, but I'll be gearing up to do a big set of pushes (see what I did there) starting next week |
| 14:41 |
gmcharlt |
and, that's it unless there are questions for me |
| 14:41 |
yboston |
(saw it) |
| 14:41 |
rfrasur |
nice - it took a minute |
| 14:41 |
yboston |
thanks |
| 14:41 |
yboston |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:42 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt++, thank you |
| 14:42 |
abneiman |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:42 |
graced |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:42 |
yboston |
moving on |
| 14:42 |
tspindler |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:42 |
yboston |
#topic Nominations for new EOB chair, potential vote |
| 14:43 |
tspindler |
I would like to nominate yboston to finish out this year |
| 14:43 |
abneiman |
second yboston |
| 14:43 |
yboston |
hold on a moment |
| 14:43 |
yboston |
I mispoke in an earlier email |
| 14:43 |
yboston |
I am still just the vice chair |
| 14:43 |
yboston |
I think I may need to resign the vice-chairmainship(?) |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
and then be made the chaor |
| 14:44 |
tspindler |
That would make sense |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
*elected chair |
| 14:44 |
rfrasur |
I'd also like to nominate graced for the chair |
| 14:44 |
graced |
yboston: well, there's no rule saying EOB members can't hold two positions |
| 14:44 |
tspindler |
are you interested? |
| 14:44 |
graced |
Not that I think it's a good idea to hold both chair and vice-chair... |
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| 14:44 |
yboston |
I am interested in being chair, though my terms ends in April |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
alternatively I can remain vice-chair and lead the meetings |
| 14:45 |
yboston |
while the new chair gets expereince |
| 14:45 |
graced |
rfasur: thanks! I'm interested |
| 14:45 |
tspindler |
graced, how long is your position |
| 14:45 |
graced |
One more year. |
| 14:45 |
rfrasur |
This chair position, for whomever, would extend to the conference. |
| 14:45 |
rfrasur |
Correct? |
| 14:45 |
csharp |
rfrasur: correct |
| 14:45 |
graced |
Though this would be an election just to fill this term of Chair. |
| 14:45 |
abneiman |
Yes, and then at the conference the new board will elect the coming year's officers |
| 14:46 |
graced |
Yes, so we would vote again at the EG conference meeting for elected positions |
| 14:46 |
csharp |
right |
| 14:46 |
graced |
abneiman: jinx |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
do me have lections every year? (I should knwo this) |
| 14:46 |
csharp |
yep |
| 14:46 |
rfrasur |
We do. |
| 14:46 |
abneiman |
graced: great minds etc :) |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
position elections |
| 14:46 |
csharp |
yes, we do |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
thanks everyone :( |
| 14:47 |
rfrasur |
My reasoning for also nominating graced is knowing that yboston is integrally involved in several aspects of the Evergreen project (and invaluable). |
| 14:47 |
csharp |
so we have yboston nominated with a second, and graced nominated, correct? |
| 14:47 |
graced |
csharp: correct |
| 14:48 |
yboston |
I am a litle confused |
| 14:48 |
yboston |
I am leavign the board in April, just to be 100 % clear |
| 14:49 |
csharp |
yboston: right - you'd be fulfilling the end of bshum's term |
| 14:49 |
graced |
yboston: yes, you were nominated to fill the chair position until April. |
| 14:49 |
yboston |
I am open to becoming hte chair or serve out my term as vice chair, with another chair perspm |
| 14:49 |
graced |
well, unless I get a scond, you're running unopposed. :-D |
| 14:49 |
csharp |
so do we need a second for graced to be a candidate, and is there one? |
| 14:49 |
yboston |
but there was a nomination for graced to be chair |
| 14:49 |
tspindler |
i'll second graced |
| 14:50 |
csharp |
tspindler: so you nominated yboston and seconded graced ? |
| 14:50 |
tspindler |
yes |
| 14:50 |
tspindler |
i like competition |
| 14:50 |
csharp |
tspindler++ |
| 14:50 |
rfrasur |
tspindler++ |
| 14:51 |
csharp |
so, Mr. vice-chair, I think it's your prerogative to call for a vote |
| 14:51 |
yboston |
OK, I am less confused |
| 14:51 |
yboston |
I am curious as to what graced prefers |
| 14:52 |
yboston |
would you rather be vice-chair or chair until april? |
| 14:52 |
yboston |
though of course you would need to be nominated for vice-chair and I need to resign,etc |
| 14:52 |
csharp |
well, we'd need to do the same process for vice-chair (to stick to parliamentary procedure) |
| 14:52 |
yboston |
or I could just shut up and do a vote |
| 14:52 |
graced |
yboston: I would do either role, happily. |
| 14:52 |
csharp |
(if vacated) |
| 14:53 |
graced |
I can see benefits both ways. |
| 14:53 |
yboston |
I also need to figure out how to do a vote, but I can quickly make someoen a co-chair if they already know how to do votes |
| 14:53 |
graced |
yboston: do you feel that you have the time and inclination to serve the chair position for a few months? |
| 14:53 |
csharp |
I think it's just #startvote? |
| 14:53 |
kmlussier |
yboston: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot |
| 14:54 |
graced |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:54 |
yboston |
had there not been a nomination I would have no issues being chair, but since there is such a qualified candiadte |
| 14:54 |
kmlussier |
And the question needs to be in the form of a yes or no question |
| 14:54 |
yboston |
I do prefer being the vice-chair |
| 14:55 |
rfrasur |
yboston, are you removing yourself from consideration? |
| 14:55 |
yboston |
I guess I am |
| 14:55 |
rfrasur |
You don't have to. |
| 14:56 |
yboston |
no, I rather be chair if there is a candate that would welcome being chair |
| 14:56 |
yboston |
sorry, I rather be vice-chair |
| 14:56 |
rfrasur |
Okay :-), so then we'll need a yes or no vote regarding graced as chair and yboston will retain the vice-chair |
| 14:57 |
csharp |
yboston: are you withdrawing your candidacy, or would you like to play it out with a vote? |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
no, I will remove my candidacy |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
leaving two nominations for graced |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
do we still need a vote |
| 14:57 |
rfrasur |
Yep |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
ok |
| 14:58 |
yboston |
#startvote do we vote graced as new chair? yes, no, abstain |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: do we vote graced as new chair? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:58 |
tspindler |
#vote graced |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
tspindler: graced is not a valid option. Valid options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 14:58 |
rfrasur |
#vote yes |
| 14:58 |
csharp |
#vote abstain |
| 14:58 |
SHerbert |
#vote yes |
| 14:58 |
tspindler |
#vote yes |
| 14:58 |
yboston |
#vote yes |
| 14:58 |
graced |
#vote abstain |
| 14:58 |
abneiman |
#vote yes |
| 14:59 |
yboston |
#endvote |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
Voted on "do we vote graced as new chair?" Results are |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
yes (5): rfrasur, tspindler, abneiman, SHerbert, yboston |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
abstain (2): graced, csharp |
| 14:59 |
yboston |
congratulations graced |
| 15:00 |
kmlussier |
yboston: I think you probably should hand over meeting controls to graced now with #chair |
| 15:00 |
graced |
thanks yboston! |
| 15:00 |
kmlussier |
graced++ |
| 15:00 |
rfrasur |
yboston++, thank you for serving as chair for this meeting :-) |
| 15:00 |
yboston |
#chair graced |
| 15:00 |
pinesol_green |
Current chairs: graced yboston |
| 15:00 |
SHerbert |
yboston++ |
| 15:00 |
kmlussier |
yboston++ |
| 15:00 |
abneiman |
graced++ yboston++ |
| 15:00 |
tspindler |
yboston++ |
| 15:01 |
graced |
okay, moving on then |
| 15:01 |
graced |
nothing like picking up mid-meeting (thanks kmlussier) |
| 15:01 |
graced |
;) |
| 15:01 |
yboston |
graced: one lingering item, which you laerted me about is the open position in the board |
| 15:01 |
kmlussier |
graced: Sorry, that's how we roll on my committees. :) |
| 15:01 |
yboston |
also we are at the one hour mark |
| 15:02 |
graced |
Can everyone stay for another 5 mintues? |
| 15:02 |
yboston |
I can |
| 15:02 |
rfrasur |
I can stay |
| 15:02 |
abneiman |
yes |
| 15:02 |
tspindler |
I have someone coming any minute but they aren't here yet. |
| 15:02 |
SHerbert |
yes |
| 15:02 |
graced |
Okay, we had one person nominated for the open seat. |
| 15:02 |
csharp |
I'm ok |
| 15:02 |
graced |
I nominated Amy Terlaga. |
| 15:03 |
graced |
Do we have any other nominations at this time? |
| 15:03 |
rfrasur |
I'd like to second Amy's nomination if a second is needed. |
| 15:03 |
rfrasur |
And if she's willing |
| 15:03 |
csharp |
we have a second for Amy |
| 15:03 |
abneiman |
IIRC tspindler seconded over email, and Amy did indicate that she was willing |
| 15:03 |
graced |
indeed |
| 15:04 |
rfrasur |
he did. I wasn't sure if the email counted. That was the "is needed." |
| 15:04 |
graced |
As I read the governance rules, this would be to serve out the rest of Ben's term, so until spring on 2017 |
| 15:04 |
tspindler |
my 3pm meeting is here so I will have to bow out |
| 15:04 |
graced |
*of 2017 |
| 15:04 |
rfrasur |
tspindler++, have a good afternoon |
| 15:05 |
graced |
well, we still have a quorum, so let's plow through if we can real quick. |
| 15:05 |
graced |
Any other nominations? |
| 15:05 |
graced |
Any questions or concerns about the nominee or the process? |
| 15:06 |
yboston |
none from me |
| 15:06 |
graced |
Okay then, let me see if I can figure this vote thing out. |
| 15:07 |
graced |
#startvote Appoint Amy Terlaga to the open EOB slot left by Ben Shum's departure? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 15:07 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: Appoint Amy Terlaga to the open EOB slot left by Ben Shum's departure? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 15:07 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 15:07 |
rfrasur |
#vote yes |
| 15:07 |
SHerbert |
#vote yes |
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abneiman |
#vote yes |
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yboston |
#vote yes |
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csharp |
#vote yes |
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graced |
#vote yes |
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graced |
#endvote |
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pinesol_green |
Voted on "Appoint Amy Terlaga to the open EOB slot left by Ben Shum's departure?" Results are |
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pinesol_green |
Yes (6): rfrasur, yboston, graced, csharp, SHerbert, abneiman |
| 15:09 |
graced |
#info Amy Terlaga was appointed to the EOB to serve out Ben Shum's term |
| 15:09 |
rfrasur |
Welcome to Amy! |
| 15:09 |
graced |
#action graced to send Amy a welcome note |
| 15:10 |
graced |
Okay, thanks for sticking with us, any other new business? |
| 15:10 |
yboston |
not form me |
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abneiman |
none here |
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SHerbert |
none |
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yboston |
though, we might want to start talking soon about the next elections. can be done by email |
| 15:11 |
rfrasur |
yboston++ |
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graced |
yboston++ |
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graced |
Great meeting today, everyone! Have a wonderful day! |
| 15:11 |
abneiman |
yboston++ most definitely |
| 15:11 |
graced |
#endmeeting |
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SHerbert |
graced++ |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 15:11:25 2016 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-01-21-14.00.html |
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pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-01-21-14.00.txt |
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pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-01-21-14.00.log.html |
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graced |
Whew |
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rfrasur |
graced++, thanks all |
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abneiman |
graced++ |
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yboston |
graced: woudl you kike me to update the wiki with links to the meetign minutes? that is what I did with ben |
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kmlussier |
yboston: Do you have a few minutes to stick around to talk about git day? |
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graced |
yboston: please? thank you! |
| 15:12 |
yboston |
no, I am ate to a meeting, then I leave early from work. can talk tomorrow or tonight |
| 15:12 |
kmlussier |
yboston: Ok, I just need to know what we need to do to get you there. |
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gmcharlt |
graced++ |
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Stompro |
Is there a way to go from a list of 20k bib ID's to a record bucket from the client right now? |
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phasefx |
Stompro: no, but you could use a list of item barcodes as a bib surrogate and populate a record bucket that way |
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phasefx |
doing 20k would be painful though |
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phasefx |
that'd also be a bucket you'd never want to pull up in the xul client |
| 15:22 |
kmlussier |
Yikes. Yeah, record buckets can only handle so many records. |
| 15:23 |
phasefx |
might be better in the web client with paging |
| 15:23 |
Stompro |
phasefx, thanks, I wasn't finding anything but wanted to double check. I need to change the item_type on 20K large print titles and I'm just trying to find the best way. I was going to try and use the marc batch edit function. |
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kmlussier |
phasefx: You said xul client. Is there hope there will be improvement in this respect in the web client? My webby testing has been limited to buckets with 50 records. |
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Dyrcona |
And, that is why I write so many custom scripts. |
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miker |
if you just use them for container searches, never accessed as a list, that could be useful |
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phasefx |
kmlussier: I think there's always hope. Not sure what the current performance is with webby |
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berick |
kmlussier: webby will be much better. buckets are magically paged |
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berick |
as with most grids. sorting and limiting are server-side and the client only retrieves one page at a time |
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phasefx |
berick++ |
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berick |
a 20k bucket in webby should perform the same as a 20 record bucket, minus the slightly longer sql query to generate the first page |
| 15:25 |
miker |
Stompro: batch marc edit can't deal with fixed fields... |
| 15:27 |
Stompro |
miker, thanks, saved me some time figuring that out the hard way. |
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phasefx |
there's a wishlist item for populating buckets via reports; would love to see that |
| 15:27 |
miker |
:) ... and also :( for the lack of that |
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kmlussier |
phasefx: Yeah. That was also one of our unfunded RFP items from way back in our grant days. Still would love to see that happen. |
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* tsbere |
has had two thoughts on the populate a bucket from a report bit, one for "when the report is run" and the other "from the report output" |
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kmlussier |
Hey afterl! Congrats on your recent EOB election! |
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kmlussier |
afterl++ |
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abneiman |
afterl++ for being willing and for letting us vote you in in absentia :) |
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afterl |
kmlussier and abneiman: thank you! |
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afterl |
and my apologies for not being present at the EOB meeting today |
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jwoodard |
The Evergreen ILS, Lean mean staff client machine, Smashing dreams to dust. |
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kmlussier |
jwoodard: I think you may have been drinking a little too much Kool-Aid lately. ;) |
| 18:04 |
kmlussier |
To be clear, I fully support drinking the Evergreen Kool-Aid |
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jwoodard |
kmlussier++ |
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jwoodard |
I have been messing around with Evergreen all this week learning a new function |
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jwoodard |
I have had Evergreen Kool-aid for breakfast, lunch and dinner |
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jwoodard |
but now I know abut authority control and marc batch editing |
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jwoodard |
@hate cataloguing |
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pinesol_green |
jwoodard: The operation succeeded. jwoodard hates cataloguing. |
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jwoodard |
@hate Authority Control |
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pinesol_green |
jwoodard: The operation succeeded. jwoodard hates Authority Control. |
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