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| 00:15 |
kmlussier |
bshum: It was in the email I sent last week. Ron will be picking people up around 9 a.m. Expected start time is 9:30. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org |
| 09:41 |
jeff |
the hack-a-way is going through a tunnel. |
| 09:41 |
jeff |
underwater. |
| 09:41 |
gmcharlt |
here's a Google doc for communal notes-taking: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wbIiU47kSElcg0hG2o-ZJ9hNmyM8v7rOWyi8jGvA38/edit?usp=sharing |
| 09:41 |
jeff |
and there is a recurring short in the electrical. |
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phasefx |
lol jeff, floating mug |
| 10:03 |
jeff |
I'm interested in all kinds of astronomy. |
| 10:04 |
jeff |
phasefx: glad you enjoyed it. :-) |
| 10:06 |
bshum |
jeff++ # I love that movie :) |
| 10:08 |
jeff |
"HANGOUTS! Activity Monitor reports that 124% on the CPU is possible, but NOT recommended!" |
| 10:09 |
jeff |
<HANGOUTS> Go to 124% on the CPU. |
| 10:09 |
bshum |
jeff: Good movie too :) |
| 10:09 |
bshum |
"We're going to kill a friend." |
| 10:10 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere: We're still not getting the correct circulation rules for Comcat items. |
| 10:10 |
Dyrcona |
It's supposed to be 28 days and 0 renewals, but we're getting 21 days and 2 renewals. |
| 10:10 |
tsbere |
Dyrcona: Fun. For "pull your hair out" definitions of "Fun". |
| 10:10 |
jeff |
I suspect that improving remote participation options is not worth spending time on, and ensuring greater in-person participation is the better answer. |
| 10:11 |
Dyrcona |
I could just hop in the car and be there in 30 to 40 minutes. |
| 10:11 |
* phasefx |
wants an ipad on wheels damn it |
| 10:13 |
jeff |
dbs: is your "keep an external solr instance up to date" code currently in use? is that external index still in existence, and was it ever more than an experiment? |
| 10:13 |
* jeff |
is trying to survey the landscape, as it were |
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| 10:16 |
jeff |
phasefx: you appear to have killed the audio by muting Rogan's client. |
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| 10:17 |
phasefx |
jeff: yeah, I regret that, assumed it was just be for me |
| 10:17 |
phasefx |
it won't let me unmute |
| 10:17 |
jeff |
cute. |
| 10:17 |
Bmagic |
yeah, it's silent |
| 10:17 |
jeff |
who originally started the hangout? |
| 10:17 |
miker |
RoganH: it went quiet on your user (you are the sound) ;) |
| 10:18 |
bshum |
Or maybe we're just really quiet over here |
| 10:18 |
RoganH |
let's see... |
| 10:18 |
Bmagic |
there we go |
| 10:18 |
phasefx |
yay |
| 10:18 |
RoganH |
everyone is whispering over their keyboards |
| 10:18 |
jeff |
okay, we have audio from another client now, apparently. |
| 10:18 |
jeff |
looks like Elizabeth's client is now providing audio. |
| 10:18 |
miker |
aye |
| 10:19 |
* phasefx |
will keep his chaos fingers away from the controls |
| 10:19 |
jeff |
i suspect that anyone in the hangout can mute someone, but only that person can unmute themselves. |
| 10:19 |
RoganH |
That's probably the case. |
| 10:20 |
phasefx |
we should probably mute Elizabeth now that ROgan is unmuted |
| 10:20 |
jeff |
Redundant Array of Independent Microphones |
| 10:20 |
miker |
jeff: did you see https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3389 ? ... boo to the ES community |
| 10:21 |
jeff |
Google Hangouts: PRESENTED IN [ [ WIDE SCREEN STEREO ]] |
| 10:21 |
phasefx |
ream, redundant echo array of... |
| 10:21 |
mmorgan |
Better? |
| 10:21 |
Bmagic |
it's quiet now |
| 10:21 |
jeff |
miker: yeah, saw that. mildly annoying, though I've never installed Elasticsearch from packages to begin with. |
| 10:22 |
phasefx |
hrmm, it might have been better with multiple microphones.. there was only a touch of echo at the beginning |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
So, the bug that I thought I saw was a bug in my matchpoints. |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere++ for seeing ti. |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
it. |
| 10:26 |
jeff |
in terms of edit_date on bre, acn, and acp, an Evergreen system is rarely quiescent during the day. This should come as no surprise, but it was amusing to see my incremental index job Just Keep Going as it tried to fetch a page of records at a time until it got 0 rows. |
| 10:28 |
remingtron |
yboston: I added notes to Docs 2.9 needs page about how to accomplish remaining tasks |
| 10:28 |
remingtron |
in case hackaway folks want to work on any |
| 10:28 |
remingtron |
wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.9_needs |
| 10:29 |
gmcharlt |
tsbere++ # creating Hatch repos |
| 10:30 |
RoganH |
http://example.org/gateway?service=open-ils.actor&method=opensrf.open-ils.system.ils_version |
| 10:31 |
RoganH |
that's for Yamil |
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| 10:31 |
jeff |
off to the bank. |
| 10:32 |
jeff |
we shall see if my laptop's exhaust fan spins down before i return. |
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Bmagic |
hackaway video feed is down |
| 10:41 |
Bmagic |
its back |
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* tsbere |
ditches the wireless in favor of a wire for the moment |
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tsbere |
Dunno if my laptop was just saying "I can't see internet on that wireless" or if it was actually unable to see the wireless. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1510641 Release notes (PO actions selector) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b26ee40> |
| 10:46 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1510641 Always show actions selector in PO view - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a261d68> |
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| 10:48 |
dbs |
@later tell jeff solr.bib_updates is still getting updated (2015-11-04 is the latest in the "touched" column), but we haven't used it since Windsor split |
| 10:48 |
pinesol_green |
dbs: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:59 |
jeff |
dbs++ thanks |
| 11:03 |
bshum |
Of course, the wireless has been spotty, so we've been dropping on and off |
| 11:03 |
bshum |
If you guys have anything for us in the room, just feel free to toss something here too. |
| 11:03 |
Dyrcona |
RoganH: You don't need a class to be a programmer. |
| 11:03 |
RoganH |
Dyrcona: agreed |
| 11:05 |
RoganH |
Dyrcona: among good programmers I've known more were probably more self taught than anything else |
| 11:05 |
jeff |
sounds like someone's trying to download Java in an automated fashion! :-) |
| 11:05 |
Dyrcona |
Jave WebStart? |
| 11:09 |
RoganH |
I don't know but I heard something that sounded like 'I think we're skirting the spirit of Java here.' |
| 11:09 |
jeff |
The Spirit of Java -- is that the name of a plane, or a train? |
| 11:10 |
tsbere |
I believe it was more "Java upgrades tend to break things skirting the spirit of Java" as part of a "how to get a runtime for Hatch" discussion |
| 11:11 |
Dyrcona |
I don't have that problem with Java, but I don't use Windows or much Java, either. |
| 11:12 |
jeff |
I'm still mostly interested in in a more centralized Hatch handing off to receipt printers that are in some/many cases networked. |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1504615: add release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d26df88> |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Pearl] LP#1504615: include part names when sorting copies for public catalog display - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ef69735> |
| 11:16 |
kmlussier |
artunit e-mailed me a document regarding solr that I should add to the wiki. |
| 11:17 |
Dyrcona |
copy_owning_lib in config.circ_matrix_matchpoint and item_owning_ou in config.hold_matrix_matchpoint..... |
| 11:18 |
jeff |
waiting for ansible playbooks to provision cloud computing resources is the new "my code is compiling" |
| 11:18 |
tsbere |
jeff: That is some of the discussion (networked receipt printers and a centralized hatch) but I dunno how to accomplish that right now. |
| 11:19 |
ldw |
kmlussier: are you going over the search discussion now? |
| 11:22 |
jeff |
i think she was just reacting to some inquiries i had in prep for more discussion tomorrow. |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
The hangout is apparently full. |
| 11:23 |
* jeff |
drops his phone from the Hangout |
| 11:24 |
jeff |
the audio is JUST enough for me to realize that i'm missing out on some great conversations. |
| 11:24 |
jeff |
at least, they sound like they have the potential to be great conversations. |
| 11:25 |
kmlussier |
ldw: No, we're talking about course reserves |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
hah! |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
I like the timing of that. |
| 11:26 |
* Dyrcona |
cleans up more circ and hold rules. |
| 11:29 |
* jeff |
overhears interesting ssl conversations |
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| 11:33 |
yboston |
phasefx: if you have a second, here at the hack-a-way I was told about collab/phasefx/wheezy_installer , do you recommend I try these scritps for loading up EG with concerto easily? |
| 11:33 |
yboston |
phasefx: I can install EG manually, but I am curious about saving time and to help soemoen that has less expereince with installing EG |
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| 11:34 |
dbwells |
Hello fellow hacking folks. The stuff I am working on for bug #1064679 builds on the code in bug #1422379. Finding a way to move forward on that would be a good thing. |
| 11:34 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1064679 in Evergreen "Hourly due dates and fines ignore library closings" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064679 - Assigned to Dan Wells (dbw2) |
| 11:34 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1422379 in Evergreen "Move money.billing timestamps back to moment of fine" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422379 |
| 11:34 |
pastebot |
"Dyrcona" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "ldw my websockets magic" (20 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10 |
| 11:35 |
dbwells |
Just throwing it out there. |
| 11:35 |
yboston |
remingtron: thanks for that update. I already plugged DIG and our DIG meeting tomorrow :) |
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| 11:38 |
phasefx |
yboston: I'm a big fan of the wheezy_installer script |
| 11:39 |
phasefx |
yboston: the README, http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/random.git;a=blob_plain;f=README;hb=refs/heads/collab/phasefx/wheezy_installer |
| 11:41 |
yboston |
phasefx: my bad, I forgot to mention I have a Jessie VM at the moment |
| 11:41 |
jeff |
heh |
| 11:42 |
yboston |
phasefx: also, will it handle installing the web client? (I don;t mind going back to do those steps) |
| 11:42 |
phasefx |
yboston: no, I don't think it's been updated for web client |
| 11:45 |
yboston |
phasefx: no problem with web client, I hope I can do the web client steps after running these scripts and still ahve the web cleitn work |
| 11:45 |
yboston |
phasefx: so no problems being on Jessie as far as you know? |
| 11:46 |
jeff |
i would expect it to require modification work work on jessie. |
| 11:46 |
phasefx |
there's actually a jessie script in there, but I have no experience with it |
| 11:46 |
yboston |
thank you both |
| 11:46 |
phasefx |
looks to be based off the wheezy script |
| 11:47 |
jeff |
RoganH, et al: earlier default credentials were admin/open-ils |
| 11:47 |
phasefx |
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/random.git;a=blob;f=installer/jessie/README;h=8da9aac781cb2e2dcdfc49fb1ff33d41c9f21bd3;hb=refs/heads/collab/phasefx/wheezy_installer |
| 11:48 |
phasefx |
Josh worked on those |
| 11:48 |
yboston |
I screwed up and thought Bill had, I will reach out to Josh |
| 11:51 |
yboston |
jeff / phasefx : thoughts on using this script or installing EG manually, and then going back and running the steps for the web client. Any thoughts is that somehting that should be avoided, does it work at all? |
| 11:51 |
RoganH |
jeff: yeah, he's trying to get into the current demo box so I figured they were the more recent ones |
| 11:51 |
ldw |
gmcharlt: is my git key in the OpenSRF working repo? |
| 11:53 |
tsbere |
ldw: What key are you using? |
| 11:54 |
Dyrcona |
kenstir: Is android-master the canonical branch for the Android client? |
| 11:54 |
phasefx |
yboston: honestly, I haven't mastered installing the web client.. struggled through it, got it working, and left it at that. So I don't know. There _shouldn't_ be any reason that you couldn't just use one of those installers and go back after the fact for the web client |
| 11:54 |
* tsbere |
sees @arcadia, @thyrsus, and @mail keys for ldw |
| 11:55 |
yboston |
phasefx: thanks, looks like you and I are on the same boat witht he web client |
| 11:55 |
ldw |
tsbere: @arcadia I believe |
| 11:55 |
tsbere |
ldw: Then it should be working. "Key exists on the server" is the criteria for working repos. |
| 11:56 |
jeff |
uhoh. bshum's saying my name. |
| 11:56 |
ldw |
I may need to modify my ~/.ssh/config |
| 11:56 |
bshum |
jeff: YES, YES, I am! |
| 11:56 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1482336: use *.adoc as extension for extant release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=adb63b4> |
| 11:56 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP#1482336 - Add *.adoc support to create_release_notes.sh - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c970553> |
| 11:57 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: BlacBox++ |
| 11:58 |
Dyrcona |
blackbox++ even |
| 11:58 |
jeff |
heh. my Elasticsearch indexer was finding bre.id -1 on the incremental passes. |
| 11:58 |
jeff |
that's a large record. |
| 11:58 |
Dyrcona |
Um... -1? It's infinite, isn't it? |
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jeff |
curl -s "$ES_URL/records-v5/record/-1" | wc |
| 11:59 |
jeff |
0 53724 668233 |
| 12:01 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ # He beat me to testing the adoc branch. |
| 12:06 |
jeff |
lost the hangout. |
| 12:07 |
Dyrcona |
It comes and goes. |
| 12:07 |
Dyrcona |
I may just leave it. |
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kenstir |
Dyrcona: sorry wifi is spotty here. Yes, android-master is the canonical branch. |
| 12:10 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1406786: fix remapping copies during parts merge - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b4fa478> |
| 12:11 |
Dyrcona |
kenstir: Thanks. |
| 12:13 |
kenstir |
Dyrcona: np. I have been using IntelliJ IDEA to build it. Just today I tried android studio, and it built, but most of the assets are not visible in the GUI. I would recommend against it. |
| 12:13 |
Dyrcona |
kenstir: OK. Thanks for the information. |
| 12:14 |
jeff |
RoganH: unmute your mic if possible. |
| 12:14 |
kenstir |
Dyrcona: You probably know it works only for C/W MARS now. You or I could get it to work for a different network e.g. NOBLE in a very short amount of time. This week I will try to make it generic, but at the expense of requiring the patron to know the catalog URL. |
| 12:14 |
RoganH |
there we go, it keeps muting on it's own or someone else is unmuting their's and it auto mutes mine |
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jeff |
RoganH: "due to the number of participants", it's muted by default when you rejoin after network issue. |
| 12:15 |
RoganH |
ah |
| 12:15 |
RoganH |
Yeah, we're having some wifi hiccups here. |
| 12:16 |
jeff |
jboyer_laptaupe: taking notes for next year? ;-) |
| 12:17 |
jboyer_laptaupe |
jeff, I have certainly taken notice, yes. ;) |
| 12:17 |
Dyrcona |
kenstir: From looking at the logs, it looks like it ought to be in a repository of its own. |
| 12:17 |
dbs |
kenstir / jeff: if only we had a canonical list of all Evergreen libraries online somewhere, with their URLs... he said, guiltily |
| 12:18 |
jeff |
hey, that sounds useful! |
| 12:18 |
kenstir |
dbs: that sounds useful, the reason I went with C/W MARS only at first is that not even all the librarians could tell me the catalog URL |
| 12:18 |
* jeff |
dusts off plans |
| 12:19 |
kenstir |
Dyrcona: I agree, the app doesn't share really anything, not even opensrf.jar |
| 12:20 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1503782: fix horizontal scrollbar in MARC import queue inspector - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9ae09b7> |
| 12:22 |
dbwells |
kenstir: I know I advocated for the ability to enter the URL, but you are right, even some staff would have trouble knowing or finding it. |
| 12:22 |
dbwells |
No easy solution, but certainly some interesting ones, like the canonical list. |
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jeff |
THERE IS NO SCREEN THERE IS ONLY TMUX |
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| 12:24 |
Dyrcona |
jeff++ |
| 12:24 |
Dyrcona |
tmux++ |
| 12:25 |
Dyrcona |
I'd be more interested in an app for staff. |
| 12:26 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Yamil Suarez] LP#1467634: Hide saved searches from screen readers for non-staff client - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e42fd2e> |
| 12:27 |
jeff |
"This Hangout has been removed due to a DMCA request from an unnamed library vendor." |
| 12:27 |
dbwells |
On the other hand, if there is presumably a page telling users about the app and instructions for installing, it isn't so bad to say "now type this url in...". Not smooth, but functional. |
| 12:28 |
dbwells |
Anyway, just my two cents after having not thought too much about for a while :) |
| 12:28 |
jeff |
dbwells: not terrible, but "find your library by name" or "find your library by zip code / phone number" is what I'd prefer. |
| 12:28 |
dbwells |
jeff: Yes, definitely better if it happens |
| 12:29 |
Dyrcona |
On one side of me, they are tearing down the building. |
| 12:29 |
* dbwells |
disappears for lunch |
| 12:29 |
Dyrcona |
On the other, a different group of workers are preparing to pour concrete for a pillar to support a walkway. |
| 12:31 |
* jeff |
stops talking and starts coding |
| 13:07 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jake Litrell] LP#1340852: Retain search params for copy location groups - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1a5a137> |
| 13:07 |
Dyrcona |
jlitrell++ |
| 13:07 |
kenstir |
dbwells: gmcharlt had a vision of a hosted JSON service that associated network names and catalog URLs. Then a generic app with a welcome activity "choose your library system" makes a lot of sense. |
| 13:08 |
Dyrcona |
Well, if each library/consortium had its own app in the store, it would allow for "branding." |
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gmcharlt |
right - and libraries could choose between relatively easy (building their localized version) and easy (adding themselves to the directory) |
| 13:11 |
RoganH |
@karma sip |
| 13:11 |
pinesol_green |
RoganH: Karma for "sip" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
| 13:12 |
RoganH |
sip-- |
| 13:12 |
RoganH |
sip-- |
| 13:12 |
RoganH |
sip-- |
| 13:12 |
berick |
jboyer_laptaupe: 1497335 |
| 13:12 |
RoganH |
@karma sip |
| 13:12 |
pinesol_green |
RoganH: Karma for "sip" has been increased 0 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -4. |
| 13:12 |
Dyrcona |
@karma |
| 13:12 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Highest karma: "Dyrcona" (159), "kmlussier" (148), "bshum" (118), "jeff" (98), and "yboston" (95). Lowest karma: "iii" (-8), "ie" (-7), "typos" (-6), "java" (-4), and "SIP" (-4). You (Dyrcona) are ranked 1 out of 231. |
| 13:12 |
Dyrcona |
java++ |
| 13:13 |
RoganH |
Java should be at least one better than SIP so I approve. |
| 13:13 |
Dyrcona |
@karma java |
| 13:13 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Karma for "java" has been increased 1 time and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -3. |
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Dyrcona |
heh. |
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bshum |
jlitrell++ |
| 13:20 |
jlitrell |
Yesssss, internet points! |
| 13:20 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
| 13:25 |
kmlussier |
Just added jlitrell to http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing:contributors! |
| 13:25 |
kmlussier |
jlitrell++ |
| 13:26 |
Dyrcona |
I use a Perl script to run the upgrade scripts for master. |
| 13:27 |
dbwells |
kenstir: gmcharlt: Yes, definitely the right idea (re: centralized DB for app config, etc.). What do folks feel is the biggest hurdle to making it happen? It seems like more of an organization problem than a technical one. Maybe best to just forge ahead and see where it goes. |
| 13:29 |
dbs |
this is, btw, close to the same thing that jeff and I had agreed to work on for the web team a long time ago. my bad for not really doing anything about it. |
| 13:30 |
jeff |
sorry, had a meeting on my calendar. i've been prototyping said service. |
| 13:30 |
dbs |
jeff++ |
| 13:31 |
dbs |
that also gives us the ability to use the public APIs or /eg/opac/library/ pages to pull in address info (for plotting on maps), collection info, etc |
| 13:31 |
jeff |
we do not at present have any type of unique numeric identifier for evergreen libraries or systems / installations. i'm inclined to go with a meaningless serial. |
| 13:32 |
gmcharlt |
seems reasonable |
| 13:33 |
dbwells |
Yes, we'd definitely want to piggy-back on anything in progress. |
| 13:33 |
gmcharlt |
does your prototype store geo coords? |
| 13:33 |
jeff |
given a library system name and a hostname, we can cache things like claimed Evergreen version and constituent libraries in the org tree, so that a search can be performed by branch name, etc. |
| 13:34 |
dbs |
addresses can be geocoded in the worst case scenario |
| 13:34 |
dbs |
the less we have to ask people for, the better. but would be nice to enable them to fine-tune cases where the geocoding is off |
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| 13:54 |
jeff |
came back to my desk and plugged my headphones into the wrong device. bah! |
| 13:56 |
gmcharlt |
IRC dev meeting starts in a few minutes |
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gmcharlt |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2015-11-04 |
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bshum |
#startmeeting 2015-11-04 - Developer Meeting |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting started Wed Nov 4 14:02:04 2015 US/Eastern. The chair is bshum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:02 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:02 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to '2015_11_04___developer_meeting' |
| 14:02 |
bshum |
#link Agenda - http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2015-11-04 |
| 14:02 |
bshum |
#topic Introductions |
| 14:02 |
bshum |
#info bshum = Ben Shum, Bibliomation |
| 14:02 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, Merrimack Valley Library Consortium |
| 14:02 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, ESI |
| 14:02 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| 14:02 |
jeff |
#info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
| 14:02 |
tsbere |
#info tsbere = Thomas Berezansky, Merrimack Valley Library Consortium |
| 14:02 |
jlitrell |
#info jlitrell = Jake Litrell, MassLNC |
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berick |
#info berick = Bill Erickson King County Lib. System |
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jboyer_laptaupe |
#info jboyer_laptaupe = Jason Boyer, Evergreen IN, IN State Lib |
| 14:03 |
dbwells |
#info dbwells = Dan Wells, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
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remingtron |
#info remingtron = Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
| 14:04 |
bshum |
#topic Release Manager Election |
| 14:04 |
bshum |
gmcharlt has been nominated |
| 14:05 |
gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton's proposal: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-dev/2015-October/009942.html |
| 14:05 |
bshum |
Any other nominations before we proceed to vote? |
| 14:06 |
bshum |
Any comments? |
| 14:06 |
bshum |
gmcharlt++ # biased |
| 14:07 |
csharp |
#info csharp is Chris Sharp, GPL |
| 14:07 |
csharp |
S |
| 14:08 |
Dyrcona |
No comments, let us proceed to the coronation. |
| 14:08 |
dbwells |
The proposed release date is my birthday, so there's that :) |
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| 14:08 |
bshum |
#startvote Should gmcharlt be our next release manager? Yes, No |
| 14:08 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: Should gmcharlt be our next release manager? Valid vote options are Yes, No. |
| 14:08 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:09 |
bshum |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
dbwells |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
csharp |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
berick |
#vote yes |
| 14:09 |
jeff |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
jboyer_laptaupe |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
phasefx |
#vote Yes |
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jlitrell |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
Dyrcona |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
remingtron |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
kmlussier |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
dbs |
#yes |
| 14:09 |
gmcharlt |
#vote Yes |
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dbs |
#info dbs = Dan Scott, Laurentian University |
| 14:09 |
dbs |
#vote Yes |
| 14:09 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, ESI |
| 14:10 |
swedish_chef |
#voot yaass |
| 14:10 |
bshum |
#endvote |
| 14:10 |
pinesol_green |
Voted on "Should gmcharlt be our next release manager?" Results are |
| 14:10 |
pinesol_green |
Yes (13): kmlussier, jlitrell, jeff, phasefx, remingtron, berick, dbwells, Dyrcona, gmcharlt, csharp, bshum, jboyer_laptaupe, dbs |
| 14:10 |
csharp |
swedish_chef++ |
| 14:10 |
bshum |
Congratulations gmcharlt. |
| 14:10 |
jeff |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:11 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:11 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:11 |
bshum |
#topic Hack-A-Way update |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
#info berick gave a great presentation/proposal on using Sqitch for managing schema update during development |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
#info Shared notes for the Hack-a-Way: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wbIiU47kSElcg0hG2o-ZJ9hNmyM8v7rOWyi8jGvA38/edit# |
| 14:12 |
dbwells |
berick++ |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
#info jlitrell got his first Evergreen patch merged earlier today |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
bshum |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
berick |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
dbwells |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
jeff |
berick++ |
| 14:12 |
jeff |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
remingtron |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:12 |
csharp |
jlitrell++ |
| 14:13 |
csharp |
@karma kmlussier |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Karma for "kmlussier" has been increased 148 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 148. |
| 14:13 |
bshum |
Anything else for the Hack-A-Way update? I think we got stuff on the google doc to be discussed tomorrow. |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt |
#info various patches from the pullrequest queue have been merged |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt |
reviewers++ |
| 14:13 |
jeff |
since it's topical to hack-a-way: RoganH's audio is currently muted. |
| 14:14 |
bshum |
Noted. |
| 14:14 |
jeff |
(fixed) |
| 14:14 |
bshum |
So, that's all that's on the agenda for today's special meeting. |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
If there's nothing else, we shall end early. |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
:) |
| 14:15 |
berick |
#info we installed Hatch on the local PC and did some experimenting w/ printing. some good, some needs work. |
| 14:15 |
gmcharlt |
berick++ |
| 14:15 |
gmcharlt |
csharp++ # testing hatch |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
#endmeeting |
| 14:15 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Wed Nov 4 14:15:39 2015 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:15 |
dbwells |
Any word on the search discussion time? I'd like to listen in, but have a meeting until 3:30 tomorrow. If it's better earlier, that's alright. |
| 14:15 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-11-04-14.02.html |
| 14:15 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-11-04-14.02.txt |
| 14:15 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-11-04-14.02.log.html |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
Okay, thanks all. |
| 14:15 |
gmcharlt |
bshum++ |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
bshum++ |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
kmlussier++ # cookies |
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| 14:16 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: You still have some time to drive over if you want some cookies. :) |
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jeff |
2015-11-04 14:21:10,021 INFO: Loaded state {'last_edit_date': u'2015-11-04 13:26:03.240554-05:00', 'last_id': 46683956} |
| 14:22 |
jeff |
2015-11-04 14:22:00,432 INFO: indexed 562 records ending with date 2015-11-04 14:21:08.435596-05:00 id 45011502 |
| 14:22 |
jeff |
2015-11-04 14:22:00,476 INFO: DONE with incremental! |
| 14:22 |
jeff |
still slower than i'd like, but fast enough for now. |
| 14:25 |
jeff |
(and yes, we only had 562 bibs with updates on the bib/cn/acp in that ~1h span) |
| 14:26 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: Thanks, but the way things are going for me this week, I'll play it safe and stay off the road. |
| 14:30 |
bshum |
csharp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/922128 |
| 14:30 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 922128 in Evergreen "Scrollbars non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Ben Shum (bshum) |
| 14:32 |
Dyrcona |
I've never seen that one happen, myself. |
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| 14:51 |
berick |
I proposed we not have the regularly scheduled 3pm est IRC dev meeting today :) |
| 14:51 |
tsbere |
+1 |
| 14:52 |
dbwells |
seconded |
| 14:52 |
berick |
dbwells: i am curious, though, if you have any news on the password storage branch |
| 14:52 |
berick |
probably about time I rebase that to master |
| 14:53 |
dbwells |
berick: I have not proceeded with my bold intentions, but no time like the present, I suppose |
| 14:53 |
berick |
heh |
| 14:54 |
berick |
well, just wondering :) |
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Dyrcona |
Stompro++ |
| 15:09 |
Dyrcona |
I just asked, "Can Evergreen send an email before a patron's account expires?" |
| 15:09 |
Dyrcona |
I said, "Yes, when we upgrade to 2.9." |
| 15:09 |
Dyrcona |
Someone just asked me... duh. |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
Showing latest 5 of 7 commits to Evergreen... |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1384740 MARC stream importer auth release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=465b0e2> |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1384740 MARC stream (etc) use auth nonce - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5cb6e6b> |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1384740 marc_stream_importer no-import repairs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=38050c1> |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1384740 marc_stream_importer test script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ad72cfc> |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1384740 marc_stream_importer auth and cleanup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=17cc186> |
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| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere: Real time updates of thing1-access if you select me in the hangout. It's getting close. |
| 15:18 |
berick |
gmcharlt++ |
| 15:21 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
gmcharlt: lp 1371647 |
| 15:21 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1371647 in Evergreen "config.marc21_ff_pos_map needs an audit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371647 |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere: I'm going to let it run until it gets bad. I've seen it do this and it usually clears up in a few minutes. |
| 15:24 |
gmcharlt |
RoganH: kenstir: https://evergreen-ils.org/testing/libraries.json |
| 15:24 |
RoganH |
gmchart: thanks! |
| 15:24 |
RoganH |
gmcharlt even! |
| 15:24 |
gmcharlt |
RoganH: yeah, gmchart is off making maps |
| 15:25 |
RoganH |
gmcharlt: it's an honorable tradition even if you fall off the edge of the world |
| 15:28 |
csharp |
@quote add <kmlussier> I could talk about search all day. Some days I do. |
| 15:28 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: The operation succeeded. Quote #126 added. |
| 15:29 |
gmcharlt |
@quote add <RoganH> it's an honorable tradition even if you fall off the edge of the world |
| 15:29 |
pinesol_green |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #127 added. |
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Dyrcona |
wifi-- |
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kenstir |
RoganH++ |
| 16:01 |
csharp |
jboyer-laptaupe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/924952 |
| 16:01 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 924952 in Evergreen "Acquisitions: Order record loads fail when there is a null value in a holdings subfield" [High,Confirmed] |
| 16:05 |
kmlussier |
parts++ |
| 16:06 |
jeff |
it got quiet over there. |
| 16:07 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: bug 1501471 now can haz tests |
| 16:07 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1501471 in Evergreen "fetching OU settings in batch can be made faster" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501471 |
| 16:07 |
berick |
gmcharlt++ |
| 16:07 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ |
| 16:07 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 16:08 |
berick |
jeff: we're slaying beasts |
| 16:08 |
jeff |
goot, goot! |
| 16:11 |
jlitrell |
I love restarting servers from 1,000 miles away. Gets the blood pumping. |
| 16:13 |
dbwells |
berick: I've got some questions about the new auth code when you have a minute. |
| 16:16 |
berick |
csharp: srfsh# request open-ils.cstore open-ils.cstore.json_query {"from":["acq.extract_provider_holding_data", 1]} |
| 16:16 |
berick |
dbwells: what's up? |
| 16:16 |
dbwells |
berick: As it is, it breaks AuthProxy.pm as that module relies on the (perhaps naive) ability to simply lookup the user's password. |
| 16:16 |
berick |
dbwells: ah, ok, that can be fixed. we'll need to teach it to call the stored proc instead of loading the password and comparing |
| 16:17 |
* berick |
loads the code |
| 16:17 |
tsbere |
Have you taught SIP to call the stored proc yet? |
| 16:18 |
dbwells |
berick: I'm not sure that's really the issue, although maybe you're just a step ahead of me. |
| 16:18 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: heh, I was thinking that I would have to intentionally break a record in my test database to try out your patch for 1502152 |
| 16:18 |
gmcharlt |
as it happens... NOT NECESSARY. :) |
| 16:19 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, just some weird characters are enough. |
| 16:19 |
ldw |
what is the preferred way to send a message in dojo (ie not alert). |
| 16:19 |
ldw |
? |
| 16:19 |
dbwells |
berick: AuthProxy.pm is just a wrapper to call the normal auth mechanisms, so (as it is) it needs to know the user's hashed password to convince auth it's legitimate. |
| 16:19 |
berick |
dbwells: hmm, auth proxy is calling open-ils.auth.authenticate.* |
| 16:19 |
berick |
heh |
| 16:20 |
berick |
that should just work |
| 16:20 |
berick |
same as the tpac |
| 16:20 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: yeah, there's perhaps a minor irony in the fact that that ‡ character isn't in the MARC-8 character set |
| 16:20 |
berick |
dbwells: oh... |
| 16:20 |
dbwells |
berick: Yes, it can, but it would need to lookup the real hashed password in actor.passwd, I think. |
| 16:20 |
berick |
i see a problem |
| 16:20 |
berick |
yeah.. |
| 16:21 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: :) |
| 16:22 |
dbwells |
berick: There's other ways to get there, but ultimately we need some sort of private service which AuthProxy can use to say "trust me, this person is legitimate". A cstore lookup was a convenient mechanism for that, but not the cleanest, for sure. |
| 16:24 |
berick |
yeah, i'm trying to figure out what's going on here... |
| 16:25 |
dbwells |
berick: The simplest path to "working" would be to add cstore access to actor.passwd, but that's contrary to part of the reason we went this way, of course. |
| 16:27 |
berick |
actor.passwd will no longer have meaning |
| 16:27 |
dbwells |
berick: ok, I haven't looked that far ahead yet. |
| 16:30 |
miker |
berick: I don't recall ... are you re-hashing the existing password, and replacing the random seed with a salt? |
| 16:33 |
berick |
sorry, lot going on here |
| 16:33 |
jeff |
berick: injecting to the conversation -- i'd suggest moving angular to head with adding some css as the fallback if moving angular to head results in any WSOD. |
| 16:34 |
berick |
jeff: that's basically waht I was thinking |
| 16:34 |
jeff |
i suppose i could propose a bug and branch to get that rolling. such a small change, i guess i didn't back a month or so ago. |
| 16:35 |
berick |
dbwells: remind me, why does proxy have to call _do_login twice? |
| 16:35 |
berick |
miker: yes, to your question |
| 16:36 |
berick |
if you're using authenticate.* api, it should be all backwards compat |
| 16:36 |
* miker |
should look at dbwell's code ... |
| 16:37 |
dbwells |
berick: It doesn't call it twice for the same authenticator, I don't think. One call is just a passthru for the "native" auth. |
| 16:38 |
berick |
ohhh |
| 16:38 |
berick |
ok, i see |
| 16:38 |
dbwells |
The second call is if we authenticated via 3rd party. |
| 16:38 |
dbwells |
okay |
| 16:38 |
berick |
for non-native, it's just testing the password |
| 16:38 |
berick |
well, it's faking an internal login |
| 16:38 |
berick |
by loading the password |
| 16:38 |
berick |
and sending it on to aut |
| 16:39 |
dbwells |
yes |
| 16:40 |
berick |
hmm |
| 16:41 |
dbwells |
It was the simplest way to get all the trappings of a normal login without messing with auth or duplicating the token code, etc. Of course we're messing with auth now, so it makes sense to me to find a more direct path. |
| 16:41 |
bshum |
yboston: https://evergreen-ils.org/~bshum/Evergreen-README.html#_optional_extra_steps_for_browser_based_staff_client |
| 16:42 |
berick |
dbwells: yeah, we may have to teach AuthProxy to create the cached auth data directly |
| 16:42 |
berick |
when auth'ing from an external source |
| 16:42 |
miker |
dbwells: the implied functionality is that the passwords can be different between the external and native systems, and you trust the external. correct? |
| 16:42 |
bshum |
yboston: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/bshum/README-webclient |
| 16:42 |
dbwells |
berick: that's certainly an option. |
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| 16:44 |
miker |
(I say implied because I don't see a code comment ... and I haven't gone looking for release notes. It may very well be explicit elsewhere :) ) |
| 16:45 |
dbwells |
miker: Yes, although it will (via possible config) fall thru to use the internal password if the extenal fails. In fact, in an early version we simply had all the internal passwords set the same to a random value, which AuthProxy then used to login, but that puts a lot of weight on that one value. |
| 16:46 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: I think you pushed something to working master that you meant to go to origin master. |
| 16:47 |
gmcharlt |
shoot; me takes a look |
| 16:47 |
Dyrcona |
Oh, never mind. I botched my git log.... :) |
| 16:47 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: ok, at least that was easy to recover from |
| 16:47 |
Dyrcona |
Er, wait, no... |
| 16:48 |
* Dyrcona |
is confuzzled. |
| 16:48 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: I had indeed pushed to working/master rather than origin/master |
| 16:48 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah. |
| 16:48 |
gmcharlt |
I fixed it by pushing the same patches to origin/master |
| 16:48 |
Dyrcona |
Let me fetch again. |
| 16:49 |
Dyrcona |
OK. Thanks. |
| 16:49 |
dbwells |
I think what could work would be a new private service with an "open-ils.auth.authorize" method (or some such) which simply encapsulates oilsAuthHandleLoginOK() (and maybe a few other bits), and which can then be called by any code with private router access (auth, auth_proxy, etc.) to create a complete user session. |
| 16:49 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1502152: (follow-up) fix a typo - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a9d80dc> |
| 16:49 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP 1502152: Improve marc_export warnings. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cf4410e> |
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* Dyrcona |
laughs at his typo. |
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berick |
dbwells: that would work |
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dbwells |
It would limit the duality of the code, I think, but maybe overkill? I'm not sure. |
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berick |
well, it would be good to have it all going through one entry point, since Perl vs. C memcache clients have been known to push the same key to different servers |
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[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1251415: (follow-up) update release note extension - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fef3298> |
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[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1251415: juv-to-adult release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1b142be> |
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[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1251415: Juv-to-adult live test - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3f46924> |
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[evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1251415: Skip deleted users in juvenile update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3b630bd> |
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[evergreen|Steven Callender] LP#1251415: Use the juvenile setting when removing juvenile flag. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0fd4ecc> |
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