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kmlussier |
@coffee |
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* pinesol_green |
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jl- |
@coffee |
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* pinesol_green |
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phasefx |
@beer |
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pinesol_green |
phasefx: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=6&url=evergreen-ils.org |
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tsbere |
@bartender phasefx |
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* pinesol_green |
fills a pint glass with Unibroue 11, and sends it sliding down the bar to phasefx (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/7361/) |
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phasefx |
tsbere++ |
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Bmagic |
hey all, I wanted to share a discover for me. I was in a situation where I needed to grant a staff account the ability to override the "The patron has reached the maximum number of holds" error. When the patron had the "Everything" permission, the system would allow them to override but otherwise, I could not find the single permission that allowed this |
| 12:24 |
Bmagic |
After digging through the code, it looks like the error is "MAX_HOLDS" located in a hash map inside of PermitHold.pm on line 211 (EG 2.4.1) |
| 12:25 |
Bmagic |
This is apart of "LEGACY_HOLD_EVENT_MAP" and we (I assume everyone) didnt have a MAX_HOLDS.override permission in the system. I am pleased to say that adding this permission to permission.perm_list and then assigning it to the staff patron, the system allowed the override! |
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mmorgan |
Bmagic++ |
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mmorgan |
So does that mean that MAX_HOLDS.override should be included in the stock Evergreen permissions? |
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Bmagic |
mmorgan: I believe so, I am writing a bug report on launchpad |
| 12:52 |
mmorgan |
Awesome! |
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kmlussier |
Bmagic++ |
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phasefx |
anyone want to sanity check my logic on staff client bandwidth requirements? |
| 13:13 |
phasefx |
simply logging into an already registered staff client with stock test data seems to pull down 2.1MB of data in about 15 seconds. That seems to be the most demanding activity as far as bandwidth goes. Checking in 10 items, for example, only pulls 83.6KB and uploads 15.4KB |
| 13:14 |
phasefx |
so, let's take the login example, 2.1MB in 15 seconds = 143.36 KBps. If we had 10 staff doing that at exactly the same time, we'd have 143.36 KBps * 10 = 1.4 MBps = 11.2 Mbps |
| 13:15 |
phasefx |
residential Charter internet offers 30 Mbps down. So for 10 staff, residential Charter should be sufficient? |
| 13:16 |
* phasefx |
looks at the upload side of it |
| 13:17 |
phasefx |
4Mbps upstream for Charter |
| 13:19 |
phasefx |
so say we use checkin as our worst case scenario for upstream, 10 staff checking in 10 items each in...optimistic 10 seconds. 15.4KB/10s * 10 = .12 Mbps |
| 13:30 |
jeff |
latency and ack starvation from a saturated connection are bigger concerns than bandwidth. |
| 13:31 |
* phasefx |
can believe, but doesn't know how to tell folks to "shop" for that :( |
| 13:32 |
tsbere |
phasefx: At this point I generally tell people "if you can get X people browsing the internet on the connection then you can run that many staff clients" >_> |
| 13:32 |
jeff |
mostly it comes down to it being a good idea to have some means (before the cable modem) to prevent bandwidth-hungry applications (say, patron wireless) from impacting staff evergreen operations. |
| 13:32 |
gmcharlt |
well, at least one thing /not/ to shop for is satellite internet |
| 13:32 |
phasefx |
:D |
| 13:36 |
dbs |
2mb of data to log in? Wow. |
| 13:37 |
dbs |
Is that gzip-compressed? |
| 13:37 |
phasefx |
yeah, we made some movement to try caching that stuff, but it got stalled between different implementation ideas |
| 13:37 |
phasefx |
IIRC |
| 13:38 |
phasefx |
dbs: this is my dev server, where would I look? |
| 13:39 |
phasefx |
my eg_vhost.conf is very close to stock |
| 13:39 |
phasefx |
looks like there's a rule saying SetEnv no-gzip for /xul/.*\.xul |
| 13:40 |
phasefx |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1102300 |
| 13:40 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1102300 in Evergreen "speed up staff client login sequence" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,Triaged] |
| 13:43 |
* jeff |
revisits making the default sort for bre container searches be "order added to list, desc" |
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kmlussier |
jeff: What is the default sort now? |
| 13:45 |
jeff |
kmlussier: relevance. |
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| 13:45 |
jeff |
kmlussier: which is pretty meaningless in a bre container search, i think. |
| 13:46 |
kmlussier |
jeff: Yes, order added makes a little more sense. Actually, a lot more sense. |
| 13:47 |
tsbere |
jeff: Should pos be first (when set)? |
| 13:47 |
jeff |
step 1: get working proof of concept, step 2: post working branch for eeevil and tsbere to poke holes in ;-) |
| 13:47 |
jeff |
tsbere: when set, likely. |
| 13:48 |
jeff |
tsbere: haven't given thought to what to do when date-added-to-bucket is desired and pos is set, of course. |
| 13:48 |
tsbere |
jeff: note that I am not sure anything ever sets that right now, but I still figure it may be a good thing to throw in there if you are doing the work to add other sorting. |
| 13:48 |
jeff |
tsbere: is anything UI-wise currently setting pos? |
| 13:49 |
jeff |
one challenge is that i want to ORDER BY a field from a table that is CTE'd with an alias that i don't have the ability to predict -- determining where to store that for later use right now. |
| 13:50 |
jeff |
maybe stuffing it someplace in the queryparser object -- seems logical, just not certain yet. getting my feet wet with QueryParser internals (after an initially aborted attempt a few weeks back :-) |
| 13:52 |
tsbere |
jeff: For added fun, what about when someone jams two containers into one search? >_> |
| 13:52 |
jeff |
tsbere: fallback to current behavior. |
| 13:53 |
jeff |
tsbere: my proposed change is essentially 'when doing a single-bre-container search, "Relevance" means "date added to list, descending"' |
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krvmga |
would someone explain to me as if i'm a five year old what record density means for search returns? |
| 14:05 |
krvmga |
feel free to use alphabet blocks as needed |
| 14:06 |
rfrasur |
krvmga++ #I can't help but I can empathize. |
| 14:06 |
krvmga |
:) |
| 14:06 |
tsbere |
krvmga: I think the general gist is "the more the record contains what you searched for the more relevant it is" |
| 14:07 |
kmlussier |
krvmga: I can't explain. I can use examples. A keyword showing up five times in a record with 100 words has more density than if it shows up two times in a record with 100 words. However, it shows up five times in a record with 100 words, it has less density than if it shows up five times in a record with 50 words. |
| 14:07 |
tsbere |
krvmga: Which means that your search term coming up five times in 10,000 words in the record is less relevant than once in 100 words. |
| 14:07 |
kmlussier |
krvmga: What tsbere said. |
| 14:08 |
krvmga |
tsbere++ |
| 14:08 |
krvmga |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:08 |
krvmga |
i understand now. thank you very much. |
| 14:08 |
krvmga |
i thought i understood before but i was missing the x times in x words bit |
| 14:09 |
krvmga |
wow, now i want to have cake. |
| 14:09 |
krvmga |
whenever i get an "ah ha!", i always want to celebrate. |
| 14:09 |
kmlussier |
@dessert krvmga |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs some Pineapple Upside Down Cake for krvmga |
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krvmga |
lol |
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* kmlussier |
is still waiting on her squash pie. ;) |
| 14:10 |
krvmga |
as it happens, i _love_ pineapple upside down cake. |
| 14:11 |
krvmga |
kmlussier will enjoy squash pie on monday. |
| 14:11 |
krvmga |
i will make it happen. |
| 14:11 |
* kmlussier |
will make sure she doesn't call out sick Monday. |
| 14:11 |
krvmga |
:) |
| 14:11 |
kmlussier |
krvmga: Don't let the systems staff see it before I get there. They eat everything. |
| 14:12 |
krvmga |
i will be careful of that. |
| 14:26 |
krvmga |
one last question about density: how does the system calculate "words"? |
| 14:26 |
krvmga |
words in a record, i mean. |
| 14:26 |
tsbere |
krvmga: Words in the indexed data is more accurate |
| 14:26 |
krvmga |
tsbere++ # excellent |
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* eeevil |
reads up ... |
| 14:44 |
eeevil |
jeff: I think a sort axis makes sense. as for date+pos, I'd say "ORDER BY pos NULLS LAST, date" |
| 14:45 |
eeevil |
jeff: but, there are use cases for sorting by rel ... search within a container, for instance |
| 14:51 |
jeff |
eeevil: ah yes, point. |
| 14:51 |
jeff |
(one i had considered and forgotten) |
| 15:06 |
eeevil |
crmhttp://shisaa.jp/postset/postgresql-full-text-search-part-3.html has an OK overview on ranking. we use ts_rank_cd() (relevant to the post) |
| 15:06 |
eeevil |
er |
| 15:06 |
eeevil |
krvmga: http://shisaa.jp/postset/postgresql-full-text-search-part-3.html has an OK overview on ranking. we use ts_rank_cd() (relevant to the post) |
| 15:07 |
krvmga |
eeevil++ |
| 15:07 |
krvmga |
thanks |
| 15:07 |
eeevil |
np |
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* dbs |
shamelessly points at http://stuff.coffeecode.net/2012/pgopen_fulltext/ for an overview of full-text search in postgresql in general |
| 15:10 |
dbs |
very shallow on the differences between ts_rank and ts_rank_cd though. |
| 15:11 |
kmlussier |
If memory serves me correctly, the stock PO JEDI Template now uses the vendor SAN instead of the name, so http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.6/_troubleshooting.html#_po_jedi_template_issues might be obsolete? |
| 15:11 |
krvmga |
dbs++ |
| 15:11 |
kmlussier |
But it might not be a bad idea to add a reminder to update the template, because I don't think the most current PO JEDI template was ever included in upgrade scripts. |
| 15:12 |
krvmga |
i am enjoying both of these articles. |
| 15:15 |
krvmga |
even though i occasionally feel like i'm trying to gnarfle the garthok. |
| 15:17 |
phasefx |
twas brillig, and the slithy toves |
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jeff |
* [new branch] container_date_sort -> user/jeff/container_date_sort |
| 15:44 |
jeff |
basic proof of concept, but it seems to work okay. |
| 15:44 |
jeff |
and hopefully the method i used wasn't too evil. |
| 15:46 |
jeff |
haven't tried breaking it too much yet. |
| 15:46 |
jeff |
that's forward-ported to master from testing on 2.5 |
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jboyer-laptaupe |
phasefx: Do you think you could pull out a memory about a line of code you wrote 8 years ago? :D |
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phasefx |
jboyer-laptaupe: maybe |
| 16:12 |
phasefx |
print "hello world\n"; |
| 16:12 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
I've gotten a question about changing the Type of a receipt in the receipt editor. Apparently that drop-down was enabled at some point in the past (at least here) but if we made any changes to enable it they never hit git. |
| 16:13 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
Do you know if there's a reason that the type of a receipt shouldn't be changed? The svn commit log where it was disabled got cut short in the transition to git. |
| 16:14 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
It's an easy one-line change, but if it's going to break things I'd rather leave it be. |
| 16:14 |
phasefx |
IIRC, the only role that type plays is in picking the test data for the preview pane. It's informational only |
| 16:15 |
phasefx |
I may had delusions in the past of letting you switch to different test data sets |
| 16:15 |
phasefx |
have had |
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jboyer-laptaupe |
Hmm. I may need to see examples of what people are talking about here then. Someone wants to add billing info (balance_owed, etc.) to items_out, which I don't think will fly, though they claim it worked in the past. |
| 16:16 |
phasefx |
jboyer-laptaupe: what would you imagine the behavior might be if you could change the type? |
| 16:17 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
I didn't think it did anything, I'm told that it would allow you to pull in, say, billing macros when you're actually printing checkout or items_out. |
| 16:17 |
phasefx |
jboyer-laptaupe: the template does get a fleshed patron object from Items Out.. may be possible to get to billing data via javascript there |
| 16:19 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
Would it have to run in the staff client, or could it be included with the custom_print OU setting? |
| 16:20 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
Basically by that I mean would we have to make code changes centrally or just tell libs "put this stuff in your receipts" |
| 16:21 |
phasefx |
if you have custom_print using %receipt.html%, then you should still be able to use javascript stuff in the template. Not so sure about %receipt.txt% |
| 16:21 |
phasefx |
of course, you can't do javascript stuff so directly anymore |
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phasefx |
jboyer-laptaupe: hrmm, I'm thinking you may have to edit print.js and provide a custom macro |
| 16:23 |
hbrennan |
I could use some help figuring out permissions to edit things in Library Settings... |
| 16:23 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
That's what I was thinking it might take in the end. |
| 16:24 |
phasefx |
jboyer-laptaupe: you see the examples where it's doing stuff like referencing params.patron.first_given_name().. that patron object is fleshed, but I don't know how well fleshed |
| 16:24 |
hbrennan |
I am trying to set up online patron self-registration, but can't edit the fields. I got the UPDATE_ORG_SETTINGS, but ti still isn't letting me |
| 16:25 |
phasefx |
jboyer-laptaupe: if .billable_transactions() is fleshed, then you're in business |
| 16:25 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
I'll keep poking around to see what people really want and how badly they want it. |
| 16:25 |
jboyer-laptaupe |
Thanks! phasefx++ |
| 16:26 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: I'll give it a poke with a minimal account |
| 16:27 |
hbrennan |
Thanks |
| 16:27 |
hbrennan |
I just looked and UPDATE_ORG_SETTING is only set to branch, but that's all we have and all I'm trying to set up |
| 16:28 |
phasefx |
you mean UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING_ALL? |
| 16:28 |
hbrennan |
I don't see one that says all |
| 16:28 |
hbrennan |
I'm just looking in my patron screen though |
| 16:28 |
phasefx |
I don't see UPDATE_ORG_SETTING :( |
| 16:28 |
hbrennan |
haha |
| 16:28 |
hbrennan |
oh boy |
| 16:29 |
hbrennan |
Maybe it's different if you're looking in Admin > Local > Permissions? |
| 16:30 |
hbrennan |
I don't have permission to view the permissions, except in my patron acct under Other |
| 16:30 |
phasefx |
okay, I see UPDATE_ORG_SETTING now |
| 16:31 |
hbrennan |
Isn't that what I need? |
| 16:31 |
phasefx |
well.. it's a pre-requisite |
| 16:31 |
phasefx |
the settings themselves may be configured to use more specific permissions |
| 16:31 |
phasefx |
what's a specific setting you're interested in? |
| 16:32 |
hbrennan |
Actually, things are stranger.. I see a checkbox for my acct that says VIEW_PERMISSION, yet it's grayed out under Admin |
| 16:32 |
hbrennan |
that's a whole other story I guess |
| 16:32 |
hbrennan |
I want to get to everything to set up the patron self-registration |
| 16:32 |
hbrennan |
which should all be in Library Settings |
| 16:33 |
phasefx |
I see a opac.self_register.timeout, aka Patron Self-Reg. Display Timeout |
| 16:33 |
phasefx |
opac.allow_pending_user aka Allow Patron Self-Registration |
| 16:34 |
hbrennan |
OPAC: Allow Patron Self-Registration |
| 16:34 |
hbrennan |
a bunch under OPAC |
| 16:34 |
phasefx |
opac.pending_user_expire_interval => Patron Self-Reg. Expire Interval |
| 16:34 |
hbrennan |
and some GUI |
| 16:34 |
hbrennan |
to edit the form |
| 16:34 |
phasefx |
so I don't see any special perms for those in stock |
| 16:35 |
hbrennan |
No, sorry, those are some of the Library Settings I need to edit |
| 16:35 |
* phasefx |
will try it with his test user |
| 16:35 |
hbrennan |
so I need more permissions besides just UPDATE_ORG_SETTINGS |
| 16:35 |
phasefx |
maybe, not sure yet |
| 16:36 |
hbrennan |
someday I'll create a list of "If you want to do this" you need these permissions at these levels |
| 16:36 |
phasefx |
alright, so I created a Volunteer and granted UPDATE_ORG_SETTINGS at Branch level |
| 16:36 |
hbrennan |
okay |
| 16:37 |
hbrennan |
A volunteer is standard patron but with no late fees |
| 16:37 |
hbrennan |
just FYI :) |
| 16:37 |
phasefx |
a stock Volunteer, that is, which is a staff member in this case |
| 16:37 |
hbrennan |
oh, okie dok |
| 16:38 |
phasefx |
and.. I see the settings, but get nothing in the context menu, so can't change anything |
| 16:39 |
phasefx |
alright, so what are we missing... |
| 16:39 |
hbrennan |
I can type things in the context and value and hit save, but it doesn't update |
| 16:39 |
hbrennan |
or throw out any messages |
| 16:39 |
phasefx |
got VIEW_ORG_SETTINGS ? |
| 16:40 |
hbrennan |
Yes, at consortium level |
| 16:40 |
hbrennan |
but this is where that "have VIEW_PERMISSIONS" thing comes in |
| 16:40 |
hbrennan |
because that is checked for me |
| 16:40 |
hbrennan |
but I can't get to Admin > Server > Permissions |
| 16:41 |
hbrennan |
So the checked permissions that I see aren't lining up with what I can actually do |
| 16:41 |
tsbere |
UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING_ALL would allow editing everything....otherwise I thought you needed specific update permissions as defined on the setting types |
| 16:41 |
hbrennan |
Okay, so that must be under permissions ( the full one) |
| 16:41 |
phasefx |
okay, if you don't have UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING_ALL, then you need a specific permission I think, but only certain settings might have specific permissions |
| 16:42 |
hbrennan |
can you check if there is a permission setting to view permissions that is different, such as one with an ALL |
| 16:42 |
hbrennan |
? |
| 16:42 |
phasefx |
I suspect UPDATE_ORG_SETTINGS is cruft |
| 16:42 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: not sure I'm following |
| 16:43 |
tsbere |
phasefx: I agree on that, the only things that reference it in master are the 1.6.1-2.0 upgrade script, seed values, and the 0026 upgrade script |
| 16:43 |
hbrennan |
Are you looking at permissions under Admin > server > Permissions? |
| 16:43 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: no |
| 16:43 |
hbrennan |
phasefx: Hmm, where are you? |
| 16:43 |
phasefx |
to see whether my test user had a permission or not, I was using the User Perm Editor |
| 16:44 |
hbrennan |
in your "patron" info? |
| 16:44 |
phasefx |
well, I went in through the Admin menu, but through the patron display is an option |
| 16:44 |
hbrennan |
okay |
| 16:44 |
hbrennan |
and those show different options than on mine... |
| 16:44 |
hbrennan |
does this have to do with my permission group maybe? |
| 16:44 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: so tsbere confirms, UPDATE_ORG_SETTINGS does nothing |
| 16:45 |
hbrennan |
haha, thanks tsbere |
| 16:45 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: so you need UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING_ALL.. and if that's too powerful, then you have to create specific permissions for the settings you're wanting to allow access to, and grant those permissions instead |
| 16:45 |
phasefx |
and configure those settings to use those permissions |
| 16:45 |
hbrennan |
I should have no problems getting that |
| 16:46 |
hbrennan |
on our old system I had the highest level |
| 16:46 |
hbrennan |
we're trying something new with EG |
| 16:46 |
hbrennan |
but it's causing a lot of problems with time tracking down permissions |
| 16:47 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: I took a peek at your system, no permission group has that permission, but one user does |
| 16:47 |
hbrennan |
One more thing.. since you see more than I can, is there another setting for VIEW_PERMISSIONS? |
| 16:47 |
hbrennan |
Because that is checked, but again, not letting me view permissions |
| 16:47 |
hbrennan |
seeing the whole list of options would help me figure out what i needed |
| 16:48 |
hbrennan |
but I'm blind to some of them |
| 16:48 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: your Staff group (and descendents) has VIEW_PERMISSION at consortial level |
| 16:49 |
hbrennan |
yep, but I can't see permissions in Admin > Server > Permissions |
| 16:49 |
hbrennan |
it's grayed out so I can't even click on the menu item |
| 16:49 |
hbrennan |
I can get to Permission Groups |
| 16:49 |
phasefx |
ah |
| 16:49 |
hbrennan |
so there must be another permission to view permissions |
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hbrennan |
perhaps VIEW_PERMISSIONS_ALL |
| 16:50 |
phasefx |
a UI perission |
| 16:50 |
hbrennan |
yes |
| 16:50 |
hbrennan |
just to see the list that you can see |
| 16:50 |
hbrennan |
because UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTINGS_ALL is not on my list to see |
| 16:51 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: you need one of these: CREATE_PERM DELETE_PERM UPDATE_PERM |
| 16:51 |
phasefx |
in order to have that menu option enabled |
| 16:51 |
phasefx |
maybe all of them, but I think just one |
| 16:52 |
hbrennan |
ok, and then that sounds like I can just set my own permissions |
| 16:52 |
hbrennan |
Which would be fine with me |
| 16:53 |
hbrennan |
I already have direct server access |
| 16:53 |
hbrennan |
I just have very limited staff client access |
| 16:53 |
hbrennan |
I'm all backwards |
| 16:54 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: give yourself the EVERYTHING permission and toggle the super_user flag on your account :) |
| 16:54 |
hbrennan |
woohoo |
| 16:54 |
phasefx |
though EVERYTHING isn't quite EVERYTHING like it used to be |
| 16:54 |
hbrennan |
Honestly I don't want everything, then I'm to blame :) |
| 16:55 |
hbrennan |
But it is a little silly that I can break the db, but I can't turn on patron self-registration |
| 16:56 |
hbrennan |
I'll brb.. going to catch someone to get me these permission so I can give you feedback as to whether it works |
| 16:57 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: remember to log out and back into the staff client after your permissions have changed |
| 17:00 |
mmorgan |
phasefx: earlier you said once you have UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING_ALL.. , you have to create specific perms for individual settings. How is that done? |
| 17:00 |
tsbere |
mmorgan: the _ALL one skips the individual permission bit |
| 17:01 |
mmorgan |
I assume you add a permission, but how do you know what to call it? |
| 17:01 |
tsbere |
mmorgan: Otherwise, make a permission, open up the org unit setting types editor, and assign it as the "update perm" for the setting |
| 17:01 |
tsbere |
mmorgan: The name isn't important (it used to be, it isn't now). Traditional naming is UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING.name where name is the org unit setting type name |
| 17:01 |
phasefx |
mmorgan: you can call it anything that makes sense to you, but it'd be good to use a scheme that wouldn't collide with stock permissions |
| 17:01 |
phasefx |
something like NOBLE.specific_setting_perm |
| 17:01 |
mmorgan |
Ah ok, I see. |
| 17:02 |
tsbere |
mmorgan: MVLC has at least one permission that is assigned to multiple setting types. 21 of them, in fact. And I believe I started it as MVLC_whatever. Most of our other custom perms follow the UPDATE_ORG_UNIT_SETTING.name convention. |
| 17:02 |
mmorgan |
I was missing the part in the org unit setting types editor. |
| 17:03 |
hbrennan |
Ahh, so that's where CREATE_PERM would come in handy tsbere |
| 17:03 |
mmorgan |
Thanks. I may have known that at one time, but not anytime recently ;-) |
| 17:03 |
mmorgan |
tsbere++ phasefx++ |
| 17:04 |
hbrennan |
Okay, I can see permissions..... |
| 17:04 |
hbrennan |
and I can edit Library Settings! |
| 17:04 |
hbrennan |
Yay! phasefx++ tsbere++ |
| 17:05 |
hbrennan |
And for the record, I only needed one of the ____PERM permissions to access Admin > Server > Permissions |
| 17:06 |
hbrennan |
so Allow Patron Self-Registration is true..... |
| 17:06 |
hbrennan |
but where is the link? |
| 17:06 |
hbrennan |
haha |
| 17:06 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: in the OPAC footer, with a stock skin |
| 17:07 |
hbrennan |
It must be commented out perhaps? It's not showing in the OPAC |
| 17:07 |
hbrennan |
Opening the db.... |
| 17:08 |
hbrennan |
It's not listed, which isn't a problem because I can add it |
| 17:08 |
hbrennan |
problem is, what's the URL? |
| 17:08 |
hbrennan |
There are some steps missing from the instructions |
| 17:08 |
kmlussier |
hbrennan: Did you refresh? |
| 17:08 |
Bmagic |
I am sure this is common but im not sure how to handle this. When reingesting the bibs I am getting dupliate tcn_value errors. When I query the database for tcn_value!=split_part(split_part(marc,'<controlfield tag="001">',2),'<',1) I get 3/4 million rows..... So this is probably something someone has encountered before |
| 17:08 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: your customer footer.tt2 is lacking what's in the stock footer.tt2 |
| 17:09 |
phasefx |
s/customer/custom/ |
| 17:09 |
hbrennan |
ahhh okay |
| 17:09 |
kmlussier |
@praise phasefx |
| 17:09 |
* pinesol_green |
the upgrade came off brilliantly, and it's all because of phasefx |
| 17:09 |
kmlussier |
It's true. I've seen many upgrades come off brilliantly because of phasefx. |
| 17:11 |
hbrennan |
I broke the OPAC |
| 17:11 |
hbrennan |
haha |
| 17:11 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: if you fire off a support ticket real quick I can fix it for you :) |
| 17:11 |
hbrennan |
Well, I deleted the chunk |
| 17:11 |
hbrennan |
I always say, I break things often but I know how to back up a step! |
| 17:11 |
phasefx |
hbrennan++ |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
Because that chunk is a little different I'm not sure how to enter it |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
[% IF ctx.get_org_setting( ctx.physical_loc || ctx.aou_tree.id, 'opac.allow_pending_user') %] <a href="[% mkurl(ctx.opac_root _ '/register') %]">[% l('Request Library Card') %]</a> | [% ELSE %] |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
this whole piece |
| 17:12 |
phasefx |
there's a bit more following the ELSE |
| 17:12 |
phasefx |
an alternative link. ultimately, I would remove the ELSE and the link following it, but keep the END |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
I see an example |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
oh ok |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
the end |
| 17:12 |
hbrennan |
let's try that |
| 17:13 |
hbrennan |
always good to make changes to the OPAC database at 1:15p |
| 17:13 |
phasefx |
so basically you have code there that looks like [% IF %] [% ELSE %] [% END %] |
| 17:13 |
mmorgan |
Better than at 5:00 on a Friday :) |
| 17:13 |
hbrennan |
haha yep mmorgan++ |
| 17:13 |
hbrennan |
okay, took out the ELSE |
| 17:14 |
hbrennan |
have the END |
| 17:14 |
hbrennan |
didn't break the OPAC |
| 17:14 |
hbrennan |
but no link |
| 17:14 |
phasefx |
the other thing going on there is that it's looking for the permission at a certain context |
| 17:15 |
phasefx |
if the physical_loc URL param exists, or if it exists as a cookie, it'll use that org and look for the corresponding setting. otherwise, it'll look at the top of the Consortium for the setting |
| 17:15 |
phasefx |
so your setting, what org did you add it to? |
| 17:15 |
hbrennan |
Allow self-registration? Branch |
| 17:15 |
phasefx |
s/permission/setting/ |
| 17:15 |
hbrennan |
so I need that code in the ||? |
| 17:16 |
hbrennan |
Oops, that's a no |
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| 17:16 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: I would move the setting to the consortium, if you want it to always be on |
| 17:17 |
phasefx |
alternately, you could just add the link and skip the whole IF/END part |
| 17:17 |
phasefx |
though I don't know if the interface itself looks at the setting |
| 17:17 |
hbrennan |
We only have the one branch, so I'm not sure it matters? |
| 17:19 |
phasefx |
hbrennan: right, so use Consortium instead of Branch in this case. It takes extra effort to make the OPAC think it's in a Branch context over the Consortium |
| 17:19 |
phasefx |
did they give you your UPDATE_ALL permission at the Consortium level? :) |
| 17:19 |
hbrennan |
So where do I put that 3-letter code in this: [% IF ctx.get_org_setting( ctx.physical_loc || ctx.aou_tree.id, 'opac.allow_pending_user') %] |
| 17:20 |
phasefx |
no need to modify that at all with a 3-letter code |
| 17:20 |
hbrennan |
okay |
| 17:20 |
phasefx |
just change the Context library for the setting to the top of the org tree |
| 17:20 |
hbrennan |
I'm only at branch for UPDATE |
| 17:21 |
hbrennan |
so for the setting on our branch level shows |
| 17:21 |
hbrennan |
okay, brb |
| 17:23 |
Bmagic |
Anyone have that tcn_value difficulty when reingesting biblio.record_entry ? |
| 17:25 |
hbrennan |
Okay, I have permission to set Library Settings at consortium level |
| 17:25 |
hbrennan |
but when I edit the change from branch to consortium and save this weird message shows in blue at the top of the page |
| 17:25 |
hbrennan |
he setting you edited is not the currently chosen org unit, therefore the changes you made are not visible. |
| 17:26 |
kmlussier |
hbrennan: That's normal. |
| 17:26 |
hbrennan |
okay |
| 17:26 |
hbrennan |
thanks |
| 17:26 |
hbrennan |
what a weird way to display a message |
| 17:26 |
hbrennan |
it wasn't a popup and it faded away on its own |
| 17:27 |
hbrennan |
ohhh now I see the Context Location |
| 17:28 |
hbrennan |
Ah-ha! Link appears! |
| 17:28 |
hbrennan |
Yikes, just like that |
| 17:28 |
hbrennan |
ah, it's live.. better turn it back off |
| 17:29 |
kmlussier |
ha ha...after all that hard work. :) |
| 17:29 |
phasefx |
:D |
| 17:29 |
hbrennan |
phew |
| 17:30 |
phasefx |
30 self registrations later... |
| 17:30 |
hbrennan |
thank you so much phasefx! |
| 17:30 |
hbrennan |
phasefx++ |
| 17:30 |
phasefx |
you're welcome |
| 17:30 |
hbrennan |
I'll give you extra praise in my feedback from the serials predictions |
| 17:30 |
hbrennan |
Phasefx is my hero this week! |
| 17:32 |
hbrennan |
We are still having people fill out little index cards with all their info and typing it in, and then storing them in a card catalog |
| 17:32 |
hbrennan |
after I get this self-registration up and running, no more! |
| 17:32 |
phasefx |
huzzah |
| 17:32 |
hbrennan |
Thank you, thank you! My dog is in the car so I better get to lunch |
| 17:38 |
Bmagic |
Is the preferred state of biblio.record_entry to have the 001 tag be equal to the DB id and tcn_value the same? |
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| 20:50 |
PJ_ |
hi, I just installed opensrf. When i try to switch to user opensrf I receive this error 'bash: PREFIX: No such file or directory' I would be grateful if someone can help me please. |
| 20:58 |
PJ_ |
I should have mentionned that I am using ubuntu 12.04 Precise and opensrf 2.30 |
| 20:59 |
jeff |
PJ_: sounds like you may have echoed something literally into the .bashrc file for the opensrf user, instead of replacing PREFIX with something like /openils |
| 20:59 |
jeff |
PJ_: if you're familiar with a text editor, I'd change to the opensrf user and edit the ~/.bashrc file -- look at the end of the file |
| 21:01 |
jeff |
you probably have something like this, which is incorrect: export PATH=\$PATH:/<PREFIX>/bin |
| 21:01 |
jeff |
that line should look like: export PATH=$PATH:/openils/bin |
| 21:02 |
jeff |
in the OpenSRF README file, this would be covered by the part ``substituting <PREFIX> with the value you passed to `--prefix`'' |
| 21:03 |
PJ_ |
I will try |
| 21:04 |
PJ_ |
can you tell me where is bashrc located? |
| 21:07 |
PJ_ |
never mind I was able to edit it using gedit ~/.bashrc from root |
| 21:10 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> I edited the file, but there is nothing of the sort of what you mentionned. |
| 21:14 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> when I try sudo su - opensrf I receive a similar error '-su: PREFIX: No such file or directory' |
| 21:25 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> I just deleted and recreated the user opensrf. If you can help me type PREFIX in the the echo command properly, I think this might fix it |
| 21:26 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> in the configure line I entered exactly what was written './configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf |
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| 21:30 |
jcamins |
PJ_: I'm just guessing, but you might be looking at the wrong .bashrc. You shouldn't really be using root for anything. |
| 21:31 |
jcamins |
In fact, I'm pretty sure the instructions said to use the opensrf user when I used them (which was, granted, months ago). |
| 21:31 |
jcamins |
... and in fact you said you were using the opensrf user. |
| 21:32 |
jcamins |
So take a look at that user's .bashrc file, and see if you can spot the literal PREFIX. |
| 21:32 |
jcamins |
(aside: Friday night is not a good time for support, as demonstrated by the fact that you're getting advice from someone who doesn't use EG and is only around because he doesn't feel like cooking plantains) |
| 21:34 |
jeff |
PJ_: the .bashrc file in question would be the opensrf user's .bashrc, which would be ~/.bashrc when you are the opensrf user, or ~opensrf/.bashrc when you are not. |
| 21:35 |
jeff |
PJ_: the README says ``substituting <PREFIX> with the value you passed to `--prefix` in your configure command', which means you would use the command: echo "export PATH=\$PATH:/openils/bin" >> /home/opensrf/.bashrc |
| 21:35 |
* jeff |
steals jcamins' plantains |
| 21:35 |
jcamins |
jeff: as long as you leave enough for our dinner tomorrow... and cook them for me. |
| 21:37 |
PJ_ |
you're right, that's what I found at the end export PATH=$PATH:/<PREFIX>/bin export PATH=$PATH:/openils/bin export PATH=$PATH:/openils/bin export PATH=$PATH:/openils/conf |
| 21:40 |
PJ_ |
<jcamins> I wonder why is the same line repeated 3 times? should I leave them like this? |
| 21:43 |
PJ_ |
<jcamins> <jeff> could you pls confirm what value should I substitute for prefix in bashrc, knowing that my configure line looked like this ''./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf' |
| 21:43 |
jeff |
PJ_: it would be ideal to have only one instance of the correct line, and no others. |
| 21:44 |
jeff |
export PATH=$PATH:/openils/bin |
| 21:44 |
jeff |
PREFIX and /openils/conf are incorrect. |
| 21:46 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> <jcamins> Excellent! Now I can change the user without any error messages, thanks to your great support |
| 21:48 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> <jcamins> I have one more issue with opensrf installation at the very last step, where you do srfsh I get this error Unable to bootstrap client for requests |
| 21:50 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> <jcamins> ejabberd is running as you can see '/etc/init.d/ejabberd start Starting jabber server: ejabberd already running.' |
| 21:54 |
PJ_ |
<jeff> <jcamins> in step 12 of the installation when I try 'osrf_ctl.sh -l -a start_all' I receive ' /openils/bin/osrf_ctl.sh is deprecated. Use osrf_control instead' |
| 21:57 |
PJ_ |
' osrf_control -l --start-all' seems to work though. |
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| 22:14 |
PJ_ |
I guess it's time to go now, thanks for your excellent support. |
| 22:15 |
jeff |
PJ_: you're welcome! happy adventures! |
| 22:15 |
* jeff |
gets done clearing a sorter jam and heads back home |
