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| 07:35 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
| 07:35 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of La Esmeralda Panama, and sends it sliding down the bar to dbwells_ |
| 07:35 |
kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
| 07:35 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Wild Snow Sprout Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to dcook (http://ratetea.com/tea/wild-tea-qi/wild-snow-sprout-tea/6447/) |
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| 09:14 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl: thanks - we're working with ESI at the moment to see if they can find what the root cause is |
| 09:15 |
jboyer-isl |
That's probably a better plan at this point. Good luck! |
| 09:15 |
csharp |
thanks |
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| 09:34 |
jeff |
something tells me these holds with a shelf time in 2014 and 2015 aren't actually on a hold shelf anymore. |
| 09:38 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: Probably not. |
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tsbere |
jeff: We have at least one with a shelf time back in 2012. <_< |
| 09:47 |
* tsbere |
checks some more shelf times and finds 10 in 2012, 7 in 2013, 12 in 2014, and it looks like around 100 in 2015 |
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| 10:00 |
* miker |
turns a 170s statement into a .08s statement, clamps cigar in grin, "I love it when a plan comes together" |
| 10:00 |
jeff |
miker++ |
| 10:01 |
Dyrcona |
miker++ |
| 10:01 |
csharp |
miker++ |
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| 10:30 |
jboyer-isl |
miker: I half expected a rant about Spider-Man toward the end of that. |
| 10:34 |
miker |
jboyer-isl: :) ... I was going for Hannibal from the A-Team, but I'd admit Jameson sometimes |
| 10:34 |
krvmga |
miker: fwiw, i got the Hannibal reference :) |
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| 10:37 |
Dyrcona |
Signing out. Library wi-fi isn't that reliable in the meeting room. |
| 10:37 |
jeff |
https://youtu.be/FPQlXNH36mI |
| 10:42 |
krvmga |
Jeff: :) |
| 10:42 |
krvmga |
as it happens, my wife and i were watching the first episode of the old Battlestar Galactica on netflix last night. |
| 10:42 |
krvmga |
she says to me, "isn't that the guy from the a-team?" |
| 10:43 |
krvmga |
(after making an obligatory Ben Cartwright joke) |
| 10:47 |
berick |
heh, "git slog" |
| 10:50 |
jeff |
krvmga: you may be confusing Lorne Greene (Bonanza, Battlestar Galactica) with George Peppard (The A-Team) |
| 10:52 |
krvmga |
jeff: nah, she was talking about dirk benedict (faceman on the a-team) |
| 10:52 |
krvmga |
but when she saw lorne greene, she had to make a bonanza crack |
| 10:52 |
* mmorgan |
is now being haunted by the A-Team theme song |
| 10:52 |
krvmga |
mmorgan: lol |
| 10:53 |
jeff |
krvmga: aha! |
| 10:53 |
berick |
i pity the fool haunted by the a-team theme song |
| 10:54 |
krvmga |
benedict played starbuck in the original BG |
| 10:54 |
krvmga |
the role later played by a woman |
| 10:54 |
krvmga |
and it occurs to me i know way too much about this stuff |
| 10:55 |
krvmga |
and i have a picture of dwight schultz hugging me and kathleen |
| 10:55 |
krvmga |
yes, way too much |
| 10:56 |
krvmga |
berick++ |
| 10:56 |
csharp |
krvmga: I broke down and purchased the "reimagined" BSG DVD set with some Christmas money - we're re-watching them now :-) |
| 10:57 |
* kmlussier |
can't remember the A-Team theme song and wants to keep it that way |
| 10:57 |
* csharp |
had the A-team theme song as his cell ringtone for a while |
| 10:57 |
krvmga |
csharp++ |
| 10:57 |
csharp |
before switching back to LOTR |
| 10:57 |
krvmga |
LOTR++ |
| 10:58 |
csharp |
<-- nerd |
| 10:58 |
krvmga |
oops, gotta run to a meeting. back l8r |
| 10:58 |
csharp |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8 |
| 11:01 |
* mmorgan |
should not work on action triggers after an a-team discussion. "I pity the fool that has overdue library books ..." |
| 11:04 |
csharp |
mmorgan++ |
| 11:09 |
dbs |
To get action triggers to work, you just need to slip a little something into its milk |
| 11:09 |
jeff |
INSERT INTO config.usr_setting_type (name, opac_visible, label, datatype) VALUES ('notify.optin.mistert', true, 'Opt in to Mister T themed notifications.', 'bool'); |
| 11:09 |
jeff |
maybe that datatype should be 'fool' |
| 11:12 |
dbs |
jeff++ |
| 11:13 |
berick |
heh |
| 11:15 |
* miker |
suggests en_mrt as i18n_locale value ... |
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| 11:24 |
jeff |
i am looking at a web page containing the text "HIPAA-Friendly Communication" and a recommendation to "right click the Google Chrome icon; in the box named Target, add 2 spaces to the end of the command after chrome.exe then type: --allow-running-insecure-content" |
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dbs |
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| 12:55 |
yboston |
heads up, the DIG monthly meeting will be starting at 2 PM EST |
| 12:56 |
yboston |
never mind, I am an hour early :( |
| 12:56 |
yboston |
I'll be back |
| 12:58 |
kmlussier |
yboston: I'm going to need to skip today's meeting. Sorry! |
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| 13:37 |
jwoodard |
record buckets never seem to work for me |
| 13:41 |
jwoodard |
it worked earlier, now it is fighting back |
| 13:47 |
mmorgan |
jwoodard: How are your buckets not cooperating? |
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| 13:53 |
jwoodard |
mmorgan: when I am making MARC changes in a batch it just gives me an infinite processing screen. |
| 13:53 |
jwoodard |
I set up the rules and hit go but it just loads forever |
| 13:54 |
jwoodard |
I have tried it with several records in a batch and with one and the result is the same |
| 13:55 |
yboston |
take 2: the DIG monthly meeting will be starting at 2 PM EST |
| 13:57 |
mmorgan |
Hmm. Don't have that much experience with the marc batch update, but I've heard it can take a long time. |
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jwoodard |
Im going to let it run a little longer just to be sure before I stop it |
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| 14:00 |
yboston |
#startmeeting DIG Monthly Meeting Evergreen Documentation Interest Group (DIG) Monthly Meeting. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Wed Jan 20 14:00:15 2016 US/Eastern. The chair is yboston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'dig_monthly_meeting_evergreen_documentation_interest_group__dig__monthly_meeting_' |
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| 14:00 |
yboston |
The agenda can be found here http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20160120-agenda |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#topic Introductions |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
Please feel free to start introducing yourselves... |
| 14:00 |
krvmga |
#info krvmga = Jim Keenan, C/W MARS |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#info yboston is Yamil Suarez @ Berklee College of Music - DIG meeting facilitator |
| 14:01 |
sandbergja_ |
#info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College |
| 14:02 |
yboston |
I will wait another meeting before starting |
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| 14:03 |
yboston |
OK |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
we have a small crew today |
| 14:04 |
krvmga |
small crew, big hearts :) |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
any one here planning to participate on the web client docs on Friday? |
| 14:04 |
sandbergja_ |
krvmga++ |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
krvmga++ |
| 14:04 |
krvmga |
i will not be able to :( |
| 14:05 |
sandbergja_ |
I was planning on participating to some extent, but it's a somewhat busy week |
| 14:05 |
yboston |
thanks, just curioius |
| 14:05 |
yboston |
*curious |
| 14:06 |
yboston |
I'll send an email on Friday morning with some info, like the wiki page for web docs |
| 14:06 |
yboston |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:webclient |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
I'll go through the old action items to retire a few, and we can then discuss other topics |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
#topic previous action items |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
soem of them I will just postpone if the person is not here |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
#action jihpringle will research the state of missing RDA content |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
#action Codey Kolasinski of C/W MARS has volunteered to work with kmlussier on the MARC stream importer docs |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
#action yboston will move the undocumented content of the 2.8 new feature “TPAC Discoverability Enhancements” to its own section in the docs |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
(my bad) |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
#action kmlussier will document the general workflow for being DIG release coordinator |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
#action alynn26 will write to the DIG list to start discussion on DIG priorities before the next release in March |
| 14:09 |
yboston |
#action kmlussier will update the wiki page for web client docs |
| 14:09 |
yboston |
#action yboston will add agenda item fro discussing docs re-org tied to web cleint docs |
| 14:09 |
yboston |
(my bad) |
| 14:09 |
kmlussier |
yboston: Yikes! I'll take care of that last action item by tomorrow morning at the latest. |
| 14:10 |
yboston |
I skipped a couple past action items that I know were compelted |
| 14:10 |
* kmlussier |
returns to being busy doing other things |
| 14:10 |
yboston |
kmlussier: thanks |
| 14:10 |
yboston |
BTW< thanks to sandbergja for starting the ball rolling again (with others) on docs re-organization |
| 14:11 |
yboston |
any comments or questions so far? |
| 14:11 |
sandbergja_ |
Thanks! |
| 14:11 |
yboston |
on any of the action items above or another topic? |
| 14:11 |
sandbergja_ |
I was interested in talking about reorg, but it can happen later in the meeting |
| 14:12 |
krvmga |
me, too |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
we can swithc to that in a second. I had a goal to talk a bit about the web client hacking and we already spoke a little abotu it |
| 14:13 |
sandbergja_ |
sounds good to me |
| 14:13 |
yboston |
liek I said I will send out a link in the morning. I will also start a Google hangout in the morning |
| 14:13 |
yboston |
the wiki page will have login info for a test serve that can be used to document the web client |
| 14:14 |
yboston |
#link https://webby.evergreencatalog.com/eg/staff/ |
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| 14:14 |
yboston |
I think that is about it. We might want to check in the morning to verify what everyone will work on |
| 14:15 |
yboston |
at this point we can switch to talking about the re-org |
| 14:16 |
yboston |
#topic docs re-org |
| 14:16 |
yboston |
go ahead |
| 14:16 |
sandbergja_ |
I think that there was a lot of excitement when we talked about it on the mailing list |
| 14:17 |
krvmga |
when i originally talked about this idea, i was thinking of "books" for different staff |
| 14:17 |
yboston |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:reorg_2014 |
| 14:17 |
krvmga |
evergreen circ |
| 14:17 |
krvmga |
evergreen cataloging |
| 14:17 |
krvmga |
evergreen acquisitions |
| 14:17 |
sandbergja_ |
The tricky thing is to convert that excitement into some actual commitment to assist with the (huge) project |
| 14:17 |
krvmga |
etc |
| 14:17 |
dluch |
#info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS (who had connection probs, sorry) |
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| 14:17 |
yboston |
(hello!) |
| 14:18 |
sandbergja_ |
krvmga: that's what I had in mind as well |
| 14:18 |
krvmga |
great! |
| 14:18 |
yboston |
dluch: here is a link to the IRC log starting at 2 PM EST so you can see what you missed (not much) |
| 14:18 |
yboston |
http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2016-01-20#i_223787 |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
I am really excited about the re-org project! |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
Thanks, yboston! |
| 14:19 |
sandbergja_ |
dluch: So great to hear that! |
| 14:19 |
yboston |
sandbergja: I agree |
| 14:19 |
sandbergja_ |
What I'd like to take away from this DIG meeting: a rough idea of when we should meet to talk in-depth about the re-org process |
| 14:19 |
sandbergja_ |
I can then send out a Doodle poll and identify a time to start planning this out in earnest |
| 14:20 |
krvmga |
sandbergja: do you have a specific interest? |
| 14:20 |
sandbergja_ |
2) I'd also just like some general feedback on how to get more people involved in this project, and what directions we all think this project should go |
| 14:20 |
yboston |
sandbergja_: these are all great questions |
| 14:21 |
dluch |
Doodle poll sounds good. |
| 14:21 |
sandbergja_ |
Re: time, do you think early February would be a good time? Should we wait a little while? |
| 14:21 |
krvmga |
maybe, if there are people with specific interests, they can be the initial compilers of the area documentation. |
| 14:22 |
sandbergja_ |
krvmga: So perhaps at this next meeting, we can identify some participants who would be interested in compiling the cataloging section, the local sysadmin section, etc.? |
| 14:22 |
krvmga |
sounds good |
| 14:22 |
yboston |
early February may work, the only concern is that since we are just having a web client hack fest that soem folks may want soem more downtime |
| 14:22 |
sandbergja_ |
cool! |
| 14:23 |
sandbergja_ |
yboston: good point. |
| 14:23 |
yboston |
we can still see the amount of energy available by the poll participation |
| 14:23 |
sandbergja_ |
that's true |
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sandbergja_ |
looking at the Evergreen calendar, it looks like 2.10 Beta release is coming out at the end of February; do you think that'd impact people's availability? |
| 14:24 |
yboston |
sadly, all of the concerns you have apply to any DIG endeavor |
| 14:24 |
sandbergja_ |
:-( |
| 14:25 |
yboston |
sandbergja_: yes, it will impact us :( |
| 14:25 |
yboston |
it also impacts ANY open source project |
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| 14:25 |
sandbergja_ |
well, why don't I send out a doodle poll consisting of times during weeks 2 and 3 of February |
| 14:26 |
yboston |
then again, helpng with a re-org might come so naturaly to new folks that it could become a gateway to having more vlounteers in general |
| 14:26 |
dluch |
Weeks 2 and 3 are perfect timing for me at least. ;-) |
| 14:26 |
sandbergja_ |
yboston: true! That'd be awesome! |
| 14:26 |
yboston |
one concern I have is that it is already very hard to keep up with docuemnting new features, woudl ahte that the re-org slows us down |
| 14:26 |
yboston |
but it might be OK |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
I would prefer that we treat this re-org like a formal projects, at least as much as we can |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
by laying out the key requirments and risks |
| 14:28 |
yboston |
as well as breaking down some tasks so that new volunteers can easily contribute |
| 14:28 |
sandbergja_ |
That makes sense |
| 14:28 |
sandbergja_ |
I could draft a document with requirements, risks, and tasks on the wiki |
| 14:29 |
yboston |
BTW< it is such a paradox the effor it takes to collect bite size documentation bugs and create easy to follow insrtuctions |
| 14:29 |
dluch |
That would be great |
| 14:29 |
sandbergja_ |
And our first meeting could involve looking through that and some concrete planning based on that discussion |
| 14:29 |
yboston |
sandbergja_: make sense to me |
| 14:30 |
Christineb |
#info Christineb is Christine Burns from BC LIbraries Cooperative |
| 14:30 |
Christineb |
late for meeting |
| 14:30 |
Christineb |
yboston - I plan on participating in web client doc hackaway on Friday |
| 14:30 |
yboston |
Christineb: I was about to send you a link to the IRC log, but I think you may have seen it already |
| 14:31 |
yboston |
here it is anyway, so you can see what we have said so far |
| 14:31 |
yboston |
http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2016-01-20#i_223787 |
| 14:31 |
Christineb |
yes thank you, just catching up now |
| 14:31 |
Christineb |
awesome thank you |
| 14:31 |
yboston |
Christineb: excellent |
| 14:31 |
Christineb |
Jennifer Pringle is also planning to participate in the hackaway on Friday |
| 14:32 |
yboston |
Christineb: double excellent |
| 14:32 |
dluch |
sandbergja_: that sounds great |
| 14:32 |
yboston |
on the topic of the re-org, just had a crazy idea, but maybe somebody else had it already |
| 14:32 |
yboston |
should we try to document the web client using the proposed new re-org |
| 14:33 |
yboston |
instead of addign it in the special section of the preview? it might make things worse, but having soem new content to play with might be helpful to try out the new re-org |
| 14:33 |
krvmga |
interesting idea |
| 14:34 |
sandbergja_ |
I'm all for having a place to try out the new re-org and making sure it works for people |
| 14:34 |
jihpringle |
yboston++ |
| 14:34 |
sandbergja_ |
yes, yboston++ |
| 14:34 |
dluch |
yes! yboston++ |
| 14:35 |
sandbergja_ |
how hard would that be to achieve technically? |
| 14:35 |
yboston |
#idea use the new re-org layout for storing the new web client docs |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
my rough understanding is... |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
that Robert Soulliere would need to do some config set ups on his docs server |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
to handle a new set of templates for the new re-org |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
though we might want to have a final decision on the re-org style before we start this, though we can just do soemtests |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
*some tests |
| 14:38 |
yboston |
in some ways it might not be that differnt from when Robert set ups the docs foreach new version of EG |
| 14:39 |
yboston |
lets talk about sandbergja_ list of concers, which are very important |
| 14:39 |
yboston |
1) when to meet next 2) how to get more people involved |
| 14:40 |
yboston |
I added 3) what risks shoudl we address, I would also add 4) do we have a final re-org that we can follow |
| 14:40 |
sandbergja_ |
I feel like we got some consensus around (1) |
| 14:40 |
yboston |
any other cocnenrs or ideas that we should keep in mind, that perhaps sandbergja_ and I can add to the re-org page in preparation for the eventual re-org meeting? |
| 14:41 |
krvmga |
i have no others atm |
| 14:41 |
yboston |
hold on, let me see again the dev caelndar to see when DIG shoudl be working on docuemntating new features |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
I believe that DIG could startw orkign on new features as early as Friday February 19th. That is the day of "feature freeze" |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
I think I prefer that we meet before that, but skip th enext couple of weeks to give DIG time |
| 14:45 |
sandbergja_ |
sounds good to me |
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| 14:46 |
yboston |
sandbergja_: go ahead and set up a poll for the next meeting |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
concerning re-org |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
can I add an action item for you? |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
(sa) |
| 14:46 |
sandbergja_ |
please do! Thanks! |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
(sandbergja_ ) |
| 14:47 |
yboston |
#action sandbergja_ will create a doodle poll to pick a time in february to discuss docs re-org on both the DIG and general list |
| 14:47 |
yboston |
sandbergja_: learn from y mistakes, make sure to mention a deadline for closing the poll. I often forget to mention that |
| 14:47 |
sandbergja_ |
thanks for the advice! I'll do that! |
| 14:48 |
yboston |
can I assing to you and or somebody else to list some requirements on the re-org wiki page? |
| 14:48 |
sandbergja_ |
Feel free to give me that action item; I'm also happy to collaborate with somebody else |
| 14:49 |
yboston |
#action sandbergja_ will update the reorg wiki page with a list of project requirements & goals |
| 14:50 |
yboston |
any other comments or questions on this topic? |
| 14:50 |
krvmga |
none from me atm |
| 14:50 |
dluch |
nope |
| 14:50 |
sandbergja |
nope! |
| 14:50 |
sandbergja |
thanks for facilitating this, yboston |
| 14:51 |
yboston |
I need a moment to link to your email thread to this meeting |
| 14:52 |
yboston |
#link http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/2016-January/012602.html --- [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Early stages: re-organizing the official documentation |
| 14:53 |
yboston |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:reorg_2014:audience_focused_layout -- Draft of Audience-Focused Layout |
| 14:53 |
yboston |
I wanted to get some early feedback on that draft layout fromt hsi crowd |
| 14:53 |
yboston |
*this |
| 14:54 |
yboston |
I see a book geared to cataloging, circulation, acquisitions |
| 14:54 |
yboston |
are there books that we may be missing? I ask becuase I am cocnerned that we might end up with a lot of books, but maybe that is still the way to go |
| 14:55 |
yboston |
or some books that are seprate now we might want to combine in the future? |
| 14:55 |
jihpringle |
I think we need one on local system admin as well (closed dates editor, ect.) |
| 14:55 |
krvmga |
i'm sure there are missing ones but i wouldn't worry about that just yet |
| 14:55 |
sandbergja |
I agree with krvmga |
| 14:55 |
sandbergja |
and jihpringle |
| 14:55 |
sandbergja |
:-) |
| 14:56 |
sandbergja |
And we will also have to figure out if we want a book for just a regular patron! |
| 14:56 |
dluch |
Yeah, I'm with jihpringle on that, with local admin stuff |
| 14:56 |
yboston |
I don't want to spend a lot of energy about the futurer, but I want at some point to spend time on considering the groth of the docs just so we are not blinsided by anything |
| 14:56 |
sandbergja |
But maybe that discussion should happen at the next re-org meeting, after we have established the requirements for the project |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
I just wanted to get a little feedback :) |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
OK, we are almost at the hour mark |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
any final comments or questions? |
| 14:59 |
yboston |
OK, I will wrap up. Thank you everyone for participating |
| 14:59 |
Christineb |
thank you |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
Thank you! |
| 14:59 |
yboston |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Wed Jan 20 14:59:44 2016 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-01-20-14.00.html |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-01-20-14.00.txt |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-01-20-14.00.log.html |
| 15:00 |
sandbergja |
Thanks, yboston! |
| 15:01 |
krvmga |
yboston++ |
| 15:01 |
krvmga |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:01 |
krvmga |
dluch++ |
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krvmga |
Christineb++ |
| 15:02 |
krvmga |
jihpringle++ |
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jboyer-isl |
csharp: can I take it from miker's earlier A-Team reference that things are looking up? |
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| 16:30 |
Dyrcona |
Whee! Parameters are fun! |
| 17:03 |
dcook |
@last --with dcook |
| 17:03 |
pinesol_green |
dcook: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. |
| 17:03 |
dcook |
Dang |
| 17:03 |
dcook |
Someone said my name at some point :p |
| 17:04 |
berick |
@last --with berick |
| 17:04 |
pinesol_green |
berick: [10:56:27] <krvmga> berick++ |
| 17:04 |
berick |
useful |
| 17:04 |
dcook |
Ikr? |
| 17:04 |
dcook |
Mine was just a random one |
| 17:04 |
dcook |
Thanks to this: |
| 17:04 |
dcook |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Masala Chai, and sends it sliding down the bar to dbwells (http://ratetea.com/tea/rishi/masala-chai/4495/) |
| 17:04 |
dbwells |
second drink today, must be my lucky day :) |
| 17:05 |
berick |
@who summoned dcook |
| 17:05 |
pinesol_green |
Bmagic summoned dcook. |
| 17:06 |
dcook |
O_o |
| 17:07 |
kmlussier |
dcook: It was me. |
| 17:07 |
dcook |
kmlussier: Yeah, I saw that ;) |
| 17:07 |
dcook |
I clearly don't hang out in here enough |
| 17:07 |
kmlussier |
I like sending coffee and tea to random people before I bury myself in work for the day. |
| 17:09 |
kmlussier |
Speaking of being buried, it's 5 p.m. my time, and I don't think I've gotten very far in digging myself out. |
| 17:12 |
dcook |
:( |
| 17:12 |
dcook |
I know that feeling |
| 17:13 |
* Dyrcona |
is at the office until around 7:00 pm tonight. |
| 17:13 |
dcook |
:( |
| 17:13 |
dcook |
Why's that, Dyrcona? |
| 17:14 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: That's unusual. |
| 17:14 |
* Dyrcona |
doesn't have a car today, so I wait for my wife and daughter to pick me up after the daughter's dance class. |
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| 17:14 |
dcook |
Ahh |
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Dyrcona |
Hmm. I thought the lights upstairs were supposed to go off automatically at 6:00 pm. |
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| 19:35 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl: yes! things are far better |
| 19:37 |
csharp |
turns out upping the join_collapse_limit to 12 fixed the bottleneck |
| 19:37 |
csharp |
miker++ |
| 19:38 |
csharp |
there were a couple of other tweaks too (such as a duplicate index on action.hold_request that needed dropping), but that setting appears to have been the magic one |
| 20:24 |
miker |
csharp: the rows setting on actor.o_u_descendants was needed along with that, fwiw, to get proper estimates, even with the join collapse limit... plans were guessing wrong by 6 orders of magnitude in some cases! :) |
| 20:25 |
miker |
(yep, off by 1,000,000 x in some places!) |
| 20:26 |
miker |
anyway, just goes to show that every dataset is special in its own way ;) |
| 20:34 |
csharp |
miker: oh right - I was working from my faulty memory |
| 20:34 |
csharp |
miker++ |
| 20:36 |
miker |
np! just didn't want to leave a dangling solution in the logs for someone to trip on |
| 20:36 |
csharp |
right :-) |
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